Exploring the BMW R1300GS Adventure: Insights from Enthusiasts in Motorcycle Sales

In this episode of the Throttle Stop Moto Podcast, hosts Justin Bethune and Jeff Griffith welcome back Hunter McCandless to discuss the intricacies of motorcycle sales, specifically focusing on the BMW R1300GS Adventure. The trio emphasizes the unique advantages of their dealership's sales team, which comprises knowledgeable enthusiasts who have firsthand experience with the products they sell, providing valuable insights to customers.

The conversation dives into the features and specifications of the R1300GS Adventure, highlighting its premium configurations, including advanced rider aids, adaptive cruise control, and the versatile Ride Modes Pro, which allow for customizable riding experiences. They also explore the touring and dynamic packages, discussing options such as GPS preparation, electric windshields, and the importance of weight distribution when accessorizing the bike for long trips.

Listeners learn about the appealing aesthetic options available, like the 719 package and Forgenduro wheels, while the hosts share personal insights into the riding experience, including the handling of the bike in off-road situations. They also touch on maintenance intervals and emphasize the benefit of included services, aiming for a comprehensive understanding of the motorcycle ownership journey.

The episode wraps up with an invitation for audience engagement and community rides, showcasing the dealership's commitment to customer involvement and practical riding experiences.

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Transcript

Welcome to the Throttle Stop Moto Podcast brought to you by Pandora's European Motorsports.



 I am one of your hosts, Justin Bethune.

 Jeff Griffith and I brought with me today,

 Hunter McCandless. Again, welcome back, brother. Thanks for having me back. Yeah, man. We love having you here.

 So you've been sales manager for a while. How's it going?

 It's going really well. I enjoy the new position and getting to meet everybody and looking forward to the future for sure.

 Yeah.

 And we've got Justin and Jeff and sales and they're both, I would say, almost new to the sales department because they've both been involved before. Jeff particularly was, you know, that was his main role for a while, but they've also both been in service, which is kind of a weird dynamic. So is there something in particular that that brings to the sales force that we don't have in other dealerships?



 I think it brings, we have an understanding when we're talking about solutions or what you expect out of the motorcycle or what your goals are with your motorcycle adventures and or endeavors to curtail the motorcycle to fit all those needs that we understand what needs to happen on the front end as well as the back end to set you up for success.



 So there were some big words in there like curtail and it's hard for me.



 But so just to summarize, because we know the service side of it, it kind of brings some knowledge into it. So like, if you're wanting to use it for a certain purpose, we can, you know, recommend some things as far as the, you know, some preventative things. Like if you're going to go bury your bike in mud, maybe we want to have a rain cover. Maybe we don't want to use the ventilated air box, things like that, that, you know, we're definitely going to be more aware of as far as giving caution to the customer.



 Yeah. And I mean, we all ride.

 Yeah.



 Justin, Jeff, myself, as well as Matt, everybody to dealership rides, which I think really we all bring our our experiences and that sets us apart from everybody else is that everybody's an enthusiast. It's in the shop.



 That makes a big difference. And I think we've talked about that before.



 If you compare it to like a car dealership, especially a hiring car dealership with y'all being BMW and Ducati, the higher end bikes, if you go to a higher end car dealership, typically the salesmen are not.



 They can't afford the car that they're that they're selling. So it's a whole different thing. So when you have questions, it's not coming. The answers are coming from a brochure and from test drives, not from actually like living with the car where you come and you talk to you guys. It's there's somebody in there that owns pretty much every bike that you're looking at that you can actually talk to. Yeah. And so that makes a huge difference when you're trying to make a decision.

 Yeah. And this what we're going to talk about today, I brought this R1300GS adventure in here.

 Beautiful bike. I love it.

 I say that a little tongue in cheek that the R1300GS adventure couldn't fit through the door. So as I refer to this, definitely not enough. It was delivered.

 It was delivered here.

 We brought it here.



 Jeff waited till he got here to measure to see how hot it was.

 It's a short journey. So forgive me.

 But it was a monsoon.



 It's been raining for two and a half days straight. And you got to load and unload two bikes yesterday.

 You know, I heard 36 inch door. I thought 40 inches could fit through the door.



 But there's actually only 32 inches there to play with. So anyway, those are 36 man inches, apparently.



 We're gonna have to install new doors at the studio just for the

 But this lovely F900GS does fit through the door. We're just not talking about it today. So as I refer to the bike behind me, it is now an R1300GS adventure. It is a identifies as a 13. Herakarum green.



 I believe that's Karakoram.

 We've been debating about this. I'm not really sure how to pronounce it. We're putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable here. Karakoram. Yeah. What? That's what I'm going with. Okay, there's a third option.



 Vote in the comments.

 But it's Mongolian. Apparently that was a city in Mongolia at some point. But I'm going with avocado, very avocado. We're gonna go. They actually it's really weird. They have that particular name on here. But if you look at the build list, it'll tell you that is the Aurelius green metallic matte.



 So you kind of get both. It's really weird how they have this done. I don't really know why they do that.

 Doesn't matter what you call it. It looks good.

 Yeah. So I wanted to talk about that bike in particular. But as we get into it a little more deeply, we're going to talk about how it is built out and how to do your own build out using the BMW configurator. And I wanted to caution customers whenever you're using the configurator. The way it's set up isn't exactly perfect. And just because you can build it doesn't mean that it can actually be done. So definitely talk to us on the final thing. We're going to talk about some of those things that just don't match up.



 So before we get into the R1300GS adventure is one thing that, you know, at the shop, we haven't got anybody that is a dealership employee that's on one of these yet. We've all kind of written it. We've written both the automatic version and the quick shift option.



 But Hunter here has the R1250GS adventure, which is the predecessor to that.



 We can kind of talk about some of the differences and things that he's excited about if and when he decides to upgrade or whatever.



 But do it. Yeah.



 So yeah, anything to say before we get into that?

 I accept all and any donations to our 1300GS adventure.



 Yeah. You have to go fund me. You can go fund me. Yeah.



 We need one for every employee here. Don't take it all.



 But looking at the R1300GS adventure, we have what we have. I brought this with me and this is what we see as the dealership. And we're happy to share all of this. The particular build out that we have on this one, it totals about $32,895. Exactly. Not about.



 So this is one of the most expensive builds that you can do. And it's because it's so highly outfitted.



 So we want to talk about all these different things, the premium package, what that means as we go through and then we have the touring package, dynamic package, option style, the style option 719. A lot of these things could be pretty confusing as a customer as you're going through the configurator and kind of figuring out what you want, because there's a huge difference between a GS trophy with an enduro package versus the Aurelius green metallic, the option 719 option bikes.



 So we're going to talk about a little bit of that. So without further ado, I guess let's just get into it. We have the premium package and that starts with the headlight pro and that's pretty much on everything. There's not a GSA that's built that I know of that doesn't have the headlight pro. What is the headlight pro? Headlight pro is just a headlight that has better projection. It's an LED headlight. Yeah, that big X. And it's just made to project a little better. And they don't really have an option to go without it. So it's kind of weird that it's on this build list option, right?



 And then you have the riding assistant. This is where things kind of get more, more confusing because riding assistant doesn't really mean anything to me as a customer until you start really researching it. And you're looking at the, that's all your sort of rider aides that you would expect. Like if in the car you have adaptive cruise control, this also has the adaptive cruise control lane change warning. You have front collision warning and like with that you get haptic warnings.



 And so with all these haptic, like that was something that was surprising to me because I'm used to like haptic feedback with like a game controller or something like that.



 They're actually using brake pressure to do that.



 So they're going to like gently hit the brakes a little bit more for you to like let you know, hey, you need to do something right now. And it's kind of, that's kind of like if you're not paying attention to like a front collision warning, it's going to anticipate that and hit the brakes as you are about to approach that.



 So like it or hate it.



 I mean, that's a great question.



 I think it's something I would, in my, the way I ride my GS Adventure and I do like to do the long distance and travel the adaptive cruise. Oh yeah. Nice on the, some of the long longer super slab sections.



 But then again, you know, not relaxing too much where I'm still focused on what's going on because, you know, I think generally speaking, if you ride a motorcycle on the street,



 you know, you got to be pretty heads up and situationally aware. I just think it, I don't think it'll affect that at all, but I do think it'll allow you to relax a little bit.



 What it's done for me is on the Ducati, having the adaptive cruise control is on the longer trips. It helps with fatigue because you're not constantly, you know, slowing down, speeding up, you know, obviously having cruise control helps a ton. But then you add that adaptive cruise control because like one of the issues with just having regular cruise control on a bike is you're typically going to be moving faster than the majority of the traffic. So you're constantly having to on and off. You're either having to hit the brakes or slow the cruise control down. And then every time you hit the brakes or let off the throttle, it completely, you know, engine brake slows way down. Then you're having to speed back up and you're having to reset it and everything. And like on an eight hour day, that gets exhausting, especially if you're on the interstate a lot. So having that adaptive cruise control lets me actually be able to pay attention more to just the cars around me and not all my hand controls and everything.

 Yeah. And I can see like a room for a little bit of laziness, negligence, whatever you want to call it. As you get using the adaptive cruise control, you're approaching cars, the bike slows down for you. And you're kind of like out of it a little bit and you get a little bit more subject to that road hypnosis that happens and you're looking around. So like I kind of like that this includes things like the lane change warning. So like it'll warn you if you're if you're starting to veer out of your lane because I could actually see myself like I'm passing by a beautiful mountain looking up to the red light, you know, and you're kind of get out of it in those scenarios. So having a lane change warning, I think, is pretty helpful.



 And then it also forces

 you to use your blinkers.

 Yeah.

 So when you hit your blinker, it won't come on when you're changing lanes. But if you change your lane, if you change lanes a lot without using your blinkers, it's going to yell at you.

 Yeah. Yeah. I haven't experienced that actually. I need to test that out on this new GSA. But I think all that's pretty cool. And then the the front collision warning.



 That's great to have.

 Yeah. So I want to kind of explain what it does is that it is going to it's going to hit the brakes gently. They never want to. They don't have a system that makes the bike completely stop where some other

 other brand gives you a split second extra time to where to where most of the time you're not ending up in a complete emergency braking situation. Yeah. It's happened to me a couple of times.



 You know, not in the same system, but it's kind of the same idea. And so it was a situation to where someone stopped short in front of me and it, you know, it slows down and applies the brakes, but it's not enough to where if it wouldn't have happened, I still could have stopped by the time I saw what was going on. But it would have been an emergency braking situation. Right. But with that hitting it just a split second quicker, I'm able to get on the brakes and come to a normal stop. Yeah. Without taking a chance on dumping the bike or screeching tires and, you know, doing stuff like that. So it's definitely nice to have to give yourself that extra just split second.

 Yeah. And I've test rode like the 1290 Super Adventure and it's had some of this adaptive cruise. It was a little more wooden back then because they're at this point, they're a little bit.



 They're the earliest innovators that don't have the benefit of the other guys coming first. So they're a little less advanced than what we have with the BMW. But it was very for that one, it was a little sudden. So I think that as you go from it to the multi-strata to the BMW, you get where it's more gentle. But they have a second phase to it. And that's the haptic feedback. And this front collision warning is where that haptic feedback is going to pulse and kind of alert you wake you up.

 It also pulses the rear brake, right, to alert the people behind you that you're the light. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And it also has a rear detection, correct?



 This one didn't have the rear crash detection. Okay. That package or the right? That package doesn't have it with the riding assistant. Another package. And then another thing was the overtake assistance. So like if you're coming behind somebody in the right lane and you make that move to the left lane and they start to also kind of veer over there, it'll flash the light at them.

 Oh, nice.

 Which that one kind of is like one thing, like I would I would automatically have like done that myself or honked or yelled or whatever.

 I don't like those are the two things that I in the moment can never find is my horn and my high beams. Whatever you're freaking out. Yeah, I don't know why, but I can never find the horn or the high beams in that situation.

 I mean, I will preemptively like if I see something that I guess I'm on alert, I cover the horn and the lights like instinctively.

 I'm usually going more for the break or the gas to either get out of the way or.

 And I also think too, it helps, you know, having like auxiliary lights. And when I honk my horn at the my auxiliary light strobe as well. Oh, that's cool. You really get somebody's attention,



 which is really nice.



 Yeah, that strobe is really nice. If you're ever looking at like clear water lights, that's what you talk about. They they have a lot of systems that that really like you can really customize it for what you want to do with that bike. And so I talked to talk to Terry in parts about that. He definitely can help you walk through all that or Hunter here as well.



 I forget you came from parts, too, and you have that stuff. So that that's another thing that bringing people that came from other departments into the sales department really helps because you could be a salesman and not be completely educated about your product and get by. Right. Like you could read the brochures. You could do all that like he was saying. But if you've really experienced and had to help other people with parts and service, that really comes into it.



 And of course, riding the bike as much as you have.



 Anything else before we move on to the touring package?

 Let's do it.



 That stuff's new. That stuff that we just talked about is something that not all of us has really had a lot of real world experience with yet.



 But as we do, we're excited to experience some of that.



 Touring package is the next little section here. It has the GPS preparation,



 the which that's just the plug in for the for the GPS unit that they have right now. They've gone to the BMW connected ride cradle. They have the nav six that you could still plug into that, but that's no longer offered through BMW.

 Correct. It's compatible with any of the previous BMW branded navigations that you might currently have as well as the current connected ride.



 And I've talked enough. So what's the benefit to having the navigator five from BMW or the connected ride?



 So I guess you got nav five and you have the nav six, which would have been the last current model. And then you've got the connected ride. So the newest connected ride, it does. It is nice. It's got a lot of functionality. Everything is Wi-Fi based. So all the updates and everything, you don't have to plug that device into a computer. Anymore to update, it'll automatically update you or automatically alert you when to update when you're at home. You can do it via Wi-Fi. So everything's over the Internet. Yep. As well,



 you can on the BMW, you go from the phone to the connected ride to your helmet, and you can actually control the volume for your Cardo and Orsina through the scroll wheel. Yeah. Through the Wonder Wheel, as well as, you know, answering phone calls, making phone calls. You know, you have access to all the amenities that you ride with without having to take your hands off the controls at all. You never have to take your hands off the controls. So like, you know, if I'm out on a Saturday and, you know, my mom calls, it shows up on the screen that my mom's calling so I can answer the phone and hang up, or I can, you know, make a phone call. It's really nice. And then your music, you're allowed to go in and skip or go to a different playlist, and you never have to, you know, take your eyes off the or your hands off the controls.

 Yeah, that's awesome. And I was helping a customer last week with the connected ride cradle that he's putting on a non TFT bike. And I think that's one of the best uses for it. If you've got like an older GS 1200,



 you could put this on that bike and have most of the features that you get with the TFT display with like navigation and the connection connectivity with your phone.



 So that makes it a lot.



 It makes it a really good accessory for those guys.



 One thing I want to mention too, is like if you do have it hooked up to your phone, it will give you live traffic data in conjunction with the Tom Tom GPS. So like we were talking about the nav six, it was based off of Garmin,



 which basically same as the Zumo systems, except for the way you use the Wonder Wheel and the connectivity with BMW.



 But this one's based off of Tom Tom, just different to who you're using. But that way it could have the traffic traffic data, but also not lose the maps whenever you start, you know, getting outside of cell phone data. And that's the goal, right? We want to get outside of cell phone data.

 Yeah, that's part of my experience is I want to be where the cell phones don't work. Yep.



 It's one takes satellite phone with her. Yeah, you gotta have it. If I need to get some text messages out or a phone call, I can tether to the Garmin.

 Yeah.



 The next thing we have, it's just a chrome exhaust pipe. It's shiny. We know what chrome is. I don't think we really need to talk about that. This particular bill that we're looking at here has the electric adjustable windshield.



 And so that's really cool for me because there's sometimes like you're going fast, depending on who you are as a rider. You might want a little more wind protection.



 For me, if I'm going fast, I want to kind of tuck down and lower the windshield. But that just depends. Like I think most of the riders are going to be on the GSA are going to be upright. They want that wind protection. And then say you're going off road. You definitely want to get that windshield out of the way. I learned that the hard way.



 I kind of got a little huck a buck on my 1290 one time and I ate the windshield.



 I think we've all done that.



 We've all done that. So yeah. Were you wearing like, did you have your visor up with goggles on?

 No, no, no. I had full face. I had my climb on. The helmet took the brunt off.

 It did. I had my visor open when it happened to me.

 Oh, no.



 Then you get the center stand and the aluminum pantier mounts. All that's pretty self-explanatory with the touring package.



 Also, as part of the premium package, this is all part of the premium package, touring and the dynamic package.



 You get Ride Modes Pro. Yes. I want to talk to you about that specifically because you know exactly what all that is. You've used it.

 Yes. So Ride Modes Pro allows more user interface and rider interface into the modes. It gives you some selectability. So you can actually go in to the menu and select if you want the wheelie suppression to be turned down or turned up, how quick the throttle response is, what the TC is doing. You can kind of curtail it to whatever your preferences are.

 If you're wanting to be more aggressive like the Dynamic Pro, you can turn all that down and allow for some wheel spin.

 Yes. Yeah, you can make it more of a one-to-one throttle, a little bit of wheel spin, make it pretty sporty. And it's really nice to be able to go in and make those changes.



 And make it more individual versus pre-programmed, you know, what the engineering department and R&D department decided was good.



 And it's part of the Ride Modes Pro to get the Dynamic Mode anyway, but the Dynamic Mode is a non-adjustable. It has more aggressive throttle.



 It does allow for more aggressive braking.



 One thing they talk about in their literature is that it has a rear wheel lift control. So it's not allowing the rear wheel to lift up off the ground. You can allow for a little bit of that if you wanted to.



 And then it delays traction control intervention. So you can take that even further when you get into Ride Modes, the Dynamic Pro, and then we have Enduro Pro.

 Correct.

 Yeah, and Enduro Pro basically allows for the rear wheel to lock up. It's got very lit. It's got some ABS on the front, but it's not very much. Yeah. It's more to help stabilize the motorcycle.



 And, you know, you can spin the rear wheel so you can actually steer the motorcycle with the throttle, which is counterintuitive as it sounds. It's easier to ride the motorcycle with less aids off-road than it is with more aids. At least I find that the aids hinder the performance of the motorcycle and the rideability versus enhance it.

 I think that if we've... Anybody who's had a lot of off-road experience, you've rode with that guy who forgot to turn his traction control off going out in the woods. He's trying to climb a hill and it's... Not quite making up the hill. I can repeat that if you wanted to hear that.

 Are you looking at me?



 Do I look like the guy that would be doing that?

 No, no, no, no. You have a lot of off-road experience. I have a ton.



 I have a lot of experience hitting the dirt.

 Yeah.



 (Laughter)



 Has anybody done the math on how many total different combinations there are? Yes. In the settings?

 I think there are 52 pages of data that I could have brought in here.



 And that's with descriptions of everything. There's a lot of different combinations you could do, but BMW does limit that. We're going to talk about that when we get talking about the...

 No, I'm talking about the settings in the bike. The settings on that. The traction control and the enduro.

 Sorry, I misunderstood.



 Somebody has to have done the math by now.

 I mean, it feels

 like there's like a 100,000 different total combinations.

 Something that's new for the GS adventure, the 1300 GS adventure, is they have what KTM calls MSR, the Motor Slip Regulation. They call it the Engine Drag Torque Control. So what that does, it adds a little bit of throttle back into it. If you're under heavy braking, if you're gearing down, and it's not going to allow the rear wheel to hop as much. So with enduro pro mode, you could actually limit how much that intervenes as well, so that you don't lose traction going into a corner.



 Or you can choose to lose more traction going into a corner and have it set up for exactly what you want. Like you said, the aids sometimes get in the way.



 And I've written in off-road mode versus having ABS completely turned off. I'll tell you, I like off-road mode. Like it works really, really well. And I don't think that a lot of people will be bemoaning that



 they want to be able to turn everything completely off. It's not necessary.

 I mean, it's really impressive. We were at the BMW Performance Center in Greer, South Carolina, and they do an exercise. They've got a large gravel lot. And we're in fourth gear, like on the power. And you go to the cone and just clamp the brakes. And they do it in enduro pro. And you would be amazed at how fast those motorcycles come to a stop with a little bit of technique and a big 500 plus pound motorcycle. On gravel. On gravel. Yeah. How well it stops. It's really impressive in its eye opening.



 And they're impressive. I mean, it really does.



 The size of the motorcycle can be intimidating.



 Just the sheer volume of it. But when you actually get on top of it and ride it, it's really a cool thing.

 Yeah, the size could definitely be intimidating. It's way more capable than we say. Like we think.

 Oh, it's totally underestimated.



 While we're talking about it, this is 593 pounds is the bike. And that's ready to go. And it's actually gained a couple pounds from what the previous year models were, the 1250.



 I will say that's a statistic that you just read on paper because they're comparing standard models to standard models. There are several pieces of equipment that come on this bike that didn't come on the previous generation. I would venture to say that by the time you have all these built out,



 this is going to be lighter than the 1250 was.



 This one is standard equipment comes with heated grips,



 tire pressure monitoring system,



 the keyless ride,



 and then running lights and the dynamic ESA.



 And what is DCC?



 I can't remember.



 See, that's the dynamic cruise control.

 Yes.

 So, yeah, all these acronyms get really complicated.



 They do.



 But, you know, it coming with more things from the factory, it makes a big difference in weight.



 I just want to kind of say that like the engine itself is 14 pounds lighter. It's aluminum frame like it's going to be lighter. But the specs don't tell that story.



 Moving on, if you already.



 So you have an option at this point after the ride modes pro, you can either go with the automatic shift assistant, which is the build out that I have on this bike, or the gear shift assist pro. And so I think everybody is pretty much familiar with the gear shift assist pro.



 It's the same as it's been for several generations of bikes now. Yeah.



 That's the quick shifter. Yeah, just quick shift.



 I think that everyone here probably would go with that.



 For the most part. Yeah. Now, I will say that if I was going clear across the country, I can see where automatic would make a huge difference, especially when you're talking about adaptive cruise.



 Yes, and I think so the ESA, so the ASA bike or the automatic shift assist, just so I don't have to say the full thing. The acronyms. On the ASA bike, you've got a manual mode and you've got a standard drive mode, just like, you know, in your basic passenger car, right? You just put it in D essentially,



 twist the throttle,



 and the bike's going to, bike control units are going to decide when to shift. They are going to adapt to your riding style over some time. So, you know, when the bike's new, it may not exactly shift.



 It's going to take some adaptation time. Yeah.



 In that it is the same. It does have a clutch, so it's not an automatic transmission. It's automatic shift assist. Right. So the control units are only controlling the shifting and the releasing and engaging of the clutch. So it still has a clutch. It is not a DCT or dual clutch set up like some of the other automotive and motorcycle markets have. It is still a clutched bike. It's just the computer is controlling those.

 It has it. Just none of lever. Correct.

 And then you can go to manual and you can still shift, just like it was a shift assist pro bike as well. So you can manually shift the bike.

 Yeah. It still has a clutch?

 No.

 No, it doesn't.

 It has a clutch, just not a clutch lever.



 So, yeah, it's a big empty space there. It's kind of funny whenever you first see people like on the showroom, get on the bike, and they reach over there, there's nothing there. There's like a

 few moments. Where's my comfort zone?

 Yeah.



 That's the thing. I think that I say that most of us would choose that. And I think it's just because it's a comfort place for us. And if you're getting into the mind of the customer, you kind of have to divorce ourselves from like having all this experience, having all of our preferences that we grow up with, and think about it from the standpoint of the customer and what they're actually going to be using it for. And I think that you probably had the same sort of thing happening in the automotive industry whenever they came out with automatic transmissions. And everybody wanted to be on their thing that they could manually shift. And now anybody could drive a car and don't have my pride anymore.



 Yeah. And they've gone over to tractor trailers. But you remember when Dodge Ram came out with the turn knob shifter, everybody freaked it because like guys didn't have a place to rest their hand. You know, it's like, it just people were used to either having a stick here or a column shift. And it's weird. So I mean, that's, I think it's just like a weird comfort thing. Like you just, you get used to it. And I think it's an accessory idea for man in the box. It's like a dummy, a dummy clutch lever, just so you can have a place to rest your fingers.

 A finger rest.



 But I also think on the positive side, you know, if you have issues with, you know, if you've got some mobility issues or, you know, you deal with arthritis or some sort of, you know, physical limitation, all you've got to do is twist the throat. Like there is no input. I mean, you still have to, on your right hand, you still have the front brake and the rear brake.

 Yeah. But think about how many people like get limited by traveling on a bike like this, because they're at a point to where physically they can't like start on a hill. You know, like with something like this, that makes that a non-issue.

 And that's another thing I thought about as far as newer riders. The biggest thing I see with newer riders are they will start on a hill. They will stall the bike and fall over. Like they don't have massive crashes. People are always thinking you're going to crash your bike. Yeah, you're going to crash your bike. Usually in the parking lot. Yeah, it's going to be a parking lot crash. It's going to be just looking silly in front of your friends.



 But newer riders, newer riders for off-road. So people who aren't used to actuating a clutch, it does have an off-road application.



 And you can see this in a lot of the videos that have been out there where some people will argue that you can handle it better off-road.



 But you know, it depends on who you are.



 And then you have the people who are just going clear across the country. And for me, that's just one less thing to worry about. And it's a comfort thing. I think that automatic bikes are here to stay. I think they'll be here for a while. And I think we'll see some. We'll see a lot more people go for it.

 I'd have to do a trip on one to be able to determine. Yeah, I mean, I can definitely see the benefits to it.



 Because like when you're traveling on a bike, you're not out there like hammering, you know, trying to go as fast as you can. You're not like riding like a fool. You're you're not really riding for the sake of having fun riding. You're riding to have that form of transportation from one stop to the next. And I mean, we're talking about earlier, like when you're traveling like that, you're typically looking around like you're out in beautiful places. You're trying to get away from everybody. And so if you're not having to worry about all that stuff, you're you're less likely to drop the bike. You're less likely to be distracted on while you're traveling through and trying to look at something. And you're especially off-road. I mean, like how many people that are going to buy this bike are actually at a skill level to where having a clutch is actually going to make a difference off-road for them to where they can actually use that, you know what I'm saying? Like to their benefit.

 And you see a lot of people go for like a recluse clutch. Even off-road riders, they want to avoid using that or avoid the stalling possibility at least.



 It's a different technique whenever you talk about like you're going up a hill, you want to slip the clutch. And that's the thing where the ASA is going to gear down. It's just going to do something different. And there's not another action for you to go down there and start in clutch and shift gears that you'd be worried about on a standard off-road bike if you were going to try to make this hill. So we do that because we're trying to make the hill in a taller gear. So we'll slip the clutch to be able to get up it. But the ASA is going to do those shifts for you.



 9 out of 10 times the bike's going to be smarter than you anyways. I don't know. For 9 out of 10 riders.

 Yeah, okay.



 I'm not forming an opinion on it until I actually ride the bike in the off-road situation. Right.



 Because I'm open to it. Like the technology is there. I think it could be really, really good. But I just, I don't have the experience with it to form an opinion yet. Right.

 And I think that at this point, all we can do is theorize and try to put ourselves in that situation. I think most of the guys who are going to go for it aren't going to be your serious off-road guy. I mean,



 for the most part now at least. I do see where it could be useful. I see where it could be an advantage for some people, especially people who didn't grow up using it.

 I think it would be useful for me. Like a guy like me off-road on a bike that size. It would be useful.

 Yeah, because you haven't had a lot of that kind of experience.

 Yeah, so I can focus more on just actually what I'm doing. The speed and technique and everything.



 Like for me, not having the clutch is just the fun factor really. It's not like a performance thing. It's not like a utility thing. It's just, it's when I do want to go out and bang the gears, like that's fun. So like literally that's the only difference that it would be for me at all. So I'm kind of for it, which I never thought I would say. Because I'm the kind that it's like save the manuals.



 One thing I will say, it's also a anti-theft device because you can put it in park and if the key is not with it, you can't move the bike.

 That's true.



 Plus people will be really confused.

 I found that out on the showroom whenever we had some service guys pull a bike around and...

 You can't just pull the clutch in and roll it around.

 So that actually ends the stuff that's kind of like pretty much standard on everything. I mean, apart from the ASA, the automatic shift, all those are pretty standard in the premium package. Now the spike retails originally at .22745 before we add anything to it. That's a number you're never going to see in a motorcycle dealership. I don't think we've had a single one that wasn't a premium package. Then the next option is the sports break, which is a Brembo break. I've never seen one that didn't have a sports break on it.



 So yeah, those are things you're rarely if ever going to see.

 I think it's more of just a price breakdown. I don't think it's actually like an option.



 They're just showing you what the cost is based on the packages that you're getting.

 If I tried to order just a standard model with nothing on it, I'm pretty sure we'd get a call from Carrier, BMW Rep, and say like, "Why are you doing this?" Yeah, nobody wants that bike.



 (Laughter)



 I think it'd be interesting just to see if someone did snag at it, but we'll see.



 But this gets into the things that are more options, like the green bike that we're talking about. Caracarum? Caracarum?

 Caracarum.

 Caracara. Caracara green. You cannot get that bike and not have option 719 options on it. Sorry, that's hard. Weird to say.



 It's the bike that comes on. You can't get the 719 option in a GS Trophy, or the red, or the triple black.



 So those are things that are exclusive to that bike. And it comes with the gold wheels. You can get the gold wheels specifically on any other thing. The particular build that we have on this one, though, is the Forgenduro wheels.



 So you have two options pretty much. Do you have the Forgenduro wheels or the Cross-Spoke wheels on every single GSA?



 I said that in the most confusing way possible, but I got there.



 So this one had the Forgenduro wheels on it, and they're a beautiful wheel. It really is a good-looking wheel. And depending on your application, you might actually prefer the Forgenduro wheels because they're lighter.



 They do still tell you, like, it's Forgenduro and it's Enduro. That alone tells you that they plan on you taking those off-road.

 What are the sizes?



 What do you mean?

 Like, what size is the wheel? The 19 on the front? Yeah. And then the spoke is 19 as well?

 Yeah, they're the same size. So there's not a 21 on the-- No, there's not a 21 option. I really wish there was.



 But-- because I really, really like a 21-inch front wheel, but I'm taller so I can get away with it.



 The Forgenduro wheel can go off-road, though, is my point. And people-- for most people, most customers that I have, I think the Forgenduro wheel would be an awesome option. But people always think that they're going to go off-road more than they actually do.



 So the Cross-Spoke wheel has been the standard. Even whenever they offered the cast wheel.



 But, I mean, if you're doing primarily off-road, you probably do want to go for the Cross-Spoke. I think I would probably go for the Cross-Spoke.

 It's also part of that GSA look. Yeah, it is. It looks more like a traditional GSA.

 But look at the Forgenduro wheel on-- particularly the triple black, because it's all black. And then you get this black wheel. It's beautiful.

 Oh, and I mean, if you're going to road ride a lot, with very little basic for service roads, I think the Forgenduro wheel is a great option, because that's unsprung weight. Unsprung weight is acceleration, deceleration performance, right? Off the rip. I mean, it's just-- it's there for the-- it's low-hanging fruit.



 Literal. So I think it's a great option. You know, it hadn't--



 but the wire wheel, or the Cross-Spoke wheel,



 I think does lend itself. If you are going to go off-road more, or you tend to be a lot heavier into the for a service road, gravel, travel,



 I think the Cross-Spoke wheel would be the more appropriate wheel.

 I would think if you're going to be getting off-road in your travels, yes. But if you're just wanting a touring bike, the Forgenduro wheel, for me, would be the best option.

 It's a whole lot easier to clean, too.

 That's one thing I thought about, too, yeah, is the cleaning.



 Yeah, maintenance. Don't worry about your spokes coming off.

 That happened, you didn't.



 With basically the same-- Not on BMW.

 Oh, either way, it was a Tiger 900. This guy broke spokes. He rides things hard.



 Y'all want to pike-speak?

 Yeah.



 But yeah, if you're just touring with the bike-- and I always say, if you're over six foot, the GSA is your touring bike. I would rather be on the GSA than an RT if I'm over six foot. And it's just because of the dimensions. I always point out, if you're on a sport bike and you're five foot five, then when I go to 6'1", 6'2" on a good day, and an adventure bike is the same dimensions in that regard.



 So having a larger bike, having the greater distance between the seat and the foot peg, I'm a guy who's going to want the rally seat or a taller seat in general, because I want that distance there so I could breathe a little bit.



 The GSA is your touring bike. And if you're going to use it that way, the forged Enduro wheel makes sense.



 Anything else before we move on?



 I keep asking. But then you have, like we were talking about with the seats, I like a rally seat. This one that I'm looking at has the Comfort Rider seat, which is a heated seat. It's a lower option compared to the rally seat.



 So that just comes down to preference. What you like, what fits you better. Like I said, I like the taller seat options. And then the 719 option comes with the with all the little billet pieces everywhere, like the foot pegs, the shifter,



 your levers, covers on the master cylinders,



 some decal work, the engine covers. Am I missing anything?



 The shift, both shifters as well.

 Break break in. Yeah, both levers there.



 But yeah, just a lot of these little bling pieces that if you want the best looking bike, I will say that the option 719 bikes are the best looking.



 And you know, everyone's going to have their own preference from there.



 And circling back to the seats real quick. Yeah. The the seated is heated and passenger and pillion are independently controlled. Yeah. So if if you're in the scenario where your significant other wants to ride and they get a little have a little more cold natured, they can they have their own controls for the passenger seat. And then the rider has his own controls, his or her own controls as well. So it's really nice that you have basically two zones for your butts. Yeah, that makes it

 really nice. Yeah, makes a big difference because she likes to have hers on and I typically like to have it off. She like if it's under 80 degrees, she's got hers on.



 Especially while we're moving.

 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm the kind of guy in my car, whether it's summer or winter, I have my heated seats on.



 Now, I mean, if I get in the car, it's hot. I'm not going to do all that.

 But about cooled seats. When are those coming?

 Oh, man, I don't want to work on all this complicated.



 Stand up.

 Yeah. Talk about getting

 your breeze going and get pulled over.

 Yeah, it's true in the state

 of Georgia, right? Yes, I've been pulled over three times for standing up and airing out the boys.

 Yep.



 Yeah.

 So fair warning. If you're in Georgia, don't stand up. Yeah, even on a bike like this. It's insane.



 Oh, boy.



 I was just trying to see over that car so I could check out what was going on.

 The next thing is the double silencer. You have just an option between your standard silencer, the double silencer, which is the crop of each option. And like it just comes down to preference. Like I've got customers. I almost wish they didn't make this an option made in an accessory because we had we've had customers who just like the whole build was perfect except for that. And we ended up swapping an exhaust for was it Mr. Kim who on that red one we sold.



 Because he wanted that silencer. Yeah. And the bike did not have it.



 And they've relocated the silencer on the thirteen hundred.



 And the reason I say that is it's down a little bit lower and tucked in really well. So the left and right side case are the same dimension are the same size now. So you actually get an increase.

 Yeah.

 On the side cases. So typically the right side case on the twelve hundred and twelve fifty.



 And that little L cut out.

 Yeah. It had it was at a smaller displacement or less displacement due to the muffler location.



 So now with either muffler the side cases are the same left and right. So you get a little bit extra space, which is as we all know on the motorcycle every little bit. Yes.

 Every square inch. We've talked about camping a lot and having all that travel aspect even if you're just touring across the country without the camping part you want to save space and that's going to make it.

 Oh no. I've definitely been in that situation where it's like I've got one thing left and if I didn't have that cut out in the pain here I'd be totally fine. I'm having to strap it to the top of the box.



 So that's nice. Just fill that space up with something else. Next we have the the adaptive vehicle height control. This build is a comfort. So they have a difference. We were talking about the on the GS they have a sport suspension and they have a comfort suspension and like so they have their different options. Most of them are going to be dynamic ASA anyway.



 But this one doesn't have the sport option. They just have like a standard and a comfort on the on the bikes that have the adaptive vehicle height control. Not every bike has it. So when you have it there's a comfort and that's going to be the lower setting. So I have the the actual statistics here the actual numbers here. The standard is a high height of thirty four point three inches and the low setting is thirty three point one.



 And they say you can get that up to thirty six inches if you really want to go that high



 with the taller seat on the comfort the adaptive. Was it adaptive vehicle height control. I've got this acronym backward.



 Comfort that's the lower setting. The high set the high setting on that is thirty two point three inches and the lowest thirty one point one. You can get even lower than that with low seat options but they don't have that as like a build out you can do. You have that bought as an accessory later.



 That just depends on your height what you like what you want. And I definitely have some customers who could benefit from the lower height options because not everyone built is built like me.

 It does they have it to where it raises and lowers automatically on its own in certain settings.

 So yes under 10 miles an hour is it.



 I believe it it's it's 10 or 15 miles an hour the bike will lower.

 So it doesn't wait until it stops.



 No it's it's prepped for the stop and manually control it as well. So you put in automatic mode or you can put it. If I understand it correctly you can go to the low and it'll stay in low. Yeah or you can go to high and it'll stay in high.



 And it's I mean it's really so there is no low thirteen hundred. Right. GSA where previously in the twelve fifty you've had standard height and then the low and then low now with the adaptive height control.



 That is the new low if you will. Where it has built and it's it's really really nice. The other really neat thing on the adaptive bike is when you go to the center stand it automatically puts it in the high in the tallest mode in the rear. So getting the bike on the center stand especially when it's fully loaded is like a breeze. It's awesome. I mean yeah my twelve fifty can be a bear.

 There's nothing like trying to get the center stand down loaded up with a flat rear tire.

 Yeah and like practically doing it don't kill the bike. Pull up to where you're going to park and then like lower the center stand and kind of hold it there for a second. You'll you'll see and feel the bike raise and then prop it up. So it's it's pretty intuitive how to do it. The biggest thing is don't kill the bike.

 Nice.

 Yeah I like that not having a standard and a low model that that helps with resale value because you're not limiting who can buy the bike when you go to sell it or trade it in.

 And you're not giving up some of the you know I have a shorter inseam right. I always struggle tall bikes are can be difficult for me and I'm always.

 I'm the same way. I'm not short but my legs are.

 Right. I'm finding the compromise between what I can work around and what works for the the ground clearance that I require to be able to ride and do what I want to do. So it's a benefit where now when I moved to a thirteen hundred I can get a bike that sits lower



 statically but dynamically it's at the same ride height so I don't have to give up any of the ground clearance or any of those kind of things that you know because I like utilizing all.



 I realize now that we have neglected to talk about the enduro pro package the enduro or the enduro package excuse me.



 We talked about the 719 option as opposed to the 719 option you can get the enduro package and that's going to have all the things you want to use for off-road. In addition to the enduro package you can put some off-road tires on it which I still would probably go with something that you can buy over the counter because they're not off road oriented enough if you're going to be doing something extreme but the enduro package includes hand guards that are like the metal full wrap around hand guards. It has handlebar risers it has little shorty levers it has the adjustable foot rests that have a little more a little more surface a little more grip for off-road use and the close fitting turn signals and a little bit of extra protection.



 So the things that you always want to do right after you buy a bike yeah it's already done.

 Now that can't go on this green bike that we have it can only go on the red or the GS trophy or the triple black so they they kind of blocked you out on that one. If you want the green you're getting the 719 okay okay um but yeah if you're...

 Could that be retroactively added to the motorcycle? Oh we could buy the parts yes.



 That that we if you are dead set on the green bike we can get an enduro pack green bike. We've got to create it. We'll just strip

 it down as much as we can and then buy the parts to put it on it. Um that sounds more expensive.

 It's a Pandora's it's a Pandora's custom.

 Would it be easier to just buy the green panels later?



 It is not actually. I don't know. Just go and have it wrapped.



 Yeah just wrap it. I think we may be barking up the wrong tree.

 Yeah we're we're complicating our jobs here. Uh but uh and then if you go for the GS trophy build uh which is a style option um you get the sport windshield which is a shorter one we talked about uh a protective grille and the rally seat and then on the uh on the top of the um tank you have these aluminum attachment points um and those are really cool. I kind of like them just to have another place to strap things down and so there's a lot of bag options that go.

 Never have too many places to strap stuff down on an adventure bike.

 I mean if you're talking about these tanks you have three different options. You can either just have the plastic you could have a little rubber option. I made a joke about the little rubber uh pads there being like the um the liquor bar pad that you see um and I'm like that's a perfect place to put your Starbucks. Yeah exactly. I found a graphic that literally is from BMW that has the a Starbucks cup sitting there. Um so I wasn't the first thing about it. Uh somebody stole it from me. Oh boy no obviously that was the idea.

 Um I look at it as like a place to set your lunch after you go through the drive-thru.

 Yeah yeah I mean it's

 a put the center stand down and sit there you got you got a whole place to put your tray and everything.

 It is it's very useful it's very utilitarian. I really appreciate that BMW's thought about all these things.

 Work off of that thing just take my laptop with me.

 Well it's nice the cubby that's there too will actually fit most of the any of the modern phones. I haven't seen somebody that has had a phone that would not fit.

 Yeah um I haven't tested mine yet I need to um I've got the uh what you I guess it used to be the note but now it's just the biggest phone that Samsung makes I'll have to try it.



 Um and there is USB in there as well to charge the phone.

 Nice it's a sealed compartment. Yes yeah yeah those are good to have.

 And they've got like while we're talking about it we've got different attachment points so you have that one main one that's in the middle for a tank bag. It also makes it so you could pivot that tank bag and get to your gas cap.

 You never have to remove the tank bag from the motorcycle to fill it up it just pivots back and it's really nice.

 I always have to unclip mine and roll it over and then worry about it flopping off to the side.

 As far as the integration on a tank bag it's one of the best I've seen so far that it never has to come off because I don't normally run a tank bag because it's in the way when I stop to get fuel. It's just one.

 I do run a tank bag and granted I'm using a tank bag that was not made for my bike because I didn't want to buy another one.



 I made it work like it works okay but I do I do have to unclip it and lay it back on the seat and then and then every time you put it back you got to strap it back down.

 It's a pain. We've all heard where you get to talking to your buddies or somebody at the pump next to you is like hey where are you headed and you get in a conversation because the GS's do kind of draw some attention right especially if you're out on the road and it's covered in bugs and it looks



 it looks it has a very distinct look to it.

 You have a Georgia Tennessee tag and your way out west people are going to come

 and and I mean I've had you know where buddies have left the tank bag on the seat and taken off or so the fact that it doesn't come off it doesn't detach completely from the motorcycle and still allows you to fuel the motorcycle I think is it's almost like it

 was really really by guys that actually use the bikes for what they're intended for yeah they did they did their homework on things for sure I

 like the side one yeah I mean so theoretically you could have a tire on it all three of your pantier bags a they have a port on the back seat that's a docking place as well so you could have a bag back there you could have the tank bag and you could have a little two L-shaped bags that go on the on the pads up here

 you can also strap bags on your your engine engine guards

 but there's not another bike out there that you could put this much luggage on and not be well one you're gonna be over weighting the bike but uh that's that gets to be the the



 that gets to be the concern rather than how much space do I have you get to be worried more about weight at that point than you do about the actual volume that you have which here's a little plug for Nemo uh you get the seat it's less than you know it's 1.1 pound um they're they're specializing making things small light and you know for this type of type of use so think about weight as well whenever you're loading down a bike and I've seen a lot of overweighted GSAs out there they can handle it but I can't recommend it

 yeah and then you throw two passengers on there that's



 it uh

 I should have looked up the exact number on the uh on the weight capacity um but I neglected to do that do

 you know what it is no I don't know off the top of my head

 no you ever rolled across the scales just to check no I've always I've always wanted to when I'm fully loaded down

 I do I like I don't run a bit a lot of stuff I I try to that's right you're my like you're like a boy scout extremely lightweight yeah and I mean you know and now we've got some of the Nemo line of products is like we can do a tent a chair and a pad and it's like five pounds that's crazy

 yeah I'm the guy that's got a battery-powered fan in my tent with me one of them yeah I know depending on what time of the year I'm

 right now and it's just I just I like the simplicity I just I want to keep it yeah minimalistic

 yeah you're also traveling just to just to travel I'm usually going somewhere so I've got to have all my toiletries I have to have nice clothes a different change of shoes

 right yeah usually when I'm on the bike doing you're just doing bike stuff I I yeah I don't want to

 have yes I I actually have not gotten to take one of those trips yet where it's just a other than like a two-day trip

 you know I would encourage you to do it

 I want to so bad that that's my next like bucket list goals right up to Alaska and have it just as a motorcycle trip

 I can't find anything that I trust um no like you know I can see stuff out there but I really want to look

 they don't want to offend anybody

 yeah um no I don't see anything that I could trust out there but it's enough like I really think that you could get away with all those bags and having them pretty well laid it down

 I like being able to put stuff on the front because you're distributing your weight better because yeah that's where I've seen a lot of bikes overload is they're overloaded on the back end we've talked about it you put too much stuff in the top box and it's yeah over past the rear wheel plus you have a passenger and all the weights on the back and like that's not really good yeah like for me I like to put like my tool rolling stuff up on my front bags that are on the crash bars and get some of that weight down low and more up front um I found that it made a huge difference on the way that the bike handles

 yeah and on the 1300 they have to increase the diameter on the front fork extensions uh-huh uh pretty significantly um you know the like they just keep getting better right

 it was so big that they uh there are people who originally were thinking that they're going to come out with this 1300 and have just regular tubular forks um so that's that really says something

 and it's and after physically riding those bikes in off-road situations the front end feels really good like the feedback to the rider is really

 really nice that's something I would argue is a little bit missing before um where it's a little wooden

 it's better than my 1250 the 1250 it's that like it's awesome you know you can ride the fire out of them um but if the 1300 does the feedback feels better um and and they've just they've made some improvements there I really like it and it's really good

 so



 the build that we have has the high windshield which we've kind of already talked about that um top case carrier we talked about that before we got here like just about every build we've done



 and it's a it's an option that's 295 if you do it from the factory and you're saying what what was it

 it it gets it's significantly more if it's done retroactively um just because of the on the assembly line

 uh I think the number you threw out was like 850 bucks whether that's accurate or not doesn't really matter but it's significantly more

 does this package come with the luggage or is it just the racks

 uh just the rack so the luggage is always going to be a separate thing because they want to give you all of the access to to build what you want to do but so like if you wanted soft bags you wanted like just different types of bags you could go with that but if you wanted to like but it's all there ready just plug and play it's not something that you really have to worry about like they're hoping you don't go aftermarket and buy their bag um but uh yeah if you wanted some like krega luggage and something like that we could do that too

 yeah and on the on the gsa the top case and the left rider left case powered yeah so they have a usb port in them uh they interface with the motorcycle the the brake lights built into them no brake lights built into them but it does have like a courtesy light inside the case oh yeah that's that's what it was um and then you've got uh the usb so you can charge you know phone go pro 360

 you know uh that's good i don't have to have all that stuff in my tank bag

 correct uh and then on the on the gsa the right side case does not have power um but the other two do nice

 and then there's a couple things three things really that pretty much all of them are coming with is the intelligent emergency call which is the sos button you you flip the thing up you hold the button i think for three seconds and it's going to call it's got crash detections and then it's got crash

 if it does crash detection you know it'll call um when you purchase the motorcycle you can fill out the form and dmw has your information so when and essentially they're going to call emergency services on your behalf

 and if you have bought a gsa and you haven't done that and like actually registered that your bike go ahead and do that um that could be useful later um i'll leave it at that uh i don't like having the button too though because like if i i know i'm having chest pain heart attack or whatever it might have some more sort of medical emergency i could just flip that up press it and they know where i am like we're good to go um that's something that we don't ever really want to think about but you know it's important it's something that we need to have different options available for and you know we all say it'll never happen to me but you never know it's gonna happen to somebody um and then one cool thing i'm really glad that bmw started doing is including for service um that's included on every single bike it's not um not every single model every single gsa um it but it's going to be they're they're rolling it out on more and more models as we get into 2025 models um so the plan is for that to be a top to bottom thing for every single bike but first service is included that simplifies the conversation between us and the customer um and that gives you an opportunity depending on who you are how quick you are going to put those miles on i always tell customers that at the point of purchase go ahead and have that scheduled and that also makes that conversation easier because you know it's not going to be an additional cost you're not going to have to like meter myself and plan for it

 and i would say most of our most of our gs customers in general when they purchase a bike they're back within five to six days of purchase to have that initial yeah

 you want to get that you want to get that break in and most of them are they ride a lot well i mean typically like if you're buying a bike like this it's you're wanting to get it before your next trip and you're ready to go yeah and so you you want to get those miles in and over with so you can go ahead and get the bike loaded up and test it out and get ready and then you're ready to go yeah so you've usually got something planned so speaking of maintenance let's close out with that what are the maintenance intervals on this

 i don't know i'll leave that to you i can't remember

 okay so 600 mile service it is basically break in service the guys will go through the whole motorcycle make sure everything's up to par and then it's going to be every 6 000 miles is uh oil change and every 12 000 miles is a oil change and valve jet okay

 i wasn't sure if they stuck to that 12 000 miles but yeah so it's pretty much the same as it's been on bmw forever

 is it 6 000 miles or one year is there a time

 they do do or one year i guess and and thanks for bringing that up usually the i don't ever go the year is not the problem yeah um so it's something that that sometimes i don't i don't think about

 and those are you know four of the bikes we sell that's one of the tightest about like tightest service intervals that we have the good news is like whenever you have the opposed twin boxer engine like that valve adjustments are super simple yeah like it's it's you don't have any plastic to get take off and i'll tell you that's what takes most of the time on these valve adjustments um you know especially on things like the multi-strata like you're talking about which has this 36 000 mile valve service interval but when you get there it's gonna it's gonna be fairly expensive to do because you're taking so much time you're doing these way more often on the bmw um but it's gonna be a lot less expensive so pick your poison right you can have it one way or the other

 at the end of the day it's total gonna cost about the same yeah i

 think the amortization schedule you know if you really start doing i remember i i was a customer when i bought my gsa before i was employed at the shop and i did a whole thing and it would it cost me 17 cents a mile to write my gsa because i wanted to know okay what kind of expense am i looking at and that's uh at that time it was it was like 17 cents a mile it's

 pretty cheap way to travel

 before we close out i want to mention a few things



 make sure that you are following us on facebook we also have a facebook customers group so it's just called pandora's european motor sports customers um that's where we're gonna like try to plan some rides we um we were trying to do a ride every third third saturday of the month um this one's actually going to be rained out by the time this airs it's going to be over but we got rained out and we're going to have a camping um kind of uh demonstration where we're going to talk about packing um and then filtering water cooking that those kinds of things um so if there's like ever a rain day or something like that we'll try to still plan something um and then also we just

 have a slumber party at the shop

 yeah um we are currently as we speak they are cutting a hole in the wall um building mountain town bicycles so that's going to be kind of a i won't say subsidiary but another avenue that we're going to be doing is a as part of pandora's um and then if you are confused about any of this that we've talked about today uh we we have just about any of us can kind of go over it with you um we can uh call call me call hunter one of the guys in sales can probably help you on that as well and if they have questions they don't they they'll ask us um but you won't be left you know we'll hold your hand through the process and make sure that you get the bike that you want built the way you want and give you advice one way or another as we go um but with that

 um i think we covered everything yeah good show hunter thanks for coming in again man

 oh no problem always good to be back yeah

 we'll do it again i'm sure yeah all right well for throttle stop moto podcast brought to you by pandoras i have been justin jeff and hunter see you all in the next

 one