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Hey guys. Welcome to Gabbing in Grape View, the podcast for appreciating good and lighting up your way. I'm your host Susie. And I'm Claire with a passion for heartwarming stories. How are you, Claire? I am doing quite well. I would say a little frazzled. I got a lot going on, but I have my health. Great. And do you know what's happening in the universe? I have my health. I have my health. I'm vertical. I'm a safe place in my own body. I'm taking extra good care of myself. Good. And. Yeah, so I'm doing quite well. Good. I would consider the state of the world to be quite chaotic, and so there's a lot of anxiety that I'm fighting through for sure. But on top of that, yeah, everything's personally is going okay. It's really difficult. I'm I was at Pilates. I'm gonna bring up Pilates probably every time'cause I go once a week. At the very least, that's your check-in. It's my check-in and our Pilates check-in. I'm giving it at the front end of the podcast. But we were in Pilates and we were talking about how we would at this point prefer to have George Bush talk to us. Dick Cheney talked to us. Any, you know, anybody that's actually knows what the rules are and the laws and that sort of thing. But I'm also kind of mad, extra mad at George Bush and just and Dick Cheney right now because of the Patriot Act and like I'm a little bit worried about all our data being aggregated into one place and it wouldn't be that way without the Patriot Act. Yeah. So. That's a big you know what, to those men and then also the men that are in charge right now, I'm giving that same, you know, what to them. But that's okay because I currently have free speech and I can currently exercise that free speech. Yes. And hopefully it will stay that way. Yes. All right. God willing. Yes. And Dick, how are you? And Dick is still alive, but not speaking up. I can't, yeah, I can't even, but that's their, that's none of them are Obama did. A little bit for the universities and free press. Anyway. There we go. Okay. This week, how are you? Good. It's been a busy, busy couple weeks because we do this semi-weekly, so razor clamming the week before. Yes. Oh man. How'd that go? That was great. Chowder. Yes. There's a story to that. Chow chowder chow. Let's see. We saved it. We did have, we do three things with our razor clams. We have chowder. Fred makes this great batter, and then we deep fry'em. Ooh, ooh. Not deep fry. Just fry. Just fry like a frying pan. Yeah. Okay. And then he makes a special kind of crust. Ooh, yeah. Crackers. Ooh, you just sound like the NPR ladies. Ooh, ooh. And then anyway and then we do these Westport. Ooh, what is it? You deep fry it? Westport. Fritter. Ooh, a fritter. They are so good. So we did that. That was fun. Love the ocean. Love those. The water. Where do you go to do your razor cla? We do harvesting. We do Grayland Beach. And where's that? The ocean. On the ocean side? Yes. On the, so not the sound, not Puget sound. Oh, no. And not, I'm sorry. It's true. Canal. You wouldn't know that. Yeah. No. And the ocean, maybe our listeners would. You're right. You're right. If my mom is listening, she has no clue. That's right. You're, hi, mom. Hi mama. Are you listening? Yes. So it is on the Pacific Ocean. Okay. You do need a license. There are weeks that they open it up days, and every beach has a different day and time. You go low tide, okay? You do razor clamming, low tide, low tide, and. Is it like there's nets and you just, you dig, you, you dig, you dig a hole. You can use a shovel, a special clam raise, shovel. But these things look like huge I don't know, oysters, gooey ducks, but they dig really fast. So tell our listeners what a gooey duck is. It's a long shelled. Is it a mollusk long shell? It has two ends and they suck water in on one end and push it out the other. I have not had, oh, I have had gooey duck. It's very good. Is it? Mm-hmm. Okay. Razor clams are really good too. Delicacies? Yeah. You find a little divot. You, that's where you start digging. Digging. This is back to razor clamming now? Yes. Okay. That's where you dig. Or you use this big cylinder with a hole in it and a handle on top. You push it down, plug the hole, pull the sand out, and a razor clam should come with it. Oh yeah. That's exciting. Mm-hmm. And so this is on the ocean side of Washington. Yes. So we are like ocean shores. Yes. Westport, west Ocean. Just depends. Along the coast, everything's different. But my son bought a house in Long Beach, Washington. Hey. So he's congrats. Thank you. Two blocks from the ocean, so we can go there now. That's fantastic. Yes. So this time when you went, did you take your trailer? No. And stay in that? We have, we've stayed in little RV parks, but we just go for the day. Just for the day. Yeah. About an hour and a half there. Dig. And you could. Dig 15 minutes, you could dig 45. It just depends on how they're showing. Yeah. And Fred is the razor clam whisperer. I am not, but I, I'll walk around and look for divots and Oh, okay. I'll do my best. Yeah. But it's hard. I bet you have to pull up on that, that cylinder and worth it. Yeah. Yeah. Super worth it. It's good. Oh man. Okay. Well, so that was, that was two weeks ago, and then last week, of course, New York, you were in New York. Yeah. What, what'd you do last week? Getting Kevin all packed up? Yeah. Oh man. This last week has been like a runaround, but the weekend before that we had a really nice time in Portland. We went to Portland. I think I might have talked about going to Portland Last time you time we were on the pod and stayed at the Cascade Spa, thermal Spa and Spring. Was it everything. It was so lovely. They have done such a wonderful job of creating like their own vibe. As soon as like you walk in the door, so you walk in and it kind of feels like you're in a cave almost already. Mm-hmm. Even though, you know, you look out the window and there's the city street right there with cars parked on it. Oh wow. People walking around and everything. So it's a very residential neighborhood. Well, not super residential. There was some restaurants and stuff like that right across the street. It's weird like Portland. I really like Portland. Oh, David and I agreed that if we had gone to Portland before we came here, that we might not be here'cause we really liked it. But I'm so happy to be not in the city that there's no way that I'm going to Portland now I. No. And they have in income tax. Oh, well I'm a entrepreneur. I don't really, do I pay income tax? I dunno. Yes, David can tell me. Okay. He does. We pay, I think we have to pay in Illinois still'cause his company's in Illinois. Oh, okay. So I don't know how it works, but yeah. So. Portland was awesome. The food in Portland is fantastic. We went to this bakery called New Cascadia Bakery, gluten-free. Everything's gluten-free. You would never know it was so good. David had a bagel. I had a biscuit. We got a to-go pizza and cooked it in our convection oven in the hotel room later. It was delicious. I loved it. I would go back to Portland once a month to go to that spa Springs and. Go to that bakery and like that would be it. And then drive home. It would be fine. Oh, nice. So fun. Good. Yeah. So that was great. And then this last week was just running around lots of. Lots of work, lots of running around, a little bit of self-care time. Hey Pilates. Woo hoo. And then I went to the chiropractor. I really like my new chiropractor. She's adorable. I told her about the podcast. Maybe she's listening. Hey, new chiropractor, Paige. I don't know what your last name is, but I hope that you're listening. You pop, you pop it. Thanks for fixing my neck. Yeah, so that was my week and I got a busy week coming up because I got a friend coming in from out of town. My friend Nicole is coming from la. I know you have a story about that. Should I tell my my New York story? Oh yeah. Fi Let's finish the updates. Okay. So Kevin works for the National Park Service and he moved from Long Island, Sagamore Hill National Park. Shout out to his coworkers. Yes, they are so professional and so, just really, really cool people. I don't wanna say serious, but they are really good at what they do. So we've got Wyatt. No Witt, Aaron Witt. Amazing. I think she's in charge of the interpretation station. And this is at his park in New Jersey? Yeah. Long Island SS the new one. The old one. The old one. Sag Mo here. Teddy Roosevelt's. Theodore Roosevelt's. Manchin. And then Jonathan, his boss. So professional. And then you have Patrick, who I think is taking over his job. I'm not too clear on that, how that's, if that's working. I don't know. I think he's taking Kevin spot. Okay. And then there's Michelle and there's Claire who is like graduated from Brown. She's probably the best one of them. Just'cause her name's Claire. I know, I'm just gonna say it. I'm just gonna say it. And I did, I think I said, you're part of the Claire Club. And then I went, oh, I'm Kevin's mom. I can't say that. You gotta be serious. You can say what you need to say. I did, I said it and I'm just so impressed and thankful. But those are typical National Park employees. They don't work for the money, they work for the purpose, serving others. Yeah. So, he had great and maintaining the man, the integrity of the mansion and what it stands for, and all the work that they do. And I, you know, if you work, you're a park ranger and you work outside, it's the integrity of the land and nature and the habitat of the animals that live there, and they just, they hold that so dear and respect it so much that I have so much respect for them as people because of that, they're not. Asking for attention. They just show up. They show up and do the work, which I call deity. I call it holy work. They're not asking for for attention. They're not doing it for attention. They're doing it to serve the American people. Yeah, true Americans, yes. Yeah. So Kevin has to move with himself, his wife, his eight week old baby, and a cat. So adorable cat though. Oh yes. So Autumn. Autumn, the cat and the baby's name is Finn. Finn. Oh, love it. Yes. And he's going to have red hair, Finn with red hair. Oh, so cute. So then from there it is packing up the house. So the movers come, but before they come you have to pack for yourself and each person in your family. One month's worth of. Things you need. Yeah, because everything's packed. Yeah. You'll be in an Airbnb for a month. Okay. Until your house closes and they can deliver it. Yeah. The movers will deliver it. So there was pack for a month, movers came. That was an all day thing. Go to the airport with five in a room. Five in the room. Yeah. Great. It was great. Everybody did great. Okay, so it was you and Kevin. Finn and Finn Kaylin and Kaylin and the cat. So we're counting the cat at Oh, I love you. Count the cat as a fifth person. Oh. And I'll tell you why flew out. There was only one little glitch and there was, I was gone. I was waiting in the Alaska Airlines. Good for you. Lounge. Yes, grandma and, and I had my things that I needed to do to help. Yeah. But nothing like what they did. I just stood there and they would say, go get this. Go do that. That's what I did. But when you go through TSA, the cat, you're holding the cat. You have to take the cat out. Yeah. And then the baby Finn starts screaming. Bloody murder through, through the TSA. Yep. But it wasn't the only one. There was two other children that started it, you know, remember the, the barking chain and 101 woman? Yeah. This was the baby crying chain. Oh. I think that probably happens a lot. Oh lot. But it was stressful for mom and dad. Oh, sure. Total. Total. Because it's like, it's like, why are you crying? And you could hear'em and I can't do anything because I'm going through the line of TSA and my cat is also out of the bag. Yes. So here we up, we made it to the lounge and they chilled for three hours. We flew out. Fantastic. Everything was great. Good. Went to the new house next day, but before we checked out that cat, what we thought it got out of the room. No. Yes. It was very stressful. I'm sure it was stressed out. I'm sweating. I'm trying not to have any moms. Momism. Yeah, those mom things you say. Yeah. So I'm just doing what I'm told. Not popping off. Can't find the cat. We take apart the bed. I go to the front and I say, has anyone seen a cat? No, we haven't, but it's happened before. You have to take apart the box. Base on the bottom. We took it apart. We couldn't find it. Finally, Kaylin, look, this is the base of the bed. Yes. Okay. I I, we tipped it sideways. Oh my gosh. We couldn't find it. We're. Freaking out. We are, nobody's crying yet. And then Kaylinn reaches back. Oh my God. I don't tell David this story, please. Oh, Kailyn reaches back and pulls out the cat. We're like, from where? From in. That box wasn't in the box. It was behind it. Bullet bullet's. A black. Cat. Oh, black with orange little spots. Anyway, she had this look of tear on her face. The kitty. Aw, yes. So we, we were like, oh, that's not good. Bad kitty, bad kitty. And then of course I say, thank you, sweet baby Jesus. Thank you for finding the cat. And then everybody was like, thank you. Sweet baby Jesus. We were mad like 10 seconds and they were like, thank you. And then we hauled it up and cleaned it up. And then we're out. Oh man. And the rest is history. Oh my gosh. That is stressful. It, but it was Aw, fantastic. Poor kit, the whole thing. Yes. Poor kitty. So you've got friends coming. We have a friendship story. We're really good at segues people if you haven't figured that out yet. We are super good at them. So yeah, my update, I, so first of all, David and I had to travel with our two cats, Simon and Tootie, when they were younger from LA to Chicago, and we took them on the airplane and. That is the most stressful thing in the world. And going from New York to Seattle or New York to Portland? Yes. Oh my God. That's a longer flight. The cat. Holy moly. Not a peep. Not a peep. Not a peep. No. And she wasn't medicated. No. Nothing. Nothing. She's just. Very chill. She's just chills. Yeah, she just did it. Oh wow. Finn did great too. He didn't cry. They fed him take off. They fed him landing. I think it has something to do with the ears. He just did great. That's great. Except the TSA line was. Not good. That was not good. No. And just because of the baby crying chain, huh? Yeah. Well my friends are coming and they will be in the TSA line soon'cause they're coming from LA up to Seattle. My friend Nicole from grad school is coming and her child and her friend and her friend's child, and they're gonna stay at the Airbnb. Which is great that we have space for them to do that. And I'm not sure what we're gonna do, so we're just, did you kind of hang out? I gotta do some gardening out there. Maybe have the kids like pick up sticks for an afternoon. But yeah, that's kind of what the plan is. Don't really have too much of a busy week other than I'll have people to take care of. Y Oh yeah. I mean, they can take care of themselves. Obviously they're adults, but when you host, you feel like you kind of have to make sure everybody's got everything they need kind of deal. Well, your Airbnb is top 1%. So you're top 1%. You load it up. I'm gonna load it up. Yeah. Well, it's loaded. I don't have to look it up. You gonna do a charcuterie? No, I probably will not do anything extra.'cause I think they're gonna stop at the grocery store and get everything they need before they come. Oh, that's good. Yeah, so I have all the stuff that I normally have just right there. Oh, okay. Good. And eggs we're on sale for four 50 for an 18 count. Really? Oh. So I stacked up on eggs. Good. I should have called Fred and told him. Sorry. Yeah. Well, I did, I went to Costco. Oh, well you got your Costco. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's happening and they're staying all week. And then they leave on Saturday, next Saturday. And we're gonna go the day they head home. I think it's not till later in the evening. So we're gonna go do a Earth Day forest cleanup at the Thuya State Park in the morning and clean up any trash and. Make it all nice and pretty and how it should be good. But that's kind of all, that's on the docket for no zoo trips for the kids. They're gonna stay in Seattle the first two nights, so I'm hoping that they'll get all their tourism things that they need to get done. And I don't really love being a tourist these days, so I'm gonna stay home. Oh good. And let them have a good time. Yeah, good. And I have lots of work to do, so Good. There's, you know, I don't know if you know this, but I do kind of a lot of things, like I've got my New Moon newsletter that I do, I have this podcast that I do, I have an Airbnb that I take care of. I'm consulting for another person's Airbnb. And yeah, there's just, it's kind of a lot these days to keep it all, all the plates. Spinning in the air. So I gotta work. I'm behind on all things, everything. But yeah. That is that, and I'm excited. Nicole and I have been friends for 19 years, I think since 2006. We met when I went to grad school at USC for public art studies, which is no longer a degree. And I'm kind of not super happy with USC either'cause they dropped their DEI initiative, but, hmm. That is happening all over the place and they need money, so I guess they have to bend to the man. What a weird, weird time it is, isn't it? It's just a bizarro time out there. Gosh, for sure. But yeah, it's, it's nice. It's been really such a pleasure to be friends with Nicole for so long and be able to. You know, lean on her when I've needed to and her on me. And I think that there's something to be said for that kind of a friendship. I also feel like as you get older and your lives are totally different, like she's a mom. I'm not, she lives in la, I live in the woods. You know, you grow differently. And so it can be kind of hard to reconnect or. I understand where each other are come coming from, so I'm just hoping that everything will be smooth sailing and we'll have a great time while she's here. Have you seen White Lotus. Season three. I did see white lotus, those, all of it. Yes. The three friends at the very end. Sure. Yeah. I love your face. Yeah. I am so happy for you. Yes. I love your face. Yes. So that's it right there. It it is right there. And like I. I have been having a goal for a while now of trying to be more compassionate and unconditional with my love and how I give that, and at the same time, you know, not letting people take advantage. Of me at the same time or feel like I'm being used at the same time. But how do I have unconditional love? Even if I feel used, like I can, I wanna get there. I know that's difficult. It's like angel level stuff, right? Yeah. So, but like that's the goal, right? Like if love is the answer, then love is the answer. We, and it looks different. It looks different. It does, yeah. You can say it's okay. I can't really do that right now. And still, yeah. And especially if you know that the, like I just, I have this image in my brain of a scene in a television show called The oa, and if anybody's ever seen it, you'll know what I'm talking about. But she. Is this, and the OA stands for Original Angel, I believe. But she's this woman who has had this experience and this young man doesn't understand her and has a lot of fear surrounding her and her experience. And so he stabs her and she takes it and she hugs him and they cry together. And it's like there's this understanding of like. I still love you. I'm still here to help you and support you, even though you've stabbed me kind of a deal. Mm-hmm. Which maybe is crazy to some people. No, but like for me, I want to embody that as much as I possibly can and to understand that that's, that love is still there. Like I can feel the pain of the stabbing. Right. I that I will feel that, but I also wanna feel the love for that person and have the compassion that whatever they're going through that they needed to stab me deserves compassion. My first thought on that is it's not really about me. The stab. Right. It wasn't about me. Right. It wasn't about me. It was about them was so if you, if you take many things with that point of view, maybe someone hurt your feelings, maybe someone was super rude. You Right. You don't have to hold onto that. You can I do. I say it's really not about me. They're going through something. Exactly. It's very liberating. It is. You can do it in the car when you're driving and you get angry at somebody and you notice that anger and you're like, ah. But then you're like. Oh, love. I'm so sorry. You must be having a bad day. You can't pay attention to the driving because of whatever's going on in your brain. Like, I feel for you and I'm gonna send you peace and love, and then you go with that instead of the swear words that maybe initially come out or would normally come out. Yes, Sean and Kevin were really good. Helping me at, in a moment. I think it was Sean, the older one, someone cut me off and he said, mom, you, you don't know what's happening with them. Maybe they have to get to the hospital really fast. Maybe they're gonna miss a ferry. Maybe they're going to, there's an emergency. And I was, oh gosh, Sean. You're right. Yeah. So sometimes it takes our kids to. Place us in the right frame of mind. For sure. For sure. And I just like, that's such a small example of what you can do with that compassion, but like when it's like your friend that's done something to hurt you and like you're just confused or like you don't understand it and that's when it's harder to give that love and compassion'cause you have so many more feelings than just that irritation. That that guy cut you off, right? Like there's a lot of more layers there. And so I think that building that muscle in those small instances can help you later on, bring more compassion. At least that's my hope to other people. And to the people that are closest to you. Yeah, I just, I just feel like love is the answer. Exactly. Tell me a time when love is not the answer. If you feel like I'm wrong, please send me a message and tell me a time and what's the address. Oh, our address is hello at gabbing in grape view.com. That's Hello. H-E-L-L-O at gabbing in grape view.com. Excellent. It's not, hell no, it's Hello. Yeah. But yeah, so that is kind of where I wanna leave that, I think. But I think as we get older, we struggle in friendships and it's hard to. Keep that compassion. So that's my goal and part of it when you have me, I have friends probab good, good friends over I 50 years, maybe longer, where maybe they're one of my best friends, but I'm not one of theirs. Right. And when you have that knowledge. That's okay. Yeah. You, you, you would do something great or they forgot about you. You're like that reckoning. Oh man. I'm just not one of their best friends. They're one of mine. Yeah. Or. Does. I don't know. I think that, is it just maybe women that get caught up with that? Yes. Best friend terminology, have two boys, but like that's the have two boys whole thing that I would like to throw out the window because I think it puts us in competition with each other. And I don't wanna be in competition with any friends of my friends. Well, when I say best friends, I know I'm not changing the meaning of the word, like they really are. One of my. Better friends. Yeah. Best. I don't know how you would label it. Yeah. But I'm the closer friends, closest friends, people that you share. Any kind of experience with, well, they're still best friends. I think they're just friends. Oh, that's good too. There you go. You own it. Yes, but I have, I'm trying to change our terminology. One podcast at a time. Last time it was hard work this time. It's best friends. I'm Do, I'm keeping that one. I'm keeping the word equal too. Oh, I'm keeping the word all the words. I'm keeping them all and I'm adding a few expletives. We did a friend check-in. We did your Pilates. Yeah. Pilates. We love Pilates. I love you Kelly. And I feel like maybe we should get a little history in a history lesson, a little grape view history lesson. Yeah. Does that sound good? Yes. So we tell us the update or the new news that we are gonna learn about. Today, well last week was about Detroit Long Canal. So, they tried to create these men from Canada. They tried to create another Detroit thinking of the canal. Suez Canal. Yep. Panama Canal. And they were gonna create a canal between the Hood Canal, which is actually a fjord and. The Puget Sound Yes. Didn't work out so well. It's about two, two and a half miles, something like that. Yes. Well, today, let's think about great view and the times, and I think, we'll, we'll talk about architecture, construction probably things in the area that help them live, live and survive. So when you think about a house and a roof, they didn't have. Like we have now. You can't go to Home Depot back in 18. Dope. Everything was logging logs. So they would, yeah, and they had to have like a metal smither to make their nails and things like that. Yeah. Or could they go to Tacoma and get that sort of thing? I don't know. I'm sure. Yes. Tacoma was the hub. Big, big they would take the flotilla, the drain, the jet supplies, but a lot of their supplies, they had to just create here on site. Well, they would use cedar. Cedar shingles. Cedar shingles, yes. So they would do those. And those are very flammable log houses. Those are very flammable. Oh, so was there a big fire? There were fires all the into it, but there was, when they did brickwork like chimneys, there was a constant fire. So the specialty at the time were, were chimney builders. Okay. Yeah. So that was a specialty area. Probably mason, chimney builders. So that, do you think that's why it's called Mason County? I dunno. Oh, that's a question. If you know the answer. Oh gee. Send us an email at Hello. Not hell no. Hello Gabby And grape view.com. Yeah, but you could tell the houses that were here longer because they had more detail on the outside. They didn't burn down. They were able to put detail. Like Cedar Shake detail. Okay. So do we still have houses from that era in Yes. I know they do an Olympia, the waterfront here in Grape View. I'm sure I, I, yeah. Maybe. I haven't, I don't have a factual note on that, but I'll drive around and get that and I'll go to little Detroit. She's like, I dunno, I'm new here. So food though, for food, you had to have a garden. Mm-hmm. An abundant garden. So they would have a large garden. Of course you could have meat. There was venison and then fish. All kinds, lots of venison. Yeah. Lots of fish. Yes. If you were seafood. And fish. Yes. If you were lucky to get venison, elk, it, it was hard. They were bow hunting? No, I think they used rifles. The rifle. It was the 18, 1890s or so. Okay. You didn't eat cash. You just could not live off the land. You needed cash, which meant the men had to go logging during the week. There was a big camp gris here. Where did you spend the cash? Well, you would buy things with it if you, there was markets. Here you would here probably order it from Tacoma if you needed a wood stove. Okay. If you needed to go to the store things, things that you had to buy, you still needed cash. Got it. Okay. I have so many questions. I know you do. You need to go to a national park? We'll take you to Fort Tillicum. Oh, okay. Which is at Point Defiance. Fortum is at Point Defiance. Yes. It's not Insum. No. Okay. Now there were conveniences. They didn't have refrigeration, so they would put to keep things cold in a basement or they'd put it in a spring. Yeah. In the water underground. Yes. Yeah. So they would do that. There was no electricity. The Cushman Dam was built in 1926. So after that you were able to have electricity. Okay. 1926. Wow. That's a, I couldn't do it. No. I give thanks to my running water every day. Oh, and hot water. Yes. I love it. Yes. Thank you. Plumbing system. Yes. So telephone. To get the telephone lines from Shelton to Allen, it costs$500. They wanted to extend it to Alan in 1913, but they didn't do it. It took$500 and they were still total to bring everyone. A telephone line, or you had to do it individually as a family to bring a line from Shelton, one line from Shelton to Allen and then it was something different to hook up to that line. Okay. But just to bring the line, it was 500, that was 1913. They were still talking about it in 1920. Sounds like the they didn't train line. That's gonna go from Tacoma to Ctec. Oh, it's kind of similar, huh? Yeah. Light rain a while. Light rail. The light rail, that's the word. Yes. So. In order for a family to be part of that line, they had to cut their own pole and stand their own pole. Wow. And they would hook up to the telephone line. You really, really, really needed to nag your parents in order to get a telephone line. Oh yeah. Can you imagine? Oh my. Oh man. Yeah. So those were like the conveniences or living. What it took to live out here. I bet it was like that in a lot of places. And I'm curious if we have listeners who are maybe not here in Washington. If we do have two listeners, one in Australia and one in New Zealand. Ooh, I love it. I wanna know. That's my friend Sherry. Hi Sherry. Hi Sherry. I wanna know if you know Sherry. And you can tell Susie this, you don't have to like write us an email or anything, but how was it for you where, well not you, but how was it for the people that lived where you live in getting their first telephone line and how much did it cost and what was that like? That's such a fun experience to think about. I'll, I'll get back to you on that. Okay. Okay. We, I have now been talking for 37 minutes, but you have full, so I do quick check-in on Julie. Oh, Julie. Julie's great. She's, and then we're gonna do a quick cat check-in. Okay. And then I wanna do a, what'd you learn? Okay. Julie's great. Take her around. I'm always getting pictures of the pets, dogs and cats that she's watching this today. Was, she's a, she goes in and cares for other people's pets and dogs, correct. Or she has come to her. They come to her. Okay. They, yes. She's a pet sitter though. Yes. They drop them off. They drop them off at her house, which is amazing. That's awesome. Yes, and there'll be times where they will be out on the golf course and they'll call her. We, I laugh so hard, Julie. I'm not making it off the course as quick as I thought. Would you please go to the house and watch? Fido, of course. So she gets in her brand new golf cart, drives it into another gated community with 10$20 million homes and sits with the dog and has fun. She loves it. Oh my gosh. She can't have a dog'cause she goes back and forth too much. Yeah. So it's just. Every week we just, we get new pictures of different dogs and cats. Just love it. Yeah. That's so fun. What a lovely life you have, Julie. Yes. I love it for you. If you ever want to come and dog sit and cat sit for us here next to Susie and Fred and have your own little outdoor spa here at the courtyard of the Claire Stream. Fred's old house. Fred's old house. I'm gonna tell you now, she's gonna say no. It's a lot nicer now. We've fixed it up. Oh yeah. I'm just saying she's not in the woods kind of gal. No. Okay. Well I'm looking for a pet set. Well, I have one pet set her bed, like to have a second one. It's good back. So if you're in grape view and you wanna pet sit for me, hit me up. But yeah, so Julie's great. The cat is doing amazing. He is getting so big. We call him chunk'cause he's a little chunk. Aw. And he's a little crazy right now'cause there's a full moon out today, yet Last night? Tomorrow. Oh. And I like to think the full moon is lasts for like three days. I know technically it doesn't, but technically it does in my brain. So my, my, my there mother-in-law, former mother-in-law, Helen, God, I just loved her. She was 20 years older, 15 or 20 years older than my mom, but she was like a grandmother to me. Yeah. I just loved her. But she worked as a nurse. In New York City, she was trained in Bellevue. Okay. New York City, the psych hospital. Okay. And then she started working there. Her husband at the time was a superintendent at Gramercy Park. Okay. And so she has these great stories of. In the psych hospital, full Moon, the full freaking out in the, it was terrible. And she'd come home and she did it here as well when they moved west. She was like, yeah, it was crazy. The full moon. But she had that New York accent. Anita Ra, I love it. Cor. Well, people are, what is it, 80% water? I don't know what the. Tech, the actual percentages. But if you have that much water in your body and the moon is pulling water on the earth, like just makes sense. It makes sense. It maybe you'd be a little weird during the full moon or that certain things would happen, but yeah, the cat was a little wild in the night, and I'm a little tired because of it, but it's Saturday, we're hanging in. What do we got left? What'd you learn? What do you learn? What did you learn? Oh, I got yours is supposed to be so good today. I'm excited. I wonder if people know this. Prove it. Prove my excitement. Yeah. Woo. I'm so excited. No, you were learning. What is it? Okay, so did you know that the who. The, the name of the song, the name of the song that we all think is called Teenage Wasteland. Yes. Is not called Teenage Wasteland by the Who? What is it? It's called Baba O'Reilly. Did you know this? No. Yes. So you know that song, teenage Wasteland What? Whatever. It's called Baba O'Reilly and it is named after two people that had influenced. The Pete Townsend, so it was Meher Baba, a minimalist was a spiritual leader, and then Terry Riley was a minimalist composer, so this must have been a tribute to them. Oh, and so that's why it's called. Baba O'Reilly and Na Teenage Wasteland. That's great, huh? Yeah. That's cool. Isn't that cool? I'm going home to listen to that song now. I know, right? Wow. We should play it at the end of the podcast. Maybe we'll play it for you. Maybe we have time to figure that out. I don't think we have rights to play it. No, we don't. Don't tell. Do what? We're not playing it. Go look it up. Well, I, we'll link it in the show note. This is fun. It's, you can't take our fun away. Oh, man. So, so tell me, what did you learn? That we were going out razor clamming and I said, Fred, when, when do our licenses expire? Well, they're good until 2026. Oh, okay.'cause I thought it was March 31st. Anyway. Open it up. Boom. It it, they were expired. Oh. So how are we gonna do this? All the license agencies are closed. Oh. We can do it online. Oh, you do everything online? Buy hunting, license, fishing, license. Clamming license online. Yes. Now you would think it would be cheaper for the state because they don't need a physical office. Everything. They don't need to employ people. They don't need a salary for the people that they, I could go on, but no, they charge you an online fee. It's because they're getting charged by the credit card company to process your. Payment and they're passing that off to you, and that's what that fee is for. But when I go to the Chamber of Commerce and buy it, there isn't a fee using my card, they probably have some kind of deal. Okay. Or maybe the Chamber of Commerce is just eating that fee where the government won't, okay. I don't know. Could be. Did you know that our government is taking all of our money? Oh wait, no, they're just losing it. Oh God. Oh, but chin anyways, people Freedom of speech. Full Moon, Julie's great friendship is hard. Great view is still awesome. It is. And that's a wrap up. Okay. So I'll see you. I'll see you around the neighborhood. We'll see you later. Okay. Bye. Bye-Bye.