Conservation Commission 06/10/2026

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A wetlands plan can look perfect on paper and still fall apart the moment a machine shows up on site. We walk through a real Conservation Commission meeting where neighbors, engineers, and contractors all run into the same hard truth: near wetlands, sequencing and documentation matter as much as design.

We start with a proposed subdivision at 699 Locust Street, including a new roadway and a stormwater drainage system built around catch basins, detention basins, controlled outfalls, and infiltration choices tied to groundwater and wetland elevations. Abutters press for clarity on buffers, wildlife impacts, and whether any wetland areas will be moved. We explain the difference between regulated wetland resource areas and an isolated depression that does not meet DEP criteria, plus why Natural Heritage review can shape a project before the planning board even takes it up.

Then we shift to a Notice of Intent for a 30-by-40 garage on Sandy Hill Street, where a simple build inside the 100-foot buffer triggers a bigger conversation about an existing condition in the 25-foot no-activity zone and what “inheriting a problem” means during permitting. The meeting turns sharper with enforcement orders, including a case where erosion controls appear after excavation and another where work drifts into the buffer and cleanup promises stall. We also approve certificates of compliance, debate a wetland replication site move near Wilbur Street, and preview the town’s move toward online permitting.

If you care about local land use, stormwater management, and real-world wetlands compliance, listen through to the end. Subscribe, share this with a neighbor, and leave a review with your take: where should the line be between progress and protection?

Transcript

Call To Order And Ground Rules

SPEAKER_12 0:04

Good evening everyone. Would you like to call the June 10th meeting of the Iranium Conservation Commission to order? Please be advised that all these meetings will be televised and recorded. Sure.

SPEAKER_07 0:20

All public hearings and meetings are by the Radium Conservation Commission meeting on Wednesday, June 10th, 2026 at 5 30 p.m. In the Radium Breath More Town Hall, John. 538 South Main Street Radium Gas. Under Master Law Chapter 131 and 40 as amended in the town of Radium Well protection bylaw.

699 Locust Street Project Overview

SPEAKER_03 2:08

The applicants are thinking of construction of the roadway and draining within the buffer buffering and ordering the weather. It is located at 12 watts, 234, 235, 236, 699 Locust Green Rail. Good evening.

SPEAKER_06 2:36

Good evening. Rebecca, Silver Engineering, as described.

unknown 2:49

Just recently.

SPEAKER_06 2:53

The subdivision would encumber what it is at 10 and Okey Street. It's about you get 12 and then you get six, so you have 15 acres altogether, so it's nine lots. This division itself stopped before using the buttons, or page page.

unknown 3:34

This is page three. This is the overall property.

SPEAKER_06 3:51

So all of the roadblocking infrastructure, actually, all paper for the wetland line actually starts. The other two parcels that would be developed are future date are non-wetland line at the year. All the logs meet what is required for zoning for a whole lot of acre, one acre log. Subdivision for the planning board is not set at a date yet. So as I flip to page 7 where the design of the roadway is actually starting to be laid out, you can see where the drainage collects all the way down to lot nine, which I believe you're looking at. The drainage even proposed on lot nine. So those two are estate lots for the future. Sure, what? No, they were looking at the estate lots. I was just um we have the typical catch basin and drainage manual conveyance. We have the drainage basin on the north side, the main on the south side, and we also have the basin on the south side. And the basin that is on the south side. Um you'll see that it's clear by the regular base outfall. Yep, so the upper basin was um function with the knee. Okay. Yep. The upper basin has a standpipe to control the outfall and the base to the next one. Closer to the wetland. Groundwater wasn't very confusive on the top one, so we didn't do a lot of infiltration required, so we use the bottom one to get it closer to the wetland elevation and to do more of the infiltration required. Um as mentioned it hasn't gone to full planning board yet, so any of the technical aspects will be reviewed during the planning board process on date date. Um EP has not issued that number right now, and we are also in the process of negotiating with natural heritage. Um they have suspended their review at the moment until uh you can talk to the applicant about his approach for the internal management data situation. We have some recruiters that we want to get. We have not included. Um but so he specializes in them out there and observing, uh we're we're at marching to assume before we they're there. So although this information is important and your feedback at this point is helpful, um, I would still ask for information for at least audience until I can get a handle on all these different aspects.

SPEAKER_04 7:31

What's the structure?

SPEAKER_06 7:38

Um lot seven to eight? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:40

Yeah, the road.

SPEAKER_05 7:47

Oh, that's not the structure, that's the little isolated area, right? That little uh H camera thing? This thing right here? That's the isolated area that we looked at with the little map in the back that didn't.

SPEAKER_12 8:01

Okay, that would be that's what that is.

SPEAKER_05 8:03

That's the little they use it as a watering hole version.

SPEAKER_06 8:07

Yeah, it's just a pressure map. Uh we went back a couple times to investigate.

SPEAKER_12 8:14

It's just rock, right?

SPEAKER_06 8:15

They excavated the hole, they use it for watering of various plants we were told, and that's all it is. So it won't remain.

SPEAKER_15 8:38

Yeah, this question for that. Uh yeah, I mean they uh in general, but uh they aren't doing stuff. What are they doing? But that's all those and those estate logs I'm sorry, would come back. And those are uh those two that's gonna have a house on it or I can do it, right? And uh and then pass over and be two estate locks. So those are the three that we likely have to do.

SPEAKER_12 9:20

So you think could they eventually pass away and be overly built on?

SPEAKER_06 9:26

Correct. The plan would be a state lots.

SPEAKER_12 9:28

Yeah, they're gonna go for a butt it says it's not a building lot. Well, because they're not a special point. Yeah. Right. But you I mean you're going after that to be developed out there. Correct.

SPEAKER_06 9:38

That would be a future phase, but Nature Heritage wants to see it now anyway, so it's laid out before you what the intent would be to seek the state lots. No, I mean not on not on this one. This was done by Ken.

SPEAKER_12 10:25

All right. At this point, does the board have any questions or comments?

SPEAKER_04 10:37

Is it gonna end up being connected to sewer?

SPEAKER_06 10:41

Yes. Uh it's got uh low pressure in the street. There's this there's a manhole at the top that would connect into the existing manhole um on uh locus street via an easement. Um we already had a comment about that from the sewer department too, so and water. Yep.

SPEAKER_12 11:01

Yes, all right. Uh anyone in the audience have any comments about this project?

Abutter Questions On Wetlands And Plans

SPEAKER_12 11:07

Go ahead, ma'am.

SPEAKER_08 11:08

And I'm sorry, I'm waiting. I just want to know which project it is. I didn't see the agenda. Oh, I'm sorry, this is for um 699 Locust Street.

SPEAKER_12 11:15

699.

SPEAKER_08 11:16

I would like to make a comment. And I was wondering if I'm able to see the plans. I didn't see that they were available ahead of time. Um so my name is Victoria Fonce. I'm an abutter at 743 Locust Street in Rainham. Okay. Um my potential concern would be um with moving the existing wetlands out that we do have a lot of wildlife um out there. Um and I understand your concern. Um, the conservation committee is the same as the residents. Um my concern is where the wetlands are going to be moved to because I don't want that to inhibit putting me into a buffer that I'm not already in.

SPEAKER_12 11:53

Yeah, there's no planes for moving any weapons.

SPEAKER_08 11:57

Okay, so the pond that's in the background that's staying, and everyone's staying outside of a hundred-foot buffer.

SPEAKER_12 12:04

What you're talking about is what we were just talking about.

SPEAKER_08 12:06

Is the little depression? Um about there, yeah. Um at the pond.

SPEAKER_12 12:14

Well, it doesn't fit the criteria to be considered a weapon.

unknown 12:18

According to DEP, which is protection, it doesn't meet the criteria to be considered a weapons.

SPEAKER_12 12:26

Okay. Alright? It's just an isolated area.

SPEAKER_08 12:31

So it means we can fill it and we don't have to put it anywhere else. Okay. And I apologize that I was like you guys are very prompt. That's excellent. Um, so I am here. Um the wetlands that are being discussed are on the back of the lot there. Correct.

SPEAKER_14 12:47

Yes, that green area.

SPEAKER_08 12:48

Perfect. Thank you.

SPEAKER_14 12:50

All right, thank you. We have yeah, have a question too, one minute butter. Sure, get up to Mike, just name and address. Yep. 675 uh Woke Street Radium. Okay. Um and I just wanted to see the plans too. We have button. My sister and I have on all this land over here. And this is my house here. 675, this is the same. Yeah, 675. Okay. Oh, wow they just finish in the point we're trying to finish. Okay. I don't want okay. Oh, yes, it's on the back. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:26

Sorry.

SPEAKER_14 13:27

Um, so I'm sure that's where helpful is now, right?

SPEAKER_06 13:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_14 13:32

Yeah. Right, so let's come back that way. Well, now where is that little detection area that they have to take delta one? Yeah, I think we're somewhere about here. Yeah, yeah. So this is wetlands here? Or yes, the job break. Okay. No, it doesn't show over on the other property, so I'd have to get that figured out for my property too, right? No, they don't require you to high property. If I were to put anything in there, I'd have to do that. Because we have a front, we have uh frontage over here.

SPEAKER_15 14:14

All wetlands resources would be underfeeder for post activity. Where it's offline off-proper on the distance. Oh, okay. All right. If it's if that one has on that properties, it's within the underfilled project, but that is to be shown.

SPEAKER_06 14:30

We show the wet ones, we just need to shake the shape it up. Okay, yeah. So it does show a little bit of this wetland area here to scale this as a low line. Um, it's going to go.

SPEAKER_14 14:43

Yeah. Because I know they were out there from George Professor before.

SPEAKER_06 14:47

Yes, so the drainage is going to be split two sides. It will be considered your side, the north side, and it will be considered south side way down the side.

SPEAKER_13 14:58

Okay. So this is the north side, and this is. Alright. And how many houses are all together? Whether two in the front? No, I push it. Plus two further in the back, which means. Okay. Can I see the platform here?

SPEAKER_14 15:13

Just to see whether it's all get to that. Okay, my cluster's cut over there on the edge. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 15:20

And this is one journey as well. And this is the other journey's block. Two plus. Okay. Can I take a picture of that?

SPEAKER_08 15:29

Are those available for public viewing? I know normally they say you can come in ahead of time and do cost. You can make an appointment convention to see the plans. Okay. And but we're not allowed to retain copies.

SPEAKER_09 15:43

But if I have a digital version, which I don't think I do, I got the NLI but all the plants. Um then I could probably too big. Yeah, which we could bounce back. It's probably a drop box.

SPEAKER_06 15:53

Okay. I can drop boxes too five. You can do a lot of less than. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 15:59

Sorry, that's a drainage one. That's just the drainage data. Right. Sweet. Okay. Thank you for your time and appreciate everything you got to my way to serve.

SPEAKER_08 16:09

Thank you guys. I appreciate you too. And I apologize. Could you just explain to what you call the south side where the drainage is going to be? You are here. Yes.

unknown 16:20

Okay, drainage for that two blocks. Could I take um another picture of the um the uh just put you on what's up? Actually, I apologize for you that one.

SPEAKER_08 16:38

Sorry guys, I appreciate you all. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Trying to get out of order earlier.

SPEAKER_12 16:54

Alright, thank you. Alright, anyone else? No? Alright, um. When would you like to continue talking? August. August? It's gonna take a bit. Okay. I mean that's up to

Continuance To August Vote

SPEAKER_12 17:10

you.

SPEAKER_06 17:10

August. We haven't got a planning board meeting and we haven't got a plan for the natural heritage yet. August 12th. Yeah, August 12th is that next.

SPEAKER_12 17:18

August 12th. August 12th. Do you still need a letter?

SPEAKER_15 17:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:26

I got one ready handy. I already knew I already know it's coming in.

SPEAKER_03 17:30

We need a motion. Yes, yeah. Alright, motion to continue in order to attend 699 locus meeting 269, some other number. Roadway construction to the August 12th meeting. I would say that motion.

SPEAKER_12 17:44

Motion May 2nd at all. In favor? Pose?

unknown 17:53

Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_12 17:55

All right. Have a good one. Thank you too.

35 Sandy Hill Garage In Buffer Zone

SPEAKER_12 17:58

Uh next up is a notice of intent for 35 Sandy Hill Street, DEP number two, six, nine, ten, eighty-seven, proposed thirty by forty garage.

SPEAKER_04 18:53

Massachusetts general laws, chapter one hundred thirty-one, section forty of the power of Rainham Noble bylaw. Brainham Conservation Commission will hold a public meeting on Wednesday, June 10th, 2026, at 5 30 p.m. in Donald L. Located at 558 South Main Street, Brainham, Massachusetts. On a notice of intent filed by Braden Becker and is proposing a 30 by 40 garage at the location of the 35 Sandy Hill Street and Assessor's map 17 lot 25. The property is owned by Braden Becker. Copies of the application planning office and sounds of the town hall and cotton.

SPEAKER_11 19:48

It's uh Greg Drake from Outback Engineering, representing Braden Becker. Um the applicant is proposing to construct a 30 by 40 garage on his property at 35 Sandy Hill. The entire garage and a portion of the paved driveway are um within the 100 buffer of wetlands that are on the property. Um the proposed garage is to be located in an area that is currently mowed lawn. Um none of the work encroaches into the 25-foot no activity zone. Um double row of hay bales is proposed for erosion control and also will act as a limit of work. Um we did get a notice, we did get the DEP notice, and it said that there was a um a weapon change on the property. Um Mr. Becker just bought the property a year ago, so he hasn't done anything to it, so it must have been a previous owner that uh changed something on the property. I looked at some aerial photographs which I have, which doesn't seem to do that much change in all that, but uh open up to you questions. I got the map that showed you the area.

SPEAKER_15 21:12

Um near the work, no.

SPEAKER_11 21:19

No, it's something that was done out bad. So and it was done by a previous owner, he hasn't buyed out the backyard.

SPEAKER_15 22:00

Yeah. Yeah, just the comment just telling you that uh the for you to be aware that what they change. So if you can ever take your uh this real map here, update it, and just share what you can identify what lines change here and now the commission will know it's out of it.

SPEAKER_11 22:21

Oh, update this to show that it's out of it. Okay.

SPEAKER_15 22:26

Because this is the map from yeah, but but but it probably but it doesn't show any proposed right.

SPEAKER_11 22:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 22:41

I can do that.

SPEAKER_11 22:44

Um change is graphically.

SPEAKER_15 22:52

Yeah, gradually. Yeah, yeah, that's just showing or do you can comment on the change area.

SPEAKER_12 23:16

How long have you how long is the new applicant on the house? A year, right? This is a applicant brain. Just your name for the record, sir.

SPEAKER_10 23:27

Uh Brain Becker, I'm the homeowner. I've owned it for a little bit over a year. Over a year? A month.

SPEAKER_15 23:46

So I mean if you look at the uh uh the uh wet wetlands line, yeah. You know, or um additionally the gravel. But as I've always said before, uh when you're not close to the wetlands, I will in front of that they have a paved driveway so that uh uh you don't have an issue of uh plowing gravel and getting to the wetlands and replacing the gravel maintenance.

SPEAKER_04 24:16

Yeah, it's hot proposing a paved driveway.

SPEAKER_12 24:23

Yeah, but no, up in the no, up in this area. This is all in the 25, all this gravel is in the 25 foot, no touch. It's all existing. Huh? It's all existing. It's all existing. Not this proposal. It's not part of the proposal, but unfortunately, correct me if I'm wrong, you bring a proposal like this, now we look at the whole the whole property. Yeah, it does even though it if you didn't do it, you inherited a problem.

SPEAKER_10 25:03

This is where this is where it becomes a little bit of a so the main goal is to build this garage, have a paved driveway so that we don't have to plow and relatively mess up. The driveway is terrible and it's falling apart, and honestly, I would love to get rid of it. And this garage is supposed to replace that.

SPEAKER_15 25:26

So are you saying that you're gonna you can remove a disgrace with you?

SPEAKER_10 25:30

I could uh I could dig it out.

SPEAKER_11 25:32

Um I if anything, I would probably uh I don't know if you want to paint that, because it sounds like you prefer painting over it's it's a bit, it's a or otherwise you're gonna need something you're gonna want to replace with plants or something like that.

SPEAKER_12 25:53

Just putting sod over it or what's I I mean I'm you know I want to be sympathetic that you you know you inherited this problem, but how can we repair it? How can we fix it?

SPEAKER_10 26:11

To me, my opinion, if you remove the gravel along the 25 foot where it's in there and put up something to some bushes or whatever, or um there's uh a large beam that holds all of that gravel pushed in uh so it's not just free-flowing. There is a timber retaining wall on it.

SPEAKER_15 26:39

It's not called out.

SPEAKER_11 26:41

It's not called out, but that what the gray line is. There's a retimber retaining wall that's there now. That can be, like you said, moved, and then you can plant in that area. But that again, that's an existing condition.

SPEAKER_12 26:56

Exactly, but like I, you know, I just briefly stated, it's it, you know, I don't have a problem with, I'll say right now, I don't have a problem with the garage the way proposed. I don't have a problem with it at all. But what I'm looking at is the whole project, I mean the whole property relic, excuse me. Um, and you know, I'd like to see something from you to try to rectify the activity that went in the 25th with no touch. There's two to you know, come up with come up with something that's you know feasible to you and economical for you, and you know, like I said, I understand you inherited it, but it doesn't make it right.

SPEAKER_10 27:44

Of course. Um, there's two timber retaining walls. There's one for the gravel driveway, and then there's a secondary look here, gravel driveway. This uh this secondary beam right here is a timber retaining wall. This is another timber retaining wall. I can take this out, remove everything that is behind it, and just let it regrow. So that's pretty good. Yeah, I mean it's just carting out.

SPEAKER_12 28:13

Like I said, I just you know remove what's there and key is to get anything that's in the 25.

SPEAKER_11 28:18

Yeah, just dress it up and we can call it a day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

I just want to point out that if you're gonna go this road, the existing shed.

SPEAKER_12 28:28

Yeah, that's gotta be moved a couple feet forward.

SPEAKER_10 28:30

Hey, listen, I'll take that thing out. That thing is is rotted. It's okay, too.

SPEAKER_12 28:39

Yeah, like I said, I don't have a problem with the garage, you know. Just show us in a plan that you know cleaning up that 25-foot line and removing the shed, you know, in the shed, and in my opinion, I don't know what the rest of the commission, but I'd be happy with that.

SPEAKER_07 28:56

Thank you. I would agree with you, I would echo your comments.

SPEAKER_12 29:03

No, no. Any other comments? All right, so uh with that said, you could just come back and uh the DEP, the overlay, yeah, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_15 29:19

Just put it on there, yeah. And then show that this area here as you just uh agree to say it's just in shirt to be removed. Yeah. Okay, and then and then show this area plant in and that's what it finds for. 25 points we moved the uh rattle out of there.

unknown 29:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_15 29:36

So we'll do it.

SPEAKER_12 29:39

So maybe I'll make everybody happy. Okay, all right, sound good. Uh when do you think you could we can get that planned? Okay, our next meeting is July 8th. Okay, yeah, we can get that into well. I have to ask you, would you like to continue it to July 8th? Yes. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Uh anybody from the public? No.

SPEAKER_03 30:09

All right. A uh motion to continue notice we 10, 35 Sandy Hill Road, DEP 269-1087, proposed 30 by 40 garage to July 8th.

SPEAKER_12 30:22

I will second that motion. Motion being seconded, all in favor? Aye. Aye, opposed, unanimous. Thank you, sir. All right, thank you.

SPEAKER_15 30:31

I'll send out our email to Amy. We'll send an email to Amy for in writing reports in the code.

SPEAKER_11 30:40

The request is to have it in writing. Yep, yep, no problem. Okay.

Certificates Of Compliance Approved

SPEAKER_12 31:08

Uh, next up is request request for certificate compliance, DEP number two six nine, zero eight zero three, seventy-eight Gretchen Way. Um, do you have a chance to review?

SPEAKER_15 31:29

Oh yeah, that's the one the words of the community.

SPEAKER_12 31:33

Okay. Uh so I need uh a motion.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Uh motion to grant a request for uh grant significant compliance for two sixty nine oh eight zero three seventy eight Gretchen Way. I will second that motion.

SPEAKER_12 31:51

Motion made second, all in favor? Pose unanimous. These two are kind of together, uh, request for certificate compliance for DEP number two six nine oh nine nine five, and that was the Mill Street bridge replacement. Um I went out there with the um GPI engineer, um, looked it all over, and uh everything looked up to standards. Hello? Good, sorry. Uh so I need a motion for that one, please. You need two separate motions? Yeah, we'll do it two separate.

SPEAKER_03 33:31

All right. Uh motion to grant certificate of compliance two sixty nine oh nine nine five Mill Street Bridge replacement.

SPEAKER_07 33:40

I will second that motion.

SPEAKER_12 33:41

Motion made second it. All in favor? Aye. Opposed, unanimous. All right, let's be inside. The next one is DEP number two six nine ten four zero Mill Street Roadway and sidewalk improvement. Um this was done in two different DEP numbers. Um but if you go down Mill Street, all the sidewalks are in, and if you go to the end in drainage, if you go to the end of uh Mill and King Phillip, um they put an outflow pipe there, and everything is regrown and reseeded and uh looks good.

SPEAKER_04 35:17

So I need a motion. Motion to approve the certificate of compliance for DEP number two six nine one zero four zero Bill Street Roadway and sidewalking group.

SPEAKER_07 35:33

I will second that motion.

SPEAKER_12 35:35

Motion being seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye, opposed, unanimous.

840 Broadway Enforcement Order Explained

SPEAKER_12 36:50

All right, next up on the agenda, the formal is enforcement order for eight forty Broadway, uh, violations related to DEP number two six nine ten seventy-five. Uh what this is all about is Amy called me on I forget the day of the week it was, Monday, Tuesday, uh first thing in the morning, saying that she had got a letter from the engineer stating that the hay bales were ready for inspection at 8 40 Broadway. I went down there approximately noontime, and yes, the hay bales were there, but they were on top of the spoil piles because the place had already been excavated. Um so that's what brings us here today. So we issued um we issued an enforcement order that day. Uh, so we're here to um vote on it and hear from the the owner of the property what happened.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

My name is Bill Adams. I'm the person running this job. Um first off I want to say um I apologize. I've I've been doing this for 45 years, and I've never been cited ever for any violation in any town I've worked in. Now, typically, what we do is we bring in a machine, and when we're going to put the um erosion control in, we make it a flat surface with a little bit of a shelf on it, and we install the erosion control uh components on that shelf. When my guy went in there with his machine, there were all pieces of foundation sticking out of the ground and trees and all kinds of stuff in the way, in the path of where the soltation fence goes and where the erosion control would go. So typically we dig that shelf out flat, and he was bringing it taking out these chunks of foundation that were sticking up in the air, and instead of putting them aside or telling me, he put them in this truck and took them out of there. He said, I have I have to take them out anyway, so I thought I'd do it all in one step. I was furious, and I you know really let him know that he should have called me, and I would have called somebody on the board and had them come down and look at it and get the approval to do that. Um so when I found out I didn't even know it was like, but then on top of that, when we put everything in, I had the engineer come up to certify it, and he said, your citation fence is in the wrong spot, it should be like 10 feet back. And I said, Well, that's where it was flagged, and he said that was flagged with a with an older plan, he said, and I reflagged it for you, and I so now if you look at it, the um straw bale is behind it and it's going around the back, and the soltation buttons is actually in front of it. So that's how it is run at this moment. Um again, I uh apologize, and uh you know, I I don't know how other than uh it was only a half a day's work. So it wasn't like I would have gone out there and you know I just told him, dig that shelf, put that in, let me know when it's running, and I called the engineer. I didn't go back and look at it until the engineer came out and said the line was in the wrong place. Then I saw that he had dug up all this, he had struck out of a bunch of rocks that were there. Um, and I blasted him for that.

SPEAKER_12 40:34

I mean he just didn't dig a shelf to put hay notes on. No, he he dug out a section that is 75 by 25 feet in diameter. Right, he just and you know, to me the worst part is it was over a foot of water sitting in there.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Yeah, that becomes dangerous. Yeah, it is dangerous, and it rained, and all the water's coming now down the black top and going into that spot. But the drainage that we're putting in will take care of all of that water, that won't be an issue. And I didn't we didn't fill anything in. There's nothing filled in. We just basically removed all the stuff that was there. And and you know, still needs more taken out of there to build the system that needs to be put in there. But it's it's uh the way it is right now, is where we left it. And I and I stopped them from doing any more work in there. And so I and I wanted to meet you out there to go over that, but we didn't get that opportunity.

SPEAKER_15 41:36

So I do how do we proceed? You have to first do a good to ratify the uh enforcement order. Okay, notion for so can I say the motion?

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Uh motion to ratify the enforcement order 840 Broadway violation related to DEP 2691075.

SPEAKER_07 42:00

I will say that motion.

SPEAKER_12 42:02

Motion be made second, all in favor? Aye, oppose unanimous.

SPEAKER_15 42:09

So that having to say that thank you uh we have to correct the correct pull other stuff out of the new one. And then restate re reestablish the new computer areas. And then you got you go you go and inspect it before they do any more work. Yeah, and we lift the enforcement oil.

SPEAKER_12 42:33

Okay. All right. Did you hear that? I I didn't see so you I mean it sounds like it's already been done, but um you had someone go out and put the erosion control where it needs to be? Yes. And it's all in place? Yes, and I have a letter from the I'm certifying that for this.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 43:41

This is dated May twenty six twenty-sixth. Yes. That was already that so that was the original letter that Amy received saying that the hay bill line was in place.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Yes. And it was when you went out and looked at it, it was there, it was further back. The citation temperature here.

SPEAKER_12 44:00

That so, why did he certify that the hay bills were in the correct spot if they weren't?

SPEAKER_02 44:09

No, he certified it. We you know, as he told us it's not the right place, we picked it up and moved it where it's supposed to be. He put the stakes in, we put it where it's supposed to be, and then he certified it later that day. So we did it the same day. He told us it was a problem, we moved the hay bills. They were there when we went out there. Yeah, the hay pill, the hay bills were on top of the spoil piles. They were further back. They're behind the soltation fence. Well, it's behind, yes, but it's on top of what was dug out. No, no, we didn't take that at all. We didn't take anything back there. That area back there, that's how that whole terrain was. Up and down. We we took, there were, there were trees laying down. We cut the trees just to move them so we could get that soltation fence in and get the uh straw tag in. This is that plan here. This is right now the soltation fence is here, and this is where he's certified. That's where that is right now, that straw. That was in here, and we picked it up and put it back here, where it's supposed to be. So that's in place right now where it's supposed to be. It wasn't originally, and it wasn't when you looked at it, this was already done. We had already put this in the back. But you look, when you looked at it, you looked at the citation fence, the straw was behind it. Well, yeah, because that's the picture I took. Yeah, this is where it's supposed to be. Not we had it in front of this. No, when I went out Well, before you looked at it, we had it in front of it. When I invited the engineer out, he said that's not in the right place. It's got to go back here, and he put all the stakes in one that was there, and we moved it, and then you came off. Did you see that picture, Yolden? Yes.

SPEAKER_12 46:11

That's my picture. Yes. I took that. Yes. So those hay bales were there. Yes. And to me, they look like they're sitting on dirt that was taken out of that hole and cast up on that chip.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

We didn't dig anything beyond that so big of that. That pile, all that stuff that's there was how this, all this terrain was. The only place they dug was in tunnel. We didn't touch that all that. Other than cut a couple of trees that were in the way of putting it in that were on the line, that were laying down. So we didn't, we didn't, none of that material out back was touched. And that's how the terrain was all the way across. I don't have any pictures of before, but that's how it was. And I'll be glad to go up there and meet you out there if you want to look at it again.

SPEAKER_12 46:59

Before I go back out there, I want a new letter from the engineer. Okay. Updated. From the surveyor. From the surveyor.

SPEAKER_15 47:09

Updated this week. This week. Okay. Now it's not your application. I won't do that. Okay.

unknown 47:19

Alright.

SPEAKER_12 47:22

Yeah. I'll try to get either to go around the secure around.

SPEAKER_15 47:28

No work on doing this.

SPEAKER_12 47:31

No. No. No more work to be done until we do a site visit. Yeah. Confirm with you. Okay. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

Alright, thank you. You want me to have him confirm also that we didn't touch any of that material back there? Because he was up there before anything was touched. We can save that in his letter if you want. Okay. All right, thank you very much. Alright. I appreciate it. Again, I'm sorry.

736 Broadway Enforcement For Wetland Work

SPEAKER_12 48:11

Go again. I have another issue that I discovered on the new Brickstone brewery cabinet. When they were doing the driveway work, um I noticed they were starting to work in the back corner of the property. And I knew that it's a tough lot. I will say that. The resource area is basically at the parking lot edge. I noticed they went in there, they cut some trees in the corner, they were getting ready to put up light poles. I got a hold of the engineer through the building department. And indeed they were getting ready to work within the 100-foot. They stopped that. They elected not to put any more telephone poles in. I had asked them to clean up the asphalt that got put back there and all the other debris, like the gentleman from Sandy Hill, the debris and crap that's been thrown in there over the years. I asked them to clean it out and just, you know, see the moment and uh let it be. Let it grow back naturally. And I got, yep, we'll do it. We'll do it tomorrow. Tomorrow came and went, the machine broke down. A couple days later, the engineer, the owner. Same thing. It's been uh three weeks, and the only thing they did do was remove the asphalt that they had dumped in. Uh they have not cleaned up anything. They have not cleaned up the two trees that they cut down. Um I don't know where you guys want to go with this. Um that's my opinion. Yeah. I was hoping that they would work with us if we just do it and like our promises, promises, promises, and nothing like that. So um I would like to correct.

SPEAKER_03 50:43

Uh I'll entertain the motion and um motion to issue an enforcement order for 736 Broadway from Stone Newhouse and Tavern for essentially a wetland violation. Okay. I will second that motion.

SPEAKER_12 51:02

Motion remained second it. All in favor. Aye. Aye. Oppose? Unanimous. Yeah, we'll we'll have to get the information from the building department, the owner, and everything, and um we'll just draw it up, send a new send uh registered mail like we did last time.

SPEAKER_15 51:22

Yeah, because we're gonna get those. We can ratify it now. Yeah, we need to sign something on that.

SPEAKER_12 51:38

Can you grab one quick? Yes, I'll no signature page. Yes. That's a signature page and the rest of the stuff in the sign it. Oh, I got one, Amy. Um, I got the enforcement order paperwork. I don't have the signature page. I'm sorry. All right.

Minutes, Bills, And Admin Items

SPEAKER_12 52:20

While she's doing that, uh we can go into general business. Um did everyone get a chance to we should talk about logo screen. Yes, we're gonna we're gonna take that under informal and bring it down to site visits. And I'll explain in a minute why. Okay. Uh everyone get a chance to do the minutes from May 20th. Uh motion to prove the minutes from May 20th. Second. Second. Motion made second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Abstain. Abstain? Three to one. Uh bills here. All right, bills are done, correspondence, we have none.

Wilbur Street Replication Site Concerns

SPEAKER_12 54:24

So um our last meeting, we had the homeowners from Zero Wolver Street, Map 1, lot 97A, come in and talk to us about potentially moving the replication site from what was original on the plan to a different position. And their argument was that there were mature trees that they had to take down in the original. There was less for them to remove in this new location. We left it with them that we were going to do a site visit, which Bill and I did do, but they were supposed to come back with us with a new plan and a written uh request for a minor modification. They have not done that as of yet, but um I guess we can talk about our findings on the site visit. Okay. So I don't have their plan in front of us, but the original plan, if you can remember, I know you were out there, Will. The original plan, as you come in the driveway, the original plan was the replication was at kind of the top um cleared area for the housing area, kind of top corner. They wanted to move it down towards the corner where the driveway went into the main clearing for the house area. I went out there and looked at it, and there are a few mature trees that they would have to take down. Um and the other area is less vegetated. There are some trees, but it is definitely less vegetated, smaller stuff. My only concern about putting it down where they asked was it's going to add volume to a flooded area behind the houses, which funnels down into the little crossing that we made them put the culvert into. So, in my opinion, it's going to add volume to the culvert area, is where if they leave it alone and put it up where it originally was, it'll lessen the volume on that um that crossing area.

SPEAKER_04 57:10

Without being able to see anything, is it is it hydraulically connected to the spot where they the original?

SPEAKER_12 57:20

No.

SPEAKER_04 57:21

The the new place is doing the work that's causing the opposition. So is it part of the connected wetland?

SPEAKER_12 57:36

I think so. Well, yes, there is wetlands above the original one. Um I can't state for sure if it's gonna hydraulically connect the upper wetland with the replication area. If they put it where it they want to move it to, it will definitely um connect to, like I said, that that wide area that floods out behind the houses and then goes into a kind of the stream trench that's gonna go under the driveway. And there's stagnant water in that basin or whatever you want to call it.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

It's not up on, it's not an ice on a wetland.

SPEAKER_12 58:21

No, it's it's deep. There's a lot of water. I'm just afraid it's gonna add more volume and in turn could increase a risk of backing up towards the residents along Wilbur Street.

SPEAKER_03 58:37

Yeah, I was out there as well, and the only concern I had uh would be um their original plan, which was to take down the mature trees. It looks to me that that that was higher ground than the surrounding area. And if they take that and make that a wetland, is that going to force more water in that area of the bottom? Or is it going to be absorbed too?

SPEAKER_04 59:06

My biggest concern would be if they're overwhelming the proposed drainage that they're supposed to consume. And they did they go with a pipe or did they go with a put it on the box?

SPEAKER_15 59:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:25

I I wasn't there at the final vote, that's why I'm asking. Because I know I proposed that. No, no, that's what it went to work for the bus stopper. So those can handle more flow. So it's not like it's gonna get backed up. Okay.

SPEAKER_12 59:52

Going into it. Yeah. You know, yeah. That's that's kind of it's a choke point before it goes into the culvert.

SPEAKER_04 59:59

So, I mean it it that's why I asked whether it was so obviously it's not hydraulically connected before the culvert and before that channel. So it's gonna it's gonna increase the carry in an area that may not be of the greatest concern, but that's what I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_15 1:00:24

Because there were uh you required one on one connection. One up and one in the middle.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:31

When I was out, I only saw one.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:34

Did you ask why they had to take the trees down? Is it going to be to serve land around it? Is that why they're gonna cut that land in order to take it to wetland? Or is it access?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:49

Because that's well I think the thought process for them was that they to turn that into a wetland, they needed to take those trees up.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:03

So it goes back to my original question. Is it because they need to get a machine back there in order to access it?

SPEAKER_12 1:01:10

No, because to get to it, it's right off of where the already cleared area is. So it's not that they gotta go through the woods with the machine to get to it. Okay. Um I mean at this point it's just kind of purely discussion because they haven't brought forth uh an actual request, but we wanted to discuss it under the site visit that we did. So it's ever it's in everybody's mind, and um you know it could be coming down the line. So did they draw? Or did they go with the Yeah, they shifted it a little bit here?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

That was my concern.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:18

That area that they wanted you originally do was higher than the other area.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

Is that going to look zone? Or is he just gonna flip that?

SPEAKER_12 1:02:29

Um I think that's all I have. As soon as we sign that. Anyone else have anything?

Online Permitting Changes And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_09 1:02:47

Oh, you have a it's just a FYI that all along the um the past couple years, the building department and the arts office have been doing online permitting for building permits, only um this is dog license. Um conservation is never involved in that, but they're going with a new company who um they agree that they would integrate conservation eventually, uh probably in months from now. I mean they're live right now, but we're doing the market. Um it's very new, very fresh. I don't know if we don't know anything about it just yet, but um, it's basically supposed to streamline the application process. Um it'll take a lot of getting used to to do it that way, but uh I think it's just the way the world now. So um we do have bylaws in place that require hard copies and whatnot, so it's not going to bypass that um unless you guys decided that we should bylaws, but um it'll be you know, it will be more digitized and um easy to contract tracking um fees for the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:01

Will the applicant have to use this tool?

SPEAKER_09 1:04:04

I believe so. So I haven't been given any guidance arguments yet other than reintegrating us in trying to get established with the building department in the company right now. Um so it's it's too pump. So we have a lot of the process is gonna be um we don't have somebody in place to give them. It's like starting from scratch as far as the technique world.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:33

Um, so there's gonna be a lot of time to which could be called the badge. Yeah, and then what's it last? What is a whole quarter check? Um we can check and check out that's me back.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:20

So just an FYI and then there'll be a lot of detail getting it set.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:25

But more work for you.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:30

Well, maybe initially get started, but I'm already kind of getting the emails with submissions as it is anyways, and they just nailed their hard copy, so it shouldn't be too different if anything. It might end up being more of a flow once it's done.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:45

Um they submit building plans that way.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:56

Um they're just not going to be required. The icon hard copy in the bylaw.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:08

In the bylaw. Eventually, you know, if this takes off, like everybody wants it to take off, we may have to kind of read the eye log a little bit to match it. But that's the future.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:24

You know, eventually we had a case we have to do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:35

All right.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:36

Yeah. And then lastly, I will just mention Eddie. Um, I don't really anticipate too many, and always it's the end of the fiscal year. Um I don't really anticipate too many, but probably after voice, you know, stuff like that. Um we do have a deadline to get them submitted to the county, so it may be prior to your next meeting, so I may just need at least three. I'll email and whatever creatures then but you would need I try to get created with uh um but if there's anything anybody else can think of all right anything else?

Motion To Adjourn

SPEAKER_12 1:07:28

Motion two second. Motion to be seconded, all in favor? Aye. Opposed, you then thank you everyone.