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THE DOCTOR AND THE DJ
Join Johnjay, the charismatic host of the top-rated Johnjay and Rich show on iHeartRadio, and his trusted doctor Dr. Carrie Bordinko as they delve into the fascinating world of alternative medicine.
In this podcast, Johnjay asks the questions we've all been curious about
Why do some people seem to have found the fountain of youth?
Is Big Medicine really trying to keep us sick?
What's the truth about stem cells, mushrooms, ketamine, and more?
Dr. Carrie provides science-backed insights, helping to separate fact from fiction.
Along the way, they talk to well-known celebrities who seem to know the secret to health and fitness, award-winning doctors, mental health experts, and more.
Tune in as the DJ and the doctor challenge conventional wisdom and explore the possibilities of alternative medicine.
THE DOCTOR AND THE DJ
Exploring AI's Role in Law and Innovation: Insights with Kevin Rowe
Ready to explore the fascinating intersection of law, business, and technology?
Join us on "The Doctor and the DJ" as we welcome Kevin Rowe from Lerner and Rowe to unpack the transformative role of AI in the legal industry. Kevin shares his unique insights on how AI is not just a tool but a catalyst for change, reshaping everything from case management to data handling. We promise you'll walk away with a deeper understanding of AI's potential, its challenges, and the opportunities it creates in legal and radio industries, as well as a fresh perspective on how technology has historically been met with skepticism before becoming essential.
For those curious about the future of marketing and personal efficiency, we discuss how AI avatars and platforms like ChatGPT are revolutionizing content creation and personal tasks. From crafting compelling recommendation letters to efficiently managing social media, discover how these innovations allow professionals to focus on what truly matters. We also delve into the intriguing world of stem cell treatments, where personal anecdotes bring to light their potential impact on health and the pharmaceutical industry. Our exploration includes a candid look at the misconceptions and legal hurdles surrounding these treatments.
Finally, our episode examines the evolution of the legal landscape, including the exciting possibilities of law firm philanthropy and innovative management strategies. Learn about the legal victories against giants like Walmart and the implications of new regulations that allow non-lawyer ownership of law firms in Arizona. If you're intrigued by the blend of tradition and innovation, you'll appreciate our discussion on optimizing sleep habits with technology, highlighting everything from sleep gadgets to AI-driven solutions.
This episode is packed with insights that challenge the status quo, offering listeners a thoughtful mix of technology, law, and personal growth.
so here's the deal. This is our podcast called the doctor and the dj, dr carrie bordinco. She's a dj or she's a doctor, no just got promoted. I'm the DJ from John J Rich Kiss FM. And then our guest is Kevin Rowe from Lerner and Rowe.
Speaker 2:Do we get to sing the song?
Speaker 1:I always have a problem singing the song because I know the jingle. Tell me the jingle and throw the number. Lerner and Rowe is the way to go. Come on, that's what I always grow 9-. You got some of it buddy. So this podcast that we're doing like is we might change the name. Right, you got to be somewhere, you might not. It's rude looking at your watch, no. I'm trying to do an intro.
Speaker 3:Unlike you, I get little notifications. I have to know what they are.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know 97,000 emails. You don't worry about it. That's why I don't have one of those watches. Because of that purpose, by the way.
Speaker 2:Because you get text messages all the time. I actually took my Apple Watch off for this because I did not want to be notified. Kevin See so.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to burn calories here. We're going to our podcast. Kevin is mostly like health nutrition, but we wanted to open up to all kinds of stuff, right?
Speaker 2:And of stuff right. And Carrie's idea was oh, I want to talk about the influence of AI on the legal system, Because I know you and I had a little sidebar a couple weeks ago and you were giving me some things I really never even thought about. Of course, there's a lot of AI influence coming into medicine right now.
Speaker 2:So, I'm in my own little world on how that's going to impact change, but I think people do not really understand the full reach of how this could change the legal system, so we want you to talk to us about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think to start off with things. I'll talk more in general and then about personal injury a lot of my opinions on it, because there's a lot of change, I think, coming. You know, with change there's a lot of hesitation, even as a business owner myself and my partner we're worried about how things are gonna be playing out in the future. But you also have to grasp it. You have to just roll with it, learn it, because the old ways of even marketing or the old ways of handling cases are not the same. I mean, I look at when I'm dating myself, but when I first started out you used to write on a six by five card. You know the client's name and then the next thing you're supposed to do on the case and put it in there. And then you put it on the date You're supposed to, you know, make that, whatever that task was that day. And so when you came to that day you'd have all your cards for that day and all the tasks you're supposed to do. Rudimentary.
Speaker 3:We had our computers back then with what IBM's and the green screens. You're really excited when you graduated up to the amber screens. It was really high tech then. Well things, a lot of change, you know, having software CRM case management systems has been a game changer and in personal injury field and for all lawyers. It has to do with how you're handling data, where data can be located, what kind of reports you can extract with that data. You know, it hasn't even been that long. Maybe 10 years ago, probably 10 years ago, a new CRM-based system for all calls that are coming into a law firm came out.
Speaker 1:What's CRM mean?
Speaker 3:It's basically a case management software. Oh so handling that guy?
Speaker 1:Is that AI?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, not yet, but that's my whole point. Back in the day, when we went from everything being handwritten and put in the file everything you know. If you lose the file, you're done, because everything you got in that file is handwritten. It's not backed up in any way. Then, moving into the computer era, which is what 85, 87, um, maybe even 90 that you're now have computers, that you're starting to store stuff on there. At the beginning they were just for writing letters.
Speaker 2:You know emails adding emails?
Speaker 3:yeah, maybe a little bit, but emails weren't acceptable as a form of communication in the legal field, and not at the beginning.
Speaker 3:So you're writing letters, you know typing instead of using a typewriter because that was the acceptable way, and now you're at least using a Word software to actually perform those tasks and you could save them on a floppy disk and put the disk in the file and, you know, keep using that. But people were really scared on how that was going to happen back then and what that was going to do, and a job's going to be lost, because now we don't need all these different people to do these different things. You know it's now, computers are watching and, excuse me, are storing all that data. But then you fast forward. What, 20, 30 years later? And now you've got the, the ai. We've been talking about ai in general for years, but it seems in the last eight months at least in the legal field, it has skyrocketed that almost every week there's a new software platform coming out for personal injury lawyers or for lawyers in general but to use like how.
Speaker 1:So Like, hey, I was in a car accident, help me do a case and it goes boop.
Speaker 3:It'll just tell you no, so it's well, unfortunately, it does do some of that stuff, and what we were talking about earlier is there's different AIs. You have open AI, which is like your chat, gpt, and all that different stuff.
Speaker 2:Which is not confidential, correct?
Speaker 3:Correct, and it's not necessarily correct in the information it's grabbing from it's open source, so people can put different information on here.
Speaker 2:I don't know if everybody understands that. Actually about open AI.
Speaker 3:Whatever you feed the animal, the AI beast that you're putting the information in that's what it's taking and learning from. So the prime example in the legal field was that lawyer that was in New York that was responding to a brief using ChatGPT and the AI and information it generated, so it wrote his brief for him.
Speaker 1:Was that bad?
Speaker 3:Well, it's bad if you're not checking the facts of your brief, because it started citing cases that didn't exist.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:They weren't real. And so when he didn't fact check and he sent it in to the court, the court fact checked and they realized these things don't exist and it blew up that he used chat gpt oh, that's incredible.
Speaker 3:So back to just the software in of itself. There's lots of new software coming out and you ask what are you using it for? Well, you have new software that is for intake and that's for your initial business. Calls leads from either chats, from social media, from phone calls that are coming in, and how it tracks all that information. That's software that's coming out right now. We are going on to a new software platform for us. It's been around a little bit, but they've really pushed AI on this platform. Um, it's a closed ai within this legal platform, so they have 5 000 plus law firms. So the 5 000 law firms that are on this platform, they're feeding the beast, the ai but how do you guys use it?
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you here's a really cool way. So if you have a deposition and you have a thousand page medical records, you know it would typically take a paralegal or a lawyer who's going to review it, to summarize those medical records. It would take three to four days, maybe three days, because you're really you're writing everything, you're typing everything out and and doing a lot of stuff. It probably took three days. You know six hours a day that they're actually doing it.
Speaker 3:Um, ai now can do it in 30 seconds, and 30 seconds to the point that it's so accurate that it's pulling out the diagnostic code and it's giving you a hyperlink let's just use, you know, the traumatic brain injury tbi that it's looking for. It will group everything that and the page that tbi is mentioned, traumatic brain brain injury is mentioned. So if you had to go back and there's a certain you wanted a reference in your deposition or which we're writing, uh, a brief or something you want to go back and just click the hyperlink and it'll take you back to the pages. So that's good, it's great. Oh, ai, I think as a whole, is going to make law firms.
Speaker 1:It's going to make any business I think people are afraid afraid of it, just like you said about everything else, because it's in the radio business right now. I was just at a big radio convention a couple weeks ago and the big thing was everyone was scared of AI and they're anti-AI. And the thing about AI there's actually a whole radio station somewhere in Portland. I think that is just AI. It's a woman DJ that does whatever, but you can kind of of if it's long form audio, you can tell eventually that it's a computer. Um, but the thing about ai is it doesn't really know humor, so it doesn't really. You know there's personality traits that it can't do. But I remember people were afraid of compact discs. People got way afraid of napster and online music and downloads, especially the artists, and now that's the way music comes out.
Speaker 3:Now again, it's change and I think you're kind of hitting the nail on the head that I think what people are really scared of is AI is going to make you more efficient. Yeah, whereas one person could handle X amount of files, now with the use of AI that person can probably double, triple, and I'm not saying if you can have been.
Speaker 1:So then you'll reduce your staff.
Speaker 3:That's where people are afraid that could absolutely sure seem like all these djs, you know?
Speaker 2:oh, my god ai, I'm gonna lose my job yeah, but half the time what we find out is we repurpose those individuals to do another, more important job I mean, I don't I don't know at any point in time where we stand around looking.
Speaker 3:You know that we have to excess labor right now, so this is a good thing yeah, no, look as a look as a business owner, it's a little scary, but also a great thing, I mean, if it's going to make you more efficient, if it's going to make you more accurate, because at the end of the day think about this there was. My dad told me this, sent me this email, let's say 15 or 12, 15 years ago. And you know Dahmer Chrysler, dahmer Mercedes, yes, so he wrote the top what was it like? Top 100 businesses or professions that will not be around by 2035. And, of course, legal's in there.
Speaker 3:And this was written 15 years ago, 12 to 15 years ago. And he's saying at that time that IBM, watson, ai can, at that time, answer legal questions, you know, 100% faster, with more accuracy, than a human can. So you're looking at these stats that they have then and you're like, oh my god, you know this is happening now, not 2035. I think 2035 is too far down the road. I think you're going to see some drastic changes. You know my opinion, because my partner says, no, you're off, but my opinion I think it's going to be five years or less will be drastic changes on how personal injury accidents are handled between law firms, and I can even quote that because it may not necessarily be law firms and insurance companies.
Speaker 1:So you might have AI talking to the insurance companies, ai and just work it out without, and then hey, here's the result.
Speaker 3:Take it right so we've had this conversation quite a bit that, um, that's what's going to happen. I mean insurance companies want to cut costs. I mean they're they're the rates. Auto rates in california last year alone or this past year alone went up 54. Here here in Arizona they're up over 22% and continuing to rise because the costs of they add it all in. When they do these things, like in California, they talk about the natural disasters and the fires and homeowners. I mean they're leaving. Most of the big-name insurers are not insuring homes anymore in California. They've left and you're going to see that kind of all over because it's too expensive.
Speaker 3:So when you're talking, if you have an adjuster who's a claims representative who will adjudicate a case and try and resolve it in pre-litigation, so before a complaint has been filed, if you have an adjuster, you're paying that adjuster X amount of money anywhere from nowadays probably $70,000 could be to a supervisor, 150,000 or more. You have that person. There's multiple people. Like I said, you have the claims adjuster, then you have a property damage adjuster, you have a bodily injury adjuster, you have supervisors for those departments. There's a whole bunch of people that are involved. Well, just like you just said, imagine if let's just say I developed an app or an application of some sort that I went on TV and said hey, our law firm. You know, we're the real discount lawyers. Now I can't say that because there's somebody out there that has a discount lawyer. But what if I said here's a true discount. We'll take your case for 9%. Whoa, right now, you know, the average is 33 and a third, or 35%, some are doing 30%, some are doing even higher, and I just come out there and say I'll do it for 9%. But really, what is that 9% going to get you?
Speaker 3:Well, think about this. If I go ahead and say you want to sign up with me, you're going to do all the work. So you're going to upload your medical records, you're going to upload your pictures, all stuff. That's super easy because we're all used to, it's all on our phone now anyways, you know.
Speaker 3:And the other big thing that's going to happen ai is going to help us with these hospitals and and medical clinics and all these different places that have medical records. It's going to be easier to obtain all these records. So now, instead of having to go write an authorization, go there, pay 10 bucks or whatever it is, to get your records. Now it's all going to be electronic. It is already electronic but there's going to be sourced on how to get them right to your phone. You're going to try to upload them to the app and then, when it's all done, you're done treating, you have all your stuff in there the app will put it in a form that needs to be put in and then sending it over to the demand, over to the insurance company, and then the insurance company ai will then see if it can negotiate a settlement. If it can't negotiate a settlement, I realize so you probably gotta approve ahead of time.
Speaker 1:Do you agree to go ai right, right, so then they work it out rudimentary, without a doubt.
Speaker 3:But just in general speaking, I mean, think about this. That then you have, I mean, the client's one who has the authority to do it, accept or not, and to which way they to do it. But there's a couple different things that will be taking place here. You know, one thing is, let's say there's something in the medical records that shows an experienced attorney that, hey, this shouldn't just go the AI route. So we could be, because it's our law firm, be scrubbing medical records independently to see what this client has and, as you're scrubbing, looking for it again.
Speaker 2:I'm just using an example Keyword search of some sort, keywords that come out.
Speaker 3:Let's say TBI boom shows up, or ridiculous symptomatology shows up, or something shows up that could be more indicative of substantial injury that is only being looked at as soft tissue now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the computer could be the one that finds the keyword and then feeds it over to you to say hey, pull this out, look at this Then, and that's it.
Speaker 3:And then you're turning around going back to that individual hey, I know you signed up for 9%, but look, I think at the end of the day, your claim is worth a lot more than you think it is. We think we can help you. And then you have another option and that could be another option for us to the ability to litigate. So, like I just give an example of summarizing medical records, um making charts or or diagrams so it's going to eliminate paralegals?
Speaker 1:again you don't want to say that I want to say it's going to eliminate really anybody.
Speaker 2:I think it's just increasing efficiency I mean if kevin doesn't get drawn into all these cases, that all cases are important, right, but he doesn't get drawn into the ones that are rudimentary, that are easy to settle, and he can focus his time and talent on a case that really has true relevance, you know, to that consumer. I think it enhances the consumer. I think it's no different than what we're looking at in medicine with AI. You know, it's not that every case is not important, every diagnosis is not important, but there are certain things that AI does a very efficient job of helping to educate, maybe has even more time to educate than the doctor has time, and then we can pull our time aside, look for those complicated cases that just don't fit any algorithm and spend time helping people get better faster.
Speaker 3:Couldn't agree more and that's really it. Sure, everybody's case is important to them and it's important to us 100%. But if you just have soft tissue injury, sprains and strains, and you're done treating after six weeks and you're back to normal, great, fantastic. But you don't really need us as much as if you have more complex injuries that are down the line that we actually have to not only make sure the injuries have been diagnosed, um, and they're seeing the proper doctors, and doctors are, um, you know, treating them correctly.
Speaker 1:I shouldn't say well, have you used? Have you personally used ai yet?
Speaker 3:so I have, but on simple stuff like I was explaining to you, so like records, reviews, and that we were amazed that what it's able to pull out Cause you're talking, I mean CPT codes, icd, nine codes are all medical coding that helps with diagnosis and billing. All those codes are are super helpful for us.
Speaker 1:I use AI, um, and I really like it for things like, um, this guy, no, wants to be my. My son's high school coach quit, so they need a new high school coach. And a friend of mine says, hey, could you write me a letter of recommendation? And I was like, sure, and I'm horrible at writing. So I go to the chat GPT and I literally it's like I'm talking to a dude I go hey, I need you to write me a short email that talks about this person and what a great person he is. He played basketball overseas. His dad was the first Phoenix Suns. He's a great guy. He's been with these kids since they were a kid.
Speaker 1:And this AI within seconds it wrote the most beautiful. I copied it. I put his name to who I'm making certain Boom, boom. I sent it to the athletic director of the school. Then I copied the guy. The guy sent me back. He goes oh my God, he doesn't know his AI, his ai. He goes this made me cry. Now he will. Now. Hey, jimmy, that was for you, but jimmy cried and he cried and he said it was unbelievable and I was like I could have never done that myself so here's something crazy that other ways I'm using ai and it's kind of up in the marketing alley.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, doing a podcast or doing commercials or radio cuts, you know we do all these things. I'll come with you and we'll do. You've been with us when we film commercials, tv commercials and radio spots and all that stuff. It takes a lot of time, especially to write them. So you just talked about sure, we've used chat bt, chat gpt to write radio scripts or tv scripts. We've definitely used that before. Um, there's a new way. It was social media. It just takes up so much time, energy and effort to do social media clips. So instead I have an avatar. Oh, and my avatar does all the clips.
Speaker 1:You mean a little cartoon avatar or like a human avatar? It looks like you.
Speaker 3:Meaning it is me, oh, and you think it's me and everybody thinks it's me, but it's not.
Speaker 1:Has it already hit.
Speaker 3:So there are some things and you kind of hit on it earlier about voice tones, yeah, that kind of stuff. So there's TV spots out there right now. Now you're not seeing me, you're just hearing my voice because there's graphics over it, and that's not you talking? But if you listen, you may be able to. Since you know me so well, you'll be able to listen. Hey, that's not. It sounds kind of, but it's off.
Speaker 1:So it can't nail the inflection. I have access to a program like that that we do for the radio show. You can use anybody's.
Speaker 3:Here's the cool thing about this type of program is now, I don't have to spend, you know, 20 minutes or an hour writing up whatever the script is we're going to say. I don't have to memorize it or do whatever it is, I don't have to act it out, because you're not it.
Speaker 3:Because now what they're able to do is and it's probably going to be used all over China but you have you sit in front of your screen at the office and and you have your camera and they want you to speak and do mannerisms for a minute. So I'm like hi, the sun is outside, the sky is blue, john Jay's here, how about you? You know doing a whole bunch of silly things, and then it's got it, their algorithm's got it, and then you wait about two minutes and then they go. Here you are Now you just have to give it a script and I can change my clothes so I can be in red.
Speaker 1:I got to see this.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's pretty cool, but it's you, but it's me. And I turned around and did I'm not going to tell you the exact words I used, but I did an old Ice Cube lyric and a Tupac lyric. I threw in there and it lyric, and it was, and a tupac lyric. I threw in there, um, and it was hilarious because it's trying to use my voice, because, remember, it got my voice from me speaking, um, and it's absolutely off key, which is probably normal, how it would be. But, yeah, it's got, uh, um, what did I say? It's like bad boy killers and it's me saying it on the other end.
Speaker 1:It's pretty crazy but there's also it's video of you. It's video I gotta. It's video of you. I got to see that, I see the audio thing is easy, yeah, the video thing I can't.
Speaker 3:No, and that's what the greatest part about it is. Now all I have to do is have a script and then, because you're talking like 15 second spots for TikTok or all these little things you can do Now in an hour, because I'm not doing, all I'm doing is typing in the script or uploading the script in the script, because, again, it's not going to be the greatest content. You know it's. It's not like you know you're how you're filming and stuff now, but it's content enough for TikTok or Instagram that you're just trying to get out whatever's in that script, talking about new laws or things are changing or something that's, you know, in the personal injury realm that people need to know about. And it's pretty simple and I didn't think of it. I was at a conference in was it May, april or May and this guy was like man, it just takes so much time to do all these things. Now I can do 100 a month, whereas I was doing like eight to 10, because it just consumed so much of my time. And we also have practices to handle at the same time. You're trying to handle these practices law firms and do this marketing, and let me tell you it's that's another thing.
Speaker 3:Glenn and I were on the older end of the spectrum and so trying to get into tick tock or ticky tockies, I'm not even on it, so I don't watch. I know my kids are, I know I know my oldest, taylor 23,. She's on it all the time telling me what everybody else is doing. I'm just not. I, I have so many other things I'd probably rather do with my time, and I think the old man's Facebook takes up a lot of my time and Instagram. So no man, I I don't. But this saves plenty of time and I'm telling you it's pretty great.
Speaker 1:I've used AI. I did something. I wasn't even going to share this story. I was, I was gonna. I was thinking about telling the story on the radio, but I can't. Maybe I can get away with it here and my wife Blake she's here. She doesn't know this story, but, like I don't know if you guys, my wife and I share memes all the time back and forth, right, sure, funny memes back and forth, and her back hurt a couple days when she's really out and she's like mine, yeah, yeah, like yours actually.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bad, bad, um. And so I was upstairs and I went to chat gpt and I said can you make me a meme? And it said, sure, make you me. And I asked the chat gpt to make a meme that giving oral sex to your husband helps your back, okay. So the chat gdp, chat gpt, says that's inappropriate, I can't cross that line. And then I'm like. Then I'm like, wait a minute, this is medical and I'm trying to do all these medical terms and I can't get it. So it makes a meme. It makes the memes, but it uses different language. It's not strong enough, so I never sent it to her. But I have the memes, but they're like the. Anyway, it never worked out, but unlike your back, it has never worked out.
Speaker 2:No, the oral sex thing kevin, that is your own damn fault it's not.
Speaker 1:Uh no, I'm actually feeling good speaking of your back, let's segue into this, since we've spent four hours talking about ai. Um, still a lot more coming, though. But what about, like? One of the things that dr bordenko and I, or dr carrie and I, are into are stem cells. Yes, right, I mean, I think we're all going shortly. We've been on trips before to Mexico. What's your take on stem cells? How do you feel about stem cells, and I mean the kind that you can't get in the United States? And, carey, I still don't know the right answer when people ask me why can't we get these here? I still don't know.
Speaker 2:They prove to have true harvested stem cells from someone other than yourself. You can harvest a stem cell that you have in your bone marrow and re-inject it into your body. That's perfectly legal. It's your tissue. But it is illegal or banned in the US, according to our government to harvest stem cells from another human and put them into you in indications other than like leukemia, lymphomas, what we call blood cancers and those are very specific types of cells that only come from bone marrow. So that gets really kind of confusing.
Speaker 3:I'm getting in the weeds. It's input. You can extract here and harvest it.
Speaker 2:You could? Yes, you could do that, but you cannot put it back into someone else who is not the genetic you.
Speaker 2:Correct and that's why you have to do it and that even some people say, oh well, I kept the umbilical cord from my baby when it was born and they froze it so I'll just use that. You actually can't do that either. Just because it is your offspring does not mean you have legal rights to it, so it's. You know, it's something that's been around. I mean, we've been doing stem cells now for 20 years. It's not even new technology. That's what's really scary about this. But it is a banned usage of that biological product and every you know doctor, every hospital, they have to follow what the government says. You can't just go around willy-nilly putting things in that don't belong and it's different.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm just curious. What do you? What is your take? There just needs to be more studies on the uh effectiveness or no?
Speaker 2:I think we have some really good studies actually out there on the effectiveness. I mean I believe that it just gets into turf wars in the medical system and I mean that's as blatant as you can get right.
Speaker 3:It would impact too much Are we talking about big pharma?
Speaker 2:We might be talking about the trillions or beyond trillions of dollars that big pharma makes, because I think the impact points of where it can really decrease the need for future medical care as far as more testing, more surgeries, more pharmaceuticals on a daily basis. I mean. I love giving the example of ulcerative colitis, a very big ticket item for Big Pharma. Those biologicals can be anywhere between five and $50,000 a month for the life of the patient. That is a cash cow. There needs to be a better name for it. But if you can turn that off, if you can turn that spend off by giving stem cells, which there's a lot of great data in the UC and Crohn's area wow, and we've seen people.
Speaker 2:We've seen people, we know firsthand people I mean even very respectable GI doctors behind closed doors or will whisper to the patient. I can't say this to you, but it does work, you know, because they don't want to lose their tenure, they don't want to lose their position in their GI department.
Speaker 1:But I feel that people will tell me I can get stem cells here and I'll be like, yeah, it's your own. No, no, it's not.
Speaker 2:Well, no, okay. So, first off, the word stem cell is like using the word Kleenex for tissue, right? I mean it's become synonymous with a product that it is not. People are getting cells that are harvested from other areas, either different areas of the umbilical cord or from the placenta, and those are what they're getting. That is a different origin cell that does not have the same impact. It does not have the ability to I always like to say, kind of grow up and be something different when it's in you. Those cells are already derived cells that are just going to work either in muscle tissue, because they're already muscle cells, I mean, there's just there's so much harvesting, like I said, of bone marrow, either from the person, which you're not talking about, or that they're deriving cells directly from a post-production product that is not the same as an umbilical cord tissue, which is what we're talking about when we go out of country.
Speaker 1:Okay, and we go to Cancun, we go to ReHealth.
Speaker 3:I know you talked about this, probably before, but I get people, and I'm sure you do too. Well, it's going to alter your DNA.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, that's another great myth. Somebody else's DNA you know?
Speaker 3:how do you know it's healthier, how do you know it's not going to alter yours?
Speaker 1:So how do you feel now that you've done it a few, you've done like three times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I go, this will be four. Um, I can tell you, the one thing that has made a huge difference in my life cells is definitely and I notice it from minute one um, I have two young petri dishes at home. Um, one is nine and one just turned six, and they bring home diseases weekly and um, I was getting sick at least once or twice a month. No doubt once or twice a month, and my wife was not. I'm getting sick ever and I just figured I'm older, so it's I'm more susceptible, all this stuff. Um, soon as we did the first stem cell study, um, I wasn't, I wasn't getting sick, uh, and it's been what? Three times now, every six months, basically what about like other things?
Speaker 1:like when I look at you, your, your face is like what's, what's more vibrant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like you have a vibe about you that I think wasn't there before. Stem. That is a beneficial side effect. Right, it's a side effect.
Speaker 2:I say skin and hair. You would never tell somebody to go do it for that. But everybody will walk up to you and go what product are you? Using your hair looks fuller, it looks healthier, your skin looks better.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying the biggest thing for me is I haven't been sick in over 20 months. I, I mean, I've had COVID. I haven't had it. My wife's had COVID Sleeping right next to me coughing in my face. Not sick, not sick. Let me tell you, I've had COVID four times before you know, even getting stem cells. So my kids have had bronchitis, you know the common colds, pneumonia my wife had, I mean all these different things that have been around me and I have not been sick.
Speaker 1:Knock on wood is there. You know we've talked about ai. We talk about stem cells. Is there a reason that you felt compelled to not dress up for this podcast today?
Speaker 3:yeah I just thought you're gonna get the true version of me. Just thought I'd be here for you, buddy wait, I want to.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna jump all over the place because I want to go to your law firm real quick. In all the years you've been doing what's like the biggest settlement lorna rose ever got ah, are you about that? We have confidential.
Speaker 3:But here's the other stuff too.
Speaker 1:You don't have to tell me who it is?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I know Single event, because here's a couple different things. So when we go out there and say we have collected billions, yeah, I do your commercials on the radio.
Speaker 1:billions and billions for your clients, right?
Speaker 3:so when we say that because there's other firms that do, things different, but we've collected over a billion dollars for our clients just in the last four years, and what I'm not including in that, which some other law firms will include, is our mass tort department collection. What are mass torts? Yes, so the recalls or the roundup weed killer. So we have a lot of those cases. 3m earplugs for the Iraqi Afghanistan war vets. These 3M earplugs were defective and so they had injuries.
Speaker 1:You're not including that in your billions.
Speaker 3:I'm not how come Because we don't need to. We're focusing on just when we do these commercials Individual cases.
Speaker 1:We're talking about the car accidents, the slip and falls, those individuals. Oh, you're not talking about these massive lawsuits for these massive companies?
Speaker 2:No, but we have them In the numbers, right we?
Speaker 3:have. We're just not including them in our numbers, like I think you just probably just did. A recent one that has now been it used to say we've collected a billion dollars for our clients over the last five years. Well, based on last year and what we're doing this year, which is going to beat last year's numbers pants off is we've collected over a billion dollars in four years now. So it's, I mean, we're pretty proud of that and we're proud of the. You know the clients were able to. You know that we're able to do this for them. I mean, we have plenty of these stories, but I have one story.
Speaker 3:This lady comes in and want to talk to me, just say thank you, and it was really sweet. I meet her up front and she goes I'm getting X amount of money and, oh my God, you don't understand. Um, it's a life changer and I wanted to know, I want to say thank you and I wanted to know can you set me up with a financial advisor? And I'm like, ah, I mean I can give you people that we know, but that's kind of up to you and how you want to do it, and that was only one part of her case. It's a lot of money, but it's not in the millions by any means, but it's the impact you can have.
Speaker 3:And I, I we have staff meetings every month. I have one on Thursday this week and I continually tell our staff the same thing, and over and over again. In our business we have the ability to have a positive impact on people every single day because they came to us, trusted us with their case and to have an outcome that, hopefully, is just for them and we'll fight for them. You know there's other law firms that don't necessarily fight. They're paper pushers. They don't have a litigation department. We have 14, 15 attorneys that's all they do is litigate cases, meaning if it can't get resolved, then we'll move it into litigation and go fight the clients.
Speaker 2:Well, that goes back to AI right there, because AI is not going to replace your ability to litigate.
Speaker 3:Correct, litigation's not going anywhere. And that goes back to when I was talking about that list that Chrysler Dahmer said and one of the professions was legal profession he said 97% are going to be obsolete. You have the specialists, so the trademarks or the patent cases, ip stuff like that, you're always going to need a lawyer. But then you have the litigation, so litigation, you're always going to be fighting in a courtroom. I mean, I know right now that there's what didn't Elon Musk just release? An AI bot like an actual.
Speaker 3:I don't know if it's not a human, but a person like. A physical presence, a physical presence. There you go. I mean George Justin's right around the corner. I mean George Justin's right around the corner. I mean I'm assuming our food's going to be coming in little packs and we're already doing the bar as soon as it's going to be a full meal.
Speaker 2:Great More processed foods.
Speaker 1:Yay, you don't have to say the name, but I'm just curious to the number. You got one person.
Speaker 3:The biggest number. You got one person, yeah. So we've got a couple over $10 million we got.
Speaker 1:When you're easy, and do you still go into court and fight or not?
Speaker 3:It's almost a full time. Here's the thing I'm at the end of my leg of doing this. I mean I'm 25 years I think roughly into this right now. Well, I've been partners with Glenn or working with Glenn for 26 years, this August, this past August Pretty crazy when you think about that, because two alphas and how are they working together? For that long I've actually been separate offices.
Speaker 2:We do have separate offices.
Speaker 3:Now I think it's just growing and learning each other over time. Be honest with you. He'll be the first one to tell you there's certain things I do and he does better than I know. He does better than me. I mean, then you have those things where you come together and I really need your help. I really want to hear your side of this, and so on and so forth. So it's been a we sure we've had our ups and downs, but it's been an awesome 26 years. I mean, when I first came out I wouldn't have thought of this at all. This is what I'd be doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't go anywhere in this town without seeing or hearing about Lerner and Rowe.
Speaker 2:Not even this town, I mean Nevada.
Speaker 1:California, yeah, all the ways.
Speaker 3:I mean again hopefully good stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean look you can't make everybody happy but you try and as many people happy as possible, even what you give back to the community. That part blows me away. I don't think anybody competes with that and I think people try to look at I almost feel other law firms are trying to do stuff because you do it and I wouldn't disagree, right.
Speaker 3:But that's a good thing, right?
Speaker 3:Because if you were there, I think one of our, maybe 10 years ago, one of our uh, one of our golf events or annual golf events I was speaking to a bunch of other lawyers that come to our event and I was like, let's stop taking, as lawyers we're taking, we want business, we want more, more, more, more.
Speaker 3:Let's start giving back, and I don't care if it's in your time, because not everybody's got the opportunities that we have or the resources that we have, but if it's in your time, um, um, get, let's give back and help more. So I can't get upset when I see somebody, another law firm saying, oh, you know doing the exact same things we're doing, uh, that's great, it's helping more people in our community. I'm proud of that. If I had anything to do with them wanting to do that and get out there, I'm I, I'm so happy you don't even know. I think it's the most impressive thing that if I have that ability I don't know if I do, but if I have that ability to have somebody else want to give their time, get their staff involved, write a check to help others in the community. I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 1:Well, also the same line. When you look at the advertising everywhere, I mean to me I feel like you started that, like now, whenever I see another bus board or a bus with another law firm on it, I'm like they're copying you. It irritates the hell out of me. I know I can't do it, I'm just telling you One we didn't.
Speaker 3:We're not the originators on it, but yeah, we came. You know when we first started out? We started out in Las Vegas. I don't know if a lot of people know that in Las Vegas we weren't. The first was a niche. One of the big guys back in the day I had somebody recently just go, you know there's. There's stuff that I don't agree with in marketing and, and my and like, in my view, is don't buy other people's names. Like keywords, google keywords you can buy people by the term learner in row. Wow, and that's for me, I think it's shady. I mean, how could it not be so? A lot of people don't know. I mean, I'm assuming you guys here, but a lot of people don't know. Especially when you're on your phone and you type in learner in row, the first three that pop up are ads.
Speaker 3:They say sponsored ad yeah, they didn't always say sponsor, but yeah, they say. And most people I find it more people that are less tech inclined or even are like my mom, you know, my mom and dad in their age, they don't know. They type in learnerowe, they click the first thing that pops up. Because the first thing that pops up is not saying it's not Lerner and Rowe, it's saying you know, call us, we'll win big. You know, or voted best, and can you fight that or no? So we have been because, again, we don't think it's fair and there's different rules and different laws in different jurisdictions. Some jurisdictions have said it's against the law to do Others, and ours being one, we're fighting right now, right now as we speak, and so we'll see how it turns out. If you're allowed to do it, then so be it.
Speaker 3:But a gentleman that I was friends with goes. You know, it's not a big deal because everybody does it and you did it when you first started out and that's where I went. No, there wasn't the internet when I first started out and that's where I went. Um, no, there wasn't the internet when I first started out. Um, we had, we had phone books and we would buy the double trunk or the back of the phone book and put little magnets on the front so you put it on your your refrigerator.
Speaker 3:No, we didn't do this and it's not something we do now, even if we had the ability to. Um, it's just. I think it lacks integrity and I think it's, you know, shady. If you're looking for learner in row, then you should be able to get learner row and not have to fight and sift through to where they're at. You know, if you're looking for personal injury attorney in phoenix, fair game. All those words are open, fair, but the trademark terms learner in row, or one call, that's all, or interact need to check I would think that'd be something that you would be able to win quickly and all may be groundbreaking if no one else is we're fighting it, so we'll see how it turns out.
Speaker 1:But where is it in the case? Like, are you in front of a judge? I know a judge.
Speaker 3:She was just here, yeah um, we are actually so we're at the lower court level and the lower court level actually decided almost wanted to split the baby and and we said don't, we don't want to split it, we need to know, you know. And and the other side basically even said they go. Yeah, we've gotten cases that people asked for you and give us a list of those amount. So the judge took, went that side. We said don't split it, went, took their side, we appealed it. We just had hearings that took place I think it was a month and a half ago, two months, maybe three months ago. So we're waiting to see what the appellate court says.
Speaker 1:Do you go to a lot of the court cases that Learn and Row represent? It really depends.
Speaker 3:If there's something you know good that we have coming on. I mean you got to figure 90, 95, 96% of the cases settle before, regardless. If they didn't settle on pre-litigation, I mean before complaint, they'll settle on mediation, arbitration. You know they'll settle, they'll resolve um. The cases that don't the other three, four percent that don't um, they may still resolve down the line or right before a jury's picked um called for dire um. A lot of times they settle right on the court steps. Basically, uh, excuse me. And then if it's a good case like either I want to see the attorney, I want to see how things you've got to remember me being in the courtroom can be prejudicial to our client.
Speaker 3:Remember, we're the advertising guys. People see all over the place. So you can have people that either love or hate advertising marketing and the jury sees that I'm there and this whole thing. It can be prejudicial. But there are times I've gone in to watch and see what our people do sit far in the back and just want to see how the jury is, want to see how our attorneys are doing, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this I've been watching all these true crime documentaries and this Lacey Peters.
Speaker 3:The worst date ever, the worst ex the worst ex ever, that one.
Speaker 1:But there's some of these cases where they know I'm going to get this lawyer. He's the one that was on the oj trial, he's the one that helped this murder trial garrigos yeah, garrigos that guy right right, right right. You saw that scott peterson yeah, I saw the scott peterson one, but are there? Is there a case that you can talk about that? Oh, that case? That's the learn on row case, do you mean? Is there anything? They got that big.
Speaker 3:I mean, I don't know if we have anything that's really. I mean, I'm just trying to think off the top of my head. That's groundbreaking. Either in law because that's typically what you're fighting about is going to be either a legal issue or a money issue, monetary issue or both. It can be both.
Speaker 1:But it's not like yo. You saw that freaking bus that ran into the Walmart truck. Yeah, that ran into the Walmart truck. Yeah, that was a learn-to-roll case we got.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. We had a Walmart infringement case that Walmart literally grabbed. It was a trademark infringement. This guy is and I can't get into what it was, but literally and you see them Like if you walk into Walmart. They're still using them, but they finally had. I mean they were getting away with it for years.
Speaker 2:Walmart was breaking the law. You sued Walmart. We went after Walmart. That's a hard one. Did you win? Yes, we did. Yeah, the guy made out really well.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine the size of the lawyer team on the Walmart site they had quite a few and it's just three of us and stuff like that, but it's a big deal. I mean, again, I can't get into it, but I would bet you, if you walked into Walmart and you looked up at some of the marketing they have there, at stuff they have around there, one of those is probably the ones that they had to pay to use.
Speaker 1:So you won, but they also run the right to use what they were doing before and continue to pay for it. Oh wow, but crazy stuff.
Speaker 2:So, Kevin, who's the legacy you keep referencing that you and Glenn are kind of in the latter years. You've been practicing a really long time. Who's going to be the next learner in a?
Speaker 3:row. That's interesting. So we are really spending, and you kind of alluded to it earlier. Are you still going to court? Are you still doing this and managing a firm? But managing a firm, not only in all these different states takes a lot of your time. We do a lot of seminars across the nation about picking up other law firms. So right now we're looking to acquire law firms. So, and we're talking about exit strategies for others, about acquiring law firms like we'll take it over for you, especially people that may not have a strategy already planned out or they want to go do something different, and so we're going across the nation. I fly to Utah tomorrow and we're there all day talking with a bunch of different law firms.
Speaker 1:So you buy the law firm, keep it the name don't turn it.
Speaker 3:It's already a brand. I'm not taking it. I don't want to make it learn a row.
Speaker 1:I want to keep whatever it is meanwhile there could be also be a learn and roll law firm in that same city there could be 100.
Speaker 3:I mean that world's better to do it in your home state than your city. It makes a lot easier to run. I already right, you know that's the thing we. We already have staff and you talked about it earlier, repurposing staff. I mean, at the end of the day, if we continue to grow, I may not have to.
Speaker 1:But do you have to update your legal license to own those or no?
Speaker 3:No, so as long as you're licensed, a licensed lawyer, you're fine, like Glenn's, not licensed in Arizona.
Speaker 1:But you are yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, so I couldn't start a law firm and hire lawyers, that's interesting.
Speaker 3:It's that way in the medical system as well. Only a doctor can buy a doctor. Okay, so this has changed, though just recently I think it's maybe three years now Is it 2021? Um, the, the Supreme court in Arizona came out with um alternate business structures, that you can be a non-lawyer um and own a law firm. Now, uh, they've changed a lot of different things and I'm paraphrasing a lot of stuff, but you have to go through a background check and everything with the supreme court. So if you own more than 10, they have a full background. You have to answer a bunch of questions and all this different stuff. But if you're approved to be ownership of this structure, this entity, this abs entity, then you can actually own law firm.
Speaker 3:So what, what did that do? That opens up for private equity, you know venture capitalists to come in and so the weird I mean, they came in quick and they're here. You're seeing law firms that are marketing on TV. You just don't know that. They're not local, you know, but they're acting like they are, but they're based out of Florida, their main offices are in Florida or stuff like that. They're here and that brought a lot of money in marketing here and it was all done in the interest or access to justice, which I always thought was kind of a little odd. Because we're free, you don't pay us unless we collect unless we win.
Speaker 3:So everyone has access so and there's different things they're obviously looking at. You know criminal justice. We're now paralegals. If you pass the test and apply, you can actually represent individuals in certain court capacities. Um so, without being a lawyer without being a lawyer kind of like um pas yeah in our industry right, there's all these people.
Speaker 2:They're doing stuff that aren't doctors you can play doctor but not have the degree nuts right, it's kind of waters down the md, waters down the jd, I mean at the end of the day, but, um, you're seeing a lot of that stuff happening here and they're here.
Speaker 3:They all came here thinking because we're the only state in the entire united states that ripped off the band-aid and said let's just do this. Utah has it like on a sandbox, a case by case approach, and they've been doing it for a while like that, but we're the only state just said, yeah, anybody, we welcome you all, come on in so that because there are a lot there, are.
Speaker 3:I mean there's, there's I mean I don't know a lot, maybe 90, that there's approved abs's structures, those, those structures that are out there, um, and they got back in. I know a couple that have, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in marketing stuff. But here's the thing. The problem that they're having and it's a problem from day one is if an accident occurs in Nevada and so the jurisdiction is Nevada, you have a Nevada attorney, that's fine, it's handled in the case, but you're based here. How are you splitting fees with a non-attorney that were derived from an accident and made from an accident in Nevada, when they don't allow you split fees with an attorney you may hear in Arizona, but fees came from an accident in in nevada. When they don't allow you split fees with an attorney you may hear in arizona, but fees came from an accident in nevada, that jurisdiction, so you can't bring it back here and split those fees with a non-lawyer. You can only do it in arizona. So think about that.
Speaker 3:And, like I said, some utah. So they came rushing out here to be able to do all this stuff. And I, like you, know, big thing is when you have that kind of money, you want to do national, national marketing is great because you get cheaper rates, you get more, you reach more people. When you're in a market like ours, or California or Nevada or Texas that are really big markets Atlanta, these big markets that they have you're spending a lot of money. The cost per case acquisition to get a case now has gone up 50% in the last four years because of those things and because now we're obviously in political season, so they're buying out a lot of different stuff and all that stuff, but it's it costs more to actually get a case now.
Speaker 1:You know what? Let's shift gears a little bit to medical stuff and health stuff because, because you know I'm your patient right and and and. Years ago, when I signed up with you, you told me to get the aura ring right. So I have one of the first aura rings Gen one yeah. And Kevin has an aura ring. And him and I. I'm on that. Your circles, your friends, yeah, I see his, so I look at his sleep score.
Speaker 2:I didn't invite you to my circle, Kevin.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, last night I took my own. Oh, I thought your sleep score to me looked like you died yeah. You were at a 34. It was, yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 2:last night you were the 90 king.
Speaker 3:No, I was, and I was, and lately with travel. So I got home late last night from New York and that kind of got me. I was kind of wired. You know how you're really tired on perfect couple and let's finish that. Did you finish it? No, but you get into it and then you're like, oh my God, I've got to watch the next episode, and next year. I know it's one.
Speaker 1:Well, what's your sleep routine? The stuff you take, what Carrie would think of the things you?
Speaker 2:do. She's going to say you're crazy, the things that you do to go to sleep.
Speaker 1:I think I've already called him stuff that he does the blackout.
Speaker 3:The blackout's terrible. I don't know where you got that from. Who would go on air talking about that? Seven years ago I stopped taking it. Um, because I but it's almost now. Mentally it's got. If I don't have it now, I went to magnesium I got that from her the powder, the lemon powder that's the same as blackout, but healthier. So I have to take both. I did last night trying to get myself to sleep just turn the tv off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you used to take freaking a sleeping pill yeah, and then right yeah, I try so many different things right now, because the hardest part is not staying asleep. When I go to sleep, I'm good. When I'm out, I'm out, like I did the other night when we're in new york. The first night was horrible sleep. Then I went to bed like 10 o'clock and I woke up at 8, and I was dead to the world. The battery died, so I didn't get a chance to see that I died.
Speaker 2:Doesn't it kill you when you don't get credit for what you do?
Speaker 3:I was like I got a 90. No way I'm going to compete against you.
Speaker 1:What's your highest score you ever got?
Speaker 3:97. You, you got a 98.
Speaker 1:No, I got a 97. I don't think I've ever got a 98. I thought you did hey listen anything over an 88 consistently is a win okay, it really is Anything over 88, you'll get the little crown.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:But anything over 88. Consistency, because what it really matters is consistency. If you have 97, 34, 97, 52, that's wrecking your brain, it's wrecking your physiological status. I, that's wrecking your brain. It's wrecking your physiological status. I mean you just want to be solid and regular.
Speaker 1:I need to upgrade mine.
Speaker 2:We're not even going to talk about HRV, though we're not allowed to bring up HRV.
Speaker 3:Let's see what she says about this one. What? Because, then I just recently bought a new thing. My wife says what are you doing mining? So I have this new thing that you put around your head like this oh, is it the?
Speaker 2:cool band. No, no, no, it's a, and it gives you electrical stimulations to help you fall asleep.
Speaker 3:Oh, I, I actually don't know. I'm not gonna say the name of it, I'll tell you after.
Speaker 2:But there's one that came out a couple years ago. It looks just like a little mining thing and it actually regulated your temperature because they found out that one of the reasons you couldn't fall asleep was if you're too warm, specifically around head, it stopped you from going into deep sleep. So stage three, stage four, and you put this cool it's called I don't know if it's called a cool band, but cool band on, and then they found people got deeper sleep because of it, but it was kind of annoying to wear and when you roll over, you hold on, I need my phone.
Speaker 3:Amazon, yeah, I need it here tonight. My next purchase purchase I think that I'm going to do tip for my sleep is the um, the sleep eight mattress. Yeah, that's getting a lot of great traction. I mean I have uler, so yeah. So I it came up in my feed and then I left it and I didn't, I didn't do anything with it. Then I speaking to somebody in new york and they're like it's a game changer for you, isn't it? Ai wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Can we circle back around? Isn't got it? Doesn't have some background ai built into? It because it learns yeah, because it learns everything going on through all your devices and then it manipulates what it does?
Speaker 3:it's just a cover right, it's not a full right, it's just a cover.
Speaker 1:I've been looking at this thing for about three years now and I'm getting ready to pull the trigger it's like 25 or 2900 bucks yeah and you put a cover over your bed and there's a machine next to it and it keeps it cool and it wakes you up by it getting warmer I've had that for three years, but it's not that brand, it's the, the people who made the brand.
Speaker 2:I have left to go make the eight well, you said, yours is called uler yeah oh, I never heard and it does exactly that it cools you down and then it warms you up, so you don't wake up to an alarm clock and not obnoxious so I've been studying my, doing my own tests and what I think works.
Speaker 1:And to me, what I think works help you get in the nineties is you have to eat dinner way before you go to sleep, a thousand percent way before you go.
Speaker 3:And I know what else you're going to say right now. But so, um, and you're in New York, you know they don't go to dinner until eight o'clock. It's crazy. And then you're talking about. By the time you're done, it's 10 and I'm already sitting there going.
Speaker 3:I don't want dessert, I don't want anything, it's not gonna work mentally right I'm already getting anxiety right knowing I'm not gonna sleep same and that's what kills me. And then I think you had a conversation with my daughter via dms and you're I was told not to drink that the electrolytes, oh I told her to drink electrolytes.
Speaker 1:Yeah before. I've been doing that I also told her to stop drinking or bcaas, or bcas before bed.
Speaker 2:What's?
Speaker 1:that.
Speaker 2:Branched-end amino acids. Oh yeah, wait do you drink the LMNT?
Speaker 1:I do Because of what I told her. I specifically got it?
Speaker 3:What flavor? Oh, I don't know, it's red lime and da-da-da. Yeah, those are my favorite.
Speaker 1:I do it every day. Well, I grab it when I'm at the facility. If you too we have well, yeah, and we also have um dcaas. I drink hearse throughout the day, and then, when I go in the sauna, I drink the element tea.
Speaker 3:See, the problem is when I fly I get super dehydrated just I'm not drinking, yeah and so last night again, we didn't get home until late. I ate on the plane and that food's horrific, um, and then by the time I drank the Element tea yeah, by the time I had that then I had to have my blackout, which was a whole other bottle of water that I'm drinking with that, along with Maggie's.
Speaker 2:And then you got up four times to urinate.
Speaker 1:Twice.
Speaker 2:Okay, that sucks too, doesn't that suck?
Speaker 1:I said to her I was like I keep peeing a lot. She's like well, welcome to your 50s.
Speaker 3:I'm the most empathetic doctor. Again, I couldn't spread it out. If you can do it where you start doing your electrolytes at 7 o'clock, then for me it would be 7 o'clock, I'm done eating at 6. Start your day with electrolytes. Yeah, that's the first thing I wake up with.
Speaker 2:So did you know a fun fact about AI.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 2:If you ask it how many R's are in the word strawberry, it will only tell you two.
Speaker 3:So there you go again, strawberry.
Speaker 2:Don't trust AI AI.
Speaker 3:Always research before Fact check. Fact check yep.
Speaker 1:I still can't go over that. There's a P in raspberry. That's just me. That's your AI.
Speaker 2:Okay, go ask that one.
Speaker 1:All right, that's just me, that's your ai. Okay, go ask that one, barry, all right, that's a wrap, all right. Thank you, kevin. Rowe. Learner in rowe. Learner in rowecom. The phone number 877-900-0.
Speaker 3:Let's go with 977-1900 dude, I don't know why I can't get that.
Speaker 1:877-1500 is nevada, is las vegas. Well, thank you for your time. Thank you, thank you.