Love Island S8 Ep 11- 15 Recap w/ Sunny Gray

Brigette and Toni dive into the dynamics of the villa during week 3.

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Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Your Point of View. I am your host, Bridget, and we are doing another Love Island recap with Sunny Gray. She is in the building. Hi, Sunny Gray. This is our freaking third go-around for the what I think is the worst season of Love Island. What are your thoughts? I'm gonna start with you. What are your thoughts of this week? Um, you know what? If I could explain the uh the season in just one word instead of just like what's going on this week, it would be a dump fire, like a dumpster fire. That's the best way I can just explain it. And I think your viewers would understand what I mean by that. And you and I had this conversation in the car once about I was like, why is season six was like the top whatever for Love Island USA and you gave me a rundown? I was like, this girl is eating me up because I heard you're right after this after after this week. I fear, Bridget, you were in your bag. Yeah, season six had everything for those who didn't watch. It had the friendships, it had the right amount of drama that didn't feel overly produced, and it also had um, you know, people exploring in the way that you're supposed to do, which brings organic, I feel like, drama versus this season where everybody is like coupled off and we're going into I think this is our third week or going into the third week that we're reviewing. Yes. And everyone is still with the same their first picks, except if we have split that pick up, then they they have no choice but to be with somebody new. So it's been very exhausting to watch the same thing happen over and over again. I feel like during this review, if you're not watching or you're just listening, you're gonna be like, didn't this happen last week? And it probably did, but we'll try to make it as interesting as humanly possible. I mean, interesting stuff did happen this week, but I feel like if they didn't do the America verte vote, then we would have gotten nothing, honestly. I feel like it would have been the same. And shout out to Soul because she gave us the most drama this week. Yes. She has been having Twitter in a uproar, and I was like, you know what? Love that for her. Somebody gotta do it. I said somebody has to bring the drama because with Melanie, it would I thought she was gonna be the one, and then things quickly simmered with her. I also thought it was gonna be Kada, but she's like happy go lucky in her couple, and then all of the OG girls seem to have like this like packed, so they're not stepping on each other's toes, trying to get to know anybody. But to be fair, a lot of the men really aren't that interesting either. So I guess I think the real problem is the lack of bombshells. Do you think so too? Because we've only gotten what four? Yeah, you know what? I want to say something that's not crazy. I want him to bring Soul back. You know, I they were talking about wanting to come back, but no, I really want Soul to come back. Uh for two reasons, right? I need soul to clear up two things for me. One, is that light-skinned girl on uh TikTok with a long dark hair really your best friend? Because she has been to the ground. Two, the way she ate Sincera ass up on the last episode first uh 15 before she went. And I figured they need to bring her back because I was like, Soul, you should have been on their asses since what episode did she come in on last week? She came in last week, right? Yeah, I think it was like episode nine or ten. Yeah, around that time. Yeah, so they need to bring Seoul back. And matter of fact, when they bring her back, put her in casa. I would love to see. I'm not always a big fan of that. They did this as well for the UK season 10 when they brought back uh Molly. That number could be off, it could be 11. When they brought back Molly to casa and Zach wasn't able to explore. Oh, that pissed me off. Don't bring them back during casa. I hate to, I hate to bring a bring someone back. But if this was the time to bring someone back, it will be so. The lack of bombshells are concerning because we would have one more before we go into casa, but it wouldn't be a fair chance. So it would make enough sense. You would have to basically just let them go right into casa and hope for the best of that situation. And I want you y'all to know that Tony is an advocate of bringing nobody back. She always is saying, when it's their time to go, get them off the screen. And that's how you know this season needs drama. Like soul was the only one really telling it like it is, and people have mixed feelings about her because of that. But hey, I'm team soul for the most part. She did say something that I will address later on in this episode that I'm kind of like, eh, I don't think you really need to say that. But we'll get to that at the very end. But yeah, we're gonna go ahead and get into the recap and we're gonna start with episode 11. So we're picking up where we left off with uh Bia going home, and uh Gabrielle is very emotional, he is very sad, and I think he needs 10, like Melanie needed. Yeah, that's a good, that's a good catchphrase. My other catchphrase is so then say that then. Yeah. Then say that. So yeah. No, Lilith. Be honest, be open. But no, Gabrielle, he shocked everybody because his edit, I think I meant to say this the last episode. His edit has been very um straightforward. It's like, oh, this is a uh spicy Brazilian man who only cares about kissing, and they have two islanders, no, three islanders now that have got off the island and said that he's way more than that. Like he's smart, he's funny, and all we're seeing is this man that just wants to tongue down everybody. So I think everybody was shocked that he cried. Um, and he has really expressed even after spoiler alert, spoiler alert, he leaves the villa. Um, even after he left the villa, he expressed how much he loves uh his time with Bia. So it was nice to see. And Jen, he made it kind of clear that he needs a minute to like process that, and it really only took that minute for him to process it completely. Yeah, I don't know what they were expecting out of this season from him. He did, I honestly, the way he moved about that Bia situation was very t uh, and I really appreciate that. But I do appreciate him even more to talk to Jen and be like, hey, like my couple got basically ripped apart and and it wasn't my choice. So you're just gonna have to give me, give me a, you know, give me a day. Give me a day. Give me a little minute, and I'll and I'll and I'll be back to the passionate man that we all know and love. So I do respect him for that. And it also shows like he's able to grieve over someone else and then give his new couple a chance and be fair because I don't want to watch him crying 40 days and 40 nights over a guy who left. You should have left with her at that point, but that would be unfair because you're not giving yourself a fair chance, one in your couple, two, your experience. Yes, exactly. So shout out to Gabe for that. And him and Jen, they end up getting closer and closer. Is there isn't much to their edit, but at the end of the next couple episodes, we see a little bit more. But we can definitely move on from them because ain't really much to say, no shade. Yeah. Um, throughout this episode, our next uh candidate um, well, our next scene is where we're watching Kenzie say that dating younger guys is a yellow flag, but Kenzie, you know, she's an interesting person. You say that, but Corbin and Caleb are the same age. I think Corbin is a year older than Caleb. I'm like, how are you saying this about Caleb? But you're dating Corbin in the show and they're the same age. So we we gotta keep an eye for her. And also, um, I have started this new thing where I'm doing a Kenzie count of how many times she goes to split per episode. So I'm gonna have to go back to episode one and watch how many splits throughout the season before she gets voted off that she's just breaking out in this random split. So keep an eye for that, guys. Kenzie Cam is definitely limited because um people are liking her less and less. And I do fear if there's another vote, I don't know if she's gonna survive that unless they let the islanders vote again. Um, but yeah, Kenzie, I have to say she might be like the public enemy number one. There's literally people with signs at parties saying get Kenzie out my villa. Like she is not well liked at all. And girl, does she didn't catch on to that whatsoever? I think she's thinking she's doing Love Island the way that she's supposed to be doing. She isn't. She is, but she's going about it in a weird way. So it's like you're not being honest with the people. Like in this episode, since she was ripped from her uh couple with Corbin, she is kind of splitting her time in between Corbin and in between um Caleb. Too much C's. I'm sorry. You're splitting her time. She is definitely that was no pun intended neither. Definitely is splitting, all right? No, that girl, that's one thing she's gonna do, she's gonna split uh either metaphorically or physically. I love violence, them legs and them time, so no, literally, but Kenzie people have noticed something about Kenzie where she will tell Corbin, at least this is the edit we're given. She's telling Corbin things that are more so sexual, like how they want to be in the bedroom and just basically be physical with each other versus her edit with Caleb, where she is talking about life on a ranch or whatever. And somebody made this um made this point on. I think it was TikTok. It was like, did you want a cowboy or did you want a farmer? Because those are two very different things. Because you're talking about life on a farm. Two very different white men um job. So yes, and they said nothing about Caleb is really giving cowboy to begin with. And I was like, Well, you know what, that's true. Cause isn't he from like South Carolina? Is that what you said? One of the Carolinas, it also this is gonna jump a little bit to episode 15, where she was apologizing to Caleb. This is a real jump, guys. She's apologizing to Caleb, and this is the farmer thing that you're talking about, Bridget, where she was like, Yeah, like I'm sorry, and you're the guy that matches my blah blah blah blah, my speech and everything. Cause over time, Kenzie has developed a new skill set, and that is a black scent. And Corbin, not Corbin, I'm sorry, too many C's. Caleb said to her, um, she's like, something about cowboy. And he's like, Yeah, because I'm your only cowboy. And I fear Caleb has ate her ass with that. So and so I hope he enjoyed Casa the most because he um he has jumped on my client list um temporarily. Can't can't get, you know, can't put my trust in a man, you know. Yeah, no, Caleb said, no, uh, Kenzie said to him, You're the cutest cowboy to walk in here. And he said, Um, that's because I'm the only cowboy to walk in here. He said, girl, because you could have been like, you're the cutest, whatever, like you're the most adorable person, personality. And she was just like, Can't say nothing else to that, because you that's true. You're literally the only fucking Yeah, so that that's that's that's not a serious person. That's a bit of a Kenzie jump. So that goes on to episode 15. We're still on 11, but I just wanted to make that analogy to back up Bridget's point that she just essentially knows what she wants, and you can see her um fellow castmates are getting annoyed with her because I said this last week. Why we keep giving Kenzie men like this is a make a wish foundation? This is not a make a wish foundation. She is not entitled to a man because she is single, and y'all done gave her two men off rip of the fact that she's single and she is riding that train to fetishization and developing a black scent, not wanting a cowboy when Caleb is a goddamn farmer. So she I truly think it's because one, they weren't into Caleb, and two, everybody's playing it safe. So it's like at first I get it, like, okay, you were letting her talk to Corbin um first because she was, you know, in a really crap situation or whatever, or you wanted her to Melanie took that, so she didn't really get talked in first, but you know what I mean. But at the second time, it was very clear that producers brought Caleb in because they wanted us to vote a certain way, and they probably honestly thought that Kenzie was would go for him based off of what she said a billion times. So for her to gravitate back to Corbin, which is an issue that her and Caleb end up having, because he's like, How long do I have to watch you explore this? Which honestly, it's only been a couple days. So I will say she's not wrong in exploring. You also have to do it, I think, in a respectful way to your partnership because you are sharing a bed with this person. It's it's a hard thing to be on love island. I will say it is there's no really right or wrong way to do it. I think the Islanders of the past have established a certain level of like decency that when we see new islanders, we want them to abide by that as well. But I think in the sense of Caleb Corbin and Kenzie, because she was split from her couple, I can understand why she still was talking to Corbin. And that is the only little bit of leeway I'm gonna give her because I think she went about this in the wrong way. I I still blame, I still blame Caleb, and I'm gonna continue saying I blame Caleb. You have to realize when you're a bombshell, the person that you're in a couple with, especially because you're still in them, and this is just over the years of watching Love Island across the universe, you have to be proactive because especially because you're single, right? And not only were you not chosen, the outside influence chose you to be with that, um, well, choose you to be with that person because they saw like a flicker of flame because production does it that way, so you can make a a cautious decision of who you want that bombshell to be coupled up with whether the bombshells pick or the outside influences pick. Overall, when you pick or the outside influences pick, you are doubling your time to talk to every other person to give yourself a fighting chance. You were in a couple with Kenzie, and I guarantee you did like her and she fits your aesthetic more, but also you are on a crunch time now to talk to every other girl to give yourself a little bit of a uh a wiggle room essentially and build a bond with another girl to steal her out of that couple because your couple is not giving you any type of like reassurance per se, and you're seeing her like going back to Corbin. And honestly, you're fighting with a six foot two light-skinned Jamaican man from Miami. You have to put in overtime, but no matter how many shit I talk about, Corbin, he is like sexy amongst all races of women. What when he opens his mouth, not as much, but I that's on Caleb um for not exploring the other girls, and even if they weren't giving you a chance, there might be a flicker of hope. Right. Yeah, I think you just have to, you know, kind of wed yourself in there, even if you're really starting as friends, because he does go on to say eventually that Kata caught his eye. I don't know how true that is, as it being like number one or whatever. Um, but yeah, you have to go for what you want and just have conversations with people. I mean, that's literally what they're there for, and they're there for 24 hours a day. You have nothing else to do. So for people to come in as bombshells and be afraid to pull and like mess up the dynamic, um, this is how I would see it. I'm like, we're already not friends, we're starting at not friends anyway. So this is the best time for me to, you know, try to get in there before we do form a bond and I start feeling bad or whatever. So with Caleb, I think he thought it was guaranteed because they are both white and both have like the same dreams or whatever. And little did he know, Kenzie was on some other shit. She said she wanted one thing and then completely went for it because we all know Corbin is not a farmer or a um cowboy. He couldn't be further from it. So yeah, Caleb was on some This is Trump America, and uh Kenzie was on some let's keep the immigrants, you know. Let's keep this world going. We trying to read Nickelandria uh nachos over here, apparently. We threw Ken. I reverse Nicolandria. No damn if Corbin's gonna be with a white woman. Uh at this point, he can just be with Jen at this point because she also give me nothing burger and they both can go home. Honestly, Jen, I told you Jen was serving a little bit. She be she'd be there for a long period of time, give us nothing, and then give us something every single time. I like Jen for you know for what she is, but she can't go home. No shade. It's it's okay if she went home. Um, so yeah, basically that is the debacle between the Kenzie Caleb and Corbin situation, and then we have a Melanie Soul and Sincere situation. So, as we know, I think the number one reason why we had this vote was to split up Melanie and Sincere. And a lot of the viewership thinks that they wanted like to get a Huda crash out from last season. And I don't know if there's necessarily that. I think the producers were starting to get bored with how everybody was doing like something repetitive. Now, I will say Melanie up until this point, I think was the star and was giving us the most, so they probably thought she was gonna have a bigger reaction. She was more so sad at the fact that they broke up than like being like a hurricane or whatever you want to call it, being like a tsunami. Um, so at this point, Soul and or Sincere is doing what he's supposed to do with Seul, which is like exploring her and and doing all that, but he's going about in a weird way because he already told, he already told Melanie that he wasn't gonna kiss Soul. And he had already done that like right away. So he this is where he really begins his lies. I feel this is where we really start to see get the downfall of Sincere. Like he tells one thing to one person and then goes ahead and does a whole completely different thing to another person. How did you feel about this episode in particular? Well, so yeah, this is the episode where um I I actually like Melanie as a person and she kind of gives you a glimpse of the dating world for for Gen Z and how it's navigating and most of how I relate to her as a girl in my young 20s. I was way worse than Melanie, to be quite. I wasn't crashing out, I was stabbing up people's tires. So shout out to her for not having no tires to slash. Not admitting to crimes. I didn't get caught, but now they they can't catch me. I'm in my 30s, they can't catch me. So if my ex listening to this, I'm not sorry. But also Melanie is doing the same thing that I felt like Caleb was doing. The only thing was Melanie had time on her side opposed to Caleb. Um, we watch her have this conversation with Corbin in Speake. This is Speake Easy, yeah. We watched her have this conversation in Speake Easy, and uh Corbin is trying to like essentially make a move and he held her hand so she kind of like jumped back a little bit. I'm like, well, girl, he's just trying to, you know, have a conversation. And then because she was sadness for this episode, I think each episode we have a girl be called sadness because it was soul the last time. Um, she slept in soul tides. The first time I was like, I get it. You don't want to, you know, I wouldn't want to be in the room with the man that I want, watching him, you know, kiss up some girl named Soul, and then I'm in Soul Tides, and you know, it's just a metaphor just going on in circles. The first time she did it, I felt for her. The second time she did it, I said, Girl, you don't too much. Are you out there getting bit up by all types of mosquitoes and lizards crawling all over you? And every spot is GG. Get inside. I think it needs to start telling them you cannot sleep outside because at some point something bite their ass, that's a liability. That is putting back they put that in a contract. If you sleep insultized, that's on you because that has to be. But um, when Sincere took that hand up, everybody says he be lying because uh you can't tell one girl one thing and go and tell a girl the next. And I'm just that to me just shows us who Sincere is in the real world. And we see a lot of these people personalities that they they might not do it with bad intentions because I feel like hear me out and tell me what you feel after I say the sentence. I feel like Sincere is a non-confrontational person. I think he honestly has gotten away with things like this without it like catching up to him because he's not being recorded 24-7. And now I think he lies so much that he believes his own lies, to be very honest. Because it's actually scary how he's not acknowledging that, hey, I just told Melanie, for example, I don't really care to explore with Soul. I'm I'm all about this. Then I tell Soul, like, hey, I'm happy to be here, I'm happy to be in this couple and explore things. And then when he gets tied or called out, he's like, I don't understand. I'm being super duper honest. Like, I think he's a scary individual, and like, no even jokes about it. Because it's crazy to watch him in real time be in confessionals and be like, yeah, I don't understand why they picked me for that. Because um, I've been honest, like, accountability, don't know him whatsoever at all. I think you're right, he's non-confrontational, and he's gonna get a lot of confrontation once they start rolling them tapes. And I can honestly, I can't wait to watch it. I want to see him held accountable. I agree. Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's one of those things, like in the moment he feels like that until he gets around another person, he feels completely different because I feel like he like he is lying to the people that he is relaying these messages to between both girls. But when he's with that said girl, he's saying what he feels at that moment just to. That other person happy because I feel as though, yeah, he felt he was excited to explore soul and be outside of his couple and explore that. But I also feel as though when he's with Melanie, he really likes her. He's like, No, I'm not looking to like get any further with that girl. And it's just like sincere, we watch you tell Soul that you're gonna tell Melanie what's up and cut it off. And while you sit with Melanie, you're just like, I miss you, I need you, I need that. So it's very like contradictory with what you're saying, and you're not being sincere. He's being insincere. That's what they're starting to call him as well. Because you're not honest with your own self about your emotions, so therefore you're not honest with the people around you. But it's just crazy to me because he's acting like this is not being recorded. So that's why I'm thinking in my head, this man genuinely believes his lies at this point. So it's gonna be so interesting to see because I'm almost 100% positive with how this cast moves. We're getting a movie night this year. Last year we got that weird mailbox thing that I hope they never bring back. I feel like that's it's just not necessary. Like, I'd rather see people's real reaction to recorded than like, oh, this anonymous that was like appealing, whatever. But last year it was weird because I think more people were like um up front about their feelings, so there wasn't that much, but there was still little um lingering things that people weren't addressing. I just don't feel as though it was big enough for them to like roll the tapes. But this year, there's so much lies and so many comments about other people's relationships that they should have a hell of a lot of footage. They they should, they really should and watch sincere go back and forth with his green wire, red wire, and every other metaphor, I think. Oh my god, he is he's beating Amaya with the metaphors this year, so shout out to him.

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Amaya Jr. over here.

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Also, like he spared no time when Melanie was in Soul Ties crying her eyes out. It was um yeah, he spared no time with with kissing with kissing soul, or didn't even say, hey, give me a second, let me just check on her to make sure she's good. Because when we saw Dammy in India from the UK season, I think prior to, I think that's UK season nine, where it was Dammy and I forgot the other guy that was sleeping outside. She went outside to go see him, and it was like it was one of those moments like iconic. And I feel as though if he had told Soul, like, well, we're not in a kissing bed tonight, just out of respect, like I just we just coupled up, not even by margin, we just couple up, to give me like 10 minutes just to check on her and just make sure she's okay and I'm coming back to sleep with you. He could have gone outside, say to Melanie, I don't feel comfortable with you sleeping outside, and don't worry about me kissing Sol or anything, um, out of respect for our relationship, but also like, are you okay? And obviously, they that would have been like a really good moment for him. Right. But he's inconsiderate as fuck. And that's the second time doing that. She's dumb as fuck for sleeping outside. I'm not sleeping outside for no nigga. I really want to give up my bed half the time. So same. I'm like, pillow fours are underrated. Just put pillows in between you and a person if you're uncomfortable. Like, that's why I'm not understanding. But he did the same thing with Paul with Saul in the challenge of the like uh the pine challenge. After she was like broken down and everything, Casey was the one to be like, hey, let's, you know, I'm just here for you if you need this somebody to talk to you and all this other stuff. Meanwhile, he waits until hours later after they like shower and do everything to pull her aside to talk to her. That's something you should do way quicker than that when somebody's breaking down like that. And even Melanie at that time had said she wanted to speak to her, and he was like, Oh, I don't think we should let her. I think she should like feel her feelings or whatever. You just don't want them to talk, even though they did talk, we just didn't see it as much. Soul is Shelly's level of confused, and Shelly from season uh seven, confused. Yeah, that's Anaya. She loves saying she's confused. Oh, Shelly, Shelly be like, I'm Shelly be like confused. That was her slogan for the long.

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She's like, I'm confused.

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I don't know what it literally was. Yeah, it literally was. So this is like brewing these these lies and stuff is brewing, starting in this episode for that trio. And then we have um Casey and and uh Anaya, right? Well, yeah, Casey and Anaya. So we have Casey's um speaking with Soul in the kitchen about wanting to pull Soul, but Sincere got to her first, which kind of back backfired on him later on in the the week. Actually, I think someone said it. It's either one of the girls said it to someone else, and it got back to Anaya that he, or I think it was Zach, it's probably Maltamassi Zach that said it because him between him and Anaya, they're messenger pigeons. Where someone's yeah, Casey had made the comment of wanting to speak with Soul, and I think it was around the time where she was about to spoil alert, Soul is off the island, but I think it was around the time when Sol got kicked off the island that it got brought back up again. So that was a little crazy. So yeah, we're on to Casey and Anaya at this point. Yeah, Casey ends up pulling Soul for a conversation, and then is it this is this episode, I believe, and Anaya interrupts it. Uh I fear, yeah, I think that's correct. I think that's within this because he pulls her more than once. Because there was a time that he pulled her with Bryce as well, and he was like, What do you want? Bryce was like, She just wants to be wanted, bro. So white as hell. Yeah, so that's a uh that's later on. But with this, I believe this is the first time he pulls her for a conversation. That's actually the the end of episode um 11, to be quite frank, because I have Casey pull soul, and I think that's around the time that was going towards the end of the episode of 11, and Anaya breaks up that conversation, and it and it really didn't get nowhere because this is around the time this is actually you're actually correct because he plays too damn much, and he was she's like, Why are you smiling?

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Why are you laughing?

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So, yeah, and to give context as to why she was a little thrown off in their challenge, where they do a lot of the same challenges this season, so I'm not even gonna do heavily descriptive, but they're playing with the soccer ball and then slamming each other, um, and picking somebody to fit whatever question it is, who's most likely to whatever. And Zach ends up picking KC, saying that he is playing it safe in his couple, and he's like um afraid to explore, basically, like kind of staying with the safe, safer choice, which is Anaya. And one thing about Anaya, she is going to listen to other people, and I feel like it's because she doesn't feel safe and secure in her couple, like she feels like there's something off, I think, with KC. So they have a conversation about that. Um, and he's trying to assure her like you're not my safe choice, you're my only choice, and she's just not really believing it. So for her to see him pulling soul, I think it like triggers something in her. But also, and I have said beforehand, like, I'm okay with you exploring. So I think a lot of people were mixed about it, but also to remind the audience, KC has said like he doesn't want to explore with soul, he's happy where he's at. So it's a bunch of people saying things that they don't mean because right when Soul is speaking to KC, is when she goes over to interrupt it, which I think she should have waited until they were done speaking to Paul KC, because now you're pulling him, he's happy with whatever conversation they were having, and you're asking him why am I smiling? And it at that point, I was like, Anaya, why are you trying to dampen his mood? Like if he's happy and smiling, he doesn't know there's something wrong with y'all at that moment. And either way, that conversation could have been just friendly as well. But as soon as she saw it, she was like, Oh, let me go, let me choose now to pull him for a chat, which I think she was um wrong with that, honestly. But what do you think? I think Anaya is trying to do a gotcha moment of you know a man doesn't like you, so you're trying to be like, I knew it, kind of uh kind of shit. Like, I knew you didn't like me. There is an insecurity thing, and we're watching it build up with Anaya. Uh, she could say it's not insecurity because I'm not Anaya, can't tell you what it is, but as viewers, and we're watching them as um, I don't want to say characters because they're real people, but this character of themselves and and the because production has like the type of characters that they want for a particular show or what or two they do their own storyboards, they do their own storylines, they need certain personalities um to further a s a um a narrative per se. And I'm it's sad to see that we are watching Anaya be the black girl that's insecure about her couple of whether or not the guy really likes her. And you cannot say, I'm okay with you exploring, and uh I it it doesn't matter, just let me know what's up. And not to toot Casey's horn because I'm watching him closely because there's something that he said with Corbin that I'm not gonna touch on it yet. I'm just gonna hold off a little bit. Um we we saw Corbin on multiple occasions, right? Uh, we'll start off with the the bed scene, the white bed scene from last week, where after the the the challenge, which I find grotesque, uh we watch Casey tells Anaya to her face, like, yes, I do find Sola attractive. Yes, like if I want to talk to her, given the chance that I would, like, I would talk to her. But do I feel like that right now? No, I don't. I don't really care to, but if so be it that she wants to, like, I will give her the chance because we are open, and then we watch Anaya bust out in tears, but no absolute reason. Now we are back now, current current week, where Anaya is letting outside influences from her castmate get in her head about about Casey and the things that he's saying, which uh he tells her in a softer tone. But of course, like when you're talking to your friends, you're gonna tell them like the reels. But he has told her to her face multiple times about the soul situation, but maybe not in a tone that he tells maybe Zach or Bryce, because you do have to talk to her with care because she you're in a couple with her, and you do have to be careful with how you're saying things, especially because you gave this big old speech about blueprint of black women in black love, and she's the black of the black and berry and sugar and juice. You you do have to be careful with the things that you're saying. And she let Zach get in her head, and then while Zach is explaining to her, which this season we're we're seeing, people have the issue with over-explaining. Just say what you gotta say. You don't gotta explain it too much. Y'all do and she let that get in her head, get up, and see Casey pull Sol and just see where her head is at because the conversation was very like level-headed, because all Soul was saying, like, I would want to explore, but everybody is coupling up and everybody's not giving me a chance, and I wanted to whatever. And Casey did tell Sol, like, once she calms down, he's willing to have a conversation with her. The conversation wasn't anything crazy, he just, you know, vibing, seeing where she's at, making sure she's okay. And he was was a very light conversation, it was very refreshing with sincere. Says she's you know, real with her feelings. Anaya comes over, why are you laughing? Very, very just what quick question, because he had that separate one in the kitchen, and then the one that he had where they were sitting down wasn't the one where they were kind of talking about like potentially exploring each other, but he said something like him and Anaya are good, right? So he that's why I said, Yeah, that's correct. The conversation was very light. He said, I would explore with you, but why mess up, you know, what I got going on, which I find really good to just explore, and then you know, that blows up in my I'm paraphrasing. But he basically gave her like I would explore you, but I got something good going on, so I'm not gonna be your guy for that. And then they then she expressed like she does want to explore other people, and then Anaya comes over being sadness and be like, Why are you laughing? or I'm your number one. And he ate her ass up with this episode as well because he said to her, and I've said this as well, you didn't choose me first, but I choose you. What does that say? And I'm so it's so funny to watch somebody else say what I would say to another person because he said, Oh, not for nothing, I'm not gonna hold it against you, but I've I chose you and I've been choosing you. You chose me because you had no other option but to choose me, and you just keep choosing me because you're not interested in nobody else, paraphrasing, but essentially that's what he said, and he isn't wrong. She's like, Well, I want to be your first. He was like, Well, you're my only one, you're my only option. And I told you multiple times, if I want to explore this girl, she's downstairs. I could have ended that. You're giving me the invite to do it, and then when when I do it, you're upset that I'm not being honest or fortright with the information, and he has been, so yeah, up until this point, because he does get it does get a little messy with him as well, yeah, for sure. But I agree, it's and she's like, How'd this get turned on me? But he has a point if you keep talking about I want to be your um first choice, first choice, and you weren't even his, he was like your third, if at all, on your list of people. So he did have a point in that. And I don't think he was trying to turn it back around on her, he was just trying to say, like, why am I the one who has to consistently give reassurance when you're not reassuring you didn't even stand behind my door? You know what I mean? So I completely get that, and then that is the messiness between that couple, and then also we have Kaida and Zach, which there isn't much to say about them except for Kata is like consistently trying to get some with Zach. Like she's trying to go further and further to I don't know what, maybe she's just you know, may I ask you a question? Do you think okay, so Kata and Zach had sex in a hideaway, and she's been pushing this like thing to have Zach. Do you would you consider that coercion of trying to manipulate him with sex so he doesn't move on with like a bombshell or do anything in Casa? Um, yeah, I was gonna kind of touch on that. I think when somebody says that they don't want to do something or they don't want to move too fast, and you keep saying stuff like, yes, we are, we're gonna go all the way, and stuff like that. I don't like that because if that was flip, which it is a lot to other time flip for men to do that, we would be like, oh no, he needs to respect your boundaries or whatever. Like that is to bring up KC a little bit, he makes a comment later on about Anaya kind of being a grandma in the bed and how she's not really doing anything, and that's gonna make him want to explore somebody else, like, which is a nasty comment, in my opinion. So I think it's just as bad, even if you know the roles are reversed and Zach, because for men, they always say like men are supposed to want it, etc. etc.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

And you know, Zach could say no, but he also is seeing if he says no, what her response is gonna be because she's like basically giving him like the death stares that he doesn't want to go all the way. So I think it's weird to pressure somebody that you haven't known for that long and be like, Oh, we are for sure. So at this point, they haven't got picked for the hideaway. This is like the night before, I think. And they're talking about it. And Zach is like dropping these weird hints, saying something about like, what if a bombshell comes in? Can I explore? and blah zebra. Like, so he's dropping weird hints instead of just being straightforward and saying, I still want to explore other people. But I guess in a way, this this is how he's like bringing it up. I still don't really like it, but whatever. So she is making it clear that I'm not closed off and I don't want to go too far in case somebody else comes in and we hit it off and blah blah blah, but Keda's like, no, I'm gonna go all the way. So I said at this point, if he does move on, Keda, you can't really blame him because he has brought up this conversation multiple times. But they get picked to go to the highway, and I'm just gonna float on to episode 13. So um they get picked to go to the highway at the end of 12, go into 13, and one of the first things he says after they do it is, what would you be mad at me if a bombshell comes in and I talk to them? And she's like, Yeah. So I think that's weird as hell for him to say that. And I'm like, if you really, really, really did not want to do anything with Kata, you should have said no. Like, you should have really just put your foot down and say, Absolutely not, we're not doing it. But I also understand, you know, when people feel some sort of coercion and whether or not Keda meant to do that, it's still just not an okay thing to try to pressure anybody into it. But what do you think? No, um, I completely agree with what you're saying, and we have to be really considerate. It's especially we um even when we review stuff, we gotta be super considerate of these people's feelings and how they're being perceived on TV and all that. And uh, as women over time, and this is just girl talk uh amongst girls or even younger, I don't know if this is like your friend group and but my old friend group when I was growing up, we used to be like, Oh, he didn't want me to have sex with him, oh, he's gay and whatever. I mean, we make jokes here and there that Zach is in a lavender marriage with Kada because his his romance with Bryce, he has a better storyline with Bryce than he did with Kata. But as far as coercion go and stuff, I hope he doesn't feel as though that he had to do it because as a man, if you don't do it, you get that stereotype pushed on it. And it's necessarily he first of all, Zach is 26, Kata is 22, and you have to be super respectful because this is a young girl and she's gonna this could basically either take her down or lift her up, or we don't know how it's gonna go, but the implications of women having sex on TV and how that's looked down upon among um opposed to the guys having sex on the TV show, and just to jump into this conversation, we see how Zach and not Zach, sorry, we see how Casey and Corbin have these conversations about the girl, especially Anaya being a grandma for not wanting uh Casey to to inappropriately touch her. She's like, no, like I'm on TV, like I'm not doing that. We also see uh how Corbin talk about how he's a DJ for the night for for you know our our ballerina Kenzie, and it's kind of touch of nerves with us where we see men have these conversations uh amongst themselves. We know they have it, we all have it. I'm not gonna pretend like I never have it. Um but to see it come to light and the and it be said about young women and men is kind of like well, you don't want to have that conversation on TV. So may I say this to not to cut you off? No, it's the lack of decorum that they have. We were talking about how the last couple of seasons they would be like, oh um so-and-so had a dessert and then they went for seconds or whatever. And these people are just saying, Oh, we had sex or we did this, and it's very explicit, and I think it makes it more like, oh, why are y'all saying this?

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Yeah, it's a little much, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

So it really is like a lack of decorum. Like, I like I said, I'm not in astray of that. Like, we don't all talk like that. I'm not gonna be a prude. We all have these type of conversations about our partners or we talk about our girl. Let me say you say what's happening over TV and watching Zach try to navigate, like, no, I don't want to have sex with you because I want to explore and I don't want that to be uh now I look like an asshole on TV because I had sex with you and then go over and do something else with another girl. We see this happen with Harrison and Tony and Lauren from the UK season as well, where Harrison did have sex with Lauren and uh the women association of the UK was like not having it because he went back to Tony and he kept doing it and they kicked his ass off the show. So we really do have to be uh careful. That was season 12, actually, of the UK. We really do have to be careful with what we're doing on on TV, especially as young people, and the show's already extremely too much. Next topic, Bridget. Back to Yeah, so don't wrap it up, they in a weird place. Um, but it's like Zach is also to me like foaming at the mouth to leave his couple, and I it goes to the conversation of these people are very well aware of the fact that they want to be in a secure um relationship, so I think they can have better chances of making all the way to the end, and that is something that we are kind of observing with this cast that they are very aware of what America thinks or how they could be perceived, but somehow they are still super duper unlikable in every way possible. It's like they I think they're thinking too much, which is also an issue that season seven had. And season six didn't have this because the show wasn't that popular, so I think that's why we're having this issue now. Like, I think somebody said like 44 million people have been watching the show or some obscenely crazy number. So it's normal for people to like have that fear in the back of their head, but not everybody's gonna get a good edit, not everybody's gonna be likable, even if you are yourself, and you you can't guarantee your spot by staying in a couple because then we still have to vote on which couple we like the best, and you still can be in the bottom, so you really should. It's like they don't really fully understand what the show is supposed to be about, and numerous islanders have called this couple island or said that everybody's closed off and and weird. So to watch Zach, I don't even know what his endgame is because he's being secure with Kata, but also waiting for the next best thing while you know what I'm saying, it's very weird. I don't know what his strategy is. No, Zach for sure knows that Bridget, come on, Zach for sure knows that he's in a secure couple, and why I'm saying this is because we watch Zach multiple times tell other men to talk to Keda. And when Bryce spoke to him and said, I don't, and I also think that he doesn't think anybody's gonna do it. And also, if somebody did try their hands, he doesn't think Kata's gonna leave him. Because you watch Zach tell Bryce, like, oh, go ahead instead of just tell him, like, no, like I'm uncomfortable with you doing that because you're my best mate, you know, saying you're my best bud. You shouldn't do that. He should have told him no, but he has so much confidence in Kata saying no, that he was it's Potentially telling right, go ahead and get embarrassed if you want to. Watch him again tell Caleb to you know excluded girls, go talk to Kada. And Caleb took that to heart and be like, Yeah, I'm gonna talk to Kada since you're so you know willing to give your shorty up. Like, why not? So honestly, what I will say with the Zach and Bryce thing, I feel like he probably felt as though, like, who am I to stop somebody to who try to connect? It was weird when he said to Caleb. I think that was more weird because at that point your head already went all the way, and you're basically serving up your girl in that sense. But if somebody's coming to you to ask for permission to explore, I think it is like the best thing you can do is like go ahead because now I'm stopping you from doing what you want to do, and now it's like I'm trying to control her. So, in that sense, in the Bryce, Kada, and um Zach sense, I think that was the best thing he can do. But for him to bring up Kata to Bryce, I mean, excuse me, bring up Keda to Caleb, that was strange. Like he lost me to Eric. Okay, yeah. Okay, okay. I see, I see where you're where you're going with that. I I agree, I agree. Yeah, and now we have um our I well, you want to move on to Kenzie and Corbin, because I have a lot to say about this. You go ahead, because I think I yeah, you go ahead. Uh, you know what? This whole so we're back in the circle now because this whole Kenzie Corbin debacle is so funny because uh we watched Caleb with his uh 2015 sorry his 2015 vision tell uh tell everybody in the goddamn villa who has an ears that uh Kenzie and Corbin kiss, and they did not. So uh Caleb definitely had me questioning if Kenzie was right if the 2030 was better than 2015. Um, I know you have some thoughts on that, Bridget, but I did. We watched uh Corbin navigate his relationship with Kenzie and Melanie and decided to take a conversation with Melanie and tell her, like, bro, you you gotta sleep in a bed with me because now you're making me feel bad, which he has all right to say that because now you're making me feel like there's a meat issue. And as soon as she got in that bed, they started making out. And I was like, you know what, Melanie? You should have probably slept in that damn uh uh soul tie for a third night because you end up getting coupled up with your man, so that was a waste. And we watch Corbin, I don't talk with Kenzie about white noises, and she's trying to like correct him, and I realized Kenzie got a correction kink because she loved correcting men, me too. But when they're actually wrong and not right, Kenzie. So and it's Corbin saying, like, oh, America couldn't break this shit up. America's watch this shit. Watch this.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

Watch this shit, yep. So I put that as a threat. I said, don't let me download the app now, Corbin. No, literally.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

I'll get you and Miss Flutterina off my fucking channel. Uh so don't tell me what a good time, because y'all, y'all will be out of here. Um and the thing about the thing about Kenzie, at first her and Caleb was moving me, and then her and Corbin, I was like, you know what? This is moving me, but then I'm watching like, what is this accent that I'm picking up? It's given that TikTok where I'm finna be in a pit because she like I'm fucking mad as shit. I'm finna I'm finna do this. Uh uh, I don't know, America trying to vote me and me out, and she was like extra head twisted. I was like, who is this imitating? I said, that can't be black people. And then her and Jen started a white alliance, and I was like, wait, is this clan? What's going on? Y'all tell Jen that uh she's like, I want to tell Soul. I I think at that point she realized Soul is a fully black woman, and she just comes off virtually ambiguous because she was saying it's not that I don't trust Sol. After she told Sol last episode, like, if you need anything, join me and my my other white girl. Um she says with me and uh Corbin and I kissed just to tell Corbin, like, aren't you so proud of me and not telling anybody that I kissed? And he was like, Oh yeah, but if if it got out, fuck it. And then she's like, ha ha ha, like I told everybody, anyways. She's not to be trusted. No, she's strange. You told that man, and I want to point it out because I'm gonna defend my Jamaican baddie. You told him not not to tell anybody. He kept his mouth shut just for you to tell the your white alliance and tell her not to tell anybody.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

No white alliance.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

You got the confirmation from this man that it was okay that even if it got out, he didn't care. Because anyhow, he said, Yeah, like if it had got out, I'd been mad, blah blah blah. Right. Your mouth shut until you got the confirmation just to be like, ha ha ha. Um, I told everybody, you know. Then she was definitely weird for that, I gotta say. She definitely was. Very weird. And then you showing us that a nursing degree ain't shit. Go ahead, Bridget. No, you have a lot to say about that nursing degree. Um, look, the one I have to say is she didn't know my group chat because I was like, Oh yeah, Kenzie a nurse.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

Who go argue with a nurse, bitch?

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Argue with your nurses. No, argue with Kenzie because when okay, I used to work for an eye doctor, um, but we dealt with like eye diseases specifically. So I didn't know about the um 2020, like the number thing. I wasn't aware of that, but I did think to myself, what does nursing have to do with that? Because I do know that they do different parts of the body and that the eye is separate. It's just like saying, Oh, I'm a doctor and you're talking about teeth. They'll send you to a dentist specifically. So when Kenzie said, No, no, it's the opposite way, and Caleb is saying, the actual eye doctor told me I have flight uh vision of a pilot. I said, he might be onto something. So in our little group chat, it's it's you and another friend, the frying Caleb. And I was like, let me Google this before I say it. You know what? This is my ass picking up for a white woman, and it shows my ass because I was like, I wear glasses. I said, Yeah, Caleb shit is ass. Whole top window. I have the same vision as Kenzie, but worse. But I just couldn't remember because you know me, I don't wear my glasses like that all the time. And the numbers, yeah, it's confusing. Yeah, and the numbers are so fucking confusing because I was like, I'm over here tearing Caleb a new one. Like, he don't know shit. Like, how you gonna tell a nurse? And then you brought up the specs. I said, damn, my bad, Caleb, because how dare you, Kenzie, have me defend a man. No, literally, you didn't have very good options. It was cut into your game. But the way she is a green flag to me because the way he handled that was good. Yeah, him and Corbin, because the way Corbin was like, no, uh, what do you think ocean uh ocean sound is? It's white noise. Did we say what her other argument was with white noise? I forgot what she said it was, but Corbin was correct. I was like, Kenzie, that is white noise. And this they were having a conversation about white noise, y'all. So Corbin said, yeah, like ocean sounds. And she was like, no, white noise is like static. And he was like, but that noise is the same as ocean, and he just left it there like that. And she was like, Oh no, it's definitely not white noise. You know why she's so confident that is that because Kenzie is the white noise, and it's not one of the pleasant ones. She is the white noise because Caleb is definitely. I love him. Caleb, I know it's gonna bite me my ass in the next week or so, but for this episode at 2 40 p.m., would say this June 21st. Um, Caleb, you because I we have told her ass, no, I got a vision of a pilot. And then she told her he had a vision of a pilot. She's like, Oh, I'm a nurse. You're not an ophthalmologist, and you're not an optometrist either. Exactly. So I'm like, that's why I'm like, okay, when people say I'm so and so, okay, they split things off into specialties because no, not one person knows absolutely everything about the human body. It's too much. You would not be able to be an expert in everything. So I mean, I don't think she would have got fried as bad if she didn't handle it. She was like, okay, I thought it was this way or whatever, or been open to it. But she was like, no, no, it's this way because of it, like loud and wrong. Girl, Kenzie had her flowers the previous episode where she was doing breeding exercise, and she said, like, oh, this is giving me Asuka Oscar Gwashabhagwa. I forgot what the word was. And everybody was like, Yes, Kenzie using that nursing degree. Now we finna stick that shit from you because you have me embarrassed in my group chat, defending your ass. I'm like, how dare that bad you how dare he argue with a nurse? And then I was like, Wait, bitch, you're a nurse. Yeah, it's hard. Nobody knows absolutely everything about every part of the human body. And I think that's an okay thing for people to admit. Like, dentists don't know stuff about your other parts besides your tooth. And then even with dentists, you have specialists, like there's ones that'll do root canal, there's one that'll do braces. Exactly my point. Nobody knows everything. You got endodontists periodontas, whatever other dontists we got exactly goes on. So to watch this damn nurse that probably specialized in the body tell this poor young boy that, and then also what made her um for me personally, for made this sentence like had so much conviction behind her was the fact that Caleb has a 2015 vision that couldn't see on the dot that Corbin and Kenzie didn't kiss. That's almost like he can't understand. They like put their heads together. I don't give two dams. They put their head together in like a weird way that did look like it. Two damns, you got 2015. Better than that damn girl. You can't see that kiss wasn't room. Now you told a damn villa that that's why I was like, Yeah, he can't see shit. He didn't have Miss Quinton.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

I don't give two shits, Bridget.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

You should have been squinting to see that, but no, and then that leads to Melanie a second time sleeping in soul ties because instead of asking Caleb, did y'all, I mean, excuse me, instead of asking Corbin, did you kiss Kenzie? He ran with it. Like, that's the thing with this villa, they don't be very direct with each other sometimes. Nothing, nothing, no communication. She brought it up the next day, and I feel as though Melanie didn't want to have that conversation because she didn't want her night ruined. So she said, I'm gonna just that's like me. I'm like, I'm gonna handle that shit tomorrow. Let me sleep on it. She probably didn't sleep on it because if he had said yes, she'd have felt so upset. But girl, you do not want to be with that man, so it shouldn't have matter if he kissed Kenzie or not. I think she said she the reason behind it was that she just kind of felt weird to be in a bed with him. It was she got it from two sides because she's close with Kenzie and she's like, okay, he you feeling him. And then I have to watch Soul and Sincere in bed together. She wasn't mentally prepared to do that either. So it was a lot of things in the factory in it. So I understood the first time, but it's hot outside and humid, and I'm going to be in the bed, and I'll just make up for it. Um, so that was just the shit fire between that love quangle, that that hexagon that was going on. Um, you know what? I do respect Caleb a lot in this ep uh last episode as well because he told Kenzie, like, yeah, I don't, I don't, I'm not interested in being your friend. It's gonna be a hard, hard nerr for me. So we skip we going ahead. Yeah, you know, so I appreciate that, Caleb. But no, before we skip all the way over to that, let's talk about because they weren't these couples were split up for a very short period of time. So at this point, just to really give a quick overview, Sincere is in his linebag because he is very much talking to Soul and telling at this point, he is just talking to Soul, like he and Melanie have not had a conversation. She he's trying to focus on his um connection with her, and they're like growing uh stronger and stronger, and he's telling her, like, this is what I want, etc. And then him and Melanie, Melanie, I think, is slowly trying to um get there with with Corbin and got her blessed, got the blessing from Kenzie to move forward with that or whatever. So she's like, Okay, they kiss and cuddle in bed and all this other stuff. Then here comes Sincere telling Soul that he wants to have one final conversation with Melanie to like close things off and just move on. He says he feels like he owes her that, like, what two days later? Okay. Um, so he finally has a conversation with her just to say he wants to be with her again at this point. So he's really back to his back to lion because you just told Soul you don't wanna you don't wanna be with her or anything like that. You just want to close it off. So we pretty much um see that he's back to his lion, and then they have a recoupling in the next episode, I believe. You're absolutely right, because they did the the the letter thing again that you despise. Um, I love the doors, you hate the letters, I hate the letters. And you know what? To be fair, I was a hater because I was like, why are we doing this dumbass mailbox bullshit again? I hate this. Why are we reading all we haven't talked about um Trinity and Bryce and anything because their head is talking about other people? Let me pop off about this letter thing because I want to apologize about it because I was like, this shit is dumb as hell, and then I realized it was a memorial for the producer that passed away. So I just wanted to say, um, hold your loved ones close, make sure you're telling them you love them, and to the producer that passed away, I want to say I feel so sorry to your families and friends, and I hope they're all healing. Um, I still use couple letters, but I think that was a very unfortunate event. And the way Love Island handled that, I feel as though Soul and Caleb should have been immune from that. But on to uh Brittany. That's their that's let me just say the man's name. So the producer that died is James Barker, and we're not sure exactly how he passed away, but he passed away in Fiji. So there's a lot going on in production, they've gotten a lot of heat on how this season has gone. And I think it's because a lot of them are grieving, given the fact that he has been working on this show since 2020. So he's been there for basically almost since the beginning, I would say. So um, rest in peace to James. They did a very beautiful tribute um at the end of this episode that we're about to talk about now. Right. He did both the UK and the um the US new separate both for them. So uh he's their Steve Jobs, and we can tell. Yes, because things are not the same. James, but you are missed. Missed. Love you, James. Yeah. Um, now on to Brinity. Yes, Brinity is their edit is really difficult because they are basically seen talking about other people like the whole time. And it that's why I don't know if I believe in their relationship. They're always talking about Melanie and Sincere or somebody else's coupling.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

You know why?

SPEAKER_00 58:49

Because you know, I'ma say I'ma say something crazy. Bryce is a gossip girl, or he could be A in Pretty Little Liars. That's why. So y'all better watch out. When everybody starts getting some iffy stuff happening in their couples, y'all, Jack is working in the making, but Bryce is the head concho behind some of this shit because the way that boy mouth be moving, he loves him because he loves him a good gossip. And I love Trinity because she loves gossiping with her man. I do love gossiping with my man. I love gossiping too. And my girls, I gossip to my damn dog when he listens. So but it's weird because everybody else, you see them talk about themselves, and it's like every time you cut to Trinity and Bryce, almost every time, they're talking about somebody else. So I'm like, are their um conversations not interesting enough? Like, what is going on? Or are these genuinely just talking about other people? You've said this before though. I think is this DJ boo? Hmm. Yeah, because like I said, these episodes are gonna be very repetitive because these people we're getting the same edits over and over again. We have said this before. This is your you brought this up, and every time I try to defend it, I was like, well, this time they did talk about his love for music, uh, DJ Brycey Bryce and how he produced beats. But I would like to know more um about Trinity and Bryce because when we do see them, here's a here's a few things that they talk about. They they love to gossip, they they love to have a good key. Uh Trinity is ever putting down uh racial, you know, injustice in front of Bryce so he can get it because she started talking to him about this is during the gossip with how how it is hard to be a dark-skinned woman and being loved out loud and saying Anaya is facing that, and I was like, okay. And then she had that conversation again about being in an interracial couple and if Bryce's type of coming, because he kept tiptoeing around the conversation, so they always have some conversation about race, and me, I I I understand, I understand why she's doing it and I get it, but in 2016, and I don't want to say that these conversations aren't important, but they they are very, very important, and we should be having these conversations to see where we align with people, especially when you're dating outside of your race, because some people really don't know. But the way Bryce is such a forward man, I feel like these are stuff that he should know, unless he's saying something that we're not seeing it, because I'm like, okay, this is the second time you done brought this up. What is he saying that you're that that that prompted you to have this conversation? And then when they do talk about themselves, it's very meh. Yeah, what do you think? I think so too, because I really I barely see anything with them speaking besides I think she wants to make it very clear like, hey, if we're gonna be in this interracial relationship, I need you to understand the dynamics of um what I face as a black woman, and I don't know if Trinity would be considered a dark-skinned woman or not. Because I was told that I am basically her shade. I was gonna say, like, not that I've issued that, but I'm like, I'm looking at my TV, I'm looking at myself, and I don't think me and Trinity the same shade. Not that I have any issues, but like Trinity is um, she could be my uh well. This is I I'm in the house most of the time, but I do fear on the darker side. Um I'm right before you get to dark skin. I'm I'm dark brown, and Trinity is definitely and also Fiji be changing these girls' skin color. Right. So she may just be my complexion, but because she's in the Fiji, because if you really look, she's starting to get a tan line. She's she's two different shades. So you and Trinity are not the same shade. I don't feel like we would have the same color match.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:32

She's not gonna even got the same color match. You're light and me.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

But I guess you know, she is she's not considered light skinned, just like I wouldn't consider myself light-skinned, so you might, you know, face a little bit more scrutiny than um, say like a soul or whatever. Um, so I understand she's she's trying to like give him some education, like, hey, if we're really gonna be together, you need to understand like racial dynamics, how it is with dating. Because Bryce keeps saying, like, what if your type comes in here or whatever? Yeah. And her type, I don't I guess her type would be like a black man or whatever, but that doesn't guarantee that he's gonna want her back. And I think that's what he's trying to make it clear to you. Yeah, because we're we're we're seeing, um, it's funny that you say something about soul, because I said this, I keep saying this to you because I want you to know how I feel about this. We are seeing reverse colorism happening because with any time, especially in a in a black community, uh, we're now starting to stray away from this because you can see we're developing as people, as, as, you know, as society progresses. But this has probably been the first time in Love Island or in my lifetime that I've seen the light-skinned girl not be wanted. Or no one is gonna light you up because they're gonna say there's no such thing as reverse colors. I am seeing it in full effect because I didn't think that's a real thing, because it's not, it's really not. But I say, damn, not me seeing reverse colors, it's happening in teeth on in real life because the black girls are getting, well, the darker tone girls are being picked. And that's to say like we we don't get picked, we do get picked. But on Love Island, especially, we are not seeing us being represented in the love part where we in our everyday lives are getting picked. We're being told by racist men that we are their type. So we're being told by our own men now openly that we're they love black women, they love them, lashes, extension, natural, and everything. This is my first time seeing it on Love Island and not by a white man where the black girls get picked by the white man, which I find like this whole swirl thing gets me upset because it makes it seem like us being picked by the white man equals validation that we're attractive. No, we're attractive in our own race, but to see Sol not be the frontliner and every man wants to talk to her, I was like, this is this is a coming of age. Yeah, it's it was bizarre because Soul was turning a lot of heads when she first came in and she walked in very confidently with um her pixie cut and her bad, she has a very nice body as well. So I think everybody thought like she was gonna shake it up, but it goes back again to the fact that these people are afraid to piss off their um, you know, couple, and just in case they don't make it work with the bombshell, and then they're vulnerable and gets at home. So yeah, so with with Bryce and Trinity, there there's not really much to say on them because they have these same running conversations about Bryce wanting to explore outside his couple, and I fear that when Casa comes, they are gonna do that. But Trinity, I feel as though she's one of those girls that when she likes you, she likes you, and she's not she's not moving off of that. So um Casa, them boys are who here's a question I would love to ask you. Casa Amor, we know that's tonight. Who do you think is I we know sincere, so don't say sincere. We know that indeed. But who do you think for the boys are gonna act a food? I do fear it's gonna be KC, it's gonna be like the number one because I think the consistent. Conversation with Anaya and having to reassure her so many times has gotten to him because people are starting to say, like, the last time that Anaya told him, like, I don't want you to be joking anymore, was the last time we saw that man smile. And even uh the sinner is like the last time I saw my brothers or the last time the sun. That's the that's Casey's smile. The last time I saw Casey smile was before he before he got coupled up with she he was having himself a good time until she was like, Hey, I need you to be more serious. And he was like, Okay, but no, I think he's tired of having to reassure her. I think he's gonna have internal internalize and reg his regret for not exploring soul, and then I think he's gonna resent Anaya for that because though she, regardless of what she says and how she approaches it, you owe it to yourself, it's your experience to go for what you want, and you didn't do that, so you can't really blame her for it. But I can see him doing that, and or just saying, like, okay, I didn't do it before, so this is my time. Because you know, the Casa girls have been watching the show, they know he's funny, and they're gonna be like, I love the fact that you're funny, I love the fact that you're light, like you know, whoever's into KC, because he is gonna have people in them. They're studying, yeah. Yes, they study, they study just like season six with Cordell and Dias. She knew what to say to Cordell to get him. Now, whether or not he picks the his his Casa girl, I don't know. That's something we'll have to see. If he doesn't, it'll be make for very interesting TV for once with this season. So I really hope some of them do not. Zach, I feel like he's gonna go with his Casa Girl if he finds one, or he's gonna pull a um, a not a what's his name? Kendall of pull a candle and just be like the devil on everybody's shoulder while he looks like the good person and doesn't do anything. But he's been itching to do something, so we'll see about that. And I think Bryce is gonna explore as well. Um, my predictions is that Casey is gonna bring back a casa girl that he fills himself with because he missed that opportunity with soul, and it's easier to get away with things when no one's watching. So I think he's gonna explore a casa girl and and bring her back, and I think Anaya will come back uh single. Uh Sincere is going to come back with a casa girl. Melanie uh I think she's gonna tear herself a new one. She's kind of like my coin flip, but her feelings for Sincer are just too deep, so she's gonna come back single. Bryce may not come back with a casa girl because Trinity is a safe option for him. Hard to say. But his idea of exploring Keda is just asinine. Um put that one in the grave. We're gonna put that one in the grave. So he's gonna I know for a fact um Trinity is gonna be single and Bryce is gonna be single, and they're gonna be coupled up together for Casa. Um, Corbin is he might surprise me, so I'm gonna say he's not gonna come back with anybody from Casa, but he's gonna act a fool. Let somebody give him the kiss, he's gonna take it. But yeah, he is gonna come back with uh Kenzie, and Kenzie is gonna be coupled up with each other. Jen uh I think I don't think he's gonna sorry to cut you all. I really don't think Corbin is gonna not bring back a girl. I think he will. I think he's not. I think he's gonna get his kiss, he's gonna act a fool, and he's gonna stay with Kenzie. If he does bring back somebody, uh, you know. But I want to bet $5. I want to make it interesting. Okay, I'll I'll bet you five. That's all I got. You're not getting no more. I only got five. We're gonna take it out the door, Jazz jar. No, literally. I'll buy you McDonald's or we're gonna do this because McDonald's nasty. I'll I'll raise the five dollars. I'll buy you lunch. Deals? Yes, we'll buy each other lunch. Whoever we're gonna lunch. Corbin is definitely bringing somebody back. He and Kinzie, please. I'm gonna hold you that. So I will buy you lunch, dead eyes. And then Caleb is definitely gonna come back with somebody, and Jen is gonna come back with somebody. I think there's everybody. Oh, Zach and Cada. Um, Zach. Oh I there, yeah, I think Zach and Kanda's gonna be the one who come back with somebody and night. I feel like Kada's gonna come back with somebody and Zach is gonna come back single. Mm-hmm. Because he's gonna be like, oh, I explode. Now I just want you, Cada. I just want you, Cada. I I did what I'm supposed to do in a scarf. Am I supposed to check my connection? Yeah, and I can't believe you bought a bloke back.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:18

You brought back a bloke, Kata. That's so crazy. And then he's gonna complain the bride's like, Could you believe her? Could you believe her? We're gonna cue the Sabrina Carpenter Sallass. Don't you want to go and spend the money on budget on uh music when Casa is over with? I know I said what's like uh uh Sabrina Carpenter's sauce, but she's like, How do you like sweet? How do you like like how do you like my how how does my how do I taste whatever?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:48

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They love Breen Green over there, so she's definitely gonna get her back.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:57

No, I'm fucking we and we have I just want to jump just real quick. When um who is it? Anaya and Trinity have a conversation about something that uh Sincere says that was the funniest thing when they cut to that music. He said, What is you just one thing Love Allen gonna do is wait for you to say one sentence and just stop blurring out a random cover of a song that nobody knows. And I feel like they have their own people that record these specific ass songs because that shit had me weak because it was silent, and this big ass voice just cuts in and says, What don't you just tell me? No, they they they're gonna be like, huh, well, I'm fucking sister gonna say something to somebody and it's gonna come back to Melanie crying, all you're gonna hear is, What you said? Well, of course you did. And we need that. It's it adds to the moment. I love that they do that, and I love that they know we joke about it and they continue to do it. They're like, I'm gonna get us a switch up. Was it the was it the huda? Wait, hold on. It was the Huda scene where Huda and Chris from season seven were having a dinner and they were like bare feet and shit. I don't understand that damn thing. To this day, then the singer randomly comes out and they thought it was they thought it was when a Chris Chris family member. And the lady just started singing, and they were like having literally the most beautiful song, and they're literally breaking up. I think it's like um one and then a mile or something. It's a very beautiful song. She had a very beautiful uh voice, but it was the most awkward moment in Love Island history.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:41

Who's on that goddamn rock singing her heart out? Chris was having an argument about being picked up over the water. And then they're just like, thanks. Yeah, it's like cut it, cut it, cut it. They didn't need to bring her out, they knew where that was going.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:04

But no, I gotta give it to season seven because that was the most insane thing I've seen when I think. I literally have like, hold on, I have tears. Because really, what was happening, like, why are we breaking up in final horror? No, no, seriously. I they have yet for this season to hit a good song that just makes you be like, I need someone to have a serious conversation, and then a random song just with just yelling, and it's there's a woman doing it too, which makes it even because she's belting a ballot. Oh, an unnecessary ass ballot. Oh my god. Oh boy, that shit was funny. I when I say I was cracking up in my room, my goodness, that shit was hilarious. Ugh. I just I can't wait for like I hope they don't pull that same bullshit with Casa. Just keep the format. Um, no, it's just Casa is gonna be so funny when the art at not Casa the whatever, after Casa. Right, the recoupling after casa. Post Casa, because them conversations, we gotta keep an eye out for that. If a random song busts out, we gotta Oh, we will because it'll be dead eye silent and then they're just gonna fucking have somebody wailing. I swear. I at at that time I will be making sure I get my Kenzie count for her splits. Oh yes, you gotta from now on you gotta do her split count. So let's talk about the um recoupling and the the letters. Um honestly there isn't much to say because everybody letters to me were just okay. But coming to the two, I want to just jump to the two interesting ones, which was Kenzie in her mailbox, she had two letters from Corbin and from Caleb. Yeah. And Melanie and no, Sincere had one from Melanie and one from Seoul. So on the Kenzie and Corbin side, she ends up picking Corbin. She so how they have this setup is you write somebody a love letter and you're not sure if you're gonna get one back. So they dramatically have people open the uh mailbox slowly to see if they receive a letter back. And then of course they faces yes, see the shame. They they save the most messy ones for the end because that's how you do it. And to me, it's very obvious if they ask you to open your mailbox first, you're not getting one. So I feel as though they need to just have people open it at the same time. So we're unaware who's gonna get one and who's not gonna get one. But Caleb opens his and he did not get one, and it's embarrassing for him, and he just goes and sit down and he he handles this very well because he says, seeing the smiles on their faces, I'm just happy for them. Like I always told Kenzie I want her to be happy. Like he got the sympathy vote right there. He he gained a lot of fans. I didn't notice, but Caleb's social media, he's like the second most follow-up person or whatever of somebody that's still currently in the villa, which Caleb has barely been on screens, but they are rallying against towards this white man because he's being done wrong by a balanced, a fake balanced that the real Bonds have formed a unity against Kenzie, and they are going to make sure they are a team Caleb and make sure that man gets all the brand deals for being a farmer, being a cowboy, everything. They're gonna support him. You know, you know, it's really it's something to say. You know how how bad it is that your own race, Kenzie, you're making your own race of women mad at you. And I've I have not seen that, I have not seen that in a minute since um Vanderpunt rule, where um when Ariana had that conversation with her friend, her what's her best friend's name at the time that cheated on her with her husband. Raquel? Yes. I've never seen a bunch of white women rally behind another, you know, against another white woman the way they are. And this is also back to Summer House where everybody was mad at Amanda. Um I have not seen them. So you have upset your own race of women that they're having a legit petition on the man to get they're like, it's the bottle blondes. We're telling you, the real blondes, we don't act that way. We swear on God, we don't act that way. Is the ones that go to the salon to get what our shade is. Because Raleigh behind Caleb, that's been there for like what four episodes and no. At one point I forgot Caleb was even on TV because every time I see him, he's in the background. Exactly. Oh, okay. So at the end of this recoupling, Kenzie and Corbin are on a high, right? And Corbin says, America can't split this up. And we said, watch this, because they give us a um, they give us a vote after this, basically, that they are obviously unaware of on what which is our favorite couple. But before we get into that, I do want to talk about the soul, Melanie, and Sincere Triangle. Last we left off, Sincere had basically spent all his time talking to Soul and building a connection with her. I think this was over a course of two days. I don't think it was more than that. But he hasn't spoken to Melanie and hasn't pulled her at all. So Sol is over here thinking that he is 100% about her. And when he says he wants to speak to her, speak to Melanie one more time, she has no reason not to believe like this is just gonna be a closed-off conversation. Just for him to have the conversation to open things back up again. So we do we're at the mailbox with Sincere getting two letters, and then now we're opening Sol's mailbox first. She has nothing, and she says she had a feeling that she had like woman's intuition that he was gonna pick Melanie, and she just basically sits down and is clearly sad, but she tries to keep it cute, and they do their little happy recoupling, and we leave things off there, and we end the episode with America voting. Then we get into the nitty gritty of this last episode, not last episode, second to last episode, where Soul does her big one and she gets in Sincere's ass. And I was so happy to see it. I was so happy to see it. Sincere is the devil himself. This man is gonna say, This is a this I'ma set the scene, y'all. They're sitting down, um, talking. First of all, he went to who was it, Corbin, as to how he's supposed to go about this conversation with Soul of all people, Chat GPT Corbin. Is Bryce uh is Bryce breaking the fourth wall in that last episode saying uh Corbin is a robot? I was like, they know something. Yes, that's another thing. These people are getting said some sort some pigeon is flying to VG and giving them a message that uh Corbin is Chat GPT and that Bryce and Zach's bromance is the talk of the town because they were playing into it a little too much. So, yeah, so he asked Corbin and he basically tells him to just like approach it as nice as possible and know that she's gonna be upset. So Soul was definitely upset and told him that he is a liar, that he if he had Melanie in the back of his mind, he should have told her dad. That he kept reassuring her that he wants to be in the couple and all of this other stuff. That's for him to turn around and say that she's no angel either. And she said, How am I not an angel when I literally have done nothing? He tries to gaslight and flip the situation. So for Sincere to want to talk about accountability later on, I think in this episode or next episode, was laughable because she was not letting him up. She said, All I asked, she was um dropping F bombs, basically want to say F you, F you, was cracking the whip. And I you can't hear it, but yes, you can't hear it, but that's me whipping souls, um, not souls that yeah, you gotta make the sound effect. Hold on, guys, one more time. Yeah, get his ass. And this was my favorite interaction because everybody been a little too cutesy about everything and like hiding their real feelings. She let it be no, no, I don't agree with this, and I also don't mess with you. I do believe that if Soul was more receptive to his BS and more kind and was like, you know, I'm open, um, I understand. And if you still want to explore, then we can explore, he would have totally done that. What do you think? Uh I fully agree with that sentence because the way Melanie treats Sincere like he's a baby, and be like, well, because when she when she had that conversation with him, she was like, Yeah, like I completely understand where she's coming from. Yes, validate her feelings, Melanie, but then also turn around like well, I'm back with my man, so whatever she's mad about, you know, right? He will you can tell that's why I say he's non-confrontational, because seeing that conversation with Sol and Sincere reminds me of when I was with my ex-boyfriend, um, that that I was with not too long ago. And when when I would confront him about something that he was doing wrong, I didn't curse him or nothing, I'd just be like, I do not appreciate that, like I don't like it. He gets really like put off that I would even remotely be upset about an action and was just profusely apologize. But I'm like, you don't need to apologize, it's not something that I want to be apologized about. It's something that um I I want you to hear me what I'm saying and follow up with the action. Not everything that is being said needs an apology. It's the fact that what I'm saying to you, you understand it and you're receiving that information to you understand like where I'm coming from and correct that behavior. You can see him visibly get uncomfortable with that conversation because she made a switch from being this really like refreshing girl that he knows a lot of his life to this really basically demonic person that he's trying to make her out to be like, oh, like who who is this? And it gave it gave my ex's relationship where when he did piss me off and I cussed him out, he could not believe that I was cursing at him. He did not know where that behavior is coming from. Um, because you're doing fuck shit. That and she deserved to cuss him. Like, I'm surprised she didn't go in on his ass a little bit more because she was like, say that shit. Say that shit. Oh, she gave him real hood. She was like, then say that. Then say that. And that's what he's been trying to avoid this whole entire summer, because or a week or whatever. Um, because he doesn't want the confrontation and the raw feelings of this w these women. And he thought, because Melanie believes his BS that she would too, right? Exactly. And I think he would have kept playing whistle and still ultimately pick Melanie at the end of the day. Because again, I mean he could have real feelings for Melanie, but he doesn't respect her either. And she's the easier option because she's gonna fall for what he's saying. But also at this very moment, Melanie doesn't know every single instance of his lies. So hopefully, when she sees everything, she moves on from him and just leaves it at that and doesn't let her feelings like take over. But as of right now, in this situation, he knows that the situation with him and soul is completely over. Like, she did not leave room for any misinterpretation. She does not mess with that man. Um, and we're just gonna jump a little bit forward to the dumping part where she's getting dumped and she whip that's me whipping again. She says again because she had to be like everybody, which which is which is so crazy because if if some the way they were talking about this dumping, right, from the boy's perspective, that if the girls were to pick who to went to go home should have been Caleb, and from from the girl's perspective, the person that probably should have gone home would have been Jen in the boys' eyes. You get what I'm saying? Um but or maybe I have those backwards, but you get what I'm saying. They whatever. And I feel like this is such a cop-out because you've said this before. Putting the bombshells together, knowing that there's a high possibility that both of them may get voted off, it's such an unfair thing to do because nobody on that island was doing a couple up situation and whatever. Two, who was so supposed to explore. And there were two bombshell girls, so Jen had the only other single guy on that villa because if Bea went home, so there was no competition. If Bea was still there, all three of their asses would have been packed up and and gone home. And the girls were right. Let's give Caleb a chance because he didn't get a chance. Um, and he should stay. Uh, Gabe can go home in because here's another thing. We have three people now that came out out of that villa and said Gabe is more than a passionate man because I don't want to call him, you know. Yeah. Gabe is more than a kisser and uh move him fast. We have um Bryce in the episode saying, Not because a guy is lustful doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve love too. That's the most slut-shaming thing ever. Okay, progressive. Um, but we're watching the girls say, out of their mouth, say he may move on to the next bomb show, which I think is bullshit. Because I like I said, I don't want to watch this man cry about 40 days and 40 nights when the girls are even in the villa and he had to move on. And I think they were just trying to get him out. Apart from the boys picking soul to get out, they should have really honestly they should have kicked Jen out because she didn't explore anybody but the other single guy in the villa, to be quite frank. How are you gonna kick out people for exploring but get mad at the girls for picking out somebody in a couple? Y'all are saying, Oh, because these two people are in a couple and they're not serious, they should go. How is that? Yeah, the um the whole dumping didn't make any sense. So before we jump too too far ahead with that, I will say also Caleb was clocking Kenzie because this is where she is like, I didn't mean for this to play out the way it did at the recoupling because um, you know, I still care for you, you're the cutest cowboy to come in here. That's when he says, I'm the only cowboy to come in here, girl. But he basically, I think he told somebody, I think it's sincere for some reason, ends up like being his bestie. But he ends up saying, like, you know, I don't like how she moved and all this other stuff. And I think she said she still wanted to be friends, and I think he kind of made that clear, like he doesn't really care to talk to her in that way as nice as he possibly could. But one thing about these bombshells, they're not playing, they're like, You waste my time, I'm done. Good for them. Don't let somebody play in your face twice. So good on Caleb. And Caleb ends up saying his feelings kind of towards Kata, like he was trying to explore Kata because he has a conversation with Zach as well. I think the boys they're just kind of feeling bad for him, if I'm remembering correctly. I think this is let's just say we do a 14 to 15 because I my brain is like meshing the two. But um the boys are kind of like, okay, he has to explore someone, so he ends up kind of feeling Kata a little. Bit and Zach just hands it up to him and like on the platter, anyways, because he's so confident that Kada wants him, and that's gonna bite him in the ass because there's still many, many other men for her to explore. Whether she's not feeling somebody right now, currently on the island, that doesn't mean she's not gonna feel somebody in casa. But, anyways, so yeah, Caleb is like, okay, let me start exploring. Him and Soul try to have a conversation, but I think they both know, like, hey, we're just better as friends, like, we have nothing in common. And at this point, also, Soul ends up talking to Casey and Bryce about feeling that everybody's closed off and kind of feeling excluded. And then Casey says, What can we do to make you feel welcome? And then Bryce is like, I think she just wants to be wanted. And that was the funniest part of the episode to me because it's very clear she wants someone to give her a chance to kind of show interest in her or at least not make it feel like she's completely wasting her time there. And it was nice to Casey and Bryce, even though I feel like Bryce is just chatting with people to get information, so he can go back and tell Trinity or he could go back and tell his other gossip queen, right? Yes, but that was nice of them to like sit down and talk to her and and things, and uh you could just tell Soul is done with the with the situation with uh sincere, just for Cynthia to hop back to Melanie, and Melanie wants to know exactly what the conversation is like and blah zé blah. At first, uh Melanie's like, Oh, here he goes pulling her, but the girls were like, he has to have the conversation with her, he owes her that, which is true. Like, you gotta explain, like, what the heck just happened. So uh he runs and tells Melanie, oh, she just kind of basically goes off on me, like that's not really exactly what happened. You're over here trying to slide by accountability, and she's calling you on your crap, but she definitely was like F you and without saying it. But yeah, the way he painted it, and she was like, Oh, well, yeah, you let you kind of make it seem like you like people. And someone clacked it was like, Melanie, you only know that because of how he did it to you when Soul walked in the door and told you everything was fine, and then slid over and was in a couple in a bed kissing her and all this other stuff. So how you're okay with that, we don't know. But how do you think about that whole situation with Melanie Sincere Soul?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:15

Um, pretty little birds, pretty little birds.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:21

You know every word. I might know something from the Love Island song just busting out into songs, you know. Uh I tell you, Melanie just is telling us how the how Gen Z is dated. And if that's how they dated, I fear I would just stay single because we are in a Gen Z era of dating. Everything is just everybody's just avoiding communication, everybody's avoiding accountability. Um I'm not saying that millennials had a way better time or they talked to more each other more effectively, but when you really think about Love Island overall, who were the demographics that we were watching on TV? Yeah. Wake it up, hello, the phone is ringing. You know, who we're we're now phase of the the last millennial on that show is Bryce. Bryce and Sean were both 29. Um, as of right now, because the season is not done. Um after that, we're gonna see more Gen Z because it's it's really now their time to be on the show. And I've been confused when people like, oh, the age demographic should be up because the youngest person on that show is Caleb and he's 21. And I'm it's kind of really telling to see Trinity and Caleb be the most like mature people on the show, and they're the youngest, and also Kada because it's Caleb would be 21, Trinity and Kada would be 22, and then up from there, it jumps to Melanie, then Anaya, and then it goes up. So just to watch the younger, the younger kids have a more mature time, and we're watching the older ones that are older than them, I was still a difficult time communicating. I was just like, is it the 2000s then down? Like, what's what's what's going on? And no one's no one's communicating well because there's no way Sincere should get away with that much. But then again, I watch Toby get away with it, Tyree get away with it, Mike Cinco, uh, and it goes on, his predecessor goes on. But we are watching multiple people say sincere is going head to head with one of the worst men's like in Love Island history, and I hate to see that happen to a young king, so I don't know, Brittany. I really don't have any commentary on that because you would have me over here damn well having the Corbin return to one of my favorite people because I now see he has a personality. I mean, yeah, in comparison of like who's doing uh dirt, it's definitely not too much Corbin. I feel like he's in a better position to wear because he came in as a bombshell. And um, you know, he isn't telling he has made boundaries when it came to Kenzie, or at least tried to. He might have like, you know, fell back on that a little and it's a bit shady, but I feel as though Kenzie was more trying to get to know Caleb than Melanie and him were hitting it off. So I think he kind of comes off that scot-free versus Sincere that is telling everybody he's all in and you can't be all in with two people. Like you instead of telling people like, oh, I'm gonna explore this, but I still want to explore you as well. He's doing whatever it is that he's doing, and I just can't wait for movie night. But unfortunately, this now goes. I haven't talked about Jenna Gay because basically they've just kind of been there's nothing to say. Yeah, they've just been making out and stuff, but it's important to remind that everybody they're together. And Jenna are uh allegedly giving Felicio, so yeah, they're doing it on camera, real clear. See, it's just kidding. But no, everybody like the little head count. I need them to just show me them sleeping. I don't need to see them doing it every episode. Like, we get it, they're getting frisky in there. But we saw that Jen and Gabe did go all the way, or so it seems, on TV. Um, and now we're at a dumping because not much happened besides Soul really gave it to Sincere in this episode, and then talked to people about how she was feeling. Um, so it go comes down to the bottom three, which is Kenzie and Corbin, Gabe and Jen, and then also Soul and um Kayla, because for some reason they didn't exempt them from the vote. I was like, I'm voting for uh Soul and Kayla because that's not fair. So they're the bottom three, and the guys have to pick which girl goes home, and the girls have to pick which guy goes home. So for some reason they had sincere do the dumping and say, Watch and you watch Trinity was like, Why did you why did they make you do it? Yeah, at the end, she ends up calling that out because it was weird. So he ends up making the explanation that Soul wasn't really exploring or whatever, which is crazy given the fact that he was assuring her that their connection was solid. So why am I exploring when people are already closed off? And to be very fair, she has talked to KC multiple times. It's KC that has said he wasn't sure. So when we're when they're doing the deliberation, they asked him, would he explore um soul if she stays? And he said he wants to, but too little, too late, they vote to kick out Soul. She is not at all surprised, and she says it's been Couples Island in here. I feel like I just came in too late. I'm happy y'all found y'all people. But you know, she has said multiple times she feels isolated throughout the season. So when she carries on that story outside of the villa, and people say, like, oh, she's uh just leaning into a narrative that people have set. No, she has said that in the villa before she knew anybody was on her side with that. But anyway, she basically lets everybody know that they're weird in there and that she's getting put out of her misery. And then we have Melanie saying the ending for Gabe, like they end up choosing Gabe, and their reason is they feel like he just moved on so quickly from Bea. I don't know what they expected, and that he feels like they feel like as though he's not gonna be content with Jen. Like he feels they feel like he's gonna keep looking for the next best thing. Mind you, it's still early days, and that's what everybody should be doing. They just feel I feel as though they didn't want to give Caleb the short end of the stick, and they kept Corbin because of his relationship with Kenzie, and they didn't really have a good reason to um dump Gabe. And I think that Melanie's speech was rude. I feel like she was just basically like, Oh, you're just here for a good time. Meanwhile, in aftersun, he says he told all the girls that he was feeling her, that he seriously likes her and he's happy in his couple, and he wrote a very sweet letter to her in um the last recoupling. So I was like, that's not a good reason. They just didn't have a good reason, basically. They just wanted to give Caleb a I thought the that them picking Gabe was fair, and I understand why they did it. Their reasoning for why they did it was very like all put in. Just said, hey, you had the opportunity to explore uh a connection, and we're not kicking you off because of that connection. We just think that your connection is a little bit early compared to Corbin and Kenzie, and they have been exploring and decided that they want to be in a couple with each other as opposed to Caleb, who needed a fair chance. We just picked him because we feel as though he deserves a chance. Not to say you don't, somebody has a by the end of the day. And girls, Zach wasn't wrong when he said it. When he was like, Now that Caleb is in here, are you guys going to talk to um to Caleb? And you know, my girl Trinity was like, I'll talk to him, and Bryce was like, Oh no, hold on now, you know. So Zach wasn't wrong when he said it. You guys pick Caleb to stay in here. Are you going to now explore him? Because if if the reason being is to pick Caleb for him to explore, you guys have to give him a chance to explore because y'all don't know if a they're only doing that because they know a bombshell is going to come in, and then it's like, oh Caleb, here's a bombshell. That doesn't necessarily mean that the bombshell is going to be for Caleb. And I understand, as opposed to the boys that pick Soul to get out because oh, you explore, you can't get in a couple, get the hell out. It's unfair because you guys didn't give her the opportunity to explore and be like, well, divide your hands with all of us, and you you're not gonna find a match in here. So everybody was all right and everybody was all wrong. But my thing is with these recoupling, and this happens every Love Island season, is that we give them the opportunity to to pick because you ask the public, and then we give them the deciding factor of of who to pick, and then amongst themselves, they get angry. Somebody has to go home. Would Caleb have been the easier option? Yes, but also y'all could have sent Jen home for not exploring, but y'all couldn't because nobody gave her the opportunity, so it would have been contradictory to be like, well, Jen, you didn't give us an option to explore you, so we don't know you, and if we feel as though soul tried and she didn't get a chance, and it's gonna look like, well, who am I to talk to you? And the girls can't say anything about Gabe or Corbin, but to have to have Caleb stay is kind of selfish because are you like Zach said, are you gonna talk to him? Yeah, no, I didn't like how Zach spoke to the woman because I just feel like that came from a place of anger. At the end of the dumpings, the guys were really upset that Gabe went home. I think they really wanted Caleb to go home and they also had to check themselves because you're riled up. We know you don't want Corbin to go home because that cornball gonna stick back in Z. He's not really a threat at this very moment. And Gabe wasn't a threat either because he was matched with Jen and nobody else was like interested in him. And that's their homeboy, like they really liked him. But the way that they approached the situation, Zach said something about like, oh, y'all might not get um breakfast tomorrow when Jen said I need the men to like help help me with breakfast. And he just I feel like they just took it way too much. It was uh to me a little bit worse than not worse than mom, but it was just teetering the the uh it was just unnecessary, I feel as though. Because it at least with the Rob and Andrea situation dumping, that was his couple, so he more so had a right to be super duper upset because you're forcing me out of my couple. This is just your homeboy. Somebody had to go. So I think the boy is being overly um, first of all, I want to talk about the fact that Sincere said that Jen doesn't give a fuck that he's going home at the dumping. When Ariana asked Jen how she feels, she's like, I'm really upset because not only is it hitting him, it's also her, like saying soul's her friend and he's her couple, so now I'm losing two people. For some reason, Sincere mothers under his birth, like she don't give a fuck. And the only reason we kept her is her connection with Gabe. So Jen has absolutely nothing to do with the vote that the girls do have been blocked. They could have went, they could have sent home, they could have sent Jen home, but they didn't. They wanted to get Soul out because Soulmates since Sincere gave me that when you know you you get your side chick pregnant and you just want to get her out or whatever. That's what it gives. And he was just trying to get that girl out because why y'all make Sincere be the one to kick her out was very much like rude and a kicking because she already had a conversation with Bryce and Casey about wanting to be wanted and wanting to explore, but no one's given her the chance. And y'all let Sincere of all people deliver the news, it's not adding up. It could have been literally anybody else. Um, so yeah, for him to make that weird statement, and they seem to have buyer's remorse for keeping Kenzie because they're like, if if we went to the girls' lodge, we would have sent Kenzie home and nobody was stopping y'all. So it's like they split the vote between two different groups for a reason because y'all aren't thinking the same. It's not like y'all got to sit down and be like, oh, this is who we dump in, so you gotta dump this. Like you gotta stand by your decision that I'm happy all the girls like supported each other and said, We chose this because of this, and if it doesn't make sense to you, sorry, he's already gone. Because what do you want me to do? We had no choice, we didn't want to send anybody home, but we had to pick someone, and this was our reason why, even if it don't make sense to you, that's our logic. So, yeah, the fact that he was muttering that under his breath, I'm like, the only reason why you're doing that is because Jen be clocking your teeth, and that's the thing with him. Every time a woman can call him out for who he is, mind you, she's the one that pied him and said, You're sincere, but you're not honest. And also was telling, he doesn't know this, but it was telling Soul, like, be careful because look at how he switched up on Melanie. Come to find out, Jen was correct about that. So, yeah, she sees him for who he is and he doesn't like her. So now he's thinking, like, oh, I could have got her out too. And he, of course, has no romantic feelings towards her. But it's like, look at how he values a woman when they are basically calling him out on his BS. Just for him to turn around and say the girls were mad at them because they're calling them out on their BS, it's not BS. Their reasoning is their reason at the end of the day. Whether or not you agree with it, they don't care. They already sent Gabe home. We can't bring him back. Like Trinity said, if you want to be Gabe so bad, then go. Right. And she ate with that one. She was like, if y'all really want to talk about something, I'll give y'all something to talk about him because she's right. Someone had to go home at the end of the day, and not because you want to get the bombshells out so we can all stay in a couple, doesn't mean that we think Gabe shouldn't be here. I just think they have a they just over-explain too much and it comes off really rude. Because all Melanie had to say was um everyone deserves to be here, and the fact that we have to be the deciding factor sucks. Gabe, I think that you should go home because your couple is just as fresh as Soul and Caleb, but you had the opportunity, more opportunity than the rest to explore, but it's also because your couple is still new. Corbin and Ken D, like I said, has already been in a couple. That's all they have to say. We just want to give Caleb a chance. For the boys' reasoning, I don't really give their damn reasoning. They could have just picked Jen to go home and give the mouthful a chance, but because Sincere doesn't want to get cut out anymore and be uncomfortable, and he just wanna frolic Mel Melanie around and be comfortable, and also Casey don't want to have this riffus now. Because if Soul was to stay, then it's like, nah, I gotta explore her because I gave her hopes that I did want to try something. Now she's gonna ponder off on you. So they're just trying to get her out. So I agree completely. So that whole dumping was BS, and America was mad because we're like, what's the point of us voting? Because we wanted Kenzie and Corbin out first and foremost. Then Soul was there, you know, giving us drama, eating him up, and she probably would have did it again in like a more subtle way had she stayed, and that would have been funny. But unfortunately, Gabe and Soul were sent a packing, and then the men were just weird as hell about it. Bryce saying that the girls were so shaming Gabe, that was a little funny to me, but he do have a little bit of a point. Like you can't be like, Oh, you're lustful. And Casey said the same thing too. When we're all put in like lustful situations, we're all like kissing at each other in these challenges and doing all this like stuff that we wouldn't do on the outside. I think they just got tired of hearing Gabe like having sex in a even though he only did it one time and get a freaky deeky in the room. Right. Cause no, and you and I hate to see a group of men that damn progressive where the girls are starting to look like like what do you mean? Oh, he's lustful. I literally just watched Kenzie do a split laying down in a in a uh princess outfit. Yeah, thinking she's Aurora. No, she was yellow. Well, what color was Kenzie? She was she was orange, so she was out here being Mrs. Daisy and shit with her legs sprawl open, holding them shit while Corbin is literally dry humping her. I watched Melanie straddle who is it that she straddled, Corbin, and was humping on him and kissing. So that lustful comment. I was like, y'all are not making sense because y'all just let a group of six men lick y'all toes. Well, that hasn't happened yet. But yes, that happens this coming episode. But yes. They really before that, they kissing all the time. But I just watched y'all, like, I mean, afterwards, yeah. I just watched y'all afterwards, made a lustful comment.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:08

Just for the next scene, Kenzie have her legs through open. Which is it?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:13

Yeah, it's a lot of that going on. So again, Melanie was the one that did the speech and nobody wrote it for her. So it's really more so her like being the um spokesperson. So I can't say it's every single girl that was singing that way, but all she had to say was, I'm sorry, Gabe, like we pe we choosing you just because we feel as though you've gotten a chance to explore and we're not quite sure based on like how fast she moved from Baya. Something just cut it down to before it gets to this like weird place that it ended up being too long. Absolutely. So we then move on from that. I think most of this episode was that challenge, too, which was unnecessary. It was like they were princes and princesses and did this like weird kissing thing where the person gets to choose who they get revenge on and other. I didn't even understand the challenge to be honest. All I know was I'm really un trying to understand why we're looking to lose on Love Island. And somebody said they're trying to reheat Nick O'Landria when Nick licked uh Olandria's feet in the Heartbeat Challenge. And I that was the first thought I had. What did you think about that? You know what it is? We have band together as a society and told Love Island, y'all do one more food shit, and we're getting the fuck up off this shit, and we're gonna report y'all to BBB, right? So they're saying, how do we compensate for no more nasty food shit because everybody is yucking, you know, it yucks their yums. What can we do that is equally disturbing but keep the viewers' attention? A whole bunch of gyro reading and toe licking. Let me tell you something, Love Island. I'm watching y'all bring back the fucking Twitter challenge. Do the do the headline challenge. Y'all, y'all can still do this thing where y'all read off the thing, but skip the kissing or whatever and just the extra what is up with the fucking slime?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:03

This is the fucking thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:04

I want the little like twist and split. Like, let me see them dancing or do something else. That's besides what what happened to the fire pit challenge where people are sitting around a fire pit and they just pick the person, or I think the UK does a better challenge forward than the US. And though they go ahead to head, UK does way better challenges, they have way more interesting um questions, more thought-provoking that leads to an argument, but not too much. But like, why did you pick me on that type shit? Right. They just do the most, and it's starting to get annoying because y'all went from food now to toe licking time.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:44

Gross.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:45

And then after you lick them people's toes, you have to kiss your person. Like, that's disgusting. You know, Corbin at that point, he every every episode, Corbin is starting to make more and more sense. He's like me with that, not licking nobody's feet. He's like, I'm not licking nobody's feet, but and especially because this glass slippers don't even fit on everybody's fucking foot. So I'm not putting on no shoes that 10 other bitches done wore. Like, no. Yeah, no, it's unnecessary. I think a cute little, like, we shouldn't do nothing with feet. But I think a cute little kiss um on the cheeks or whatever, or no, on the lips, just like a little peck would have sufficed if y'all really want to kiss. But we should never do nothing with feet again. I think it's whoever is producing that portion needs to do a better job. Because agreed, nothing is progressing. It's the same storyline of somebody saying something. Bryce, I think it was this time it was Bryce saying something about um KC because before we got to the challenge, I guess this something did happen. Bryce said something about he knew him and Anaya, and what was the other couple? Zach and Kada, I think were gonna be a top four. Yeah. And then Bryce was like taken aback. He's like, What are you talking about? I've been in my couple since day one. So that's another way to see that they're thinking so much about America's perception. But I think the way that um KC said it. It was just kind of very like uh in passing and didn't really mean anything by it. But it's clear Bryce took personal to that because he's mentioned it to Zach, and Zach was like, Oh, I think that uh Kenzie and Corbin are stronger than Anaya and KC, which is a weird thing to say. Why are you comparing two random ass people? It'd be one thing to say you and Trinity are stronger than Anaya and KC, but why are you bringing Corbin and and Kenzie into this? It's very weird. This year, the couples are too aware of favorite couples. Um, one, they don't get the concept of the show, which is terrible. Two, they're too aware of their this is the this is the most I've seen couples talk about, oh, we're the strongest couple, we're dis coupled, we're gonna make a far because we're discouple. I'm like, who they I don't know if the producers need to step in and be like, hey, y'all gotta cut out that because they have their free days on the free days when they separate the boys and the girls and tell them they can't talk anything about the love island, whatever. They need to say to them, we gotta stop having this couple conversation because it's starting to seem as though you guys are staying in your couple because you know it will push you further towards the because why would Kenzie be so shocked that she's in the bottom? Yeah, she was like, Oh, I thought we're gonna be in the top. So everybody is having this perception. You guys have no idea what we're seeing, you don't know what your partner is saying 24-7. That's something you need to be factored into. Sticking with your couple, especially because y'all all have the same strategy. So if my if everybody's strategy is sticking with the one person, then nobody's gonna stand out and it's all gonna look fake. It would have been smarter for for KC to explore Seul and then realize, hey, I still have feelings for an eye. That would have came off way more organic if that was your idea of uh top couple, because he said, Oh, you went and explored Kata. So I'm which I understand because he um Bryce tried to do that the first night and then try to do it again, and you try to do that again for a second time, so that looked a little strange, versus if KC had just gone ahead and talked to Sol because this was the new person that came in. You had every right to do so, it's still early days, but with Bryce, it did look a little strange. Little do they know Trinity is carrying that that couple because nobody really cares for Bryce. But that's another thing, these men are also thinking that they are pulling a big weight in these couples, and they never do. On any Love Island in any season in any universe, is always the girl that they are rooting for first and foremost, because men are dumb. So we're not gonna root for them. Correct. So I'm so lost why everything you say, I agree wholeheartedly because I'm so confused why every episode since episode two are niggas having conversations like we're the strongest couple. We've seen this from Bryce who talks to Trinity about after the whole Keda thing about how they're the strongest couple. We see it with Sincere talking to Melanie, saying, Oh, you know, he feels so strongly in a couple because they're so strong. We see it with KC talk about how they're strong. We see it with Zach, talk about how him and Keda are strong, and Bryson and Trinity are strong, even though trying to break up Bryce and Trinity in the he had a weird phase with them. Um, we see with Kenzie being so surprised that she's at the bottom of not knowing that the only thing lower than them fucking splits that she be doing is the rating of her couple. So everybody's having this couple conversation and it's and it's starting to throw me off. And at this point, it's only me continuing off of the strength of this podcast because if I hear one more couple talk, I'm going to lose it, Bridget. No, seriously. I will tweet from my burner account saying y'all need to get the shit together because why are they so self-aware about their couples being a show when nobody gave them the impression that they're okay? Y'all all are on a chopping block. No, literally, everybody is one weird statement away from being on the chopping block because we don't really have saves this season. Like it's like, okay, we like these people, but y'all are move all moving weird in your own way. I think Trinity has the strongest fan base because she's been her most consistent self. Um, and I don't think she's pissed anybody off, really. Which is so weird because Kenzie has the highest following. That was goddamn Caleb. It's not Kenzie anymore. Soul and Bia have passed her, and I think Melanie has a higher following on if we're talking about Instagram. I don't really know about TikTok, but uh Trinity TikTok is private, so and Sean has a million, I think, on TikTok. So I think he might be just the highest follow there. But yeah, no, it was Kenzie at one point because they were giving her lots of screen time, but then everybody's like, Whoa, you're weird, and then they moved against it because they ended up the boys end up calling um Kenzie lustful when they're talking about like the dumpings, and then Corbin tells her that, which you know that's your your couple, so that makes sense. And she's like, How am I lustful? I'm like, girl, all we ever do it in the black do it in the black scene. I don't even know what she said. How am I lustful? How they finna say I'm lustful? How they finna say I'm lustful. I ain't lustful.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:05

I uh I ain't I ain't I ain't lustful. I ain't talking about nothing lustful.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:12

No, Kenzie and her weird life. I don't need I kiss it sometimes, but I think I just be trying to ignore her, honestly. But no, she really had the nerve to say that when literally all her and Corbin that we see, I'm sure they do have a little bit of a deeper conversation, but their main subject is some sort of sex or kissing or whatever. So she was taken aback from that, and that should wake them up to see, like, maybe I don't know what they're showing them. It is you are filmed 24-7, they have a narrative to edit, they have a storyline to tell throughout the season. Nobody knows what that is, so you guys should just be yourselves and stop worrying about favorite this and favorite that. And if your personality meshes with the audience, then it doesn't. And if it doesn't, it doesn't. There's always a couple people in the season that we don't like. I have two suggestions for challenges, right? For Love Island. If they ever listen to this podcast, and they will. When they do, I need two challenges. I need the Twitter challenge back. I don't really care about a headline challenge, that's more of a UK thing. I need a Twitter challenge back, and I also y'all be doing them questionnaires where y'all be asking us questions in whatever. Y'all need to have these questions be a challenge as well. Like tell us something about this islander, tell us something about this couple or whatever, and gather those questions. And whenever it comes up, be like, why does so-and-so be in this, whatever, whatever, and let those be two separate challenges, but make it a twist. Do one as an outside challenge, and they have something to do with like a water activity. I'm done with a fucking spine. Yes. Do something like a water activity, and then the other one be a fire pit challenge where they're dressed in their little get up. And then once they do that questionnaire, one of the questions be like, What's what's tall, handsome, and blah blah blah? They're all like, What? Well, who is this? Boom, a fucking bombshell. Exactly. Give us something that's gonna advance the plot, please. And then uh, and then a bombshell comes like two bombshells that come in, one man and one woman, and a bombshell comes in, and then it's like, whoa, one of the questions being about a bombshell, everybody's like, Whoa, what's that? And it's a and it's a bombshell. No bombshell coming in on no no damn challenges, just bombshell it up. And yeah, like and that would be so exciting because one in the chaos, they have to worry about one entertaining this this bombshell through these fucking questionnaires from Instagram that they have to have a discussion on. So it's it's a it's a chaos. It's a chaos anything. They're reading off the thing, and then in the heat of the moment, now they're asking spicy questions, now everybody's a little upset, and then the question be about the bombshell, and nobody knows what's going on. And this bombshell just walks in, and here comes Ariana, like hey, I got a question for you, and and it's just a fucking bombshell. And then here's this here's a fucking twist. They're gonna ask the bombshell. I have a question for you as well, bombshell, whatever. Pick an islander that you want to couple up with. They pick an islander that they want to couple up with and say, now, so or so, you are you are single and off the island. Yeah, they need that. They need a um very, no, like whatever people process it, just get people off because we don't really have favorites. No, no, nothing. No, like, and you're vulnerable and single. So please pack your bags. You got 30 minutes to get off the fucking island. But you know what? The producers do not have somebody they hate the most because when it came to Kane from last season, they didn't even tell him he had 30 minutes. They said immediately. They said five minutes just to fuck off the island. When it came to Catherine from the UK season, they let they let fucking Whitney, Whitney, who was her best mate in the villa, she wasn't even at the fucking fire pit. They were sitting down eating fucking um cheesies. That's what they call their grilled cheese, they're fucking cheesies. And then they just chat, and then oh I got a text. Catherine, you're off the villa. I was like, wait a whole, I was like, hold on, wait, I had to sit up. I was like, hold on, hold on. I need that moment. I need them to Yeah, they need to do something shocking and doing the the voting to have the islanders like pick is tired. We gotta do something else. Do not hate anybody enough on a show, and it shows when they dislike the character, not a character, when they dislike an islander, they're quick to pack their bags. When the public generally dislike an islander, they get them off the get them off the show. A bombshell needs to come in on a night that everybody's dressed. They need to have Ariana make the bombshell pick and then say, you are now single and you have 30 minutes to pack your bag off the island. Oh, they would have been in an uproar. Yeah, because that would shake up their mentality because they don't know what's gonna happen next and all this. Um, we're favored this and that wouldn't matter. Because I feel I fear they're getting formulaic and it's showing, and people are too set in their ways. Like the islanders feel as though they know the show, but they really don't. So we need something to really shake it up. Um, and I'm trying to think of what else happened during yeah. I think I don't know if we had the conversation about what Trinity says to Anaya about um that Casey won the keep soul. Yeah. So Casey was the only one fighting to keep soul, and Bryce, out of pure anger and spite, tells that to Trinity, knowing that she's gonna go ahead and tell Anaya. Now, you could tell Trinity didn't necessarily want to tell Anaya that, but she told her because that's her friend. That's her girl. Mm-hmm. And then Anaya's like, why are you trying to pick a girl to stay if nobody else wanted to explore her? And then she called her Captain Save a hoe, which the internet isn't 100% happy with. Now, I get what um she was saying. I don't think she was trying to call Soul a hoe or anything. But everybody knows that's slang words. Like, nobody doesn't think the girl is a hoe. She's like, Why are you trying to be Captain Save a hoe and save a bitch that nobody wants here? Yeah, I think it's how she was saying it. This is an issue with people who don't understand AAVE. Don't nobody think the girl is a hoe. When we say Captain Save a hoe, you out here doing doing extra shit just to to extend kindness where it's really isn't needed. And you can tell when AAVE is being used on a show and they cannot pick up that the girl is not calling her a hoe. She's just saying, You said you didn't want to explore her. Why are you trying to save her? Let her go home. Somebody has to go. And she would have probably said the same thing if it was Jen and be like, Why are you trying to be Captain Saberho and save Jen when she's already in a I don't know? I feel like she kind of was a little bit. I still think while I understand what you say, yeah, I think it was extra because it was soul. Like, I don't think she would have been that upset if it was Jen. She'd be like, oh well, you know, somebody had to go from go to back. I like that they've been back and forth with the subject for so long. We've we we've said it multiple times about different people. Like that you're trying to be Captain Savannah though. Yeah, I know that's A-A-B-E. Now, maybe how she used it was a little snarky, but to think that she's actually calling her a whole is crazy. No, that's why I was saying from my perspective, she had like animosity towards the situation because of the back and forth of KC. Like the whole actual phrase, I was like, uh, it does seem a little petty towards Soul just a little bit, but I also think it's just the frustration that she's having with KC not being honest. But then again, she isn't really leaving a safe space either because as soon as he does try to explore, Soul says this on After Sun that she's consistently pulling, uh breaking up their conversation. So it has to be more than After Sun. I didn't know she every time they boys are having conversation, they're not able to pull it. That's what Sol says. That's weird. Mm-hmm. So it's like, okay, I think you had a little bit of animosity towards Soul, and then also your partner for not being honest with you. So she has a right to be upset because a lot of people were saying, Why are you worried about the threat? She's gone. But it's like it's the principle of the matter that you're lying to me again and telling other people. And Casey's stupid for telling all these people his business. You gotta have one person you can trust. At this point, it's probably Caleb, because Anaya and Caleb are not on each other radar. But Bryce and Zach have been the singing like uh Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Every time bringing something up in a challenge to like kind of rattle Anaya in a way and like ruin their coupling and ruin the sale, but at the same time, Casey, you gotta be honest with your person as well. So you are to blame as well, in my opinion. But yeah, that's where we left off in that episode. Um, I don't think anything else really happened besides Caleb and Kada have been talking. He pulls her, and Zach is like, she's feeling that. Yeah. And it's even more so because in the challenge, Caleb picks Kada in the challenge, and and then Kada wraps her legs around Caleb. And then Zach says something about it when they're like he's talking to her right before Caleb comes to pull him. Mind you, this is the same Zach that said, Oh, if you want to pull Kada, you can. And now he's sweating to come out. Just a long conversation. Yeah, I don't 100% believe Kada's actually feeling Caleb. I think she likes the fact that um it's making Zach jealous and sweat a little bit because he's been a little too comfortable. So, but we will see um what happens in this next episode. We're supposed to be getting Casa tonight. I don't know if that's gonna be the beginning of the episode, middle, or end. Yeah, but we shall see. Yeah, so would Casey act up in Casa? Was Sincere brings another analogy? Would Corbin really be uh we really find out if Corbin is chat GBT? Will Bryce and Zach uh relationship bubs find out next time on POV? Goodbye, and also the fact that oh, I forgot to mention really quickly what afterson, because I'm the only one that watched it. Soul and Gabrielle were talking about things. They said before they left, both of them said to the Islanders they need to rethink, you know, how they're really approaching things. So they've continued that conversation on Aftersun, and uh Sol basically said she felt as though that Anaya and Melanie were threatened by the fact that their men wanted her and people were upset about that. They also she also said something about she feels like Zach finds Kater prettier than Trinity, which I even said I felt as though Bryce Bryce. Huh? It's Bryce. She said that about I said Bryce. You said Zach. No, I said Bryce. That Bryce said, No, she said Zach. I'm gonna listen to Zach. Well, whatever, I'm saying it now. That Bryce said, and if I did say Bryce, I'm bringing it back so you can hear. But anyways, um that that Bryce thinks that Kata is prettier than Trinity, and they left it very weird, like they cut it very weird because that was like the last question that um Teffy and Tierra asked her. So a lot of people were upset about that, but I also feel as though that wasn't really necessary to say. I think she could have said it in a different way. Like he has more interest in Kata than he does Trinity. She also said that if they were walking down the street, she knows for a fact they wouldn't look at each other and stuff like that. And I just feel like if you feel isolated from these people, I feel like I'm not speaking too much on them because you don't really know them. You're like observing, unless the senior is telling her a bunch of stuff and we just didn't see that, but you're observing from outside, looking in. These aren't people that confided in you at any point. So it's like, and for Bryce to be the one that pulled her to talk to her about her feelings, and she said that Trinity was like one of the girls that were nice to her, it just comes out a little strange. Also, I want to just put this out with the soul comp conversation. You said something very important where she's like, Oh, if these people walking down the street, they wouldn't know each other. Soul, the show is called Love Island. We are pairing people that necessarily wouldn't talk to each other with different well now, yeah, with different backgrounds, with different cultures, with um, with how they view the world, the certain topics that they're uncomfortable or comfortable with, and you're putting them in a in a high stress environment that they don't know, they don't have their family, they don't even have a book to write in, they don't have nothing but each other in that island. They're going to gravitate to people that aren't necessarily their type. Do you think Alandra would really stop to talk to Nick? Right. Maybe not in another life. So you just never know. And if it wasn't for the show, they they probably wouldn't gravitate to each other. Um and we see it multiple times with a lot of islanders where they wouldn't necessarily gravitate to that person in real life, but with the show, it'd be like, Well, you kind of are my couple. It shows that I actually date outside, and then there are people who get with their type on the couple. There's no guarantee that that even in the real world they wouldn't talk to each other in on the island, that is their real world, that is their form of reality. So to say that you kind of are basically saying the format of the show you don't believe in because we have seen plenty of couples off of Love Island get married and have kids. Right. Start families. So you just never know. I mean, I get where she's going, but I feel like when you're talking about it's for her talking about her own experience and just like going in as much as she wants to, I approve of that. When you're talking about other people, you have to keep it cue and be like, I just feel like he's more interested in Keda. So I think he's good. The question was about who's gonna explore who in Casa. Gabe said that he felt as though Bryce was in the Trinity, but he he was basically unheard because he wanted to see um and soul gave it to them. So I think you just gotta be like, uh, in my opinion, this is that. But she's not media trained yet, so I don't think she meant it like in a colorist way, the way I think it just came out wrong, the way that everyone's saying, and she even got on live or made a video and said, like, that's not how I'm I'm thinking of it. I think she called people racist. Yeah, yeah, to tell people like my mama black and my daddy black. Not because I'm light skinned doesn't mean anything. I have two black parents, so before y'all start that, I'm both my parents are black, which I didn't even know. I didn't know what her lineage is, but yeah, it just was she has been saying a lot, she's very emotional, and I think that's completely fine. She didn't have a good time on the island, and she really wasn't messing with nobody on that island except for like maybe two people. So people have to take that in consideration. They want people to be robots and be like, oh, just stop talking about it. It's like been like two days. You can stop now before. But yeah, at this point, I would just be silent. But now they have given you your platform, you said your two-piece, and then you just gotta leave it and then take it to the reunion and finish and stand on what you said then. You know, actually, I'm starting to think that girl that came out online with the long brown hair saying she's so best friend. I think they might be best friend because Sony ain't gonna live since her and that one girl. Literally, it just been going in. I mean, I'm still team soul and I'm on her side with like a lot of the things. Like, I think she got the shit and the stick in the situation. But at the end of the day, hopefully now she can move forward and just go on to what is next in life and not do any more lives about the violence or commentaries because then people will set you up because they want the exclusive and they don't care how you're perceived to the public, so you got to be careful with that.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:07

Absolutely agree.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:08

Yeah, and on that note, we shall end. And tonight we are gonna have Casa and we're gonna move on from that. Thank you guys so much for listening to week three. And I just want to say thank you to I am Sunny Ukraine. And I realize me and you have the I M thing, so let me spell that out. It's I M S U N N Y G-R-A-Y. Yeah, and it's Bridget as an I as an igluo, M as a Mary, D Delta for I M B Bridget, and Bridget is spelled B-R-I-E. I'll chat because I was I was making sure there was no D in there. Uh D E T T E. So there's no D in Bridget. The D is before the Bridget. So that's how you end up with I M D Bridget. She took the D out of Bridget and put it in there. You just confused my listeners. Y'all know where to find me. I'll do it over. It's I as in India, M as in Mary, D Delta, B as in boy, R as in Robert, I G E T T T E. I M D Bridget. If you guys don't listen in, God bless you because we'll have a bootleg ass ending. This is a long episode. These are just gonna be long. I've accepted that. We try, I tried my best to cut it down. I mean, we're trying to cover a full week of shenanigans, and even though nothing happens, people still, some things still happen. We gotta talk about it. So these are gonna be long. At least you can just sit back and drive your car and listen to our BS kind of podcast where I'm cooking type shit. Exactly. Just have this in the background. Thank you guys so much for listening, and we will see you next time. Bye.