The 2026 Potluck Brunch, Part One

The Tofu Trio hosted their first Vegans Talking Shit Potluck Brunch, and Joey made the questionable decision to record an episode in the middle of the chaos. Whether or not this was a good idea is up for debate, but it certainly made for some delightfully shitty audio! On the plus side, if you like your podcasting raw, unique, and at times hard to understand, you're in the right place. In part one of this two-part extravaganza, Joey sits down with fellow junk-food vegan, Stephanie, to discuss the dark ages of being plant-based in mid-2000s Lincoln, Nebraska, and why that region supports more vegans and vegetarians than one might think. They also dive into the science-fiction reality of lab-grown meat. Long-time friend of the show Virginia finally makes her video debut! She shares her origin story—shouting out Gary Yourofsky's influence—and reflects on her transition to veganism. She and Joey then dissect the cultural stranglehold Publix has on Florida and the Southeastern United States before Virginia pivots to her fascinatingly eclectic career in the makeup industry. Finally, Jon joins the show. As per tradition, when Jon and Joey get together, the vegan part of the podcast goes entirely out the window. They discuss Jon's role as one of the event hosts, though we all know Vanessa did most of the heavy lifting. They also cover pickleball, and the ongoing campaign by Jon and Vanessa to get Joey out on the court with them. As the conversation comes to an end, the boys go over the wildly different outcomes of their recent adventures in online sports betting. Tune in next week for three new guests and even more shitty audio!

Vegans Talking Shit is hosted by Joey Di Girolamo, Jon Missirlian, and Vanessa Silva. Main podcast image artwork by Diego Orellana. Theme song "Flying" by TrackTribe. Visit @veganstalkingshit on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube and @vegans.talking.sh on TikTok. Send questions, comments, and topic ideas to veganstalkingshit@gmail.com, and you may get your email read during the show.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:10

Hey everybody, welcome to Vegans Talking Shit. I'm Joey, and this is gonna be something a little bit different. We're actually having our vegan potluck brunch right now. Don't know how the audio is gonna be. For all I know it's gonna be terrible, and I'm gonna have to throw all of this out. But uh yeah, we're gonna actually try to record an episode during this potluck brunch, have some of our guests come on the show and uh talk a little bit about who they are, how they went vegan, what they think of the podcast, if they even really listen to it. Uh but yeah, let's see how it goes. Uh yeah. Yeah. I don't know. This could be a disaster. It could be a total disaster. But also, at least it's something different. Uh I'll hopefully have John and Vanessa on soon, so we'll see how this goes. Hey everybody, this is Stephanie.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Stephanie Hendrix. Hello. All right, where do I think?

SPEAKER_04 1:00

Where do you look? Well, I guess right there.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Just here? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04

Stephanie is vegan, but like me, she's a junk food vegan. So every now and then we talk about our favorite junk food. We just today talked about Gardeen. And uh, yeah, Gardeen's pretty popular, impossible beyond. Um ironically, I think you're in the medical profession, right? Yeah. You're a doctor or something?

SPEAKER_00 1:22

No, I'm gonna be going to nursing school, but right now I help out at Mount Sinai with the anesthesia team and I help out with their biomedical research.

SPEAKER_04 1:30

Okay, you being in the medical field, does that give you pause as far as your eating habits?

SPEAKER_00 1:34

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

No, I mean I didn't go into veganism to be healthy.

SPEAKER_04 1:42

Um I totally feel you.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

I growing up in Lincoln, Nebraska, I didn't even know what vegetarianism was. I guess I never thought that people could even live without me until I got to college, and I finally was in my fourth year at UNL, I took this marketing class, and um, it was where you got set up with um a local business, and you helped them with their marketing. And so um I got set up with a vegan, it was yeah, it was a vegetarian delivery company. Very strange.

SPEAKER_04 2:23

Yeah. And when was this?

SPEAKER_00 2:26

This was, I guess, maybe like 1998.

SPEAKER_04 2:29

Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Yeah. And um in Nebraska. Yeah, so it turns out that Nebraska, well, Lincoln in particular, has a really big um Seventh-day Adventist community.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

Oh, like it's one of the biggest, okay, which I didn't know either. Yeah. And I think we talked about that in the podcast a few episodes back, Seventh-day Adventists are basically vegan or vegetarian.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

They really are, yeah. And so I got set up with her, and what she was doing was she had a big um vegetarian delivery company from her basement, and she would deliver food all over the all over town.

SPEAKER_03 3:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

And Lincoln is like, at that time it was like 250,000, so it was like not small.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

Right.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

And I was like, whoa, you know, and she at that time she was thinking about creating a bricks and mortar store.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Um, and so I was helping her figure out if it was feasible and all this kind of stuff. Um, and so I did a ton of research and I learned, oh, like vegetarian, like you don't need to eat meat. Like, why don't people do this and this and that? And so while I was looking into it, I was like, oh my gosh. I had no idea.

SPEAKER_04 3:34

And you were into it even back then?

SPEAKER_00 3:36

I well, after I learned about it, I'm like, I I love animals, I can't do this.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

Wait a minute, so when did you go vegan?

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Oh, veganism came after I was vegetarian for about six years before veganism. This was in the 90s or like I turned vegetarian in like 2000. Oh and then I went vegan after that.

SPEAKER_04 3:59

So you actually you've been vegan longer than me. I went vegan in 2012.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

So you've been vegan since 2006?

SPEAKER_00 4:05

2006, I believe.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

It was Thanksgiving, I think 2006 or 2007, something like that. Um but yeah, so after I did that, I went vegetarian. And that's like super easy. Um, but at that time they didn't have all they had was the Boca Burgers. Yeah, you know. Um but yeah, and then but the thing is, nobody talked about veganism. Nobody talked about veganism, so I didn't even know what veganism was. Yeah, I was just kind of merrily going along. And then one of my friends who was a vegetarian, she gave me this cookbook, and it was a vegan baking cookbook. And so I looked through it, and then I'm like, oh, what's this vegan thing? And so I researched, I'm like, oh shit. Now I can't do this anymore. So now I'm gonna have to like cut out all this other stuff. And I was so scared because I didn't know if I could do it.

SPEAKER_04 5:02

Well, back then it must have seemed impossible.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Yeah, like I didn't know.

SPEAKER_04 5:07

I don't even think Gardeen was out in 2006.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

No, and I loved sweets, you know, and I loved chocolate, and I loved all these things. I'm like, oh my god, I don't know if I can do this.

SPEAKER_04 5:17

Yeah, there was no vegan cheese. Was Dea out yet?

SPEAKER_00 5:20

There was none of that stuff.

SPEAKER_04 5:21

No vegan cheese, there was no just egg.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

I mean, unless you bought it online, but it was like, and and then so what changed my mind was um there was a little farmer's market, and she was selling all of these vegan, like baked goods, like cupcakes and cakes, some chocolates. And I'm like, oh my god, like this is doable. Yeah, I can do it. And so um the other big thing was that I was like addicted to gummies.

SPEAKER_04 5:49

Oh, gelatin.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Oh, I would I would go and get all these like pounds of gummies at the at the candy store, and I was like, I don't know if I can cut that out. Like, yeah, but I ended up doing it, like I made the decision like at Thanksgiving um that that same year, and I did it, and I was like, you just find alternatives for everything.

SPEAKER_04 6:13

I think a lot of people who are afraid of going vegan, they don't realize that it isn't that hard. I mean, I think that it is hard when you did it in 2006. Harder now?

SPEAKER_00 6:26

It's so easy.

SPEAKER_04 6:27

I mean, there's there's a substitute for everything.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Everything.

SPEAKER_04 6:29

Like literally everything. I I can't believe there's actually a hard-boiled egg that's vegan.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Oh, I haven't tried that yet, but I know. It's like, can you imagine?

SPEAKER_04 6:38

Yeah, it's pretty incredible.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Wow, and I I don't know what you feel about the cultured meat, like the Oh lab grown?

SPEAKER_04 6:46

Yeah. Lab grown meat, uh man. We've we've talked about that on the podcast a few times, and I think I would try it.

SPEAKER_00 6:53

I would totally I'm totally for it.

SPEAKER_04 6:55

Because for me, it's all about the animals. It's right. If no animals are being harmed in any way, then sure.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

Yeah, I think it's more efficient, it's cleaner, it's safer, it's cheaper. But it's banned in Florida, you know that creating it is banned in Florida. Maybe is it selling it also? I think that's so stupid.

SPEAKER_04 7:14

Yeah, there are, I think, a couple of states that have banned it now. It's it's frustrating.

SPEAKER_00 7:18

Um stupid. They just don't want the competition. They don't, it's not that it's even bad, they just don't want the competition.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Um, but yeah, I'm all for that. If if they started creating that, I would eat it. I know a lot of people, vegans, wouldn't, but I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_04 7:35

Yeah, me too. I mean, any anything that could potentially save animal lives, and I think that could.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Yeah, everything about it is better.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

Yeah, I think that there is still a little bit of a stigma to it, and some people will just refuse to eat it. I I remember talking to my mom about it, who's not vegan, but to her, the thought of lab-grown meat is a horror part of the thing.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Yeah, they think it's fake. Yeah, but it's not fake, it's just doing what the animal's body does, but without the brain and the sentience. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 8:05

Yeah. Alright, well, Stephanie, thank you. You've been great.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Yeah, thank you, Joey.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

Anytime.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

Everybody, you might remember this young lady to my left. Yeah, okay. This is Virginia. She's been on the show a few times. She's got a bit of a potty mouth. For that and many other reasons, I adore her. Virginia's amazing. Uh, and probably the most interesting job history I've ever heard of. Uh my mom has listened to the podcast, and she will never use Cetaphil again. Um, you'll have to listen to Virginia's episodes to know why. But yeah, this is your first time on video, actually, for the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

I feel very special.

SPEAKER_04 8:48

You are very special.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_04 8:51

So, one thing I don't think we've ever talked about, even when you were on the show, is when did you go vegan and why?

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Well, I became vegan in 2012.

SPEAKER_04 9:03

When I went vegan.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Yeah, we were like pretty you, I think you beat me by a couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_04 9:07

Maybe. May 12th.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Yeah, mine's uh June 6th.

SPEAKER_04 9:10

I'm sorry, May 20th.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Okay, so yeah, I know because it was like 6'6. Almost six, like the devil. No, and you know, I've never been a big meat eater, you know, I never really cared. I've always loved animals. And I was already thinking about it, and I was on YouTube, and then I came across the Gary Gurofsky best speech ever, and I'm like, what is this? Why is it best speech ever? And I watched it and it was just immediate. It was like a switch in my brain went and that was it. I made the decision and I never looked back. It was like, I just knew it made sense. It's one of the top three best decisions I've ever made in my life. It wasn't ambivalent. The other two, um, the other one was to quit my job and become self-employed.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

Nice, okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

And be my own entrepreneur boss bitch.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

And the third one was to never get married.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

Ah, yeah, I think you're gonna be able to get a chance.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Or have kids or have kids. The marriage part I'm not upset, I'm not against is the children situation.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

Right.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

I needed to retain my youthful figure.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

Well, you've managed to do that.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

I think you joy. But no, but all seriousness, um, being vegan, it made so much sense. Because like the clouds parted and the light came out.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that the the whole vegan thing, and and I've said it a couple times already. Um, I think that people have this illusion that it's really, really difficult. And I know Stephanie went vegan like 2006. Oh wow, it was really difficult back then. But now, now it's and the way I did it was I methodically made a list of everything I like and came up with a vegan option up for it, and I was able to do it. But if I were to be able to do that today, it would be the easiest. And especially now that, like, for me, and I've had non-vegans try an impossible burger, and they say it's indistinguishable from the real thing. And I I don't know. I I just think it's very easy now. And if anybody wants to do it, if they really, really want to, they can and and they should at least try it, you know. I mean, it's it's not that hard.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

Even if you start by like once a week, like meatless Mondays or twice a week, just to get yourself. I did a cold turkey and I didn't even think about the nutrition aspect because the first couple of months, all I did was eat avocado and hummus, and I did get a little sick. I was very malnourished. I just was so horrified by what I saw. It was more like an emotional thing for me. I didn't even, I'm not as methodical as you, I don't plan like you. I'm very uh much of an impulse person. I'm impulse, I go with my heart, and I didn't have any plan. I'm just I'm not gonna eat meat. So once I learned I started to learn about nutrition, things started to turn around for me. But at the time we had like what? Like diet cheese, boca burger, like there were very few options. Very few.

SPEAKER_04 12:11

Yeah, there was no beyond. There's no beyond.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

We had like yeah, like the boca burgers, like all the bean, black bean burgers.

SPEAKER_04 12:18

I think garden had just come out, but it was very hard to find. I don't even think it was at Publix yet. I know I always talk about Publix in the podcast. If you don't live in the southern southeastern United States, like what the hell is Publix? In Florida, Publix is everything, it's everything. Like Publix and Florida go together like peas and carrots, is Forrest Gump would say.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

It's like a sassy, illegitimate child of Kroger with a little Cuban sauce booty shaken sprinkled in it.

SPEAKER_04 12:51

Well, that's Sedanos, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

That's Sedanos. Sedanos has a little bit more. A little bit more of that.

SPEAKER_04 12:56

Yeah. Yeah, like the Pub sub. The sub at Publix is incredible. They do have vegan options. Yep. The meatless turkey sub at Publix is incredible.

SPEAKER_03 13:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

Yeah. Yeah. Um, one of the things that you are very well known for is your makeup business. Um I do follow you on Instagram, and I encourage all of you to follow Virginia on Instagram. Please give them your handles.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Well, I have two for my main. Three, technically. Well, three. Okay. My main one is the makeup artist one as a professional. It's Virginia La Faye. So it's L-E-F-A-Y. That's my main makeup artist. Then I have my vegan one, which is uh one handle blog. And then I'm writing a book called Skin Deep about my adventures as a makeup artist in the adult film porno industry.

SPEAKER_04 13:54

Can't wait to read it.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Which is like I'm writing it. It's been uh it's changed uh perspectives like multiple times, but I finally found a voice and I'm just gonna do it from my voice. I was overthinking it.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

Would you say that you are no longer doing that, or are you still every now and then you go into it?

SPEAKER_01 14:15

I'm no longer doing that. I'm doing like um uh modern take on it. I do work with some OnlyFans people, but it's never like what it was. Like this is like I was doing it in the era when the internet first started to do like streaming of all the porn stars, and I was like in the era of like the incredible LA theme movies with like budgets. Now the porn is more like girl, like more like it's like whatever porn hub. It's more like it's like reality porn. I was like involved in the movies. There were like plots, yes. There were plots and stories for the business. And the girls were beautiful, and they wore makeup and the outfits. It was like really cool when I was in it.

SPEAKER_04 15:03

But you also do work with like I remember a picture of you that you sent me, and it was hilarious because you were next to two women who towered over you. One of them was oh my god, Paige Sam Ban.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

Paige Van, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

And the other one was a female wrestler.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

I forgot her name. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 15:22

Yeah, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Because Paige is my client. I forgot her name.

SPEAKER_04 15:28

Well, it's just you you do work with celebrities and and pretty famous supermodels. And I've seen some of your Instagrams of the incredibly gorgeous women you have worked on, and your work is it it's truly amazing.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

And I'm I'm a guy, so I mean, I I may not be an expert when it comes to makeup, but I can see when something is really astonishing, something's like a fantastic job. And you do a fantastic job, so I encourage all of you to check out her Instagrams. Are you on TikTok?

SPEAKER_01 15:58

I am, but I'm not very active on it, which is something I may want to check. It's overwhelming. Like I go on TikTok and it's like boom, boom, boom, boom. I don't know where to begin. I'm very visually stimulated, and when I see so many things, like it gets overwhelming.

SPEAKER_04 16:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

I find Instagram more streamlined, more yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:16

I mean, I'm I'm probably too old to understand TikTok. My niece is an expert. Um, I I I just I'm too old. I I I think Facebook is more my speed.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

I do not like I mean I have Facebook for like f older family members and for all my I do a lot of like TNR for local cats, like stray cats and stuff. All my you know what do you call it? My networking in the animal community.

SPEAKER_04 16:43

I use Facebook for that, but yeah, that's yeah, but I think your work primarily is on Instagram. On Instagram, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 16:50

Well, Virginia, thank you. I know you have to go.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 16:53

So everyone, check her out on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

And check out vegans talking shit. You obviously are because you're watching right now, but and vote for them. Veg news. It's over. It's over. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Okay, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

Hopefully you both voted for them and hopefully you play.

SPEAKER_04 17:09

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Hey guys, how's it going, John? Good. How are you, Joey?

SPEAKER_04 17:14

I'm good. I'm good. You uh were nice enough to I don't know, loan out your place to this event. I mean, not your place, the building.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

I loaned it out, and but no one paid me money.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

No one paid you money. Uh you and Vanessa tend to be very good hosts at events like this. Uh, we all love it when you have events like this. Um, so what was your contribution? I brought the plates. I'm not gonna cook anything. I brought the plates and and and plastic, or no, paper. No, what was it? Wood. Woods.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

You brought the wood.

SPEAKER_04 17:47

Jesus. Uh yeah, I brought the plates, the cups, the but all biodegradable, all environmental, uh eco-friendly. Uh I think Vanessa cooked uh some carrot cake and baked, I think.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

I don't think you can cake.

SPEAKER_04 18:05

You are correct. Yeah, she baked a funky little carrot cake that didn't taste like carrot, but was really good. Uh you contributed what?

SPEAKER_02 18:14

Uh I helped clean coffee. I I yeah, I brought some coffee from the lobby. Yes. Because we get free coffee from our coffee machine in the lobby.

SPEAKER_04 18:24

That's so good though.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Yeah, they do they do have good coffee.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

Yeah. So I don't know if you realize this, but uh the last episode that hasn't uh been released yet, but by the time this is out, it will have been released. But the last two episodes, you were not in. It was uh hockey day for you.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

Yeah, so it's great to have you back.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 18:48

So what did you do on hockey day? Did you play or just watch?

SPEAKER_02 18:51

Uh hockey day.

SPEAKER_04 18:52

I was that when the USA was that during the Olympics, yeah. But did you play also or you just watched?

SPEAKER_02 18:58

Uh I don't think I played that day. No, I just watched. Um that's when the US beat Canada. Yes. That was their first Olympic gold since 1980.

SPEAKER_04 19:08

The Miracle on Ice.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

Yeah, the Miracle on Ice. Um pretty amazing that they won. Uh they were probably the underdogs barely, but it was it was pretty close.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

Uh actually rooting for Team USA as much as you love Canada, who are you?

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah, I was rooting for Team USA.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Okay.

unknown 19:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Um I do love Canada. Oh, I just I love hockey so much. Yeah. And uh Canada's the the birthplace of hockey. Yes. So yeah. It was early here because the Olympics, as you know, are in Italy. And the game was at uh I think it was at like two or three o'clock in Italy. So here it was at like eight in the morning.

SPEAKER_04 19:49

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

So it started fairly early. And I heard, you know, on on you know, in California and uh you know, like British Columbia and Canada, uh, it started at 5 a.m. So I heard a lot of people out there literally drank through the night. Jesus. And uh yeah, because you know.

SPEAKER_04 20:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

It's what they do in Canada.

SPEAKER_04 20:13

You make it sound like Boston, man.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Oh, they drink a lot in Boston, too.

SPEAKER_04 20:17

Oh, I know, I know. Uh another sport you've gotten into, and you are on your way to getting me into it, is pickleball. I did watch a couple of videos that uh did you buy a racket yet? I have not bought a racket yet. I spoke to Brad about the racket that he bought, and um I will probably buy a cheaper one, and then if I end up liking it, I will you know splurge for a more expensive one.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

I think his racket was$19. Yeah, that sounds like it's gonna go cheaper than 19?

SPEAKER_04 20:46

No, I think 20 bucks is a good price for you know first timer.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

I think so.

SPEAKER_04 20:50

I used to play racquall a lot, I was really into four-wall racquetball. I was pretty good. But from what I saw in the video, pickleball is very different, it's closer to tennis and maybe ping pong than than racquetball.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

Uh it's like a giant ping pong table.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

You don't move much. Well, you were watching you watched our videos, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_04 21:12

Yeah, you were playing in the rain.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

We were playing in the rain, yeah. And we were playing singles mostly, so you're moving around more.

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Right.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

But I see doubles more popular, and uh, you know, you don't move around that much. It's a very easy sport.

SPEAKER_04 21:25

Would you say that it's uh like aside from the size of the port, it's basically tennis, just smaller.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

The rules are a little different. You can't score points unless you're serving.

SPEAKER_04 21:41

That's how it is at tennis.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

No, you can score a point when you're not surfing.

SPEAKER_04 21:44

Oh yeah, 15 love, 1530.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So um if I'm serving and you you know you get it over the net and I miss it, you get the serve.

SPEAKER_04 21:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

So technically we could go on forever if we just keep what typically is the the cap?

SPEAKER_04 22:06

Like 15?

SPEAKER_02 22:06

11.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

11. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

So it's a lot shorter game than tennis. Yeah. It's like ping pong, but ping pong's to 21. But with ping pong, you can score every doesn't matter if it's your serve or not.

SPEAKER_04 22:19

And does it have to have the two-point differential?

SPEAKER_02 22:22

It does, yes. I think. I just kind of learned the rules too. I've only played twice. But you've yet to lose. I'm not playing very good players.

SPEAKER_04 22:30

Well, you played your wife, I believe. Yeah, she's not Brad.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

She's not a good athlete.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

Well, she she's a more of a well, maybe not now, but she was a motorcycle rider. She was, yes. Depending on how you ride the motorcycle, that can be a sport, but I've got to play that way. Yeah, I haven't done anything athletic in a while. I wish I could go back to running. But pickleball could be something I can get into. I can I can see myself doing that. So I do want to play you at some point. Uh I we should probably place a bet as to who will win. Money?

SPEAKER_02 23:06

You might beat me if you played racquetball for years. You might beat me.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

I haven't played racquetball in decades, but when I did play, I played for years. Um but yeah, I I'm sure I'm terrible at it, but I do want to you know place a bet just because it'll make it more interesting to me. Nothing big, like maybe a dinner. Dinner. Yeah, dinner, sure. Dinner's good. Nothing like you know,$800. I'm not a gambler.

SPEAKER_02 23:31

Are you a gambler? Not really.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

Yeah, me neither. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

I kind of used to be. I mean, I I I really enjoy sports betting, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

I also got me into that hard rock.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Uh oh, you were betting with me.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

Yeah, and I kept losing. You were winning, and I was you would bet on obscure table tennis.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

I bet on ping pong.

SPEAKER_04 23:52

And you would win, and I would do that. Well, what the hell? I'll try. And I kept losing. I just kept losing. I was pouring money into this thing until it was like, you know what, John? I can't.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

I think it's so crazy how easy it is to gamble now.

SPEAKER_04 24:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

It wasn't like that when we in our younger years. It wasn't like that 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

And I think that was my problem. It was so easy that I kept putting money into it and it was like I had to end it cold turkey.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

And you could just live bet anytime. Like it's just like we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

Or they'll give you like, we'll give you five dollars so you can bet by the game. I give you bonuses, but then when you lose, it's like you don't you can't then it I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

And it's not five dollars, they give you like fifty dollars or a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Yeah, but there's that catching the house always wins. House always wins for sure. But what was the the app you used? What was it called?

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Hard rock.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

It was a hard rock app.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Yeah, it's the hard rock casino in um Hollywood, Florida.

SPEAKER_04 24:46

That might be a Florida only app, maybe, I think.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Um well, yeah, it's connected to that casino, but I think you can be anywhere in Florida and use it. Okay, obviously.

SPEAKER_04 24:58

Okay, yeah. So, John, this this was this was enlightened. This was amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Thank you for having me, Joey. On Vegans Talking Shit.

SPEAKER_04 25:06

The vegans talking shit.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

Do we have to hot luck brunch? Do we have to give our ending like how we normally do?

SPEAKER_04 25:12

Maybe like all right, thanks bye kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

Thanks bye, everyone.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

Bye, everyone.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

Ciao. Have a good day.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

Oh, Jesus. All right, everyone. We're gonna end this here. This is the end of part one. Tune in next week for part two. Uh, and yeah, see you next week. More guests. Yeah, more footage from the vegan stalking ship hot love brunch. Bye, everyone.