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Summer Reynolds - Dog and Hunt Supply: From Foxhounds to Retail

Kenneth Witt Episode 45

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#45 Summer Reynolds has hunting in her blood. From childhood nights spent howling alongside her father to call in coyotes, to building a nationally-renowned hunting dog supply store in tiny Quitman, Arkansas (population 765), Summer's life revolves around dogs that chase, tree, and track.

During our conversation, Summer takes us through her remarkable hunting journey, starting with foxhound traditions that are gradually disappearing. "Friday night we'd get, Dad would come home from work and of course I would be ready to go hunting," she recalls, describing nights spent on the hood of a truck, eating cupcakes and listening to hounds run until daylight. From foxhounds, she expanded to deer dogs (her beloved "regals" – redbone crosses), squirrel dogs, and eventually coon hounds, gaining expertise across the spectrum of chase hunting.

What makes Dog and Hunt Supply extraordinary isn't just the impressive inventory – though Summer ensures they're never out of anything a customer might drive hours to purchase. It's her authentic connection to the hunting community and commitment to service. Rather than redirecting customers with broken tracking collars to manufacturers, Summer troubleshoots and repairs equipment herself. "I mean there's a lot of people out there that don't know what to do," she explains, "It's just a lot easier for me to say just bring it up here and I'll fix it for you."

Her measured approach to social media – focusing on quality demonstrations rather than daily content – has built a devoted following. The annual Customer Appreciation event has evolved from a simple sale into what Summer describes as "a huge houndsman reunion," drawing 3,000-3,500 visitors from across the country.

Whether you're a dedicated houndsman or simply appreciate authentic businesses built on genuine expertise, this conversation offers a refreshing glimpse into a world where passion, community, and tradition still thrive. Check out dogandhunt.com or download their app to experience Summer's remarkable hunting dog emporium for yourself.

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Speaker 1:

I'm Kenneth Witt and welcome to Gun Dog Nation. Gun Dog Nation is much more than a podcast. It's a movement to build a community of people around the world that like to watch a well-trained dog do what it's bred to do. Also, we want to get our youth involved into the sport of gundogs, whether it be hunting sport or competition. We want to build a community of people united to preserve our gundog heritage and be better gundog owners. Tune in to each weekly episode and learn about training, dog health, wellness and nutrition. We will also offer tips for hunting with dogs and for competition, hunt tests, field trials and other dog sports that involve gun dogs. Please go to our website gundognationcom and subscribe to our email list. We will keep you up to form weekly with podcasts that are coming out. We also will be providing newsletters with training tips and health tips for your dog. You can also go to patreoncom forward, slash gundognation and become a member. There's different levels of membership on there. Just go check that out.

Speaker 1:

Also, we'd like to thank Sean Brock for providing the music for this show. The introduction and the outro is Sean Brock. He played everything on there except the banjo by Scott Vestal and the dobro by Jerry Douglas Sean is a neighbor of mine from over in Harlan, kentucky. I'm just crossing the mountain in Hyden Kentucky and he's a super talented guy. But most of all, I want you guys to check out the Creakers. They are also from Hyden Kentucky and this is an up-and-coming bluegrass and country band and these guys are hot. They're all over TikTok and YouTube. You will hear these guys because in a year or so they will be on the radio. They are very talented. Their videos are going viral on the net. These boys are family. Two of the lead singers one grew up with my daughters and the other one is my cousin's son, so he's family. But check them out. Check out the Creakers Also. Last but not least, if you want to buy a hat, koozie t-shirt or even gundog supplies, go to shop gundognationcom and you can purchase any of those items.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for listening. It's a privilege to have people that want to put up with me talking about dogs all the time. I actually enjoy what I do and I'm so glad to have this opportunity. And thank you all right. Welcome back to gundog nation. I'm coming to you today from midland texas and I've got a very special guest on today. I can't wait to talk about. This is her first podcast, so I feel honored because this lady is a huge social media star and she's done it all on her own and she's built an empire business that I got to visit I can't wait to talk about, and she hunts with dogs, so she does it all. Very impressive young lady. All right, ms Summer Reynolds reynolds, introduce yourself, please, and tell everybody what you do gosh, you're gonna make my head get big.

Speaker 2:

Um well, I'm summer reynolds. I'm from equipment, arkansas. Uh, been in, I've been around hunting dogs my whole life. I started a store about I don't know in 2015, 14, 15, and it's just grown from there.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's an impressive store. Now Summer, I know this, but just talk to the listeners a little bit You've got a really deep hunting, hunting dog experience. Is it coon hunting mostly that you've done, or do you run other dogs too?

Speaker 2:

uh, no, mainly um running, uh, foxhounds, that's what I've grown up doing. Um, when I was small I always went with my dad and we had foxhounds and we ran outside. We didn't compete a lot, we just kind of pleasure hunted. Then, of course, when I got older and I could get my own dogs, I had deer dogs and crossbreeds. I called them my regals. They were big old red bone crosses Really. Yeah, I had those, my regals. They were big old red bone crosses.

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I had those for a while. Then I got a squirrel dog and I enjoyed squirrel hunting just because at that time I had a little boy and it was easy to grab up the dog and hit the woods and hunt for an hour and come back it was a quick hunt, you know get him in the woods. So I've got several um squirrel dogs then and then, um, it's just kind of. When my son got older he got into coon hunting so we got coon dogs and I go coon hunting with him. My uncle is a coon hunter, for he's been coon hunting my whole life, so we started going with him and so I just started kind of coon hunting in the later part of my life. But I've just been around all kinds of hunting really.

Speaker 1:

Well you, you got me down a new rabbit hole now. I've never had anybody on here and honestly, I'd like to learn more about fox hunting oh yeah did y'all do it on horseback?

Speaker 2:

no, um, of course times have changed back then. Uh, you could, I'm. I mean we would. Friday night we'd get, dad would come home from work and of course I would be ready to go hunting. So he'd load up his dogs and we'd go. You know, we called it tanyard hill. We would go down the road and he would usually howl like a coyote and get the coyotes howling. So that's a whole other thing. We used to howl like he'd be like all right, right, you howl with me because your voice is different than mine and it'll make it sound like a female coyote or whatever. So we'd get the coyotes howling and we'd turn loose and we'd sit out there on the hood of the truck on the side of the road all night and we'd have cupcakes or whatever, and usually they'd just run and run and run all night. Well, and then in the morning, at daylight, when we'd catch them.

Speaker 2:

Of course, back then there wasn't no tracking systems, there wasn't no beep, beep callers. It was, you know, they're. Everything was landmarked. They're, you know, down there at the, at the mailbox. So we'd drive down the road, get out and listen. Well, they're going on east, you know. So we'd drive down the road, get out and listen. Well, they're going on east, you know. So we'd go on down the road or whatever. But I mean now you really can't hunt like that as much, because people, if you're, you know, sitting on the side of the road, they think you're doing drugs or something. I mean, you know, they call the cops on you. So a lot of people started going to fox pens and stuff but or say you have, if you're fortunate enough to have, several acres, you can go sit out in the middle of the field and run them all night.

Speaker 1:

But that's how I was raised will you do one of those coyote house for for us? No, I will not. I'd love to hear that.

Speaker 2:

No, I've done them a lot, but I will not.

Speaker 1:

So do you think is fox hunting as big as it used to be, or do you see it slow? Has it slowed down a lot?

Speaker 2:

In my area it's slowed down there's. I mean it's really kind of sad. It when I was younger there was probably you know 25 or 30 guys that were big buddies and friends and we would all you know it would be six or seven of us that every friday night that would meet up and you know what kind of cupcakes are you bringing and we would just sit out and eat snacks all night and listen to the dogs. All that group is kind of dying out. It's kind of sad. But there's about probably five older hunters that still hunt like that here now and then the younger generation of course it's. It's getting harder and harder to hunt big areas because you know everybody's you know big tracts of land is going away. That's kind of a thing of the past. So, um, yeah, nowadays pretty much people go to field trials and box pens and and it's kind of going into that.

Speaker 1:

So moving to the deer the, the deer dogs is something I was never, I never got to be part of. I grew up in Kentucky. We didn't have it, so y'all were breeding red bones to beagles, to pretty much run deer.

Speaker 2:

Well, that was my pack. I mean, a lot of people just had big running walkers or whatever. But, um, so we had a deer camp it's kind of a family deer camp and we would have, you know, over 100 dogs but the whole first week of deer season we would have, you know, we had a big family camp. We hired cooks that came in and you know, we had a big dog pen and so, um, a lot of the guys that came they just had running walkers.

Speaker 2:

But you know, I had some people had beagles, some people had half breeds. I had the half breeds because where we hunted was cutovers and sometimes a little, you know, a little beagle or a little beagle would get hung up in cutovers and stuff where a little bit bigger dog can would, uh, could, get through it. But on the other hand, the bigger dogs when they get after deer I mean they might, if there's a big pack of them, they get after it in about 30 minutes, you know, they might be 20 miles away because they had high tail the smaller dogs seem to just, you know, not scare the game as much and they would just run around and around and it was easier to hunt now is that still legal in arkansas?

Speaker 2:

um, yes, it is. In some places it is on. In my it is on private land. There is some WMAs that you can still run dogs on here. There are some that you can't like. You can't run on the WMAs here in my county but you can run on private.

Speaker 1:

So, okay, I assume that they do that at different times of deer season, right, like it's probably split it up where it's not, where everybody's rifle hunting, or is that wrong?

Speaker 2:

No, I mean here opening day of deer season, it's game on. I mean, if you like to sit in a tree stand, you can sit in a tree stand. If you like to run dogs, you can run dogs. Now it goes back to the group of hunters that we hunt with are a little we try to be real considerate of the stand hunters because you know we're all trying to get along here and we realize that if you're hunting on a stand that you don't want to hear the dogs. So what we do is the first week we give that to all the stand hunters and then, like the second week, um, we run and uh, that that's like the thanksgiving weekend or whatever. We we start that week and we run every day, but, um, we try to give everybody a you know time to hunt their own way. That's just the way we do it. But now when it, when uh, deer season opens, you can hunt. However, here in Arkansas.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know that that's something and I guess y'all maybe Alabama only a few states allows that right that I know of, maybe Mississippi.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, parts of Mississippi, I think. The Carolinas you can. Okay, I don't know the rules and regulations, it's hard enough to keep up with it here in Arkansas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Ain't that the truth? Texas too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, I was in college at University of Kentucky a long, long time ago and a guy down there with us from Alabama told us about that. We thought he was lying. I was like, oh man, you can't do that, you know and can't do that, you know, and I realize it's a thing. But, um, so then you got into something that I enjoyed a lot too. You got into squirrel dogs, so you have five black mountain couriers. What'd you use? Hello, this is kenneth whit with gundog nation.

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Speaker 2:

I've got um, I've got fast Curves, and then I have a Laker, A Laker.

Speaker 1:

Oh yes, Well, I've never hunted with those, but I've also seen people use like a Norwegian Elkhound.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, tell me about that Laker, because I'm not familiar with those much.

Speaker 2:

Because I'm not familiar with those much Well. I mean I've just had a lake about two years, and I love, I mean I love a mountain cur, I've got a mountain vise. I love the dog, I love hunting the dog. I let them run loose in my yard. I mean every day I'm out there tinkering with them if they got a squirrel or whatever.

Speaker 2:

But then as I had this store people that came in here when nobody had any squirrels, the Laker hunters, which there's quite a few in Arkansas they had squirrels, they was killing squirrels. So I was like I want to see what the hop's about, because really the laker hunters wouldn't have nothing but a laker, I mean the, the curs. They don't want nothing but curse, and and I I get it. So I was like I'm gonna try one of these, like, so I got a puppy. I actually got two, and that's hard. Lakers are aggravating dogs.

Speaker 2:

But anyway I ended up getting rid of one of them and so I kept one of them and I tell you what I was at my wits end with it. If he left the hose by the fence somehow or another, he'd pull it through and chew it up and they got a lot of hair and they look like like they need to be pulling a you know a sled and I was like I don't know if I can handle this laker, but I was loading the dogs going uh, with my husband we were going to go squirrel hunting one evening and I said that it just season had got going last year and, um, that pulp is just old enough to start. I said I'm gonna take this dang lake and see if it does anything. I turn it loose and it treed three times and had three squirrels and I was like I'm liking it better already so so now, I like the lake.

Speaker 2:

I mean I put up with him chewing the hose up and the hair and everything, but I still like the curve.

Speaker 1:

So is it pretty high maintenance.

Speaker 2:

I mean they just shed a lot. I mean they're not high maintenance. You can't really hunt them. They kind of like to be hunted by themselves. I think is their main hang-up. They kind of like to fight. They're mean, yeah, but mine's not that mean, but that's just what I hear.

Speaker 1:

How big are they? Summer?

Speaker 2:

I mean, it's a big dog. It looks just like a sled dog oh, wow, okay it's gonna be. Uh, mine's bigger than my cone hound, so and I think I'm right about that.

Speaker 1:

I remember some guys back home that had a smaller, husky looking dog, but I keep thinking it's a Norwegian elk hound. Does that sound right? Or something like that.

Speaker 2:

Maybe something like that. Yeah, it looks just like a wolf to me. As a matter of fact I call them Wolfie, or Two Socks also.

Speaker 1:

But you know I had some mountain cubs that would be aggressive at the tree. They didn't get along with other dogs treeing around them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've had one that was kind of mean too, but most of mine are pretty.

Speaker 1:

So you decided to keep this one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I decided to keep this one. My husband calls it the old man dog, it just. I mean, every time I take it I like it a little bit more Nice.

Speaker 1:

Well, I have to go look them up now, I like it a little bit more Nice. Well, I have to go look them up now because I've heard people talk about them, but it's just the one dog I'm not familiar with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So then you moved on in to coon. You graduated on up to coon hunting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, with your son. My son was in high school and he decided he got a car or truck and a lift kit and he decided that he needed something to do on Friday nights. So we got a coon dog and he hunted him, I mean a lot. He was pretty good, he made the top 16 one year but we would go. I mean he was a walker, his name was Chubb, it was a Mack dog, but anyway, I still have him, we still go, but we don't do any competition hunt right now. We just kind of go for pleasure. I mean, when you have a business it's hard to go to a competition hunt yeah, yeah, you got make your customers mad.

Speaker 1:

Uh, well, speaking of that, so let's, let's talk about that summer. I'm gonna I gotta brag on you here. You're not the top to brag on yourself, but you have one of. You have the number one dog supply store I've ever been in in my life and I travel over the US working. Thank you, it's in Arkansas. We're going to tell them where it's at and everything. How to find you. Heck, there's probably no more people know you on social media than me by a long shot, but what got you into that business?

Speaker 2:

Just, I mean, I love hunting. I love everything about it, I love. I love talking to hunting. I love, um, uh, my dad comes in here and sits down and we visit with all the hunters that come in, and that's I mean. You know, they always say, if you do what you love, it's not a job. So that's, that's kind of what got me started is.

Speaker 2:

Well, let me back up. We have another business and I was trying to. I was working at it or whatever. It was a storage building and and I was sitting in there every day and it was boring and I hated it and I told my husband. I said I've got to do something else. So I just started, um, I started selling odds and ends and it just kind of grew from there. Um, uh, I uh started with a small store and, uh, I was content with that. And you know how people are Sometimes. People say stuff and lots of fires under you and then you just want to prove them wrong. So here we are and we moved into this new location two years ago and I love it every day. I come down here on the weekends, I work seven days a week and I want to be the best hunting supply store there is out there for houndsmen and houndswomen.

Speaker 1:

Well, from what I've seen so far, I think you're there, comfortably there. You know one thing that interests me and I guess how I found out about you. But I actually found out about you from one of your customers that I know. But what I didn't realize is you know, I started watching you on TikTok. What got you to start taking your store to social media? Because it's definitely, definitely paid off?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I don't know, I kind of enjoy. I do not enjoy making the TikToks, that's very hard, but I like editing them and making them turn out to something um but, I don't know, I just I just did a couple videos and uh, everybody responded pretty well. So, uh, I mean it's, it's free advertisement, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So that's how many do you on average? How many do you put out a week?

Speaker 2:

I mean two, I try not to put out a bunch of stuff. It seems like I mean people get tired of I get tired of seeing stuff over and over and I know people get. I mean, even though people's like you need to put one out every day and da really not trying to grow. I mean I'm not trying to grow a huge social media presence and get millions of followers, I'm just doing this for my business and I don't. I feel like that. If you put out, you know, a video every single day that people's like, oh my gosh, it's her again. I'm tired of seeing her. But if you put I mean when you put something out, if it's talking about something and meaningful, that people will be like, hey, what is she saying today?

Speaker 1:

you know, I I mean, that's just the way I look at it but I can tell you it worked on me like I actually had a hunting vest. But you were showing up that it's that pro vest that you had on there and you were showing I love the way you were showing how it holds a cell phone, your dog controller, all that stuff and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm getting ready to take off two months and go hunting up north for upland and I thought that's exactly what I need and I bought one. But had I seen that in a magazine or in a picture I wouldn't have understood what all it does. But your demonstration it worked.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I was like that, you know yeah, that's exactly what I need, so yeah yeah, I mean, even if it's just something that you don't, you know, think, you know, think, well, it all goes back to my dad and all his hunting buddies and they're all older, I mean, they're in their 80s now, and they would come in and be like, can you fix this or can you fix that, and it would be the simplest thing. And so I know out there in the world there's more people like that, that even if you some things you know about you take for granted, that could be just, you know, like the smallest thing. People don't really realize it. And if you just talk about it, then they're like oh my gosh, that's genius and I'm like it's been around.

Speaker 2:

But you know, you have to just show people and um, that's. That's another reason why in my business and my store I try to. You know, when people come in, I try to explain everything in great detail so when they leave they know how to turn on all their tracking systems and pair their callers and and um, uh, they don't have to go home and try to read a manual.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

I just want to say this I want to add this to this commercial because I know the owners of this company. They've hunted on my ranch. Joseph he and I actually met in Colorado on a hunting trip. That was a real adventure. They are true hunters. They've hunted at the ranch, you know, and I've hunted with them.

Speaker 1:

And Anna, she is just amazing. She is the one that came up with this idea. They were both on Shark Tank. They are amazing people, so I love seeing people like this have a business and I just had to say that, in addition to the commercial, because I really believe in the product and I believe in the people that made the product. Be sure and go to foliciouscom or go to Walmart or HEB and try their product. I promise you you will like it. You know, I heard one of your customers say tell me that they've went in there with a Garmin collar or an e-collar, you know and you'd fix it. You knew what to do, you knew what was wrong with it and you know not everybody, most people don't even care, like they'll tell you oh, call Garmin and send it back or you know. But you actually take the time to help your customers and that seemed to resonate, as I'm sure that helps your business.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean it takes a lot of my time and it's very time-consuming to do that. But I mean there's a lot of people out there that you know, they don't know. They don't know what to do. I mean, if you say, well, call Gorman. They're like, well, I mean, where's Gorman, or what's the number? I mean you have to tell them everything and it's just. It's a lot easier for me to just say you know, just bring it up here and I'll fix it for you.

Speaker 2:

And you know, people will drive 200 miles not to have to go to the post office and get a box, you know. So I mean I don't mind to help people, and people are so grateful, you know, when we just take it and take care of it and they don't mind to help people and people are so grateful, you know, when we just take it and take care of it and they don't have to worry about it. And I mean that's what I do for people around here, so I might as well do it for whoever.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, I stopped at your place early in the morning. I was actually going to Memphis to the Ducks Unlimited show and I made it a point to go out of my way. I had to see the store and it was as impressive as I envisioned. But I assume because you are that big and you have such a great stock and inventory of everything, I mean it was unbelievable. I would figure that you have customers from 100 mile radius, 200 mile radius. What do you think is your, your like parameters of for your home base of customers?

Speaker 2:

I, I don't know. I mean, I've always told the girls that work here with me and I'm like we don't want to run out of anything, we want to have plenty of everything because, just like you, you drove uh, I don't know how far, but whenever you got here if you wanted to buy that vest and I was out of it, that would aggravate you. So, uh, oh, I try to have plenty of inventory for of, and so if someone drives that I will have it. But I mean, I don't know, every day people come from out of state. I'll have people from, you know, florida, mississippi, ohio, illinois, oklahoma, louisiana, on a regular basis.

Speaker 2:

I'm probably, you know, I don't know 10 or 15, I don't know 10 or 15 different people every two or three days come from out of state. Well, I mean, my store is in population 765, I think, or 675 or something like that. So my hometown, where this store is, is a very small town, so all my customers at least have to drive probably an hour, because right here in Quitman there's probably just about five people that six that I know of that have running dogs, so everybody else is going to be, you know out at least 20 miles to 50 miles. Um. So I mean I don't know, I mean I don't know what the, what the radius or would be, but I know that everybody most everybody that comes here has to drive at least an hour to get that's, that's crazy

Speaker 2:

that's why I have lots of inventory and I I mean I don't want if someone comes and I don't have it, they probably will never come back. So I'll try to have everything here, and that's another thing. If you order online, you know we don't drop ship anything. We have everything here. So when you call and I pick the phone up and take your order, I can ship it out right then and I don't have to call someone and rely on them to. You know, drop what they're doing and get your order out if you need, especially if you need it quick, and where we're're located is centrally located to all the states, so I can get everything out and get it to you in two days ground shipping.

Speaker 1:

It's impressive and I can at least vouch for what you just said. You've got the inventory. I mean, I can't imagine if you've been out of something. I actually called your store and asked for a very specific item and I wasn't doing it trying to trick anybody. I needed it for upland dogs and I actually learned it off a podcast guest that I'd had two weeks ago. But Greg Blair works for Purina and he was talking about using a tracking collar, but he said he likes the bell and I thought, man, you know, it's kind of hard to find, probably.

Speaker 1:

And I called one of your girls, answered yep, we got them. She had to ask me a couple times. I said it's a little bit, you know. I said, well, I need two. And I said I want that vest too, you know. So, yeah, so anything I could think of you had, um, now I'm gonna. I'm gonna change gears again and go back somewhere. Talk about. I'm real curious, because this is something that's a passion to me. But all these dogs you had Summer, did you train them yourself? Did you learn to train from your dad, or how did that work?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean I train them myself. Like I said, I don't competition hunt, so they're not going to be like the greatest squirrel dogs or whatever and do exactly what every competition dog's supposed to do. But I mean, you go hunting, you're going to come back with squirrels, basically, um, but yeah, I, I train myself um my bagels. I I'm fortunate enough to have um some property, so, um, several places to hunt, so we go out and hunt. And you know deer and deer season, when you're running deer every day, if they're no count on the first day, you know by the third day they're gonna be pretty good.

Speaker 2:

So, um, I have, you know, I have bought, well, my son's coon dog. We bought him but he was a pup, so he was treeing, but now he hunted him every single, I think every single night. So yeah, he basically tuned him up to where he was really good. But yeah, no, it just means more to you if you have a dog and you go out, you know and tinker with it, and tinker with it, and tinker with it, and then finally, you know, it clicks and you're like, you know he might not be the best but he's a shining star in my eyes just because I've messed with him and got him to do what I want him to do. So, yeah, it means more to me if I train him and get him going.

Speaker 1:

It's hard to get people to understand until they've actually done it, but when you actually watch the light turn on on your dog, don't you?

Speaker 2:

I mean, you see the switch and that's that's an exciting feeling yeah it's that's when you you're like so excited and you I'm in my case I call my dad and I'm like you're not gonna believe, but you know, bloody, done this or whatever.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, yeah, it's, it's exciting now I know just from being out there myself at your store I got to ask you a personal question about how many dogs you have. You've got a busy life. That store, I know, keeps you busy, but you still run a lot of dogs right now, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have several dogs. I think I've got six squirrel dogs. I've got a coon dog. I've got six squirrel dogs. I've got a coon dog. I've got seven beagles. Of course, I have to sit here and count. I don't go out there and count them because I'm like, okay, tonight we're going to do this or today we're going to run rabbits and I grab up what I have. But yeah, I've got four running walkers.

Speaker 1:

We didn't talk about that either. How long have you been running beagles?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I've always had beagles.

Speaker 1:

You have a pretty good rabbit population.

Speaker 2:

Yeah well, there, for a while it got pretty thin, but this year it seems to be really.

Speaker 1:

It's really come back yeah, you know, at my ranch I've got both jackrabbits and cottontails yeah, we just got cottontails y' here to around Augusta and hunt swamp rabbits.

Speaker 2:

But I just hunt little patches around my house. Really, I like to sit on the deck and turn my beagles loose and just listen to them. Yeah, yeah, I like to crack the window and let them run all night and just listen. I and yeah, yeah, I like I like to crack the window and let them run all night and just listen. I mean, I, I just like hearing dogs, I don't dog person.

Speaker 1:

I'd sit on a tailgate just, or a lawn chair or whatever. Yeah, uh, I miss. It's been a long time I haven't had beagles in years, but uh.

Speaker 2:

If I get back home.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to start.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Now I figure, just because you're a business, you probably got access to some pretty good bloodline of dogs of different breeds just your customers, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Or do you fill with more bloodlines from your dad's friends and buddies?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, like I said, I'm not competing, I'm just going out there and hunting. So yeah, I've got some dogs from my dad and his bloodline, and then I've got a buddy and I've got his bloodline. So I don't know it's more personal Because I'm not just I it's. I don't know it's more personal boy, because I'm not just. I mean, I don't know, if I was, you know, going field trialing and field trialing, it'd be different.

Speaker 2:

But yeah I'm just out here treeing squirrels and hunting rabbits and running deer, so it's not really that I mean. I just so.

Speaker 1:

Now what kind of breeds your dad got at his place.

Speaker 2:

He's got Dulais, got some Krogans, he's got some pups, right now just some walkers. He just runs coyotes outside, basically.

Speaker 1:

Now do you sell dog food too?

Speaker 2:

No, I don't sell dog food. One of our really close friends has the local feed store, so he has. If I wanted any kind of dog food, he'd supply it. He does the dog food and the feed and I. I stay out of that you stay in your lane I stay in my lane.

Speaker 1:

Plus I mean you know you gotta have a big warehouse for dog food, so yeah, you know, I had a general store, kind of gas station and stuff in kentucky and it's just small profit and a lot of room it takes up and it's heavy to move around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's heavy.

Speaker 1:

Now I know from talking to you last time that you're getting ready for a big coon dog event coming up next week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're leaving Tuesday to go to Autumn Oaks, tuesday to go to Autumn Oaks. We had never been to Autumn Oaks, but we're getting ready to head up there. I think it's going to be exciting. I'm anxious to meet a lot of people. A lot of people call and they're like hey, I've seen you on TikTok or whatever. I've watched you on Facebook, but I like to visit with people, so I want to meet everybody.

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Speaker 2:

That your vest yeah, that's, that's kind of like my store. I mean it's, and it all goes back to I. You know you can have a big warehouse and inventory everything and have shelves and, you know, have a hopping website and and all day long stand back there and pack boxes. And that's not what I like. I like to, you know, talk to the people when they come in here and shake their hands and what kind of dogs you got, and just just visit with people and then help them if they have any issues with their garments or whatever. So I'm excited to go up there because it's it'll be just like a mobile store, I guess yeah, yeah, you better take a.

Speaker 1:

I bet you sell out everything you take up there.

Speaker 2:

Well, I bet I don't because, as you know, I like to have inventory. I like to have inventory and, as my husband said, we're going to have to go to more than just this one show, because I think we bought a trailer and we've done all kinds of stuff, so we'd have plenty of room to to take, take inventory up there. So I hope I do sell out?

Speaker 2:

I hope I do, but I it's gonna have to be a big sale if I do now, your son being a coon hunter, surely he's gonna go, isn't he? Well, you know, somebody's gonna take care of all the dogs, so he's going to go, isn't he? Well, you know, somebody's got to take care of all the dogs.

Speaker 1:

He's getting stuck at home.

Speaker 2:

Yep, he's getting stuck at home.

Speaker 1:

You'll have to make that up to him. Is there anything exciting for Dog and Hunt Store coming up that you'd like to announce?

Speaker 2:

Well, I did just announce we have an app, so that's exciting. Uh, it's on google play and the app and the app store, whatever. You can just type in dog and hunt supply and then you know anything. If you want anything, you just hit the app and all the products are there and then you just hit the product and then and then double tap on the side and you pay for it and it could be in your doorstep in two days. So we're excited about that. We think that's very convenient for everyone.

Speaker 2:

We have customer appreciation coming up the end of September, so when we get back from autumn oaks we're gonna be hitting it getting ready for customer appreciation. That's a huge event. Um, we have a lot of sales in the store. We have a lot of vendors come out. Garmin will be here. Uh, troy from walnut creek kennels is gonna be here. Old south dog they're talking about coming. They've got a conflict in their schedule. They're trying to work out. I've got a knife maker coming. Oh, wow, elite Nutrition is going to be here, probably. I've got Turtle Box. I've contacted them. They're probably coming. I mean it's going to be huge. I've contacted them, they're probably coming. I mean it's gonna be huge.

Speaker 2:

But on top of all of that and on top of all the sales, the greatest part about the whole event besides the free food is there's gonna be people here from all over South Carolina. People's coming Louisiana, louisiana, oklahoma, illinois, ohio, mississippi I mean people's contacted us that they're coming. So it's more or less like a huge houndsman reunion. So it's going to be one place that every breed of dog and every hunter of every kind is going to be here and visit and you're going to see people that you haven't seen before, you know, in years. That's that's what it's turned into. At first it was like you know, we've got all these sales and everything is great, but what it's really become is a huge houndsman reunion, basically.

Speaker 1:

So we're excited that. Now do you all have that at your store?

Speaker 2:

Yes, we have that here at the store. Basically the town. I mean we close streets down. The local gas station last year said it was the busiest day they had in a year. I mean people's parking down the road to the school. We're going to have trolleys bringing people here from the school where you have to park. I mean it's going to be exciting and big. Of course we have training, contests, trade days, bb guns, shooting for the kids, baggo tournaments. I mean we got stuff going on all day long and then you know big shade trees and lawn chairs and music and everybody can just visit and hang out. It's just for a couple of days, so we're excited about it. I mean it's it's.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot of work but it's worth it well, it sounds like a great place to set up a podcast tent come on up, I don't care, set it up man, well you, you've got to send me links that I can share on social media and I'd love mean. That's awesome. I don't know anyone that does that. That's a business person.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, it's a lot of work.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't want that part of it.

Speaker 2:

The day after customer appreciation last year, we started planning for this year, and every single week it's like this is what we're going to do different. This is what we're going to do different. This is what we're going to do. This is I mean, it's a lot of work, but it's totally worth it, and everyone seemed to have a good time last year. We just wanted to get bigger and bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1:

What's the farthest that someone came to that event last year that you know?

Speaker 2:

I had someone drive uh, eight hours. I can't remember where they were from, but I remember we did a little interview with everybody and uh, yeah, they drove eight hours the furthest I've had someone come to my store. I've had a couple people from hawaii come, so that's, that's exciting, that they came over and then went ahead and made the additional trip to come to Arkansas to come to the store so, wow, how many people you think you had last year.

Speaker 1:

Do you have any idea?

Speaker 2:

I mean we around 3, 35, 100 is kind of what we. We kind of maybe thought it was around. That could have been more, but I might be shooting it short, but it was in two days. In two days it was. It was busy. There was. I mean we're totally doing it different this year because it was busy. I mean we're totally doing it different this year because it was so busy inside last year People couldn't really walk around because it was so packed inside. So we have tents and stuff we're putting outside this year to spread everybody out a little bit, so it'll be a little more enjoyable.

Speaker 1:

I guess that really helps your local economy, your town right.

Speaker 2:

I would think so. Like I said, the gas station said it was hopping in the little local restaurant.

Speaker 1:

Now.

Speaker 2:

I'm choking.

Speaker 1:

You're getting choked up, you're getting stressed about that customer appreciation. I know what I am yeah.

Speaker 2:

I need something to drink.

Speaker 1:

So what about accommodation? Listen, I'm from a town that size in Hyde, Kentucky. It's actually smaller than Quitman, so I'm saying this and not making fun because I come from a town like that. But is there enough hotels and stuff? People have to stay out at other places and come in.

Speaker 2:

There's a town about 16 miles from here.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Either side, like east, west, north or south basically, and they've got hotels, but there's nothing here in Quitman, nowhere to stay Conway. A lot of people stay in Conway. That's the biggest town probably. Heber Springs has some hotels. That's going to be probably the closest. I mean Little Rock is about an hour from here.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and what's the dates on that again?

Speaker 2:

It's September the 19th and the 20th, and September the 19th we're open from like 8 to 5. And then on the 20th is when we have the trade days and we'll be here from 8, I say 8, we're here at daylight, so from daylight till, uh, two o'clock. We kind of wrap it up around two o'clock okay, and then nothing on sunday no, sunday. We need to recuperate for monday yeah, clean up yep well, my birthday's the 12th.

Speaker 1:

That'd be a good birthday. Yes, so my birthday is the 12th. That'd be a good birthday. Yes, so my birthday is the 12th. That'd be a good birthday trip.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Actually, when we close on Saturday, we have during the sale. We have sales online also. So we work from the minute we close all day, all the rest of the day Saturday and then all day Sunday, getting those orders ready, because our main thing is, when you order today, we want to get it out the day you order it.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

I do, I have some, I don't have a lot. You have to drive about two, two and a half hours east to get into any kind of ducks around here. Okay, um, there is a huge big store in Arkansas called Max Prairie Wings.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

If you are a duck hunter and you know about that store, so I let them do the duck. They have a lot of duck stuff. You know, if someone's going to get suited for duck hunting, they usually go to that store. So, I just let them handle it, but I do have some things for duck hunting oh, okay I mean I do have waiters and you know a few I have. I can get you in, but I don't have. You know everything that has to do with duck hunting okay, that's not your main customer base no, I, I'm more of a.

Speaker 2:

If it runs, we chase it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I like that. Yeah, you know, and, to be honest, like I'm really, I didn't get into waterfowl until just a few years ago and it's just because I was training some really high-end retrievers for sheds and blood tracking. I thought, you know, I've got these well-bred dogs, I need to put them to use for other things. So, yeah, well-bred dogs, I need to put them to use and for other things. And so, yeah, I, I'm like you, I had a more of a ham background, for sure. Uh, well, that's interesting. I didn't know you had. I had no idea y'all had the customer appreciation like that.

Speaker 1:

That that's pretty impressive yeah now what does other than autumn oaks? Is that the only show, as of now, that y'all do outside of your town?

Speaker 2:

Well, no, we've went to Uncle Earl's, hog Bay and Louisiana before. There's some local events that we went to. The state hunt we're going to for the next couple of years we're going to start hitting pretty much most of them. Okay, now I'm going to put you on much most of them.

Speaker 1:

Okay, now I'm going to put you on the spot. Summer, uh-oh, what's your favorite hunting dog breed?

Speaker 2:

Breed. Yeah, I mean, you can't ask me that I'm going to lose 100 customers if I answer it.

Speaker 1:

I figured that.

Speaker 2:

yeah, that's a tough one. You can't ask me that I'm not answering that.

Speaker 1:

All right, we'll skip that. I don't want to mess your business up. I have to be careful on here too, because I've got, you know, my listener base is different breeds and, yeah, I put a post on. I asked people to vote for their best hunting dog breed and I left out certain breeds and then, like for pointers, I didn't specify what type of pointer man. I got lit up, you know. And then on retrievers, I just said retriever, I didn't put lab golden, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's a touchy subject. It's like you know this is pretty by. People hunt with walkers. There is no other coon dog. People hunt with red bones there is no other coon dog.

Speaker 2:

You can't. You can't specify anything, because you're gonna make you know if you like one. You're gonna make five other breeds mad, so yeah yeah I mean oh my god, if, if, if they'll tree, I like them yeah, I mean, if there's one up there. I like the dog. It doesn't matter if it's a, you know if it's a chihuahua.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, I had the Purina pointing dog guy on here a couple weeks ago and I asked him that question and he was afraid to answer, too Obviously he worked for Purina. So he said I want the dog that makes me win because he's a field trial guy. Yeah, so that's a good answer, but yeah, yeah. You just want the dog at trees.

Speaker 2:

I just, I mean I want one that trees with the, with the meat. I don't. I don't want one that's, you know, you don't ever find the squirrel or the coon or whatever. But yeah, I want one that that's got the meat every time.

Speaker 1:

Now does your son? Is he still into coon hunting pretty heavy or is he got? Is he busy doing other stuff?

Speaker 2:

He, actually he, he guides hunts. Uh, we, um, we've met some people up in idaho, um, and he goes up there and he's got his little pack of dogs and he, um, he guides bear hunts oh wow and then um in idaho, and then he also goes to Alaska, flies out on a float plane and he's like out for what?

Speaker 2:

three weeks or four weeks at a time and guides moose and bear hunts. So he stays busy doing that. It's really quite funny because not funny. But my husband, he doesn't really like to hunt at all. I mean he goes and he enjoys it, but it's not his passion, it's in my blood and sometimes he's like I don't why you? Want another dog. I'm like I can't help it. It's in my blood and my son he got that for me. He loves to hunt, so if it's in some kind of season, he's hunting it.

Speaker 1:

So on the bear dog summer does he train his own hounds.

Speaker 2:

On the bear dog summer. Does he train his own hounds? He, well, we don't have, you can't run bear here in Arkansas. So obviously he has a pack of hounds up in Idaho and they I mean they have them and keep them for him all year and then he goes up there. So I mean he, I'm going to say he, yes, he trains them, because when he's there he tunes them up, yes, yes, so they're going to be good dogs, but he's going to be the one handling them and working with them all season.

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Speaker 1:

But what I'm gonna ask you is this what I learned I did some hunting new mexico. I was up there elk hunting. Anyway, those guys do it all right, they're full-time guys. So bear season, mountain lion season, elk, elk season, you know they're running year-round and I would ask them hey, what kind of dogs are you running on these bears? And none of them could tell me.

Speaker 2:

Or they didn't want to tell you.

Speaker 1:

That might be, and they said they're mixes and this, that and the other. So does he have? Is that?

Speaker 2:

the same the case. What he does, I mean, um, is it a lot of crosses? Yeah, some crosses, some croagans? Um, he's got. I mean just it's running walkers, basically, of course. I mean, uh, when you're bear hunting, you, you really you want something that'll push the bear up the tree, not necessarily a tree dog. You want something that will push the bear up the tree, not necessarily a tree dog. You want something that will get after it and smoke it and then that makes the bear go up. So I think it's a Duke's mixture of different dogs, but yeah, he's, but at one time there could be, I mean, they'll have 20, 25 dogs after one bear. Wow.

Speaker 1:

I do remember now the guy saying that I had on here was actually he was using blue ticks and blue tick type crosses too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But you do see walkers. What I saw was more walkers.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, he loves hunting and that's, that's for sure. He, he goes up there and, uh, we go up there and spend two or three weeks and I mean I think he's he's. At one time he stayed up there I don't know 60 some odd days in idaho and I mean working the dogs and getting them ready and bait, you know bear bait and everything. So it it's a, it's a whole nother world up there and I mean it's, it's funny how everybody hunts game and how it's different from you know, from the east coast to the west coast, how it's basically the same but totally different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, you know, I just came back from Alaska. Me and my wife went up there and I'd never been absolutely loved it. We just fished, but I'd love to hunt there.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, Alaska is you know? You don't want to say I mean, it seems like it's not behind, but it makes you feel like you know everything is slower pace and not like it is down here. You know everybody's running and gunning and you got 30 minutes to hunt and up there it's like you wake up and you're going to hunt all day and you don't have to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is different.

Speaker 2:

Everything revolves around you know fishing or hunting when down here it's work, and then you do hunting and fishing on the side. Basically is the way I feel like it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I kind of felt, yeah, I was only there for four days or five days, but yeah, you're right, it's slower. It's their life. Their livelihood is tourism and hunting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then that Northern. I've hunted Northern Idaho for a bear hunted up there and that's beautiful country, is he in pretty high elevation?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's you gotta, you gotta be in shape, that's for sure. Yeah, I learned that the hard way. Yeah, when you head off to a tree there you better be ready, because when you go back up it's not fun. But it's a different. Like I said, it's a totally different kind of hunting. I mean I love it so is he guiding full-time um, no, not full-time.

Speaker 2:

he, um, he actually I mean, a lot of people don't know this about him, but he, um, he is a he's a shotgun shooter. He shoots for USA Shooting. He's actually been to several World Cups. He's been to Russia and shot you know two or three times Italy, four or five times. He's been to Mexico. He's been I mean, I can't even name all the places he's been, but he was on the USA international bunker team and he's, like, been to the Olympic trials and he's still doing that.

Speaker 2:

Well, yes, that keeps him busy. So he does that pretty much. I mean, he has, I think. I think, well, there's, I think, two or three competitions in the united states and then, if you are fortunate enough to make the world cup teams, there's three world cups in the spring and three world cups in the fall. So, of course, if you are on that team, you're, you know you're, you're practicing and getting ready, and then when you get back, you rest for a couple weeks and then here you go again, you know, and, and sometimes he's like, oh, you know, they're having a match on deer opening, deer season, um, that's at most, do they not know? We've got, you know, deer season around here this time of the year. But, yeah, he's, he's, he does that and hunts. And then he's um, he, he builds houses. So he's got some spec houses going and subdivisions going in. So he, he's a busy guy I mean yeah that's why he's not in the store with me.

Speaker 2:

He's got several things going on all the time, um, and, and my husband too they. He's got uh, another business, uh, sungas propane, so he stays busy with that. He's got subdivisions and houses going, so I'm just here in the store. This is kind of our hub. We've got this office here we run everything out of, and then I've got I don't know seven, eight full-time employees that help me here in the store. So we stay busy.

Speaker 1:

I reckon that's crazy. There ain't no lazy people in your house.

Speaker 2:

Well, we stay busy. People don't realize behind the scenes what's going on, but yeah, we're running and gunning all the time.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's interesting. I really would talk later, but I'd like to get him on. He's got a lot of things I'd like to get on the show.

Speaker 2:

He's been on a couple podcasts so he would do it. I know he would. He's an interesting fellow to talk to.

Speaker 1:

What's his name?

Speaker 2:

His name is Roe.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Roe Reynolds yeah.

Speaker 1:

I definitely want him on here. Well, hey, I know you're crazy busy and I'm sure your work day it's probably just midday for you, work-wise. Yeah, I know, those girls I talk to you're always covered up and I hate bugging you because I know what it's like to be busy. I don't think I'm as busy as you, but I do a lot of things.

Speaker 2:

Anyway well, summer. One thing about it I mean I'm at the ordering or the packing or the shipping or the. I mean I, I'm pretty much it. So it's, I am busy, I'm a busy person, but that's no big deal. I I enjoy visiting with you, so well, summer just again.

Speaker 1:

Because I want everybody to know. Tell them again how they can find you If they want to check out your store. Tell them where to go.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you can go to dogandhuntcom or you can download our app, dog and Hunt Supply, and I think it's Dog, space and Space Hunt Space Supp supply. If you can't find it, if you type it in like that, you can find it. Or, uh, you can come by and see us, quitman, arkansas, where it'll be a drive, but it'll be worth it. I hadn't had anybody say, you know, you know they wasn't going to come back, that when they came and everyone seems to say I always, always ask, I say, well, was it worth it? And they're like, most definitely. So that makes me feel good, so come by.

Speaker 1:

I can vouch Summer. I was not let down at all. We actually. My wife was on one side, I was on the other, just like, oh Lord, you know I never see anything, but it's really nice. But listen, I know you're busy. Thank you so much for taking time. Good luck at Autumn Oaks. Good luck with your customer appreciation. If I can do anything to spread that word, tell me, I'll put it on here and I really appreciate you taking time to be on the podcast.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:

All right, thank you, bye-bye. Hello, this is Kenneth Witt with Gun Dog Nation. I'd like to encourage all you listeners and viewers on our YouTube channel to check out patreoncom forward slash gundognation. For $10 a month you can become a member of our community and we'll have access to lots of stuff. Mainly, we'll do a monthly forum, an open forum, where you can ask me anything gundog related and we'll learn from each other in the community. Should be a lot of fun. Each month we will do that, so check it out. Patreoncom forward slash gundog nation.