That Toxic Life

38. Getting It On

Jen and Erikka Episode 38

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Jen and Erikka go beyond the workplace relationship to getting jiggy with coworkers. They discuss potential issues, including HR violations and interpersonal conflict, but find some positive side effects as well.

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SPEAKER_01

Hello, and welcome to That Toxic Life. I'm Jen and I am Erica. And this is a podcast where we talk about toxic work things. And we specialize in the detoxification. The detoxification of detoxification or the extra toxification. Or making things extra toxic. If you want to know how to make things extra toxic, listen to this. And there you go. A step-by-step manual.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, right. Maybe we should put out a checklist.

SPEAKER_01

Hilarious. Uh, that is something we should do at some point, which is how to tell when you're the bastard. Oh, I like that. Or you're the toxic one. So upcoming uh episode at some point. Yes. Yes. I love that. But that is upcoming. So what are we talking about today, Miss Erica? Today we are talking about what's hey, I'm recording by we're discussing how to leave your children at the fire station even when they're 13. I think you have up until they're 14, right? I don't I don't know. People told me, you know, people actually told me that um she was too old to take her.

SPEAKER_02

You asked?

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, I think I Googled it. Um well now we know she's too old. Hers can be a little terrible sometimes. When it's like when she's sweet, she's so sweet, but then when it's bad, it's so fucking bad. I mean, she is 13, so no, I just I wasn't like this. I wasn't this kind of 13-year-old. You are remembering it as that you were not like this. No, uh, no, I confirmed it. Um, because I was bad, but I was uh I was different bad. I was like actually bad, but respectful to adult. I have a 13-year-old who will look you in your face and tell you why she thinks she's smarter than most adults. Like dead ass, like nope. It's them too without cracking a slow. I mean, you've met her. It's true. Maybe it can be a bit difficult anyway. Anyway, so we are talking, so we we've talked about workplace relationships before, but you know, it's a new year, and um we're gonna talk about something a little different having to do with workplace relationships, and this is what is involved with the physicality of workplace relationships and how that uh and how that can affect the workplace, make it toxic, make the relationships between you and the other person as well as you and your coworkers toxic, um, due to your weird ass decision making. When when we're talking um physicality, what exactly do we mean? I mean when you and your co-worker decide to cross the line and get busy, you know, when you all decide to engage in grown folk behaviors, when you grown folk behaviors, yes, when you decide to bump and grind, you decide to uh to do the nasty, the horizontal happy dance, if you will. Horizontal happy dance, I haven't heard that one in a second. All right, horizontal mambo, that one. Yes, yes, yes, a little tongue tango, you know. Yep, okay, yep, all of those things, you know. Um, so what the why are we talking about this today? Because it's something different to talk about besides boring HR stuff, Jennifer. Yes, right. Absolutely. And it's something that I mean, it's one of those where as much as we would like, as as much as we say, you know, don't do this, it's definitely one of those do as I say, not as I do situations. It is happening. It's it happens, you know, it definitely does.

SPEAKER_00

Um, it's one of the it's it's best not to, but but it's just so tempting, especially I think if you work with um with the with the per I'm not even gonna say the well, I can't even say the opposite.

SPEAKER_01

If you work with a person that you're attracted to, yeah, um, you're bound to there's bound to an entanglement at some point, I guess. So it's uh it's one of those where it's really you know, you spend so much time at work, and you get close to people at work, but also at work, you don't have to see their dirty dishes and poop stained underwear. So I don't understand. Um because I wish a motherfucker would. Um, but so uh actually, you know, I I have two kids out of a workplace relationship. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I got two, even though the 13-year-old is actually possessed by the devil at this moment, I I believe that one day she's gonna be normal a cat. I mean, she's 13.

SPEAKER_00

The hormone devil, yes, the hormone devil, so kind of possessed by a devil. Yeah, uh, yeah. I mean, and you know, my last two relationships were work work relationships.

SPEAKER_01

They are but so what are some of the difficulties? I mean, so what do you see as kind of one of the biggest problems with uh sleeping with your coworker? Are we gonna sandwich method this like good, bad, good or bad, good, bad?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, do we have to sandwich method this?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. You know what? My daughter told me that when I give her um advice or feedback, I should sandwich method. I mean, that is has she been listening to the podcast? Because that I feel like that's something that we what the hell she's on. But yeah, she told me that. And she was like, also when I get dressed, she's like, everything's the sandwich method, mom. She's like, it's so dumb that you don't understand this. Like, if you're getting if you're telling me stuff, it needs to be in the sandwich method. And if you're getting dressed, it also needs to be in the sandwich method. So my whole life is sandwich. Do you get dressed in a sandwich method? According to Allery, um, you get dressed using the sandwich method because she will go with a small shirt, so like uh something showing her midrift, of course, because you know, I have no control over what my children wear anymore. She looks like that. My son's like a hobo. It's fine. Um so yeah, she it's like small shirt, big pants. Man, those big pants coming back. Small shoes. Big jacket. That doesn't sound like a s well, okay. It is a sandwich. Yeah, so then would you wear big shirt small pants? Yes, big shoes? Big yes, so listen. So then the other way is oversized t-shirt, small jeans with the t-shirt tucked on the side to show that you do have on hands, right? Like if you wear shorts, even though it's winter time. I don't know, whatever. And uh, and then Timbaland boots with socks up to the knees. Oh, sandwich method.

SPEAKER_00

That's a thing.

SPEAKER_01

I think she always looks really cute, but it sounds absurd when you say it. It does. I'm sure it looks amazing. It does on her, yeah. Sure. However, I'm not gonna start making my life according to sandwich methods, but on me, she's like, no, mom, sandwich method. And I'm like, I'm like, no, I wish I had a fucking sandwich right now to eat. That's my whole I think once you turn 25, maybe the sandwich method doesn't work quite as much as oh I don't know, because it's some sandwiching going on. I think I don't know. I think once you just stop giving a shit. Well, I mean, that's that's definitely true. Uh I don't know how the sandwich method would uh work in work in like work outfits. It still works. It still does. If you so you go uh heels, wide leg pants, because you know the skinny pants are out, right? The long leg pants are in, so so we're going from the bottom, heels, wide leg pants, fitted shirt, blazer. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Hair pulled back. Yeah, I mean, I do hope that I never have to wear heels again. I think I'm trying to live my life by that. I don't own a pair of heels now. That's funny. You know what? I've started wearing them again, even being blind. I wear heels. Oh damn. Yeah, I've got girl, I've gotten no bowl these days. I figure, you know what? I got a big old bowl of fucking over here. 2026 is the year of fucking. Listen, 2026, the year of fucking today. I used a phrase I haven't used in a long time to uh make my coworkers laugh. I was like, you know what? This is my YOLO, my YOLO year, man. YOLO. I know everybody else's YOLO is thing anymore. No, it's not. I'm bringing it back. I'm bringing it back. Don't do that. Uh even though everybody else's YOLO year was like 2016, I waited 10 whole years to, you know, get to get out of a relationship, heal, go blind, lose a bunch of people in my family that were important, and still choose to go on every day. So this is my freaking YOLO year. You know what? I more power to you. Thank you. Have your YOLO year. I'm gonna jump in on that and try to have well, not well, yes. No, you have to, but I'm gonna see Portland. I don't know if I can do a YOLO year this year. I might have to reschedule my YOLO year for next year. You have to reschedule your YOLO year. That's great. I love that. Anyway, you should bone a coworker. Um, so if there uh everybody is taken. You say the straws have been drawn, and I didn't know. Yes, that's not gonna happen. The straws have all been drawn, and I was left out. I came too late. Well, okay. Well, um, I don't know. I wouldn't, I can't say. As a person who's had a workplace relationship, do you think that would you suggest or not suggest them? There are it depends, I think. Um I think it depends on kind of the nature of the relationship and also the nature of your how the two of you kind of work together. Um so I both of the relationships I had uh kind of worked because we were still able to work with each other. Um, especially like the the one, the longer one. Um I was things were maybe not so good at sometimes, but even then we were still very professional. Oh my god, my dogs. Spaghetti said lie is not like I know he is. So, first of all, did you know that at the job that we worked at together, there were that the catwalk got so much action? I am not surprised. I am because I would be fearful of my whole life, but okay. Yeah, man, the amount of people that I hear say that they have done the very vertical happy dance. Oh yeah, I can see that walk is crazy. Yeah, I mean it's uh well it's because you're up there, you're I mean, I guess you'd have to figure out how to like make sure the door doesn't come open, but otherwise nobody can really see you. Well, no, they can if the lights are on, but otherwise, if it's during the show, my understanding is it's during shows, yeah. So it's kind of a private space. Um, I would suggest that people refrain from having sex with their co-workers at work in the building, is crazy work, like that's wild. Yeah, don't don't I would say don't do that because that is a whole lot of other issues involved.

SPEAKER_00

Um, if somebody catches, I mean, man.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, what do you do if somebody I think you get fired? Hey, like, oh my bad, I just slipped and fell.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, you didn't. I think you get escorted out of the building if that happens.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know, because I now, you know, um I more recently, when I had heard stories up there, all of the story there were so many, and I was like, What? Yeah, I'm a scary little bitch. There's no way. I think also though, uh we need our listeners to understand that there's a very different environment than maybe. I'd say in an office environment, it might be a bit more difficult. I don't know, I don't think so, because I worked for that bank for a long time. And there was a lot of fornication going on there. Okay. Well, I mean, it could be honestly, it could be considered time theft. It's definitely time if we want to get into it. Misuse of company resources. How many okay, okay? So if you fornicate work, yes, if you engage in quitus, I know that's the worst place of employment. How many HR violations are there? Well, okay, so we've already covered time theft. Yeah, there's time theft. I mean, I guess harassment for whoever has to see it, like when they walk in on you. Oh, yeah, definitely. Um I mean, depending on what it is, could be out of uniform. It could be out of uniform, yes. A lack of interpersonal skills, yes, depending on what y'all got going on. I mean, and also what are the people's relationship, like work relationship to each other? If one is a supervisor and one is an employee, like that's a whole privatization, yeah. That's a could be a real big issue.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, if it's two kind of you know, same-level employees, it's still not good. Uh but you know, maybe not as terrible.

SPEAKER_01

Um I can say that I've worked with my kid's father for for about five, six years. And we with with the exception of coming into work, like walking down the, you know, walking from the car at the same time, sometimes, because sometimes it was like a conscious effort. If it was a lot of people outside, a conscious effort for one of us to go and the other one to come out. Not because we're trying to hide it, just because, you know, let's just keep down crack. Trying not to make it a thing. Um, we never hugged, kissed, held hands, anything. We never even argued at work. Uh, one time I was very upset with him, and I and I actually was like, hey, you know, we can still continue to date, but I don't want your stuff at my house. So I got to work extra early because I, you know, I didn't want the drama. Right. I got to work extra early and I folded up all of this stuff so nicely and put it under his desk. Oh and it was hilarious because like we're in a call center environment, works with bank, so we're in a call center environment. And I see him roll back from his desk, and all of a sudden I hear him go, really? Like, oh because we were not on the same team or anything like that. But yeah, but yeah, so yeah, because he didn't realize it. He rolled, he I saw him like pull into his desk, put his headset on, and then he like kicked under, kicked his feet, and he was like, Wait, he looked and he was like, Oh my god, yeah. I I think the people that I was in, I don't think we even talked about things other than work at work. Yeah, I could see that with both of those relationships. Yeah, it's just it was very, like, very professional, and like, you know, it you kind of have to make a point of it of like whatever is happening professional or outside, you know, it is not happening in here, yes. Um because that, you know, oh I think also if other people can see, you know, it's uh it it can make other people feel weird, also, I think. I had um I had a boss that l thinks that uh coupling at work is a great idea. Uh yeah. I don't I think yeah, yeah, him and his wife uh worked together, came in together, different companies, but came in together, and there was some strong PDA shit going on. Yeah. Even one time a nipple grab happened, and I almost uppered each chucker. I mean just because like I don't want I don't want to think about you two people being intimate. I don't want to think of you know, yeah. I wonder if I mean almost that could be almost sexual harassment in you know in itself. Like if they're doing that and it's making other people uncomfortable. Well they don't I don't know if somebody reported them or what, but it definitely came to an abrupt stop. It was a lot like it was kissing in the office. It was not like making out, but like a peck in the office, and they said that where they came from, that people accepted that. And I was like, ooh. I mean, I could see like a peck, but go in much, especially people like no, oh you know, um, because as a person who's also dealt with someone that they've worked with, not um, not work directly, like different departments, different sides of the business, but definitely in the same workspace. Um, there's no first of all, wouldn't it just be more fun for y'all to act like y'all aren't doing anything?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think that'll be fun. Like a little, you know, like kind of role play situation. I mean, if you're into that, but I I do think, you know, it is a bit more, it's a bit more fun, but also there you're I don't know, it's a bit more professional. Um I feel like getting too much into stuff, you know, all of that kind of stuff, maybe is not showing you in the best light, maybe as a leader. Definitely not. That's kind of undermining that if you are if you're a person who's supposed to be in control of a situation, that letting people know that you're in any kind of relationship at work, even sometimes friendships makes you a little more vulnerable. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, and especially, you know, if you're a leader, and this is going into you know, even like the friendship thing, is that one of the dangerous things, right, is that people think that, oh, that person is getting special treatment. Um, and that's when the whole HR situation starts happening. Indeed. Because I mean, you know, and it and it's hard to be to be intimate with someone or to have a you know, to like someone and that person's reciprocating it. Um for you all to work together. Well, especially at the beginning, you know, when they're where you've you still got the butterflies and you know, all that kind of stuff. It it is kind of fun having it be like a a little secret that the two of you share. Yes. Did you know that having butterflies is actually a sign of angst and anxiousness in a relationship that you're not supposed to have butterflies? I mean, okay. Yeah, that makes sense for so many I know. All of a sudden. That's what was wrong. The first, second, and fight. Yeah, yeah. In fact, every time I saw him, I was like, oh my God, I think I'm gonna throw up. And like, no, Bic just not good. I I feel like, yeah, the throw up maybe is definitely not good. Yeah, I don't uh so we've been kind of talking a bit about relationships, like being in a relationship with somebody in the office. What about if you just slept with somebody in the office? And we I know we talked about this a little bit on our holiday, but uh, you know what what do you do in that situation? I mean, I think it's I think it would be about the maturity of the people and the agreement that you have going into it, even though I know that that, you know, if there's ever feelings involved, that that's kind of yeah, everything's kind of out the window. But communication is key. If you are feeling somebody and you uh want to take it to that next level and it's appropriate for the situation, right? When I say appropriate, I mean age appropriate, title appropriate, workplace appropriate, right? If that's uh, and if that's what's happening and it's not a HR violation or violation of your company policy, then um communicate, communicate what you actually want with that person. You know, what what's the end game here? What are we doing? Yeah, is this just like a situation that's on your 2026 bucket list? YOLOing, right? Are we yo lo? Are we are we yo? Yo Lolo, LOL, uh, you know, make sure it's or are we trying to grow and get to know each other, right? You know, and make a relationship out of it and navigate it from there. It's just it's two totally different things, you know. Right now, I feel like I'm 45. Um, but even at 45 years old, for some reason I'm still like stuck in hookup culture, which is crazy. Well, it's you know, let me tell you. Nobody's nobody's like trying to um nobody's trying to settle about it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, Eric Hoffman's great.

SPEAKER_01

It is aliens are coming, they're taking over. You've taken over your computer. Like someone told me in the office the other day, fuck you, Stephen Hawking.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

I would be offended except for I know that's annoying. I'm sorry. I mean, you know, great thinker and all that, but I think he was on Epstein's plane. How? I don't even want to listen, I don't even want to get started. What like what was what Stephen Hawking, what were you doing in there, sir?

SPEAKER_00

Well, Epstein liked to uh I know we're he he liked to keep thinkers close to him and because they gave him legitimacy and they got money from him. So anyway, that's a whole diverse oh god, anyway. So but but I act in it.

SPEAKER_01

That does bring me to another uh question, um, in kind of a weird way. So suppose you are the outsider of something, right? So you're seeing some people doing whatever you're well, you're not like watching because that's creepy. It's just straightforward. You're outside their window and you're like your we knocked. No, but it it seems to come to your attention that maybe something has happened between these two people, right? Now, what if it is not appropriate either age or you know, work uh not that they're really do you understand what I'm asking? Yeah, like if you if you're the person who peeps game, you clock it, you're like, oh, so okay, so A and B are moving a little different around each other. What's that mean? Oh, they brushed, look at the way they brushed up against each other by the water cooler. Yeah, you start to clock what they got going on. I think that um really mind your fucking business, but okay, we know that what if it happened? Yeah, um, I mean, yeah, mind your business, but what if I'm if it's inappropriate and you feel like because I've definitely worked, uh, we worked together in a place where I think that there was an older gentleman that was trying to attempting to have an inappropriate relationship with younger girls by buying them things and things like that. Not so much, I haven't seen the physical part of it. Right. I've seen that. Um, I think that if you feel strongly enough about it and you are offended by it, then you should report it to HR. Um, but sometimes again, I mean, if it's inappropriate, what else do you do? Like you can't come, you're not gonna confront them. That's no, you're not. I mean, yeah, report definitely report it to HR. Um, and as always, keep in mind that HR is not your friend. Nice. They are out to protect the company. And everybody's gonna know you said it, so right. Um, they're they're gonna try to do what's best for the company.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, obviously, if it is a underage person, then something's I feel like gotta be said. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um, if it's a manager and an unlike a subordinate, you know, that could be a bit more of a dicey situation with how it gets handled. Yes, but I mean people will still try. Um from speaking from experience the situation with my kid's father, we were not, I was technically above him at the time. I wasn't a salaried manager yet, I was a team lead, and he was on the phones uh at the time. So we started dealing with each other, and we, you know, we dated for a long time and then we moved in together and no one knew. But then my boss, who was a total cunt muffin anyway, she was like, Hey, I heard you live with such and such. And I was like, Me and such and such live together, yes. And she's like, Well, how long has that been going on? I was like, Excuse me. And she went to HR and HR informed her that because I was a non-exempt employee, and he was a non-exempt employee, that it was fine as long as it's consensual.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I mean because you and I know that it was her, like, people are gonna, if people think that they can, if you if you have somebody out to get you in to to get you in trouble or point out your flaws, they're going to. If it's illegal, if when I say illegal, I mean like illegal by the law or illegal by your company policies, then yes, somebody's gonna tell on you, like, what the hell? Yeah, of course they are. I mean, there's definitely uh, I think the people who even if everything is above board are still like, you know, oh, we've gotta tell, you know, you want to make sure that they're following the policy and all of that. Or not following the policy, right? Or just right, making up shit as they go along because they guess because they're very nosy and they don't have any horizontal happy dancing of their own to do. They gotta disrupt everybody else's, gotta disrupt everybody else. Or a wrench in the game, if you will. Yes, I would say so. Here's another one. What if there is somebody that you have uh recognized as a serial offender? Oof, the workplace player.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

Gosh. I've ran into that too. Not on my current job, but uh call centers. Boy, you work in a call center, you'll see some shit.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Uh this the the serial offender. Man, I'm talking about this dude was offending all over the place. Managers, directors, operation managers, people on the floor. Everybody had a turn on that train. I think, but I could tell you this, he had a really hard, he never got promoted. Uh, this is when I worked for the bank. He never got promoted because he was a serial offender. Well, I mean, yeah. And it was always continuously like when we would have meetings about promoting him, or even putting him in a position where he could act as a team lead or just take on other projects. His serial offending was the first thing brought up all the time. Yeah, well, I mean, at least it was brought up, I guess. Was it mentioned to him? Was it like you know what? I don't know, because I wasn't in the position to say anything to him about it. Right. I mean, yeah, I guess that is kind of a a a lesson, right? If if you think you're being sneaky, you're not being as sneaky as you think. No, especially like with this particular person, uh, it like girls were on top of everything else, was like kind of a competition thing. Like, he uh he worked for me for a little while, and I would have to move his desk because I'm like, how many freaking girls are gonna come plop their ass in front of your face on this floor? Like, what are we doing here? Oh, okay. Yeah, like they would come up and they would like, you know, just to be seen in his day. It was a whole fucking thing. And it was like three dudes on the floor who were serial, yeah. I mean diddlers. What do you do when it starts? It's you know, if it's causing a distraction like that, like how do you mitigate? Well, me per from a management standpoint, I put it on um the person. Hey, I understand that you're popular and all in this high school scenario that is work. However, right, leave it aside. If this is taking away from your productivity or your the quality of your work or your ability to do your job, I will write you up. Like I will hold you responsible for this. Yeah. I mean, but I'm also a little more shrewd because even working in virtual environments, yeah. Um, and when I've worked for other banks in virtual environment environments, I'm also the same person who will uh fail your quality if you don't change the battery in your fucking smoke protector. Right. I'm gonna fail you. Like, what are you actually doing? Yeah, no, that's fair. Yeah, definitely. So I'm that person. But yeah, um I would hold the person accountable. Uh also, you know, if it if it doesn't stop there, then you have to start reaching out to the managers of the people that you see coming around the lurkers, if you will. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that I don't know. I think that a little workplace romance can be could be fun if it's appropriate. And if you if it's not distracting. If it's not hella distracting, too. Yeah. Well, and also if it just not causing problems, right? Yeah. So I mean, it it sounds like in that situation, luckily the girls all kind of knew about each other and it wasn't.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

It was so silly. It was just like, and then this fool had no type. I would just be sitting there trying to figure out like, what kind of girls do you actually even like, bro? Like, there's every single walk of life over here every day.

SPEAKER_00

Are they women?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. That's it. I have my own theory about men who need that much female attention, though. Like, right, right, right, right, right. I mean, yeah, I think it can, it can also, you know, there should be something said for go out and have other friends, but it's also understandable with like how much you work and like how much you're close to this person. Um, you are sharing something pretty direct, which is one of the, I think, kind of one of the nice things, and also maybe not nice things, could be both, with you know, dating somebody that you're working with, and that you can you're talking to them about, you know, specific things going on in the company that directly relate to you, and like, oh, did you see this? Hey, this is what's going on, you know, so forth and so on.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but also it means you're bringing your job home with you. Right. Might be good to have that cut off.

SPEAKER_01

My job is like so all-encompassing that I can't imagine that dating someone who worked with me for real wouldn't just be like overkill of the amount of work information that we would discuss. Oh, there's just a lot. Well, and also, uh, depending on the job and you know, all of that, the two of you might have, you might get enlisted to help in ways that you don't want to. Like waking up at 3 a.m. for things. Oh yeah. Yeah, the like, I don't know, the building not being secured. Yes, yes. Well, and flooding. Well, yes. Well, no, well, I was actually for uh for things that he needed. So, you know, I would have uh be waking up at 3 a.m. so I could give him rides places. Because he had to be at work at, you know, four. Yeah. So, you know, it's it it is one of those things where I think you kind of have to you should make your pros and cons list. And you should always make a pros and cons list. It's so available. Here's the pros, you know, here's the cons. Be honest with your cons. So I guess we're kind of you know, in summary, um we're not saying definitely no. Um, we're not saying definitely yes, but it can get messy, it can get messy, and I think, and especially in a workplace environment, you need to make sure that it's not getting real messy, because that could, you know, it could affect your job, could affect your standing in the company. Um, you know, we're talking livelihoods here, the job market is not good. No, so at the end of the day, people ask yourself before you start to fraternize or start a relationship with one of your coworkers, third-party vendors, um, contractors, or anything like that. Check, check, no, I was not even trying to be funny. Um is the peen or the vagine worth the risk? Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. That is the question. I'm such a oh man, that's a whole other thing that I just thought of. What about what about the uh people who have a significant other at home already?

SPEAKER_01

Oh girl, that's a listen, that's a messy one. We could that's a whole other episode in itself because I've seen all of these strange things happen. I mean, I've even um, you know, my relationship ended like that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, you're right. That might be that might be next episode. Yeah, that's an episode in itself.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so we will leave it there for now.

SPEAKER_01

You struck a nerve with that one. I did. I mean how dare you! It is a touchy subject. It is liter literally.

SPEAKER_00

It's a real touchy subject. It's all kinds of touch. Bad touch, good touch. Oh god.

SPEAKER_01

Well, anyway, any last well, uh, any final thoughts? There we go. I was gonna say last words and trying not to say that. Um yeah, it's just that's that's that's the last thought. Was the pain of the vagine worth the risk? Fair enough. All right.

SPEAKER_00

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SPEAKER_01

And if you would like to email us, you can at that toxiclife at gmail.com. Yes. And everybody stay funky. Yes, and I don't know, man. We're a condom.