Black Girls Do Politics: Trump, Tariff's, and The Tesla guy

In this episode of Black Girls Do Politics, we'll discuss the Trump administration's executive orders, the implications of tariffs and firings of federal workers on Black communities, and the influence of Elon Musk in government. Black Girls Do Politics! 

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Black Girls Do Politics (00:01.357)
Black Girls Do Politics, y'all. Alexis Buchanan-Thomas, your lovely host, here with my lovelier co-host, Summer Nettles. How you doing, Summer?

Summer (00:11.722)
And good.

Black Girls Do Politics (00:15.353)
I mean, you know, it's been a week, right? Like, I feel like every week we say that, I mean, we're what? Like, we're 24 days into this administration now. Yeah, it feels like 26 years. It's like we're aging in dog years. Presidential years are like dog years now. Is that what's happening? It's, it's, it's... No, apparently it's Elon Musk.

Summer (00:25.326)
We're not six years into this administration.

Summer (00:32.042)
dear. my God. Yeah. It's so bad. It's so bad. You mean Barron isn't our president now? Barron Trump's like, you can't. that's right. That's right. The co-president is the president now. Exactly. Yes, the dynasty.

Black Girls Do Politics (00:45.241)
Hahaha

Yes, apparently it is Elon Musk. So we've got a great show for y'all. You know, we are going to break down, you know, again, we're 24 days into this election, or election, please, 24 days into this administration, you know, we're trying to navigate through the constant, you know, stream of executive orders that are being issued daily. And so we thought that we would break down a couple of topics.

for our Black Girls Do Politics audience. We know it's so much coming at y'all. We know that every day you're getting blitzed with some other crazy executive order or news, you know.

Summer (01:28.778)
Absolutely. Yeah, and we have to say, that very clearly, and I'm not sure if we've said this, I can't remember if we said this on another, like an episode, but the executive orders are not legislation, they're not passed by Congress, they're not legitimate, right? The Department of Government Efficiency is not a department. It did not go through the co-equal branches of government. It was not voted on by the House.

Black Girls Do Politics (01:52.023)
No.

Summer (01:57.043)
and the Senate and then until it happens, it doesn't exist. Yeah. Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (02:01.432)
Yeah, I mean, we're going to get into that later in the show, but let's first start talking about tariffs. Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs. I know that folks have been hearing a lot of stuff about tariffs, right? And so I thought that like, you know, first off, like, let's talk about what tariffs really are, right? Now, during President Trump's presidential campaign,

Summer (02:09.25)
Mm, that's like.

Summer (02:22.563)
Go for it.

Black Girls Do Politics (02:26.744)
He pledged to impose universal tariffs of 10 to 60 % on all US imports. That would actually be a whopping $4.2 trillion in goods and services that were purchased from abroad in 2024. There's something called the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, and that gives the president broad authority to put tariffs on. And so Trump got in office, he's very quickly, he seemed to make good on the threat.

Summer (02:45.421)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (02:56.3)
He announced 25 % of tariffs on all goods from Mexico and all goods except energy goods from Canada, as well as 10 % of tariffs on all goods from China, though we actually delayed the Mexican and Canadian tariffs for one month. So this will be revisited again in early March. But these three countries combined account for over 40 % of goods imported to the United States.

Summer (03:18.168)
Right.

Black Girls Do Politics (03:25.496)
And so I think the question, like, and then yesterday, you know, he's talking about reciprocal tariffs, right? Which are different than universal tariffs, right? So universal tariffs, again, is a flat, you 25 % on all goods. And he's pledged to do this on all US imports, right? Reciprocal tariffs are basically like, we also pay tariffs on things that, you know, we send to other countries, right?

So for example, like India has like a 10 % tariff on stuff that like we send over, right? So now we're going to charge them the same 10 % tariff, right? So in essence, our tariffs are somewhat lower than some other countries. And so what Trump also wants to do is raise our tariffs up to the same amount that countries charge us from when we import goods to them.

Summer (03:58.562)
Mm-hmm.

Summer (04:07.244)
Yeah. Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (04:23.434)
And those are called reciprocal tariffs. And so, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Summer (04:28.59)
Oh, I mean, this is all, I guess this is like the reciprocal tariffs and the 25 % tariffs and then no tariffs from Canada and Mexico because they basically, I think the one tax Trump never had was a tax on that ass. Like you have never played the FAFO tariff, sir. And that's what happened.

Black Girls Do Politics (04:55.64)
No, never.

Summer (04:57.518)
with Canada and Mexico. And the only reason that you can continue in this vein with China is because they're not a close ally, but it is gonna be a find out tariff because so many people are ordering from Tmoo, right? And yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (05:16.556)
Well, so we already saw how that was somewhat affected, right? When he decided to like put the whole extra on goods that were shipped that were like less than 800. So right now in the United States, like if you're shipping something that's less than $800, you don't have to go through the extra embargoes, right? To receive that package. Will Trump try to change that? He actually said, if you do, if you're shipping something that's

Summer (05:19.97)
Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (05:43.673)
less than $800, it does have to go through the extra embargo, which actually adds an extra tax to it, and promptly got backlash on that and then rolled it back. And so I think also too, what's been really kind of, I think frustrating for people to keep up with the tariffs is because he puts on the tariffs and then like 24 hours later, he pulls them back, right? So it's like been constant whiplash, right?

Summer (05:49.101)
Yes.

Summer (06:04.344)
Welcome back.

Summer (06:08.758)
it is. don't think he actually knows what the tariffs impact when he puts them on there. Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (06:14.272)
I agree, but economists were saying that before he was elected. I mean, again, the terror thing is not something that he didn't run on. He ran on this, right? He said this is something that he was going to do and it is a campaign promise that he's definitely kept. But I think that, you know, people really haven't thought about how, again, it's gonna affect the average consumer and especially let's keep it 100 black communities, right? Like we're always the hardest affected by these things, to be honest, you know?

Summer (06:37.323)
Yeah.

Summer (06:41.486)
Yeah, we I mean, we are and also, just don't know, again, you know, like, I think he doesn't understand that aluminum is used in beer cans, right? Like, you won't really get I mean, if Kid Rock is shooting beer cans now, I don't know what he's going to do later. this is crazy. You know, when you talk about

Black Girls Do Politics (06:50.614)
that part.

Black Girls Do Politics (06:58.008)
Ha ha ha ha.

Summer (07:03.106)
When you talk about automakers and we talk about all the aluminum and all the steel that goes into cars and guns and computers, when you talk about, and for automakers specifically, if you increase a 25 % tariff, their margin of profit is so small that when you introduce a tariff, it eats away at their profit margins hugely. 25 %

Black Girls Do Politics (07:09.27)
Yes.

Summer (07:30.584)
could eat up almost the entire cost of a car. And so the only people that they have to pass on that tariff to is us, is the consumer.

Black Girls Do Politics (07:33.922)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (07:39.033)
It is. But also too, I think people like kind of take it for granted, right? So one thing that's interesting, even with these reciprocal terrorists, you know, so when you first hear about it, it makes sense, right? Like, yeah, well, damn, if they're charging us 10 % and we only charging them 2.5, we should be charging them 10%, right? But that, it's not a blanket thing. So for example, some countries only produce certain goods, right? So like, for example,

Summer (08:04.27)
That's right.

Black Girls Do Politics (08:07.5)
Trump's former commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, he recently mentioned to CNN that during Trump's first term, Australia was the only country producing green steel, which is a steel that's made without the use of fossil fuels. Because Australia is the only country produces it and American countries companies don't wanna make it due to technology constraints, there's no point to tariff it, right? But if Trump's rule goes into effect, right?

Summer (08:18.571)
Awesome.

Summer (08:28.203)
No.

Black Girls Do Politics (08:32.92)
Before the first Trump administration, they had an exception from steel tariffs. They were very deliberate. It's like looking at what countries and where it makes sense and where it didn't, and they granted exceptions. There's no exception in these new tariffs, right? So that means that we're still gonna pay a higher bill on this product, even though, because they won't exempt it. We'll be stuck paying 25 % more for it because there's no other place to get it. And so that's what I people to recognize, right? With tariffs,

Summer (08:45.485)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (09:00.972)
There's only a couple of ways around it's not going to affect American consumers, right? B, supply companies have to find cheaper places to get their goods. If they don't have those alternatives, they have no other option but to pass that cost on to the American consumer.

Summer (09:05.451)
Yes.

Summer (09:16.578)
mean, they could, in theory, absorb the cost themselves. They could be like, Okay, well, exactly like, it's not really realistic. mean, you could say, you know, we could, you know, it's not possible. We can throw it out there. But yeah, but you're right. But you're right about that. Internet, the International Trade Commission found that tariffs on steel and aluminum increased prices on average by 2.4%.

Black Girls Do Politics (09:21.206)
But we live in a capitalist America summer. I mean, really? I'm just saying. I mean, for real, girl. I mean, come on.

Summer (09:43.342)
And we were already seeing inflation has raised prices in our country by 3 % in January alone. So you can't really argue in favor of this and tell me my grocery store prices are gonna go down because they're not going down.

Black Girls Do Politics (09:50.647)
Right.

Black Girls Do Politics (10:01.08)
they're not going to go down. This is the thing people don't recognize. And I saw this one time, it was like a documentary or something. And they were like, we're going to take all the products out of your house that were actually not, or were not made in the United States. They were left with like one thing. They were sitting on like a bare room with like one thing. US companies don't say where all their raw materials or parts come from. So you have no idea what's going to get more expensive. Because a lot of companies don't say, so you might think, okay, I'm buying this US.

Well, yeah, maybe like the finished project product is all US. Right. But the pieces that made it came from other countries.

Summer (10:35.704)
Yeah.

Summer (10:39.98)
Absolutely. And then it's also really, feel like, I mean, there was a time when I was like on the JD Vans train, in the, in 2008, right? Like, yeah, it was a thousand years ago. mean, right. I guess I won't say the JD Vans train. was on the, should manufacture everything in the United States because if we do that, then

Black Girls Do Politics (10:52.729)
I'm about say, when was that girl? Because ooh, I was never on the JD Fans train. And I'm from Ohio. Sorry.

Summer (11:08.984)
people will all have jobs and we'll be able to hold on to manufacturing in our country. Now, all I want you to do as a consumer is go online and look up leggings and look up leggings from like Beyond Yoga, for example, right? Where like Beyond Yoga, all US made products, right? And see if those leggings, see if the yoga pants.

aren't $100. You tell me, you see, are, are the yoga pants are $100. And that's really detrimental to consumers and, and citizens and voters in the United States who don't want to pay $100 for yoga pants, or who

Black Girls Do Politics (11:41.644)
They are.

Black Girls Do Politics (11:58.393)
mean, let's give it 100. Americans don't want to pay $100 for anything. We don't. We are spoiled. But I feel like that's part of it, right? Like we're spoiled to getting things cheap. We're spoiled to having these things. But we don't necessarily recognize what it takes to get it there. And so we're quick to be like, OK, this blanket decision will just change it. But that's not. But so I mean, this is a good, you know, this is a good

Summer (12:02.018)
Really? Okay? Damn. We really don't. We don't.

Summer (12:22.252)
It's true, it's That's not... segue? Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (12:28.088)
Yeah, because you know what our next subject, you know, has to be. We've got to talk about Dodge.

Summer (12:33.623)
What?

doge.

Black Girls Do Politics (12:37.816)
I don't really give a... My bad y'all. Black girls do politics.

So we're back y'all to talk about Doge. Did I say it wrong again? Okay, because you know, I don't really, yeah.

Summer (12:53.262)
No, you got it. You got it. You almost said, what is it? What is the new thing that's going on? Like, Kober said, he calls them doge bags.

Black Girls Do Politics (13:04.984)
Oh, I like that. And said douchebags, dogebags. I like that. Because they are pretty douchey. Right? And we got to talk about this conference of this, this, we got to talk about like this Trump and Elon Musk in the White House. Like that, that, that conference that, and that, that, that news that seemed pretty douchey to me. Like I don't know a better way to say that.

Summer (13:06.382)
Like, don't you back it.

Summer (13:13.23)
feel like my juice had value. This does not have value.

Thank very much.

Summer (13:28.142)
Absolutely. Well, the other thing is, is that like, I think that right before the break, you made such a valid comment, which is like, we don't really understand that these blanket things, we don't understand that the price of what it takes to do a thing. like, right now, we don't really understand if you look at like, Elon being in the Oval Office, and then you look at him being at USAID, we don't

and as Americans, we take for granted the price of peace.

Black Girls Do Politics (14:00.812)
Yes, I agree. We really do take advantage. You, that is something you said, like that was really, really profound right there. And I hope like our listeners are really paying attention to that. We do as Americans take for granted the price of peace. It is true. And when you go to other countries, it's not as peaceful. really, you know, take for granted the fact that we don't have to worry about certain things here in America.

Summer (14:16.045)
Mm-hmm.

Summer (14:24.238)
I mean, if we had to dig a trench between ourselves and Canada to prevent Canada from invading, right? Like there are countries that have border countries in the world that are literally digging trenches and arming soldiers to prevent the other country from invading. When you look at Russia and Ukraine, that relationship wasn't friendly for years and that is expensive.

It's expensive with like soldiers is expensive with weaponry. You know, that's expensive. And when we think about the price of peace, we have to think about the price, the cost of war, right? Like, yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (15:09.612)
Well, let's talk about it. Let's talk about like, you this joint appearance and like where they're cutting at and how it could, it's definitely affecting all of our peace right now, right? It's affecting everyone's peace right now. So.

Summer (15:24.461)
Is my tax return paying for the dye job? cause this, I just need

Black Girls Do Politics (15:27.608)
Oh my gosh, this is insane. So, you know, Trump had this press conference with Elon Musk out of sight. They're talking about Doge's already resulted in discovery of billions and billions of dollars in waste and fraud and abuse. But they haven't offered like any real specifics on how they're arriving at those estimates.

There's not much transparency. mean, I know folks have been hearing about these junk folks having access. Last week it was the people like having access to the treasury payments. We know they are trying to shut down US aid, but Trump has dropped a new executive order about this, right? And so his executive order, it provides details on how government agencies will work with Doge to reduce the size of the federal workforce. It calls on the heads of federal agencies to promptly undertake

preparations to initiate large scale reductions in force. The order doesn't specify a range of how many workers will be affected and lose jobs. And then also sets out new guidelines about hiring. It said that agencies should hire no more than one employee for every four that leave.

Summer (16:23.532)
dumb.

Summer (16:38.36)
That's crazy.

Black Girls Do Politics (16:39.37)
And it also says that each agency have the heads have to consult with a Doge team lead around hiring approvals. Now these changes don't apply to military personnel. I will say that. And they do allow for exemptions for positions related to national security, homeland security, or public safety responsibilities.

Summer (16:47.64)
Okay.

Summer (17:00.064)
Let's think about what that means because Starlink and Tesla both get paid from the State Department and from the Department of Defense. And the Department of Defense is, think, it's either the third or the fourth largest funded department in the United States, right? So we're looking at all the other smaller departments that he keeps going to. This is like a bully just pushing up a frail child up against a wall, right?

Black Girls Do Politics (17:08.823)
Yes.

Summer (17:29.71)
You're pushing, but you're not going over into Mark Milley's Defense Department. Like you're not going over where your efforts are.

Black Girls Do Politics (17:36.953)
But let's just talk about all the conflicts of interest, because you just touched on something right there. So Elon Musk has multiple conflicts of interest across multiple agencies that he is very involved in. I mean, we could even talk about this horrific plane crash that happened two weeks ago, and how Elon Musk had just pushed Trump to fire the head of the FAA because they were pursuing

Summer (17:46.776)
Good for you.

Black Girls Do Politics (18:06.264)
Charges, not charges, but they were pursuing, not charges though. It wasn't exactly charges, an investigation about, yeah, because the star, like the SpaceX has not been safe, right? And we've all seen it, right? We've seen this, I've seen multiple SpaceX go up and blow up. I've seen at least two myself. Firstly, I watched at least two, right? So there's that, there's the government contracts that he has around Tesla. I mean, Elon's,

Summer (18:06.86)
Arches again.

Summer (18:11.094)
an investigation.

Summer (18:18.53)
No.

Summer (18:23.662)
have the satellites coming down. Right? Right? Some of them are old.

Black Girls Do Politics (18:34.612)
Musk has multiple conflicts of interest. One thing he did say yesterday during this press conference is that he refuses to similar to Trump. He refused to disclose his financial holdings. Right. And so this is someone who has a lot of access, you know, who has not been fully vetted. and I also think people should know about Elon Musk, his history and what he's also pushing against in South Africa. Right.

Summer (19:04.182)
Of course. Let's just like I agree with that. let's really quickly. Let's. Yesterday in the press conference, he did have to walk back that USAID spent 50 million dollars on condo for people in Gaza. OK, then he said, I might make some mistakes from time to time. You know, you are a mistake. You're a walking mistake. So first and foremost, he said that. Then he layered that on with Alexis to your point about transparency.

Black Girls Do Politics (19:04.439)
Right?

Summer (19:33.128)
We should expect a transparent government where people who make decisions are there because they were elected. And literally he is standing here saying this very thing. These people should be elected and they should be transparent. then not. I'm like, what is this?

Black Girls Do Politics (19:50.521)
But what also is, you know what's really interesting to me about him? Trump never lets anyone hold the spotlight, right? Two days ago, they asked Trump if he saw JD Vance as his successor, and he couldn't answer that question. And that man is his vice president, right? But Elon sat in that office and he basically ran that show. And Trump does not let anyone do that.

Summer (20:04.322)
He said no. Yeah, he literally was like no.

Summer (20:12.51)
might as well have had a cat and like you should have just stroked stroked a cat like like the evil villain like dr evil and like yeah

Black Girls Do Politics (20:19.18)
Yeah. So let's talk about evil villainous, right? In Elon Musk. Cause I want to talk about the South Africa piece. Cause this to me is some evil villainous, right? So, you know, for those of you who aren't familiar and, know, our audience varies that some of y'all may not be totally familiar with South, you know, Africa and apartheid and some of the effects in that. But I mean, again, apartheid is something that was just ended like, you know, in the eighties, nineties and

Summer (20:26.082)
Yes. so ridiculous.

Black Girls Do Politics (20:46.508)
there's still huge effects of black populations of that in South Africa. you know, they own something like, I think it was like 10 % or not even 10 % of the land in South Africa, even though it was all of their land, right? And so what they've actually done reparations in South Africa, right?

Summer (21:05.902)
Yeah, $3,500 a person for 1,900 victims of apartheid.

Black Girls Do Politics (21:10.632)
Yes, and then also to their doing land repatriation, right? repri... They're doing land repatriation, where they're actually giving... Yeah, edit that for me, please. But they are giving the land back to black folks who, again, were disenfranchised by this. Elon Musk is speaking out against it. Now, this is again, something that was...

Summer (21:20.236)
I'll replay it.

Summer (21:36.173)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (21:38.026)
A bill that was passed, again, went through South Africa's parliament, was agreed upon. Again, elected officials put this into place. And Elon Musk is pushing against it, saying it's disenfranchising white people.

Summer (21:51.447)
my God. Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (21:53.059)
So this is the man that I want people to recognize that is making these decisions about federal government. And so one thing I think is really important to even talk about is how like cutting the federal workforce is really going to affect black communities and honestly black generational wealth, right? Now, a lot of people don't know this, but like 18 % of the federal government workforce identifies as black.

Summer (22:13.229)
Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (22:22.166)
those figures are actually higher than the overall percentage of Americans in general. Like in general, the American population is 12 % black, but 18 % work in the federal government. Right? So we actually, you know, are a decent chunk of federal government workers. And think about that, right? We all, you know, know somebody, they got that good government job. I can't wait to get that good government job. This is someone who's targeting DEI.

So again, if we're 20 % of that workforce and he's eliminating huge swaps of it, I would be really curious to see, who's being getting eliminated, right? Because we know this is someone who is adamantly against DEI and diversity. But also too, with the blanket cuts that are happening, that means if he's cutting blanket, we know at least 20%, 18%, excuse me, or not, you know what I mean? If our folks are gonna be out of work, including the other 60%.

Summer (23:04.492)
Yeah.

Summer (23:17.656)
Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (23:19.424)
of folks who can't afford and don't know where their next, you know, employment offer is going to come.

Summer (23:21.922)
mean, I would say probably a good portion and we'd have to delve deeper into this, but like a good portion of black and brown folks who are in the federal, you know, like universe are military. And so those folks probably aren't experiencing this at the same rate. Like, you know, like, like, like my dad and other folks who, you know, retired from the military, but I would also say that like, in

The issue with all of this, the issue with every part of it, the through line with everything that he does, everything that Trump does is that there is no domino. There's no domino effect. They never look ahead. you decide to blanket cut. Colorado, for instance, my state has the second highest number of federal workers in the country. We have 40,000 federal workers here. You decide unilaterally to lay people off.

those people still have recourse in as much as the new federal government are putting them on sabbatical. You're telling them the Congress has already allocated the funds. So first and foremost, you're stealing money from me, the taxpayer, because Congress. Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (24:36.152)
I agree. Because the elected official that I elected agreed to those funds, right? The person that I voted for agreed to that. And I know they'll say, well, know, Trump's in office, people voted for him, that supersedes that. That is not how America works. And I just want people to be clear, like, that's not how America works. America is a democracy because it's held by three branches of government. And like the one doesn't, and the reason it's set up that way, it's to eliminate some of these conflicted interests, right?

Summer (24:50.498)
No.

Summer (24:58.424)
Yeah, co-equal.

Summer (25:04.182)
Right. It's not even just to eliminate. I mean, it's not to eliminate some of them. Right. Exactly. This better never come up. OK. mean, Joe Biden would have loved to just issue an executive order for student loan debt. He could not. He was overruled by federal courts. And because federal court said it was unconstitutional for him to issue that blanket executive order,

Black Girls Do Politics (25:08.056)
Prevent them, it's to prevent them. Right. Exactly.

Black Girls Do Politics (25:21.824)
He couldn't do it exactly. He could not do it.

Summer (25:32.738)
He had to rescind it. Now he had already given forgiveness to a certain number of people under that EO and it had gotten so far as far as it could. But if he had chosen to disrespect the federal court, then we would have had a constitutional crisis.

Black Girls Do Politics (25:51.767)
And we're seeing what's happening now, right? I mean, many of these things, the USAID was stopped by a federal judge, the job, the layoffs have been in the offers of early retirement have been stopped by federal judges. So we're starting to see that now. I think the bigger worry is that, like how far it gets, because I want people to remember the Supreme Court has been stacked heavily in Trump's favor, right?

Summer (25:59.875)
Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (26:19.844)
During Trump's first administration, he was able to put three Supreme Court judges on the bench. Right? And so this will be something to watch and see as it makes its way through the federal courts. I will say this though, right? I mean, can we stall like on these, some of these cases, like Trump was able to stall out all his cases until like the election was over with?

Like, we, you know, is there a way to, cause I remember every single case that he got to communicate, he was able to stall it out until he got reelected, right? Can we not stall out some of these executive orders like through the courts until he's out of office and then it's not even an issue anymore? Like I, I'm going to encourage, you know, Congress to think about alternative tactics. I mean, what is Congress doing that about this? Let's, let's, let's play a clip.

Summer (26:59.637)
Thank you.

Black Girls Do Politics (27:39.224)
So, you know, they're doing some stuff, but I don't know if it's really enough.

Summer (27:47.224)
think I would say to me, I think that what the Democrats are doing is admirable. And it's so good. And I don't think we're giving them a well, okay. No, you know, let me walk it back. You're right. Alexis. No, they're not doing enough. They're you're they're right. You're right about that. Hakeem Jeffries. I love you, bro. What the hell? What are you doing?

Black Girls Do Politics (28:06.498)
Where is Hakeem? Like, I need Hakeem. Like, I don't need Hakeem, Jeffreys. I need Hakeem. Like, where is Hakeem? Yes.

Summer (28:13.358)
Okay, where is Hakeem? What is this? You're mad. There have been reports of closed door meetings that Democrats are meeting and they're upset that constituents are calling because organizations like Indivisible have told constituents to keep calling to keep up the pressure. The problem is, is of course we have to keep up the pressure. You must demonstrate to us consistently that you're not going.

Black Girls Do Politics (28:30.496)
Yes.

Summer (28:37.678)
to go for the okie doke. And when some of you Democrats stand up in front of the public and you're and we're talking about the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau and folks are asking you point blank, will you withhold your vote on the budget in March on March 14th until they say per the request to get Elon out of and Doge out of government, right? Will you willingly?

withhold your vote until they reinstate completely the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau reinstate completely US aid and and really honor the judgment to unfreeze all these funds right like will you withhold your vote and some Democrats are like I can't answer that right now what well are you you can't answer like that's crazy to me that's

Black Girls Do Politics (29:28.63)
Right.

Black Girls Do Politics (29:34.009)
There's a fear though with, don't know, like there's a huge fear and I do understand it to some degree, but like with Democrats, like you weren't elected by Trump, right? So like, why do even care? You know I mean? Like the people that elected you, come on, this is what we put you in office for. But I also feel like we, like enough. You know, so much of this happened during the first four years.

Summer (29:50.754)
Yeah. Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (29:59.809)
of Trump's first administration, right? I mean, Trump never should have even gotten as many Supreme Court picks that he got. The Republicans didn't allow it from Barack. You know, Barack was like, they were like, best believe Barack is not gonna have another pick before he leave his office.

Summer (30:01.325)
Right?

Summer (30:09.303)
No, they sure didn't.

Summer (30:14.252)
You cannot appoint a judge in a lame duck session, Mitch McConnell. Is that what you said, Mitch? Is that what you said?

Black Girls Do Politics (30:20.344)
That's what he said, but like we don't stand as strong. And I think that's also part of the reason why like some people are actually drawn to Trump. Like I was reading something about that. They were saying that like people are drawn to him because like he don't give no, you know what I mean? He gives zero and he stands with that and people like that. Like they respect that, right? And I feel like there's like a loss of some respect because they do seem kind of spineless to some degree.

Summer (30:29.134)
Hmm

Summer (30:34.497)
Yeah, zero.

That's a girl.

Black Girls Do Politics (30:50.218)
I mean, come on, like, this is what we need right now. I mean, the bullhorn is too loud. And I think to your point, it's everyone's piece is literally in jeopardy right now. And it's not even just here in America, abroad.

Summer (30:58.604)
Yeah.

Summer (31:05.737)
Abroad, abroad as well. When you start talking about people with medical devices, I'm sure you've heard, because USAID can't take them out. And let's be very clear, right? This is something I've talked about on my socials. When we start talking about organizations like USAID, we're talking about the prevention of things like Ebola reaching America's shores, okay? Ebola, malaria, Marburgs.

Black Girls Do Politics (31:32.088)
Hmm?

Summer (31:35.488)
And if you don't understand the ramifications of Ebola, you should Google someone dying of Ebola and see if you don't see blood pouring out of the person because it's

Black Girls Do Politics (31:35.736)
Mm-hmm.

Black Girls Do Politics (31:46.573)
just go watch the movie Outbreak and know that you don't want that to happen. Like just go do that. Just go watch the little monkey that was so adorable that got to the United States and it like, yeah, exactly. Just do that. But also too, you ain't even gotta do that. Like think to like four years ago when we had a pandemic and I don't wanna hear about they Biden vaccine and I don't wanna hear about we knew it got made in a lab in China. All of that may be true, right? I'm not disputing any of that.

Summer (31:49.142)
Okay. Exactly.

Summer (31:59.543)
Come on!

Pro-

Black Girls Do Politics (32:14.444)
I don't want to ever give any misinformation. so unless I can provide you accurate information, I'm not going to lean one way or the other. But what I do know is that none of us want to go through that again. I do know that. I do know that. Right? That's what I do know. I do know no one wants to do that again. Right? And I do know that these things are put in place so like that happens. Right?

Summer (32:24.162)
Right? Okay, but it's all good.

Summer (32:29.678)
That's what I do now.

Summer (32:36.18)
Exactly.

Black Girls Do Politics (32:37.374)
And so like that's the part to me that's scary. I know like so for example, my son was thinking about like the Air Force, you know, he was like, you know, and he's and something he's talked about like for years since he was a little kid and I was like, yeah, you know, let's let's see how this election plays out. And he's like, there's no way now. Like he's like, you know, there's there's no absolute way that I would even feel safe joining the military right now because this man has said on multiple occasions, I have no problem sending troops.

Summer (32:55.042)
Mm-mm.

Black Girls Do Politics (33:07.138)
to Israel. I have no problems using troops for a multitude of things. And so, and this is what I will say about like this USA aid conversation, the tariffs conversation, even the Dodge conversation. I am open to further investigating like where government spending is at, right? I think that's something that's

Summer (33:14.349)
Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (33:33.185)
like not unreasonable. And I think that's something we should do. Right. But for example, like if, if me as a consultant, if I go into a new business to analyze them, right, I don't just say, okay, you want me to analyze this? Well, it's completely bad. I'm ripping it all the way out. First of all, look at anything. And then I'm just going to decide on what I'm gonna do with it. No, you have to first analyze the problem and then decide, okay, you know what? This place over here is spending too much money. I'm going to cut here.

Summer (33:51.757)
right.

Summer (33:56.781)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (34:02.882)
but I'm only gonna cut this much, because if I cut this much, it's gonna actually affect the quality of what we need, right? And I feel like that's the part that's not happening. Things are being cut in a way that's very, it feels political and honestly personal to some degree. Like it feels like I'm gonna cut everything that I think might stand against me as a white man moving forward.

whether that's like DEI or whatever my business plans are and these agencies are interfering with the business plans that I have with Tesla or these agencies are interfering with the business plans I have with Space Link and SpaceX. Like that's, it feels like that. I feel like if they were more transparent, people might be more not so up in arms about

Summer (34:40.568)
Yeah. Well, and like,

Summer (34:47.854)
I mean, there is that piece and I totally agree with you. I mean, I'm I'm unapologetic about it though. Like when the police come in without a warrant and they get evidence, that's called fruit of the poison tree. You are not allowed to enter that piece of evidence into the record. Period. End of story. Why? Because you did it illegally. End of story. The officers who serve my community understand it. God damn it. Elon Musk understands it. Okay.

That's how that goes, period, end of story. I'm not gonna willy-nilly and say I'm okay with it. I actually did a documentary about integrating efficiency into our local government here in Denver. And we followed a piece of paper through an organization, through our human services department. So we followed the...

the application from the time it was completed all the way until the time the checks were issued, the checks were cut in order to see where the inefficiencies were. And the end goal was, it wasn't arbitrarily to cut spending, the end goal was to make sure that when people decided to enroll in Medicare and Medicaid, that they got medical attention soon. That was the

Black Girls Do Politics (36:10.348)
Right.

Summer (36:11.726)
point. The point was the people, not the dollars. like that, that's my first...

Black Girls Do Politics (36:15.348)
Yes. So you know what? You're making a super valid point with that, right? Because you're right, right? Like the approach and when you think about it, yeah, this will be their approach because you've got two businessmen, right? You've got Elon Musk and you've got Trump and their main goal is to make a profit, right? Like that's their businessmen and like that's always going to be their main goal. And so they're not thinking about, OK, how can I better serve the people? They're thinking about because that's another thing, too. OK, you're cutting all this money in government, but where is it going to go?

Summer (36:39.682)
And that's not the function of government.

Black Girls Do Politics (36:44.896)
Right? Like I'd be so for this, like, yes, I'm cutting money in government, but I'm going to actually invest more in this. That's going to help people more. Right. But you're not saying that you're just saying I'm going to cut in government. And when for me, which is really interesting is that there was a huge uproar around defund the police. Right. There was a huge uproar when it was about cutting money from police departments and putting that money in communities.

Summer (36:55.15)
Move it.

Black Girls Do Politics (37:08.662)
It was a huge uproar when people were saying, okay, how is this government money that our taxpayer dollars are funding? How is it getting, you know, spent to better our communities? There was a big uproar about defunding the police. That defunding the police turned into a whole negative thing that Democrats could not even touch with a 10 foot pole.

Summer (37:08.696)
You

Summer (37:13.39)
tomorrow.

Summer (37:21.347)
Yeah.

Summer (37:28.163)
No, now it's a whole shield for the Aryan nation.

Black Girls Do Politics (37:30.656)
It's a whole shield now for the Aryan nation. Yeah.

Summer (37:33.686)
It's a whole shield. like, mean, we'll say that that's fire because right, because like you we couldn't do that. But what we can do is make sure you don't have access to Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, money for homelessness. And the other side of the coin here is unfortunately for good or ill. Like there are so many parts of this that they're not looking at. But when you decide to demonize diversity, equity and inclusion for which

Pete Hegseth was booed by the way recently in Germany when he landed on a US military big.

Black Girls Do Politics (38:06.328)
As he should be. We should just boo that man in general whenever you see. He's one of those on-site. Boo. Just on-site. Just on-site. Like, on-site. Boo.

Summer (38:14.51)
On site, on site, on site, on site. But the other thing is, is if I am, if I am on the field of war with someone who hates me because I am black, brown, trans, LGBTQ, how long is it before someone accidentally gets shot in the back?

Black Girls Do Politics (38:36.064)
You know, I've thought the same thing, right? And I mean, again, we saw it. The unfortunate thing is that Black Americans who fought in the military have experienced this from the beginning of time, right? We saw it in the Civil War where, yeah, thanks for fighting us, know, fighting against slavery and, you know, supporting the North. But now, you know, go back to Jim Crow laws. We saw it in the 40s. I'm serious. We saw it in the 40s when they, you Black Americans fought in World War II and some of them decided to stay overseas because they were treated better in France and Italy than they were in the United States.

Summer (38:45.58)
Yeah.

Summer (38:55.022)
Nice!

Summer (39:00.823)
Yes!

Black Girls Do Politics (39:05.292)
We saw it with black soldiers coming back from Vietnam, right? So it's something that's continually happened. I really wanna end this conversation with talking about what we can do next, right? Like what can we do next? Like where can we go? What can we do next?

Summer (39:08.482)
Yes!

You can't fight!

Summer (39:16.704)
Yeah. Well, wait a minute. really quickly. Let me just say, let me just say, you could not put my little brother or sister in a barracks with someone who I think is going to murder them. So you already again, and I know we've discussed this on prior episodes, but if your military enrollment is already down by more than 50%, you can get, better get your last goddamn dollar that it won't be my child. It won't be my relative. It won't be my

Black Girls Do Politics (39:28.727)
Right.

Summer (39:45.454)
So the way we have and like Puerto Rico has a disproportionate number of Puerto Ricans who have served in the United States military. You might bet you say I'm Spanish. Do you understand? No is the same in English as it is in Spanish. Papi, like, let me just tell you, it's going to be it's going to be a no for us. OK, get out of here. Anyway. OK, positive notes. What can we do?

Black Girls Do Politics (39:59.767)
Yes, for that, for that.

Black Girls Do Politics (40:07.672)
Positive notes, black girls do polysix, y'all.

Black Girls Do Politics (40:14.904)
All right, positive notes. Okay, I feel like we've got it. We've talked about a lot of things that are really having, weighing heavily on us this week, right? I feel like it was a tough week. It's been a tough life and life in living here in America, being a black person. I just feel like this podcast, this episode definitely reflects that. But let's talk about a little bit of black joy, right? Before we end this episode. So for me, my black joy this week,

Summer (40:22.798)
That's what I'm saying.

Black Girls Do Politics (40:43.564)
was the Kendrick Lamar Super Bowl performance.

Summer (40:49.198)
Hmm

Black Girls Do Politics (40:49.344)
Yes. Yes. Honey, yes. All the yeses, all the feels. I mean, all the black symbol, like the black power symbolism. Uncle Sam, Sam Jackson as Uncle Sam. I mean, the American flag built by black people. Serena Williams, Crip Walkin'. I mean, just let's,

Summer (40:53.88)
Yeah.

Summer (41:03.104)
Yes.

Summer (41:09.783)
Yeah.

Yes, it was fantastic.

Black Girls Do Politics (41:17.506)
know a lot of people, like some people, know, he did get some negative feedback from it. I feel like it's people who went way over their heads, right? But also spoke to like how we're not here to just entertain you all the time, right?

Summer (41:24.256)
Yeah. totally.

Summer (41:31.436)
yeah. No, I mean, you don't think honestly, like the meritocracy, the meritocracy is totally a fallacy. It's not real. The idea that you would, you're sitting here talking about ignoring federal judges who were appointed under Bush. and then at the same time, you have no government experience and we're going to talk about meritocracy. That's ridiculous, but

as we watched that opening salvo with a PlayStation controller built by lights and the sequence that the PlayStation controller is giving you is infinite life and infinite power in Grand Theft Auto. And then he said, the scripture!

Black Girls Do Politics (42:08.204)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (42:14.12)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (42:21.174)
And then the squid games, like, my, I mean, I'm just saying like so much. And what I love about just Kendrick Lamar in general, I've always loved about him is like, he's a true creative artist. he, you know, people want to say Kanye was a creative genius. He was until he lost his mind, I know. But I'm just saying like, but Kendrick Lamar is that in a more powerful way to me than Kanye was, you know.

Summer (42:36.642)
He was, and he lost his mind.

Summer (42:47.916)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (42:50.936)
And it's not as recognized, right? And if anything, he's more sometimes like, like I know the NFL was like, damn, we should never invite this to the damn Superbowl. They were like, damn it. We just wanted you to come out and do things. It's not like us and dance around the stage. Like you wasn't supposed to have all the symbolism and black power stuff. Like what?

Summer (43:01.031)
no. I am sure they won't. No.

Summer (43:09.612)
Yeah. No. Well, we have to, you know, and it's like everything is such a it's such a double edged sword because, you know, Jay Z and rock nation control the halftime show. And so what we know then is that like, like here is, you know, you're rocking with Cowboy Carter over here, your level of commitment, your level of understanding the level of

Black Girls Do Politics (43:32.376)
Right.

Summer (43:39.052)
change that and an elevation that's happened because the Super Bowl halftime show wasn't didn't used to be, know, Michael Jackson elevated it in 1993. And that's when we saw the change that we saw in the Super Bowl again, because because it's not the we're not the mediocre ones in this meritocracy. Okay. Like you're the DEI is because we were like, DEY, like, why do you have this job?

Black Girls Do Politics (43:50.081)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (44:04.056)
You know, I saw like the funniest meme that was like, so true to me, right? It was on threads and someone, you know, of course it was a non, you know, person of color. And they were like, you know, how come it was so many, all the dancers were black? You know, they couldn't hire any white dancers for the halftime show. And someone responded and said, well, sorry, all the dancers danced better.

Summer (44:17.592)
Mmm.

Black Girls Do Politics (44:31.83)
So it was based on merit, not on DEI. Sorry, all the black dancers dance better. I was like, yes. Like you guys love to prod out DEI when it's not y'all, like when you guys are not at the forefront. And then let's also talk about the Super Bowl halftime show in general, right? Because I think it's not, it's not missed on me, like the super, I watch football, I'm a huge football fan. That being said, I'm just a sports fan in general, but that being,

Summer (44:41.068)
the dance retocracy.

Summer (44:45.666)
That's Great.

Black Girls Do Politics (45:00.984)
said like, this is a sport that's definitely, you know, white America loves, but they love a black halftime show. Like, let's keep it 100. I was trying to think as you were talking, like, when's the last time we've had a white artist headline the Super Bowl halftime show? At least not the last four, because like the last what four or five were like, what Usher, Rihanna, Dr. Dre, Eminem, guess, joined Dr. Dre, but like who before that?

Summer (45:23.17)
Yeah. Yeah.

Summer (45:28.45)
Right. I mean, and also look at the.

Black Girls Do Politics (45:29.88)
Jennifer Lopez and Shakira, I remember them. Who, like when's the last time we had a white artist headline this at the bull show?

Summer (45:32.578)
Mm-hmm.

Summer (45:36.846)
I don't know. have to Google. Oh, I'm not. I'm trying to use Google right now because they're not celebrating celebrating our stuff. But I have to look it up because I can't I can't.

Black Girls Do Politics (45:46.041)
And yeah, we'll have to look that up. But yeah, I mean, again, I think, and that's why I actually kind of appreciate Kendrick Lamar's halftime show and all of the imagery and the messages, the messaging and the symbolism, because again, we're not just entertainment for y'all, you know? And you guys have gotten really, you know, accustomed to that. Y'all have gotten real accustomed to, okay, we're gonna watch this football game in a halftime.

Summer (46:00.205)
Yeah.

Summer (46:03.521)
No.

Black Girls Do Politics (46:14.06)
These black folks finna come out here and give us a show.

Summer (46:16.3)
And then, but also we have to be really honest about the reality that is you want to keep us out because you know, we're better. Okay. Like, that, happens all the time. Look at the fact that we didn't have, we didn't have quarterbacks, right. And now we had, now we've had multiple super bowls where both quarterbacks are people of color. Right. You know, I mean, when you think about even in baseball and you think about how Hank Aaron was kept out of

Black Girls Do Politics (46:31.383)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (46:37.25)
where both corners were black. Yep, that's true.

Summer (46:45.902)
the National League and he had to play in the Negro Leagues, right? Like we were kept out. And then when he got in, who does he he out? He out does Babe Ruth, right? Like you're not keeping us out because we're not better, sweetheart. You're keeping us out because we're the fucking best. Sorry.

Black Girls Do Politics (46:56.472)
Right.

Black Girls Do Politics (47:03.832)
Yes.

Yes, but that is true. When you're speaking about the Mooney rule and just like black coaches, right? And you know, I'm a huge Ohio State fan. And so it was a really tough national championship game because of course I'm going always root for Ohio State, IO all day. But we were playing against a black coach. And so I was like, I want to root for you. I generally do. It's just not your time, son. Like not this, not this season, not this, not this national championship. But that being said, at least he has the opportunity.

Summer (47:20.93)
Mm-hmm.

Black Girls Do Politics (47:37.386)
I mean, you know, again, that was a shining moment for me. Do you have a shining moment of, of, of black joy this week, summer?

Summer (47:45.518)
my gosh. Oh my gosh. I mean, I'm with you on Kendrick, I guess. My shining moment of black joy is the idea of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany Mahomes after the game. Like, what was it like Brittany? Baby, baby, what girl? What was it like for you? What did you think? What did you what happened, girl?

Black Girls Do Politics (48:11.902)
All that riding for MAGA didn't mean nothing. And Trump, was the first, cause you know if they had won, like Trump would have, yes, you know, the chief supported MAGA. It's the first time a president's even come to a Super Bowl game. So like, you know, he was waiting for Kansas City to win so he could just like jump on the hole. Like they wrote it for MAGA train, right? And then he like, but then he threw it in Taylor Smith's face.

Summer (48:14.222)
Not a damn thing.

Summer (48:21.292)
Okay.

Summer (48:24.822)
And that was a, that's horrendous. so.

Exactly.

Black Girls Do Politics (48:39.284)
Like you endorsed Kamala, how does feel Taylor Swift to be a loser? Like he couldn't wait.

Summer (48:39.31)
Yeah.

Summer (48:44.422)
Whatever. Like you're so desperate, Donald. Donny DeLulu, desperate DeLulu, you know, and you're I mean, this man is an embarrassment to Republicans. But I think that it is a sad, sad thing because there are two to just looking back to politicize federal departments is a is a mistake. The federal government is a nonpartisan, just like this show.

And we deserve a government that will work to serve us all. having two parties has done us a disservice because it's made things too clear and too unclear at the same time. But the one thing I know was uncomfortable was Brittany Mahomes. And that is my Black Joy for the Week.

Black Girls Do Politics (49:14.36)
Thanks

Black Girls Do Politics (49:38.221)
That is her black joy for the week. Black girls do politics, y'all. Well, you know, we've got to end out with our black girl politic segment this week. I mean, first off, it's Black History Month, y'all. And even though they're trying to... First off, we only got the shortest month of the year, but they're trying to take that from us. We still are going to honor and recognize, you know,

Summer (50:00.75)
Mm.

Black Girls Do Politics (50:05.176)
Black history, but also every segment we try to, we haven't been able to do this in a while, but we try to recognize a black girl politic. And this is someone who is either current or previously making their way through the world of politics, holding it down for women of color. And I was in New York over the weekend with our media partner, MefEater. They had a show for New York Fashion Week. And I walk packed a mural of this woman.

And then ironically, two weeks ago, I doing a team building event for my job and we were solving puzzles and one of the puzzles was this woman. And so it was really, she's always been a huge inspiration to me. And it was really, really kind of on my spirit because it just kept popping up in my space that I wanted to talk about Shirley Anita Chisholm today. So Shirley Anita Chisholm, that is our black girl politic and she was an American politician.

who in 1968 became the first black woman to be elected to the United States Congress. She represented New York's 12th congressional district for seven terms from 1969 to 1983. And in 1972, she became the first black candidate to run for a major party nomination for the president of the United States, as well as the first woman to run for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. Throughout her career, she's been known for taking a resolute stand against

economic, social, and political injustice, as well as being a strong supporter of black, civil, and women's rights. And again, she was a director of a nursery. She started off kind of working out in childcare, and then she became an education consultant, and then finally entered the world of politics, where she joined Wesley Mack Holder's effort to elect to the bench the first black

judge in Brooklyn. She worked as a volunteer for white dominated political clubs in Brooklyn, like the Brooklyn Democratic Club and the League of Women Voters, helping push forward Black agendas. And again, she was the first woman, period, to run for president. And so we want to definitely give honor to Ms. Shirley Chisholm.

Black Girls Do Politics (52:27.672)
After she left Congress in 1983, she made her home in Williamsville, New York. She wanted to resume her career in education, and she actually hoped to be named a college president, which I still hope happens actually for her someday. She tried, well, I'm sorry, I hope that she gets a college name after her someday, because she wasn't, of course, didn't live long enough to become a college president. And actually,

Summer (52:49.73)
Yeah, so famously.

Black Girls Do Politics (52:52.586)
She tried she tried to become president of meager efforts college in brooklyn or city college of new york But past political opponents were influential in the selection process and they wouldn't give her either post So she was actually blocked and then she also made a move to become the new york city schools chancellor And she was blocked by the teacher unions head and a longtime foe and so she ended up withdrawing her you know her consideration for that position but yes, she continued to be involved politically.

Summer (53:02.926)
Mmm.

Summer (53:16.086)
And it is you. Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (53:21.384)
After she retired, she visited college campuses. She traveled to visit different minority groups and urged them to become strong forces at the local level. She campaigned for Jesse Jackson during his political campaigns. And then in 1990, she also formed the African-American Women for Reproductive Freedom. And so her entire life, she spent advocating for black communities and for women. And so we just want to honor Ms. Shirley.

Summer (53:49.806)
In the face of incredible odds. Ashe ashe ashe. Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (53:50.666)
Chisholm today. Ashe, ashe, ashe.

Black Girls Do Politics (53:57.037)
Yes. One of my favorites. She's one of my inspirations. And so, you know, just part of the reason why I'm so involved in politics, but also wanting to do this show is just the following and the legacy of her and others like her. And so, Chisholm, Black Girl Politic.

Black girls do politics, y'all.

Well, Summer, this has been a super... I've enjoyed the show, right?

Summer (54:28.526)
I hope people were inspired and fired up.

Black Girls Do Politics (54:34.296)
hope people are inspired. hope people feel more educated coming out, like they have a better understanding of some of the things we talked about. And I hope people like know what to do. Now, again, continue to follow us on our social media platforms. Definitely go to our website. We'll be posting here in the next week or so. We want y'all like to go advocate. for, again, it's for whatever you believe, right? We're nonpartisan. So if you think that DOJ is doing a great job, kudos to you. And if you want to...

Go call your congressman about that, right? And if you think you're doing a horrible job, go call your congressman about that. Just make sure you educate yourself and you get engaged and you advocate for you and your community in some

Summer (55:13.358)
Absolutely, there's a great new app, it's called Five Calls. And the app will let you put in your name and then your zip code, and it'll generate all of the folks who represent you on the federal level. And then it'll also show you a list of various bills or executive orders that you may or may not support. And please do remember that just because

you have the same team jersey, you're allowed to say, don't agree. You're allowed to be a Republican who says, I don't agree with Elon Musk being here. You're allowed, like Alexis mentioned earlier, to hold Democrats accountable as we talked about. But the thing you're not allowed to do right now is let our democracy degenerate into oligarchy. That's what you're not allowed to do.

Black Girls Do Politics (55:47.136)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (55:51.81)
Yes.

Black Girls Do Politics (56:04.812)
I agree. Please, everyone cannot sit on their hands right now. Like now is the time for you to get involved in whatever way that works for you, right? Whether, okay, I don't feel necessarily comfortable to go into a protest, but I do feel okay with sending an email. That's fine. Do that, right? I don't feel comfortable with sending an email, but I'm gonna call. Do that. That's fine. But just make sure you get involved in some way and you educate yourself and you advocate yourself.

Summer (56:13.549)
Yeah.

Black Girls Do Politics (56:31.264)
advocate for yourself and Black Girls Do Politics will be here all the way working with y'all. Black Girls Do Politics, y'all.

Summer (56:37.45)
Absolutely.

Summer (56:44.598)
Awesome!