Gabbing in Grapeview

Episode 3 - UAPs, Telepathy Tapes, and Chinooks

Claire and Suzie

Okay.

Suzie:

Hey guys. Welcome to Gabbing in Grape View, the podcast for anyone who wants to appreciate the good and lighting up your day. I'm Suzy. And I'm Claire. And we have a passion for heartwarming stories today. We're going to chat about what's happened the past week. We're gonna try to keep it light, and then we're also going to chat about more on historical. Great view, great view, Washington.

Claire:

I love it. I love it. So what have you been up to, Suzy? What's going on?

Suzie:

Well, you know, the week has been. Something with the news That's so I'm gonna say is the news. Yeah. But I've been listening to my podcast that I really liked, was kind of inspiring for me, smartless in this past week. The one I listened to, I thought it was unidentified flying Objects, but it's really UAP and that is what's it called? Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. So those are UFOs, unidentified,

Claire:

anomalous phenomena. Yes. So sci-fi well, but not really fiy anymore. No. And there it's science

Suzie:

nonfiction people. And I think I know and things are going to come out. After listening to the director I think his name was Mark Mney. Okay. McInerney.

Claire:

McInerney, mark.

Suzie:

Yes. So, he testified in front of Congress. I'm pretty sure that's the one. Okay. But they're, they have, they have all kinds of documents and firsthand knowledge and videos and. It's under the umbrella of nasa. So I, I don't even know, is NASA even around now? I'm not sure.

Claire:

I think they're still around, although I did hear of an astronaut getting kind of criticized by Oh, the trait.

Suzie:

Yes. Mark Kelly.

Claire:

Yeah. I love Mark Kelly. He's the best. I love his wife. Yep. She's the best. Absolutely. His brother also did, you know, he's a twin. Yes. And he has a, an an Is the brother an astronaut too? I think so. I think so. I think in the military, yeah. Yeah.

Suzie:

Arizona. Yep.

Claire:

Yep. They're,

Suzie:

they're heroes.

Claire:

Heroes. I love it. I love that. We're talking about kind of like this mystical or mystery or Yes. Other worldly kind of phenomena or. Topics because it's part of Pisces season is to get kinda dreamy and lose touch with reality on doing air quotes. That's right. So I love that we're gonna talk about that during Pisces season. Yeah, it makes me super happy.

Suzie:

Well, part of this U-F-O-U-A-P-U-A-P thank you is the idea that more will be, more information will be shared. With the American people like. Three to five years. Within three to five years, we will know more. And there's also something on 60 minutes this week about it. Ooh, tune into 60 Minutes. I love that program. And there was or still is a Netflix show on all these. UAPs with proof and you've got the host of the documentary and going to different places and people giving him videos, but he has firsthand account of these people being affected by it. So, that was really interesting. I love it. You think, you think they're gonna be on land? Oh, no, they're under the water, I think.

Claire:

I think so. Like Atlantis or, what was the movie? The Abyss? Yes. I love that movie. Exactly. I know I do.

Suzie:

Okay. What else you got in the mystical world? Well, speaking of

Claire:

other worldly topics, I've been listening to the telepathy tapes. It's a podcast. They're in their second season now, so you can kind of binge listen to a lot of information. The first one's called the telepathy tapes and the season two is called Talk Tracks, and so they're a little bit different. But this reporter Kai Dickens she is out there kind of un bunking. Debunking. Debunking. Thank you. That's okay. Maybe we can cut that out. No, I will leave all of my mistakes in the podcast'cause I am a human being. People. So there's a group of people, children who are nons speakers. In the world at large, nonverbal, non, yeah, nonverbal speakers. Okay. They call them spellers also because they use uh, like a tablet to type communication board or communication board to type. So, there's a lot of I would say. What's the word I'm looking for? Pushback that this is not something that can be taught to children because they think that you need to ha that if you're assisting them in typing, like holding up their elbow, that you're guiding them in the letters that they're choosing. So skeptics, there's some, there's lots of skeptics. The, I think the, uh, I can't remember what it's called now, but, um. It's like an acronym, A VAA or something like that. But it is like the National Association of Speech Therapists kind of thing. And they basically say that this is not a tool that is accepted for students to learn this way. Wow. It's crazy. So basically this podcast goes through and tells you that these. Children. And I think adults, when they become adults are telepathically communicating or so they think. But as you listen to the whole podcast, it kind of becomes clear that there's this vibration or realm or whatever that is. Consciousness.

Suzie:

Is it like a collective subconscious? No, it's. It's just consciousness.

Claire:

Okay. It's

Suzie:

just

Claire:

like, and it, it starts with like God or source consciousness, and then they're able to connect there on that level and then communicate. Like instantly through thought. And these children know languages that no one has ever taught them. They know math that no one has ever taught them. They know music that no one has ever taught them. Wow. They know all these things that no one has ever taught them, but yet they're not able to communicate that they can do these things. Okay. Until they have these, a weight, an outlet, an outlet, someone says, here, try this. Let me hold your arm for a while. Because a lot of the problem with people, uh, these children is that they don't understand that they're in a body and they don't have the same body. Abilities that quote unquote healthy people. Mm-hmm. Or normal people. I'm not saying these people are, these children are unhealthy or not normal, let's be clear. But they don't move their body. They're not, they don't have access to their body in the same way because of the way their brain works. So the person who is assisting them in the speaking or in the spelling. They have to push on their body in some way to be like, Hey, listen, you have a body and here it is, and can you feel this pressure? Mm-hmm. They're not actually moving the arm or the finger to do the work. The per the child or the person doing the spelling is doing that, and after they learn how to do it, they can oftentimes do it on their own without any assistance at all. But because of that assistance needed at first, for most, it's like a skeptic's dream, right? Like they're just looking for, oh, they're doing it for them and they're not really reading your mind and all the, but there's all this evidence and it's we're like around the world that this is happening.

Suzie:

That's interesting,

Claire:

so I highly recommend it. Telepathy tapes, Kai Dickens. And then the talk tapes is at, is the second season fun?

Suzie:

Yeah. So that's what your past week, you were kind of, I was listening. Distracted

Claire:

by that. Distracted by that. I've been doing some work on the retreat that's coming up in May. I'm host co-hosting at the Hideaway. So getting that organized. And then just doing my Airbnb thing. Yeah, doing the hosting thing. Good. I take the days off when I can take the days off because it can get wild and crazy when I have to work. So yes. Been kind of chilling. Yeah. Watching a lot of Fringe. Fringe, yeah. Is that a, a show from the early two thousands? I would say. Really? And it's Joshua Jackson? No. Do you know that? No. Dawson's Creek? No. Pacey? No, no.

Suzie:

We've just finished. Uh, or what did we, we finished Ozark for the second time. Oh, okay. That was really great. And then what was another one? Oh, the old man. But we like Sheridan, Taylor, we the old man.

Claire:

Have you seen the man on the Inside? Yes. Loved. Oh, Ted Danson. We love you. Ted Danson. Yes.

Suzie:

Yeah. It was very compassionate, very heartwarming. It was done with love. Yeah. Total. Really cool, cool show. Yeah. And there's a huge population of older people that are really with it. Oh yeah. That David's

Claire:

dad is 90. Two this year? Yes. 91. 91, I think. 91. And he is still editing David's puzzles. For him,

Suzie:

for my mom, 87. She was really with it verbally and, but her, her thinking cognition, but her body just couldn't, couldn't hang with the brain.

Claire:

I think that happens a lot when you get older where it's one or the other.

Suzie:

Yeah.

Claire:

Well, your body is healthy and your brain isn't, or your body is unhealthy and your brain is

Suzie:

yes. Well, let's go to some happy news. Happy news because I have some, a surprise for you. Oh, I haven't told you about it. I'm excited. This is from, Sue Young and Rick Plum. Okay, now this couple. Rick has lived here since the seventies in grape view. In grape view, and his wife Sue Young lived in union as, I don't know how far back, but they're married now and live right off grape. Great view Loop Road. So I taught with Sue in Lacey in my building in Chambers Prairie Elementary. Wow. For North Thurston Public school. She was the child psychologist.

Claire:

Oh. She would like the telepathy tapes probably. Oh yeah. That's her jam. I

Suzie:

bet she would.

Claire:

She'll, she probably has already listened to it. She,

Suzie:

well she listens to us. Oh, great. Which, hi, Sue. Hi Sue. Hey Rick. Hey Rick. So, she texts me. And said, Hey, I got, are you interested in this book? Great View, the Detroit of the West, a narrative history of the early years, 1872 to 1923 by Mary Sagerson and Dwayne Robinson. Oh my goodness. At this, we'll, the first, yeah, first part of the book. Uh, in the, the eighties, late eighties. You have 1880s. Yes. So you have, we 1872. I like it. So think about these people from New York, Chicago, taking the train to Tacoma, getting off and getting a boat, a skiff, and going to Puget Sound and finding the shores of Grape view off of Case Inlet. I think it's Case Inlet. Yep, you got it. Okay, so you've got these, these people that find Stretch Island. We've got Lambert. Evans, and then we have a guy named Anderson. And then we have Charlie Gould. Now Charlie Gould for me I mean they're all interesting, but Charlie Gould arrived in the 1890s in his, he was in his thirties from New York State and his wife. His wife died. He had a young wife who died, but he had a friend named Adam Eckert. Oh yeah. And he kept writing to Eckert, you, you can't believe. And Adam is, Adam Eckard is in New York, New York State. Oh. And he, and, uh, Gould is writing. Charlie Gould is writing. You can't believe how beautiful it is here. It's abundant in fruit, in nature, in harvest, your whatever you wanna plant. So he went on and on about that. So Eckert finally came based on his friends. Gould's recommendation and glowing letters. And he came in the month of October, the best month. Oh, that is the best month. People to lush gardens and, and fruit trees and abundance. And he took a train from New York to Tacoma and then he, he got a boat. So then here he is in Stretch Island and then his family comes and his wife just loved him. Wasn't too keen on it, but came anyway. And her name is Sarah Eckert. Okay. So with all this, they, they have this fruit in abundance and then they. They have six kids, but six kids. Mm-hmm. Totally normal back then, but just Yes. Oof. That

Claire:

blows my mind every time I hear anything like that.

Suzie:

Gersons, Mary Sagerson was here. One of the authors? Yes. Okay. But, and of course she was here after the Goulds, but Gersons had the, a fruit company, a fruit leather company. Did you know that? No. So they, they set up shop at Eckerson building on Stretch Island. I think it's still there. It's a 100 years, over a hundred years old. Huge log cabin. So, Adam. Is his name Adam Eckert. Yep. Yeah. He told his wife, if you hang out for two years, I will build you a mansion. And he did. It was huge. Like 10 bed, 10 bedrooms. It was Oh my goodness. Big. Yeah. So, they. Started a fruit leather company. Sagerson did, but they set up shop at Eckert's building on Stretch Island. There's Eckert's Vineyards and they have made, could have made the fruit for the fruit leather. But look what Sue sent for me. Oh my gosh. It's black forest, stretch island fruit strips. Wow. People look at this. You can't see it. It's, I can. It's all, we don't do video yet. No, but it's all, oh my gosh. Zero sugar added. You can buy fruit, stretch island fruit strips on Amazon

Claire:

and Costco. Go to Costco, get some black forest. Stretch island fruit strips. They're awesome. So amazing. They're amazing. I dunno if you want take

Suzie:

some,

Claire:

I wanna try one. This is from, from to make sure there's no grapes in here though. Oh, okay. But yes, I have a grape intolerance people, it's really bad. It's a whole thing. It doesn't say fruit juice, so I think I could try one. Alright. Be careful. I

Suzie:

will try the cherry. So I did a little investigation with this one and the fruit company is Ferrara Fruit Company. Okay. So they do have a, a Facebook page. Oh, this is so

Claire:

awesome.

Suzie:

But it it, the Facebook page last post was December 28th, 2018. Oh, they're not active. So the Sager sins we're assuming had this. Fruit strips company and Rick used to make the fruit strips in the seventies and then they moved it to another place out of the Great View area. I'm not sure where. But then Nestle bought it? Yeah. Wow. Nestle bought it. Now it says that it's

Claire:

manufactured in Chicago.

Suzie:

Yes, the Ferrara. Fruit company. Actually it's a candy company that bought it. Yeah. So Ferrara bought it from Nestle for, bought Nestle for 2.8 billion. The company Ferrara has four manufacturing plants, two in the US and two in Mexico. But they do candy. So you're gonna see all kinds of,

Claire:

you, are you Googling? I'm gonna Google Ferrara. Ferrara just because I'm curious. I used to live in Chicago. Did we talk about that? Yes. And uh, the zip code is 6 0 6 0 7, which was my zip code when I went to UIC. So I'm like, did I walk by this plant? It's UIC is the CHOC University University of Illinois. At Chicago. At Chicago.

Suzie:

Okay. So while you research, I will tell you the brands that Ferrara Manufacturers Atomic. Fireball. Ooh, that's a good one. Yep. Boston Baked Beans, bottle caps, Brocks chuckles, fond Dip, jelly Belly jelly fruits, Laffy Taffy, red Hots, runts Sweet Tarts. There's more. Wow. But they're still making stretch island fruit strips. I. Love that.

Claire:

That's from Sue and Rick. That is fantastic. Yes. Thank you, Sue and Rick. This is so exciting. I am gonna go to Costco and buy a bunch of these and I'm gonna start leaving these at the Airbnb through my guests. Yes. Great. Because I think they would like to know that they got a little fruit strip from. Our local fruit. There you go. And I love supporting Costco. I don't,'cause

Suzie:

they are a wonderful company. They are. I wholeheartedly support Costco now. I don't know if it's Stretch Island Fruit. They kept the name Stretch Island and probably the recipe. Oh,

Claire:

because this

Suzie:

is a big company.

Claire:

Got it.

Suzie:

Yes.

Claire:

Well, we'll just say something like.

Suzie:

We love you

Claire:

from Stretch Island.

Suzie:

Yes. Yes, you can. You'll figure it out with

Claire:

history in grape view.

Suzie:

I don't know. The fruit. The fruit leather. The fruit leather fruit strips from down the road. Oh my gosh. Isn't that gray? I love it. Yes.

Claire:

So do we know if there are fruit farms producing anything but grapes out on Stretch Island currently? Not on a

Suzie:

i I might be farm. Like, like a personal Oh yeah.

Claire:

Yeah. There's nothing out there now. No.

Suzie:

But there's some beautiful vineyards that are going up, beautiful homes with. Vineyards on them. Yeah. So we'll do some research on that. Like that one at the very end of the road. Oh, if you take a left. Yep.

Claire:

Yep. Beautiful.

Suzie:

I do. We may knock on their door,

Claire:

we'll be like, we're doing a podcast. Can we interview you?

Suzie:

So

Claire:

we're not weird at all.

Suzie:

We gotta get better at this. And then maybe they, they won't be scared.

Claire:

Maybe they

Suzie:

listen.

Claire:

Hey, can we come to your house? Oh

Suzie:

yeah. So, in talking to Sue and Rick, she said there's still a group that get together, like a great view community town hall. Yes. I've

Claire:

seen them gathering at the community center.

Suzie:

Yes. So there's some really interesting people that we could interview, like. Okana.

Claire:

Oh, yes. David met them.

Suzie:

Yes. So, and Fred knows, I think it's Janice, but there's more. Yeah. And I said, Sue, you know, it'd be great if we set up microphones and they could tell stories like StoryCorp. Oh, I love it. Great View Island. Story or great few stories. Yeah, yeah. When you were little, when you were old, what do you know? What's your story being here? So

Claire:

I have a story that I don't think I shared yet, but my Pilates instructor, Kelly, she grew up in Tacoma and they had like a weekend house on Stretch Island. It and it, yeah. And she used to walk her little child. This to the little corner store that is now a warehouse for shipping or whatever they're doing there. Mm-hmm. The little gas station there. Yep. And they would sit and have ice cream and she was talking about how the wood floor had like worn down where people would come in and go around the aisles and stuff and how it was just like this. Core memory of her childhood going to that store. I know. And it's just, I love hearing those things.'cause when I drive by this place that's now a very active storage facility, I'm not. Right. I think they're shipping out school supplies is what I heard at one point. They are. And I think it's an upholstery shop. The one next to it. Yeah. Oh, okay. That's different. Oh. Or I don't know if the upholstery shop stores things in there too. I have no idea. I think they should make a pub. I think they need to bring back ice cream

Suzie:

corner store cream. I do too. We've talked about it. Come on. I

Claire:

want, on our Friday nights, I would go and make sandwiches there. They could hire me. I would go there one day a week, but I don't wanna run it'cause I need to go on vacation. Oh. I wouldn't run it, but I would, I don't want small business

Suzie:

people. I, I'll buy and I'll sit out front. Yes.

Claire:

But what a

Suzie:

great memory. Yeah.

Claire:

Yeah. Really great. Just a little active, great view community, you know. Doing their thing. They need it. They need that.

Suzie:

Yeah. They, they do. Yeah. We all do. Yes. We need community a lot right now. We do. Especially now. Yeah, I think so.

Claire:

Well, well, I didn't find out if the fur candy company it is in Chicago. If there where or there. Manufacturing facility, oh, is right where I would walk by. Okay. But I do know that Chicago is home to a few candy companies. This is off base for history and grape view. So if you wanna like smell chocolate while you're walking around the city, Chicago is a great destination. If you want to see beautiful vineyards and cool homes on islands, then come out to great view. It's so quiet here. It's so quiet. Although I did hear a big boom from the base. Oh wow. What's it called? Fort L Joint Base. Louis McCord. Yep. That guy. Okay. JBML or something. Yep. Yep. Yeah. I heard a big boom today. I was like, what was that?

Suzie:

Oh, it's just the base. They do and the news will tell you they have maneuvers. They'll be new. I lived on Fort Lewis. Did you? I did on Dallas Street growing up. Whoa. Yep. My dad just got back from Vietnam and then he was in Fort Chuca and then we ended up in in Fort. Yep. Yeah. Wow. I have great memories. I bet. Yeah. Helicopters, jeeps going up that hill. Is that where you get your heli love of helicopters from? Yes. Yes. Okay. I love that. Is making a lot of sense. I love military helicopters. I wish I was brave enough to. Feel like I could fly helicopters outta high school. Oh, I would've done it. But it wasn't a thing in the seventies. No, it wasn't. I, I, I tell, I do tell my nieces, yes, please just think about being a pilot. You'd be a helicopter pilot. Drones are big now, so I don't know if I don't, do they have peaceful drones anyway? I mean, you

Claire:

could do like a wedding and. Film with a drone.

Suzie:

I know. I'm trying to think of happy things. No, I'm talking about the Big Mac

Claire:

daddy. Oh, okay. I'm sure there's some kind of thing you'd have to work for a different country though, I think. Yeah. Oops. Dropped that one. Sorry.

Suzie:

Oh. So I do love Apaches and I love Chinooks. Yeah. And oh, she's real cute when

Claire:

one comes

Suzie:

by. I know. I think they see me. It's, it's pretty amazing. I'm gonna have to

Claire:

get it on video at some point and put it somewhere on social media so everyone can see you being adorable.

Suzie:

But they do go around and around because I have that radar. On my phone. What is that flight radar? Yeah. And they, they think I'm crazy people. I'm like, no. They see me look, they're going around the house. They could see me. And then I'll take a screenshot of it and I'll send it to the boys and say, oh yeah, they see me look. I go around and they'll go, that's awesome, mom. They love you and Sean. I know, but the other one will say, mm, mom, that's, that's. That's not normal, I said, but they see me and I love them.

Claire:

The other day I was cleaning the hot tub at the Hideaway, at the Airbnb, and one came really low. Like I think I could have seen the pilot picking his nose if he was picking his nose. Mm-hmm. And actually I, it only if the. A helicopter was also transparent because I really just saw the bottom of it, but it was so close. And I was like, what are you doing so close here? And he did not fly back. Oh. But he was sad. I wasn't just in the hot tub, I think.

Suzie:

Oh well.

Claire:

Yeah.'cause

Suzie:

the neighbor goes in the hot tub and flashes them. Sure. In the old house. My old house in Olympia. I know they saw me because they train and they go very low over the house, over the Capitol Forest. Then they would loop around and their very last day, all of them went in one line, a single line. There were probably four and it was like Apocalypse Now. And they came and they went really low and they did a sharp left. And I went, I love you. Like I. I mean, they were probably laughing so hard. This crazy lady in the driveway, they love it. They, they came really low, but they lined up and it was real intentional. Yeah. And then sometimes they would open the door and go low. So when I moved, I was sad. I was like, I'll never,

Claire:

they come by here. Yeah. I'm trying to, I've seen him when I've been out gardening or. Doing lawn maintenance or whatever, and I always tell'em she's over there. I know

Suzie:

one time when I was teaching, and I don't know if Sue Young would remember this, but recess. And we were a military school, so some of the kids, their dads may have been a pilot or a staff or crew member, navigator, whatever, on the big one, like a Chinook recess is done, kids are behind me. Chinook goes fairly low and I'm waving, Hey, hey. And one of the teachers, Shelly says, Suzanne, they cannot see you that far up. I'm like, no, they really can. Just at that moment, the Chinook turns around, comes super, super low, opens the door, and you could see the guys on the inside waving, waving, I'm waving, going totally ape. Then all the kids out in recess went. The same. They went crazy. Oh. And Shelly was like, oh my God. I said, I know it was So, I always think, think they, I bet those kids

Claire:

still remember that. I hope

Suzie:

so.

Claire:

Yeah. I hope

Suzie:

so. Anyway, I love

Claire:

that. Anything that brings you joy, you just run with it. Mine is not, and don't have any kind of embarrassment or shame around it because it's what you brings you joy.

Suzie:

Yes. Yeah. Okay. So. Eh, do you learn anything this week?

Claire:

Well, I learned a lot listening to that telepathy tape situation. So pick one.

Suzie:

What's one? And I learned a

Claire:

lot by reading the news about where we are as a society in a country. Okay. I'm

Suzie:

talking, you know, happy, happy, happy, happy. Joy. Joy. I have a happy, happy. Joy. Joy. So my car. It's, you know, 2016, and I enjoy my car. I keep it up on maintenance. I'll drive it until I can't. But the window would, one side, I could hit the down window, toggle down, and it would go down with one tap. Pull it up. It would go up with one tap. Yeah. And it would sweep up the my driver's side. What did I do? I thought it was broken. I'd have to. Toggle down once every time I wanted to go down, push it down, hold it for it to swipe down. Like, yeah, I was bummed. Now I gotta pay for this. This is gonna going to be expensive. It's electrical. Yeah. Oh. And I told Fred, I said, oh, it's not working, Fred it. He said, oh no. When it's down, you just have to tap it twice. Pull it up twice real quick and then it will give a code that it wants to sweep up or sweep down. Sure enough. Oh, windows fixed, Fred. I know. He's so smart. I know. I love

Claire:

that guy. So I was happy with that. That's my learning. Oh, I love it. David had a similar situation with his truck. The window was stuck open. He couldn't figure out how to close it. He was trying to pull it, pull it, pull it. So Mike Fred's son was over at the Hideaway one day with David, and David's like, come over here and look at this. See, let's see if we can fix this together. Mike goes in this truck and he's like, well, this is just a button. You just push this and it'll close. David had. Unbeknownst to him, accidentally pushed that button or the dog hat or something, and he didn't even know there was a button, so he just. Thankful for the price Men out there fixing all of our windows for us.

Suzie:

Yeah, but was it like a window lock

Claire:

button? No, it was literally like a button to open the back window because in a truck, you know, you've got that like back window that faces the cab. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that guy. Oh my God. Okay, good. So what you learn, but I, um, I'm trying to think of something I learned. Uh, I learned that I am not sick and I just have allergies. Yes, it's allergy season people. Okay. Take your Claritin, Monte, Lucas, whatever you take. Yes. Nasal spray. Yeah. Benadryl. All those things help. Excellent.

Suzie:

So I think anything else we're gonna add to this?

Claire:

Um, I don't know if you have anything that you wanna comment on or that you're interested in us talking about or guest or if you wanna come on to the show and be a guest. We're looking at you, Sue and Rick. Give us a shout over at our email. It's hello at gabbing in grape view.com, and you can also find us on our website and fill out a little. Jot form thing on there, and that is www gabbing in grape view.com and it's gabbing, G-A-B-B-I-N-G.

Suzie:

Excellent. Well, all I can say is, uh, bye-bye.

Claire:

Bye-bye.

Okay.