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Planning Board 05/01/2025
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New leadership, critical infrastructure decisions, and commercial development took center stage at the Raynham Planning Board meeting this May. The board welcomed newly-elected member Pam Menconi while reflecting on outgoing member Matt Andrade's impact—particularly his work preventing 750 apartment buildings from rapid development during his five-year tenure.
The unanimous approval of the Greco Ford project at Zero Paramount Drive marked a significant milestone after months of review. With 13 necessary waivers addressing everything from stormwater management to landscaping requirements, the project exemplifies how developments must navigate changing regulations. Board members carefully verified that each waiver request matched the certificate of action, ensuring proper documentation for this commercial project within the Paramount Development area.
Behind the scenes, the financial mechanisms that protect taxpayers from bearing development costs became a focal point. Several projects including Layler Estates and Walmart faced account deficiencies that could hamper proper inspection and oversight. In unanimous decisions, the board required substantial deposits to maintain these critical funds. The more complex Doe Run subdivision case resulted in the conditional release of Lot 24, allowing completion of Ariana Way while requiring significant financial commitments from the developer.
Raynham residents received welcome news about completed projects and potential reuse of vacant properties. The gas station at 1023 Broadway received its occupancy permit after comprehensive inspections confirmed compliance with approved plans. More excitingly, the long-vacant Stop & Shop building has attracted buyers intending to revitalize the space—a significant win for Route 44's commercial corridor.
The constant tension between encouraging development while protecting infrastructure illustrated why these meetings matter. Every decision—from appointing Matthew Andrade as associate member to requiring proper review funding—shapes how Raynham will grow. For residents interested in participating in town governance, opportunities exist as illustrated by the discussion around associate member positions that had remained unfilled for years.
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We're on the air. It's the town of Rainham Planning Board, may 1st I believe it's May 6 pm. This meeting is televised live. You can watch it on Comcast Channel 98 or Verizon Channel 934. It's also videotaped and available some days later on YouTube, the rain ham channel.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna call the meeting to order. I'm Chris Gallagher. I'm the chairman. To my left is Burke fountain, to his left is Brian O'Field member, to my right Anthony Nicole. He's the clerk, and his right is a new member who won by a IT'S BRIAN O'FIELD MEMBER, to MY RIGHT, anthony NICOLI. He's THE CLERK. And TO HIS RIGHT IS A NEW MEMBER WHO WON BY A LANDSLIDE PAM MCCONEE.
Speaker 1:Menconee, and I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE BOARD. I THINK WE ALL SHARE THAT. The ONLY OTHER THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS YOU KNOW MATT ANDREID. I JUST WANT to say is no mad andre'd. I just want to thank him for his five years of service. He did a wonderful job. He gave a lot to the board. One thing, real notably, was how he handled the three-a zoning, who spent a lot of time outside the meeting and that could have led to 750 apartment buildings in a very short time in Rainham, and the way they put it to the Walmart's and kind of bailed us out for a while.
Speaker 1:But, that being said, the way I run a meeting we reorganize it I'm still the same. We'll vote to reorganize first, but typically the chairman does the talking on any topic, whether it's a public hearing, topic on the agenda. Then after he's done, he hands it individually to each member and then, after each member has had input, there can be a vote. Or, if it's a pro on a topic, if it's a public hearing, anything like that goes to the applicant first and then, after the applicant's done, back to the board, then open to the public and everyone has to, you know, go by a raise of hand, except board members. They get called on by me. But that being said, the first item is reorganization of the board. Do I have any motion for reorganization? I would like to make the motion to reorganize the board. Chris Gallagher, chairman Burke Fountain. Vice-chair. Anthony Nicoli Clark. Kim ANTHONY NICOLI CLARK. Pam MANCONI SERVED AT RUPP. Do I HEAR A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I'll SECOND THAT. Okay FOR DISCUSSION, just SO PAM KNOWS THE NEW PERSON GETS TO BE SERVED AT RUPP. That's FINE.
Speaker 3:AND THAT'S SELF-INVESTED REGIONAL. I LIKE THE TERM like gets to me.
Speaker 4:I don't really. That was me last year. I questioned that it's good, so you wouldn't be sitting there going.
Speaker 3:Are you getting me into it? No, it's good. I anticipated that.
Speaker 1:That's the southeastern regional planning. Tony just was the serpent rep, and now he's got history under his belt. Do I hear any discussion? Bert? No. Brian no. Anthony, any QUESTIONS? Burke BRYAN ANTHONY NO ANY QUESTIONS. Burke BRYAN ANTHONY. No ANY QUESTIONS. Burke BRYAN.
Speaker 4:ANTHONY. No ANY QUESTIONS. Burke BRYAN.
Speaker 1:ANTHONY. No ANY QUESTIONS. Burke BRYAN, anthony.
Speaker 5:NO, any QUESTIONS, burke BRYAN.
Speaker 1:ANTHONY. No ANY QUESTIONSTAND BURKE HAS REVIEWED THESE.
Speaker 2:I MAKE A MOTION. We WAIVE THE READING AND PLEASE THE MINUTES OF APRIL 3, 2025.
Speaker 1:DO I GET A SECOND? I'll SECOND IT. Any DISCUSSION, all IN FAVOR. Aye, the THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION REGARDING ASSOCIATE MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD. Now WE'VE HAD TWO PEOPLE PUT IN MARK DALE, who IS THE OWNER OF CENTRAL GLASS ON BROADWAY, and ALSO MATTHEW ANDRADE. They're THE FIRST TWO THAT HAVE PUT IN IN WHAT THREE YEARS. When WAS THE LAST TIME WHEN YOU PUT IN? You WERE THE LAST ONE TWO YEARS AGO AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN QUITE SOME TIME.
Speaker 1:But THE WAY THE ASSOCIATE MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD WORKS, they GET TO ACT ON SPECIAL PERMITS, on SITE PLANS, which ARE BY SPECIAL NOW, and GET TO FILL IN IF THERE'S A CONFLICT OR IF THERE'S AN ABSENT MEMBER. The CHAIR DECIDES IF THE ASSOCIATE MEMBER CAN PARTICIPATE OR PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION AND PARTICIPATE IN ANY VOTE. It's A TWO-YEAR APPOINTMENT AND IT'S A JOINT VOTE BY BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE SELECTMENT and it's a joint vote by both the Planning Board and the Selectmen. So whatever the Planning Board numbers come out to adding the Selectmen numbers, there's a eight votes and whatever the majority is, it comes out to someone. That's what happened. So I believe I mean you, you know had the information on who's put in. I don't know if anyone? Uh well, first make a motion before we can have any discussion. If anyone want to make a motion on either one of the members or do nothing at all, on discussion nothing at all discussion.
Speaker 3:I didn't get any information from about mr Dale? Mr Dale, no, and I do have a question. Was this posted at all on the website?
Speaker 1:we don't typically don't post any of these appointments, they just get appointed.
Speaker 3:Typically they don't post any time well, I DID LOOK BACK AND I DID NOTICE THAT WELL. First, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH ANY OF THE TWO. I KNOW MATT DID A FANTASTIC JOB WHEN HE WAS HERE, and I DON'T KNOW MR DALE. So I NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CANDIDATE, but I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROCESS. I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFOR process. I would feel more comfortable if this was thrown up on the website like the fincom was the capital planning and I think it was the permanent building committee.
Speaker 3:If we've been without a associate member for this long, I think that if we revisited this at the next meeting, I think it would just be. I'd be a little bit more comfortable with that. I don't have any. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE. I'd BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT MR DALE AND, again, I JUST THINK THAT, to BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THE OTHER VACANCIES IN THE TOWN ARE, would BE PRUDENT FOR THE BOARD AND I I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. And AGAIN, I'm NOT TAKING AWAY, don't have any issue with any candidates, but I'm not really comfortable with the procedure okay, that's noted.
Speaker 1:I know we've the rest of the board. I mean, you just stepped on the rest of us at time. Look at this. I don't know anyone wants to make a motion to a point just to put it under discussion or any ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, just TO PUT IT UNDER DISCUSSION OR ANY OTHER KIND OF MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPOINT MATTHEW ANDRADE, associate MEMBER. Okay, a SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. Anyone WANT A SECOND SECOND? Okay, any DISCUSSION.
Speaker 4:ANTHONY, I AGREE WITH BRINGING THAT IN AS THE ASSOCIATE I MEAN. I WAS ONLY HERE A YEAR AND QUITE A BIT FROM HIM, and HE HAS A LOT TO OFFER.
Speaker 1:OKAY KAM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?
Speaker 3:NO, I WILL ABSTAIN THOUGH.
Speaker 1:NO BURKE.
Speaker 2:ONLY THAT, mr. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT nice to have somebody who can run with it. No, I agree with you. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I agree with you on that. Any further discussion?
Speaker 6:Bob, just for the record. So this associate member is something new. It was put in about two years ago, two and a half years ago. Anthony is the first associate member, so this was new to us. I actually wrote the, the proposed bylaw with, looking at a couple of other towns that had an associate member and originally I requested that we'd have to associate associate members, but the select me decided that was too many and they we should be dropped it down to one.
Speaker 6:As far as the joint vote, I'll just tell you how it was handled before. It's. It wasn't handled where everyone's in the same room and there's eight people voting on it. The way we handled it with Anthony is the Planning Board voted. I took that vote and I brought it to the town administrator. He put it on the agenda for the Selectmen's next meeting and they voted and then they took the majority vote at that. Then there was no abstentions, no one opposed to it.
Speaker 6:So you know, anthony was, you know, chosen because there was no other people. We never, we never did advertise, and then it's maybe not, it's a bet, it's not a bad idea whether we advertise these positions now or in the future. But you know that's that's a good idea, but it's been out there for a long time. Mr Dale is a great candidate too, you know. Just for the record, you know, whoever whoever is not appointed, I think we have a position for them on another board. So to get two people that want to donate their time for for no money is, you know, is is is rare so you know, so that's where we stand.
Speaker 6:As far as the appointment process, that's how it was handled the first time. I would imagine we'll handle the same way this time, unless you decide you want to make some changes to this and then we can, you know, try to amend the bylaw, but just for informational purposes. That's how we handle the first time around this is second time you were recruited oh yes, yeah, you were.
Speaker 4:No, I'm but Matt always said who, who, let's be an associate member on every meeting.
Speaker 1:For I don't know, the past several months yeah, we've been talking about it to make the bylaw for six, seven years anyway. But I remember, like you, were you associate in bridgewater. That's how I started myself. I remember that and I remember that we did vote as you said, where we took the planning board vote and then it was forwarded to the selectmen to put on the agenda, and then I REMEMBER THAT WE DID VOTE AS YOU SAID, where WE TOOK THE PLANNING BOARD VOTE AND THEN IT WAS FORWARDED TO THE SELECTMENT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN THEY TOOK THEIR VOTE.
Speaker 6:So I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND I'M GOING TO RETRACT SOME OF THE INFORMATION I JUST GAVE YOU. I GUESS BRIAN WAS THE FIRST ASSOCIATE MEMBER HERE. Thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 1:The one thing If it was on for a year, then I had to run for my term Before we. I'd like Mr Dale to be contacted and encouraged to stay active on this, because I mean your elections. The first time there's been some election for planner board. That's been someone running against someone else running for a long time. You KNOW ELECTIONS AND THE FIRST TIME THERE'S BEEN SOME ELECTION FOR PLANNING BOARD, that's BEEN SOMEONE RUNNING.
Speaker 4:AGAINST.
Speaker 1:SOMEONE ELSE RUNNING FOR A LONG TIME, so IT'S TOUGH TO GET PEOPLE.
Speaker 3:TO PUT THEIR HANDS IN THE RING.
Speaker 5:YOU KNOW.
Speaker 1:AND.
Speaker 5:IN A COUPLE.
Speaker 1:YEARS. I THINK ME. Berke AND BRIAN ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE AT WAR, and SO I ENCOURAGE GOOD PEOPLE TO FALL IN YOUR COMMAND.
Speaker 3:BUT TO YOUR POINT, mr CHAIR. I DO THINK THAT I DIDN'T WATCH EVERY PLANNING BOARD MEETING, so I DID NOT HEAR THAT IT WAS ADVERTISED. But I THINK IF ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO TRY TO GET SOME INTEREST IN SERVING, I THINK THAT A TOOL. W JUST THROW IT UP ON THE WEBSITE.
Speaker 1:AND.
Speaker 3:THAT'S ALL THAT I'M SAYING. Like I SAID TO YOU, it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CANDIDATES AT HAND. I'm NOT BLOCKING ANYBODY, I'm NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT.
Speaker 1:NO I.
Speaker 3:UNDERSTAND, but I AM VERY MUCH A FAN OF OUTREACH AND I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE ADVERTISE THE FINCOM AND THE CAPITAL PLANNING, so I JUST WANTED TO BE AS LONG AS IT STAYS OFF FACEBOOK, yeah I. Just WANTED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT. That's ALL THAT I'M SAYING.
Speaker 1:NO, it's A VALID POINT. Okay, I'll CALL FOR A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. I'll APPOINT THAT. That's A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
Speaker 5:AYE.
Speaker 1:AYE.
Speaker 3:I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN.
Speaker 1:OKAY, and I'LL VOTE AYE. So THAT'S A FOUR AND A SESSION. Yes, sir, okay. The THIRD ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING, zero PARAMOUNT DRIVE. You're GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT PROBABLY A FEW MEETINGS FOR THINGS TO COME IN, because IF YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE HEARINGS, you CAN'T VOTE.
Speaker 3:CORRECT.
Speaker 1:BUT I THINK IT CAN STILL BE PART OF ANY DISCUSSION. In THE MEANTIME SOME THINGS, you CAN ACTUALLY GO BACK ON AND SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT THAT YOU ACTUALLY REVIEWED ALL THE MINUTES.
Speaker 3:AND THE.
Speaker 1:MATERIAL TOO. So YOU KNOW ALL THIS STUFF FROM BEING A COUNCILOR. But THIS GRECO BOARD WE WERE ABOUT TO VOTE ON IT LAST TIME. It WAS PRETTY MUCH BUTTONED UP, but WE HAD FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. We HAD TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF ACTION OUT. There IS A CERTIFICATE OF ACTION. I DON'T HAVE IT. You KNOW WHAT?
Speaker 5:I THINK I MIGHT HAVE TO GET ON AND REPLACE IT I.
Speaker 1:CAN'T READ. I GOT TO GET ONE OF THOSE THINGS I CAN'T READ OFF MY PHONE, even WITH READING GLASSES. Is THAT PICKING UP? Yeah, don't RUB IT IN. The ONLY THING WE WANTED TO COMPARE I THINK CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, barth BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THEY HAD FOR THEIR WAIVERS REQUESTED ARE THE SAME WAIVERS THAT ARE ON THE STATISTIC OF ACTION YOU DON'T HAVE.
Speaker 6:WAIVERS DO YOU?
Speaker 7:YES action. You don't have waivers, do you?
Speaker 6:yes, we have waivers listed on the okay, so we yeah, there's 13 there's 13 of them. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of another project, so she should have all that. On the certificate of action, if you want to wait until she makes copies, we can take them out. We can take the next thing out of order if you want to continue the meeting.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm actually want to take put dough run towards the last. Okay, I can participate in it, but my brother's the engineer on it so I don't want to because that's an administrative issue of what Doe run is on for. But I'm not going to participate in it. So I wanted to get everything else out of the way and then I'm going to take off on that. So, 1900 Broadwayway discussion regarding temporary certificate of occupancy. I know we had received an email from barton. 1900 broadway is the what was going to be the sports betting place for uh tony family, and originally they had a massive development going on between a million square foot warehouse where the old track was and a sports betting where the building's up. He doesn't have the license, but you have my letter that I found from the selectman that he had sent and I remember that was given to us. But I'm going to let you run with the ball on this one, bob, if you don't mind, no problem.
Speaker 6:So over the past couple three years because the building permit was issued in 2022, we've been monitoring the construction of that new facility on Broadway, 1900 Broadway. They're at the point now where most of the site work is done. We received an As-Built plan. We did a cursory review as far as the site work, the parking facility, the drainage pretty much match up with what the approved plan was. They approached me now that the building is 90, let's say, 95% complete. There's some odds and ends left to be done. But they approached me and they asked me if they could occupy the building so they could bring their offices and their staff in the building to finish.
Speaker 6:Setting up. That building houses a large area which is going to be a future restaurant, probably takes up 30% of the entire building. They do not have a tenant for that restaurant so that restaurant fit out is not complete. But they didn't want to start the transfer of the simulcast bedding which is in the old building, which they say is going to take two to four months. So I issued a temporary oxy permit for staffing only and setup only and the use of the office space. The temporary oxygen permit which I sent to all of you does not allow the facility be used for a public facility. They cannot operate any kind of bedding or any kind of restaurant until we go to it.
Speaker 6:A new temporary or a final occupancy permit, which would be sometime towards the end of the summer, the certificate of action. But 1900 does have a number of items that have not been handled yet items like signage, off, off-site signage, items like mitigation, those items which I brought to their attention that are not complete. They are going to try to wrap their hands around. You may see them at the at a future meeting to verify some of those or to ask for them to be amended. I'm not sure how that's gonna go, but before we go to a full occupancy permit for the total use of the facility, they'll be back in front of this board with an update. The certificate of action that we submitted, that that we gave to them, also requires them to come back to the board for modification if they do get a gambling license, which they're they're in pursuit of and may happen down the road. So this is basically a certificate for a temporary use. It's only three months long so that they can start setting up the facility FOR A TEMPORARY.
Speaker 3:USE. It's ONLY THREE MONTHS LONG, SO.
Speaker 6:THAT THEY CAN START SETTING UP THE FACILITY AND GETTING READY TO MOVE THE SIMULCAST OVER TO THIS NEW BUILDING.
Speaker 1:OKAY, I'd IMAGINE THEY'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN, because MY SUGGESTION WAS GOING TO BE TO JUST GO through the certificate of action almost with them. So they're going to have to do their punch list before they go further. They know that, so it would behoove them to come in in the near future and start paying an awesome amount of stuff.
Speaker 6:So basically, yeah they got what they needed for now and the ball was in their lap to come back. I would imagine you'll see them, probably closer to early, early middle July, with an update on what's been completed and what's yet to be completed in order for them to get a final occupancy permit okay, so that's all that's issued. You issued the other day it was issued on the 29th was issued on the 29th. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Thanks, bob.
Speaker 1:OKAY, I'm GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON ZERO PARAMOUNT. Drive GRECO FORD. We HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF ACTION IN FRONT OF US AND THE APPLICANT COULD COME UP. I'd LIKE TO READ THE WAIVERS AND SEE IF THEY ARE THE SAME ONES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS. Is THERE ANY PLANS? Okay, actually I HAVE THEM HERE SO I CAN READ THEM ON. Okay, we've GOT A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, which WAS PRIOR REQUESTED. Okay, okay, section 4.1a, 4.1b, 4.1d, 4.1, 5. These are back, which are at the end 5.2b, 5.1c, 5.1e, 5, 2.
Speaker 1:B 1C okay, they're all the same exact ones as you have on the plan. Does anyone know? Engineer, as far you're concerned, everything is pretty much done.
Speaker 7:Yes, yeah, the only thing the last time we just had to resolve everything with the reviewer and everything. If you look at the new, set of plans it looks almost exact. There's very minor things that we had to change.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this has site plan, site plans now by a special permit. So we have a vote on Site plan and special permit. We can lump together and you could take a separate vote on the waivers. So I'll read the waivers and if anyone, anyone, do YOU HAVE A CROCKETING AS?
Speaker 3:WELL.
Speaker 1:YES.
Speaker 5:I GOT THE WAVERS YOU CAN.
Speaker 1:ACTUALLY SEE THAT I'M GOING TO READ THE WAVERS. I'm NOT GOING TO STOP. If YOU HAVE ONE, check IT AND SAY SOMETHING TO ME AFTER ANY BOARD MEMBERS. First, one's WAVER TO ALLOW LOCUS MAP TO BE AT SCALE ONE EQUALS 500,. Waiver FROM REQUIREMENTS TO SHOW ALL CURB CUTS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. Waiver FROM REQUIREMENT TO SHOW TREES THAT HAVE A SIX-INCH DIAMETER GRADED TRUNK, measured FOUR FEET ABOVE GRADE ON THE PLANS. Waiver FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. Waiver from requirement to provide a three-foot landscape strip along the foundation wall. Waiver from the requirement to provide a 25-foot undisturbed buffer from wetlands. Waiver from requirement for trees in the parking lot. Waiver from the requirement for stormwater basin slopes to be no steeper than three to one. Waiver from the requirement to provide 150 percent of required storage volume for the 100 year storm event in the basin and to conduct at least one permeability test with an each retention basin. Waiver from the requirement to provide median strips and landscape islands and parking lots. Waiver from the requirement for only one curb cut per street frontage. Waiver from the requirement that curving shall not be between this concrete. Waiver from the requirement that guardrails be designed at parking areas with the adjacent slopes exceed 3 to 1.
Speaker 1:A lot of these are triggered because our regulations actually changed after Paramount Development Cup put in. Regulations ACTUALLY CHANGED AFTER PARAMOUNT DEVELOPMENT CUP PUT IN AND THEY HAVE, I THINK, an ASSOCIATION. That's PRETTY STRICT ON WHAT THEY APPROVE AND LET IN THERE, so IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THEM, which IT DID. I SAW A LETTER FROM RUSS VON AERANA. There's ONE MORE ON THE NEXT PAGE. Which ONE.
Speaker 4:WAIVER FROM which one Waiver from 14.
Speaker 1:Go to the next page.
Speaker 2:Waiver from the requirement for ballage along the sides of buildings exposed to vehicle traffic. Burke, do you have any issue?
Speaker 7:with any of the waivers the last one. I just have a question. You don't have to plan on the ballage.
Speaker 6:Yeah, the ball it's yeah across the front parking along the building.
Speaker 7:There's no, there's no parking. The launch, no parking along the building by me. Mr Andrade actually asked us. The front entrance to the site is right here and at the last meeting we appeared before you, mr Andrade asked us to put ballers there. So we are putting them there. We put them on there in that location, in front of the entrance to the building.
Speaker 6:There's not many spots right there's nothing.
Speaker 7:There are no spots adjacent to the building. There's nothing. There are no spots adjacent to the building.
Speaker 6:Yeah, just spots 30, 40 feet away. The parking's not in front of the building, but the entrance is where you're going to protect yourself.
Speaker 7:Exactly, exactly. That's more people walking out the door Absolutely, and a nice glass facade.
Speaker 6:No good idea. Okay, so you don't need that waiver.
Speaker 7:Well, yeah, any other?
Speaker 3:issues on any way of his I.
Speaker 1:AGREE ANY OTHER ISSUES ON ANY WAY OF HIS BIRTH BRIAN. No MORE ANSWERS.
Speaker 4:I WAS QUESTIONING THE 100-YEAR STORM BUT CHRIS ANSWERED THAT BECAUSE IT'S MORE STRICT IN THE RING HANDLE.
Speaker 1:YEAH, this PARK WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED AS ONE BIG DESIGN ASSUMING FULL BUILDOUT ON EVERY LOT, and IT WENT THROUGH MEPA, dep, all THIS. So, pam, any ISSUE ON ANY OF THE WAIVERS? Okay, hearing NONE. I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WAIVERS AS LISTED IN THE CITIFICATE OF ACTION. Just READ.
Speaker 2:SO MOVED.
Speaker 1:HEAR SECOND, second, any MORE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR? Aye, okay, the NEXT THING WOULD BE TO MOTION TO APPROVE A SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT FOR ZERO PARAMOUNT DRIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN READ WITH A TITLE. If THIS'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN READ WITH A TITLE. If THIS IS, can YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR LATEST REVISION DATE IS?
Speaker 7:SURE CAN APRIL 10, 2025.
Speaker 1:OKAY, THIS ONE'S. That's THIS ONE. Yeah, THE ONE YOU HAVE IS APRIL 10, THEN.
Speaker 2:I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPRO. I make a motion that we approve the plan titled Site Plan Zero Paramount Driving in Massachusetts. Owner-applicant Greco Automotive Group, dated THROUGH APRIL 10, 2025, along WITH THE PROPOSED CERTIFICATE OF ACTION THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING.
Speaker 1:SPECIAL.
Speaker 2:PERMIT AND SPECIAL PERMIT.
Speaker 1:OKAY, do I HEAR A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? Second, are THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS?
Speaker 5:BURKE BRIAN.
Speaker 6:ANTHONY. No, I DON'T.
Speaker 1:KNOW OKAY, all IN FAVOR.
Speaker 3:ALL RIGHT, unanimous, okay.
Speaker 1:YEAH, thank YOU VERY MUCH.
Speaker 4:WE'RE JUST IMPRESSED. You WERE ABLE TO READ THE LATERS ON THE PLAN. Okay, thank YOU VERY MUCH. We're GOING TO VARIANATE THIS ONE. Okay, we're JUST IMPRESSED. You WERE ABLE TO READ THE LATERS ON THE PLAN. Okay, thanks FOR YOUR WORK.
Speaker 1:THANK YOU. Good LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT.
Speaker 7:THANK YOU, guys, appreciate IT. Okay, have A GOOD NIGHT.
Speaker 1:I'D LIKE TO. I'm NOT. I mean, as Maureen pointed out, there are some outstanding monies. You guys are aware of that. There's also the issue with the cemetery fence. Before that, invoices and bills. I have Laylor Estates. In BILLS I HAVE LAYLER ESTATES. The BALANCE IN THEIR ACCOUNT IS 4803, AND THE INVOICE IS 4893. So WE NEED FUNDS, and SO WE HAVE TO EITHER HAVE BARB O'MORINE, go AFTER THEM FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS, and I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER WE SHOULD PUT ON THAT DO.
Speaker 6:WE HAVE MINIMUM BALANCE IN THAT ACCOUNT OF $10,000? No, no.
Speaker 5:MINIMUM, the BALANCE IS A BIT RIDICULOUS.
Speaker 1:THE BALANCE IS NEGATIVE $90.
Speaker 5:NO, what IS THAT TYPICAL B? What is that typical balance for that account of 10? What they started with, what we try to carry? Well, you're supposed to carry at least 25,000 of your original deposit.
Speaker 1:You don't have to get that one this is still up at 25,000.
Speaker 1:I was going to say 20, but I'll go for 25. Yeah, okay, 25,000 in there right now. And what this is, pab, is that we have review engineers and inspectors go out on every project. That are subdivisions, so we can see how the road's built and make sure it gets built for the plan. And we make the applicant pay. And in this particular case, there's no money left in the account and the project's ongoing, so we're going to ask for some more money and if they don't, then they don't get to build on their lots.
Speaker 6:So will you make a motion someone make a motion that we collect $1,000 per lot as a minimum requirement for that that account. That's what we did for go run.
Speaker 1:Okay, how many lots are in? Layla? 27, I believe, so you know she'd be 27 you could use what we've done in the past.
Speaker 6:Okay, $1,000 per lot no.
Speaker 1:I agree on being consistent. Does somebody want to make that motion? Okay? So we get a thousand dollars per lot. The motion would be to ask but 27,000 to get put into, based on the fact that there are 27 lines. Yeah, okay, a second on that motion. We'll second that. Any discussion, ryan? No, anthony.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 1:Okay, all in favor. Aye, Okay, we have another. Wow, walmart. Is that for the new piece, walmart? Because that also has a negative balance in their account. They haven't started anything yet.
Speaker 6:They haven't pulled permits. They've done a couple of PERC tests which were required for the drainage. Their project has actually been reduced in size they're not doing anything with the parking lot but they were required to have a PERC test done, which was viewed by GPI when they did it IN SIZE. They're NOT DOING ANYTHING IN THE PARKING LOT BUT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PERK TEST DONE, which WAS VIEWED BY GPI WHEN THEY DID IT. So AT THIS POINT THERE'S NO ACTIVITY GOING THERE, but THEY DID HAVE SOME ENGINEERING COSTS BECAUSE OF THE PERK TEST THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THEIR CERTIFICATE OF ACTION.
Speaker 1:WE SHOULD ASK WHAT THEIR NEGATIVE IN FUNDS WELL WE.
Speaker 6:NEED TO AT LEAST GET ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE BILL. I CAN BRING THAT MORE INFORMATION TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET STARTED ON THEIR PROJECT. But BEFORE WE ISSUE ANY PREMITS, we CAN COME UP an adequate amount of money for that.
Speaker 4:Which one was it?
Speaker 5:38. 38.
Speaker 6:Right it started at $5,000. Or you could just vote to ask them to have a minimum of $5,000.
Speaker 1:I ask yeah, I would suggest that I recommend the motion. I mean, are they going to move forward? It's the 101-38. It's a small edition I didn't obtain a motion for that effect. Second Any more discussion, no Hearing. None all in favor.
Speaker 4:Aye.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's $5,000 requested for Walmart. So are we holding these invoices and not signing?
Speaker 5:them. We can sign them, walmart. So ARE WE HOLDING THESE INVOICES, not SIGNING THEM?
Speaker 1:I'LL TASK THIS AROUND INVOICES, bills, all BUSINESS, newusiness SIGNTOWN MEETING REPORT.
Speaker 5:NO, not THE TABLE BASKET, okay.
Speaker 1:OKAY PLANNING BOARD COORDINATOR UPDATE.
Speaker 6:A COUPLE OF THINGS. Getting BACK TO LAYLER ESTATES, just SO YOU KNOW, they're GOING TO BE PUTTING DOWN BINDER NEXT WEEK, so THEY' putting down binder next week. So they'll probably be looking for lot releases in the next several weeks. There's been a lot of activity, a lot of site work. I gave Pam a tour today. Looking good. They got some nice street lots Should blend in pretty well. But you will see some binder down there. There's a lot of activity.
Speaker 6:The other thing they're doing is the Bullock farm at the end of that road is gonna get an access way on the binded part of the road because they're at the point where they need to reduce the level of the roadway, like they were granted. So they're gonna bring that roadway down I think 11 feet in a couple of areas, which is gonna block the access to the Bull bullet from. Yeah. So they have put a plan together. I think the Bullocks have about the sign that their waiver to use this. It's gonna be a long drive, we think I talked to Tony the other day so that's, that's in play.
Speaker 6:1023 Broadway, the Noria gas station. I gave them up. They get. They had their final inspection done by myself. Final as bill plan, pretty much everything according to what was agreed upon, what was approved with site plan. So I have an as-built plan. They got an occupancy permit the other day. It's fully paved, fully striped. It should be fully operational by the beginning of the week. Nice nice project spent a lot of money.
Speaker 6:It's done very well so I wanted to bring that to your attention. So that's behind us. Other than that, there is some activity. It looks like stop and shop is going to be bought and reused. I had a meeting with the players this morning. I will bring you more information as I receive it. So that's good. Tom is gonna get reused for that building. So the less vacant buildings we have on 44, the more vibrant the town would be. Other than that, the only thing I have to bring to your attention would be the lot release requests and the information for that.
Speaker 1:That's my report okay, any plans to be signed tonight? Okay, the last thing and this will be on you, pam after tonight is the circuit update. Yeah, I was on vacation in the last minute yeah, you don't necessarily have to go you, you just have the title. No one told me that.
Speaker 4:Huh, no one told me that part.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, we withhold some information Interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm going to hit you up.
Speaker 4:Let me get out, I'm recording.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think I'm not going to participate in this one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I live in the neighborhood going to participate in this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I live in the neighborhood, so I have to recuse myself too. Right, I assume I'm going to stay then to help stare through it, because you're going to need you know. I think I'll abstain, but I think I'll have to explain it to Pam, because you're going to have to vote. If there's anything, what it is is this is Marie Smitzel, land on Pine Street. Explain IT TO PAM IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE. If THERE'S ANYTHING, what IT IS IS. This IS MAURICE SMITZEL AND ON PINE STREET, and YOU KNOW, if YOU COME DOWN THE END OF THE FOREST, turn LEFT.
Speaker 6:JUST SO YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT HER UP TO.
Speaker 5:SPEAK TODAY.
Speaker 3:SHE'S WELL AWARE OF THE.
Speaker 6:LOTS THAT ARE REQUESTED SHE'S.
Speaker 3:WELL AWARE OF THE SUBDI. I think I gave her a lot of the history today.
Speaker 6:We went for a ride earlier today and I showed her all the activity down in that end of town.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I can just shut up and leave now.
Speaker 6:No, you can listen to me if you want to listen to me.
Speaker 1:As much as attractive as that sounds, rub it so with a lot of activity in that subdivision and a lot of lot release issues.
Speaker 6:One thing I'll bring to your attention is the fact that the easement has been recreated with the removal of the fence.
Speaker 6:I did receive a letter from mr Pryor's wife or I should say an email making sure that we were okay with it and what you needed to do moving forward and what the plan was for the use of that easement. I did send that around and I did get a response. We all got a response from the Cemetery Commission earlier today. They are happy with what's there, as long as no fence gets recreated in that space. They do not have any intentions to make any improvements on that easement, which means that the owners of the easement are free to maintain it as a grassy area as long as it's not blocked by any kind of fence or any kind of structure. They think there's no need for a curb cut, there's no need for a gravel walkway or gravel pathway at this point, as long as the two abutters, you know, keep it the way it is today and they have access to it and they think they'll be able to go back there once or twice, maybe three times at the most per year to service that that.
Speaker 6:So at the present time, barring any changes that could happen down the road, cemetery is satisfied with the easement and the way it's been left. After some more discussions about the request for lot releases with CID, gpi and also Joe Cantilli, at this point Mr Cantilli does not want to pursue any more lot releases on the Phase 2, which would be lot 4, 5, 6, 17, and 10A, because he's going to work out some issues that GPI has with the detention basins not being fully operational, one and one of them not even being constructed. So they're going to construct the one that's not constructed. They're actually going to put into full use the detention basin that's there now at the end of our way across from what he did request, though, is for the board to consider the release of lot 24.
Speaker 6:Lot 24 is that standalone lot that's on ariana way on the way out. It would make sense for them to develop that lot so they could finish that roadway out. If you're not familiar, state your name. 24 is the one that stands out by itself. Why it was left clear not part of the first phase is beyond me. He's looking to develop this lot is there a starting?
Speaker 6:Street. It's on a way on the way out. They stopped the top coat right at the right, this side of that drive. They would like to have this one lot released so they can get a building permit. You know where. It is very sure you can. And I would say what does? Decide to vote to release, it would be contingency that one, all the bonds, be brought up to speed. He is. He is deficient on having no snow power removal account which you would have to fund, and the review account which you would have to fund. So if you decided you wanted to vote on this, I would make a contingent on him to supply you funds to put those two accounts back where they need to be and where do they need to be?
Speaker 6:I think 27,000 for the snow removal, I think. When I said $1,000 per lot, I think that's how the snow account is calculated 1,000 per lot, yes, and then the snow account is is calculated a thousand per lot, and then the review account. I think for that particular subject, I think we started with 20 grand and we want to get it back to where it is so you need 20 plus the six, they all and they all.
Speaker 1:It's deficient by over six thousand right, plus the fundatory needs to be yeah, so the six plus twenty, whatever the deficiencies are, I don't understand any of the permits.
Speaker 6:I just want to bring it up. So if you have any other questions, that's what they would like to do. If the board has any interest in doing that, I would say do it with those conditions. If not ANY INTEREST IN DOING THAT, I WOULD SAY DO IT WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. If NOT, it.
Speaker 4:MAKES SENSE.
Speaker 6:TO DO THE ONE LOT AND NOT THE OTHER FOUR FIVE. So THEY CAN MAYBE CLEAN UP THAT INTO THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN THEY CAN YOU KNOW MAYBE, when WE RELEASE THE OTHER LOTS, they're ONLY ALLOWED TO GO IN AND OUT OF SYDNEY DRIVE, end of the subdivision. And then they can you know maybe, when we release the other lots, they're only allowed to go in and out of Sydney Drive. This part of the subdivision stays quiet.
Speaker 4:I have a question among refusing abstain. This is just a general subdivision question. When phase one is completed in phase two, is released this phase one then accepted by the town, or does the subdivision only get accepted upon full completion?
Speaker 6:so it's accepted by the time when they request it to be accepted, by the time Then they would submit a final as-bill plan, we would do an inspection, we would get input from the highway department. So if they did finish Ariana, there's no reason why they couldn't ask for partial acceptance, but it's usually not done until the whole subdivision.
Speaker 7:Until the whole thing right. Yeah, but it's usually not done until the whole subdivision Until the whole subdivision.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Ken Sid did an inspection on phase one and there's still 100 grand worth of work to be done.
Speaker 6:Street trees you could finish out the rest of Ariana way. The top coat yeah, there is $506,000 in their existing bond. They do not want to touch that. They want to leave that in place when they come back for the request for the additional lots on the end of Sydney. At that point we'll have a new number for another bond that they'll have to submit.
Speaker 6:So they'll have two bonds going. I would imagine at that point they'll be done with Ariana. They'll ask for a decrease in one THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT. So THEY'LL HAVE TWO BONDS GOING, one FOR. I WOULD IMAGINE AT THAT POINT THEY'LL BE DONE WITH ARIANA THEY'LL ASK FOR A DECREASE IN ONE BOND, but YOU'LL HAVE A NEW BOND STARTED FOR THE OTHER PHASE.
Speaker 1:YEAH, because THAT METHOD THEY WANTED BEFORE.
Speaker 6:JUST MOVE IT OVER, just still covered under the $506,000 bond, but Sid calculated only about $100,000 of work left to be done, so they're well covered. Well, I feel that they should finish Phase 1, get it complete before they jump to Phase 2.
Speaker 1:And I understand that a lot. I agree with you and I'm not advocating for them.
Speaker 6:But the way these phases the way 24 is separated from phase two well, it gives them an opportunity to clean up that end of the subdivision. That's the only thing they wanted me to bring forward.
Speaker 1:Just, I'm not golden, but they got to bring that money up to snuff anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I make a motion that we release block 24, subject to how much money up to snuff any?
Speaker 1:yeah, 20,000 plus whatever deficiencies review about which could amount to another $27,000. $27,000 for the review account Plus another $27,000.
Speaker 6:It would be a Snow Rule account and a review account, those two accounts and they both would be about $27,000. So you're looking at $53,000, $54,000 between the two, so why don't we go $60,000?
Speaker 2:just to make sure we have enough money to cover it. They're a build-up, they can afford it Okay.
Speaker 1:Second my motion.
Speaker 2:It would be $27,000 in the snow and $33,000 in the review, I'll second it for discussion. Okay.
Speaker 1:I think it should be more. Is that what?
Speaker 5:You're 27.
Speaker 1:No, you're right, 27 and 33 is fine.
Speaker 6:The numbers don't really mean anything. He's going to give us an insurance bond. It's not going to cost him that kind of money. It might cost him several thousand dollars. So if you want 60, if you want 100, if you want to add another 506 to what's there already, it's up to you, and they can submit a bond.
Speaker 1:Well, these are the inspection accounts, but they're not roadway bond accounts. That's a totally separate animal.
Speaker 2:But that's a totally separate animal. But it's that's what, sid, you guys are. So I am in my motion to be 27 snow and 33 review.
Speaker 1:I'm abstaining, so any other discussion.
Speaker 3:I have a quick question yeah, what is left on phase one to be done? I know you had mentioned that there was a significant. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WHAT IS LEFT ON PHASE ONE TO BE DONE? I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK, but CAN I GET THE ABBREVIATED VERSION OF WHAT IT IS?
Speaker 1:THERE'S LIKE 100,000 LEFT AND THEY HAVE LIKE 500 IN A BOND, so THEY WANTED TO MOVE THE BOND FOR THE NEXT PHASE. That's not the way you typically do it, so they're going to at some point come in and ask for a bond reduction.
Speaker 4:I think she's asking Exactly.
Speaker 1:They have drainage work to do. They have sewer work to do. The cover up. That's buried.
Speaker 2:Clean the drainage and the detention bond needs were.
Speaker 6:Three trees and what we have to read each time.
Speaker 1:We need three these around there.
Speaker 3:Are they on track with that or is there been delays? No, they've been behind.
Speaker 1:What happens is each time GPI, which is great, and Peterson goes out there and does their inspections and they readjust the bond amount and they issue us a spreadsheet to get. Yeah, and that spreadsheet will say street trees, roadway bounds as built plan, like it'll list everything and then it'll have a set them, please, and then so you'll be able to see what's left, we'll start getting them on a spreadsheet with WE'LL START GETTING THEM ON A SPREADSHEET WITH.
Speaker 3:MORE. He SETS IT OUT TO EVERYBODY, so THAT WILL LIST WHAT'S LEFT RIGHT. If THEY WERE WAY BEHIND WITH THINGS.
Speaker 1:THEY'VE BEEN WAY BEHIND.
Speaker 3:OKAY.
Speaker 1:YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.
Speaker 6:SID PUT A NUMBER TOGETHER. That WAS LIKE 730 OR 700. It WAS WELL OVER 700,000, but that number was to finalize. The rest of the subdivision site work and they're working out, they're reworking that number, so it just pertains to the lots that they want released. So that's what's going on. As far as the other part and the fact that Sid had no interest in supporting their lot releases without the drainage yeah, you don't half on.
Speaker 1:Something like if you have a road and you say, okay, I get 20 lots, but I only want to release 10, so I don't want to give you half.
Speaker 6:You want, you you have to give the bond for the whole thing. You have a unique subdivision here, mr. Mr Chamberlain, can I tell you?
Speaker 1:They don't want to pay. That's what's unique about it. But that's like putting in a neighborhood and saying I'm only going to build, I want to bond it. As I build each house, you bond the whole thing, but the money that we're talking about that has to go in the account to pay for us.
Speaker 6:Right, I was talking about the performance bond, not the cash. That's what I thought I wanted to clarify.
Speaker 1:So that $33.7 yeah, you don't partially release lots into a partial for punch upon the whole. Yeah, no, I'll straight it up because so there's no the only motion just to get it done. That motion still on the floor and the other, this is amended. There's NO THE ONLY MOTION, JUST TO GET IT DONE. That MOTION IS STILL ON THE FLOOR, ANY.
Speaker 2:OTHER DISCUSSION MY AMENDED.
Speaker 1:MOTION. It's AN AMENDED MOTION. Any OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT. If THERE'S ANYTHING, anything, all IN FAVOR. Aye, aye.
Speaker 6:SO THAT'S THREE AND TWO EXTENSION. I'll SPEAK UP. So JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU ARE RELEASING LOT 24 AS LONG AS THEY BRING THE BONDING MONEY UP TO THOSE NUMBERS. Yeah, I MEAN 733.
Speaker 1:NOT THE CASH WHEN I SAY BOND I.
Speaker 6:MEANT CASH. That's WHAT YOU MEANT, not.
Speaker 1:BONDED MONEY CASH. We KNOW WHAT YOU.
Speaker 5:MEANT FATHER THE.
Speaker 1:TWO.
Speaker 5:NOT.
Speaker 1:WANDED ONE CASH. We KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT, RODERICK. I JUST WANTED.
Speaker 6:CLAIR MAUREEN WILL GET IT READY.
Speaker 1:IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, IS THERE NOTHING ELSE, RODERICK. That's ALL I.
Speaker 4:HAVE OKAY.
Speaker 1:WHAT'S THIS ON THE.
Speaker 4:NEXT MEROSS FROM EAST OF LAYLA ACTUALLY WHILE WE'RE.
Speaker 1:ON.
Speaker 6:THAT SUBJECT. Can THE BOARD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO SEND THAT EAST PINE TO GPI FOR REVIEW?
Speaker 1:YEAH, I'D IMAGINE THERE'S.
Speaker 6:MONEY.
Speaker 1:IN.
Speaker 5:THE FUNDS FROM.
Speaker 1:THE SUBMISSION YEAH.
Speaker 5:JUST MAKE A MOTION, so WE yeah, I'd imagine there's money in the funds from their submission.
Speaker 6:Yeah, just make a motion. So we have it on record that you requested it to be sent to GPI for.
Speaker 4:I need to recuse from that. I'm gonna butter these pints.
Speaker 6:I don't think you need to be. You know, I got the butter notice in the mail today.
Speaker 4:Oh, you did, because I go all the way up the pine street.
Speaker 1:That's right, you get that little stretch the only other speaking of GPI, let's get through this motion. Burke made the motion to have GPI start looking at East Pine. I hear a second Second. Any discussion All in favor? Aye, the other thing that I slipped and didn't do was if Layla's gonna start coming in, maybe get a top of things. Gp, I should start make creating a bond amount.
Speaker 6:I state it's the.
Speaker 2:Dennis, that yet they're working on.
Speaker 1:They haven't even started the road, except the frontage locks. The frontage locks, there's only two that have water and sewer. Well, as they get it. I think bob's going to issue permits. Are you talking about layla, or he's probably no?
Speaker 6:whatever, and he's fine, leila doesn't have sewer, yet they have sewer sewer.
Speaker 1:They're not hooked to the main end, they're stuck on their property. Yeah, they still have to bring them from the property to the road and down to hook in.
Speaker 6:So that would only come into play when they want an occupancy permit. If it's not signed up by Water and Sewer, then they can't get an occupancy permit. Well, how are they going to get a building permit? They?
Speaker 1:know how to do. If IT'S NOT SIGNED UP BY WATER AND SEWER, THEN THEY CAN'T GET AN OCTOBER, WELL HOW THEY CAN GET A BUILDING PERMIT. They KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
Speaker 6:It's NOT BY THE A IT'S, not IT'S IN THE SUBDIVISION. All RIGHT SUBDIVISION BUT THE ROAD DOES IT THEN THE SEWER DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO HOLD BACK ON AN APPROVAL. It WOULD BE PART OF THE PERMIT PROCESS, with THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENTS RIGHT.
Speaker 1:YEAH, but FOR A LOT YOU NEED WATER AND SEWER HOOKED UP. Yeah, they DON'T.
Speaker 3:HAVE.
Speaker 1:IT, so IT'S NOT HOOKED UP. It's STILL UP. It's STOPPED ON THAT PROPERTY, so THEY WON'T GET BUILD IN TERMS OF IT.
Speaker 2:RIGHT.
Speaker 1:THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. Any OTHER DISCUSSION ON ANYTHING FROM ROBERT ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD IN THAT CASE, I'LL MAKE AN IMPRESSIONED MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
Speaker 2:SO.
Speaker 1:MOVED SECONDED DISCUSSION. All IN FAVOR.
Speaker 5:AYE.
Speaker 1:OKAY YOU.