Episode 45: When Life Gets Messy - Real Mom Updates That'll Make You Feel Better About Your Own Chaos

We're back on the mics after a restful, joy-filled, brief summer hiatus full of family fun and relaxation... and honestly? That's fake news. Between broken arms, cast-wearing toddlers, and gestational diabetes surprises, this episode is a real reality check. Tune in for the tea; stay for the perspective shifts we're employing to make sure we stay in the drivers seat of this enfolding chaotic ride.

Main Topics & Discussion

The Art of Surviving When Everything Goes Sideways

Cal kicks it off with a banger of a month: Her husband's bike accident left him with two broken elbows, unable to feed himself, pick up the kids, or basically function as a human adult. Meanwhile, she's pregnant and trying to sell their house. Because apparently the universe has a twisted sense of humor when it comes to timing. It's a masterclass in mom resilience and the kind of crisis management they don't teach you in parenting books. Should we be concerned she's still laughing and in good spirits?

Pregnancy Plot Twists and Birth Plan Reality Checks

Meanwhile, Emily is currently faced with the reality that her expectations for a non-medicated VBAC might need a reality check due to her gestational diabetes diagnosis (paired with the complications of her previous labor/delivery). This is not a time to panic and play defense. Emily is firmly in the offensive position and using this curveball to completely reframe her thinking about birth choices. We dive into the polarized world of natural, unmedicated births vs traditional hospital births, and envision a comfortable space in between for all the "Scrunchy" moms out there. The discussion about historical maternal mortality rates? Chef's kiss for perspective. This isn't just about birth plans – it's about how we define empowerment and make peace with plans changing.

Childlike Joy

Through all the medical drama and family dysfunction, there are these beautiful glimpses of childhood magic happening. These moments of pure kid joy provide the perfect counterbalance to the adult stress, reminding us why we do this whole parenting thing in the first place. Sometimes the best part of your day is watching your children belly-laugh at something completely inappropriate.

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Transcript

You and I are gonna be out having a really nice dinner.

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And we're gonna get home and the kids are gonna be in bed and it's gonna be fine.(...) What are you putting out there?

You're right, you're right. Well, my husband's not at full capacity, which we're gonna get into.

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Yeah, well first,

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what are you loving about motherhood?

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This week?

Oh, my kids are acting really like kid-ish, like older and they're like playing together and like they have their own jokes, which are mostly like fart related, which I think is horrifying, but they think it's really funny.

So like- Like they're jokes with each other? Yeah. That's so cute. Speaking of that. Cute.(...) One moment.

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Is

it going to be a hula? Dancer for Halloween?

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What are you going to be for Halloween?

A shark. A shark with grass?

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Okay, the scissors are in the drawer where they normally are, like underneath where the knife block is.(...) Put them away.

I don't know. I don't know. I can see them. They want it in there.

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Well then use your fancy scissors and your art bin.

But they are not sharp enough.

Well then you're going to have to look harder. Go pull up a chair to that drawer because I don't have any. Oh, here.

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Carry them the right way please. Down the stairs.

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Okay, don't go at the front, just the back.

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How many? I want to know how many of our listeners could just hand their four-year-old adult scissors and just tell them to be careful on the stairs. After saying, you know where the regular scissors are? They're right under the knife block.

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I mean, most four-year-olds are not, Charlie.

No, I know. Lord, do I know.

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No.

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Anyways, okay, so my kids are playing together and it's really cute and they laugh about things that we don't really think are funny but then it's so funny when they're belly laughing. That's so cute. At dinner on Monday,

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Nora had a mouthful of white rice and of course, Nora is the one that thought of this. You could just see she was about to do something naughty. She somehow spewed them purposefully at Charlie.

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Oh my gosh.

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Oh, and the white rice?

I thought it was hilarious. Sticks. Yeah.

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Really funny. So that's been good.(...)

Is your child not napping?

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You're getting the real mom hugs today.

Oh my God. Okay. Yeah, we got to give an update. We got to keep on trucking. Okay.

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What are you loving?

(...) He's started speaking to me like he's a teenager, which like I don't... It's like a love hate, but it's really funny because he's two.

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And it sounds something like this. A mom.

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A dad. It's always an A.

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I mean, he's usually saying, "Mama, mama, help. Mama, help, please." Like, "Mama, mama, mama, mama, mama." But when he really wants my attention from now across the house, "Ama."

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Why is he shortening my name? I don't think he knows us aloud yet.

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Also, whenever we're hanging up the phone or saying, like I'm saying bye to Kyle, I'm like, "Oh, bye, darling. See you later, darling." Bye, darling. Oh my gosh. See you later, darling. Cute. It's really funny. It's really funny.

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Okay,

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well, it's hard.

Well, we'll get into this too, but I have a child in a full arm cast right now. And that is really hard when like they don't know to keep it dry and clean and it's summer.

Yep.

(...) Yeah. Now that it's getting colder and we're starting to need like layers in the mornings and evenings, now I'm like, "Well, thank God it didn't happen when long sleeves were necessary." Oh, that's so funny. Long sleeves were necessary.

(...) Oh.

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Uh-huh.(...) So that's been a big challenge.

That's so exciting.

Yeah. Only like 10 more days though, nine more days.

(...) Sure.

Yeah. Yeah.

How much? Fun for you.

just realizing,

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because I just have about two more months before we pop up this baby.

Wild.

(...) Yeah.

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And I'm just realizing how small Kieran is still.(...) Yeah. And when he's tired or scared or shy and he just wants to be picked up and held in public or places where I'm envisioning having a newborn in a car seat. Yeah. I'm so sad for when that's not going to be possible for him.(...) He's just so small. He's such a small person still.

(...) Definitely.

Yeah.

What's your Disney movie tonight or when you come then?(...) Because he'll for sure be scared.

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And you'll get all the cuddles.

(...) No, the dads are doing that while we're on a date.

Oh, shoot. Okay. You'll come back and get the cuddles.

I mean, I'm not worried about losing the cuddles. I'm more so just bummed because I want him to have that nurturing. Whenever and ever. Yeah, when he needs it because he's still so small. Yeah.

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Anyways. That was so hard with Charlie.

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Even now, like, because Nora, surprise, surprise. Nora's the one in the cash.

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Spoiler.

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He's like, I just feel bad that even Charlie who's four doesn't get all of it all the time. Yeah. But it's actually good for him at four years old.

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So here we are.

Here we are. Yes.

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We did. We were so excited to just soak in some more summer sun, have a little bit of relaxation. We had a lot of fun recording. You were going to go to the pullout. We had a lot of fun recording set up, which still happens.

We did still do a fair amount of recording.

But Cal, what's what's your, how did you spend your break? What's your update?

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I started it literally wiping my husband's butt.

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He couldn't do it himself.

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Yeah. He had a bike accident late, late July, probably like the day after we released an episode saying we were going on a break.

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The players knew that we needed to take one because our dog bolted in front of my husband. He was like, oh, I'm going to get a break. I'm going to get a break. And he was like, oh, I'm going to get a break. And he was like, oh, I'm going to get a break. And he went over the handlebars and he fractured one elbow and broke broke the other one. And needed surgery. Also, I'd like to say the night that this happened, we like didn't want to go to the ER because I mean, who wants to go to the ER plus they would have like sent him to a specialist.

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And I was like, I'm not experienced.(...) I was not experienced until like actual medical emergencies. So literally I like pumped him with THC drinks and ibuprofen and magnesium because his muscles were spasming.(...) And we got through the night.(...) But that night he called your husband.

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He feels so bad about this.

We didn't really know Kevin's elbows were both broken.(...) But what did he say? Along the lines of those little fish now.

No, you said Kevin stopping such a little fish.

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When Kevin called to complain about how painful his elbows were.

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Yeah, but I think he had enough adrenaline. Like we were laughing on the call. Like I was there.

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He had his THC drink. Like I don't know. Anyways. Yep. He broke both his elbows.

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So that was

so literally couldn't wipe his own. But in addition to not being able to actually extend his arms.

Yeah, he couldn't feed himself. I came back the next day because I'd like been out. I was still trying to like go on how showing. So I'd like gone to this.

Oh, yeah, you're trying to sell your house to during this time.

And Kevin didn't have his oxycodone yet.

And he was just before or after the surgery before.

So he broke his elbows. Oh my gosh. He couldn't get the surgery till Tuesday.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah. So I came home on Friday and after his appointment, he'd been home. They're just like, um, kebab skewers all around our house. He was like trying to like itch his nose.

(...)

He just like left one in every room because he couldn't get either arm up high enough to like,

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Kevin.

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Yeah. So he healed a lot faster than I thought he was going to. But let me just say like that first couple of days thinking that I was like going to be wiping three butts and feeding three humans and doing everything and be pregnant was terrifying. Yeah. We've said it before. I don't know.

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Yeah.

I mean benefit to a single mom in that situation. They would have one less adult, but to wipe.

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I mean,(...) one less adult male to feed. Frankly.

That's true. That's like not cute. I mean, it's like not cute for kids, but it's really not cute for your husband. We did get some. Yeah. Charlie. Yeah. Charlie fed him and that was actually really cute.

We got some cute pictures. The fam. The fam text thread did of Charlie feeding his father.

(...) Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

(...) So let's see that happened. And then like a week later, one of my children is having some freak like fever things happen and we can't figure it out. So if anybody has any tips, please let me know like monthly and had a seizure. And that was horrible because it's only been the second febrile seizure. So we're not like quite used to it. Nobody should really be used to that. It's just kind of awful.

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So that happens. And then Kevin has a surgery that goes fine.(...) And then two weeks after his surgery, Kevin and I are in the orthopedic specialist for his post-op. He gets his sling off. He gets some like freedom to have some range of motion. Important tidbit in the story. I see the X-rays of Kevin's arms. So like I fully see what his arm looks like now that it has had like the screws and everything. Like I see adult full arm.

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That like late afternoon Nora falls off the playground.

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And she followed jump.(...) She did fall. I will. It's she's like one that would jump, but she fell. Okay. Six or seven feet.

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That's so scary.

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I knew something was wrong with her arm

in enough time to get her to orthopedic specialist where we had just been that morning.

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I'm laughing now.

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And here's like another image for you. I can't be the one holding her down for the X-rays because I'm pregnant.

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Kevin has to be the one to hold her down. Only he's gimpy. So he's like, ow, ow, ow. Trying to hold her arm in the right positions.(...) I'm standing where the tech would normally stand so that I can be in the room, but not have the raise or whatever. So I'm seeing the images flash up on the computer.

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I am panicking because I've just seen an adult arm. The way it's supposed to look with bone growth.

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A two year old arm does not look correct at all. Like it literally just looks like there's like bone fragments floating everywhere. Really? Yeah. So I'm like, oh my gosh, she has destroyed her arm. For lights.(...) Yeah. I'm like, she has shattered from shoulder to wrist and we're going to be in surgery. And how is she not screaming right now?

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Turns out a lot of that's just still cartilage that has not ossified yet. Whoa. Two. Yeah. So like it looks like there's just floating bones everywhere and like they're sort of are. But there is, cause then there would be like little circles of bone in the middle. So it looked like a, like a bone shard, but it was like an ossification center. It's like starting to ossify. Isn't that crazy? It's kind of fascinating.(...) Yeah. But I don't know this.

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Like PA comes in or whatever and it's like, so she has two wrist fractures.

And you're like, what about the rest of the whole arm? And I was like, what about her non-existent elbow?

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And so yeah, Nora gets a full arm cast and here we are.

So you just have a fully broken family. You're just broken.

Charlie's doing pretty well.

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We'll see after when it goes downstairs. How much grass can fall over my house.

So it was a month of Kevin not being able to pick up your children, either of them

or do the dishes or

do the dishes.

Yeah. Reach for glasses for himself. I mean,

(...)

yeah.

(...) Thankfully he could most like he didn't miss much work,

is a blessing. Like, I don't know how he did that. I know he powered through because he just like didn't take the hardcore pain meds except for at night because you can't like go trade stocks on oxycodone. I don't think like I'm guessing there's like lots of that.

I could assume I would hope.

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Oh, wow.

(...)

Yeah. Yep. So there you go. There you have it. Would you like to fill us in on your?

I

mean, I got nothing compared to that update

before we move into mine though. I mean, coping skills

I talked to you a few times and I, you know, from where I was sitting was like, Oh yeah, her soul's definitely left her body.

You know, vacant, vacant at this moment. But honestly,

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not a lot of huge meltdowns or I mean, you just powered through. I'm not saying you didn't have really hard moments.

Yeah, that's just a lot.

It is a lot and I don't like my mode of coping is fully just shutting out feelings. Yeah. Which is effective.

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Like all this stuff gets done. You know what I mean? Yeah. But like, I know enough now to know that's not healthy, even though I've practiced that for a large portion of my life.

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Which I mean, that's progress that I can like look at that and know and even verbalize to Kevin, like it's

coming up sometime.

Just like where I'm at. Yeah.

yeah. So I just like didn't allow myself much.

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Much feeling and it worked.

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But now I'm like letting it back in, but it's actually not been as disastrous as I thought.

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But I think I'm also more aware, like Nora

her fingers in the minivan yesterday.

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I know. I'm like, I don't.(...) And I told Kevin when he got home, I'm like, my fight or flight is just like so heightened.

Like, oh yeah.

If I can take another adrenaline rush right now.

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Because she was fine. Somehow the fingers were fine.

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But I thought like, did she just break her hand?

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think it's good that I'm aware of these things.

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Also, yeah, I'm a little scared for like a release, but Kevin's been pretty good about like

to give me space to like he sent me to concert on the square with Charlie and my girlfriends on Wednesday.

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Oh, is that what those videos are from? Yeah, so cute.

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Yeah. It like things like that really getting me through.

He like planned for you and I to have a weekend. Yeah. This weekend that I can have some adult time. Yeah.

He's been really trying. Like he's been a trooper as much as he's able to be a trooper.

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But I think a coping skill that I need to maintain is that I gave myself breaks during the day, which I didn't really used to do. Like now was my work time for

Yeah. And I have flown through romantic series.

(...)

Oh, which one?

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The Sarah Moss one that doesn't. Which one is it?(...) Like the young adult one.(...) Oh, nice. But it starts young adult and I think it transitions to not. I would hope for what I'm reading really good. I'll think of the title. We can post it.

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But like I gave him, I mean, I probably read an hour a day.

Wow.

(...) Yeah. In the middle of the day.

That's crazy.

Yeah. I just said for you this time because I know I won't get a break at night. Like by the time I get the kids to bed, I get the kitchen clean. Like I get dinner. Like it's nine 30 at night. Yeah. But that was so good for my psyche for the rest of the day. Like I honestly didn't have the super like mom rage that I normally have come for 35 PM.

So I'm trying to maintain that a little bit, not like an hour, but at least like 20, 30 minutes of quiet, just like fun reading time or something like that in the middle of the day. And it makes me a way nicer mom.

(...) Nice. Okay. Yeah. Snaps for Cali on that.

Snaps for Cali. That's huge. That's big personal growth.

Yeah.

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I wasn't able to like journal in the morning. Like

I just like had to shut down that much,(...)

which is like a little frightening, but also our life was chaotic.

Yeah. You don't want to feel any part of that. I couldn't. Yeah.

But like some escapism for now, we're putting my feet up because also I'm pregnant. Like,

really good.

Thank you.

Snapping into the mic.

Thank you.

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There you go.

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Callie's update. I got nothing to top that honestly.

(...) No, no, but she did have a little pregnancy update.

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Oh yeah. So I'm all prepped for my V back.

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Right. And I had a cesarean last time. I'm all right. I'm like, I don't want that kind of recovery again or lack thereof for awhile. I'd way rather do it. The vagina way. Um, so I've been really working towards that and I failed my glucose tests. So I officially have gestational diabetes.

Do you hate that when you say like you failed your glucose? Like, does that feel like you did something wrong when you say you failed your glucose test?

No. Oh, that's how I would. I mean, when you, like if I, if I examine how I feel about my body that I guess failed the test, there's a little bit of betrayal and anger and what the fish.

I hadn't really, you know, put that on myself, Cal.

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Thanks.

I'm going to edit that out of the conversation. You won't remember either.

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Oh my gosh. So I'm curious from all the listeners,

if you've had gestational diabetes before or you know, people who did how they combat it effectively naturally.(...) Hmm. Cause I'm just going to be starting to track with the like finger pokes four times a day for the next week or two.(...) I'm just going to start that, which will give us some more data to work with. But

for those who don't know, gestational diabetes is it's when it's well, it's because you're placenta during pregnancy produces a bunch of hormones that intentionally tell your body to resist insulin more aggressively because they want to keep the glucose in your blood to feel the growth of the baby.

Greedy baby. Greedy baby. Yeah.

So then

a mom's pancreas will make extra insulin to overcome the resistance, but sometimes the pancreas can't keep up. So maybe you just have a weak pancreas.

Who knows?

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It's just so weird.

It is, but we do want to watch it because I had preeclampsia last time and this can help. This can increase your risk of preeclampsia.

So now we're looking at, I mean, I wanted an unmedicated natural feedback if possible.

And now

looking at probably induction.

Haven't really called it on that one, but seems like the likely smart choice.

So I'm just kind of sitting with that.(...) Yeah. Birth is likely not going to be going the way that I wanted for this next one.

(...)

Although hard to have a worse, I shouldn't say worse, but more intense birth than you already had. So like maybe an induction will be like, bring me a cocktail. Yeah.

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I think so. I saw a different midwife the week

before I filmed my glucose tests and found out I had gestational diabetes. So I was already having interesting conversations about her that were kind of shifting my mindset around natural or unmedicated birth versus medicated. And you and I have talked about the concept of being a crunchy mom or a silky mom or a scrunchy mom.

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And I didn't really realize until that conversation that

think we often think of birth in binaries. There are those who are like, yeah, give me the epidural. Who cares? There are a lot of women who

a C-section once and then just assume that that's what they're going to have for all their other pregnancies, even if there's no medical reason to do so. I mean, a bunch of people who don't know me well, most of them, when they've heard I've had one C-section and they know I'm pregnant again, they're like, oh, so when are you scheduling your second?

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And look at me weird when I say, well, I'm actually trying to have a V-back. Like why? I don't want.(...) So there's still that

common

try to have a V-back.

I just think it depends on your circles. Sure.

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So I don't know if you're a mom, you're going to be a new mom if you haven't had kids yet or I don't know, you didn't have the birth that you wanted.

I'm trying to walk away with what's empowering for me out of this situation.

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And

didn't realize that I had created a binary in terms of medicated versus unmedicated or natural birth in my mind. And there's absolutely a middle ground.

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Just because you get induced doesn't mean that you're going to go down this cascade of interventions and lead to a C-section.

There's a middle ground.

People will tell you you will.

Yeah. People who are...

Really crunchy people will for sure tell you that you absolutely will.

Right. You're going to be pressured into all these medications and all these things if you go to the hospital.

And that was not my experience with Curen. I had the most medicated birth

possible, highest intervention possible.

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And I felt that the team was super respectful for all 54 hours we were in there.

They were definitely

trying to be respectful of our birth plan. I also know that we have a pretty exceptional

delivery unit.

(...)

Labor and delivery line?

Yeah. Wherever,

Obstetrics. Midwifery department. I don't know. You would have died.

(...)

I mean, you would have died.

(...)

Well, so, okay. Yeah. Let me circle it back. This was the interesting... This is the thing that kind of flipped my brain. So this midwife brought up induction as an option

the second baby before we knew about the gestational diabetes because she was looking at all the factors that happened in my delivery with Curen.

And she was saying, actually,

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induction can be a really good option if V-Bac's your ultimate goal because it could move you closer to the V-Bac.

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Spontaneous labor is always best in terms of having a successful V-Bac or vaginal birth after cesarean, which I should have said

the beginning for those who don't know what that term is.

she pulled up a few studies,

which if anyone's curious about those, you can message us, email us or Instagram us, and we will... I can send those to you that had all kinds of data on

What the benefits of induction were right at 39 weeks for women.

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So she said, if we induce you right at 39 weeks, we know that the baby's brain development(...) is done. Basically, there's not a lot of medical reason for the baby to stay inside you.

They're just going to keep gaining weight. And after 39 weeks, your placenta actually starts to weaken. And so there's more risk for the baby to stay in than benefit, actually.

(...)

And so that was new information for me because

are a lot of people in the midwife circle who will say,

can go in at 42, 43 weeks. Some women just have a longer gestational period.(...) As long as you're healthy,(...) why are all these traditionally trained doctors trying to mess with your body?" It's kind of the narrative that I've been consuming.

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had said to her, "Okay, I hear you.

(...)

I don't want to, in 20 years, read another study that says, "Oh, we found all these incredible benefits for actually going into labor naturally." And this is why it's helpful for babies to stay in after 39 weeks.

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My instinct is to go more on,(...) "Well, we've done this for thousands of years. There must be a reason that our bodies are built to do this this way."

"Our body is rebelling, I guess."

(...) Every time. Every time.

(...)

Anyways, she kind of wrecked my brain because she said, "I hear you, and that's always the place that I start at."

But she said- She's a midwife. She's a midwife. She's a nurse midwife. She's a nurse midwife. She's... Yes.

But her counter argument to that was,(...) "Okay, but also natural selection is a thing."

And if we just look at the numbers

on natural selection without medical intervention,(...) women could be dying 25%

(...)

higher during labor delivery.

(...)

And when if we look at mortality rates for children,

(...)

not even reaching the age of 10, I mean, it was like 50%

on where you lived during which century, before we had readily available medicine.

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Women were having 10 children to see five live to adulthood regularly.

(...)

So anyways, that flipped kind of my view on

own empowerment, I think,

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in terms of

this mantra that I've been repeating to myself, which is, "Your body was built for this. You were made to do this.

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You can have a V-BAC if you want.(...) Just prepare and go for that unmedicated birth." And I'm not saying I'm not going to do that. However, 50 or 70 years ago, I likely would not have made it through children's birth.

So I already am a statistic.

So maybe it's good to weigh all the options.

(...)

And so I think I'm leaving behind some of those

or thought patterns that I've been honestly leading pretty heavily on throughout this pregnancy.

Really having a glow up in your scrunchy era.(...) I know.

(...)

At this point, I'm like, if I get an induction, just give me the fricking epidural. If it gets it out, I don't even care. I mean, that's me waking up this morning. That's not me in real life as a whole.

That

is one thing that I've consistently heard is pitocin is just not really something that

want to try to power through necessarily.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had enough of that. I had enough of that last time. Anyways,

I'm really curious what other listeners think about this because I know

experience was really polarized when I was preparing for Kieran's birth in terms of this is how we do a natural birth.

(...)

And then there's all this talk around if you have to have some interventions, you didn't fail.

(...)

And I'm like, okay, get out of here. Why are we even introducing failure to this?

(...)

If you need it, you need it.

Yeah.

that's not too much of a deep dive rabbit hole on my mental crisis. So I mean, hopefully that's empowering for women who are like, I feel empowered having this shift. I feel like I have more knowledge. I have expanded perspective and it's definitely changed my expectations for the end result I was hoping for.

Well, it doesn't even sound like a crisis, which is kind of amazing. It just sounds like you're taking the information and again, it's not what you planned, but isn't that motherhood?

Yeah.

Being finished, you have a great midwife that you really trust and that's huge. And that's not always the case with people, unfortunately, in Kier providers. But like if you can find someone that you really trust,(...) birth is just wild.(...) Mattressen's motherhood is wild.

(...)

never really know. So how do we grow from it?

Yeah.

(...)

Because this is like, this is personal growth on both of our ends.

Oh yeah. Like the months we've had. And I know you're like downplaying your diagnosis after all of my stuff, but it's still like a really big deal that you have to work through.

(...)

I can't tell if it is or not. I think I need to get through my data tracking weeks of blood tests to know.

(...)

I'm like, how annoying is this going to be?(...) Am I going to be on medication that I hate? Am I just going to be changing my diet and track? I mean, it's just frankly very annoying to me at this point.

I will say this I think is a positive

I do in everything try and

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flip things and think about, okay, well, how is life happening for me, not to me? Like how is this situation happening for me?

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And it got my ass in gear and I've been getting up earlier just to journal and have some time in bed and just get my mindset reframed before I wake up and have the whole day with my toddler.

And I've seen moms doing this and I most, so many of the guests that we've had on this show journaling. It shows up every time.

It's like very different women.

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It's like, yes.

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And I'm a big, I mean, I've journaled really consistently over the years, actually. I just had let it go when Kieran was born.

But I've been journaling again and it has completely changed my week.

Completely changed my week. I'm doing my gratitudes.

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I'm doing like intentional mindset reframe.

Kyle even noticed today. He said something because he's having a tough time right now and I'm just really trying to generate the positive, intentional direction of our thoughts and actions. And so that's my big update.

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I think journaling has actually had the biggest impact on my week, despite the beat is.

The beat is.

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This is a great transition into September for us. I mean, we're not quite there yet, but it's coming and like the mornings are getting chillier.

I love that. Like cozy up.(...) We've been sleeping with the window open.

Oh, we've been sleeping with a window fan. So I think our bedroom is 45 degrees.

A window fan? That seems like overkill. Why? Why are you doing that?

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You and Kyle. Ewie, ewie, ewie. No, no, no. I need to be cozy. Are you kidding me? Oh, it's so cozy in my blank. He is. No, you I want crisp. I want crisp so I can be cozy. But if it's cold to like

freezing in the morning.

I hate that.

Oh, I love. Oh my God. Another con of your husband breaking his arms.

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Snuggling game.

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I'm like one arm. Well, I mean, it doesn't help that I have my snuggle pregnancy pillow. Between that is arms. It's like, you know, our fingertips are touching to get more.

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Kyle last night I got into bed. He just had a long day and he was like, can we spoon a little bit? And I was like, I'm so sorry. My hips hurt. So I just, I need my second husband at night. I'm so sorry. You're like, oh, you don't always have your second husband.

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No, I always have it in there, but I was like, I'm not even sick. Like as soon as I lay down,

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it's my second husband. Like I can't just like write in that thing. Yeah.

Yeah. I guess it's your one. You're no one.

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Right. When Kevin had his arm situation,(...) it was fresh. Weren't you the one? It was like, yeah, what? We're not having sex now. Like forever ever again. And Kyle and I were kind, I were like, I don't, this, I'm not understanding this. Like, do you need elbows for, like, what kind of sex do you do?

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Oh

it was more of that.

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I think we straight-up roasted you like okay like way to have absolutely zero. Do you even need creativity to combat that? I'm like really confused but okay this makes more sense now.

I really think your elbows are a lot more crucial than you think.

Oh man well this wasn't on this wasn't on our epi notes but um.

This isn't how our episodes are probably gonna look for this foreseeable future.

No which I'm actually I'm really excited about.(...) Really fun guests. I loved Kate last week that was so fun. Really great to reconnect with her.

just loved all her perspectives so she was phenomenal we're gonna continue with some matressants chronicling but also just some really badass women so we're excited to share all those interviews with y'all. We're also going to be doing a mini series this fall which is gonna be very fun and we're gonna have a bunch of

journal prompts and opportunities for you to to work through. It's our journaling era to work through and learn with us. Yeah so I feel great we've

been stockpiling some of these conversations that I'm like I just feel like we need to like

get them into the world. It's weird they're not out there but I'm excited.

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Um also as we're booking out guests if you have topics that you are not satisfied with the information that you're finding on them

or guests that you'd really love us to interview please let us know.

(...) Sex is that out of all of it.

We got two mat leaves coming up so we're in our recording heavy season.

(...) Yes yes or like just really amazing women that we should hear their story even if they're you know air quotes every day.

That's our brand that's what we do. Yes yes yeah anyways.

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Thanks guys we missed you.

(...) All good vibes from here forward.(...) It's gonna be a fall of sweaters and apple cider and no injuries at the overall household so.

And a new baby from Lily.

(...) Yes good stuff.

okay love you. Love you bye.

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