The Raynham Channel
Welcome to Raynham Community Access & Media (RAYCAM), where we engage, learn, and create community access media. We are dedicated to providing a platform for all voices to be heard and shared. Join us in creating a vibrant and inclusive media community.
The Raynham Channel
Planning Board 1/2/2025
(Episode Description is AI generated and may be errors in accuracy)
Join us as we navigate the Raynham Planning Board meeting, where board members tackle this question head-on. The night’s main topic revolves around proposed zoning amendments, with a keen focus of which aims to strengthen the legal standing of site plan approvals by transitioning to special permits. We dissect the nitty-gritty of procedural changes, including the shift from a two-thirds vote to a simple majority for bylaw adoption, highlighting recent legislative influences.
Moving beyond these procedures, we dive into the community's character with proposed changes. We analyze new definitions, size restrictions, and parking requirements, all designed to align with state mandates while preserving the neighborhood's charm. Moreover, discussions heat up around property ownership regulations and their potential impact if state rules change. We touch on everything from sewer connections to flood hazard protection updates, underscoring the collaborative efforts with the Department of Conservation and Recreation. Join us for this comprehensive session as we unravel the complexities of local governance and community planning, aiming to balance progress with tradition.
https://www.raynhaminfo.com/
Copyright RAYCAM INC. 2024
6 o'clock to me. Okay, we're on the air Opening the planning board. Rainham planning board meeting July 2nd 2025. January 2nd, I mean January 2nd.
Speaker 1:Thank you, matt. These old guys can't read as good. The meeting's televised on Comcast channel 98 and Verizon channel 34. I'm Chris Gallagher. I'm the chairman of the board, to my rights vice chairman Matt Andrade, my left is member Burke-Fountain and to his left is Member Brian Oldfield. The first thing we have is minutes for November 21st and December 19th. December 19th not ready yet. So the minutes of November 21st I know Burke has reviewed them, so I entertain a motion from someone.
Speaker 5:I make a motion that we waive the reading and approve the minutes of November 21, 2024, and that we table the minutes for December 19, 2024.
Speaker 1:Okay. Does anyone get a second on that?
Speaker 5:Second.
Speaker 1:Any discussion. All in favor, aye, aye, okay, the next three things coming up zoning amendments that are 601, 605, and 615. The way we run the hearing is, you know, I hand it over to Matt. Matt is acting as clerk tonight.
Speaker 1:Matt Andrade, He'll read the public notice. Once he's read the public notice, if I have any comments I comment. Then I hand it over to the members of the board for any of their comments. Then it comes up for discussion. Um, then it comes up for discussion. Um, first thing I do is hand it to our planner and zone enforcement officer, barb. I afraid he's going to give a brief synopsis of what each article is, because these are all supposed to be for the wasth. January 14th special town meeting. Bob will give the synopsis of each article when he's done. If any of the board has any questions, they'll pipe up. If not, I'll hand it over to anyone in the public, over to anyone in the public and you know, by a show of hands you'd be allowed to come up to the podium, state your name and and speak on the on for or against the article or if there's any suggested changes.
Speaker 4:So the first one, 601, is the public hearing for a zoning amendment special permit for site plans, and so Matt has to read the public notice before we can commence in accordance with the provisions of MGL chapter 40 a, section 5, the rain and planning board will hold a public hearing on Thursday, january 2nd 2025 at 6 o 1 at Raynham Veterans Memorial Town Hall, 5 558 South Main Street, on proposed amendment to the Rainham Zoning Bylaws as follows Amendment Article 13, section 350-13-2. Projects requiring site plan approval, by adding the following All site plans require a special permit. The planning board will be the special permit granting authority SPGA. For all site plans require a special permit, the Planning Board will be the special permit granting authority SPGA. For all site plans, the SPGA shall consider the issuance of a special permit subject to the requirements of section 13 of the rain ham zoning bylaws okay now, this was an article I've been wanting to do for a couple years now.
Speaker 1:When we grant site plan, we're granting site plan approval, but it kind of means next to nothing because we're just granting an approval, we have an appeal period, there's nothing to appeal, and it ended up going to court on a site plan getting appealed and when it came down to the judge it was actually Walmart. They said there's no permit to appeal, you can't appeal until there's a permit. So by granting site plan approval through special permit, which is how it's done in most towns, it's according to special permit mass general law, so it has much more teeth for our approval or denial, our conditions and if anyone's going to appeal. So it's more of a cleaning up, something that should have been cleaned up a while ago and we've been talking about it and Bob put the article together to make it happen. So, yes, I'll ask. Any of the members have any discussion on it? Matt?
Speaker 4:no, I mean we talked about it at length.
Speaker 1:So Burke no, nothing right. No, bob, do you have anything, dad?
Speaker 3:no, just like you said you can't, did you did the layout like I was going to. In order to approve a permit or a site plan with conditions, it needs to be granted a special permit, just like Chris talked about. So it's pretty straightforward. It should have been written in the bylaw a long time ago. It was overlooked. Simply inserting it now so that the approvals do have teeth and any conditions you put on any approvals are under a special permit.
Speaker 1:Okay, thanks, bob. Does anyone from the audience have any comments? Questions, there's always one, okay.
Speaker 3:Greg Barnes, town administrator. Just to know on the warrant, it's Article 3.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you, Greg 605. If there's no other discussion on that, I'll move on to the next zoning amendment. Do we need to vote on this, or is it?
Speaker 5:just me. I think we need to make a recommendation to the town meeting.
Speaker 1:Okay, then entertain a motion for either positive or negative recommendation.
Speaker 5:I'll second that.
Speaker 1:I was entertaining the motion. I'm chairman, I'm not supposed to make motions, I so moved. Okay, do I hear a second discussion?
Speaker 3:yeah, discussion, yeah just for the record, the town water rate of one of you. Make sure that when you do vote on these to move them forward, that because of the voting requirement change, he wanted you to make note for the record that chapter 358 of the voting requirement change, he wanted you to make note for the record that chapter 358 of the Acts of 2020, that's when Charlie Baker changed some of the chapter 48 requirements In order for town meeting to adopt these bylaws, there no longer needs to be a two-thirds vote. It's a simple majority. So we'd like you to acknowledge that as part of tonight's discussion and it's going to majority. So we'd like you to acknowledge that as part of tonight's discussion, and it's going to be verified by town council, that what's going to be brought forward by the town moderator at town meeting on the 14th that all three of these votes are just a simple majority.
Speaker 1:So I think we'll recognize that subject to town council Saying okay on that. I don't think we have to vote on that or anything, right, you don't just acknowledge? Just acknowledge it, okay, and that same will hold true on all zoning articles here on in. Okay, the. If there's no more discussion, I'll move on to the 605 public hearing so Brian seconded it.
Speaker 1:Burke made the motion all in favor. Aye, that's a positive recommendation of town meeting 605. Public hearing is a zoning amendment, article 10 definitions a, you, which is additional dwelling unit, and article 6 ad use.
Speaker 4:That will read the public hearing notice in accordance with the provisions of MGL chapter 40 a, section 5, the rain him playing board will hold a public hearing on Thursday, january 2nd 2025, at 6 o 5 pm at Rainham Veterans Memorial Town Hall to consider the following amendments to the zoning rain him zoning bylaws. Amendment article 10 definitions. By adding definitions for the following accessory dwelling unit gross floor area manufactured home, short-term rental and principal dwelling unit all is described in the full text. Amendment article 6 regulations. By adding section 350-6, dot 16 accessory dwelling unit ADU as follows Definitions these definitions to be inserted into Article 10. Also Principal dwelling unit. Accessory dwelling unit, short-term rental, gross floor area manufactured home all as described in full text.
Speaker 1:Adus shall be permitted on all lots in single family use, subject to the following standards numbers 1 through 22 inclusive, as described in the full text okay, this, this is something the state's kind of stuffing down our throat and they're making us, every town, have a bylaw that allows these ADUs, but they're making them allowed by right. So if you meet it, you walk in and just get a permit. There's no special permit, there's no public meeting, there's nothing doing, and Bob's done a lot of work on this and we bounced back and forth through our members and other. You know people in town, you know Ken Collins, that selectman moves and, for you know, added to some of the changes and we've come up with something though we thinks pretty good. We can't overstep our bounds. They have to be allowed and we're limited on how much we can regulate.
Speaker 1:But we have to get a bylaw in, so at least we have something in. If we need to revisit it later, we will, but we think we're on pretty good ground on what we presented and we've all kind of been through it. I think I might hand it to bob first before discussion with you. Okay, you think that's okay? Sure, um, and then after bob we'll have planning board discussion, then after that we'll have public input but just for the record, uh, this is going to be article number two.
Speaker 3:At the special town meeting on the 14th we did review a lot of other towns' bylaws and these are all guidelines that people need to follow in order to construct or establish an ADU on their property. Matt's gone through the list of new definitions that will be inserted in the bylaw. I will do one by one. The guideline conditions that we came up with, which are now not numbered. They're numerically numbered instead of by number. They're actually at 22, I believe. When we started off at 26, we had to pull back because of the guidance we received from the state on some of the things we wanted to have done, but they were not going to be allowed. So if you'd like to go through these one by one, stop at the end, or you can stop in the middle if anyone has any questions on don't know how you want to handle it, but maybe go through all of them and then go back and take questions as as necessary I think that's what we'll do.
Speaker 1:Bob will go through, bounce it to the board members if they have any questions on anything um which we probably won't have much, because we've gone through a lot of this then the public this might be new to some and then it'll go to the public and see if they have any questions input. So we'll start going through the conditions right now all right, hey.
Speaker 3:An adu may be located in any single family house lot, either connected to an existing dwelling or detached. Multi-family structures are not eligible for adus. B not more than one adu may be established on a lot. The lot must contain a single family home as the principal structure and use. C the ADU shall be located to the side or rear of the principal dwelling, with a preference for placement at the rear of the property when space allows. D the construction of an ADU must comply with the state building code, title V of the state sanitary code and all other local bylaws and regulations. E an ADU shall be no bigger than 50% of the gross floor area of the existing dwelling or 900 square feet, whichever is less. F a minimum of one off one off street parking space shall be provided. G the building commissioner may issue permits authorizing the creation of an adu through a standard permit application process. H permit applications must include proper building plans and site plans. I no adu or principal dwelling shall be used as a short-term rental unit. J once an ADU has been added to a single-family dwelling or lot, the ADU shall not be enlarged beyond the square footage allowed by this section. K manufacturing homes are not allowed as an ADU. K manufactured homes are not allowed as an ADU. L properties with existing in-law apartments are not eligible for an ADU. M an ADU shall not contain more than two bedrooms or have more than one kitchen. N the ADU may not be sold or transferred separate and apart from the principal dwelling. The principal dwelling and the ADU shall remain in common ownership. O no occupancy of an ADU shall be allowed until a valid certificate of occupancy is issued by the building commissioner. P the ADU shall be designed to maintain the appearance of the principal dwelling and the character of the neighborhood.
Speaker 3:Q an ADU must be installed on a permanent foundation. R detached ADUs are limited to one and a half stories in height. S. An ADU shall not be allowed to be converted to a condominium. T no ADU is allowed permanent frontage. U. All plans submitted with permanent applications for an ADU must be drawn to scale and identify the principal structure on the lot. Principal structure on the lot. And. V. Permanent applications must include scales, drawings of the elevations and floor plans of the new structures. New structures shall be designed to blend in with the existing structures and use similar building and use similar building materials. So those are our conditions that we set forth. In our back and forth we had over the last few months, very similar to some conditions that we saw other towns implement.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm fine with those. I've gone through them back and forth with Bob and the other board members and other people involved. I'll ask Matt if he has anything to discuss on it.
Speaker 4:No, like we said, you know, it's really our job to try and put guidelines and, you know, some type of road markers, roadmap for this, because it's the state's mandate. So it's really our job to hopefully keep the rails on it from it spinning out of control.
Speaker 1:And our deadline was like they gave us a few month deadline. I think it's February 2nd or 3rd, 2nd 2nd. It goes into effect Whether we do a bylaw or not. That's why it's important to get something on the books to at least get it rolling. Burke, do you have anything on? It's important to get something on the books would at least get it rolling, burke do you have any anything on it?
Speaker 1:nothing to add right no okay, if anyone in the public wishes to speak on it recognizing, come up and state your name for the record and I, John Paul Carrera, and I have two questions.
Speaker 7:That that's okay. The first is does this new definition preclude one from applying for permission to build an addition?
Speaker 1:like an in-law addition to one's house. That would exceed the 900 square feet. The in-law addition law is still going to be on the books, so that would still stay on the books. Am I correct on that?
Speaker 3:Well, I don't think anyone's going to want to bill to the in-law addition requirements because they're smaller than the 900 square feet. Yeah, it's only 750. So I would imagine we're not going to be seeing in-law apartment applications. We're going to see applications for ADUs. So at this point we're not taking it off the books, but they'll be. You won't be able to go bigger than 900 square feet and you can't use the in-law department bylaw because it's only 750 and there's no in the end loss that you would have to do so.
Speaker 3:If you want to go bigger than 950 square feet, because it's a zoning bylaw, you'd have to ask zoning board of appeals to give you permission to go bigger than that, okay the second question is a stretch.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I said that might be a stretch and the difference with this is now you can just do this by right, you don't whether we're an in-law or as a special permit. So you can just go to the bill inspector and show your plans and you're in. So you can just go to the building inspector and show your plans and you're in.
Speaker 7:Gotcha. And secondly, is this structure allowed to have a basement or is it just the onslaught?
Speaker 1:It is actually, and there's a company called Buildex is really pushing these. They're trying to get in on the market right now and he's doing some in Plymouth and he's doing them with full basements. But you can't use that as habitable space if it exceeds the 900 unless you don't get caught.
Speaker 3:so the difference the difference between the in-law apartment that we have in place now is limited to 750 square feet. Has to be attached, has to be used by a relative okay, you have to register every year. So what this ADU bylaw allows you to go to 900 square feet does not have to be attached, to be detached, which we couldn't do before, because that's two structures on one lot and you can uh, you can rent it to anybody you want. You don't have to have a family. So it's a little bit less restrictive. It's not a special apartment, it's like chris said, it's by right I mean this isn't anything new in the state.
Speaker 1:this is something that's been going on in the cape and the islands forever, something that's been going on in the Cape and the islands forever. You know, by right, like Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard and some of the Cape towns, by right you can have Some of them, like in Nantucket, it's 80% of the size of the original dwelling, but you see a lot that do a home and a garage with an apartment above that type of thing. But I think the idea on this is to provide more housing.
Speaker 7:Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1:We're running out of hotels. I thought that changed with the election, though, but I can't talk about that stuff. I thought that changed with the election, though, but I can't talk about that stuff. Anyone else from the public?
Speaker 2:Pat Pat Riley, rainham. Resident member of the Board of Selectmen. I just want to thank the board and especially Mr Iafrate for doing this. I think these accessory units can certainly be of value to many of our residents, but without guidelines it could really have a negative effect on our name quits in our town. These seem very reasonable and very fair, so just thank you very much okay, thanks, bet anyone else, lorraine, if you could because I've never seen this before.
Speaker 6:I was just curious as to why just one off-street parking if it's going to be a two-bedroom.
Speaker 1:Do we?
Speaker 6:want cars parked out in the street and stuff.
Speaker 1:Because the state in their mandate that's part of their law. Okay, so that's in compliance to their law. So we can't exceed and say it needs two, okay, all right, you've got to be careful because this is going to go to the ag and they're going to look at the state law and you can't make it too restrictive where you more than what they have okay, and then I was manufactured homes, uh, uh, does that mean modular? Or I. It's manufactured like.
Speaker 6:A mobile home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that comes on, its like you know.
Speaker 6:So you could do a modular Wyman's in.
Speaker 1:Bridgewater, bermilla's in Rainham, right, they come on a frame, right, okay, On a trailer and you pop the tires off, put a skirt around them.
Speaker 6:Okay, and then I'm just curious as to why aren't properties with existing in-laws allowed for an ADU.
Speaker 1:I think the thought there is that you already are an ADU, but that's a good point.
Speaker 6:But I mean they're part of that one dwelling the in-law, and it's pretty small, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think it's kind of not letting them use it, I mean, that's you know, whatever I think and I'd have to see bob's opinion on this, but I'd imagine they could come in and apply for a permit for an adu and expand the in-law apartment okay does that be legit?
Speaker 3:they wouldn't be able to get an additional unit. If you have an in-law apartment, you already have an adu.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh, but I see what you did you?
Speaker 3:If you had a 750-square-foot in-law apartment and you wanted to make it bigger, you could go up to 900 square feet with just a building permit. But you cannot add an ADU onto a structure that already has an in-law apartment.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I mean, I just think depending on, because some people build a brand-new home with the in-law right away and they have, like you know, the in-law right away and they have two acres of land and they can't build an ADU just because they have an in-law. I think it's a little restrictive for them.
Speaker 1:That would be an interior ADU. You can have an ADU inside the house or you can have it separate. Okay.
Speaker 6:I'm not saying I'm for or against this, I just don't understand some of these. And then my last question is I thought that Pat Riley, I think, mentioned at the selectors meeting that they were also going to ask and maybe it's in here and I missed it that the owner must dwell on the property.
Speaker 1:You can't do that.
Speaker 6:You can't do that, so that opens up a big can of worms, vote Anybody coming in here and buying up land.
Speaker 3:So we can't do anything to restrict that State rule. It's not our rule.
Speaker 6:Yeah, we can Horrible. Okay thank you, yeah, restrict it Becky.
Speaker 8:Hi, becky Mello, 147 Carroll Drive. I have a few questions on this, just as far as like. If I mean I know you guys can't do anything, we can't do anything about it because Stan state mandated. But if all 351s, you know, two cities and towns ask for a repeal and this ends up reversing, how does house is going to affect the town?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go back for no reverses. If it reverses, you'd have to go to town meeting and remove that zoning okay, so in it.
Speaker 8:So it's not restricted to familiar families like families of the owner, obviously, at this point. Another thing is like subdivisions with restrictive covenants. I believe my subdivision has a restrictive covenants of only one dwelling per property, is that? I don't know how that would.
Speaker 1:I think that covenant might override it.
Speaker 8:The covenant would override the law, the state law. I think the law overrides the government yeah, I believe the law and then about, like in my neighborhood we have no sewer we where there's no tie-in available for us um, are they going to be digging up the street?
Speaker 1:are we taking up the streets for sewer?
Speaker 8:and then you have to um, if you didn't have sewer, you'd have to meet title five. If you didn't have sewer, you'd have to meet title 5 that was out of the second.
Speaker 1:The bylaw was that was. That was one of the bullet points in the bylaw we have to comply to.
Speaker 8:Basically, title 5 conservation bigger, bigger septic system to accommodate and also people with sewer. They're gonna have to have a separate stuff. We're tired. Probably that's kind of up for the suit.
Speaker 3:I'm assuming the problem will sign off on each individual application. Are they going to have to have a separate stub or tie into the same line? Probably that's kind of up to the Subdipartment.
Speaker 8:Subdipartment will sign off on each individual application Whether they feel that they need the separate stub or they can tie into the existing line. We'll be on a case-by-case basis. Okay, All right.
Speaker 1:I think that's all I have. Thank you, okay. Thanks, victor. Anyone else Back there? Thanks anyone else. Nobody else. You have anything? Okay? Hearing nothing else. Any further discussion from the board? Not hearing none. I'd entertain a motion to recommend or not recommend this bylaw.
Speaker 5:I make a motion that we recommend this bylaw to the town meeting.
Speaker 1:Hear a second Second. Any more discussion? All in favor? Aye, aye, okay. The next one is a 615, and we're there and it's public hearing and this was similar to the first one where it's more of a housecleaning thing. On the flood, it has to do with the flood hazard protection overlay district, article 8.
Speaker 4:Hand it over to Matt to read the public notice in accordance with the provision of MGL Chapter 40A, section 5, the Rainham Planning Board will hold a public hearing on Thursday, january 2nd 2025 at 615 at Rainham Veterans Memorial Town Hall to consider the following amendments to the Rainham Zoning By-law Amendment Section 350-3.3, blood Hazard Protection Oak Lake District, by deleting existing Sections A and B and replacing with proposed language as described in full. Amend Article 8, blood Hazard Protective Overlay District, by deleting the existing language and replacing with the proposed language as described in the full text. The complete text of the proposed amendments to the Rainham Zoning by, along with a copy of the Rainham zoning bylaws, are available for viewing at the town clerk's office and planning board office, 558 South Main Street, rainham, during usual scheduled business hours. The Rainham zoning bylaw and the proposed amendments to the Rainham zoning bylaws are also on the town of rainham's website. Any person wishing to be heard or interested in this matter should appear at the time of place designated. Rainham planning board.
Speaker 1:Christopher j gallagher, chairman okay now this is a cleanup article that you know bob went through bylaws and this is a cleanup article that you know Bob Afreide put together, so I'll let Bob explain it to you.
Speaker 3:So early in 2024, probably 10 or 11 months ago, greg and I had a meeting with a lady named Nadia Madden. She works for the DCR, the Department of Conservation and Recreation at the state. She came down to discuss our floodplain management process and in the process of those discussions she read our existing article and she found that it was deficient or it was old and it needed some cleanup work to bring some of the language up to today's standards. So I will not take any credit about the language in this article. It was recommendations made by this lady, nadia Madden, who works for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and she really did help us a lot, a lot of back and forth, a lot of things that she redlined for us to change. And I will also thank Greg, who formatted most of these articles to make them look like they're professionally made, and I just gave him scratch ideas and he put it together for us. So thank you for that.
Speaker 3:So basically, there's not a lot to discuss about this articles. Thankfully the town of Rainham is not impacted like some other towns with large floodplain districts, not floodplain areas. We have some floodplain adjacent to the Taunton River that meanders around the border of the community. But basically all the language in this article was language that was cleaned up and updated by the woman at the Department of Conservation and Recreation. We actually, when we finished it, we shipped it back to her for her review and her approval, and it's been approved by them to move forward and bring it to town meeting. I will bring one thing to your attention on this particular article. Unlike the ADU bylaw, the definitions stay within the article. They're not. They're not shipped out to the definition section of our current bylaw because they're so unique to this bylaw.
Speaker 1:The definitions stay in the bylaw okay, the only thing I'm gonna backtrack. Just to add, although we recommended a majority for each article for zoning, subject to it opinion, it probably wouldn't hurt at the town meeting. For John Dunneuton also recognize the vote was over two-thirds as well. I believe that's what he plans to do and that way it's covered. You know, but that's all. But does anyone on the board have any discussion on this article? Matt?
Speaker 4:I do not.
Speaker 1:Burke.
Speaker 4:I do not Roy.
Speaker 1:No, okay. Does anyone in the public have any input? Any questions?
Speaker 7:Greg Barnstown, administrator, just to reinforce it's article one of the town meeting warrant.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you, greg. Well, here, in no discussion, I'd entertain a motion for recommendation on this, whether it be positive or negative, at town meeting.
Speaker 1:I make a motion that we recommend the passage of this to the town meeting. I hear a second Second Any discussion? All in favor, aye, aye. Second Discussion All in favor, aye, aye. Okay, that's three zoning articles gone by the wayside. All we have left is some other business. Unless any of you guys want any questions for us, there's one outstanding old business, new business funds for 1900 Broadway project review. We have a negative balance and previous discussion it's recommended that we generally maintain a $5,000 balance on top of what's owed. Is that correct? On top of what's outstanding? So what's outstanding is $1,368. The account balance is $772. So we'll have to do the math of $1772, 1368 minus 772 plus 5,000 would be what we would recommend requesting from the 1900 Broadway applicant so we can get these bills paid. If anyone wants to do the math, we can do that later.
Speaker 5:I'm not an engineer.
Speaker 1:Okay. Does anyone want to make a motion to that effect? So the motion would be the outstanding bill is $1,368. The balance in the count is $7,7250. So it would be the request would be $1,368 minus $7,7250 plus $5,000. Which is I'll get Bob's mathematician now.
Speaker 3:You would need $4,400 to be deposited to maintain $5,000.
Speaker 1:Maintain $5,000, okay, so the motion would be to get I'm sorry, you need $5,400 to be deposited to maintain 5,000, maintain 5,000. Okay, so the motion would be to get.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, you need fifty five hundred and ninety six dollars. Okay, I was gonna say okay.
Speaker 1:So fifty five hundred and ninety six Dollars is what the request would be. So move, seconded any discussion, all in favor, aye, okay. So seconded any discussion, all in favor. Aye, aye, okay. So here's the signed bills in the minutes. Maureen, I'll leave that one sideways to figure that out. Uh, and the voices and bills were taken care of. Uh, planning coordinator update. You have anything, barb, I'll have something for the next meeting, okay, serpent t Tony's not here. Do we have any plans to be signed?
Speaker 1:no so I guess that leaves us at adjournment. Okay, second on that second and all in favor. All right, all right for adjourn.