The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
Authentic Living: Breaking Through Mental Barriers
What invisible forces are causing you to present a version of yourself that isn't authentic? In this deeply reflective conversation, we examine the powerful influence of perceived judgment on our behavior, revealing how the stories we create about others' thoughts dramatically shift our own actions.
Most of us have changed our behavior because we believed others would judge us negatively, only to discover those perceptions were entirely fictional. This fear-based approach to relationships causes us to carry emotional baggage that isn't even ours, resulting in a heaviness that drags down our energy and authenticity.
The monkey mind creates elaborate scenarios about what might happen if we showed our true selves, building fictional narratives that keep us small and inauthentic. We examine a powerful remedy for this pattern: simply asking people what they really think instead of assuming their judgment. This direct approach often reveals that our fears were unfounded, as others typically don't care nearly as much as we imagined.
Journaling emerges as a transformative practice for those not ready to have direct conversations. By writing down your fears and exploring why you believe others will judge you, you can begin dismantling these limiting beliefs. Your emotional guidance system provides immediate feedback - feeling heavy when operating from fear, light and free when embracing authenticity.
What would happen if you gave yourself permission to be exactly who you are? The liberation of authenticity creates an energetic lightness that many describe as life-changing. Your reality today was created from yesterday's beliefs, which means changing your beliefs today creates a different reality tomorrow. This simple but profound perspective shift offers a pathway to freedom that begins with recognizing the fictional stories controlling your behavior.
Ready to drop the weight of others' imagined opinions? Join us on this journey to authenticity where we learn to test our assumptions, trust our emotional guidance, and reclaim the freedom to be unapologetically ourselves.
Thank you. Guess what, dr Jenny? What? We're back in studio for the Spiritual Grind doing another podcast. We only did one last week.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow, we need a spanking.
Speaker 1:And then we only did two, and then before that we didn't do any because we were on vacation.
Speaker 2:We got to get back in the groove, man we do.
Speaker 1:But this will be the second one this week. No, this will be the first one this week, but anyway, welcome back to the Spiritual Grind. Everybody, we are planning life's version of things out, and my topic today is pretty simple because, let's say it's simple, it's something that I see in a lot of people in our environment, including ourselves, and it's you know, we generally on here we'll talk about stuff that we're working through.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the thing, one of the things that has been popping into my reality is not allowing my human monkey mind thoughts to control how I act and be, because you know like, for example, are you being your, am I being myself or am I changing away from myself because of what I think people will think or societal top beliefs?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, I see people change their persona every day based on societal beliefs and fears of what people will think or do or say or be. You know, and we see this a lot, you know, and I think one of the things that I see, you know, one of the things that come to mind, is like, for example, when I was younger, I had a friend that was way different, you can tell he was a different kind of guy than the norm and he was perceived as homosexual, but he wasn't just because of his kind of feminine nature, he was just kind of that feminine guy, um, and so he started to put on this big man persona and change because he was fearful of what people and how how people were treating him. And you know this is kind of one. You know that's kind of a major example, but there are minor things that we change and do every day because of a fear of what people will think or say to us.
Speaker 2:Right, or what you touched on. Most often that I see that's happening is not what people will think of us, but the storyline that we have created in our head of what we think they think, or what we think will happen. What we think, they think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I agree Of us and so.
Speaker 2:And so, when you look at that, these are the questions I would ask. Have I talked to that person Right To see if that's what they think? That's one of the best ways to squash.
Speaker 2:Or why do I think that they will think that Right, well, that would be number one and two question, as I'm researching that for myself, is have I talked to them? What do they really think Right, so I can squash the monkey mind? Lie, yeah, and then yes, yes. Another good question would be why do I think they think that? Is it because of some previous circumstance or event that I've experienced where that was true, and now I've clumped everybody together and the whole wide world thinks that and that.
Speaker 2:And that is a lie as well, and it will cause you to create a reality and function within that reality in not a true, authentic way.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, I have a family member, that's.
Speaker 2:Why did this come up for you?
Speaker 1:Well, about a couple of things.
Speaker 2:What happened.
Speaker 1:Well, there's just the point in our life where we are of going through what we're going through here and me presenting that and and and thinking that they're going to think that I'm crazy. You know, that's when all reality is, is it's obvious what's going on? And so when I present like when I was, when I presented it to the superiors, I was more concerned about what they thought of me than I was just getting the truth out.
Speaker 2:Why? What were you afraid would happen?
Speaker 1:Don't really know. That's where I'm kind of stuck. Actually Don't really know what the fear is. I'm looking at it and trying to figure it out. Why did I alter who I am? Because I know for what. I know what the fear is. I'm looking at it and trying to figure it out, or what that.
Speaker 1:Why did I alter who I am and my note? Because I know for what. I know what I know, but for some reason I just won't. I would not be staunch about it and like yesterday, you know, we talked about being firm or staunch about things and he's like we're just not staunch people and I don't necessarily agree with that firmly. But I have altered who I am within a human issue because of what I think that other people will think and I don't like that. I don't like being that person. I want to be who I am and I want to do me, so to speak. I want to do me and when I alter my presence due to a thought or idea or expectation of how people are going to react that's not a good perception.
Speaker 1:That's not a good place to be in, especially afterwards when you get done, you're like why did I do that? Hey, yeah, good morning. Good morning, how are that?
Speaker 2:Hey.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Good morning.
Speaker 1:Good morning. How are you Good? How was your coffee this morning?
Speaker 2:We didn't tell everybody good morning. Oh, we went right into it, man, we just dabbed right in. Oh sorry.
Speaker 1:I've been waiting.
Speaker 2:No, it's all good, I just wanted to tell everybody good morning.
Speaker 1:Good morning, well, I think it's pent-up energy because we haven't done a podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:And I have a few subjects in my mind and this one hit me in the shower again and I was like why didn't I just handle this differently and trying to figure out why I altered my presence? And I don't like doing that, because I see people do it all the time. Like you know, I have a family member and this is a common topic, that is, in the spiritual world.
Speaker 1:I think it's a common topic amongst many different parameters, where people will alter who they are because of what people think or say. And you know, I have a family member that was homosexual all his life, when everybody knew he was homosexual but he did not admit it. And then, finally, when he did admit it, I asked him one day why did you wait? Everybody already knew.
Speaker 2:What is this homosexual thing coming up?
Speaker 1:Why do you?
Speaker 2:keep using that as an example? Are you trying to tell me something?
Speaker 1:No See, that's exactly what that's a judgment statement.
Speaker 2:No way, yeah, you are. That's a judgment statement. Wow, chill, dude, I'm not, I was just playing Well.
Speaker 1:I'm not Like take it easy, but anyway. So this scenario when I asked why did you wait so long? Everybody already knew he said, well, it just wasn't okay and it was. It was kind of like a thought, and these are the thoughts I'm having in the shower, I don't know why. These are the topics that they're popping in my head and the subjects I don't know, but it is a um.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see it a lot when people this, where they change who they are due to the fear of a perception of what everybody's going to think. So how do we handle that situation?
Speaker 2:Well, as you well witnessed, it's going to be a case-by-case scenario on where the person is and where they are wanting to go with it and what they can actually be open and receptive to hear and to handle. I mean, you kind of just got to evaluate each individual situation. You obviously are not at a point where we can joke about some topic like that for you, because you got very defensive about whatever, you got very defensive about whatever, and so then you're immediately constricted and not open to being able to really hear anything about it and you put up a barrier. So it just depends on case by case where you're at. And so if we speak very generally about the topic of changing who you are based on what you think other people think or based on what you witness other people commenting about, it would be the topic that we talk about just in general. Is that what you're wanting to do?
Speaker 1:Is that where, I guess I'm just trying to get?
Speaker 2:clarity on where you're wanting to go with this.
Speaker 1:It is wherever it goes. I'm not trying to get clarity on where you're wanting to go with this. It is wherever it goes. I'm not trying to direct it. I'm just trying to give it an open forum of nonjudgmental talk that people can be free to be who they are and be honest about it and be open about it, without the perceived thoughts of what people are going to say or do to them.
Speaker 2:So let's first clarify what it is exactly when you say it. What are you?
Speaker 1:talking about. It can be any subject, it can be anything. Well, the most common one is that I can think of off the top of my head, that's just recently is one of our constituents constituents what is that? That uh, that uh, um, is obviously putting a front of who he really is, putting out a front and not being honest because of the judgment that people will put out there.
Speaker 2:So why do you care what he's doing?
Speaker 1:I just, I just was seeing it, it's just an observation that I made, and that is what I'm talking about. Is they alter who they are and not being true to themselves or others and being honest about it due to the fact of what people will think, do or say?
Speaker 1:I see, and you know it's a, it's a common topic in. You know, you asked about the um why I was using the homosexual examples, and that is. You know, that's the number one thing. You know. You like, we watched that RuPaul drag race and on there they would talk about how they wouldn't come out because of what their parents would think, or blah, blah, blah, blah. And then when they do come out they find out their parents really didn't care, and so that's why that topic comes into play.
Speaker 2:I see.
Speaker 1:And so where?
Speaker 2:do we? Are you or where do I'm letting you have the floor, man, I'm letting you.
Speaker 1:Well, this is Dr Jenny too here. What's going on? You're just like shut down over there over a situation that happened. Whoa chill, I'm not shut down.
Speaker 2:I'm letting you talk it through and get to the place where you're trying to get Okay. So how do you work yourself through it?
Speaker 1:I'm, I'm still working through this scenario. I'm it's not that I'm bringing, I don't. I have no answers. I I'm because all I'm doing is trying. I'm trying to set it up to where, um, I can work through the process of being who I am when it comes to the scenario that we're dealing with. Why did I alter off of who I am and be more worried about what they're going to think, instead of just putting the facts out on the table?
Speaker 2:Okay. So if we go deep and we go all the way to the core of that kind of behavior that people are having, it is all culminated into one word it's a fear-based program.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:It's the fear that somebody's gonna think something. It's a fear that we're gonna lose something such as our job, our relationship. It's a fear that we're gonna receive negative consequences or get reprimanded. It is a fear that we more uncomfortable to experience pain and pleasure than what it is to just hide it and pretend like I'm somebody else. Now that's the core issue. It's fear-based. Then we come up a level and begin to research and dig around. What are the layers that we've laid on top of that core belief? What is the soil that we've laid on top of that seed that's growing? And for each individual those layers are going to look a little bit differently.
Speaker 2:And you brought up the homosexual idea. And so if we go on that topic because, like you said, there's many topics that this happens in it all basically boils down to the same kind of characteristic traits. If I'm afraid that people are going to not like me anymore or not accept me into the tribe, or I'm going to lose my job, or I'm going to lose my social network because I divulge that I have a sexual preference that's opposite of what the societal gender requirement is, the fear is is that I'm not, I'm going to be alone, I'm not going to have any social network. There's nobody out there that has the same thought that I do, and there's no other social network. That is my tribe, so to speak.
Speaker 2:But it's kind of that way on any topic. It's a fear of losing something that you currently have because those people won't see it the same way. Or it's a fear of being made fun of or being judged or being chastised for behaving in such a manner. Or it's a fear of maybe losing your job because you've brought something to the table that you think the company is not going to be open to or that your boss is not going to be open to. It's just fear based. It's fear based, and so you work through that, just like you do anything else.
Speaker 2:You do what I just did, which is to acknowledge that it's fear based, and I'm a journaler man, so I'm always going to say get your journal out, write down the, the, the, the fear. It's fear. Then take the topic homosexual. Okay, what am I afraid will happen? If I am experiencing life and my true, authentic way of desiring a different gender in my life and wanting to dress in the opposite gender way, what am I afraid is going to happen? And write down worst case scenario. And if it's like, if one of the statements is I'm afraid that people are going to think bad about me, okay, what can you do about that?
Speaker 2:Well, you can do one of two things. You can take on the notion of so what? I don't care what people think I'm going to be, who I am, and if they have a problem with it, if they're offended, it's their beliefs, patterns and programs they have to work on, and perhaps that's not the person I want to hang out with. Or you can go on an experimental journey and you go to that person and you share with them. Listen, I am homosexual and I'm just curious. I'm doing an experiment and I want to interview you on what do you think about me, knowing that I am that?
Speaker 1:because, I'm.
Speaker 2:You know, you can play a game with it. Or, if it's a closer family member, just come to a place and say hey, I'm homosexual. I've been hiding it because I'm afraid you think that I am some negative something. And so what do you really think? And be completely honest with me.
Speaker 2:That way you get to decide what you want to be and do in it. They get to decide what they want to be doing it and trusting that, it's going to feel really good to be able to get rid of that baggage that you're toting around. Because you may find, just like you said, the parents didn't really care, but that individual was creating this story, that they did care, and the story then grew from there that not only do they care, but they're going to disown me and out me and I'm not going to get to be a part of the family anymore. And the story just went on and on and on and the findings were that he was creating a story that was an absolute lie.
Speaker 1:Well, you see with me, what I've identified in this perception of what we are dealing with here is, I asked myself why did I alter who I am in explaining this? And my only answer was because it would change the way they view us. And the reality is, I don't really know how they view us, and so I've created the story in my head of how they view us. And so then I have a fear of losing this idea that's in my head that I have created that I really don't know how we're viewed, right, and. But I have a fear of losing that when I really don't even know if it's true. So do I really have it in the first place? Right, and that's where. But getting to the point of the why.
Speaker 1:But why did I allow myself to create this story where I feel like that, when I tell them what's going on or whatever, that it changes how they view us, when I don't even know for sure how they view us? And so I'm getting to the point of the why. Why did I create what I feel like that they viewed us as prior to this, when I don't even know if it's true? And so I'm at the point of why. Why did I create the fictitious story in my head? That that's not proven.
Speaker 2:Well, sometimes we create a fictitious story because that is a form of goal setting, it's a form of daydreaming, it's a form of creating a reality and then moving towards that goal. And so sometimes it is a positive thing If you create and I'm going to just use us for an example, and I'm going to just use us for an example, if we create this thought that we are seen, as you know, the number one managers in the company and we do all of these wonderful things and some of them maybe have not even come to fruition. That's a form of holographic daydreaming, so to speak, of goal setting. And so then what? Because the best way that it works when you're creating your reality or aligning with a reality that you've put into existence, is daydreaming yourself there, without an expectation and an insistence that it must turn out that way. And what we teach is talk about what you want it to look like and how you've daydreamed that it looks like, so that you can better come in alignment with that right, right. And so if you're creating a story of you know what we beat all of our numbers. We are number one in the company when it comes to all of the statistical numbers. We're 100%. That's just you verbally putting yourself in a frequency that aligns with that reality that you want, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2:There's absolutely aligns with that reality that you want and there's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, unless you take it in the direction that you took it, which is okay. So I've had this thing happen, and if I share the trueness of exactly all of the intricate details of what happened, then this perspective that I've created, that I think they see me as, will be modified in such a way that I will have to experience negative results of that. And so then you'll modify how you tell the story or how you give the information to them so that you don't change that, because you're afraid of a potential consequence that you might experience by giving all the details or telling what's actually happening fully and completely. You'll leave out details or omit information or not talk about it at all, not tell at all. And that happens in any kind of relationship, whether it be work relationships, personal relationships, friends, whatever. That's how that kind of comes about.
Speaker 1:Okay, makes sense, it does. Yeah, the parameters within that I have been operating within are based on my perception of an assumed perception, and that is not a correct way of operating through life.
Speaker 2:It's not that it's not correct. It's okay to daydream it's just not okay to then modify how you naturally would be based on that holographic daydream, especially if it causes you not to be open and honest, and that's what you're wanting to be.
Speaker 1:Yes, Okay, I get it. And the perception of it like our example that we're talking about. I use those a lot. When I say and do the things like the examples you've made, like we're the number one managers in the company, yada, yada. When I say and do the things like the examples you've made, like we're the number one managers in the company, yada, yada, that is for me more of putting the energy out there, because I know what you put out, you get out and it's about intention setting.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:Even though I have been told by our former previous superior that we are anomalies.
Speaker 2:And that we're looked at very highly by the company for sure. But before we openly got to that place, you and I would write our story verbally to each other, that way to generate that energy, to embrace that frequency, finding what that feels like so that we can align with that reality, because that's something that we wanted to happen. And so you kind of it's almost like giving yourself permission not to really face reality because reality is old news. I got to go rabbit hole for just a second.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the rabbit hole of all of this is the actual reality that you sit here and you're looking at was created based on the beliefs you used to have, maybe two minutes ago, maybe two days ago whatever this reality right now that we're living in was created in the history Right it was created from the frequency of what you previously were experiencing or the beliefs that you were running.
Speaker 2:You previously were experiencing or the beliefs that you were running. The minute you change a belief pattern, program or you change your perception that reality is a whole new reality that you can choose to line up with or not. And so it is perfectly okay to talk about the things that you want to see come into the new reality and not face reality, the current reality that you're in, because it's old news, it's the manifestation of what you used to see and believe. And so when we, when I say I never faced reality, that's what I mean when I say I never face reality, that's what I mean. Like the current situation I'm sitting in, whatever it may be, I don't give a lot of focus to that. Now, I'm human, so there's times when I have meltdowns if it's not comfortable, but I have to remind myself this is already done.
Speaker 1:It's already over. What did you say I?
Speaker 2:have to remind myself that this is already done and this is going to pass, and that what I'm creating is the new reality coming my way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:And so it's not like you're telling yourself a lie. It's not like you're saying a lie when you like. For instance, you and I having those conversations in the past of you, know we're 100%, we're the top managers in the building, when we would have that conversation amongst us. And the reason we had it between the two of us in the beginning is because when you're sharing it with other people and it's not the reality, they see it can appear like you're lying and nobody likes the energy of that Right. So you can talk with your partner or a good friend or write it down on a piece of paper the reality that your goal, your plan to align with on piece of paper, defining exactly what you want it to look like. It's no different than telling that story and becoming that verbally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree, so that's, all that's happening and it's not a bad thing to do.
Speaker 1:Right, and so that's why we've got to kind of do a little plot twist with people that are listening so they will understand more that you have to give yourself the permission to be who you are and act the way you want to act within your own beliefs with when you have a fear that pops up with that's causing a bump up against place. Stop and look at this story behind it. We know, like I have, an example of a gentleman that is a military vet, very proud, decorated vet of the military, but because of the war it was in, he hides it.
Speaker 1:Oh cause, he's embarrassed of the right of the actions that he caused because of caused because of a perception that he thinks that everybody will view of him.
Speaker 2:Oh, I see. Yeah, it's very common.
Speaker 1:It is. It's a big deal and people alter their lives every day because of it. And it can be a domino effect of repercussions and perceptions that change and becoming aligned with you who you are. No matter what your history is, remember your history. They say your history defines who you are. I don't believe that. I believe that your beliefs that you carry right now define who you're going to become and when you have a history of.
Speaker 2:Your history can define who you are, if you choose to bring that history with you into your new reality.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. But I'm talking about for the common person that that doesn't identify, that like when this particular gentleman. He doesn't identify with spiritual beliefs or any of that kind of stuff. He just believes that what he did was so embarrassing and the way he got treated when he came back home. He is embarrassed to tell people, you know that that he's this decorated war veteran from the vietnam war and because of what he thinks people are going to think, do and say to him and like I told him is, you don't know until you ask, and so that's where I was going. Next, and this is why I use this example is I told him have you even asked anybody? You know what they think of it. You know, go talk to one of the fellow veterans that were in that war and see what they think. Right, you know, give yourself the permission to ask questions to create a different perception of the story.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's kind of where I'm at with this stuff in the shower this morning. I was thinking is is where do I need to identify this at and why? Why did I allow myself to create this version in my head? And that's where it is. Is it comes from a fear? It comes from maybe former history Right, how people react. It comes from monkey mind. It comes from many different things and it can come from other people's monkey minds and that creates a reality or an environment that causes you to alter who you are.
Speaker 2:Or how you behave. Or how you behave, yeah, I get all the time I have people come up to me and say you're such an inspiration because you just do and dress and be whatever. And I just wish I could be that way, and I do. I mean, I'll put on, I'll wear some of the craziest ass shit, I'll do some crazy shit to my hair, I'll just do whatever and and I I don't ever, for the most part I don't. There are topics you and I I do that.
Speaker 2:With that I still am a work in progress, yeah, but for the most part I just do me in it. And when you practice that habit and you get to a place, it's very freeing, and then it just becomes a new habit and so you just, you know, hey, whatever. Because I remember a time when I would dress a certain way to be accepted into a group or laugh at something I didn't find funny, or you know, I would do certain things that were not authentic and I just kind of I came to that place, that place of where you're at, and I'm like I'm going to just do me, because that feels right, it feels better, because when I would behave in ways that were not authentic. I would check in with my emotional guidance system, egs, and I would feel yucky for doing it Right. It wouldn't even be pleasurable.
Speaker 1:And I find myself holding back. Yeah, like there's a certain situation right now in our work environment that you know about that, I want to go up on the roof and scream on the mountaintop that this person that's in our reality is a complete and utter liar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I wouldn't tell everybody right and I hold myself back because it's not my well. There's many different parameters, but I think the main thing is it's not my job to change that person's reality and not my job to expose. Well, the reality is that you can't change their reality necessarily.
Speaker 2:But if it doesn't feel like it's again, you go back to your EGS emotional guidance system, and if it doesn't feel right to do that, then it's not time to do that, right? I?
Speaker 1:agree, and it may not be a time to do it at all. It may not ever be.
Speaker 2:Because if you're doing things like that from an angry place, or a revengeful place and not from a guided place of. I know this is the right thing to do. It will feel much different.
Speaker 1:And I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2:We had an employee that Performed an act, and I am not generally a manager who enjoys or gets any enjoyment out of having to relieve somebody of their job duties while they work under me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't like to change anybody's reality.
Speaker 2:We're very much giving people a chance to learn and grow, and so we don't tend to be canners.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or the staunch managers.
Speaker 2:But I recently had this experience where I had to make that decision and because I knew spiritually that it was time for her to go on a different journey, because I checked in with it and our this is kind of rabbit hole and it's a little bit advanced, our interaction of why we really came together in the guise of or in the perception of she came here to work for me. That was the kind of surface idea, but the underlying idea spiritually was that we had a contractual agreement that I was going to play a character she was going to learn and grow from, was going to learn and grow from and because of that and my understanding of that level of what's going on, I was completely at peace on my emotional guidance system of and it wasn't.
Speaker 1:Well, it was obviously a divine flow, because the actions that took place.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a pleasant thing by any means.
Speaker 1:The actions that took place. Her actions, your actions, everybody's actions were obviously there for a reason, and that was like an obvious thing because it was so off the wall and so crazy that you almost couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2:Well, and what I'm saying is you know that you're doing what you're doing, even if it looks like or feels like, you know gosh. I hate that this is having to go on. I don't know, I don't Wow, what was that? That's all folks. I don't necessarily enjoy dismissing people under my command, so to speak. That's not something that's enjoyable. I don't get pleasure out of that. But what I know is that, in this particular situation, I checked in with it, as I do with all things, and I knew that this decision was the decision. And I knew that this decision was the decision and it was time for me to follow through with releasing this person from the job.
Speaker 1:Well, there was obviously your responsibility because I had zero feelings in it. I was just kind of neutral in the situation, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so that's one of the ways that you will, as we use us to teach people how do you know when things are what they are and how do you know when they're not.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So, for me, I knew that it was in mine and her journey for me to play this character of releasing her of her holographic job responsibility. Holographic job responsibility and even though it was a little bit of an unpleasant series in the play, I knew that this was the right decision and so, therefore, I didn't have guilt, I didn't have yucky feelings within it, I was at peace with the decision that I'd made. There was no, I didn't do it from a place of resentment.
Speaker 1:I didn't do it from a place of anger.
Speaker 2:I didn't do it from a place of resentment, I didn't do it from a place of anger, I didn't do it from a place of any other emotion, except I just knew that it was time and this was our agreement. And I moved forward because I checked in with my emotional guidance system and I was at peace with the decision.
Speaker 1:Well, in humanly, the actions were against company policy.
Speaker 2:And for you, knowing that it wasn't your cue card to step up and play and it wasn't you that was supposed to do. It comes from you checking in with your emotional guidance system and saying I'm neutral in this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm very neutral. I was very neutral in it, it doesn't.
Speaker 2:I don't get any kind of guidance on I should do it, I shouldn't do it. She can stay, she can go, and so there was no nudge necessarily for you to go any direction in it and that's how you guys can know what part you're playing in any of this.
Speaker 2:Right, you check in with that emotional guidance system and don't make decisions from those lower level vibrational frequency emotions like anger, resentment. You know, check in with it, set with it and when you know it's the right thing, even if it's having to fire somebody, you'll still feel at peace.
Speaker 1:You know. I think another topic we need to carry on in this is how does it feel when you do be yourself?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And how rewarding it can feel and how good it feels on the inside, how releasing of energy it can be, how light, yeah, light. That's a good way.
Speaker 2:And free.
Speaker 1:Light and airy to be who you are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you release that baggage that's not yours, then you. So how it works is, if you have a topic and you've created this mindset that other people think this way, you've basically taken on a piece of heavy luggage that's not even yours, so you're carrying that around. And when you're carrying around a vibrational frequency that's not yours, it is very heavy, and so the minute you come to a place of awareness and the willingness to release it, then it aligns you back with your natural frequency and you feel very free, you feel very light, very airy, and it feels good. Yeah, totally, it feels really good.
Speaker 1:You know, we as humans have this habit, a lot that we do and we use it to manipulate our own environment and most of the time it's involuntary and that is that perceived story that we create.
Speaker 1:Say more Say, for example, you know, I was in a pretty terrible marriage for a very long time and because I perceived what other people would think of me if I ended that relationship, even though that relationship was done many years before I actually left, I just continued to put myself humanly into a situation that was not happy, not healthy for anybody, because of the stories that I thought, you know, people would create in their own head. And some of that has come true. Those stories were created, but I felt so much better when I just walked away.
Speaker 2:And what you came to, the realization, was that, even though they created the stories, nothing bad happened to you, correct? Correct, because that's the other piece of it is whenever we're creating this story, the way that that mechanism works, called the monkey mind, is we create this story to keep ourselves away from doing a? Thing, that we think is going to be worse than the situation we're in right.
Speaker 1:They say the pain, yeah, the, when the pain of getting out of it is greater, or the pain of getting out of it is, or the pain of staying in it is greater than the pain of getting out of it. That's when we start changing things right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And so that mechanism, your monkey mind, will keep creating little tidbits of story of okay, well, if you do that, what if it does this? And what if it does that? Oh my, god, this is gonna happen and then it's gonna be I'm, I'm gonna be all alone and I'm to be a social stigma and nobody's going to want to even touch me because I have some contagious disease.
Speaker 1:And our monkey mind can be so. Maximizing, yeah, but that's by design, you're right.
Speaker 2:The monkey mind is there to serve a purpose. Create a big dramatic story Because, on a rabbit hole forum, it's there to keep a reality created so that we can learn and grow. If we are living through this life knowing that we are this powerful being and that none of this is real, then we don't have quite that authentic and that visceral experience on the human level, and so, by design, it has to continue to try and keep itself as real as possible.
Speaker 1:I agree. The monkey mind plays such a big part in this topic.
Speaker 2:It really does.
Speaker 1:And I think the message I want to give out in our podcast today is giving people the permission to, if they have this story created, to ask why.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And go communicate about it and ask you know, just go ask somebody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I would say that the other part of it is if you're not there yet, if you're not at a place where you can actually go to that person and say you know, hey, I want to know what you think about this. Then explore your own self.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:Use that time when you've come to the aware place that you know it's happening, you know that you're modifying your true, authentic behavior. Because you have this underlying fear of what people are going to think or what's going to happen and you're not ready to really go and confront that person or those people you can't really get there. At least do some research on yourself and dig around in it. Why am I afraid? What am I afraid of? What am I afraid that's going to happen? And research that and write it down.
Speaker 1:And be prepared for your monkey mind to prove your thoughts. Because, like this happens, these kind of things will happen where you may have one topic and you've created this perceived story, and then you interact with others and then you hear them making judgmental comments or doing judgmental things, and our monkey mind will take that and say, see, I told you so They'll go through that issue. You know, like our tattoos on our arm sleeves, we hear people all the time oh my God, I would never do that.
Speaker 2:Oh well, then it leaves more ink for me, because I love doing it.
Speaker 1:Right, but our monkey mind takes that information and feeds into saying but do you know why it does that?
Speaker 2:No, would you like you know why it does that? No, would you like to know why?
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:So the reality that we live in, that we've created, if you can think about it this way, it is basically a mirror reflecting back to you what you're still hanging on to or what you could still work on if you were wanting to continue to work on something okay and so it's.
Speaker 2:It's kind of a test of have I let that go? What is the next thing I can work on? What is still? What is it that I'm still reflecting out to the universe on a frequency level, and so then it bounces that back to you through your reality as kind of a glitch in the channeling Maria Maria.
Speaker 2:As I channel the information, there sometimes are glitches. Anyway, if you are actually wanting to evolve and grow in this topic, wanting to evolve and grow in this topic, the reality that's in front of you will reinforce what you're still running.
Speaker 2:The patterns, programs and beliefs that you're still running, Reflecting back to you what you're doing Right, and so the example you gave is just the universe or the guide or whoever you work with showing you know, the universe or the guide or whoever you work with showing you that, hey, you still have a bit of this that you're running in your reality, and that's why you're having people come across your reality that are still talking about, or whatever you still have a little bit of that belief running around, and so, if you choose to, you might want to look at it and can you tell me?
Speaker 2:put it in the trash.
Speaker 1:Can you tell me what it means to have a splinter pop up on your finger when you haven't done any woodworking in probably eight or 10 years?
Speaker 2:Of course.
Speaker 1:Cause I have a splinter and it just popped up on one of my fingers. It's driving me insane and it hasn't. I haven't touched a piece. You know, did any woodworking for a very long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is representative or symbolic of a belief that is ready to come to the surface and come out. That has been a burr in your saddle for quite a long time.
Speaker 1:Interesting. That's what a spender means, that's what.
Speaker 2:That's what a spender means. That's what it's representative of.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, yep. Anyway, hey, I feel pretty good. So, basically, before we end this, I want to tell everybody it's okay to be who you are, what you are and how you are, and if you want to change your reality, change your beliefs right now and move forward.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, because whatever beliefs you're running right now, whatever perception you're running right now, is the reality that you're creating for your tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Yes, totally agree with that statement.
Speaker 2:So the reality that you're witnessing today was created from the beliefs that you had a while ago.
Speaker 1:A while ago.
Speaker 2:A while ago.
Speaker 1:A while ago. A while ago. A while ago. Is that an animal Can I get? A while ago.
Speaker 2:It's an animal. Now it's encrypted.
Speaker 1:Welcome to McDonald's. May I take your order please? Can I get a while ago?
Speaker 2:What does a while ago look like?
Speaker 1:Can you McBiggie that?
Speaker 2:I need a Mcgie wallago Can.
Speaker 1:I get a Biggie wallago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and does that come equipped with a leash and collar, because I would like to have a lime green.
Speaker 1:I would like to have the pink wallago please yes. Can I get a pink wallago with a leash? Yes, I would like to be size that that's perfect.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna create a wall ago. I'm gonna decide oh, I did that a while ago I'm gonna decide what that looks like and I'm gonna put it on a shirt yeah, there you go, I got a wall ago I'm to create a whole new creature.
Speaker 1:This is my wall ago. Ask me about it.
Speaker 2:What's your wall ago's name?
Speaker 1:Yesterday Would you help me name my wall ago.
Speaker 2:My wall ago's name is yesterday.
Speaker 1:My wall ago name was 10 minutes 10 minutes wall ago, while ago name was 10 minutes 10 minutes while ago.
Speaker 2:I also have one called five minutes five minutes while ago. Her brother's name is five minutes. Five minutes while ago.
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