[Saadia] BBC Shipping Forecast

From exercise, to sleep, to iOS 19 rumours!

The BBC Shipping Forecast can be heard at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qfvv/episodes/player

An async podcast by Saadia Carbis and Joshua Wold.

Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 0:22 Exercise
• 1:58 White noise
• 3:44 Passover camping
• 5:52 Complaining about iOS 19 rumours

Transcript

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Welcome to Async. This is a back-and-forth conversation between me, Saadia Carbis, and Joshua Wold. I'll be recording this episode, and you'll hear Joshua's voice on the next episode, or the last one, if you want to catch up on the conversation. I'm going to start with some follow-up topics from your last episode, Joshua. We continued the conversation, didn't we, about artificial intelligence. This has been an ongoing topic across so many weeks, covering both indifference and frustration and excitement, annoyance that it seems to be all anybody anywhere is talking about, and yet we can't stop talking about it either. This week, I think I want to talk about anxiety in AI. I don't know. There's not too much to say here. We have climate anxiety, right? That's been a big, hot-topic issue here in Australia. We're in an election campaign at the moment. Election, general election, you know, federal election is coming up. And one of the big sort of election topics is young people, and how does the government relate to young people? I can't count myself in that particular demographic, but mental health is a big issue for them. And chief amongst mental health concerns is climate anxiety. Well, what about AI anxiety? What about us old guys who all have white... Us old guys with white-collar jobs who are worried about AI? I think that that's... I mean, it's got to be already termed, right? AI anxiety. How long until AI comes for my job? I think I do feel a healthy amount, or an unhealthy amount even, of AI anxiety. It's interesting, because if you had have asked me three months ago, I'd have, you know, maybe out of unjustified sense of indifference, I might have passed it off as nothing. But these days, that's not the case. But we talked about taste. And I think taste is the perfect word for understanding the right working relationship between ourselves and artificial intelligence. We don't want AI to come and just start doing the job, not because we want to keep our jobs, but because it's not going to do a good job. It's going to be bad at it. We need our experience. We need our understanding. We need our context. And we need our taste. It's all about taste. And so, I think that's fine, right? That could be a really healthy working relationship with artificial intelligence. You empower creative people with artificial intelligence to produce high-value work at a high rate of productivity. But the problem is that maybe executives don't exactly get it. Maybe, you know, like we understand that the taste is the key to the conversation. But does your boss get that? And if you try to tell your boss, is that going to come through, really? Or is it just going to come across as, don't fire me, please? I don't know. We talk about, last week you put your capitalist hat on and introduced me to the capitalist side of you. And you talked about value created. And that makes sense. But you can talk about value created all you want. But if you really, truly have that capitalist hat on, then value isn't the only part of the equation. The other part, and perhaps more important part, is cost. It's not about value. It's about value to cost ratio. Right? So, if AI is half the value of a human, which I think it is, or even less than, what's the cost, though, compared to a human? Maybe it's only a tenth of the cost. And, you know, if you've got your capitalist hat on, well, then that's worthwhile all day long. Half the value, but a tenth of the cost. You know what I mean? Of course, we're missing something there. We're missing that high end. We're missing the quality. But that's not how an executive will see it all of the time. And so, I think there's a justified case for having a certain level of anxiety when it comes to artificial intelligence. So, last episode that I recorded, two episodes ago, I challenged you to catch up with a friend. And when you did that, don't take any phone with you. Leave your iPhone in the car and take a notebook instead. So, I just want to make it clear. This is a serious challenge. Not that it's hard, but I actually want you to go do it. Joshua, that's your homework. See if you can find an opportunity to do that and report back. And if you're listening, this is also a challenge to you. I want you to go and leave your iPhone in the car and go and chat with a friend. If you're using an Android, then I'm not sure why you listen to this show. You're welcome. You're welcome to stay. But we talk about Apple stuff all the time. We're big Apple fanboys. So, I'm surprised. I'm glad you're here, though. And see how it goes. Leaving your Google phone in the car and report back. Topic I wanted to bring up this week is actually unplanned to have a little segue on from that. But it's completely macOS related, which is screenshots. So, I noticed, Joshua, that you share a screenshot or two with me. And I'm sure you're sharing screenshots all the time in your design job. And you always do it with this tool called CleanShot. And that's fine. I don't mind. I want to, like, I'll get this screenshot in a message or, you know, maybe some other way. And the first thing I want to do is look closer at it. So, I'll click on it. And in messages, I expect that it would expand out to its full resolution when I click on it. And it doesn't do that, actually. CleanShot is actually a link. You're sending me a link to where the file is uploaded somewhere online. That's fine. Today, I tried to drag a screenshot you sent me into ChatGPT. And it didn't work. Like, just not at all. It just failed silently. So, then I went to the URL that you sent and tried to drag it out of there. And that didn't drag either. So, I had to right-click and do other stuff and open a new tab with the image. And I could work with the image as I wanted. And I didn't like it. Normally, I'm not too fussed about people sending me CleanShot stuff. Although, I always do wonder about, like, the tracking and privacy aspect of that. But it's in the back of my mind. But it's no big deal. So, it got me thinking. Why? There must be a really good reason, I imagine, that you want to send people a link to an image instead of an image itself. Which, to me, seems like the more direct, straightforward, simple way to do it. I recently discovered, just while messing around, just specifically on this, like, why? Why would Joshua use CleanShot? And I was talking to your brother about it. And he said, oh, CleanShot copies it directly to the keyboard. And I discovered. And here's a tip for macOS users. You might hit Command-Shift-4 to take a screenshot. That's the default key combination. That's what I use. Now, then you have an option to drag an area. Or you can press the space bar to select a window. And when you release the key, release the mouse or the trackpad, it takes a screenshot. Great. If you hold down the Control key while you're taking that screenshot, then it doesn't save to your desktop or your downloads folder. I changed my setting to the downloads folder. Instead, it just copies directly to your keyboard. So it's really easy to take a screenshot, have it directly go to your clipboard, and then paste that wherever you need it as an actual image instead of a URL. Really easy. You should try it. Anyway. So I'm just wondering. I think that the screenshots feature in macOS is amazing. The built-in functionality is so rich. And the interface is really easy to use. It's beautiful. It's simple, but still contains a lot of options, which is, you know, the holy grail when it comes to design. And I'm just curious why you choose to use something different. All right. By the way, this week, I switched my Logitech MX2 mouse for an Apple trackpad. It's taking a bit of getting used to. And I think I'm going to like it better. I think I've already been using gestures even without realizing it. But I do find that getting, I'm not very accurate with the pointer just yet. Hopefully that improves. And also my fancy Logitech keyboard for an Apple keyboard, magic keyboard. And the fingerprint sensor in that is amazing. I wish I had done it long ago. I just thought you might be interested. I don't know why I'm telling you. If you have any tips, Joshua, or listeners on getting more out of the Apple magic keyboard and trackpad, then I'd love to hear them. Wanted to finish with a bit of a bookend on the story that I told you last episode about the kids who have been staying with us. There's a resolution that is in progress, but there is a resolution. We decided in the end to have a hard conversation with the mother. And it was awkward and confrontational. And we really didn't want to, but we did. And we basically told her that she's being a bad mom. And it felt a bit judgy. But also, the kids, like, they needed her so badly. And we told her she needed to come home. And so, then she told us that she didn't have money for flights to come home. Anyway, so, long story short, we suggested that she borrows it from someone. And she managed to get someone to lend her some money. And she's on her way back now. And we'll be reunited with the kids on Thursday. Is this horrible for me to say? Like, I feel like, you know, when I'm talking about someone else, especially to other people, when they're not present, and it feels like I'm doing that now, I really try hard to make sure everything that I'm saying, I would be comfortable saying in front of them. And so, I'm actually going to stop the story there. Just suffice to say that there's a resolution. I think I might have actually overshared on this particular topic. And because I guess I'm not sure she would be comfortable with me having publicly announced that on a podcast. I've intentionally, of course, kept her name private. But do you think I should have maybe not? Maybe this should have been a private conversation. What do you think? You were talking about therapy in the last episode. And I have given therapy a go a couple of times. But it never really stuck for me. I don't know. I don't want to be one of these people who's like, therapy, that's for weaklings or, I don't know, you know, the boomer or perhaps the generation before that, the great generation. What is it? Whatever it is. But I am a bit like that. It's not for me. I don't mind if other people, I don't judge other people for going to therapy at all. But it just didn't work for me. And I just, I don't want to. So there's that. But the one or two times I did go, I probably went for about six sessions in my life of therapy. And there was one concept that I did sort of pick up and managed to incorporate into my life. And just hearing you talk about therapy in the previous episode, it made me think that it's actually a pretty foundational aspect of my life. And I don't have a snappy title for this concept. But the basic idea is that you find the things that really fill you up, you know, and find the things that train you, whatever. Like, yeah, work is work. You got to do work. It's going to train you. But find the things that fill you up. And it's not time with the family or playing with the kids because that's, I mean, maybe it is for you, but that's not what it is for me. I love spending time with the family. I love playing with the kids, but I feel tired after I do that. And so the thing that is just for me and nobody else, and I'm happy to do it on my own, happy to do it in a group, is playing music, guitar, playing bass. Piano lately has been really my focus. And, you know, just sitting on the drums for 20 minutes. It is a really nice sort of context switch and a nice refill. And so I try to do that for, you know, maybe an hour a day, but not all in one go, just like in between tasks as sort of like little fillers to help me switch context. I'm curious what it is for you. I imagine it's probably running, probably jogging or maybe writing. I'm looking forward to your conversations podcast, by the way, that you talked about in the previous episode. I think that the title should be friend of the show. I think that's a great title and I hope you go with that. But whatever the title is, I'm looking forward to being a listener and maybe even if you'll have me a guest.