Intuitive Marketing Podcast

#1: Intuitive Strategies for Sustainable Success

• Chelsea Fournier + Meg O'Neill • Season 1 • Episode 1

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What if you could grow your business exponentially without sacrificing your well-being? Join us, Meg and Chelsea, on this episode of the Intuitive Marketing Podcast as we share our transformative journeys from burnout to thriving entrepreneurs. With backgrounds in startup law and brick-and-mortar businesses and experience in insurance litigation and wellness facilities, we bring a wealth of knowledge and personal stories to help you navigate the entrepreneurial landscape. This episode is a must-listen for anyone balancing a hectic lifestyle, chronic health issues, or family commitments while striving for business success.

We dive deep into the concept of intuitive marketing, blending traditional strategies with methods that respect your intuition and nervous system. Inspired by Dan Sullivan’s "10X is Easier Than 2X," we'll break down how to overcome the fear of increased workload that comes with growth, the power of delegation, and why saying no to smaller opportunities can lead to bigger wins. Our conversation aims to normalize the ups and downs of the entrepreneurial journey, particularly for high achievers and rule-followers who want to build an authentic business without burning out.

To wrap up, we’ll guide you on how to infuse magic back into your marketing efforts amidst the overwhelming flood of information and conflicting advice online. Our goal is to help you find clarity and act as your compass through the noise. Plus, get a sneak peek into our next episode, where we’ll focus on making business decisions grounded in intuition. Let us empower you to reclaim your decision-making power and align your strategies with your vision. Don’t miss out on these actionable insights that could transform your business and well-being.

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Meh O'Neill:

What if there was a way to reach a higher level of business without burning out?

Chelsea Fournier:

That's what we're going to talk about here today, and also share our stories of reinvention after burnout and give you potent homework that will help you start calling in a new vision of what's possible for you.

Meh O'Neill:

Hey there friends.

Chelsea Fournier:

Welcome to the Intuitive Marketing Podcast, where we ditch the bro marketing BS and bring you big sister vibes instead. I'm Meg and this is.

Meh O'Neill:

Chelsea, your new biz besties.

Chelsea Fournier:

We met on TikTok in 2023. Fast forward to now and we have teamed up here to guide you through the wild world of marketing your business with heart and soul.

Meh O'Neill:

Are you feeling lost or overwhelmed, maybe unsure of your next steps, but you have a big vision of where your coaching, healing, speaking or writing career could be in the next five years, 10 years. Don't worry, we've got your back. We'll help you tap into your intuition, build a brand that lights you up and leverage proven marketing strategies to grow towards a six or even seven figure business in a way that won't make you cringe.

Chelsea Fournier:

We're actually here to help you bring the magic back into your marketing. Because marketing should feel good, not gross Grab your favorite drink, get comfy and let's get started.

Meh O'Neill:

I am so excited for today's episode because we are going to talk about why we're here. I am so excited for today's episode because we are going to talk about why we're here, why this podcast, and how we're already helping people reach their goals and dreams without burnout. But this requires a level of knowledge for traditional marketing and also making sure that you're doing it in a supportive way that honors your intuition and nervous system.

Chelsea Fournier:

Well, and I think this is the challenge because, meg, I know you and I, we know a little bit about our stories and we're going to share some more with our listeners shortly. But, like many of our clients, many of our friends, we're running our businesses on top of already busy lives and we have things going on Right and so, like chronic health, neurodivergence, kids at home, summer, summer gosh, we're recording this right as we're stepping back into getting into school. You know schedules and everything for our kids and I feel, like you and I have been, like we cannot build this in a way like we're hearing all of the bro marketers doing Right and we're constantly hearing from people that they have these huge visions of success for their business and themselves, but a lot of them are moms.

Meh O'Neill:

A lot of them do have chronic health conditions and they're not seeing a role model that has really embodied. Okay, how can I reach this certain level of success while also honoring the fact that I have all of these other commitments? We're really shifting and creating a new paradigm of what is possible, and we want people to do that alongside of us.

Chelsea Fournier:

Yeah, Well, and I know you're like the social media guru of the two of us and I sometimes just look at people's feeds and I'm like they're saying that they're creating things in balance and they're saying that you know they really prioritize their health and their self-care, but if you get in the DMs with them and build a relationship, you're realizing that might not actually be the case. Do you feel like people are really just putting the highlight reel? I don't know, Am I just jaded?

Meh O'Neill:

No, you're. You're so like. We've both been in the game for a little while, right, and we've invested in different coaches, we've invested in different programs. So we've seen the behind the scenes and we've seen people say that they're going to take a maternity leave, but then they're posting about their, their programs and selling them actively from their voice. So, you know it, it kind of is a little contradictory. I, I really want to take time off, right, I really want my clients to be able to take time off and not have to worry about doing, you know, answering emails or. But what? What's the hard?

Chelsea Fournier:

part. What do you think the hard part is? Where do a lot of people get caught up? I think you know everybody who comes to me says I want this to look professional.

Chelsea Fournier:

Most of my clients I mean we work with dudes too but most of our clients are women and I feel like a lot of our clients and my friends are recovering people pleasers 100%. They have had success in other realms of their life and so it's like if I'm doing this business, especially doing it online, it's very visible, feel super fucking vulnerable and you want it to look professional. But then there's like you hear all these things, you know, you got to have an email list set up, you got to be showing up on social media, you got to be doing talking head videos, you got to be doing this, that, that, that, and it's like, well, how can I do it? It feels so prohibitive if you have only pockets of time to be able to be able to be showing up and growing your business. And I mean most of our clients are coaches, healers, speakers, authors and so like they need to be doing their actual thing.

Meh O'Neill:

They want to be in their zone of genius. And and that's like, that's what's so exciting about the two of us coming together too, because I will always say I am like the queen of messy action, yeah, but Chelsea is the queen of strategy. I'm like what?

Chelsea Fournier:

about the back end.

Meh O'Neill:

Exactly, I'm like, just write a Google doc and put it out there, sell it that way, like, but it's in doing that I learned that burnout came because I didn't have those systems in place. Right, and sometimes burnout can come, maybe for you by if you aren't taking action quick enough, whatever it might be Like I'll build.

Chelsea Fournier:

I'll kind of I have a pattern of like the build it and they will come Like I'll build this beautiful funnel and then be like I don't have any traffic to it. It's so funny because I'm the opposite.

Meh O'Neill:

And that's why I think this podcast is going to be so helpful for so many of you, because we're combining both of them. We both saw these opportunities in our lives. I saw this opportunity to work with somebody that had that experience or that really thrived in that area, because entrepreneurship can be lonely right.

Chelsea Fournier:

Yeah Well, and I think something that's really fun about working with you A, we've just been learning so many things that we have in common that I'll message you and be like, oh, I'm doing this and you're like what I'm already doing.

Chelsea Fournier:

That that's interesting. And we both, you know, are on our own self-healing journey, and so we set really strong boundaries. Like it feels unavailable to me to grow a business in a way that's going to lead to burnout again, Right, and so chronic illness I'm self-diagnosed ADHD like 100% competent. I have right now, as the time we're recording this, I have an almost five-year-old who's highly sensitive, just takes a lot of support, and we just have other things going on outside of our business, and so when we are making choices, I A want it to be in alignment with all of that and, B to feel really in connection with my intuition, and so, obviously, the name of this podcast, we're going to be talking a lot about intuition. And then when I found out I think when we even started talking about working together on this, I didn't even know you were like I'm a trained intuitive and I was like, oh, that's why we get along so well.

Meh O'Neill:

Yes, and that I think that's another thing that really makes us approachable to our people is that I actually I built a healing and intuitive business before. I've been on that and I can tell you how it feels to market in a way, because when we are highly sensitive or we are people who have service at our heart, it's hard to price things right. It's hard to put yourself out there in that way. But I always come back to two different things. One your desires provide you with direction, right. So if you landed on this podcast and you're like you hear us say six or seven figures and you're like, oh, that feels so out of what I could do.

Meh O'Neill:

It's a stretch, but like you have that desire, like you're in the right place, your intuition already led you here, like your desires are providing you with your next steps and your next direction. And then the other thing that I wanted to say is totally left my head. So what do you think about that? It'll probably come back to me.

Chelsea Fournier:

I love that. Well, I think that for so many of us, we have had success and it could be that you are a stay at home mom, it could be that you currently have a day job and you're growing a business on top of that, or it could be that you feel successful in an existing business you have. There's this point I think. I don't know. We're both in our 40s. I feel like there's this point either in maturity in your business or maturity in your life. I'm not willing to keep wearing the mask, whatever that looks like for you.

Chelsea Fournier:

If it was the mask of people pleasers, I know you do a lot of work with helping women overcome that and creating their content. Whether it's if you're like unmasking learning about your neurodivergence, whether it's just unmasking being like I don't want to try to fit in a box Like I. I have spent so much money on different programs where I get so excited to be in the room with the leader and then I start to realize that nobody else in that room really gets me. You know it's like if I really want to say hey, I know that as a group we're all supposed to be launching something on this date, but, like I, have family obligations.

Meh O'Neill:

What about your period? I'm going to be in my bleed.

Chelsea Fournier:

I don't like to launch things on a full moon, you know, like I don't feel like I can voice that and show up as my whole person.

Chelsea Fournier:

And so I have, in the past, really been in situations where I've like, hey, I've invested in being in this room, so I'm going to do the things they're saying, trust the process, and then I end up hating what I created not having magnetic energy around it. And then I'm like I just spent six months and like however much on Facebook ads, like follow this process, and so I know that we really want people to get to do business in a way that is very much you like, whatever you know, even if Meg and I are talking about something like we don't want you to do it, just because we're excited about it or we think it could work for you. But I do think, do you feel like there's this tension that a lot of us who really want to have this like expansive business, we do want alignment, we want it to feel authentic, we want it to do our own way, but there's also this tension that we kind of just want someone to tell us what to do. A little bit A hundred percent.

Meh O'Neill:

Yeah, it's like I always say you know I want to be the. You know I like to make the decisions in my family. I make the doctor's appointments for the kids, I pick the school stuff. But then there's also the part of me that like doesn't want to be asked, like where to go for dinner.

Chelsea Fournier:

Like.

Meh O'Neill:

I just want you to take me there, so that's what we want to do to people.

Meh O'Neill:

Like you know, we want you to have this big overarching view and we want to give you the options and then get you to a place where you trust us and you know that we've done it before that we can just say, yeah, this is your next step. Like you've got to be posting videos, you got to be doing this. Like you know, chelsea can say to you this is exactly how you set up your funnel and that is going to be such a weight off of your shoulders because we've we've done it for so many intuitives, we've done it for so many people. Like, we get that and we want you to be able to feel that level of calm in your nervous system. That's what we get really passionate about.

Chelsea Fournier:

Well, and I know we're going to share like more about our stories of burnout and then redirecting in just a couple of minutes. But I feel like, in case some people know only me or only you or just new to the podcast, why don't we just take like a little humble brag moment? Because I feel like there are a lot of people out there creating podcasts, creating content, who are really amazing, well-meaning and don't necessarily have a long track record behind them. And this is not to throw shade to someone who might be new to business, but, like we've been in this game for a little while, do you want to give just like a little background on the types of experience that you bring to what we're doing?

Meh O'Neill:

Yes, I have been on the internet before Instagram. I've been on the internet before blogs a thing. So I was in college at the time of when blogs were coming out and have been doing this for a very, very long time, and at the core of what I see is that we have gotten to a place where we are so worried about how many followers we have and how many. You know how big the community is. That has nothing to do with how much money you make and how much you know you need to say that again.

Meh O'Neill:

I you know, I made my first $10,000 with having under 2000 followers. So many of my clients have, you know, under 5000 followers. And because what we prioritize is authenticity and community and connecting with your people, and that's really what we want you to feel in this podcast too. We want you to like, if you listen, you're part of our group, you're part of our people and we're so happy to just hear. Be transparent and show you what we're doing as well, and I think that makes it a difference. Like we're not here to say, like we're on this pedestal and we figured it all out because we don't, we haven't. We're here to walk this journey with you, but like there's no gatekeeping, we're going to show you how to.

Meh O'Neill:

Yeah, yeah, and you tell us about you.

Chelsea Fournier:

Yeah, if anybody doesn't know my story, so I was a startup lawyer. So I was the kind of lawyer that you actually like wanted to hang out with and do things with, because I'd like help you set up your company, brand your trademarks, like, protect everything. So I did that for from 2008 to 2016-ish, and also in that window is between like 2014, 2016, I was a part of a startup team for two different startup companies. I'm from Maine, and so I was really in the throes of setting up two brick and mortar businesses, both of which are now, almost a decade later, both up and running and thriving, and so, like building that foundation for things that are going to be around for the long haul and being that kind of co-founder energy is super exciting to me. And then, of course, I bring that co-founder energy here into the agency that you and I run together, and also I feel like when I'm working with clients, I bring that kind of same co-founder vibe like, hey, this is your business, but let's partner up and collaborate.

Meh O'Neill:

That's what people love about you. You do such a good job with that. Like, let's do it together, even if just for a little bit Right and not be tied to the outcome, Like you want success for them but you're just going to give them these options that feel good to you.

Chelsea Fournier:

Yeah, so that's why we definitely both bring like corporate and marketing experience and also, in addition to you know, more of the straight business stuff. I've been running my own side hustle, like when I was a um, when I was a lawyer. I actually went to at the time. I went to coaching school in 2010,. There was two coaching certification programs in the country. There was like very few options and you know I went through coaching.

Chelsea Fournier:

I had to like talk to the HR at the big law firm I was working at at the time to convince them to let me to leave early one day a week to get home to do this certification program and I had to like sell them on how it was going to help me, help my clients more and stuff. And I was really dedicated to it. And then I would get up at 7am and do executive coaching client sessions before going into the office. Like I really saw the power of coaching above and beyond just what I could do in, like people paying me for a billable hour of my expertise. So I just got hooked on what it looks like to coach and then over the years really saw that gap that I think you and I are very powerful coaches and then you can get people to a place of clarity, which is really the point of coaching, and if they don't know how to do something tech wise, don't have time to do it.

Chelsea Fournier:

Kids, job, neurodivergence, whatever and so that's really where we've come together to say, hey, there's different ways we can support you to take some of those off your plate, make it easier to give you a leg up, and that's what I'm really excited about.

Meh O'Neill:

And honor your voice. Did I ever tell you that I worked at a law firm? No, I did. I interned in Manhattan at a law firm and it was an insurance litigation firm, and I was like this is not for me, but we have so many overlaps. That's and that's what we bring into our community too. We attract a lot of people who, like we said before, you know, grew up probably really high, achieving um people pleasers. Do you know? We I think we attract a lot of people who grew up as rule followers and people who wanted to do it the right way. Right, and we wanted to do the things that our parents said in school, said, and then we found this place that felt like oh my God, you know it did take me till my thirties or forties Like this feels so uncomfortable. I want to be me, and so we will never tell you you have to do things a certain way, but we will show you how to make it easier.

Chelsea Fournier:

Yeah, I love that. So we know that this podcast is about you, not us, and you won't be hearing us jibber jab about ourselves all day long, but we want you to know we've been in situations and life changes that might resonate with you in this first episode as you get to know us. So, meg, since we're talking about the topic of burnout and how we are going to be introducing people to new ways to feel authentic and to be carving out their own path, do you want to share some of our dirty secrets of when we were in burnout, just to show like it's going to be okay?

Meh O'Neill:

We've been there and they can be the catalyst for, you know, changing your life. So I was one of the co-founders of a pre and postnatal wellness facility, which was brick and mortar, in the town that we live in, years ago and in 2018, I had three kids. My oldest is autistic. He had an accident where he fell out of a second story window and broke both of his feet, and I was working like 30 plus hours building this brand, and a lot of the brand was built around my personal story.

Meh O'Neill:

And I was like I was feeling. I was already feeling a little burnt out from like in the in the breastfeeding world. I was doing a lot of help around breastfeeding but I was also breastfeeding myself and it was just like not breastfeeding myself.

Meh O'Neill:

You know what I mean. And I was like getting burnt out on that level of support and I just had a misalignment with the management at where I was working. And I remember sitting in my car and on the phone I was just like, okay, I'm done with this, like we're I'm done, like we're done, we're going to. You know I'll help you make the transition. But I have to walk away. And in that moment I said to myself like I have to stay home for a year and just not focus on anything but my family, because my son had had that accident. My daughter was in early intervention. I was driving once a week over two hours to bring my son to feeding therapy. You know there was so much going on that I was like I have to get this all insanity to think you can do it all exactly?

Meh O'Neill:

and like where is there room for me in this? So I took some time off and, as a manifester in human design, like there, like my mind was always like going with some new ideas, um, and that's how I got into the coaching space. And to come back to that messy action, like I took a training and then I just put a program out there and I didn't have the strategy and structure in place and over a year later I launched a mastermind that brought in $30,000 in cash in a month. It actually brought in more than that, but it was the most dysregulating thing for my nervous system because I didn't have the backend stuff set up and I thought to myself oh my God, it did not feel hard.

Meh O'Neill:

I'm not going to lie, Like it didn't feel hard in the moment. It felt really good and exciting. What felt hard was when I got to the end and I surpassed the goal. I didn't feel happy. I didn't feel like there was like I was chasing a goal and then I was like, oh, whatever, like $30,000. It didn't resonate with me Wow, interesting. And then I was really scared for the next month. I was like, oh, my God, how do I keep this up? Yeah, so that that's kind of been my path to burnout.

Chelsea Fournier:

Well, I think there's yeah, there's a lot that is similar and in very different ways. I feel like for me, the biggest moment of burnout was actually in my corporate career. I've also flirted with burnout.

Chelsea Fournier:

I'm going to be honest as an entrepreneur, I've had seasons where I've been more of a speaker and course creator and I think I've gotten better at cutting it off before it really happens. But there's this day that when I was working in the first law firm that I worked at you know big penthouse, one of the biggest law firms in Maine it was like the coveted position to get out of law school. And so I was like so lucky, right, so got my class, got this program, got this internship and then fed into an associate position. But they saw my potential and so there was a lot of responsibility that was put on me and the people pleaser in me was like okay, they like me, I want to do this. And I was running a lot of big corporate closings like much sooner than maybe they were letting other associates.

Chelsea Fournier:

And there was I can remember it to this day I had my pinstripe banana republic suit hanging in the closet, my nine west pumps to put on, but I was in the shower and I stopped breathing. I couldn't, physically, could not, take a breath. I was in such a panic attack about how to run this closing. I fell to the floor of my bathroom and the thing that was pinging into my head that I was saying to myself very unkindly was I do not have time for this. And in that moment I was like outside my body, kind of looking down and being like you can't breathe, you can't have time for anything else.

Meh O'Neill:

Right, this is the only option here.

Chelsea Fournier:

We got to pay attention Right, and I wish I could say that that was a pivotal moment and I immediately started making changes, but I didn't. I started to. I immediately started making changes, but I didn't. I started to explore more personal development. That's when I started to explore coaching as this, like I wonder if one day it could be what I do, but it was very, very slow for me. It was a lot of healing that I had not stepped into yet, and so, like I really have to fast forward, maybe five years from then of when I started to really start taking control of my life. I left a toxic marriage. I walked away from two you know two startup companies that I'd been a part of that I could have stayed with, but they were very toxic relationships and then started to really further my coaching explore, like for me, I think I'm a generator, but I'm a one. Three and so the three.

Meh O'Neill:

Me too, I'm a one.

Chelsea Fournier:

Three oh, really yeah. The line three, if you're not familiar, is like you have to learn from your own mistakes, so much more than like someone could tell me that's a bad idea, he's a narcissist, you shouldn't do this, that's it. But until I've done it and learned and there's always value in the learning, always value in the learning and I feel like for me that was the peak of burnout. It didn't switch immediately, but I started to just be like there's got to be something else.

Meh O'Neill:

Something different.

Chelsea Fournier:

It like planted the seed for you and having a side hustle on top of my day job until I could see that it could become, you know, a real thing. And I think, if anything, I just hope that people can hear like you, can recognize it, step back and trust that there's steps you can start taking without seeing all the steps. Yeah, because for me, like it, I honestly becoming a mom is what really was the catalyst of my bigger like spiritual awakening. Yeah, um, and then started to niche down to saying I want to work with change makers, I want to like work with like light workers. Saying I want to work with change makers, I want to like work with like light workers, and I, I toyed around with all these different terms of like who I wanted to help, and it came down to like coaches, healers, speakers, like, basically, I wanted to be working with the next generation of thought leaders who are going to make a ripple effect in the world, cause I believe that when good people have more money in their pockets, they do good things.

Chelsea Fournier:

And so I wanted to be a part of saying like, just because you're a healer doesn't mean you can't charge or you can't have a business, or you can't have a business plan, or you can't have a marketing plan and so just being that like next step, I really trust that people either come into my life for a long season or glance in and take something that's going to be like maybe I'm just the next one cobblestone in their path, or maybe I'm like the next 17 and we're going to really like partner up and link up, and so that's kind of how I. I wish I could say that like the road from burnout to really finding my purpose was really quick, but it wasn't.

Meh O'Neill:

And that's, that's yeah, exactly, and I think a lot of people feel that way too. So it's good to have you know all different types of stories modeled and like. You might be listening and you might be in that that period right now and you're like but I can't just quit my job right, like I have to you have there.

Meh O'Neill:

You have to do certain things to get your nervous system in a place where you're like I'm ready to take the leap and we're here to support along that whole way. And I think, just on that note too, of using the different languaging that we have and like finding who we're speaking to. We both, we met each other on TikTok, right. Because, you were using intuitive marketing as a hashtag, I think, or, and I was too, and I think it's just. It's so fun, we'll have to tell that story on another episode.

Meh O'Neill:

But, if you have a story of burnout or you reached a point where you feel like your career just feels like suffocating, or whatever it might be, please reach out to us on social media. We both check the Intuitive Marketing Collective Instagram account, so we would love to hear your story. And just, are you in the middle of a pivot? Have you pivoted before? How are you really honoring and following your intuition in this season of your life?

Chelsea Fournier:

Absolutely yeah, and we want to leave you guys with a little bit of like what we're working through Cause I think that's always helpful like the behind the scenes and so we're going to kind of introduce a concept from a strategy perspective and then also give you a little bit of homework. So, if you're here for it, for the transformation, for leaning into this in full transparency, we are working together on taking our marketing agency to seven figures and we are like, confident that this is on the right path and all the steps that we're taking. And one of the ways that we're doing it is we're actually doing like a little mini book club, meg and I. So we're right now reading a book called 10X is Easier Than 2X by Dan Sullivan, and what we started to realize is, I think, something that you can probably relate to if you're listening to this that we have been, maybe subconsciously, scared that with more growth is going to mean being more busy, more busy, more busy, and so we want to talk about this concept of like.

Chelsea Fournier:

There was I think it was only in chapter one or chapter two, I forget, but they started talking about this concept of developing a seven-figure business that would be self-managed and the way my nervous system calmed. It almost felt like orgasmic. It was like what Like, is this possible? And I just started to think about so many of the things that are taught in software companies, in brick and mortar companies, like in bigger business models. It can translate to what we're doing too, and I think that a lot of coaches, healers, like our peeps are not necessarily putting themselves into rooms where they are getting exposed to these strategies and these foundational things.

Chelsea Fournier:

But you know, one of the concepts that I'm really excited about is like finding the right who so that, if there are, you know that's really about delegation, finding ways that you can systematize, streamline. Of course, that gets my like I don't know systems heart all excited to think through, like when I'm writing an SOP or when I'm writing a documentation for our virtual assistants to do something. I think of it as self-care. I think of it as I am giving future Chelsea a gift because I'm slowing down right now. I have ADHD, so I've got to like, have my bubbly water, a little piece of chocolate. I got to get to incentivize the shit out of myself to do these boring things. But I'm now like I am giving future Chelsea the gift of getting closer to a self-managed business.

Meh O'Neill:

I love that. The part that's really stuck with me in the book is like looking at the places that we have to say no to in order to grow. So to 10X, something you have to say no to a lot of the 2X type things, and I was recently part of a partnership that was growing a community that's going to hit 100,000 people, probably this or next week, and it was such a beautiful project. I loved it so much. Everything was going really well, but my my goal is to grow this to seven figures right.

Meh O'Neill:

Like our to grow and I had to say no to something that felt good, and you know it was a lovely thing, so that's been already something that's like, and you know it was a lovely thing, so that's been already something that's like making changes for me.

Chelsea Fournier:

Yeah, I think, like you know, envisioning where you want to be spending your time, where you see the return on investment.

Chelsea Fournier:

I think you know, I think there's a lot of clients of mine who are like I'm putting energy out, I'm putting posts out on social media, I'm doing X, y and Z and I don't see it coming back. And I feel like some of this concept of getting to a place where you're in your zone of genius as much as possible and starting to carve out ways whether it's delegation, whether it's using automation, whether it's using a funnel, like finding all of these different methods of ways, so that you don't have to be touching every aspect of your business every day. That's not in your zone of genius and you can't like just drop everything all at once. But I think what we're committed to is really modeling and fully embodying this process of what it looks like. Like come on the journey with us to go from a six figure to a seven figure agency so that you can see that, a this is possible. B it's possible from moms who are neurodivergent, who are also prioritizing our self-care, who are wearing sweatshirts Sometimes I'm in a bathing suit on a client call because then I'm taking my son somewhere we're doing the thing that a lot of our clients are trying to and I think we're not someone neither of us wants to be like, oh, we're now your role model, like do what we're doing, but more like I think what I'm hoping to do through this podcast is to normalize that you can basically do what we're doing.

Chelsea Fournier:

We're not, we're nothing special, right? And I think you know part of the homework that I know you're going to walk people through is really picturing yourself as the version of you, because there is a version of you inside If you have, even when we say six figure business, seven figure business, if there's even a tiny part of you. That's like I haven't said that out loud yet, but I've been getting goosebumps but I've been getting it, or I've been getting goosebumps.

Chelsea Fournier:

Someone told me I could grow this to that, but I didn't believe it and like, if there's even an inch of you that is excited about that, then you're going to want to go through this process with Meg.

Meh O'Neill:

Yes, and that's part of when you were talking about people who are saying I'm putting myself out there. The energy, there's part of the energetics in marketing and business that you have to release the outcome right, and I find an active way to do that is to vision and try to embody that future. You so with this homework that I'm going to share with you. It's called future casting. So what you'll want to do is take out a journal, or maybe even if you're not a journaler a lot of people are resistant to journaling You're taking a walk on the beach or you're somewhere where you can do a little bit of closing your eyes and envisioning, but I want you to spend time really envisioning a version of yourself that is either a self-managed seven-figure business or a six-figure business where you can take all of August and December off. Whatever it might be to you. What is that desire? Really tune into that, get clear on what that desire is and then start to envision who she is, what she looks like, right, what is she wearing, where is she sitting?

Meh O'Neill:

When I do this for myself, I always see myself at a house on the beach, in a kitchen, living room combination with huge windows that are open the ocean, air is blowing in and I'm looking out on the ocean and I can just feel all the impact that I'm having on my people and my shoulders. Just relax, my nervous system calms down. So the goal of this is to get really clear on what it looks like, but also get really clear on the feelings that it brings to you, because the man there goes, my microphone, my ear is rejecting earbuds. Um, so the the goal and what helps in manifestation processes is getting your body to actually feel the feelings of achieving those goals Right. So if you do this, like share with us, like feel free to send us pictures of your journal If you want, it really helps also to speak these goals into existence. Um, you know, sometimes you just need a friend that well, you can put it out there too.

Chelsea Fournier:

So, yeah, and I think it's so worth taking the time to slow down and do that. I know in future, episodes like this is the episode of getting to know us and the podcast and you know what you can expect from the intuitive marketing podcast. But, going forward, we're going to try to keep these episodes super consumable, like under 30 minutes maybe closer to 20, giving you the chance to do that. We're also going to weave in specific examples of how we are bringing intuition into our own business or what it looks like for embodiment. We were going to cover something, but I think I'm going to save it for the next episode, just to have something to look forward to. And you know, above all else, we hope that you found this episode of the Intuitive Marketing Podcast as inspiration to help you bring the magic back into your own marketing. Our goal is for this podcast to be a compass in the chaos, and we know that you get bombarded with information, options and honestly conflicting ideas out there on the internet streets about what you should be doing.

Meh O'Neill:

Yeah, we hope you tune into the next episode where we're both going to be talking about really specific ways on how you can start making decisions in your business, but from your intuition, from a really grounded space, so that you can stop outsourcing your power and start pairing your vision for your business with the strategies that feel the most aligned.

Chelsea Fournier:

We'll see you on the next episode. See you.