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This show aired on June 11, 2017. It was hosted by David Enevoldsen. Robert Gruler of R & R Law Group appeared as a guest on the show. David and Robert discussed the idea of a family law being good people at their worst and criminal law being at their best, the different burdens of proof in family court and criminal court, the use of facts established at different burdens of proof, the importance of having criminal and family attorneys communicating, and the fifth amendment implications in family and criminal court.