Intuitive Marketing Podcast

#2: Trusting Your Gut: Business Insights from Within

Chelsea Fournier + Meg O'Neill Season 1 Episode 2

Unlock the secrets of building an authentic business by integrating intuition into your strategy. Have you ever felt a disconnect between different parts of your life and your professional persona? This episode promises to guide you in aligning your business with your core values, offering practical tips to incorporate intuition into daily practices. We reflect on how even visionaries like Steve Jobs have harnessed the power of intuition for success, making it accessible for both seasoned intuitives and newcomers to the concept.

Discover the delicate balance between intuition and strategic thinking. Through personal anecdotes, we explore the importance of listening to your inner voice with tools like meditation, muscle testing, and connecting with nature. Ignoring intuition in favor of external advice can lead to misalignment and feelings of inadequacy. We share our experiences of trusting intuitive connections with clients and viewing setbacks as opportunities for growth. Learn how to maintain trust in your intuition, even after facing challenges, and see how it can guide you to the right place.

Experience the unique journey of running a podcast, community, and agency without ever meeting in person. We'll talk about the importance of energy hygiene and clearing to stay grounded amidst the highs and lows of entrepreneurship. Our transparency and intentionality underscore the value of following intuition and open communication. From sharing tips on creating quiet moments in busy schedules to highlighting the necessity of seeing perceived failures as growth opportunities, this episode is packed with insights. Stay tuned for our upcoming solo episodes focused on visibility and content creation, and thank you for being part of our journey!

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Speaker 1:

What if there was a secret business strategy that they aren't teaching in all the business courses?

Speaker 2:

On this episode we're going to dive deep into how you can weave your intuition into your business and how to meet yourself where you're at with specific steps that you can take to strengthen your own authenticity. Hey there, friends.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Intuitive Marketing Podcast, where we ditch the bro marketing BS and bring you big sister vibes instead. I'm Meg.

Speaker 2:

And this is Chelsea, your new biz besties.

Speaker 1:

We met on TikTok in 2023. Fast forward to now and we have teamed up here to guide you through the wild world of marketing your business with heart and soul.

Speaker 2:

Are you feeling lost or overwhelmed, maybe unsure of your next steps, but you have a big vision of where your coaching, healing, speaking or writing career could be in the next five years, 10 years. Don't worry, we've got your back. We'll help you tap into your intuition, build a brand that lights you up and leverage proven marketing strategies to grow towards a six or even seven figure business in a way that won't make you cringe.

Speaker 1:

We're actually here to help you bring the magic back into your marketing.

Speaker 1:

Because marketing should feel good, not gross Grab your favorite drink, get comfy and let's get started. Welcome back. And hey, if you're new here, thanks for tuning in today and taking a leap of faith to explore how intuition and business can tie together, because it's not necessarily a mainstream topic and, megan, I want you to know that this isn't going to be just like straight woo-woo conversation. So, if you're like, I don't know where I fall on all this intuition stuff, what we want to think about is that bringing intuition into your business. It doesn't have to look a certain way, and I know for me, sometimes I've like excluded myself from thinking that I am an intuitive or that I follow my intuition, because I have this like beautiful persona of, like a goddess have felt the same exact way, exactly I. I think it really hit me when.

Speaker 2:

I was reading something about how into in businessmen are, so they prioritize their intuition, especially people like Steve jobs, like you think about the Apple products. They are so intuitive, even just some of the practices that they tout. You know men, business owners, who are not all they're not all men but creating quiet in there so they can really think and have these things come through. We need to bring that into our businesses as women as well. I think a lot of people do, but it's really important to have a conversation of what that looks like.

Speaker 1:

I agree, and so even whether you're here and you're like, ooh, I've been honing my intuition, I'm excited, this feels like a juicy conversation or if you're listening and you're like, hmm, I might be interested in exploring how intuition could come in.

Speaker 1:

Of course, we want you to start thinking about these episodes as kind of building on each other, and so in the last episode it was our first one, and so we shared about our stories and all kinds of other things. If you haven't listened, definitely go back to it. But we also gave homework on a concept called future casting, and Meg introduced this about really envisioning the future version of you and what you are doing and what it feels like, and really that full kind of embodiment of what will it look like to be you running the business at the level that you want. We encourage people to kind of like stretch their edges a little bit. I feel like maybe you hadn't been thinking about growing a business to six figures or seven figures. I'm curious if it helped you to expand what you're thinking, right, right, I would love to hear.

Speaker 2:

And there's just so many breadcrumbs within that future casting for what your intuition is trying to tell you. So, like I mentioned in the episode talking about what it feels like in my body when I do my future casting, it feels really relaxed and it feels like an ocean breeze. What is, you know? What is my intuition telling me? That I'm really craving that space, that quiet, that touch with nature, my intuition telling me that I'm really craving that space, that quiet, that touch with nature. Those are all things that are really important to listen to, but we tend to kind of say like not now, like I'm busy now.

Speaker 1:

I'll get to that one day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, and I think you know if you're, if you're listening in and you're like, well, maybe you're not up at night in the middle of the night, like I wish I had more intuition in my business, like that might not be what you're saying, but so many people come to both of us saying I wish I could build my business my way, or I wish it could feel authentic.

Speaker 1:

I feel like authentic, aligned. Those are big words that people come to me saying Like I just wish it could feel a certain way and I wish my business could be a better reflection of me. You know to feel like the whole version of what I want to be saying. And so if you're feeling out of like congruence and or you can see yourself saying either of those, even if you're not necessarily thinking about honing your intuition as being the solution, we want to start to kind of introduce that concept for you, mm-hmm, we want to start to kind of introduce that concept for you, because when there's a desire for authenticity in your business, it most likely means you are compartmentalizing parts of yourself.

Speaker 2:

Right, there's a professional version of you and then there's the mom version of you, or whatever it might be, but we really have this desire to to present as who we are, especially as online business owners. There's many of us that want to show the different parts of us, but somebody said, no, no, you should keep that part hidden away, or that was the message that we received. So how can we use that desire as a kind of message from our intuition to get in to a place that feels really, really authentic and good and feels easy to show up as all parts of yourself?

Speaker 1:

I love that. So Meg and I are each going to share a little bit of a story because we actually have maybe yin to the yang of how we kind of introduced or blending the sides of us that are more intuitive with business. And at the end I think we'll also share kind of how we came together, because there's a lot of intuitive threads there as well, which will be really fun. So stick around till the end. But for me, you know, I my background was as a lawyer and then I was involved in startups and then I was getting into business coaching and direct sales, and so I've always been much more like business forward. You'll hear that in some of my solo episodes I'll tackle some of the like things you got to know and my spiritual awakening which I don't think this is that out of the ordinary, especially in kind of our generation of mothers my spiritual awakening really began as I stepped into motherhood. I feel like it just cracked me wide open to really face who I am and who am I leading this family energetically and, you know, personal healing really came to the forefront. So I had been someone who would maybe almost chronically over-invest in courses or coaching or programs and I kept just wanting to find that silver bullet that like, oh my, you know, I'd read a sales page of someone's course and be like this is speaking to me and this is going to be it, the answer, and I feel like the thing I'm doing wrong will become, oh, you know, become aware of that. And so, instead of over-investing in courses, teaching, learning, I started to prioritize my healing journey. You know, I'll become aware of that. And so, instead of over-investing in courses, teaching, learning, I started to prioritize my healing journey. You know, breath work, microdosing, you know trauma healing, brain spotting and really started to, in my schedule and in our budget, prioritize actually getting to the root cause of things for me. And what I started to find surprised, surprised me that downloads and messages just started coming through, and it might've been that I was so hectic and so protective of so many parts of me that I wasn't hearing or I wasn't allowing, and for me, I was running a business at the same time. But I would kind of get some of these downloads or these ideas, these pings, whatever you want to call them, and it wouldn't always make sense. I'd be like, okay, well, I got this. You know word that came through in meditation a line what's that mean? Is it the name of a program? And then, like I would just get really curious and I would feel like over the next week or so things would start to line up for it to make sense. And then, you know, I just kind of had the next thing that led to the next thing, that led to the next thing.

Speaker 1:

But for me, becoming involved in human design was super helpful for me to really start tuning into my authority or decision making strategy. I started to really see it as deconditioning. Yeah, typically for me, I think human design was helpful for the fact that I used to be in comparisonitis, a lot of like that. You know that girl went through a similar certification program. Why is she further ahead than me? I'm posting content every day. Why is her account taking off? And I feel like getting in touch with human design. At that point in my healing journey it was like, well, of course I'm the only one that's meant to be doing this and to be doing it my way, and so I think something really came together for me fairly recently this was in the last year or so.

Speaker 1:

I had signed up into a membership and there was a seven figure earner like running this business, who's had successful businesses and lots of different ventures, and so I was on a hot seat coaching with her Successful businesses and lots of different ventures and so I was on a hot seat coaching with her and I just felt like the questions that I was bringing were very deeply coming from my intuition. I had like a vision of how I wanted things to unfold in my business and because it wasn't the cookie cutter way that she had been successful, it was almost like she didn't know how to coach me through that. It was almost like she she didn't know how to coach me through that. Yeah, and I remember asking that you know what you're saying makes sense if that was my goal.

Speaker 1:

But if my vision is this how would you recommend I take action? And I could just tell that she wasn't necessarily a powerful coach to help me unlayer, that. It was more like hey, do what I did because it's been successful. And in that moment it was the first time that someone who was successful had been telling me to do something and I was like, wow, this is it's time for me to leave this room. I literally left the Zoom room and I stopped showing up to those membership calls and it wasn't anything against her I think she's super lovely but I was ready to start listening to my intuition and, in fact, launching. You know, if you follow us, Meg and I both have kind of our separate brands and then we have the agency and some of the things that we do together and launching the agency for me. From the beginning I kept saying this is like 80, maybe 90% intuitive guidance driven.

Speaker 2:

You did, you said that yeah.

Speaker 1:

Most of the decisions I made were made with a pendulum, muscle testing meditation, in an Epsom salt bath, on a walk on the beach.

Speaker 1:

And yes, I attribute like I have been successful in other businesses, so I'm thankful that I have a strategy brain. But it was just so much trust, like the people, the connections they were unfolding. I would show up in a room you know somebody would be like, oh my gosh, I was looking for someone exactly like you and it's like the only time ever that I went into that networking call. There were just so many things that I was like, okay, this is a sign I'm going in the right direction and just really exploring those threads with curiosity. Yeah, like I was very business forward, stumbled into the intuitive path, really did get dedicated to healing and even honing my intuition. I did go through an intuitive development program and I've just been really curious about like what's the next, who's the next person to guide me, to deepen my gifts. But even before I started thinking about how it impacted my business, I know it was Exactly, it was leading you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's awesome and I think I've gotten to see a lot of behind the scenes of businesses where people didn't follow their intuition and they ended up miserable.

Speaker 2:

So I was in a coaching program where I was able to meet a lot of people that made a lot of money and were trapped, and it was because they were constantly listening to what other people said and they were connected to their intuition.

Speaker 2:

So that was a really good example for me and I think I come back to that a lot Because I started a little bit differently. I was a stay at home mom who started my business not out of necessity, out of desire for just, you know, wanting to do something besides being a stay-at-home mom. So I was able to start slowly and able to just. I didn't have a lot of pressure around me, it was kind of like just putting out there and I had been in direct sales as well and creating video online a lot and felt really comfortable with that. So I again was kind of just following the next right thing and trusting myself. At the same time, I was doing a lot of deconditioning and healing work and growing my intuitive practice and whenever I am doing something that I really like, or is like, helping my life.

Speaker 1:

I'm usually sharing it online with people just because I love to talk about it and I love.

Speaker 2:

So I organically kind of started falling into you know well. Well then, will you do Reiki for me, or would you do a reading for me? Would you do a yoga class for me? And that's kind of how I would say yes and yes to the next right thing and built my business that way. Yeah, but at the core, I was always listening to what felt good or what was coming up as like. Well, why does this person, you know, keep coming into my life? There's a reason for this and saying yes to that.

Speaker 2:

So as my business grew, I grew fairly quickly and started making money quickly, and that's when I stopped listening to my intuition.

Speaker 2:

I kind of didn't trust myself to handle that level of making money and I started looking for people who had done it with more strategy and that kind of left me feeling less than and feeling like, oh, I didn't know enough. So it was a call to kind of come back and say, well, how am I going to build this in a way that really allows me to trust myself and use my intuition, especially like there's a lot of times where I will feel a connection to a client or not and I have to trust like that it's meant to be. I don't often do a ton of follow-up because I really, really trust that like we're connected to the right people at the right time and I trust that their intuition is going to lead them to. I think that's a very empowered place to be as a coach. To trust that not using a ton of pain point. Marketing for people that, like trusting them to make decisions, is very empowering over time.

Speaker 2:

So I continue to to hone those skills, just like you, to get you know, to always lead um our business endeavors from from that place, cause I think it's all. It's never perfect, but it's always going to be right, like it's always going to lead you to the right place.

Speaker 1:

I think that's really important, because I think maybe it's in that same vision for me of like, oh, the flowy pants, the crystal, like I almost envisioned that, oh, if I was fully embodied, fully intuitive, like I wouldn't have any bumps in the road.

Speaker 2:

I actually don't know. No, no, no, yeah. Yes, I have seen some hot mess expressed behind the scenes.

Speaker 1:

But I think I've come maybe to a place of maturity in business and life, but I'm not sure. Just to see the bigger picture and oftentimes if there's something that went quote, unquote, wrong, to really just get curious of like okay, well, I felt like all of the yeses I said yes to were really full body yeses and so just because the result isn't what I thought like, it doesn't mean it's a failure.

Speaker 2:

Right right.

Speaker 1:

Exactly it is. Do you ever feel like we didn't really talk about this beforehand, but do you ever feel like, if you made a couple full body yeses in a row and then some of them blow up in your face, do you have a hard time trusting? Like? A couple of years ago I made some hiring decisions and like they felt like such full body yeses and then it was like no, this is not, like she's not the right person, this is not feeling great and I feel like I was really beating myself up about it. But now I can look back and kind of see some lessons. But do you ever get into a place of like can I even trust this? Can I trust myself?

Speaker 2:

It's funny because I want to say, oh yeah, I get into that place. But if I'm really truly being honest, I don't often get into that place and I think our partnership is a great example of that. Like I've said to Chelsea, like you know, we're, we're, we keep just saying yes to the intuitive nudges, right. And I said I one time brought it up with Matt and I said to my husband you know, is this a good idea? Like we haven't even met in person, we haven't even met in person. And then I stopped myself and I was like no, it is. And if everything blew up the next day, I was going to be okay with that because, like in this moment, it feels so right and I don't know how, I don't know why I live my life like that. But that's a lot of how I live my life.

Speaker 1:

I feel like the more I feel the same way and I feel like the more I've been on this path, the more I can just appreciate the silver lining, the lessons, the excitement of the journey. To be like this feels right now and I can look, I'm thinking about that specific hiring and now I can see that she's evolved completely and I'm like, oh, maybe she was the right person, but not where we were at the time or something. Maybe we had to connect other than like specific goals we had.

Speaker 2:

I do get to the point of being like angry of the mess sometimes, like I won't say that, like I will trust myself and trust that it's all right and happening. But I will get to the place of being like, oh, but why does it have to be so hard? Like that that that place I do, god, I have yeah, I can get pissy sometimes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, if you really want to trust yourself, it's about moving away from feeling stuck. I think so many women come to us and say I just feel stuck, I don't feel clear, and I think the the level of trust you can get to as you bring intuition more into your business, it gets to a place of like conviction, like it's not even just about clarity anymore. It's like I am convicted that this is going to work and so we're going to share some like specific practices that we encourage. If you're sitting here saying like I need a little bit of guidance, but I think the biggest advice that I can give is just this curiosity of like if I were to grow my business and tap into my intuition, what would that look like?

Speaker 2:

Right, where would that start?

Speaker 1:

Like starting open-ended questions to yourself and whether you speak to the universe, higher self, god, whatever your background is, I think the more just, curious and open-ended you can get, and even posing intentions for the day of like what am I meant to stumble into today? Who? Am I meant to talk to today? What? Are the breadcrumbs that I'm supposed to be aware of today, because everything is connecting you, you know, to something else.

Speaker 2:

And I think it's important too to do that for your audience, Like trust that when you see it, you know something only only quote, unquote has a hundred views that it's going to land for the right person too. I think, like, if you can, if you can approach your business in that way, you have there there is a sense of ease that comes along with it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so there are. We're going to go through three specific ways that you can start to bring your intuition into decision-making, because being a business owner like 90% of being a business owner is making an effing ton of decisions. So, like how can you bring this embodiment, this intuition, into your decision-making and into growing your business and your brand? So Meg's going to kick us off for the first tip.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the first one that we have is like making sure that you have some space for quiet. So you have to have a way where you can sit and sit with the quiet and really learn to trust your intuition and learn how your intuition communicates with you too. Like I get gut feelings, like I get actual feelings in my body, and I think it's like important to recognize like we have an array of people in our audience moms, you know, people who might not, who might have full-time work, that are also building a business. So this doesn't have to be a 40 minute quiet practice.

Speaker 2:

Like oftentimes my intuition comes most to me in the shower because that's where no one's chirping at me, and I even bought that waterproof paper to start taking notes in it.

Speaker 2:

So, fun, yeah. So I think that's, you know, a place where you can just like. I used to also tell a lot of new moms too that when I felt like I could get no quiet, the best thing to do was to put my kids in their car seat and not turn my car on yet, but just sit and take three deep breaths and ground myself. Picture the roots of a tree leaving my bottom, like leaving the car. Um, it would really shift the day for me, cause I knew that they were safe and I would be able to breathe.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that, yeah, well and. I think it's so hard. You know it's easy to say take time, be allowed for quiet, and you know we're both neurodivergent and have neurodivergence in our little ones, and so it can be hard to carve that out. And so what are some signs? Because you know that you and I hold each other accountable to this sometimes and so what are some signs that it's time to like, prioritize that time for quiet?

Speaker 2:

If you feel like you're just acting like a robot in your business, that you're just doing checking all the boxes, like I'm just doing this, this and this and don't have that space for creativity, like that's a sign you need to get back to quiet, um consuming too much of what other people are saying, like saying, well, this person told me that I have to, but this business person is doing this. Or if you find yourself like constantly scrolling what are.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what kind of?

Speaker 2:

programs.

Speaker 2:

Are other people doing like and once you're doing that, it's so much better, so much right than I could, right, you have to just get quiet, um, and then also that feeling of you know your message is right on the tip of your tongue but you can't like clearly get it out. You're like, oh, I want to do this program for people and it's going to be about being aligned, and you're like I have it here, but it's not completely. Spending some time just quiet, listening to letting other words pop up. Using time to journal like that, that is really can be incredibly potent.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, and our second tip is I think Meg and I both spoke about this in our stories is flexing the muscle, and it's really the muscle of trust and action. I think it's building that bridge of faith that, okay, you get quiet and you start to hear some words or you start to remember a name that you should follow up with and maybe these things are coming into your field. But if you aren't willing to take action on the nudges or those intuitive hits, that's when you can still feel, I think, really stuck. I picture my intuition as being like either a rebellious toddler or a defiant teenager and it's like, well, if you're not going to listen to me, I'm not going to talk to you, right, and so maybe you know some examples, just little things. Even if you're like I don't want to make a huge business decision right away on this, it feels a little bit scary.

Speaker 1:

Little things, like I remember when I was trying to decide where to host my email and website. I wanted to have an all-in-one and I logged into two systems on their free trials, logged into one and was like I'm not going to dive into bazillion YouTubes, like I just want to see when I open it, how do I feel? Do I feel overwhelmed, do I feel excited? And I literally made my decision based on that, to decide which platform we were going to use in the agency. And you know, it could even just be small things like am I going to do a reel today or am I going to do? How am I meant to?

Speaker 2:

bring my message.

Speaker 1:

I love that yes, or you know just, I think for me it's asking those open-ended questions or giving myself a this or that, yeah, and I think that really comes back to human design. For me. I'm a sacral, so it's like this or that or yes or no. Questions are super helpful for me. But if you have other ways of knowing how you best make decisions, like asking yourself questions, like my husband is a projector and so he's an emotional authority and I'm often like what would it feel like for you to do X, Y or Z, and we'll get the juices flowing for him.

Speaker 2:

I love that. I used to say if this is like the right next step, let me see a hawk and then I would say hawk, I love you, like I would ask for the sign, and that's a great way to practice, like you know, if you're supposed to buy the green car or the red car, like, show me more green cars. And I think it trains our brain to say, like this is how we're communicating with the world.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2:

So the third step, the third tip for you, would be to not get overwhelmed. So, whether you have you know, whether you have one step in front of you or you, it's just take that step, like, just start exploring. Um, don't think that you have to completely change your identity because you are going to. You know, use more intuition in your business. It's something that I got caught up in and for a long time I felt people kept telling me to have my messaging be a certain way and I felt I had to look a certain way to do that, and that didn't feel true to me, like, so I it felt overwhelming because it I felt I had to look a certain way to do that and that didn't feel true to me. So it felt overwhelming because it felt like I had to change who I was. That's just simply not true.

Speaker 2:

No matter where you are right now, whether you're still a lawyer or a doctor, or you're running a coaching practice, you can be exactly who you are and just adding little bits of intuitive practices in, and you know there's just very simple ways to do it. Start with something like meditation. If you don't like meditation, it could be more of a movement meditation. You could be walking in nature, like that's very intuitive and something that we most of us have access to. Journaling something that we most of us have access to journaling.

Speaker 2:

Another great tip that we both have from being into it in intuitive training programs before, is keeping a notebook and being purposeful about writing down where you saw your intuitive nudges lead you and you know, having a document, that oftentimes our logical mind needs to go back to something tangible and say, oh wait, this is real, like I did this and that happened right. So have that for those times where you're like, oh, this is nonsense Again, like we talked about asking for signs and taking conscious note of it. And then also, I think a great tip is to find other people that do business this way, and because it's not your typical way and you know going to your typical networking events is not going to most likely lead you to a ton of intuitive business owners. It might wherever you are, but you can start doing business in a different way because of the people you're surrounded with.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2:

That's you know why we have our intuitive business community too, so join us there, because it is a group of other people who are doing business this way and who are going to help guide you to listening to your intuition when you're making these big business decisions.

Speaker 1:

Well, and you know, just to kind of close out, I think it's fun just to share a little bit about our story because we, we are fully embodied in this. Are we perfect? No, are we messy and in the muck of figuring out how to be in business and in relationship? And following our intuition, I would say yes. So we actually met on TikTok. I don't even remember Sarah Weiss might have put your account on my radar or just been like I don't remember if I just stumbled across you or if someone kind of commented on you and then yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1:

I was intuitive business mentor over on TikTok and I don't remember which one of us was like I feel like we should have a call. Do you want to just like brainstorm? We were not pitching each other anything. No, what are you doing? What's your? What's your jive, what do you, what's your focus? And from the beginning I remember us being like there's gotta be some way we can help each other. We're both have so many of the similar like overlap. Yeah, what was your read when we first started networking? I know we've had like a little bit of support for each other, like you hired me to do some strategy and I leaned on you for some content support. But when I sent you a message, I remember I was doing a lot of hypnotherapy work around the topic of making magic or yeah magic, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, and I remember just feeling really bold after a hypnotherapy session to be like I'm gonna message Meg and ask, ask her if, like, if we could do something together instead of just like helping each other separate. And I remember typing it and being like this might be an out like out of the wall or off the wall question or something, and you were like I love off the wall question.

Speaker 2:

I do, I certainly do. I'm like down for all the awful, but I remember hearing you say that and then feeling like, well, I'm going to ask something bold back and be like, if we're going to do this, I want to do this like together, like people, and I had never said and I I had been honest with you too. I have had many, many people in the past say to me that they want to do stuff with me, and I love that and I love that I give off that vibe. But like I can't do something with everybody and I've never had that, I don't often have the intuitive hit to say, yeah, yes, that's the person that I'm going to do something with. So it was very I'd actually kind of like shook me a little bit because I was like, oh my gosh, wow, I feel like I want to do something with her.

Speaker 2:

It's going to be like a thing, this feels different. That's so weird. So you know it's. We are like talk about being embodied.

Speaker 1:

We have you know, we're running this podcast and a community and an agency and we haven't met in person we yeah, it's all felt like so many synchronicities, so many signs, so many like oh my gosh, I didn't know you were doing that the same day that I am and we hadn't talked about it Like just little things and just knowing how intentional you are about your own energy hygiene and energy clearing and just like connection to it just feels like we're able to make decisions we were talking about this a little while ago able to make decisions from a really grounded place.

Speaker 1:

I think something a lot of entrepreneurs struggle with is the entrepreneur rollercoaster, right, the high highs, the low lows and I feel like in this relationship and also just in the season of my I don't know being an old fart doing business right, Like I just feel like I can have the perspective more. Yeah, Be like okay, this is all feeling great, and if it doesn't, we'll be adults and talk about it, but like I don't see that happening and so it's just really fun, I think, to bring these conversations around, following your intuition while we're doing it and being so transparent about it. So thank you.

Speaker 2:

We'll always, you know, show you what's going on behind the scenes for us. So, but we really hope that you enjoyed this episode and that you were able to take something away from it. We would love for you to share what your favorite tip with us. You know, send it to us over on Instagram and make sure you tune in for my first solo episode. Next it it's gonna be all about visibility and creating content.

Speaker 1:

That's gonna be fun. So I'm excited that we're doing a lot of these episodes together and then you'll get some that are just Meg, some that are just me. Maybe once in a while we'll bring on guests, and so I'm excited to like listen to your episode, because I know I'll get a lot out of it and I won't be on it with you. You'll get to edit it too, right? Yeah, well, thank you for being here. We hope that you're finding value in the conversations that we bring and that you'll be here time and time again to come back.