She’s Impulsive Podcast
She’s Impulsive is your go-to podcast for exploring those spur-of-the-moment choices we all make, from financially questionable “business ventures” to ego-bruising dating decisions. Claudia and Jordyn are here to share and dissect their own misadventures as well as those of others, and celebrate the chaos that comes with living in your twenty-thirty-fourty-somethings (it’s all a blur after 21 let’s be honest).
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She’s Impulsive Podcast
How to: lose all your money in 6 business ventures or less
Nobody’s safe this week. Claudia’s bringing up her past financial trauma, Jordyn’s got 30 years’ worth of Instagram evidence outing her dirty (or in some instances, very clean) little secret, and Lindsay Lohan is finally getting the press she deserves for the reality TV gold that is Mykonos Beach Club.
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Some people identify as she, her, others they them. If you find yourself identifying as reckless, impulsive, prone to making poor life decisions, then this is the podcast for you. Welcome to the fourth episode of she's Impulsive, the podcast where we normalize impulsive decisions, one train wreck of a story at a time. I'm Claudia I like to refer to financially crippling myself as an entrepreneurial spirit. And I'm Jordan. I have a knack for turning spontaneous thoughts into not so great business ideas. Jordan, how was your week this week? Hold on, I'm just going to pull up my notes so I can remember how my week was. Please be a bit more professional. I'm trying. I'm fucking with you. Okay, so I actually started Pickleball this week.
Speaker 1:Do you know who used to play Pickleball quite a lot? Who? Randall, what's-his-face from Vanderpump Rules? Oh yeah, it is a predominantly American, canadian Male sport. Oh no. Anyway, I've been to one session and it's now my entire personality.
Speaker 1:I want pickable everything. The other night I was shopping for pickable ornaments. I'm obsessed. I didn't Sorry. What is a pickable ornament? It's just a Christmas ornament that's pickable themed. Obviously Can't believe you didn't know that. Sorry. It's just a Christmas ornament that's pickleball themed. Obviously Can't believe you didn't know that, sorry, it's incredibly obvious. Why is it called pickleball? And what is a pickleball, claudia? I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 1:How was your week, claudia? My week was good. I impossibly ordered an outfit for a themed hens do. I've told you already this is for the Barbie themed one. I made the stupid mistake I say stupid mistake, but I think I've made this mistake like at least 15 times now in my life of ordering it the night before I need to leave, to leave and then thinking that it's the fault of Australia Post for not delivering the goods to me within 24 to 48 minutes. Classic.
Speaker 1:So I now have. I might like put photos somewhere or something, but I've basically got half a doily as a skirt, half a doily as a skirt. I have my mom's dress, which looks like it would be appropriate for a day at the races, as opposed to a Barbie themed hen do. And I have, I mean, the pink cowboy hat is all right to be fair, but I've now hundreds of dollars down on Barbie outfits that I won't wear. So I've decided that once the wedding day rolls around, I'm going to be wearing one of those Barbie themed outfits, just to make a point for the bride that I did not get to wear them to the hens. I was never going to wear them anywhere else, so, fuck it, I'm wearing it to the wedding. I think the half skirt option sounds like the most appropriate.
Speaker 1:Have your ass out. Exactly, it's in Thailand. Oh well, it'll be hot, so that'll be nice. Get some brace on your ass, cheeks. I was just about to say at least I won't have to deal with the sweaty ass on the dress. You will be leaving a sweaty ass all over the seats, though, which is not I know. I'll have to hope it's not my time of the month, or it's going to be a fucking massacre. You can leave that out. I think I'll leave it in.
Speaker 1:Speaking of running out of cash, um, I was today years old when I realised that there was. Have you heard of a Kardashian card? It rings a bell. That's with a double K, of course. Anything to do with Kardashians Kardashian card. I have a brief memory of it, but I never had one. I don't know anybody that did have one. So, yeah, that's all I've got to contribute. So, yeah, that's it okay. So it existed in the world and it was like a huge flop. It was a prepaid debit card released in 2010, so that would have honestly been around the same time that the rest of the world. Jordan no disrespect was on a prepaid phone. Um, you're a late bloomer. I was probably on a plan at that stage. Probably you were still writing letters by mail. Fire signals um, yeah, exactly, okay. So it was pulled after a month after investigations, because there was insane fees on the card and the target audience, I think, was like young women, which is giving me huge payday loan vibes.
Speaker 1:Did you ever get a payday loan? No, I don't know how big of a thing they are in Australia, payday loans. Yeah, are they big? I mean, I don't know. Again, that would require some research, jordan, and that is not our motive for this podcast. We're not here to educate, we are only here to judge, only here to talk shit. Yeah, um, yeah. No, I have not heard of payday loans in Australia, but there's probably something similar, I'm sure. Okay, so a payday loan is? I mean, it's essentially giving these companies like free money. You basically borrow ten dollars from them and then you owe them fifty dollars tomorrow.
Speaker 1:So when I was living in the UK, I was running. I was basically running what's a reverse Ponzi scheme? I was running a reverse Ponzi scheme on myself self-sabotage, gambling I said I'm just gonna just gonna move some funds around, guys, before I shout us all this next round. By moving funds around, I mean transferring my debt collection fee from one payday loan to another, like on the toilet. Transferring 20 quid. Being like this is going to cost me 150 quid tomorrow, but it's worth it for some sweet, sweet Merlot, some, yeah, shitty house wine, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was all the yellow label Rioja. That's definitely not from Spain. I love that stuff. That's my drink of choice. I feel like that is a family household staple, like everyone has the Rioja, but they call it like Rioja. Yeah, grab the Rioja, get a bottle of the Rioja and a paella.
Speaker 1:So there's a couple of other celebrity business ventures that have failed alongside the Kardashian card. Let's see if you remember any of these. Okay, this one is a huge favorite for me. It was Lindsay Lohan's beach house. Yes, I remember, did you? When she was doing the iconic hair flip. She's like like there's a party in Mykonos, so it was in 2018. She opened a beachfront club in Mykonos, so it also inspired a reality tv show, which I haven't watched yet, but no, I never saw that 100% on my list, lindsay Lohan's beach club, which have very low ratings, which why, like that, would be number one on my list? Fuck, love is Blind.
Speaker 1:I want to know what Lindsay Lohan's doing in her beach house. I want to know what. Who was it with as in like? What station? Who was on the reality TV show no like? Was it MTV or was it because that would have made a huge difference? Probably, true. Please hold whilst I research this. Please hold whilst I research this. This must be our first um research moment. Okay, thanks, we're back back to the studio. Uh, it was on mtv. Oh, rogue as in. I don't know why it didn't have more. It's probably shit. That's why ratings, yeah, I know so.
Speaker 1:The club quickly shut down within a year due to management and financial struggles. Honestly, that will be on my gravestone. Her body shut down due to management and financial struggles seriously. But that iconic Lindsay Lohan hair flip when she's dancing in front of the DJ booth that will live rent free in my mind forever and ever. I do often think about that when I'm dancing. I'm like do I look like Lindsay Lohan right now, 2018. So is that meant to be a good thing or a bad thing. A bad thing. I mean she's having a great time because she's just doing whatever she wants, but she looks ridiculous. I'm sorry. She's living her best life. She's got her own fucking beach club for a year.
Speaker 1:Only three people are watching her, but it's fine. Honestly, at this stage, this podcast is literally just like our diaries for the day. It's just our journal that no one else will see. It's just a phone call between us. It's just a FaceTime that we're chucking out to the world that only our partners are interested in. And one person you work with Hi Nick. Hi Nick, number one fan.
Speaker 1:The second one on there is Ja Rule's Fyre Festival. So I actually didn't realize that Ja Rule was part of this. Did you watch the Fyre Festival documentary? I watched both of them. I didn't know. There was two. Yeah, I think it's Netflix and Hulu. Oh, I didn't watch the Hulu one.
Speaker 1:I feel like Fyre Festival is one of those really notorious ones. So it was co-founded by Ja Rule. And then Billy McFarland is the other one, who sort of reminded me of. Remember the guy that created and then voiced Peter on Family Guy? What's his name? Seth Rogen. Yeah, seth Meyer. Oh, yeah, seth Seth. So, yeah, billy McFarland reminds me of him and it was marketed as, like this luxury music festival.
Speaker 1:There was all of the celebs involved, it was going to be on a private island and it was basically like Melbourne this week, like we went to Fyre Festival. I feel like, didn't they, didn't he get celebrities like Kendall Jenner and stuff like that level of celebrity to endorse it and push it out there? I think Justin Bieber was one of them as well. That whole crew was, I'm pretty sure. Last time I talked to them they said that they were involved. It was that whole crew, all of those people that hang out together.
Speaker 1:Oh, he would have just paid them. Yeah, he would have just paid all the Nepo babies. He put a message out to the Nepo babies and said he'd pay them and send them there in private jets, and then he knows his target audience. So they were promised luxury accommodation, gourmet food and top-tier entertainment and instead they had like ridiculous conditions, whether and otherwise they had tents and then cheese sandwiches, which, you know, depending on the cheese, I wouldn't be mad about. No, that's on my like. What is it the meal that you would have on death row, your death row meal? A good cheese sandwich, cheese sandwich or cheese toasty Cheese sandwich oh, with nice cheese. That would be enough to put me to sleep. So the event never fully happened and there was like multiple lawsuits and McFarland was imprisoned for fraud.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure he's back out now, though. Right, he is back out. He's. He's actually planning a second installment of Fire Festival, fire Festival 2. And no, he's been talking about it quite a bit this year. Um, he is Netflix covering that. I have no idea, but basically he is. I think it's $26 million in debt, so he owes $26 million in restitution to the victims for the first festival and nearly $7 million in back taxes he owes. So basically, it's scheduled to take place in the Caribbean in December this year, apparently. I had a look. I couldn't find much on it, except for a lot of news outlets talking about it, but tickets are priced. I mean he'd be laying low this time around. Surely you would think so. I mean, that in itself is sort of like a payday loan, like he's basically just trying to get more in debt from another one to cover the debts from his other one.
Speaker 1:I can't get over all of the celebrity failed business ventures because there are also so many of them. So Trump? Did you know that he did a Trump steak? I did know about this. Actually, they were like seriously overpriced and they were sold as like a premium steak. But is there any pie that Trump has not had a finger in is what I must know. No, apparently the steaks that he was selling, the packaging alone was worth hundreds of dollars. So I don't know how much the steaks actually were, but the actual packaging for it Bullshit, yeah. Anyway, kk also had a Kimoji app, which I actually used once and it was the most useless app I have ever seen and it was full of glitches. So so many issues.
Speaker 1:The other one, on a slightly different tangent, which is like a business venture turned indictment again, was Theranos. Do you remember the movie about this? Not only do I remember the movie, but I listened to the podcast when it first came out that was investigating what was happening before she got charged and then years later followed it up with the court cases and everything. So I love this story. I've read the book as well. Great book, well, great. Maybe you can tell it then, because you obviously you go ahead. Oh, you know a lot about it. Maybe it's best you, you should share. You should share what you know and I'll tell you. I'll fill in the gaps. So sorry, go ahead. So patients could perform a wide range of tests, allegedly with a few drops of blood. The company was valued at $9 billion before it was revealed that its technology did not work as promised, and it became one of the most significant fraud cases in Silicon Valley history. And then Elizabeth Holmes went to prison.
Speaker 1:So there's, I would say from watching the movie myself, the biggest stand out there was the weird voice that she put on, and I'm like she copied my voice. It wasn't just a voice, though. Where's the justice for me? Yeah, yeah, well, take it to court, get in line, I know. I'm like if that's all that's required to push something through in Silicon Valley and get a couple of investors, I've fucking lost my calling. This nasally voice I've been teased about for years and years. Little did I know. All I need to do is stick on a fucking sweater turtleneck, yeah, and head on over to Silicon Valley.
Speaker 1:She's been sentenced, I think, to like 11 years or something like that, so she's not going to be released until 2032, which, yeah. It blows my mind how they come up with the timeframes, particularly since Billy. Was it Billy? That was his name, billy McFarlane or whatever. Billy McFarlane, yeah, he got. I don't know how many years he got, but he's out already. Anyway, I would actually recommend, if anyone hasn't interested at all, not that we really sold the story, but just to be making fun of her voice and the fact that she stole Steve Jobs' signature. Look, which is the turtleneck. The book is actually really good. Sorry, was it Steve Jobs first and foremost, or was it the rocks?
Speaker 1:Okay, a couple of other very odd business ventures that are lesser known, not to do with celebrities, but I thought these were good ones to shout out because I had never heard of these before. Were pet rock? If I had pet rock, I would think that that was something to do with jack black in the shout out because I had never heard of these before. Were Pet Rock? If I heard Pet Rock, I would think that that was something to do with Jack Black in the School of Rock and he'd done like a prequel or a sequel that flopped, called Pet Rock.
Speaker 1:Did you not own one of those when you were younger? Like, stop it. It was a primary. You did not. Yes, I didn't own that brand, but I in primary school we would go out into the yard and I couldn't afford a branded one. We would all go. It's just standard. Like you would go out into the playground and pick a rock and then you'd go back in and part of your craft afternoon was decorating the rock and it's your pet rock and you would name it. Okay, this one came with breathing holes. Okay, out of all of these, when I list these ones, to know that pet rock was the biggest success just says to me how sad it is that now having only one electronic platform to stimulate us at a time is seen as boring.
Speaker 1:When in 1975, rocks were rocks plural were selling. Do they have little turtlenecks on cakes and a gold chain and a funny pack? But do you know what? That pisses me off? That sorry. I shouldn't get so aggressive about some pet rocks. But why are parents buying rocks their kids? Go get a rock, stick it in a box with some holes and give it to your child. If that's the issue, why are you paying for it? Why have I got my fist clenched? Because they didn't have inflation issues at the time. Jordan Bugs me. It was a different way of life.
Speaker 1:So next on the list was Colgate frozen dinners. What comes to mind when I say Colgate frozen dinners to you? Toothpaste and peppermint. Pretty much so. Colgate kitchen entrees was a line of frozen dinners and it was actually just like normal frozen dinners, but nobody bought them, because why the fuck would you buy frozen dinners that were from a toothpaste company? And on that same note, there was Clairol's Touch of Yogurt Shampoo as well, which was in 1979. There's a common theme here that all of these are between like the 70s and like the late 80s or early 90s, but I think that yogurt's actually good for your hair.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, so this one. There was a shampoo that was made with yogurt and some people mistook it for actual yogurt, so they had to pull it from the shelves because it was not good for the soul. No, sorry, you've just said that you would think that it was yogurt. No, if you're grabbing shampoo, if you're grabbing yogurt from the shampoo aisle and you think that you can eat it, then you've got an issue. Why are you in the toiletries aisle picking up things you think you can eat? And if you think it's yogurt, wouldn't you grab it from the fridge and not from a standard aisle? People don't think and then blame it on companies. I'm over it. Where are you going to get like 700 mils of yogurt, though, like some people again, they might've been going through a Cozzy Lives?
Speaker 1:Next one on the list is Harley Davidson perfume, which was in the nineties. They launched a line of perfumes and colognes that was biker themed, which actually I'm going to look up the bottles bottles which I should have done. Yeah, it's not like bike. Oh, you know what it looks like. It looks like the leather polish that you use on, like RM Williams, nice, or it looks like a cigarette. That one one also flopped unsurprisingly and finally, I'm surprised, this one flopped, I won't lie.
Speaker 1:Cheetos lip balm Was it coloured Like orange? One moment, please. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, yes, yes, it was colored. Oh, I love that. I'd love to know if it was. Oh, yeah, it's like a scrub.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised I didn't get pulled because people would be buying it, thinking they can eat it. I mean, you probably could eat that one. To be fair, I don't know if I could deal with that level of stimulation. I'd literally fucking eat that lip balm in about five seconds. Yeah, honestly, it would just make me want a bag of well. I guess that's the whole idea is they want people to be buying their stuff and thinking of them, thinking of Cheetos. Imagine being in the women's toilets, gacked off your face, at 2am and someone's like do you want some lip balm, babe? Oh my God, how attractive just having like Cheeto dust smeared all over your face at all times. Imagine being 16, you hook up with a guy for the first time and you've got Cheeto's lip balm on your lips. That's a vibe, or going down on someone.
Speaker 1:Actually have a few that I want to add to that list. But I think that these ones are ingenious and that they should have gone further, and I would have loved to have been in the room when they were pitching these ideas to whoever they needed to get funding from. So the first one is called hangover helpers and they clean up after your party and bring you breakfast. So they're essentially hangover fairy godmother services, which I think is a fantastic idea. That's the fucking dream, great idea. They clean up, bring your hot breakfast while they clean up and then you can just go back to bed. Perfect, amy could do that. She's got a lot of practice, so could gris. To be fair, I'm running a not-for-profit personally. They've paid their dues. I've got a volunteer service in my backyard currently, okay.
Speaker 1:Next one is I do, now I don't secondhand engagement rings, basically capitalizing on heartbreak, which I love. I think this is a great idea. Resell yeah, it's called I do, now I don't, and you resell your engagement ring. So they buy the engagement rings and then they resell it on your behalf, which I think is a great idea. So it's basically like Depop for engagement rings yeah, but don't you love the name? I do, now I don't Change my mind. What about if you receive the engagement ring and then you put it on he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me not. Okay. And the last one I have is rent a chicken, which is exactly what it sounds like.
Speaker 1:You get to test out a chicken before you buy one. So if you're thinking of starting a hobby farm, what do they mean by test out? Oh, like, if you're starting, you get a thigh or no. If you're starting out a hobby farm, then you get to test the chicken and see if you like that, if that, if, if that's your lifestyle. And how would one test out the chicken? Pray tell. I think it's just like working out if you can keep it alive, if you've got what it takes to be a hobby farmer. I don't know. I'm probably their target market. So the test is actually you. They're testing you out pretty much the chicken's. She's no good. Put her on the black list.
Speaker 1:You've had your fair share of bad business ventures. I don't want to out you on the podcast but, um, sorry, why are you saying bad of you? I don't like that. You were bad in there because we're here, jordan, it's an intervention. Um, I would say that I spend 70% of my time planning businesses and the other 30% is spent drinking red wine and pitching my business ideas to people, particularly loved ones, but basically anyone that will listen.
Speaker 1:For example, I spent I spent last Christmas pitching my latest idea and trying to get investment from my family members. On Christmas day I was which is hard because you have a sibling that's a financial advisor, I know so I was not giving off reliable stable at all. I was swaying. He's like what are your profit margins? You're like negative 600. Next, I was asking my parents to invest in my business, which is probably my 700th business idea.
Speaker 1:With red wine, stain teeth and the inability to string a sentence together, it was horrific, and I wasn't even asking for much. I'm like, honestly, just put in whatever you can, it's fine. I'll take $30. I'll take $40. Like nothing screams desperate. Like, just give me your change. Where's your change, your coin jar? I'll take whatever I can get. They're like okay, jordan, we won't give you that money, but this is an intervention. It is an. It's always an intervention.
Speaker 1:So I, as you know you've known me for a long time get a lot of ideas. I go into obsession mode and start planning everything out. I have a logo, I have a business plan, I have a social media account, ready to go within like five minutes, correct. So I thought I'm not going to focus on one of my business ideas because I've got so many of them. I actually went through my Instagram accounts earlier today and found a whole bunch of ones that I've created previously over the years. Oh, fantastic.
Speaker 1:And I, jordan, want to ask you, claudia, to rate my business name out of 10. And these are all previous ones, so I'm not going to be upset. These are real life examples. Real life examples. I can show you the Instagram accounts. If you need proof, then I need you to guess what the business was. Some are easy. Let's see how well, you go. Okay, the first one is sparkly seconds, but seconds like the number two, nds. Sparkly seconds, sparkly seconds. Okay, it is a toilet brush. No, sparkly seconds. Okay, now I want you to rate the name out of 10. Okay, the name. Well, there's alliteration included, so I'll give it a five. Okay, so it's actually.
Speaker 1:It was actually a business for upcycled secondhand clothing and goods. I purchased a sewing machine and started marketing this business despite never having sewed since year 10. And when I sewed in year 10 in my home ec class this is for my textiles teacher In my textiles class I got a D for my work on the sewing machine, but I thought D for I do. Now I don't, so obviously not great at sewing didn't end up going ahead with it when I realized I had to actually set up the sewing machine and then I sold it on Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 1:Number two DIY cleaning. Diy cleaning. Okay, the name I give it to, and the business I'm assuming is like your general household chores, living existing in the world as an adult. Close, it was carpet cleaner rentals. It was what? Carpet cleaner rentals? So I purchased not one, but two bison carpet cleaners, professional grade. Did you actually do this? Yeah, I'm not even kidding. I've got them still in my cupboard. They're like like $800 each. I set up a business. I had all my marketing stuff ready to go and then I realized that I actually had to action on it, and now they just sit in the cupboard. I guess you learned to clean up your act. I should have, but I didn't. Number three, that is, I can't get over the fact that you got like professional grade carpet cleaners. Also, your house is 98% floorboards. Yeah, I didn't buy it for myself, I bought it to rent out to other people. Okay.
Speaker 1:Number three Pulp Fusion. Pulp Fusion. Okay, it's a play on Pulp Fiction. So I'll give it a six out of ten. Okay, I assume I thought it would be higher, but all right that.
Speaker 1:It was a juice business. Smoothie Van slash, juice Van I was. I was gonna say where does the pipe come into this fruit? Okay, so it's just kind of like a drink on wheels situation. Yeah, I don't like how you're downplaying it, because this is probably one of my better ideas. It's just like oh, it was just a juice van. No, claudia, it was the best damn juice van you would have ever seen. Anyway. So I was going to like corporate events or no. It was going to be by the beach and do like acai bowls and smoothies and juices. I actually toured a coffee van that was selling to see if it would be. I had no savings to actually purchase the van, but I did go and in fact two of one, considering I just bought two professional grade carpet cleaners yeah.
Speaker 1:The next one was your daily PA. Your daily PA. Yeah. And before you answer anything to do with this, I just want to preface and say there are a lot of businesses out in the world these days and it is hard to come up with good business names because they're all fucking taken. Okay, your daily PA I mean you're really spelling it out to people. Your nine to five, 38 hours a week, as per legislative requirements, pa, all hyphenated. Okay. So it was a personal assistant service online.
Speaker 1:But here's where it failed. I mean it probably failed for a number of reasons, but I my prices could not compare with the offshore companies, unfortunately, which was a big oversight on my behalf in the research stage of my business plan, because I really should have looked at the numbers. I should have crunched the numbers, claudia, which we know is not my strong suit, and so it failed because I was like, okay, well, I would like to get at least minimum wage and unfortunately that was not possible. Those are just the ones I found on my Instagram account, like ones that I'd actually created Instagram or Facebook pages for, ones that made it as far as like genuine business ventures. Yes, honestly, I feel like there's so many more that I could name of yours. None of mine really got off the ground because I am the ultimate procrastinator. So I'd say, at least you've got me there. You've got me there, like, at least you commit to the cause. So that's all we've got for today's episode.
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