UFOs, Fishing, And Why Your Bait Is Expectations

What if the scariest part of your life isn’t a ghost, a glitch, or “AI taking over,” but the labels and expectations you repeat without noticing? We follow a trail from a morning coffee chat and The Island to a conspiracy-tinged documentary and land on a practical truth: words direct attention, attention sets frequency, and frequency trains results. Rename a thing and you can dial fear up or down—UFO to UAP is a public example. Inside your own head, “narcissist,” “always,” and “never” are the same trick, shrinking your field until your body starts shouting what your beliefs refuse to update.

We unpack this with real stories and tangible tools. A client stuck in a hot-flash spiral wasn’t reliving menopause; she was burning energy under a fear template. A business leader couldn’t trust a solid proposal because an old wound kept pattern-matching the wrong face. Then we go simple: a fishing parable where belief is the bait and expectation is the spot. If you only trust one lure in one cove, a single doubt creates split energy and empty nets. Go broader—expect to catch fish, then adjust the bait—and results return. The same move unlocks money, relationships, and health: release rigid outcomes, widen your intent, and let feedback guide the next right action.

Along the way, we challenge the fear of technology by naming the convenience we already embraced: debit cards, smartphones, voice assistants, even medical devices. The pattern is the pattern—spoon-fed change until panic cools. The antidote is inner maintenance. Schedule belief updates like software patches. Ask: What template is running? Does it still serve? What’s a more generous expectation I can stand behind today? With practice, awareness gets fast, boundaries get clean, and your script stops looping.

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Transcript

Tech Glitch And Where To Listen

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the spiritual grind.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Good morning.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

We are here doing absolutely nothing. Just kidding. It's like we don't think we never stop.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

I don't think you I don't think we know the definition of that word.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

I don't think we do either. We just keep on going.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Like the energizer bunny.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Yeah. Y'all should check it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

That might be a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

The energizer bunny. Yeah, I think there was already that's already been out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

It's already been done.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

So are the uh websites uh up back up and running, guys, so y'all can check it out. W.themercenters.org.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Yeah, you know what? One of our users, one of our listeners, said there was something weird and glitchy going on with the podcast thing. So it I guess knocked her off and said she wasn't following anymore.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

So I don't know what that's about. I'll look at it today.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

You're gonna look at that. So if you're finding us again, there's some sort of glitch we're gonna explore.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Yeah, because it's kind of weird. We went from knocked multiple subscribers to knock it like it knocked everybody off.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Right. So we gotta explore that and see what's going on with that. We were just notified yesterday that it's happening, so we weren't aware. So if you guys are experiencing any of that, feel free to reach out to us. We've got one listener that helps us kind of keep an eye on those kinds of weird, glitchy things and is always very good about sending us messages.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

I got fished into thinking we were gonna switch our hosting, and I think that's what caused it.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

It's kind of bull crazy.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Anyway, we'll look at it and see. But you can find us on not only Apple and Spotify, but you can find us on YouTube.

From The Island To Conspiracy Media

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah, it's not that it's not there. It's just uh first of all, if they subscribed, apparently it knocked them off subscription.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

That's that's what she said. And or followed.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

She said, I know I was following y'all, and now it's telling me I'm not. But you can also find uh our podcasts on the Merc Center, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Yeah, it's on the Merck Centers. Yeah, Merccenters.org.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Um The It's the Merc Centers.org.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

That's M-E-R-C-C-N-D-E-R-S.org.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

Yeah. Um it stands for Until we figure out the glitch.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

Until yeah, I'll figure it out today. If I have to erase never mind. I don't want to be negative. Um anyway. I don't want to be negative because that irritated me. Um anyway, so are you do you have a topic today?

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Uh no. I mean, I find that our coffee talk this morning was quite intellectually stimulating for me. I enjoyed it immensely.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

I did too.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Um it was based off of the movie that we watched called the The Island. The Island, where there was these cloned bodies that they uh actually had created that were insurance policies, and they would go in and if the virtual human got sick, they could go in and harvest organs or whatever from this.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

It's an exact DNA match for their own body.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Right. So we were kind of talking about that.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

And then we watched a documentary last night that was talking about distractions and stuff like that. It's it's kind of it was very a conspiracy theory documentary.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

And uh it was about distractions and and uh how the government has a tendency to distract you away from things when we get close. And right. And then also it was talking about uh perception of the spiritual world.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

And how people perceive it.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

And uh is that gonna be your topic? Yeah.

Do Spirits Harm Or Do We Perceive

SPEAKER_00 5:08

That's exactly my topic today.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

Oh, I'm so good. And so the My intuition is spot on one.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

Because you know, you and I, for a little while had different beliefs in the spiritual world thought. You know, like for me, I was I was taught in n uh kind of a native tradition that uh they don't they don't believe that evil lives in the spiritual world, they believe that evil walks on earth. And there there are dimensional changes, and a lot of people think or well in their beliefs that the negative is really just your perception of what's going on. So like if you're being uh haunted and and they're moving stuff around or they're making noises at night and it scares you, it's because you're perceiving it as a threat. When they can't physically really the in their belief you they can't physically harm you.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

They can only mentally harm you out of fear.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

But if all that is is in fact all that is, then there has to be that holographic reality because there's some people out there that even subconsciously wanted to be able to experience where that entity is malevolent or um you know highly negative and can physically harm an individual. So the underlying rabbit hole concept is that if that's happening to somebody, and this is my perspective, that it's happening because somewhere along the way that individual, that human being, wanted to experience that in this go-around here, and that's why it's happening. Or they've got such a fear-based template going on that their um what they think about the resistance to it and the fear of it are actually what's bringing it into their experiential reality. Well, in in that you align with that frequency and it universe give you more of it.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Well, and that's on anything.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

And anything that you have the energy of uh or frequency of the universe is gonna put it in your lap. It's the same thing that you do that negative or positive. So if you're if if you believe that money is evil, then you're the universe is not gonna put money in your lap.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

Well, they may put money in your lap, but they're gonna have you're gonna experience the evil part evil-based uh experiences uh around it every time it shows up in your reality.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

That's correct.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

We uh had an individual that crossed our path, and she said, you know, this evil entity that follows me around is literally scratching me and throwing me up against the wall, and I do not want that anymore. And I tried to explain to her that you are accepting that into your reality and you're creating that experience because of the fear of it and because of the aligning with the frequency of it. Right. If you put out there, and here we go with the boundaries again, because there are energies out there that are not nice, just like humans, right? We live in a reality as humans on a day-to-day day basis, and we know that in our reality there are murderers, there are rapers, there are kidnappers. But if you choose not to go and invite them to fucking dinner, then you don't interact with them on a daily basis. Right. Spiritual or non-physical entities are the same way.

Fear Templates And Energetic Alignment

SPEAKER_00 9:21

Well, they're out there. So let's dumb it down a minute. Let's dumb it down for a minute. Even if you don't believe in spirits and you don't believe in different dimensions, and you don't believe that you create your reality, no matter who you are. Uh the quite simply, the subconscious mind is strong enough if you perceive something out there that is evil, you're going to create and see the evil in the little parts and pieces of it that your subconscious mind is creating. And so, like like you brought up rapists. Um even if you don't believe that there's that there's evil in the world that's gonna possess somebody and then rape you, but if you still have the inner conscious working and you don't even believe in any of the spirit world, you you're gonna see things within it that's gonna make you create the fear behind it that it might as well be living it anyway, because you're creating it subconsciously. Like uh you you see a a guy on TV that did rape somebody and they're wearing a black shirt and a black hoodie, and they had bright green eyes. And then so you see somebody, you meet somebody at a bar one night that's wearing all black and has these bright green eyes, you're gonna see the evil in it.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Your system is automatically gonna red track that.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

That's correct, and it's automatically gonna take you to that feeling place of fear or uneasiness, which is which cultivates the frequency and energy of that exact fear.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

Right. And it will bring more about, right, and that's and then what happens is that uh that frequency aligns with more of that same frequency and aligns with more and more, and it will cause you to do a couple things. Number one, you may this person may be a perfectly normal person, it may be your freaking soul mate, but you can't see that because of the definition that you've given to a person with green eyes, where behaviorals or behaviors, right? Right, or doing this thing because they matched some fear-based structure that you have in your subconscious mind, and the fear of it is so powerful and so strong, it doesn't even let you see sometimes what's right under your nose.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Well, here's a here's a great example of that. Like I had a really good friend of mine. Uh, he we weren't friends at first. Um, he asked me because of my business background, asked me to come work for him. And when I I went and sent his office one day, and I said, Hey, here's a proposal, an idea that I have that can, you know, basically gonna increase profit by over half a percent company wide, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he said, Well, I he said, I just have a hard time with something. He told me he had a hard time trusting me. What? Why did you what it what? And we're and he's like, I don't know. I just have a hard time trusting you. And and so I'm sitting there, I'm working through the proposal, I just kind of move pound from it. And then after the little meeting was over, I looked over and he has has a picture of him and his wife and his three kids, and his stepson's in the picture. Oh and his stepson and I really resemble each other. Oh and so I was like, Who's all this? He's like, Oh, that's my wife, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, who's this guy? Oh, that's my stepson. And he the way he said it, oh, that's my stepson.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

I'm like, You could just tell that there was uh what's his name?

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Jeremiah. Oh, so it starts with a J as well. Oh, and where's he at? Oh, he's in prison. Oh what's he in prison for? Oh, for extortion.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

And I was like, Oh, okay. So I was like, you know, let's let's go. Roger, Roger, let's let's sit down for a moment.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

And and we talked through it, and he goes, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 13:29

I yeah, I think uh Dean, yeah, maybe oh opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

Because come to find out, this guy had had he had brought him into the company and he he was in the finance department or the finances department, uh-huh. And extorted a bunch of money from the company and got and got uh 18 federal years in prison for extorting a bunch of money.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

I see.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

And I was like, and so now because we resemble one another, yeah, and I'm now in your office talking about money, you tell me you have a hard time trusting me.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Right. And my name starts with my name starts with a J.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

And uh he he was like, Oh, you know, I didn't even think about it.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Yeah. And I was like, That's a perfect example of how that can be run in the subconscious background, and you not even realize it.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Right, you know, and that is a we do this as humans, and this is where last night in this documentary that to kind of tie it back around to me was that they made a statement in that that really um uh made me made me it really provoked my thought process.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

And one of the and what he said was is you know, the United States for years, even in all the studies that they had on UFOs, they called it uh an unidentified flying object.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

And so now they have released naval footage of an unidentified flying objects, and but now because they're making it okay for the Navy.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Hold on, guys, we're going to we're going in a different direction for a minute.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

For just a minute, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Hang on, it's gonna tie back in the seatbelt.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

So they uh because they have made it okay, are now changing what they call it.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

And that's so what you're saying is that now that UFO is kind of like desensitized and it's a norm.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

And it's a norm and it's okay, and people have kind of come or you know, circumbed to that um feeling. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, it could be out there.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

It doesn't create frightfulness, it doesn't create fear.

Subconscious Bias: The Green Eyes Story

SPEAKER_00 15:38

It creates more curiosity most of the time.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

And so now because it doesn't create enough fear, they're now changed it and called it unidentified UA UAPs or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

It's uh identified aero phenomenon.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Phenomenon, yeah. Something something like that.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Aeronautical phenomenon.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

And so what it the the thought that it provoked m into me was we do that to ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

And that's where this is all tying back to it. Like Roger, when he did it to me, he was he was distracting, even though he hired me, right? He was distracting himself from the reality of having a great proposal in his in his conscious set right sitting right in front of him. Yep. That would make him look really good.

unknown 16:32

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

And but he couldn't see it because of the fear behind what had happened.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

Yep. I took and I worked with a client a couple of days ago, very similar. She was so focused on she's going through a divorce. And she kept referring to him as a narcissist. And but but what it wasn't allowing her to see because she was so focused on the title that she gave him because of his behavior, she wasn't able to see without some help that she was basically uh living in that fear template of being afraid of him, and it was creating some physical symptoms within her body. Right. Uh what she was uh basically referencing was hot flashes related to uh menopause. And I was like, nope, that's not it. You're sweating the small stuff because you're not embracing your feminism inside this relationship because you're running on a fear template. And she just kept referring to him being a narcissist. I'm like, listen, you gotta get get rid of the label.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

Focus on the what it is, because you can't you you can't control what he's doing. Right. And so it doesn't matter if you call him Tom Dick Harry, narcissist, jerk, oh, jangle, jerk off, angel, whatever. It doesn't matter what title you give him. It's the fact that the two of you no longer get along, you're parting ways, and you need to re-embrace your ability to be able to do this confidently on your own without him. You don't need his help. You need to refine your power within that, and specifically for her, your female power within all of that structure, yeah, and go with that. And as soon as you do that, then hot flashes will go away, hormones will rebalance, and that will no longer be experiencing a re-menopause kind of scenario. Cause she's like, I don't understand. I have already done the whole menopause hot flash thing, but it's coming back. Right. I was like, because it's not menopause. Yeah, it's just your body trying to have a language with you.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

But she was so focused on the title. Same thing with the society. If you get too wrapped up in what something's being called and try to figure out that confusion part of it, like UFO versus UAP UAP.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

That's where the distraction is.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

Right. Don't get focused on whatever the same thing called. It's the same thing. Right. For the sole purpose of distraction, or for the purpose of desensitizing the collective so that it can feel normal, so that they can ease us into full alien or extraterrestrial contact so that they can then divulge to us that they live among us already. If they were to come out with that right now, it would cause mass hysteria and fear if they said, Oh, by the way, we've not been completely honest.

SPEAKER_00 20:12

Right. They even said this in the documentary last night.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

They've been living among us for a century or longer. I dare any of you to comment on this podcast. If they were to, if the government, we're gonna identify the they, if they were to come to us and say, do, do, do, do, do, do, newsflash, listen, the aliens are real, they live among us, and it is what it is. There would be two groups of people. One pissed off because the government's been lying to us all this time, two scared shitless, and they're gonna want to go underground in their bunkers and do all this shit. Right, of course. There's the third ones like you and I that would be curious and be like, oh, cool, which ones are they?

SPEAKER_00 21:07

I knew you've been in one all this time.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Right. Do your secondary eyelids.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

Show me your tongue, you are you one of the lizards? Right. And uh so to prevent mass hysteria or a massive riot because everybody's pissed off at the government, they feed it to us slowly.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

For the purpose of not creating mass hysteria and fear.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Agreed.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

The society causes it to have to be fed to them that way because we're afraid of our own fucking shadow.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

Well, and that's where they learn it.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

But it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

Well, that's how that's that's how they do it. That's how they know to do it, is because they have studied human behavior. Right. And they know that human the subconscious mind will create these things because of fears and templates that you're running. And so they have uh they have to continue to distract you just like it just like Rogers' subconscious mind was distracting him from what was obviously in front of him.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

And that's how it that way. Right.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Because they've got to desensitize us layer by layer by layer so that we don't all flip the fuck out and lose our minds and we you know, the the human collective, especially the United States Americans in the in the early early nineteen fifties, when they thought a radio broadcast was real. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

We uh they had I mean there was like five thousand suicides based on that after that because they really thought that they were being attacked by aliens.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

Yeah, they've already committed suicide because they didn't want to die by an alien.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

That's right. They've and they've already you're right, and they've already tested the theory.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

Yeah, you know, that and that entire radio uh that entire radio program, there's an entire book on it. And what the government literally studied the entire behavior behind all of it.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

And because it it that's exactly what would happen, they have to distract because of that exact example. And the same thing that we do in our own human bodies is we will create distractions to or create uh consequences behind things in our own thoughts because we misdirect it.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Yeah, and I just uh I talked about this briefly on one of my uh Facebook posts. It was about, you know, awareness sometimes is uh understanding that a belief was once in place um not to do harm, but to protect you at that time. But then you've transcended past that and you no longer need the protection. Um, and so now it feels like self-sabotage.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

And that's one of the tricky things about working with beliefs in your blueprint is when you say, okay, why did this even get put there? I didn't even know it did. It could have been a form of protection.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

And then once you've evolved and you're ready to, you know, move on, you no longer need that protection. And so then it feels kind of like you're sabotaging yourself. Right. And that just says, okay, it's time to look at this belief, redefine it, dissolve it, rewrite it, whatever that looks like for you.

UFO To UAP: Names As Distraction

SPEAKER_00 24:38

So you know, and that's that is a very crucial part of our normal psyche, is we have a tendency when we have a belief in place that is no longer serving us, yeah, it becomes a self-sabotaging belief because now your conscious mind has transcended above what your subconscious belief system is doing.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Exactly. And if you're not taught to work with your belief system like you do on your phone when it updates at night automatically for you, if you're not taught to look at that belief system and update it and work with it, then you don't know anything about it. And you don't know that in the background you've got these different beliefs that are creating those self-sabotage situations or they're conflicting with other beliefs, right, causing up and down situations in your reality, like it can create some ruckus.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

And maybe, and maybe this thought will kind of help people think through this process a little bit, because we do this in in many different different aspects of our life. And you watch a movie that you like the movie, you really enjoyed it, you had a good time with it, you go back and you watch it again.

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

You like the movie, you had a good time with it, and then another movie comes out, and then you find another movie you like and you watch it again. You don't ever go back to the other movie until something reminds you of that movie.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

But if you haven't removed that movie out of your memory banks, you're gonna continue to repeat the thoughts in that movie. Like, you know, like you know, you you you and our one of our old friends are big movie trivia people.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

And I and I've never been that guy. I don't remember movies. Right. I take parts and pieces of it here and there, maybe. But when it comes to the entire like movie, I don't do it. Like, I don't know how many times I've watched the movie Avatar, and I still can't tell you the guy's name. I have seen that movie a million times. I don't, I I just don't log that information.

unknown 26:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

But what I do, I can tell you about is is about the movie Avatar is how it made me feel.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

And if I enjoyed it, if I didn't enjoy it, and sometimes I can recall different levels of consciousness within it. But the reality, what I guess the point I'm getting to about that kind of thought process is we as people going through these thought processes forget to remember that this life is our script. We're writing the script.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

We forget to remember.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

We forget to remember.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

No, you said it right, just uh tickled my funny bones. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

You know, we we we write the script, and so like the client you were just talking about, you know, she's writing the script. Yep, and what she's doing is going back and reliving the same person, that same actor in that script in the exact same way when she's writing the script.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

And so and when you And she doesn't even realize she's doing it, not even realize she's doing it.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

And a lot of people do that, a lot, oh yeah, and they don't until it's brought to their awareness, and then they're like, oh, damn, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

And that's where you know the the awareness that you just brought up uh uh brought up is so important of those belief systems and your conscious thought, because your conscious thought and your adventures in life and your experience in life is what creates beliefs in your subconscious actions because the subconscious mind is what tells you what's happening in your conscious mind in your reality.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Yeah, and so it's kind of like a little code, yeah. It is learning how to decipher that it is, is essentially uh allowing yourself to create a language with your body, with your mind, with your soul, with your intuition, creating that language and spending time in contemplation, listening to that language. That's why I always teach everybody can do what I do. Everybody can do, it's not a special gift.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Right.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Anybody who wants to invest the time and cultivating the skills that I use can do. They can do it. Uh, like a lady yesterday I was working with, I brought to her awareness and helped her remember something we all know, but we don't know we know.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

Right.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

When you go to a practitioner, when you go to a doctor, when you go to a healer, they're not doing the healing for you.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Just facilitating.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

They're uh facilitating the information, the frequency, the the frame of thought that reminds you mentally, physically, emotionally, how to find the frequency of doing your own healing if you choose to.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Right.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

And the it and and that's it it it's the same concept.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Right. You know, and that's what human human b uh patterns dictate in people's realities.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Right.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

And you know, like me, I'm I'm a big NLP guy. I love I I you know, I've studied neuro linguistic programming. I I have practiced it a lot in my life. Not for the simple fact of using it to manipulate others, but I've using it to understand how people are communicating with me.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

And and because people's unconscious behaviors and patterns create language.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

Yeah, to themselves and others.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

And to others, and and mainly others, because they're well, yeah, let me back up. Let me back up. You're right. They do communicate with themselves with their own habits because the human behavior is to be habitual.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

You know, like if you're a fisherman, it's convenient to be habitual.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

It's convenient to have habits.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Right.

Self‑Sabotage And Updating Beliefs

SPEAKER_02 31:00

If you had to sit there and tell yourself, okay, breathe in, breathe out, right? You wouldn't have room to do anything else because every half a second you're having to tell yourself, okay, breathe.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Because the habitual thought behind it all that you're teaching, like even with this client you're talking about, or with Roger before, is when they have a thought, their subconscious mind, say for example, you're a fisherman. You say, you know what? I'm gonna go fish today. They will instantaneously have a vision of fishing and catching a fish at their favorite spot.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Those are subconscious beliefs or thoughts that because you have allowed it to be there. And when we if you're gonna go golfing today, you have you have this instantaneous subconscious thought that of you either driving like I because I love to drive the ball, you know, hitting a f fancy 350-yard drive right down the center of the fairway.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

It feels good when you hear that whack, yeah, that that perfect little sound and you know, oh, this bitch is going far. I got it just in that sweet spot. That feels good.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

It does, I agree. And that's where the human habitual behavior comes into play. Right. And people don't realize that the same thing happens. Like if you witness a murder, you're gonna have a different perception of what happened compared to what everybody else does, or what they say, because of your belief system. Like if you go tell your friend, I'm gonna go fishing today, do you want to go? And you're having and and y'all both say, Yeah, let's go fishing. And he, y'all have been fishing before together. He's got a thought, oh, I'm gonna go to this place, you got a thought you're gonna go this way, but y'all don't communicate about it, you're gonna end up one of you is gonna be unhappy.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

It is the same thing we do inside.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

If the friend has been fishing before with you and doesn't necessarily care for it, but wants to hang out with you, they're gonna go, and their imagery may be that they go, they sit there, they're bored, they're hot, the bugs are biting them, and they catch nothing.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

So therefore, when they arrive, they're still gonna catch nothing because that's the energy that they took with them, and that's the expectation or the perception that they took with them. Right. And you're gonna go because you've uh uh had the imagery of I'm gonna catch this big huge fist. I love going to the spot, it's my favorite thing. Yeah, you're taking a different energy and a different perspective and a different visual with you. So then you're gonna catch all the fish, your friend's gonna be sitting over there unhappy, unhappy, wishing he was at the spot he wanted to go to, or wishing he hadn't gone, yeah, just chugging beer.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

That's exactly what beliefs do. That's right, because that is a prime example of how beliefs dictate your reality, because he had a belief that only place I'm gonna go catch fish today, or I'm gonna go with Bobby here, and where I'm gonna go fishing, and his his uh subconscious thought was at his favorite spot catching a fish.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

It was the only place I can catch fish, and that's when and Bobby don't go there.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Right now, the negativity and the negative energy behind it allows him to not catch any fish.

SPEAKER_02 34:22

Right. Instead of broadening that perspective of uh You know what Bobby catches a lot of fish here, so I might as well pick on his belief. Right. Instead of limiting yourself, because this is how beliefs can be limited, and then I'm gonna touch on expectation. If you have a limitation that says I can only catch fish in this one space, and if I don't go here, I don't catch any. That whole spell work, that whole programming will then cause that to become a real thing in your reality. You'll go to other spots and try, and you'll catch nothing because that's what you've spoken out there, right? That's the limiting belief part of it. Right. If you can change that too, I always catch fish no matter where I go and start practicing that. At first, it may feel like a lie if you've been running the other program, but then eventually the energy will begin to change, and you'll catch that first fish at the new spot, giving you validation that it's okay now to accept that new belief in place. And then you just keep telling yourself that I can go anywhere and catch, you know, a big fish. That's what taking yourself out of a limiting belief and changing it into a broader perspective will do for your reality.

Life As Script: Awareness As Skill

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Right. And you know, and that's you that's a prime example of the fish. You know, I'm glad we got fishing into this because if you're a because this this plays right into the the to the conscious mind, because if you're a a fisherman, yeah, and you go out and say this is called this is say you're a fishing guide. Okay, and you have a bunch of people that go fishing, and you go out to this one, you go a hundred miles offshore, and you catch you always seem to catch a lot of fish in this spot, and you you do it all the time. And now you've got another bunch of guys that come in on the boat, and you're like, Oh, we'll take you over here, and then you got one guy that says, Oh, you know, I have been out before and we we caught a lot of fish here. And now what happens is this guy goes out saying, Hmm, maybe I should go look at that other place. And then he goes out to his normal spot and they don't catch any fish.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

And now his subconscious mind or his belief doesn't know what to do anymore.

SPEAKER_02 36:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

This is what causes that controversy in beliefs that we have in the conscious mind.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

Right. So what and what it does is it di it does a split energy.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

That's what actually ends up happening whenever you're you go to that same place and you can depend on that every time to provide your fishing guide situation. And then all of a sudden you've not broadened that perspective and a new place is put in, and you say, maybe we should go over there. You've put that doubt.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

You've you've let that one piece of doubt in, and so now you've got split energy.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

Should I go to that new place? Was that, you know, and that little sliver of doubt can change the whole energetic trajectory of the experience.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

100%. And this is a great scenario because here's another part of it is the multiple belief systems all operating at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

Yeah, simultaneously.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Oh, I go to this is I'm I'm a I'm a fishing guy and I'm taking I'm taking this group of people out. We're gonna go fishing at my the one spot I know. I always catch fish the majority of time. And I use this bait.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

Okay, and but they go out and they use this bait, but they don't catch any fish. Yeah. But you got the random guy, the you know, the bandit of the group, that he goes and gets a different bait and he starts catching fish.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

And so now he's doubting his own belief and his own processes because they weren't catching fish at his favorite spot with his favorite bait, but this guy comes in here on his fish in his favorite spot, on his boat, fishing at his favorite spot with a different bait, and he's catching fish.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

And so now he's doubting his own beliefs.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

And it's the same thing we do as human people every single day.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

And working with beliefs are so important.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

That's right. But then also the expectation part of that.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

Oh, yeah. I know that's a whole that's another whole nother realm. Multi-belief system.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

That's right. Because if you go to the same place every time and you're using the same bait, you have an expectation that that that place, that bait is going to give you uh an actual perceived outcome. Right. And you expect it.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

And the majority of the time it probably does work.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

Yep, it does. But in a scenario like that, where you've not become okay to stay or uh okay to go open to kind of the whatever, right? That can limit you as well if you're not careful. It can be a tricky, sticky kind of thing. And it will cause that confusion of okay, wait a minute. I'm not catching anything today with my favorite place and my bait, but then this other guy pulls up in his boat. That's his favorite spot too. He's using a different kind of bait. Should I change my bait up because your bait's worked for you consistently, that expectation can then be what is causing you to question your whole system because this other guy's using a different kind of bait. Whereas if you didn't necessarily have a strict expectation, you're gonna go to your favorite place, you're gonna just lounge out, do some fishing, go with the flow. If it takes this bait today, or if it takes this different kind of bait, whatever that is, I'm gonna go with the flow. And my expectation is that I catch fish, not that I catch it specifically with this kind of bait.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Right.

Habits, NLP, And Unconscious Language

SPEAKER_02 40:50

You broaden that horizon just a little bit. When that guy pulls up and he's using a different kind of bait, it doesn't create confusion. It's like, oh, okay, thank you, Spirit, for giving me the clean to the puzzle. I can now just change baits because I have that. You changed bait, now you're catching fish because you've opened up that expectation realm to be a little broader instead of being so black and white staunch with it's gotta be this bait. So that's kind of where expectation can troop you up as well.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

If you can go more general with your expectations, then you can have maybe a little bit, I don't say better, but a little bit broader experience on the fruits of your labor, so to speak.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Totally agree. You know, and this is a great, another great example of something. You know, we always get told that we're adventurous and we, you know, we've we've lived a lifetime, many lifetimes worth of experience in this life.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

And or who the hell can do all of that in uh short and 50 years? We get that a lot.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

You know, and and here is how this same scenario comes into play is I remember growing up when we were talking about fishing, this is what made me think of it.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:09

And there were three of us that all ran together, me and my buddy Billy and and my and uh uh my buddy Chris. We all went together. And sometimes it was Travis, sometimes it was Brian. And you know, there was always three, four, or five of us fishing.

SPEAKER_02 42:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:22

And I was always the guy I was like, I don't care because I'm gonna go catch fish.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

I'm I have just I have just as much fun fishing than I do actually catching.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

Back then. Exactly. And so we would go to lakes, to ponds, to dams, or whatever, but yet I was always the guy catching fish.

SPEAKER_02 42:38

Right, because you had that broader perspective or expectation that didn't put you inside that box that limited you that it can only I can only catch fish if it looks like this.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

Right. And so, you know, they would they would get into their little pissing matches, so to speak, of no, let's go to my place. And then they would finally end up coming to a a a you know an agreement, okay, we'll go here this time, but next time, next, you know, tomorrow we're gonna go over here.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

And so they would end up like giving up their happiness for that one little time just to hang out with their buddies, even though they're not gonna go catch any fish because their energy is shit.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

But yet here I am, it don't matter where we go because I never picked, I didn't care. I just wanted to go fishing.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

And and I'd be over there catching fish every time, and they'd always be like pissed off at me.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

And and but that's because I was opening my mind, and I didn't believe, no matter where I went, that I wouldn't catch fish. That's right. I believed no matter where I was going, I was having fun.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Which is why the adventurous mentality has been so swayed for in my house, in my world for all of my life. Yeah, I've always been that guy that didn't believe anything.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:51

That you know, my my family would say to me, Oh, don't go to that neighborhood.

unknown 43:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

You get hurt.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 43:58

Where do I go? I go to that neighborhood.

SPEAKER_02 43:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Because I didn't believe it.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:01

I still to this day, I'd I'd literally leave it.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

You end up with the best friend of your whole life from that neighborhood. Yeah. And, you know, it's amazing adventures.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Paul Boone was his name. He was a good guy, man. He was he was awesome. I remember he took me home to his his mom for dinner one night and and I walked He said he told his mom he was bringing a friend home.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

And uh we walk in the front door and here I am, and you can just see the look on her face like Did you what?

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Matrix glit, wrong color, dude.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Yeah, it was pretty funny. Uh but anyway, we become really good friends. But anyway, but that whole the the whole thought process last night, this is the whole intellectual conversation that I've been having in my own mind about distraction. That's really the whole topic. Is how we distract ourselves or we limit ourselves because of either emotions or beliefs that are wrong, or we will distract ourselves from those bad beliefs and just ignore them.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

Right. Well, and part of that is because you get hyper focused on the nonsense, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

Like I said, we're gonna bring it right back around. Uh like I said, it doesn't matter what it's called. Right. And we'll take your example. You use a lot the pencil. Who decided it was called a pencil?

SPEAKER_00 45:28

Yeah, who named it a pencil? Who the pencil? And why? Why did they where did the how did they come up with the name pencil?

SPEAKER_02 45:32

Right. So when you bring that conversation up, I basically look at you and I'm like, who the fuck cares what it's called? You know that it writes and it writes on paper. So pick it up, fucking write whatever you're gonna write, and who cares what it's called?

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:45

That's the same kind of premise I teach with uh like identity, and we talked on the podcast about wearing different hats. Yeah, who who cares what your identity is? Right. Go out and do whatever it is you need to do and do it however you want to fucking do it.

SPEAKER_00 46:02

Yeah, somebody put on my Instagram about uh about uh uh why are you teaching people to have multiple personalities?

SPEAKER_02 46:08

Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

Like you obviously do not get the point of this conversation, right?

SPEAKER_02 46:13

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

Whether you want to believe it or not, you have different personalities. Everybody does it. Yeah, just you just don't admit it.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

Because you think you're perfect. Well, that's what I want to say.

Fishing Parable: Belief, Bait, Outcome

SPEAKER_02 46:24

At the end of the day, that's all small fries. Who cares? I know it is who cares what a pencil's called, you know it really cares what character you're being, you go and you be whatever that is. Right. You can't do it. I mean, we all do it every single day.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

It's the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

You know in your heart of hearts, you know that it exists. One of the other things we talked about this morning that I put to the challenge is people who are not comfortable with the AI concept, which again is the slow feed.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Right.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

If you go back and you look at history, the first thing I can remember being introduced was the checkbook versus the Visa card. Yeah. And I remember everybody freaking out. Oh my god, that's a sign of the beast. Yeah, they're next gonna want to put a microchip in your body. I'm like, yep, I'm in line, put one in. It's convenient.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Well, they started with the ATM card first.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Right.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

That's what was the when they first started carrying cards, was an ATM so they could get their money out.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00 47:31

And that's so that's just the way they softened it.

SPEAKER_02 47:33

Yeah. And so I want to take that group of people and I'm gonna I want to go back to them and I want to say, okay, well, if you're so uncomfortable with it, then give me your debit card, relinquish it. Or uh, you know, then next it was uh the cell phone. Oh, I don't want one of those, they can track me. Uh next it was Siri and what's the Bixby. No, Bixby. Oh, Bixby.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

Oh, yeah, it was something else at first on the Google. It wasn't Bixby, it was uh and people kind of can't remember pushed against that. Yeah, the the one in the in the one on the Android, it it sucked anyway.

SPEAKER_02 48:12

Nonetheless, you're you're you're distracting from that. Sorry, that's right. Nonetheless, so then you embrace the convenience of being able to just scream at your phone and say, How do you spell this? Hey, Siri. Then they introduce Alexa, and there's that group of people like, I don't want that in my house. It's gonna listen to me. They've already been fucking listening to you on your phone. And so then Alexa becomes convenient and a natural uh staple in-house. I even miss mine. I'm like, Alexa, put this on my shopping list, and then I'm like, fuck, I don't have one now. I didn't bring it with me. I mean now they talk about AI. Yeah, all that is, if it's gonna be all that is, it has to transcend. It has to it's gotta grow.

SPEAKER_00 49:07

It's nature, it's what we have to do by nature.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

If we're gonna have that all that is, it wants to know itself. This is the normal progression of expansion.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

100%.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

So now we have AI and people are afraid of it. I want to go back to them and I want to say, okay, then give me your fucking Alexa, hand over your phone, hand over your baby spoon and even before any of that, those of us that have pacemakers, that's a form of all of that. Yeah. So I want to go back to those people and I want to be like, okay, well, if you're not liking this concept, you don't have to participate. So go ahead and give me your pacemaker too. And we'll dig your hole and we'll put you in the ground.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02 49:51

And I guarantee you, how many people will be like, oh no, I'm gonna keep my pacemaker, gonna also keep my card. Yep. And uh, you know, while I'm at it, I kind of like my Siri. Oh, well, I kind of like my Alexa. Yeah, but yeah, they're whining and harping about the AI concept.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

Well, you know, they're that's being spoon-fed to them.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

That and they have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

We're coding an app that is seven generations higher than the human population can actually see.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Exactly. And they've because they can't see past their nose the convenience or what the app does, they won't embrace it because of fear of the unknown. Or because somebody somewhere saw the movie where the robots take over the world. We could just like the world of the world's radio, gonna bring it right back around. Like this world we live in now is free of murderers and rapists. Right. If you don't go sit down and invite the rapist to tea, you're not interacting with them, then you got nothing to worry about.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

If you don't like it, then don't interact with it.

SPEAKER_00 51:10

That's right. Even if it just get ready because it's going to be everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

Right. Even it already is an alien that's living among us, and you're afraid that they're here to take over the world and completely get rid of the human nation. And I'm gonna tell everybody we are GMO'd. We're not Homo sapiens solely and specifically. We are a combined hybrid of something, whatever that existence is.

SPEAKER_00 51:43

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

Because otherwise, we would all look the same.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

We were created instantaneously by the snap of a fingers.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

We would all react to the environment exactly the same if we were not some sort of hybrid of some specific.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

Right, whatever it is. I don't really care.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

We're not even originally from this planet. If we were, then we wouldn't have certain reactions to the environment that others do not, you know, like the people who get sunburned from the sun.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

I just think it's funny that the theory of evolution. If we really if we if we had evolved from apes, there wouldn't be apes.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

Well, but you have to have there are species that did evolve from apes. That did happen.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

I'm not saying it didn't.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

That that that species does exist somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

It just is not how you I know they have to be somewhere. I saw it in a movie. They talk in everything. You know, they were like humans.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

I know, right? That was a good movie, actually.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

The planet of the apes. But anyway, uh I I I just wanted people to understand the the flow of how we as humans distract ourselves from the beliefs and how we need if we're not working with our beliefs, then you'll continue to live the same template. Even when it comes to abundance, being it financially, be it relationships, be it you know, uh career, whatever it is, if you don't work with your beliefs, then you will become stagnant. And if you don't take adventures and take chances in your life, you're not ever gonna be more than what you are. You're gonna keep living the same script because you're not writing new scripts.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

That's right. And you're doing the same habit over and over, which creates that loop.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

Right. 100% agree.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

And nothing will change as long as you're living inside that loop.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

Yeah. And so no matter what it is in your life, and you can apply the fishing example to any area of what I call the life pie. And we gotta call them well-being, finances, relationships, whatever that is, whatever that underlying belief is that gives you that perspective, that's what you need to look at the pattern of. Is this creating this section of the life pie the way I want to experience it? If the answer is no, then it is time for you to go in, become aware of your belief system that you're operating from, and change it.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Wait, do you remember the last time we were that ORI and we worked with that girl named Andrea? Do you remember her? The dark-haired girl. We end up doing phone sessions with her after that for a while. You don't remember?

SPEAKER_02 54:39

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 54:39

I remember when I did her aura reading for her and she was asking me about abundance. And she's like, you know, I I I think she was a uh kid, she had a very what they call a high flutin job, like a chemist or something. I don't remember exactly her job, but she's like, you know, I've been doing this for eight years. I'm not making any more money. I followed what they told me to do. I went to college for ten years, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Went through all this stuff, but yet I'm not getting rich like them. I'm like, so let's let's talk about your day for a moment. How many habits a day do you do the same thing over and over and over and over? And you're over here asking me why it's not changing.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Right, exactly.

Expectation Management And Flexibility

SPEAKER_00 55:19

Because you're not writing new scripts, you're not changing your life because nothing is changing with your abundance, with your relationship, with your career, any of that stuff, because you just keep living the same habits.

SPEAKER_02 55:29

Yeah, you've got your life on autobiot.

SPEAKER_00 55:33

Which is easy, which is what the subconscious mind is. It's lazy because it likes easy. And you have to, if you don't actively work with your beliefs in your subconscious mind and your through your conscious thought and experiences, then you're going to continue to get the same results.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

Yeah, just to clarify though, when you change your process of habit and you do that as your daily habit of updating beliefs and updating that system, it then becomes easy. I agree. At first, it feels challenging. Oh, yeah. And it feels tricky. But as you practice it, the more and more you practice it, like with anything, then you get to a point where you can look back on the day and say, Yeah, there was a time when this was not easy, but now that I've practiced it and it's become part of my daily ritual, right? Now it's easy. I can pick the pattern out in a second. I can catch myself in uh the habit right then and uh restructure it right then straight away. It becomes easy.

SPEAKER_00 56:39

100%.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

So it doesn't always stay hard.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

It's like the lesson of today's podcast is if you want the same results, keep doing the same shit.

SPEAKER_02 56:48

That's right. Keep eating the same shit sandwich for lunch.

SPEAKER_00 56:53

That's right. If you if you want to stay in the same shittin' job you're staying in that you hate and you're not making a bunch, you're not making a ton of money. Like I'm not living the American dream.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

Keep putting up and keep doing the same shitty ass pants and stepping in the same pile of shit.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

Yeah, just you're gonna keep doing the same thing. It's the same thing with money. You want more money, do something different.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

My money, my money.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

You know, and and I have been a lifetime teacher of this. Multiple streams of income.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 57:23

Monetize everything. Yeah. Well, I feel good. You feel good?

SPEAKER_02 57:27

Yeah, I think it was uh, you know, listen, we don't ever do scripts, we just go off the cuff, man, of whatever's actually going on in our reality, and we bring it to the microphone. Yeah, because I think what we are trying to show everybody is we're not some guru sitting in a meditative yoga pose. We're we're living, breathing humans that work the system, the very system we're teaching, and we do it inside the construct of a normal day like everybody else lives. You know, there are days when we don't physically feel good. There are days when we emotionally are in crime. There's days when we go to the grocery store and we get the crappy checker who's grumpy or they don't have on the shelf what we went to look for. Yeah, we're normal human beings like everybody else, but we're just showing people a different way to look at the world around us. And that's the I think that's what our content is really about for me, is showing people how to be spiritual in a human world. Yep, I agree, and how to incorporate these t techniques into your human world while still having two kids, a husband, a wife, and a nine to five don't forget the toaster, and a toaster, juggling all that shit and still trying to figure out where you fit in your spirituality, you know. That's our premise here.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

Yep. Anyway, guys, hey, we appreciate y'all listening. Uh thank you and tuning in because uh uh uh and listening to our rambling past and thoughts. We appreciate it. Um don't forget to check out our website, www.themercenters.org. Um, you can check out the app, which is looks like March 7th is gonna be the launch.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

Yeah, getting excited.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

Um that's www.lucidiumworld.com. And you want to check out Jin Dan Yoga, you can hit it on the uh website and start looking forward to Jenny's uh t-shirt lines. It's gonna be pretty fun.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

Yeah, guys, pretty funny. Gonna get that merch out there.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

And check out the new website. Yeah, uh, you'll see all that stuff on there.

unknown 59:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

Assume to come things. And uh don't forget to check us out at Ozark Research Institution. We are speaking on Sunday there. We have the three-hour spot, I think. No, I think the featured spot. No, it's on it is uh April 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th.

SPEAKER_02 59:59

That's right. It's not until April.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

It's in Fayetteville, Arkansas, and you can get those tickets at or i.com.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:05

It's actually Ozark Research Institute. I've got the link in the description.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:09

We can do ORI as well, because it it they have both. Don't they? No? They did.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

ORI is not linking me where I need to go.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:18

It doesn't matter. There's a link in the description. You click on the link, it'll take you straight to the page.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:24

Along with everything else that we've listed.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

Anyway, guys, hey, we appreciate y'all tuning. Don't forget to like, follow, and share.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

And ring that bell.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

Hey guys, you all have an awesome day.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

Love ya,