Healing Through Feeling: Mastering Emotions with Jin Shin Jitsu with Suzanne Andora Barron

In this insightful episode of the Leading Victory podcast, host Amanda Nicole welcomes guest Suzanne, an expert in emotional healing and Jin Shin Jitsu. Suzanne shares her powerful journey through grief after losing her child to leukemia, and how she developed practices to prioritize joy over fear.

Discover the ancient Japanese healing modality of Jin Shin Jitsu and learn how it can be used to manage anxiety, fear, anger, and sadness. Suzanne explains how each finger corresponds to specific emotions and organ functions, offering listeners practical tools for emotional balance.

Key topics include:
- Overcoming pain and embracing joy in the face of tragedy
- The power of meditation, Jin Shin Jitsu, and breathwork for grounding
- Daily practices for cultivating a positive mindset
- Understanding the CTFAR model for transforming thoughts and emotions
- The importance of slowing down, self-reflection, and gratitude journaling

Don't miss the free workshop on October 16th and 18th to learn more about Suzanne's transformative approach to emotional healing! Find links below to register and download resources mentioned in this episode.

Website: https://suzanneabarron.com/

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You're listening to leading victory, a podcast where. We ask what makes you come alive and infuse you with the inspiration and courage? Courage to take action to live your victories out both big and small. I'm your host, Amanda, Nicole. I want to take a moment. Moment in. Thank you for your patience. I know that I have. Been delayed in posting. And so many of you reached. Out to me, which I appreciate I was living some victories. In my life for family, we had some things pop up. Yup that I had to just put this on hold and I just ask where. You are forgiveness in really not communicating that clearly. So thank you for sticking with me. We have some incurred. Credible stuff coming up. And I promise you, we were can continue to. Champion those victories and deliver great content for you. So with that being said, thank you for your grace. And let's get started. All right, my friends. Today. I have the great pleasure of bringing to you one of my friends that I met in our podcasting course. Suzanne has been such sunshine to get to know. I wanted to make sure that I brought her to you in the month of October, because of her perspective on mental health and what she brings to help understand emotions, particularly hard emotions. I've watched her navigate overcoming mindset of overthinking and, she's been such a joy and a pleasure. Suzanne, thank you so much for joining us today and welcome to the show. Oh, Amanda, it's such an honor to be on your show. And it's such an honor to get, to know you in the podcast course, but now working with you as a coach. I just feel like I've blossomed from being in your presence in world. That's so complimentary. And you have blossomed and you're really mastering that beautiful, marriage between action and thinking. So capture for me a little bit about what's shifted for you in the past few months. Okay, so when I first started out, everything was deadline based. I even found myself doing it when I had pop up classes. Maybe a month ago. I knew I was teaching that afternoon, and I waited until two hours before the class to figure out what I was going to teach. I had a rough idea, but I like to write things out to organize my thoughts, I remember saying to you, I'm waiting, and it's so stressful, so bad for you, and chaotic, as a society, we get that high from waiting, that frantic energy, but the frantic energy is so chaotic, and so from that, I learned, even though I'm a meditation teacher and teach calmness, you could have power hours and take 30 minutes of dedicated work you could do it in advance and organize it having that organization and plan made it. So much more doable. So much more fun, so much more at ease. And I find myself getting more stuff done, but with more ease than pain. That's huge. Working out of a place of peace rather than a place of pain. But you've, experienced a lot of pain in your life. Oh, yes. A lot of pain. So what is it like to retrain to come from a place of fun and peace rather than pain? Like what had to shift inside of you? So I should back up the pain that I've experienced, as you know, is not comparable. The pain I had was I lost my little boy when he was nine to leukemia. I was destroyed, completely destroyed as any parent would understand. Christopher had leukemia three times the first time when he was three, the second time when he was eight and the third time when he was nine. And remission, he got into it like that 28 days, but then the treatment period was two and a half years. I had an anxiety disorder. diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder. I wanted to give my boys a good childhood. I also wanted to keep them safe. that's not always on the same plane, but I felt like my husband and I, but I was a stay at home mom, so I was with them full time. We were holding their childhood in our hands. I really expected him to live. I couldn't make, like, so he, they were diagnosed, he was three and his younger brother was one. And when they finished, when he finished treatment, he would be almost Six and his little brother would be almost four. it would have been terrible if their whole life was about doctor's visits and chemo. so I created practices to be present to them and the fear, even though it was there, I came up with the idea before it was a thing, one fun thing a day. And I figured if I could do one fun thing a day, no matter what. Then that was our goal the focus was on fun not fear. if it was raining I'm very spontaneous. I would take spaghetti pots and a tennis ball and we would jump over pillows or we'd put on rain boots and run around in the puddles and you know, it was just doing that. Like I had two practices and that was one of them. Wow. I just have this beautiful image of all the amazing sweet memories you made with your little boy and The play time that you made that entire time in their life. And it is about perspective. so you still have anxiety, right? Obviously. I still do. and I think it's interesting because you were saying that, even though I'm a meditation teacher, even though I teach yoga, we love to tell ourselves even though I'm doing these things. So, tell me, as far as it comes with anxiety, how has your practice, What has served you in being able to manage that anxiety between ginseng and yoga and meditation? I still have anxiety, but I don't have the anxiety I had when they were younger, probably because my child, you know, having a child going through that, being a younger parent, but I still have anxiety. My practices ground me I was thinking about this the other day, I got up and chanted. So I practiced Jin Shin Jitsu, which is light touch healing. And I also practice Kundalini Yoga. I got up and chanted because there's a specific, chant called Sata Nama. I was doing it and I could feel the ease. I could feel the grounding. And I almost thought, Oh my goodness, this is like putting a life jacket on. And when I don't put it on, I'm going out in the world and everything bombards me. But when I do that meditation and I have my life jacket on, it takes the energy field around you and makes it larger. So people's stuff doesn't bombard you as easily. So that's one thing. And then Jin Shin Jitsu, I started doing it at the beginning of, your interview. I have a podcast, I've had a podcast for almost a year, but still when I'm interviewed, or am I interviewing, I still reach for my thumb. So that's jinchin jitsu. And jinchin jitsu is you hold, specific locations on the body to balance mind, body, spirit. holding the thumb comes with anxiety. I teach it to everyone I come in contact with, both clients, students, and ordinary people. Which I think is great, right? When you can be your own healer, and people don't even know that those things exist, which is so cool to be able to offer that. People can look at you like you're nutty, but at the same time, if they do it right, then it's great. It's a great opportunity. I had a client just before I got on, she, Facebook messaged me and said, I crossed my wrists and held my inner thighs. I was so nauseous and had such indigestion and I did it for 20 minutes. then she put in the next message and it worked. I love that. that's interesting, right? how often do we convince ourselves that something's not going to work? I have a really good friend who is always, asking me for suggestions, I was talking to her just last week and said, you know, I didn't think it was going to work. I've been practicing this, for 13 years. she said, Suzanne, you always say that and you're a practitioner. I know that's how crazy the mind is. It convinces us it's not going to work. I have thousands of examples where it's worked. the mind, that's the ego mind trying to keep us safe. And something that I have loved introducing to you that you've really embraced and it's been fun to see is that you can now see that In your mind. It's not necessarily just part of you. It's them that those habits of thinking your habits of thinking aren't who you are, who you are is this natural genius that can think on the fly that can plan out that can have fun that is spontaneous and whatnot. Those habits of thinking are the ones that are in doubt. Yes. Yes. I just said that to someone the other day. I said, you know, that's your habit of thinking, not who you are. When we look at something as a habit, we realize that we don't have to change who we are. We are perfectly and wonderfully made, but our habits of thinking can be wonky. Right. Such a beautiful way of saying it. I almost texted you last night. And I'm like, it's Sunday night. Don't be bothering Amanda. But, the scrolls that we read through. and I was reading last night's, it was laughing at the world. Oh yeah. It shifted things for me. I needed to do something for someone. They wanted to get a picture for a haircut, right? They wanted to get a picture of someone, cause I said, you have to look at them. And She's like, but she's going to Turkey tomorrow. How do I get in touch with her? I don't know this person very well, but I know her enough. And I emailed her and I said, you know, you have the most beautiful haircut. Can I get a picture of you to send to my friend? Cause she wants to get a haircut like you. But as I was thinking about it, I was like, she's going to think you're insane. And then I thought, who cares? Because one, you're giving her this beautiful compliment and two, don't take yourself so seriously, like what's the worst that can happen? And then I sent my friend the photo and she's like, I can't believe you actually got it. that habit of thinking is that it's not ridiculous. We make it ridiculous. We create fear around it. We tell ourselves it's going to be the end of our safety. We're going to, fall apart. And we don't fall apart. And even if we do, there's so many things in that. part of leading victory is choosing to lead your own life and moving away from that victim mindset into victory day in, day out for you with your journey, what does leading victory mean to you? I think it's making a decision to do the practices. to decide what you need. What do you need to show up as your best self? And I know that language is overused, but how can you be you? Because we all have an insecurity, we all have doubt, we all have days that are going to be harder than other days, and it can have nothing to do with the outside world, right? leading victory is. Really getting quiet with yourself, figuring out what you need to support yourself and then doing it. showing up for you because when you show up for you or I show up for me, then your day is so much more magical. Even if you're having a hard time, you can find the light. I did, one of the scrolls the other morning, which was if this were the last day of my life? it was so amazing. I got up early. went on a bike ride and everything. I ran into someone I never met before and they had the same dog I had as a child, which no one has then I was riding on the streets and there was a sprinkler and I was going to get wet. But as soon as I got there, it changed directions and I didn't get wet. You know, I feel like it's because I made the decision that morning what my day would be like. Now, of course, we can have things happen to us. We are not God. We can't control the day, but we can create a mindset through our practices that can shift. So we're more positive going into the day. leading victory to me is making a conscious decision to tap into your own victory. That's powerful. Really looking at the day of like, what can go right today? We rehearse all day long about what can go wrong. why don't we give ourselves the tools and the quiet, even if it's only for four minutes in the morning, that's all it takes. Can it just be four minutes and it can shift your day. Now is there science behind four minutes? there is. I learned it from someone else, but it can't give you the science. It's really interesting because I have heard four minutes so many times, I was told in a course I took, four minutes of visualization cancels out eight hours of worry. And a lot of the times, I just literally, you know, maybe I'm visualizing something I want in the future, but a lot of the times, I close my eyes, I just imagine what I really want for that day, and it can be so simple, like feeling the ground under my feet, hearing the birds, feeling the air on my face. It can be so simple, but it still shifts my day versus I got to go teach 50 students today, like, right, And I imagine as you've been practicing moving from that obligation language, I have to, I need to, I should verse it to going into like, Oh, I get to, I want to, I need, you know, I did that last night. I was like, it was 11 o'clock and I have to say what you taught us. I want to, I get to, I choose to. Is so much more powerful than I get to because I get to is like, yeah, sure. I get to take the track Exactly, and I've taught it and it just really doesn't resonate with me But if I say like I want to I get to I choose to go to bed Versus staying up. I literally get up and I go to bed and maybe i'll read for a bit in bed But it's still better than going to bed at midnight and reading for a bit. That's huge. Just giving yourself that gift of rest. I saw the other day that rest isn't a privilege, right? It's not something, it's not a reward, Rest was a requirement, not a reward. That is so huge. I'm aware at least in my own anxiety journey, that I can start the day with the best of intentions. start grounded. It's going to be a great day looking for great things. then out of the blue anxiety will hit you, anybody listening with anxiety knows that happens. What's in your experience, something that we can do to really bring us back because whether we're on medication or whatnot, what do you suggest? I suggest a couple of things. interestingly enough, I'm going to actually suggest three things. one is the sat NAMA meditation that I mentioned before. It's called the Cureton Crea. for my young students, I teach high school and college students. I recommend three minutes a day for them. it works for them at three minutes a day. for adults. anyone who is an adult, they recommend 12 minutes to have true change. what I experienced when I practiced that meditation, 12 minutes a day, every day, I don't have as much anxiety. I don't worry as much. I see more clarity. I'll do it for, a month, two months. And then one day I'll get up. I'm not feeling doing it. And so I don't do it. And then I suffer, you know, and then getting back to it takes longer, So I still do that. one thing that's super powerful is holding your thumb, or any of your fingers, but the thumb calms worry. I teach at a local community college. I teach yoga for stress management and my students are college students. And then I have, high school juniors and I teach them holding the thumb and breathing and the breath. We forget about the breath. The breath is so powerful. I have them hold their thumb and breathe. And a lot of the times, if you're feeling anxious, I always say, check your breath because you're likely holding it. one student, I love to give their example. he held that thumb. he said to me, it's really funny. Cause I looked at him, like he thought I was crazy. I just assumed he thinks I'm crazy, and he came up to me two weeks after class started. And he said, you know, I have to tell you, I really love that. I have social anxiety and I'm so afraid to introduce myself in class. And I did the thumb and the breath and by the time it came my turn, I was fine. then I had another student who's an athlete. he said, I got up to bat and I was thinking about eight things. He was probably worrying about how far he'd hit it. The scouts, all of this. And he said, I held my thumb and breathed and my eight things went to one and I hit the ball further. So the breath is really powerful. I went to the dentist. This is just a little aside and then I'll get to the third thing. I went to the dentist the other day and they started to numb me I said, what are you doing? she said, I'm giving you Novacaine. I said, Oh, I don't use Novocaine because I had a bad reaction once. Well, what do you do? so I showed her what finger I held. the reason I bring it up is this. So I held a certain finger because it helps large intestine energy runs through that finger. And it also runs through the mouth. If I didn't use the breath, it would have hurt because I would have been tensing. So I did long, deep breathing. It hit her a little bit, but not enough to use an Opacaine, the third thing I do, and this has been super powerful for me. I did this belief course, last year, and it was all about, when you have, real anxiety, not just nervous about taking a test because that's situational. But when you have daily anxiety, Jinchin Jitsu is super powerful, but I want to have quick results. I want it in the moment. I know my teachers will tell you, Jinchin Jitsu does work Yes, it does. But I want to fortify myself with as much as I can. Sure. And so. And so I, I, I really learned this practice where you, it's called, it's called C T F A R C means circumstance T is the thought, F is the feeling, A is the action, and R is the result. So the circumstance is, I don't know. Like, um, Costco on a Sunday. Right. Costco on a Sunday. The thought is like, I'm never going to get out of there. If you have claustrophobia, Then you have the feeling and you're tightened. And then there was the action. You probably don't go. And then you don't have food to feed your family. the thought is Wow, they have really great books I get to pick a new book today, or, I get to listen to music on the way there You get to choose how you think, I do this practice and you're like, that takes too much time, but it's so quick. Once you practice it, I was on a bike ride one time. when I went past the person, I yelled. on your left. And I scared them. They jumped, you know? And as I went past them, I was like, why did you scream? You could have just gone by them they're probably going to think you're rude. all the craziness went through my mind. then I thought? what's a different thought a different thought would be, they're so appreciative that I warned them that I was there versus hitting them. Yeah. And I had just dropped like it was truth. that's the thing, right? When we're thinking false thoughts, we're jittery. We're anxious because it's not truth. But when we lock into truth, the anxiety evaporated. That's good. That's so good to think about that. what isn't true makes us jittery. And it crosses those boundaries for ourselves. That's really cool. I hadn't heard that before, but I've experienced it. And I imagine that people listening are going to be like, huh, I feel that that rings true. That tracks. Suzanne, what do you feel has been one of the key factors that has allowed you to develop your character and endurance and vision to seek out this peace for yourself and to serve others? Perhaps it's a fighting spirit. back when my little boy was sick, I fought to give them a normal life. With my husband, he doesn't have anxiety. so it was a fight for me. After my son passed, it was a fight for my younger son to help him while we were all drowning, And it's, fight is such a negative word. So I don't mean fight, but it's almost like, I am happy so often throughout the day. The fact that I could go through that and be here, I want to be able to offer that to other people. And I want to have that for myself. I know what it's like to be drowning. I was in deep grief for three years. I, didn't leave my house. Except to pick my son up from school and drop him off. I was angry. I don't have depression naturally, but I experienced it then. I know how supportive I was. doing what can help me, how supportive doing the things that can help me be. And that's why I seek it out. I know I have so many tools because I've used so many tools on myself. I have so much to offer others. if I am drowning, then I can't help you because I can't help myself. Hmm. Yeah, that's good. Thank you for sharing. what advice would you give someone who is experiencing a similar circumstance or struggle that you have seen victory in? do you mean losing a child or simply having anxiety Either. I mean, I guess because it sounds like what I'm hearing you say is that really joy is your superpower. Happiness can be fleeting, but joy really has been your superpower, hence your podcast, right? Yes. Enjoying the hard. Finding joy in the hard. I think you have to slow down. I have a lot of energy. When I move very fast, I get hurt in some way, I fractured my wrist because I was rushing to get somewhere and I slid across the ice and down the steps wow, last week I left the stove on thankfully I have OCD, so I will never leave the house without checking the stove. But that day, I wasn't leaving the house, my husband's like, you left the stove on. I'm like, oh sorry, you know, because I was going too fast. I was moving very fast and when I move very fast, I forget things, I am more jittery, so the first thing would be to slow down writing out my thoughts is really big for me. You can start with a little tiny notebook. It doesn't have to be a big notebook. just writing for three pages in the morning. I have to tell you, I have a lot of tools that I use. I don't use them all the time, like holding the thumb for Jin Jitsu, practicing j Jitsu. It will always be part of my life because it's just part of me now, you know? Sometimes I, skip the meditation. Sometimes I practice it, so I have them come and go. that's another thing. Don't be so hard on yourself. Don't be rigid. Because we're so judgmental of ourselves, you know, and we're judgy of others. if we're judgy of ourselves, we're judgy of others slow down, listen to yourself. Get quiet. If you pray, pray, meditate, just really listen. it seems simplistic, but it's not because Sometimes when I've taught classes, I teach this one class once a month and I've been teaching at this yoga studio for years and we're now once a month. And so in the beginning of class, you have a teaching and Oh wow, they haven't seen me in a month. It's gotta be really good, and started scrambling, looking through all my books, doing exactly what I've told you not to do. And then I paused and I thought, just show up, just show up as you. And when I got there, I told them this. I told them that I was going through everything trying to find the perfect thing and I just realized you just want me. Wow. That's so good. And that's all the people in your life want is you, not the 5, 000 things you can do for them. That's tender. So, have you learned to celebrate yourself, or how have you learned to celebrate yourself? That's an area that needs work. What do you think makes that hard? What does make that so hard for people to celebrate themselves? It's a challenge enough being ourselves, but to celebrate ourselves. I think we convince ourselves we're not there yet, I haven't completed it, I haven't finished it. It's got to be something really big, we hear in every program, celebrate yourself, celebrate yourself, I've been on calls where, it's so great, like when you're in a group, what's one good thing that's happened to you this week, you're so excited to share it, but with yourself. it's that judgment. that perfectionism. some people have it more than others. this morning, my internet was not working. And I teach a Monday morning meditation every Monday It's complimentary. I've been doing it for four years. I get on this morning, I have no internet and at first, I yell to my husband, he's a technology guy, Zoom's not working! But then, when it was still not working, I was like, oh well, it's not the end of the world. It's okay, and someone called me and the celebrating part would have been like, I just was like, okay with it, you know? Yeah. And I did eventually get on and they all waited. At least 10 people were waiting for me and I always start right at 8am. So that's pretty surprising. That's great. there were so many little things to celebrate about it. Yet, I keep a gratitude journal without fail every night. That's a really key practice. You definitely, are a person of words and you write words and you capture words. Are there any quotes that you live by? it's very interesting when you asked me that question, I don't repeat them in my mind or anything, but they resonate with me. one of them is not choosing is still a choice. I procrastinate, I put things off since I started working with you, I don't as much, Because I think about my future self and how I can help her. I got that from someone I interviewed on a podcast, but it's so true. I like her and I don't want her to be frantic, you know? So I forget that not choosing is a choice. And this one, I live by, I read Pam Grout's, Horse and Miracles experiments many days a week. And, one of the things she says, and I live this, is on a daily basis, I instruct my mind to look for beauty. And I do that without thinking about it. I just see what's unique about today? Or What can I really cherish today? So much fun. It's been so fun to watch you come into your natural genius and shine. And this month you are sharing something with your audience that I want to share with mine, because it's so important going into the holidays. We've got anxiety. it's a weird year. We've got a lot of things going on and we have different choices that we can do with our emotions. it sounds like you've been able to really capture the full spectrum of emotions and allow yourself to really feel. And we've talked about, if you want to start feeling better, you got to get better at feeling. Tell me what are you launching this month? I'm watching a course and the tentative name is, you have to feel to heal. most of us don't know what we're feeling, whether it's conscious or unconscious, we suppress our emotions. And then they create problems for us mentally, emotionally, physically, and relationally. what I love about Jin Shin Jitsu is, it's an ancient Japanese healing modality in which you use your hands and your breath, placing your hands on specific locations on your body to balance mind, body, and spirit. the havoc that's created in our bodies. we call them projects. We don't call them problems or issues. So all the discomfort we have is called projects. We use that name purposely because there's a beginning and an end, but it's caused by emotions as humans It's part of being human. We all have emotions. It's when it becomes our attitude or our way of life. We all know someone who's, their attitude is anger. Their attitude is anxiety. For sure. My attitude has been, my attitude has been two things, anxiety and pretending, right? So there's five core emotions. It's anxiety and it's represented each by a finger. you can hold a different finger to calm that emotion. So it's anxiety, fear, anger, sadness, and an uncommon one that we're not used to, which is pretending. laughing on the outside, crying on the inside. all of them are related to different organ function energy, so for example, if you're pretending, is that a balance you're more likely to have specific projects, heart related or small intestine related. The cool thing is, we say Jinjinjutsu is complicatedly simple. it's simple to practice, but what happens in the body is complicated. And so, you can throw your, well being off very easily, but you can also bring it back into well being very easily by holding a finger, by holding somewhere else on the body. The course I'm creating is you have to feel to heal for example, if you crave sweets, that's related to anxiety. If you crave salt, that's related to fear. If you find that you get triggered easily and you react versus you respond. That's anger. And so once you know what you're feeling, you can know it's that emotion. And then you're, there are tools to work with that emotion to balance it. So the course will be seven weeks, but the five middle weeks, one will be on anxiety, anxiety to peace, you know, fear to peace of mind or courage, anger to calm. It's sadness to comfort or joy and then pretending to truth. So you'll learn how to heal working with your emotions. That's so cool. So a seven week course moving through the holidays, helping people navigate what they're feeling to tap into their feelings. To have improved well being into the new year. Exactly. And then there's a workshop that you have introducing some of this. That's free. That is free. Where can they find information about that? Definitely through my mailing list and they can find it on my website. the other thing I'm offering for anyone, you can get a picture of the hand, that you can save to your own computer or laptop with all that emotion, with all the organs, and that will be in there. Show notes as well. Amazing. I'm excited for that because, I hope that people slow down this year for the holidays. And I hope that people feel, and wouldn't it be neat for people to not be afraid of feeling. it's not about the holidays. there's a lot of expectations, right? the number one cause of grief is unmet expectations. expecting to feel a certain way. We didn't get this gift. We didn't give them that gift. There's so many different things that can happen. it's not about feelings being isolated the holidays bring up a lot of triggers. That bring up a lot of emotions that we have judgment over. And I love that you're offering this as a tool, but it's really something that can be offered year round, and I love that. and it'll increase immune system, and I'm so excited for it, and I'm so excited for you. As we're signing off, are there any words of wisdom you want to give the audience? A lot of the times I just learned this. a thought. And usually it'll be an inspired thought and it'll be something so exciting that you want to do. And then right after you have that thought, you start to think, wait a minute, that's not going to work out or I'm not going to be able to do that. So that's the thinking, you can think of it as the ego. You can think of it as depending upon your, your beliefs, you can think about it as the devil, you can think about it as any way that isn't you. It's not your truth. so watch that. when you have that inspired thinking, and you're going to get such amazing. So what happens is you have the inspired thinking and then you have all the fear, anxiety, grief, questioning, all of that coming in. That isn't truth. That's just your ego trying to keep you safe, and it really wants to keep you safe, which is, it goes to such weird extremes to do so. And, but that inspired truth, stick with that, catch it, feel it, and take it in. Because that's your strength, that's your genius. Beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing time with me today. And I hope that as audience you'll click on those show notes, get connected with Suzanne on her Instagram, follow her podcast, and more importantly, follow up in the class that she is offering on feeling to heal. Thank you so much, Suzanne. Have a beautiful day. Thank you so much. Suzanne has offered us so much value. Today, and I want to give you the information for her workshop. That is coming up this week on the 16th. And the 18th, it's a free two day workshop called. Called process what you feel to heal using your hands, breath and mind. Set shifts. This two day workshop, you'll learn about the five. Core emotions and how in balancing them, you'll have more physical. in emotional ease. You'll learn hands-on tools. That you can take with you to start feeling better. This is a great setup. And again, the link is in the show notes, or if you get. The email, be sure to sign up for that. My newsletter, it will be. In there. So click that checkout, Suzanne and I. I hope that you gained great value. Now go out and lead this.