Owning Haunted History: Inside the Boyd House & Masonic Lodge with Jill Shelley

Jill Shelley takes us deep into the fascinating world of haunted property ownership, sharing her extraordinary journey from curious paranormal investigator to the proprietor of two historically significant haunted locations. 

Throughout our conversation, Jill reveals what happens when you don't just visit haunted locations – you purchase them, restore them, and develop relationships with their spiritual residents. Her first property, the historic Boyd House built in 1901, has become renowned in paranormal circles for its consistent activity and resident spirits with distinct personalities, including a gentleman named Fred and his particular wife Minnie who dislikes swearing in her home.

The discussion takes an even more fascinating turn when Jill shares details about her newer acquisition – a Masonic Lodge in Illinois with unexpected secrets. What appeared to be simply a former meeting place for Masons was revealed to have a much more colorful past as an 1861 hotel and brothel, explaining the surprising presence of children's spirits who communicate clearly through EVPs, asking to play with dolls and responding to investigators' questions.

The evidence Jill shares is compelling – from a violently slammed kitchen cupboard that sent an investigator running, to a rocking horse moving on its own in an attic with no air circulation, to spirits who play card games and communicate their moves through K2 meters and spirit boxes. Most remarkably, these interactions happen in a building with zero electrical power, eliminating many potential contamination sources.

What truly elevates this conversation is Jill's thoughtful approach to coexisting with her spiritual residents. She purchases items specifically for them based on their known preferences, sets respectful boundaries, and creates spaces where both the living and the departed can comfortably share the same historic properties. Her insights about how spirits from different time periods respond to modern investigators offer valuable lessons for anyone interested in paranormal research.

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Chapters

• 0:00 First Paranormal Experiences
• 1:13 Meet the Hosts of Generation X Paranormal
• 3:47 Jill's Journey Into Paranormal Investigation
• 8:57 The Masonic Lodge: History and Activity
• 16:44 Intelligent Spirits and Communication
• 21:46 EVP Evidence and Physical Activity
• 30:04 The Boyd House: History and Hauntings
• 42:08 Children Spirits and Family Connections
• 50:17 Guest Experiences and Investigation Advice
• 57:42 How to Visit Jill's Haunted Properties
• 1:01:02 Final Thoughts and Episode Closing

Transcript

Jill Shelley (00:00)
Yeah, so then we went down, just kind of traveled over the US doing the haunted locations, which is kind of where I was like, oh, this is really cool. I'd love to get my own place, know, to allow people in and just kind of do the same thing. So that was, then that happened in 2018 when I got the first location, the Boyd House. then in 2020, time goes by, at the 23, I believe, is when I purchased the Masonic Lodge. So

Generation X Paranormal (00:25)
Okay.

Generation X Paranormal (00:41)
you

Hey everybody welcome back everybody. I'm Logan and I'm Nicole and this is generation X paranormal So don't adjust your sets guys, know, nobody would even know what that means anymore You know the old days you had TV sets. We're pulling out the generation X right? Well, yeah, I mean it is what we are, you know the old days So you would have these TV sets and you had you control the con anyway long story short this is

a soft re brand that we're still generation X paranormal and everything. But when we started the show, we always wanted our image to be a portal. And I think it took us a while to kind of get to the part where we're like, OK, we like that. So you are seeing the fruits of that labor. The fruits. But anyway, guys, we got a fun show. We're going to be talking to Jill Shelley. So what can you tell us about Jill? 

So Jill Shelley is the owner of two haunted locations, the Boyd House in Minnesota.

Masonic Lodge in Illinois. She's been a paranormal investigator for 12 years and she's part of the team of st. Croix Paranormal awesome. Yeah, I mean Again, I've always thought to myself. I'd love to own a haunted place, but I totally want to yeah Well, technically we kind of do now but

You know, he's a live in them, we write and really owned. That's true. I want an old Victorian. I know you do. If we ever get millions and millions of dollars, we'll do it. other than that, hey, I can't wait to talk to Jill. So the practical magic house, that's what I want. Yeah, we can't afford the practical magic. It would take practical money and we don't have every woman that ever loved that movie once that house, by the way. Right. So you can bury me in the in the flower garden. No, not unless you're evil.

Evil anyway guys. We can't wait to talk to Jill. Let's go. Let's bring her on

Generation X Paranormal (03:43)
Well, hey, Jill, how you doing?

Jill Shelley (03:45)
Good, how are you guys? Thanks for having me out this evening.

Generation X Paranormal (03:48)
We're doing great. Welcome to Generation X Paranormal. It's funny because I've often asked now we're going to get into a whole lot of stuff, but I've often asked myself if I was ever in the position of purchase a haunted anything, would I do it? The answer probably is yes. But you did two of them. So that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. know, obviously, Stephanie, she's got one. And if you guys know who she is, you know who she is. But

But yeah, it's it's interesting to have somebody that's purchased too. When we're to get into it, I just, thought I'd mention that because it, you're pretty unique for us anyway.

Jill Shelley (04:27)
Yeah, it's kind of an obsession. You you start with one, then you just got to have more. Yes.

Generation X Paranormal (04:29)
Yeah. It's like tattoos. You know, you get one, you got

to get more. But so anyway, know, aside from the from the places that you own, you started paranormal investigation a long time ago. So if you could just kind of bring our audience up to speed and kind of how you got started. Tell us a little bit about the the group that you're in at St. Croix, correct? Yep, St. Croix Paranormal.

Jill Shelley (04:55)
Yeah, St.

Generation X Paranormal (04:57)
Yeah, just kind of give our audience a, you know, once over. Kind of what got you to this point.

Jill Shelley (05:02)
Yeah, I've always kind of been one of them weird kids. always liked ghost stories and spooky things and just kind of weird. My cousins, I remember we would just like listen to ghost stories in the middle of the night, you know, stay up and freak each other out. But it was just always kind of fun. But my first experience was actually at my grandma's house. She particularly had a room that I never really liked. it was always cold. You always felt unwelcome. I always felt like somebody was staring through the closet at me and she didn't have

like

a closet door she just had like a curtain over it so I always just felt like somebody was behind me but one particular night I was sleeping upstairs not in that room but in a room down the hall and I woke up and I heard footsteps coming out of that room

Generation X Paranormal (05:35)
yeah. yeah.

Jill Shelley (05:48)
and stopped at my bedroom and I had my back to the door and I felt like something was literally staring through me. Like, you know, when you feel like somebody's watching you, but as a child, I'm like, I am not turning around. I just kind of put the blankets over my head, you know, and then you just heard the footsteps turn around, walk the other way.

Generation X Paranormal (05:58)
yeah.

Right.

Jill Shelley (06:07)
Mentioned it in the morning my grandmother sleeps downstairs so 100 % not her and my parents were both sleeping in the other room and I could hear both snoring and moving around and such so I knew That it was not them so but my grandma just not chill out. They're like, oh my gosh, honey That's just a ghost and he's not gonna hurt you so I was like

Generation X Paranormal (06:25)
my goodness.

Jill Shelley (06:26)
what she's just blown off like no big deal. I think that kind of filled my passion a little bit more like now I really want to know more about them. So just kind of doing that studying and reading and watching movies and things I didn't have internet back in the day I meant for the dinosaur ages and stuff. yeah, so we just, yeah, we just.

Generation X Paranormal (06:28)
Yeah, you know

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

That's why we're

name generation X paranormal.

Jill Shelley (06:49)
So yeah, so with the advent of the TVs coming out, then you're like, my gosh, this is a thing. Like, I didn't know you could really do this sort of thing. And then I met a guy at work who was, he actually was doing a little bit of investigating on his own. wasn't part of a team or anything. So we just kind of started going out and doing things, just investigating local bars and businesses and just places in town. And then that migrated over to go to the...

I call it the pay to play places. So we kind of started with that. So we just started with us two and then we kind of migrated. I think we had up to eight people one time, but it's still been kind of a core four of us. We've always just kind of stuck since it was like 2010 is when we actually formed the St. Croix Paranormal Group. Yeah, so.

Generation X Paranormal (07:20)
yeah.

It's quite a bit back, yeah.

Jill Shelley (07:40)
Yeah, so then we went down, just kind of traveled over the US doing the haunted locations, which is kind of where I was like, oh, this is really cool. I'd love to get my own place, know, to allow people in and just kind of do the same thing. So that was, then that happened in 2018 when I got the first location, the Boyd House. then in 2020, time goes by, at the 23, I believe, is when I purchased the Masonic Lodge. So yeah.

Generation X Paranormal (08:06)
Okay.

That's awesome. Yeah, I

Again, you know, we've we've gone and I know you've traveled all over the place and we're sort of in that vein too. We go to different places. A lot of it's been local at the moment. But I know actually we did Arizona and a few other places. But you're right. I think when you go to some of these places, you often say kind of like I did at the beginning, man, I'd really like to own one of these. But of course, most of the time, a paranormal hotspot is either condemned or it's falling apart or all the above. And you're like,

It would take a beggar's fortune to get anywhere near people being able to come in this place. So, you know, that that's wild. So, OK, let's let's get into the the salt and pepper of things. you purchased and we're going to get to the Boyd House because I think the Boyd House is it's certainly not it's it's known it's an established place. Everybody knows most people that are in this know the Boyd House for the most part.

Jill Shelley (08:47)
Great.

Generation X Paranormal (09:10)
But that's not the case with the Masonic Lodge. Now you had mentioned you purchased that in 2023. there already been sort of, I guess basically is this greenfield like this is the first time people have investigated it?

Jill Shelley (09:25)
As far as I know, I don't think anybody previously has investigated, so I would like to say I was the first one there. I just kind of got a feel for it.

I wouldn't say that I'm psychic or anything, but I do get the feels for like when we're at locations or just certain feels. When I was just scrolling through bigger properties to look for, it just popped my eye and I was like, I had to have it. Like I knew this was the building. Went and took a look at it. It was in real good shape, but also we got a couple of really good EVPs. Like one of them was I'm Watching You. And then we also got a child that said Body.

And I was like, well, first of all, that's weird, but why is there a kid there? This is a Masonic Lodge, right? So why would there be children here? But now that I own it and I found out some more information, it actually was the Arlington Hotel. And it was the Arlington Hotel in the 18, like 1889, I believe it was. So...

Generation X Paranormal (10:09)
Right.

Jill Shelley (10:26)
or maybe it was before that, but it was before the 1861 is when it was first built. So that's when the hotel was. I also found out it was a brothel as well. So there was a lot of stuff that was going on there. And then it didn't become the Masonic Lodge until the 1900s. So still really just a lot. It was the, I believe the third building erected in that town.

Generation X Paranormal (10:34)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Okay.

Jill Shelley (10:49)
as well. So just a lot of history that yeah, I mean, we're still learning a lot of stuff. know, you can only, you know, get the tip of the iceberg. Like when we go to the town of Keesburg actually has a museum that the mayor has put together, Sharon Reason. She's done a phenomenal job on it. But when I walked in there, there's so many books and so many things to go through. Like I would be there for days and days. But so just the few hours I

Generation X Paranormal (10:49)
That's a lot of history.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Shelley (11:19)
spent

there just finding that information. That was incredible to find that as well. And that's just the local town. We've gone to like other, the bigger places where they have more information and not really finding a whole lot just because they didn't keep really good records back then. it's just, it's really interesting to be and uncovering some of the things that we have been finding. Like the Masons had like one of the first world's largest picnics. They had like over a hundred people. They came from everywhere. So yeah, it was kind of interesting to

Generation X Paranormal (11:30)
Right.

Wow. Wow.

Jill Shelley (11:49)
to see all that.

Generation X Paranormal (11:51)
That's cool. It's in Illinois, correct? Okay.

Jill Shelley (11:55)
Yeah, it's in, it's, I'm

not good on the geography because I don't live in Illinois. So it's like, it's like, it's kind of, but yeah, it's, it's kind of like, I think more on the, the southern border, I would say, southern northern, if that even makes sense. But we're like three hours from St. Louis, Missouri.

Generation X Paranormal (12:00)
Right.

Yeah,

I think I kind of know what I think I looked it up as we're kind of researching. It's not too far, I think, from Springfield, Illinois. It's kind of it's not obviously right there, but it's it's kind of as you're headed up towards. We've made that drive about a million times to Chicago. we're somewhat familiar with it. But no, that's actually pretty close to to St. Louis. mean, well, three hours, respectively.

Jill Shelley (12:40)
It's got a nice location

because it's I said three hours from St. Louis. Some places in Wisconsin you're only two to three, four hours. Indiana, some places are only four or five hours. So it's got a lot of Iowa you can get there in four or five hours depending where you're at. If you're more closer you're like an hour away. There's some places in Iowa you're only an hour away. So depending you know where you are. So it's got a nice little draw. It's centrally located.

Generation X Paranormal (12:49)
Okay.

Nice.

Yeah, and that's always the thing with some of the

paranormal places. It's like, hey, it's really active, but you need to take eight trains, six buses, four flights. It's going to take you a year and a half to get there. There's nowhere to eat. There's nowhere to stay. Yeah, you're going to to sleep on a cot outside. We'll do it. Any paranormal investigator will do it. But it's always nice when there's at least something that's somewhat creature comfort close. So that's awesome.

Jill Shelley (13:15)
Yeah.

Yeah.

You

Right.

Generation X Paranormal (13:32)
Okay, so you'd sent us some evidence and we went through it and it's definitely interesting things there. And now that you've told us it wasn't just a Masonic Lodge, some of this will make better sense, right, for us. So we're gonna kind of talk evidence sort of EVP and kind of what you sent us and kind of just go down. But to start off.

The K2, I guess you had one on an Armois, and I don't know if your K2 is the same as all the rest of them, or is it built into something else, but it was on an Armois, and you got to see a blip. What's the story behind that?

Jill Shelley (14:15)
Well yeah, just your regular typical K2 meter that everybody can buy for the $59 that's out there. But what I found more interesting with a lot of things with the K2 activity or any of the EMF detectors or anything that people use for EMF for investigating, this building has zero, no power.

Generation X Paranormal (14:18)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jill Shelley (14:34)
There is no power in this building whatsoever. I've even gone up to like the power box. I've walked around with it. You just don't get any power residual from anything. Even if I go close, you know, there is an establishment next door and you know, you can hear their AC units kick on and off and I'll go stand on that side of the building while they're running and I'm not picking it up.

Generation X Paranormal (14:34)
Hmm.

Hmm. Wow.

Jill Shelley (14:57)
So it's nothing

even from them. But to have it sitting in, like you say, that China Hutch on a piece of wood. And I had just put a bunch of Masonic items that we had brought. I know some people who donated some Masonic items. So I brought them. And I was just like, hey, we brought these things for you. So I'm just going to put this here. And if you like it, go ahead and hit it. So yeah, they've used a lot of that. They've used the EMF trip wires. It's just, yeah, a lot of really good EMF stuff.

Generation X Paranormal (15:18)
Hmm.

That's awesome. That is good

information to have that there's no electricity. So you get a baseline in there and it could be zilch and then it actually adds a lot. Yeah, for it to get some credibility. Kind of teeing off on the REM pod. And I think this might have been a millimeter because when I was looking at it by the doll, but you have a pretty good amount of activity around that doll. not only was there EVP, but there was also

other evidence which we're talking about that right now but around that doll can you first of all the doll obviously isn't probably originally from the lodge but what's the story in bringing the doll in or was it there

Jill Shelley (16:09)
You know we just that was the particular I brought in things just because that was my first time investigating there after I purchased it So I did that mini investigation And that's when I heard the kids and so I brought toys with me to see if I can entice any Activity as well, so I had put it down, and I felt like I wanted to put it in that room But they're kind of everywhere. We've learned that now So we like have a little boy upstairs

Generation X Paranormal (16:31)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Shelley (16:37)
named Cody with two E's, he was very specific about that. he, you know, he didn't tell me how he died, but his friend Mark lives there and Mark, Mark died of a fever and I'm guessing it might have been like maybe measles or something, scarlet fever, because the way the little boy described it, he said he was hot, hot like fire and he had sores on him.

Generation X Paranormal (16:41)
Hmm.

No.

Jill Shelley (17:02)
So

Generation X Paranormal (17:02)
No.

Jill Shelley (17:03)
I think that's what happened with his friend and I and but Cody this never really told me while he's there but his mother's there we've talked to his mother and she apologized that he's a pest and we said he's not really we really enjoy having them so so we have

Generation X Paranormal (17:18)
Wow. Wow.

Jill Shelley (17:19)
pretty good communication. when I tell these stories, it's because with the conversations is one of our teammates, Teresa, is like the best Estes queen ever. She is phenomenal. I have never seen anybody do it like she does. Most people, I actually, you you get the yes, no, sometimes a good sentence. But with her, I almost feel like they take over her and they get inside her because her whole body posture changes. Sometimes her voice

almost changes a little bit different, she acts different, we have one-on-one conversations like I'm having with you, you know, she being blindfolded and headphone and like I'll get up and she's like where are going? Like so how did she know that or if I yawn she's like don't, it's too early don't yawn. You know, so just little things like that or you know then I'll be like well what, you know, what am I doing now? And they're like you're waving your hand.

Generation X Paranormal (18:07)
Wow.

Jill Shelley (18:14)
You know, so it's like, it's so validating with what she talks. So that's how we're getting a lot of the communication that we've learned from the spirits we've also had. There's Masons there as well. So there's people from actually the hotel and people from the Masonic Lodge. So it's a little gamut of everything, men, women, children. What I find very interesting is, you know, now that I purchase it, of course you learn, you meet the town folk, which they're great people.

Generation X Paranormal (18:14)
Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Shelley (18:44)
but they tell me ghost stories about that building all the time. So it's really kind of fun. When I was first there and I was just cleaning and getting things ready, because it had been abandoned for about 10 years, nobody had been in it, one of the master masons from the town had stopped by and he introduced himself. And after we did our hi, so and so, the first words out of his mouth was, you seen her? And I said, see, no. He's like the woman.

Generation X Paranormal (18:47)
I'm sure they do. Yeah.

Jill Shelley (19:12)
I go, well, what woman? And he goes, I've seen her all the time when I was here cleaning by myself or be here by myself. She wanders the halls. She's wearing white. We see her all the time. So as many people from the town said, they have seen her through the windows. They've seen her walking around. So it's kind of interesting. And another one had told me a story where they had come into the building. They walked in, and there was a woman on their hands and knees scrubbing the floor. They said hello. She said hello back.

They went into the kitchen, said, hey, who's scrubbing the floors? And the people are like, there's nobody scrubbing the floors. And of they go out there, and there's nobody there. So yeah, so it does have quite the history of the hauntings.

Generation X Paranormal (19:46)
Yeah.

Jill Shelley (19:54)
We're just learning the tip of the iceberg. For me, I'm pretty far away, so I don't get there as much. I have seen some of the, we've probably had, I don't know, maybe 20 or so paranormal teams in there. And all of them had different types of different experiences. People have gotten EVPs. They've gotten touched.

They've seen shadows, some people have seen men there. So yeah, just a whole gamut of stuff, a lot of equipment interaction, tons of equipment interaction. I think they like it. I've had to teach them, per se, how to use it, what it is. We're really receptive to it. So a lot of times they will communicate with you with a particular device and such.

Generation X Paranormal (20:25)
Sure.

Awesome. Are you finding that a lot of it's more intelligent rather than residual or are you looking at kind of a healthy mixture of all?

Jill Shelley (20:49)
I would say a mixture of all, but I would say mostly, I would say most of them are intelligent. know, just because like I said, they respond directly to, I wouldn't say commands, but if you're asking, hey, step away, it instantly steps away. You know, and then if you're like, okay, one, two, three, touch, and it will go.

Generation X Paranormal (20:53)
Hmm.

Okay.

Okay.

Jill Shelley (21:07)
You know, it's like they're really they're really staying in tune and I think you know because nobody's really talked to them for gosh forever This is probably super fun. I'm sure it's gonna get old with that. How did you die?

Generation X Paranormal (21:14)
Right. Yeah. No kidding. All right. That building

was abandoned for 10 years. I mean, nobody's been in there. So yeah, that would make sense. We we also have an EVP Jedi that we call Estes or sorry, Estes. Hello. Whoo. But when she had a long story short.

Jill Shelley (21:34)
Yeah.

Generation X Paranormal (21:43)
she had a back-to-back SSS with somebody else and there were two entities talking to each other between the two that didn't even know they existed at the same place. So I always find that interesting too where maybe you run into something like that where, depending on how you believe and kind of how this whole thing works.

There could be several entities that don't even know there's other ones there and through that kind of medium that channel They can discover it was a very interesting conversation So yeah, it's yeah

Jill Shelley (22:18)
yeah, that

would be, because I do know they interact with each other, you know, at other locations and stuff. We've had that where we've done the double-estes session and we've had two of them arguing with each other.

Generation X Paranormal (22:21)
Right.

Awesome.

Jill Shelley (22:32)
So yeah,

that was kind of interesting. But yeah, so we do know, and I have asked before, they're like, yeah, we meet new people over here. So yeah, so very interesting to find out that, yeah, you could be in that different plane where you don't know somebody's there. So that is really interesting.

Generation X Paranormal (22:38)
that's cool.

Yeah, it is very, when we saw it, we're like, oh wow, that's kind of, that's a new dimension I hadn't really thought of, you know? One of the key pieces of evidence that I liked a lot was the podium. So you had a REM pod go off on the podium, which, you REM pods, you know, they're a tool just like anything else. Sometimes if you're too close with the, you know, walkie talkie or a phone or stuff, it can cause issues.

Jill Shelley (22:53)
Great.

Generation X Paranormal (23:16)
But as you said, there's no electricity in this thing. But what I find interesting is that podium, was that original to that property?

Jill Shelley (23:24)
No, we actually, brought that in. actually, believe it not, found it for like five bucks. So we're like, that's going to fit there real nice. So, but right now we'll...

Generation X Paranormal (23:29)
that's awesome. Yeah, right.

Jill Shelley (23:34)
What

we have on it is an actual Masonic Bible. So we have that up there and we have some other, we have like a Masonic gavel that was given to us that was actually used during meetings. So we've added things to it. yeah, we put things up on the podium all the time. Every time I bring something new, I usually put a device by it and say, hey, if you like it, light it up, let me know.

Generation X Paranormal (23:37)
Okay.

Hmm.

Yeah, for sure. The reason I like it is most people, not even depending on the era, most people that see a podium, that's kind of that feeling to go up to it like you're gonna, I mean everybody does their Oscar acceptance speech and stuff like that. If you're up at a podium, you're gonna talk to it whether you have an audience or not.

So to get activity from it, just kind of reminds me of thinking like a ghost, like, hey, I'm going to come up here. Yeah. I'm the star of the show right now. of the show. I just found it interesting. It's just, it's really good evidence. yeah, it's just one of those thoughts I had where, you know, they're probably up there, you know, joking with each other. Speaking of joking, and this wasn't a joke, but I got to bring it up because I had no idea how to pivot to this. So in the kitchen,

There was a piece of evidence that you sent us and I crack up because I would be the person that yelled in it, but I would too. Yeah, I'm not going to lie just because we investigate and we do it all the time. I'm scared. High percentage of the time everywhere we're going. But so so in the kitchen there was a very loud audible bang. And by the way, we're going to add all this stuff into the episodes. You guys can hear it. But but yeah, can you kind of tell us? We talked a little bit before we started, but.

Jill Shelley (24:59)
you

Generation X Paranormal (25:15)
You kind of give us some history behind the loud bang.

Jill Shelley (25:18)
Yeah, was in the kitchen, we had like our coolers of food and everything. We were all in like the main dining area and we had, because it was cold and we had a space heater going or a propane heater going, so we had all the doors closed. So we go out to the kitchen, she's out there by herself. So Teresa's out there making a sandwich. We're all in the other room. And all of a sudden I heard this loud.

Bam! And my first thought was, my god, she dropped the cooler on the floor. That's exactly what I thought had happened. And then she comes busting through the door, and she said something just slammed something behind me. Well, the lodge is vacant. Like at that time, I had very minimal chairs. I didn't really have anything. So there's really nothing that's going to fall that's going to make that sound.

Generation X Paranormal (25:44)
Yeah.

Jill Shelley (26:03)
So in the video, in the audio that I sent you, you'll hear her banging around because she's trying to get out and she's screaming. But the first original bang, you know, and she even joked later too, like she said, she goes, it's not that I was scared, she's like, it was just very startling and my first reaction is just get out of here.

Generation X Paranormal (26:08)
You

Yeah.

Jill Shelley (26:21)
But we had gone back and tried to replicate it and the only sound that we could do, even with us being in the other room, was one of the kitchen cupboards. If you took it and you slammed it just like that, it made that exact smack sound. So that's what we assumed it was. Because even then later that night we would hear doorknobs turning, like somebody trying to get in and stuff.

Generation X Paranormal (26:36)
interesting

Yeah, right. Well, that would have been

a force because it's loud. Yeah, it's super loud and you guys are going to hear it. But I think for me, aside from wanting to force project out of my body when that happened, going back and try to replicate that, that's got to be really difficult because you're right. If it's the only thing that makes that kind of noise would be to slam it. Now we're talking, OK, now.

Jill Shelley (26:48)
Yeah.

Generation X Paranormal (27:10)
Are we poltergeist kind of here? Where are we with some of this? And that's interesting because that takes that takes a lot of energy. yeah, of course. that. Yeah. And it takes that standard. OK, there's some activity here and you can get some interaction. But now to kind of breach into that, that physical physicality of it, that's that's going to be one of those where.

Hold on tight kids. Well, maybe they wanted a sandwich. Maybe they didn't want to try to say make me a sandwich. Right. It's been 10 years and she wasn't paying attention. I've been waiting 10 years. I just want to tune on right.

Jill Shelley (27:40)
Thank

Either that or there's a, I don't know if she's still there, but there's a lot of things. So the Lodge actually shared with the Eastern Star, which is the female version of the Masons. So.

Generation X Paranormal (28:03)
Okay.

Jill Shelley (28:04)
Part of the lodge, it's the Robert Burns Lodge, but Mary Burns, the wife that was there for the Masonic, she was, I heard very particular about her kitchen. You did not remove things in the kitchen. You did not do certain things in the kitchen. She actually has like one of those Styrofoam ice buckets, you know, and it says

Generation X Paranormal (28:15)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Jill Shelley (28:24)
Do not remove without talking to Mary Burns written on the bucket. So I've kept that, of course, and I've put it up there, up tops. So it could have been Mary saying, what are you doing in my kitchen kind of thing. It's hard to say. But interesting that you get that type of validation after. These are things like I didn't know prior. It's just things I've learned. And then you're like, hey, maybe that's what happened.

Generation X Paranormal (28:28)
Hmm.

Okay.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

God, please don't move that thing. Because it would probably be detrimental to everybody. Yeah, that's interesting though. It very well could be. So just kind of getting on the EVPs. I know there was a part where someone, I don't know if it was you or not, had said, can you do that again? And the EVP, which will play, yeah, what did, did you guys immediately hear that upon playback or was that something you guys kind of caught later?

Jill Shelley (28:54)
you

And most of our EVPs we've caught later, which I wish at the time, maybe, because we do have live listening to it, but we're always not listening to the live. And I'm not one that plays it. A lot of people do a little session and play it back. I'm one that just lets it go for the entire time that I'm there to pack up or whatever. So I didn't hear it at the time, but just knowing, and it sounded like a child as well.

Generation X Paranormal (29:23)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

us too.

Hmm.

Jill Shelley (29:48)
you know, knowing now that children live there, and it's really kind of validating that you're getting kids' as well.

Generation X Paranormal (29:53)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's

very clear. I mean, I said to him it's like that's a kid. yeah Yeah, and even with staying with the AVPs in that doll room You get another child voice saying you've got dolls so

Jill Shelley (30:08)
Right, right, yeah,

because when, yeah, and we had dolls there too, so they were pretty excited about that. So we've bought some more things for them that they asked for because they're pretty needy.

Generation X Paranormal (30:11)
Mm-hmm.

Well, yeah,

I mean, they've been there's going to be a lit like a Christmas list, right? Here, your ass is person is going to be like, you're not going to believe this. They want a helmet from the San Diego Chargers that doesn't even exist anymore. Instead of dear Santa, it's going to be dear Jill. Yeah, this is what I want for Christmas. Yeah.

Jill Shelley (30:23)
Yep.

Yeah.

What?

Generation X Paranormal (30:39)
And then of course, I think the one kind of capping it off with some of the evidence from Masonic Lodge was the, and I imagine, is this a cupboard that's in the wall that's got the doors open?

Jill Shelley (30:50)
Yeah, I think that that was, we were just using that for the filming of the thing.

Generation X Paranormal (30:56)
Okay, okay, gotcha.

Well, that's a pretty interesting EVP because that is also incredibly, it's like class A EVP, but You Want That Now came across and I thought that was, again, that is similar to the Can't Say I Would, it's such a clear EVP.

Jill Shelley (31:16)
Yeah, we do get a lot of really good clear EVPs there, which is really nice. But you also get a lot of whispers and I can't make it out and then I get all depressed and like, what did they say? They said something.

Generation X Paranormal (31:23)
Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yes. We have those two.

Jill Shelley (31:30)
But yeah, for a lot them, they are like the Class A's. I usually don't have to enhance them or really do a whole lot to them. So yeah, it's just really kind of a, it's so neat. I think right now it's so new that the spirits are actually enjoying all the interaction with everything. We've never had anything bad or malevolent, anything like that. I think some of the touching is out of curiosity. So it's just been really kind of just a really fun place to get to know.

Generation X Paranormal (31:36)
That's awesome.

Sure.

Yeah.

Jill Shelley (32:00)
get to know the spirits. So hopefully they'll be part of my family at some point because the spirits at the Boyd House are like my second family.

Generation X Paranormal (32:00)
That's awesome.

Yes,

we're about to jump into that too, but I don't know it may have to go check that out that sounds like a lot. Yeah, the Masonic Lodge I think

I think it's great. think now knowing that there's much more history than just being a lodge, I think that the more people investigated, I obviously the story kind of unfolds a little bit. Um, you know, we've kind of been a part of that too, where, know, you're the first few investigators in, you think it's one thing and then as time goes on and becomes something entirely different. Um, so that's, that's great. I can't wait to hear how the, how that kind of all unfolds. That should be a lot of fun. Um, but, uh, yeah, the Boyd house.

So the Boyd House is known. like I said at the beginning, there's been a lot of people have gone out there, done investigations, and this was your first. kind of walk us through, like you said, you hadn't had your own place. How did this come about and like what made you put pen to paper?

Jill Shelley (33:11)
Again, I just was looking, you my realtor knew I wanted something haunted. Well, she doesn't know anything about that. So it was up to me to just to tell her to book me at this place. You know, we went and looked at several other places, did a little bit of investigations.

Generation X Paranormal (33:20)
Yeah.

Jill Shelley (33:27)
But when I came across the Boyd House again, that one just stood out to me and I just almost became a little bit obsessed with it before we even went and looked at it. I just kept going through the pictures. I'm like, really like this house. I'm really attached to this house already. Then when I went with one of my teammates, we were just waiting for the realtor to show up. And I just kind of felt like something was staring at me through the window. And I kind of mentioned it to my teammate. She's like, yep, I feel it through the attic window. That's where I'm feeling it.

Generation X Paranormal (33:51)
Hmm.

Jill Shelley (33:52)
But then we went inside and you could feel something was there, but it was stained back, you know. And again, this house, nobody had lived in. Somebody had lived in it for like 30 years, I think, but they had not lived in it for a year. So nobody's been there for whole year. So of course, you know, we're new.

Generation X Paranormal (33:58)
Mm-hmm.

Hmm, okay.

Jill Shelley (34:10)
We did get a few things on the spirit box. one of the first things I got was a woman saying, are you? Which makes a lot of sense because now I'm this stranger. I'm in here. talking. One of our REM pods went off within about a half hour being there, you know. So it's real minimal things. I didn't get any EVPs, anything like that. Just kind of got the feel. So I reached out to a medium. I really trust she gave me lot of information from her site, which a lot of things came true as I bought the house.

Generation X Paranormal (34:18)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Shelley (34:40)
and started to learn some stuff. So a lot of things she told me had come true. But then I just thought, well, you know what, I'm just going to ask previous owners because they've lived there and they did real hesitantly talk about it. But they said that they sometimes would hear old time music playing.

Generation X Paranormal (34:50)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Shelley (34:58)
Her daughter seemed to have more interaction with the spirits than anybody else in the family. And she told me that she had seen a man in the basement a couple of times. So there was this kind of history. again, since as you buy it, people come forward and tell you things. Some people were like, yeah, I used to know the family. I slept over there when I was a kid. And things would touch my feet, pull the blankets. So there is a little bit of history of what's going on there. So what we've learned about

Generation X Paranormal (35:14)
Right.

Jill Shelley (35:28)
the house itself. You know was built in 1901 but the main family who moved in was in like 1912 and that was the Eckhart family and they had two of their children pass away in the home. One choked to death and one was in infancy. They both passed away in the house just both of strokes and then we also had a woman in the 70s pass away again elderly stroke. So nothing nothing that we personally other than the tragic choking know of any other confirmed deaths in the house.

We've had several people say, yeah, there has been. It's just not on paper. But the town was also butted up against the Sioux Dakota reservation line. So there could be a lot of things with that. was a very small town now. There's really only about 150 people in town. But back in the day, it was a big booming town. There was 500 people in town. The railroad ran right through that. The tracks actually run pretty much right in our backyard.

Generation X Paranormal (36:03)
Okay, yeah.

Mm.

Jill Shelley (36:25)
But the owner, the Eckhart owners, they owned one of the stores in town. So they owned the high-end grocery stores. So they had like the fancy foods, the fur coats, the shoes, everything. But the town had like a creamery, a movie theater, billards, hotels, restaurants, everything. Now there's like nothing there.

But he was well respected businessman because he was also part of the fire department. He was on the farm bureau. He was on the school board. Him, his brother, and his father helped build the Lutheran church. So very religious family. So very well respected. And again, like I said, he died in the house as well. And I think that's why he stays is because he just loves that house and the whole town and everything so much. That's why he continues to stay. But we also have always kind of had child activity too.

Generation X Paranormal (37:07)
Yeah.

Jill Shelley (37:16)
and not so much on a two-year-old level, but more I always kind of felt like somebody who was like eight and eleven years of age. And we don't know where they came from. We've been told that they just like being there. But we get, you know, different EVPs of, you know, that age sound.

of a child versus like we've also got like little little kid voices too. But you can audibly hear kids sometimes laughing, running around giggling. I've audibly heard adult voices and that helps many times. it's just really active, just a really fun place. think doing what we've done and have been doing it for so long, I think there is some sort of portal there that is bringing

in the spirits plus you know we're just doing it so much I mean Boyd has just really grown in popularity so it's been more busy and I feel like a lot of other locations same thing that the more you're doing that you're more that energy you're putting in and then the spirits are coming through because I've gotten names of things and they don't correlate to my deed or any any whatsoever and some of them I've asked and I'm like are you do you live here or they're like just passing through

Generation X Paranormal (38:33)
Yeah

Jill Shelley (38:34)
Well, it's just kind of interesting that we just get, it's just a whole gamut. Again, nothing evil, bad, or malevolence or anything at the Boyd House. You know, we have one crabby guy down in the basement, George. Used to be really crabby with me, but now we're fine. We're good.

Generation X Paranormal (38:45)
You

Yeah. You

know, it's funny, we're actually working on a case right now that's very similar where it's just starting out. And the thing that I always try to wrap my head around, and it is a concept that I think as you do this for a long period of time, you always worry about something called an egregore. You always worry about...

the people coming in constantly feeding an energy can create that energy. You can absolutely can create, whether it's a portal or however it's done, enough people believe it for so long and they put that direction of energy at whether or whatever it is.

It has been known that it does cause some paranormal attachment that may not have existed prior. So that's, very interesting and you're right, a lot of the, you know, the bigger pay to plays and all the bigger places, you'll find that it evolves and there's all these different things that start, kind of start coming into play. But now I find that incredibly interesting. Yeah, I do too.

Jill Shelley (39:57)
And then

we've redone the house back to the 1900s too. we have a lot of antiques in the house that we've purchased. So there could be some attachments there. Some of our dolls are supposedly haunted with spirit. So we have those there too. So I say supposedly, but I can tell you some of them are.

Generation X Paranormal (40:01)
Yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Jill Shelley (40:19)
So yeah, there's

just, mean, we've kind of put some things in there too, just to kind of heighten the activity level as well. it's just been, I just love that place. I just go there and I just spend all my time talking to them. I love buying them. I'm the only one, I swear, who shops for the dead. I'm always buying lots of good gifts.

Generation X Paranormal (40:38)
You're not. You're not.

Jill Shelley (40:41)
You know, so it's like

people sometimes hear me like, my god, Fred and Benny would love that. They're probably thinking, she's buying stuff for her grandparents. No, I'm not.

Generation X Paranormal (40:47)
Right. That's awesome.

Jill Shelley (40:51)
But yeah, we

have a shelf dedicated to Minnie. So we learned one of her great-grandsons lives in town. So he told us a bunch of stories, which is really cool, because those are things we're never going to find in a history book. So we learned when she fell down the stairs and broke her arm.

Generation X Paranormal (41:06)
Yeah.

Jill Shelley (41:12)
things like she used to wait outside the window for Fred to come home when she saw him coming, she put the tee on real quick. So it was just, you know, just little things that she would never get to know. But we learned that she loved ferns and so we bought her a fake fern and so she loves that fern. So yeah, like we've put like a red pod by it and she really likes it. And one particular time I remember this was like one of the coolest experiences. Teresa was in the kitchen.

Generation X Paranormal (41:18)
Mmm.

Right.

That's awesome.

Jill Shelley (41:39)
And I was up, so her shelf is like by the stairwell. So we have all kinds of religious artifacts and her fern is up there. So I was dusting and as I picked up the fern and was wiping, I audibly heard something but it was like an electronic voice where I didn't quite hear what they said. But I heard something and my split second was, Teresa must have turned on the spirit box but I'm kind of thinking, she's cleaning in the kitchen. would she be turning that on? And this all happened in fractions of a second. She goes, what? What did you say?

And I said, I didn't say anything. She goes, well, I heard you say leave it. And I said, I was picking up the fern. So then we just correlated with many thought maybe I was taking it or doing something where I was just really picking it up to clean it. But yeah, I've heard women talking in there. It's like the old grates in the floor so you can hear exactly what's going up and down on each level.

Generation X Paranormal (42:21)
Sure.

yeah. huh.

Jill Shelley (42:36)
And there was one particular morning, so all the girls were sleeping downstairs and I was just sleeping up in the main bedroom. And I woke up, it was like seven in the morning, I was just, you know, the sun was coming through and I'm like, oh, this is really peaceful, you know, it's kinda nice to wake up. And just sitting there and all of sudden I heard like women talking downstairs very faintly and I was like, oh, the girls are up, I guess I'll get up now. So I went downstairs and they're all sound asleep. There was not one person up.

Generation X Paranormal (42:57)
Mm-hmm.

Wow. Yeah, that's really cool. I mean, like we said, it is a well-known established place and there's no shortage. mean, if you look up on YouTube, I mean, you've had several the YouTubers come out there and there's no shortage of evidence out there, some of which I'm sure is, you

For debate and some of it maybe not, you know, everybody gets different interpretations of things but But some of the evidence that you've caught that you sent us it was it was very interesting because and one in particular and we'll get to it here in a second, but the the card on the table How'd you end up catching that because we kept staring at the card and then of course

something else falls. And we thought for a second, wait, what was that? know? So I was like, is that an orb? Yeah. Like a bug? I couldn't tell. I had to watch it like three times.

Jill Shelley (44:02)
Yeah, that's like one of my favorite things. So what we learned, Minnie likes cards. She likes to gamble. She likes to play cards. But I actually saw another paranormal team do it first, is they actually played the game of 21 with K2 meter. And I was like, oh, interesting. So I started doing that. And so when they want to hit, they hit the K2 meter. And let me tell you, they play really well. They really do.

Generation X Paranormal (44:09)
Okay.

Okay.

Holy crap,

that's awesome.

Jill Shelley (44:31)
So,

you know, and I can see the cards, you know, I have to look at them and so I have them out, so, but it's like they're giving me the instructions whether they want to hit or not. It's even been to the point where I ran a spirit box during it one time, said, well, what do you want to do? You want to stay? You want to hit? What do you want to do? And it was plain as day, I said, we'll stay. So yeah, they really, they really enjoy the cards and they like playing cards. So a lot of people go down there and play cards with them and I think they like that. But.

Generation X Paranormal (44:34)
Yeah.

Huh. That's so cool.

Sure.

Jill Shelley (44:58)
That night, we had a rempah on the table, it was going on and off a lot, so we were getting a lot of interaction on there. But I had taken that one card and I had pushed it right to the edge, not over the edge, not even hanging, it was just one card directly to the edge. And I kept saying, know, gosh, if you guys had real fun tonight, if you really had a good time, you just whip that right off the table there, that'll let me know that you had a good time, we'll keep doing this for you. And then, you know, I said that every time I came down. Then I said it again the last time before I went to bed, and...

It was about a half hour after I went to bed and we had left a camera sitting on that table and that card went shooting off. And so let me tell you, when I came down in the morning, I saw it on the floor, I was jumping up and down. I was like, oh my God, you guys did it! And I thought, gosh, I hope I caught that on film. So I was, you know.

Generation X Paranormal (45:35)
So cool.

I bet.

Yeah, I know that's always

the scare like I didn't catch it. That's the real fear. Everybody says you're scared of the ghost. No, no, no, I'm not scared of that. I'm scared of did I actually catch the damn thing?

Jill Shelley (45:56)
Right, and I was using one of my

old school cameras so that I had the old tape in it so after four hours she's done. So I was like, please, let's hope that.

Generation X Paranormal (46:03)
Yeah. Yeah.

man. Yeah, that was a great catch. It really was. And then, of course, the one that that's really evident is the the shadows in the hallway by that piano. That that's again, that's one of those shadows. You pick up right away. There's absolutely no second guessing what that is. Were you guys doing an active investigation or was that just a camera that you had running?

Jill Shelley (46:32)
Actually, that was sent to me by the NAPS paranormal team, the Northern Outer Realm Paranormal Team. They had actually captured that, so they just left that camera running. And to me, it looks more like those...

pre-adolescent children is because it was like one and two. That's the thought I got of it. And you know I've had people like, oh it's car headlights. Well you don't know how my house is set up and there's absolutely 100 % no way car headlights, that's in the kitchen. There's not even a window in there. There is one window but it faces the opposite direction so the car lights would have had to go that way if it was.

Generation X Paranormal (46:48)
Yes.

Okay.

Jill Shelley (47:11)
So yeah, you probably wouldn't anyway because we've got a bunch of trees right there. So, you know, the fact that I do know how the house is set up and there is absolutely no way and a lot of people do see shadows in the kitchen. They do see a lot of activity in that hallway. My teammate one time, I was on the phone with my husband and she was in the living room.

and she was just kind of messing with equipment and all of a sudden she starts screaming shadow person, shadow person and I'm like what? And she's like, just, she's like a black shadow just peeked around the door frame to see what was going on but we'll get a lot of people getting that type of evidence. Like it's real active around the stairs. We have that split staircase that goes up one way, up the other and then it meets in the middle and then you go up.

Generation X Paranormal (48:00)
Yep.

Jill Shelley (48:02)
So yeah, just a lot of different activity. My husband actually, which I was jealous of because he's not really a ghost guy and I've never seen an actual full body apparition and he did. Yeah, so he was like coming in the house carrying a box and he looked up at the stairwell and at the top he said there was a woman with long brown hair kind of like you. She looked like you for just a split second. I looked away, I looked back, she's gone. So I was like, finally got to see her but then

Generation X Paranormal (48:13)
Of course.

Ha ha ha ha!

Jill Shelley (48:30)
Just interestingly, it was just, we were just there a couple weeks ago and he sleeps downstairs. He's just more comfortable sleeping. So he was actually sleeping in Fred and Minnie's. Well, originally their bedroom was upstairs, but as they got elderly, they moved downstairs. So the piano room was their bedroom where they both passed away. He sleeps in there and he woke up at like two o'clock in the morning with heavy, heavy perfume smell.

Generation X Paranormal (48:48)
Mmm.

Jill Shelley (48:58)
Like he said, it was so pronounced it woke him up out of a dead sleep. He thought, gosh, she must have a glade air freshener. That's what he kept telling us, that she must have one those. Yeah, like and he said he got up and he sniffed all the blankets. He sniffed everything because the night before we had like three ladies that were there. So we thought, well, maybe their perfume's lingering, right? But he couldn't find anything. Then he kind of tried to settle down. About a half hour later, it happened again.

Generation X Paranormal (48:59)
interesting.

Huh.

Jill Shelley (49:24)
And he's

just like looking around. like he doesn't hear anyone. doesn't see anyone. But he goes, it was so pronounced. And I said, well, we're sleeping in a room.

Generation X Paranormal (49:32)
Yeah. She's like, get out of here.

Well, and that's the thing. A lot of people forget perfumes in those days were very floral because they were made from actual flowers. They're they're quite pungent. mean, they really stuck. So, it's that's just wild. And kudos to him for getting to see the full body. I know it always happens to those that don't really care about it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Jill Shelley (49:42)
Right.

Yeah, I've seen shadows, you know, I've seen that, but I've never

seen like a full body apparition, so I would really like to see one. Well, I don't know, I don't know though. I mean, I don't know how you'd react. I always say I'd be like, it's really cool. And then I'm like, well, it might happen so fast that you can't react. Or would I turn it on? don't know. I mean, I put boundaries too when I like go to Boyd House and stuff. like, I love you guys, but nobody ever just let me open my eyes when I'm in bed and you're there. Don't ever do that to me.

Generation X Paranormal (50:03)
Yeah, you know you only- Same here.

Well, and I would imagine that.

Yeah,

Jill Shelley (50:25)
So they don't.

Generation X Paranormal (50:25)
that's not cool.

Jill Shelley (50:27)
You know, there's

been, you know, there's been times when I'm there by myself, like I have to go by myself, and I don't like it per se, but those are the days where I'm like, don't bother me today. I'm going to talk to you all day, but I don't want to hear you. I don't want to see you. You just, we're going to be neutral today. You know, there's been times too when I've been there and I'm like working in the bathroom or something, and I can hear the footsteps coming up the stairs, and I'm the only one here. And I'm like, not today, guys, not today.

Generation X Paranormal (50:45)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Shelley (50:57)
they

do respect me and they don't they don't do it.

Generation X Paranormal (50:59)
That's good. Little quid pro quo. I mean, you kind

of need that for. Well, especially in the bathroom. That's like always my thing. I'm like, I'm in the bathroom. This is an off limit space. Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Shelley (51:09)
Well that

Bedinga time was wallpapering. So yeah, we were just doing some work in the bathroom and stuff.

Generation X Paranormal (51:18)
Yeah, that's awesome.

So the evidence that I always that just it's amazing is the rocking horse. Now, they're like I said, there's tons of evidence out there and there's some that are, you know, really, really captivating. But this one, you know, if you know these horses and I would imagine not having been there, the attic doesn't have a ton of airflow. Most of them typically don't, especially as an older home. Usually they're pretty known for being stuffy and always.

cold as you know what in the winter and hot as you know what during the summer. Is that pretty similar to what you guys have? Right, exactly. So the evidence that you sent us and again, we're going to play it here, but but you see the rocking horse go back and forth and it's not like it's just a nudge. It's it's a full rock. did you guys catch that or was that another team that caught it and send it?

Jill Shelley (51:53)
yeah, you've got a very brief window where you can go up there and comfortable.

Yeah, that

was another team that sent that to me. I have seen that rocking horse move, but it's never been to the effect that that particular group sent me. You know, I very, very gently and stuff. But we do get a lot of things that do move in the house. Dolls will move.

Generation X Paranormal (52:16)
All

Yeah.

Jill Shelley (52:31)
we've had like a ball get rolled down the stairs, not all the time, but several groups, and then they'll go put it back up there, and then it'll come back down again. It's like on those days, we're like having a lot of fun. But I've put balls up there on days, it's the same ball, because everybody seems to find my red ball that they seem to use around the house. So I'll even use the same ball, and it doesn't necessarily go down the stairs for me. it's just on whatever given day, know, what kind of energy they have. It's like any place, if they don't like you, they're not going

interact with you either. know, and they just don't have the energy that day, you know, there's there's a whole lot of different factors on that because I've gone there where it's like dead nothing happens and gone there's where it's like my god you guys just stop.

Generation X Paranormal (53:02)
Right. That's true. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

yeah.

It's full moon. And intention

is such a big part of it too. You know, got some people that go in there and you know, they're very A type people and they, you know, they kind of...

It can rub, especially some of the, some of maybe the older entities that are from a different time that just didn't really, that's not how they converse in their time. So sometimes when you walk in there and if, if you're a little bit of more of a, of an alpha person, it can cause that sideways energy and it may not have anything to do with you. I've actually, I've seen it to where, you know, you, you, we have gone in there quietly done the whole investigation, try to be as respectful. And we got

some pretty good evidence. the same place, and we love them to death, a great team, but they had a different type of energy. They came in, they're very, very upbeat, very, you know, they just had a different energy and they got nothing. So I think it just really depends on intention and- The personality of the people that are there as well. Right. Yeah. So that's good advice to have, you know, if you're getting into it or if you're, you've been doing it forever, you know, sometimes you just need to,

to realize that if you're going into a house like the Boyd house or like, I don't know, like McIntire or something like that, these are older homes. They're gonna have older, very potentially older entities. So, you know, their way of getting along is gonna be different than yours, so.

Jill Shelley (54:44)
And I, you know, we've done some stuff where we've learned like many doesn't like swearing, which of course they didn't swear back in the day. Now it's part of our everyday language. It's not even really a swear word. It's just words. But to them it's more like, you know, so, you know.

Generation X Paranormal (54:49)
Yeah

All right.

Right. Yeah. How dare you in my home? Yeah.

Jill Shelley (55:04)
And I've watched

videos of people and it's not necessarily they're yelling at the ghost but even just talking amongst themselves they're F this F that that that and I'm like and my thought is I'm like man he's not gonna like this

Generation X Paranormal (55:11)
Mm-hmm. Right.

No,

Yeah. Well, and it's an Airbnb, right? You guys actually do function as an Airbnb. OK.

Jill Shelley (55:26)
So we're

not listed on the Airbnb websites, anything like that. So we are primarily for paranormal investigation.

Generation X Paranormal (55:35)
Okay.

Okay. I was going to say that might be.

Jill Shelley (55:36)
But not you know,

yeah, not that we anybody can rent it, know, we're not gonna be like, you're not a paranormal team can't come in So actually we actually have provided some basic equipment for because we do have a lot of people that are really curious about it They want to come spend the night. It's a good place. It's a fun place. It's got electric It's got all the comforts at home. We provide snacks people love that and you know, so we give them some basic things like a k2 meter We got a motion light a voice recorder. We got a spirit box just a few little things for him to

Generation X Paranormal (55:42)
Right.

Sure.

Mm-hmm.

So cool.

Jill Shelley (56:06)
spirit balls, got like a little mini REM pod device and we got a little book that goes along that tells you how it works and what it does. So it's just a little bit of a few things that you know people can do because as you know as an investigator even with all your hundreds and millions of dollars and things of equipment

Generation X Paranormal (56:13)
That's That's great.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Shelley (56:24)
Nothing might be happening and so you're twiddling your thumbs So this at least gives somebody something to do when they don't really understand how Investigating goes and if they're lucky something will go off and that'll be super fun for them To get that type of interaction. So yeah, I mean we've had families come with and bring their children

Generation X Paranormal (56:27)
Yep.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

That's awesome.

Jill Shelley (56:45)
You know so it's like I'm fine with that as long as you know with their with their guardian and things like that I understand that this isn't just you know any old place

Generation X Paranormal (56:50)
Right.

Right, right.

comes with some nuances you wouldn't necessarily get at it well.

Jill Shelley (57:01)
Right, right. I've never heard

anything like, oh my god, my kids were terrified and they got attacked and they got possessed or nothing like that. Everything's just been really good positive stuff that's come out of the house.

Generation X Paranormal (57:08)
Yeah. Right.

for sure.

And honestly, that seems to sort of be a lot of the

of the stories that you get. Of course, there's gonna be, like you said, you got a crabby person in the basement. Well, you know, if you're an a-hole in life, you might be an a-hole as a ghost. And maybe you just need to, you know. There are still people. There are still people. And people are different. And sometimes, like you said, you gotta kinda build a rapport and go through that effort. And if you show that effort, obviously it's gonna reciprocate. So no, that's amazing. Yeah.

Jill Shelley (57:34)
Right.

Generation X Paranormal (57:48)
What a great amount of information. I know. So what's next? I mean, you've got the two properties. in kind of getting wrapped up on this, I want to make sure our audience knows, one, how they get a hold of you, or how do they get to go to the two properties, and sort of what that looks like, and how they can kind of reach out to you.

Jill Shelley (58:12)
Yeah, you can the Masonic Lodge you can find us both on Facebook both Boyd House and the Masonic Lodge but the Lodge you can find us at haunted1861masonic.com that's got our website so it's got a lot of little bit information as far as a little bit of history but you know how to make a reservation to spend the night and then Boyd House is Boyd House 217

And then again a lot of information there. We're actually Doing a paranormal convention at the Boyd house this September 27th, so we got a lot of different different special guests Adrian Lee's coming with different psychic and mediums and just all kinds of different workshops We've got an animal psychic there, too. So it's it's going to be a lot a lot of fun

So we're just doing that and all that information is at theboydhost217.com You know for you to get tickets and the links to Eventbrite and stuff like that, so

Generation X Paranormal (59:08)
fantastic.

That's amazing. going be a great event. Yeah, it really will. And great that you guys are providing some equipment. You know, go to some of these places and you're right. There's thousands of dollars of stuff that you go there with. And then a what? Ten dollars or ten dollars, a two dollar cat ball, you know, or. Yeah. Or usually the basic stuff. Yeah, just as basic thing. And you're like, I literally have a two thousand dollar device right next to it.

Jill Shelley (59:30)
you

Generation X Paranormal (59:38)
and this cat ball's getting all the action, the other thing's nothing. It's it's amazing. well listen, thank you so much for coming on. We had a great time. I think that we definitely are gonna wanna go to those places. I'm really interested in going to both, of course, because Boyd is...

Jill Shelley (59:42)
Yep.

Generation X Paranormal (59:56)
You know, I want to be able to take a look at it, you know, obviously with all the other evidence everybody else has collected. a longer road trip. Right. Just a longer road trip. The Masonic Lodge is within striking distance. So that's that's something we may be reaching out on because with it being somewhat new. Yeah, we'd love to come. And with it being new, you know, maybe we can go out there and just kind of get our feel for it and see what we come up with. But yeah, fantastic.

But yeah, again, thank you so much for coming on. It's been a pleasure and look forward to talking to you soon.

Jill Shelley (1:00:27)
Yeah, thanks for having me. It was great.

Generation X Paranormal (1:00:29)
Awesome. We'll see you later. Bye bye.

Jill Shelley (1:00:31)
Alright thanks, bye bye.

Generation X Paranormal (1:00:36)
Hey, thanks, Joe, for coming on. Yeah, thank you, Joe. That was a lot of fun. Again, owning to first of all, if you own to that's awesome. You know, I mean, I don't necessarily know people that own. I stop it to 10. 50. Well, come on, 50. Yeah. right. Fair enough. 50 would be cool. Yeah. I mean, if you have that kind of of resources, sure. Anyway.

I think with the amount of money we spent on gear, we probably could afford one. But yeah, she was a lot of fun. know, with again, with the Boyd House, it's a pretty well known hotspots, a well known place. But I'm super interested to check out that Mason Lodge. I am too, because the EVPs that they got, especially that that child one that when they say, can you do that again? Yeah. And it says, that's crazy. Yeah. Can't say that it would.

And it's so weird how they so clear. It's clear. And it's. It it speaks of like a different time. I was about to say it's period. Correct. Yes. Like. Like, no, I'm not going to do that. Yeah, that's what kids today would say. Right. Or or something with less English in it. Yes. Can't say that I would. It's very like British. Hello. Can't say that would. Yeah, that was terrible, by the way. And I apologize. I mean, I'd be but you know what I mean? Like that old. Right.

They would respond everybody has a different cadence from whatever era they're in. Yeah, you know, I I think of like a little little English boy, you know, right London or something with those little very proper, you know

That's what I see when I hear that. good. That's awesome. No, it's great. And I really do. And again, Boyd House, 100%. I mean, don't get me confused. We'd love to do the Boyd House. But I think the fact that the Masonic Lodge has been vacant for so long, it's that first getting things going. Those are the best, because not a million people have been there already. And it's like you're

you get to discover new things. And the worst part, and it's something that you even tell me don't do, and sometimes I got to listen to you because I do it. But if we're going to a place that's very well known, I'll start popping something on YouTube. And I'm like, don't do that because it messes with it gives you a preconceived notion. Yeah. Right. And it's true. It's true. You know, you look at things like, you know, conjuring house and all these other places where there's so much content out there. yeah. You know, we're just sway.

Right, yeah, exactly. And it's always cool to see a place that's not. And you can kinda, not necessarily put your own stamp on it, because it's not about owning something, it's just about being able to be some of the first boots on ground, if you will, to kinda. I just, mean, knowing the history is important. Like, that's the only time I'll like maybe turn on something, that they have the history at the very beginning, but then I turn it off. Like, once that's done.

I've gotten, know, but then I go and look it up and make sure it's accurate because sometimes it's not accurate. But that's good to know, because then if you get something with a name that associates with the history and I try not to use the names right at first, because you never know. That's a whole nother. That whole nother thing. Yeah. But it's just kind of exciting to be, know, when it's kind of new like. Yeah, for sure. I mean, tell us what you guys think. You know, leave comments, those sort of things you do.

It's okay. Leave us comments. I'm just kidding. Most are really nice. But yeah, just leave some comments. us what you think. It was a lot of fun. And we're really kind of ramping up some really cool stuff coming up, guys. It's going to be a great end of this season. So we're we're getting pretty excited. But other than that, guys, thank you so much for stopping by and we'll see you next week. See you next week.