The Intentional Product Manager Podcast
Are you a high-performing product manager looking to reach the next level of success in your product career?
Shobhit Chugh will show you how.
Shobhit left a full-time roll at Google to help ambitious product managers position themselves to become product leaders, so they can raise their income as much as 50%, command the respect their hard work deserves, and make an impact they can truly be proud of.
To learn more about how to take your product management career talk to us at https://www.intentionalproductmanager.com/apply
The Intentional Product Manager Podcast
Mastering the CPTO Role — Bridging Product & Tech for Real Impact
The CPTO model is on the rise — but what does it really take to succeed when you're leading both product and engineering?
In this episode, Shobhit Chugh chats with Shobhit Jain, a seasoned Chief Product & Technology Officer, about how unifying these two functions unlocks innovation, accelerates delivery, and drives smarter AI-native strategy.
From shaping strategic roadmaps to scaling cross-functional teams, this conversation is packed with insights for PMs and tech leaders ready to grow into more strategic, high-impact roles.
You’ll learn:
- Why the CPTO model is gaining momentum — and what makes it work
- How to go from tactical PM to strategic, executive-minded leader
- How to align product and tech teams around systems, not silos
- What visionary leadership actually looks like in a fast-moving tech org
- The most common leadership traps — and how to avoid them
- How to level up your storytelling, stakeholder management, and influence
- What PMs need to understand about AI (and where most get it wrong)
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro
00:27 – Why the CPTO model matters
00:51 – Meet Shobhit Jain
02:13 – AI’s impact on product and tech
04:03 – System-thinking in team building
08:15 – Driving vision and shared goals
11:24 – Scaling strategy beyond the roadmap
13:24 – Short-term vs long-term tradeoffs
16:06 – Earning stakeholder trust
19:36 – Building your leadership narrative
22:51 – Lightning round: fun & reflective questions
29:26 – Wrap-up and takeaways
Listen if you want to:
✅ Step into more senior product or tech roles
✅ Become a more strategic cross-functional leader
✅ Learn how to drive outcomes—not just output
Connect with Shobhit Chugh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shobhitchugh/
Connect with Shobhit Jain: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jshobhit/
www.intentionalproductmanager.com