Adventure Awaits: Empowering Women in Motorcycling with Rachel from Alabama Adventure Riders

In this episode of the Throttle Stop Moto Podcast, hosts Justin and Jeff welcome Rachel from Alabama Adventure Riders to discuss her passion for motorcycling, camping, and leading group rides. Rachel shares her personal journey into the biking world, beginning with an old Saks moped and her father's adventurous spirit. They delve into the importance of safety in riding, especially in group scenarios, highlighting the role of a safety officer during rides and tips for new riders.

The conversation also touches on group dynamics, riding techniques, and the significance of encouraging women in the sport. Rachel elaborates on recent initiatives to attract female riders, including specialized rides and supportive environments. The podcast humorously discusses gear, bike preferences, and the challenges of riding in different conditions, ultimately fostering a community spirit among bikers of all levels. Tune in for tips, anecdotes, and a commitment to increasing female participation in the motorcycle community.

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Transcript

welcome back to the Throttle Stop Moto Podcast brought to you by Pandora's European Motorsports. I am Justin.

 And I'm Jeff. And today we brought with us Rachel.



 This is Rachel.



 If you want to introduce yourself, I guess you are doing Alabama Adventure Riders. You lead a bunch of rides. You do a lot of camping. Kind of want to bring it in here. Just have a customer profile here. How many bikes have you bought here?



 Between you and Chris.



 Chris is our husband. Three. Three? Soon to be four?

 Yeah. It's soon to be four.

 Because he wants that F900GS.

 Yep. Probably soon to be five.



 Yep. Bring it up.



 All right.

 As we get into any of these stories, it's always interesting to hear how people got introduced to motorcycling. And you're telling me a cool story right before we started here. And it was involving an old Saks moped.

 Yes.



 So, gosh, I was super young. My dad has always been on bikes and he purchased this moped.



 And it was a, I don't even know how you say it, Saks.

 Saks.

 I did Saks. So is this what you sent me a picture of?

 That's what I sent you a picture of there.

 So we'll bring that up. Yeah. And it was like a bicycle and you pedaled it and then kind of dumped the clutch, but there was a button on there that you could hit and it would fire up the engine. And then, like I said, I was way too young to be on this bike.

 So you pedal the bike and I guess that's what's cranking the engine. Yep. Okay. I have a lot of people come in here and they say, "You got any mopeds?" And a moped hasn't been around at least since the... They say mopeds. They say mopeds. I hear mopeds a lot.

 I think it's mopeds. I think it's my apple.



 But no, they come in looking for a scooter. They're asking for a scooter, but they haven't made it. Like no one's made an official moped with pedals since the 80s.



 So yeah, that's interesting going back where, you know, the origins of motorcycling. Motorcycles came from a world where you just added an engine to a bicycle and that just got more and more sophisticated as it went on. So you've got one of those early ones with a sax.

 I did. So you kind of started on basically the... I started on a Honda Passport. Yeah. 50cc moped. So tell me about your first wreck.



 Because I know it happened.

 It did, but I wasn't on the bike. The first wreck on the bike was because me and my brothers were pushing it to try to get it to start.



 And we were on... One was on one side, I was on the other side and the throttle was all the way back. So when the button got hit, the bike was ready to go. It just went straight through the field, kind of turned, went down a ditch, went across the road into another ditch where we lived and kind of flipped. And my dad was out in the garage, probably fixing something or building something. And he just walked outside and was like, "What in the world just happened?" And we were like, of course, already running for the hills.



 But didn't damage it at all. I mean, the thing's about as... Really? Oh yeah. I mean, that...

 Ghost riding?

 He made out of metal and yeah, no fiberglass on those things.

 Ghost riding before it was cool.

 So your dad had this thing. He had been motorcycling for a while though. Long time. And he's Mr. Safety Freak too. No, he's not. Always encouraging wearing helmets, noble pads. No. I bring that up because we joke about her and tease her about being the safety officer. So we talked about her leading some rides with the Alabama Adventure Riders Group and



 she's the safety officer.

 I am. I'm the safety officer. Well, I got deemed the safety officer because



 it's obviously frowned upon not to wheelie or throw dirt and dust up on people and ride or... You know, I really can't, I have to say I'm a hypocrite because I did ride in my Crocs



 at March Moto Madness from the campground to the event.

 I saw that on video. I know. You didn't have a helmet on. I know. Wow.

 Nobody did.

 Wow.

 So it was...

 Way to go, Road Karen.

 No, I know. But it was also to just lend support to the fact that you should not be wearing Crocs. Because I tried to put that GSA up on the center stand and about tip my foot off.

 Oh, man.

 It is not, they are not appropriate riding gear.



 No Croc. I don't care if you put it in sport mode. It's just not appropriate riding gear.

 Or shorts in general.

 Exactly.

 No. I have a scar on the back of my leg just from putting a dirt bike up on the stand.

 Yeah. I mean, it can happen real quick.

 Really sharp peg. It just caught me. It just went right into the back of my leg. It was at the car wash. Pulled it off the trailer, put it on the stand. Wasn't thinking anything about it. Yeah.

 But that's when most accidents occur. When you're not thinking about what could happen or you're tired or you think, "Well, I'm just going to run right down here to the gas station."

 Yeah. The most accidents happen within two miles at home or something. Mm-hmm.

 See, that is a statistic. But think about where you spend most of your time driving. I mean, if that's always your destination, you're going to spend more time there.



 Yeah, but within two miles at home.

 That's what I mean.

 I don't do anything within two miles at home. I live in the middle of nowhere.

 Well, I mean, I don't...

 As a kid, 100% of my accidents happen within two miles.

 Yeah, exactly.

 Yes. Especially on two wheels. Yes. Yes.

 But we were talking before, you kind of became the safety officer, sort of a PTSD from watching your father who isn't safety-oriented whatsoever. No, he is a...

 He is a... I want to say a risk taker, but he just has very little fear.

 Yeah.

 And he grew up very adventurous. Some of our camping trips, we would just sleep under the church bus. No official tent or anything like that.

 Not even in the church bus? No.

 Like, I mean, he and he still to this day goes on these epic adventures. And I don't know if you saw the picture of his V-Star with the pop-up camper. No. So he was pulling the pop-up camper. He had a bellyboat.

 A lot of V-Star. I hope it was 1100 at least.

 Yeah.

 Okay.

 It was a bigger V-Star. But, I mean, he had fly fishing poles, the pop-up camper, the bellyboat. I think it's like a little pontoon that you can take out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big adventures.

 Did you take a dog with him? Nope. Okay. Because I ran into a guy. I don't know where it was. We passed a guy somewhere in the middle of nowhere, like out in like Texas or Oklahoma or something. And he had a trailer and a sidecar and had a dog with him. And he had a kayak on top of the trailer. And then like...

 Yeah.

 It seems normally... You could tell he just lived up to it. Yeah. Like he had everything. It's the smallest motorhome I've ever seen.

 Yeah. That's cool.

 Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty sweet.

 And he does have a gold wing with a sidecar too. So...

 See, that's life goals there after retirement, is to have a sidecar. Yeah.



 Who fits in those? Your dog.

 I have said in this one over here, it is not easy. No. I don't want to ride there for any length of time at all. But yes, for dog. Awesome. Yes, for dog. Absolutely.

 For your gear.

 Yeah.

 Yeah. I mean, but that looks like those... You remember the movie Cool Running?

 No. Where they had... We actually watched that a few weeks ago. Really? I had to introduce the kids to it because it was my favorite movie. I don't know this.

 When they have to get in that... No. That's what that looks like to me. Like you're having... Bobsled.

 The Jamaican bobsled.

 Oh, okay. Okay. I should know this.

 Feel the rhythm. Get on up. It's bobsled time. Come on, Jay.



 Cool Runnings.

 Oh man. No, my brother-in-law is Jamaican. I should know this. Like that's a big deal for them.



 That's how we learned where Jamaica was as children.



 You need to go watch it.

 But yeah, I mean, it sounds like you had a similar experience to me as far as the childhood safety aspect. The biggest thing, you know, you can look at previous episodes where my dad was on here. I remember like being a kid and he's like wheelieing this XR100 like straight at my face. And the biggest thing is don't move. If you move, he will hit you.



 See that?

 No.



 If I even think...



 Let me tell you.

 She's going to the Karen mode.

 If I... I'm talking about myself. If I even think at a red light that I might accidentally wheelie on the BMW. That's why I'm so like super careful when I'm letting out. Because I'm just thinking, man, I wonder what would happen if I accidentally let this clutch out and throttle too much. Would I? Of course.

 Of course. The first tire will come up a little bit.



 Now I have to give you a pass though because, you know, she works in the medical field.

 Yes.

 You see injuries and know the consequences of these injuries. And, you know, to be fair, you are seeing the worst possible outcomes.



 But as you're seeing all this, it makes you more aware. It makes you more cautious.



 Wheelie-ing is something that obviously we don't want to encourage for riders on the street.



 But it is a necessary skill whenever you get off-road.

 Yes.

 And I'm sure you've run into situations riding off-road where it is a necessity.

 No.

 No.



 Like I said,



 now if, you know, there's some epic bear fight on the side of the road and one of them throws the bear in the road and you got to jump it to get over it, maybe.

 Yes.

 But we're talking about the difference between a wheelie and a wheel lift.

 Oh, okay.

 Okay. So like a wheel lift, I could see that. You know, you've got maybe a rock or a log.

 So it's not a wheelie until it's at 12 o'clock and you're balancing?

 Well, I think the characteristics of a wheelie would be a ride. Like you got to ride it out.

 Okay. Okay.

 So maybe if you're riding it out for a long period of time.

 We have to strictly define these.

 Hooting and hollering and being like, "Woo, I ride a wheelie." Yes, yeah, that's a wheelie. But if we're like, "Oh my God, there's a ride." You know, that's a...

 That's a wheel hop.

 That's a, yes.

 A wheel hop.

 A bunny hop.

 A wheel hop.

 A wheel lift.

 A wheel hop. Yeah.

 A double blip.

 Yeah, I tell people that I ride with, because people, you know, especially people that don't ride a lot, they always do a wheelie. Can you do a wheelie? Everybody cares about wheelies. And I always say, "If you see me doing an actual wheelie, get out of the way."



 Exactly. Because I'm a factor wreck.

 Exactly. It is purely by accident.

 It was completely by accident. Yes. I'm not going to be popping a wheelie on purpose. No. Especially not on a street bike or an ADV bike, like a full size. Not like on a motocross bike or something like that. Like I'll pop a wheelie.

 So you know how to pop a wheelie.

 I know how, but I'm not going to do it on a 700 pound bike. Yeah.

 No.

 On purpose.

 I'm not even, I don't know how to pop a wheelie.

 We'll get you trained.

 And maybe, okay, so maybe the reason I'm such a safety officer about it or stickler about it is because I don't know how to do it. Maybe I'm somehow jealous that I can't wheelie. Maybe not. No, that's not it. That is not it at all.

 I have a supermoto and I don't wheelie it.

 I have no desire for my head to be looking up this way when I'm supposed to be.

 That's why you stand up.

 Oh my gracious.

 I want my headlight pointing to where oncoming traffic can see it. Yes, yes. You've seen the videos where guys are riding a wheelie and somebody turns up and says, "Oh, yes." Well, you idiot, they couldn't see you coming because they're looking at the bottom of your body and it's a nighttime.

 Exactly. Well, yeah, and you definitely have a greater distance to stop if you have to bring the front wheel down first. Exactly.

 Yeah. And even in group rides, you see these accidents that happen where these people are riding on interstates and they're on these bikes and they're all popping wheelies and then, of course, they pop a wheelie and then land right on front of the person in front of them that had to stop.

 Yeah.



 It's just not a good skill. It's kind of like the group rides. Yeah. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

 I think it's just about like using in the appropriate scenario and we have to be able to do it off-road just to be able to get over obstacles and things like that.



 I do have a friend of mine who decided he's going to wheelie across the Market Street Bridge during Riverbend and that had great consequences.



 What kind

 of bike was it on?

 I don't know, it was a CBR600 that my dad told his father, "Don't buy your kid this bike. He's a new rider." He sold

 me one when I was 19.

 I don't know the situation of that case, but this is a kid. I just played baseball with him and he's like, "Dude, don't buy your kid this bike."



 I've had the same kind of conversations with people like, "Hey, you're going too much too fast." It's not that this kid was really good at baseball. He knew how to pick up sports very well and his dad thought he'd pick this up as well. He did. He learned how to wheelie. He learned how to control the bike, but it also has to come with discipline. That discipline comes from falling down a few times. You will be disciplined by the bike if you don't have it yourself.



 It's important to have some experience and grow into things like that, not just be a stunt guy out on the middle of the street. Those are the guys who make it dangerous for all of the rest of us on the road and make it so that cars... We were talking about this in our last podcast episode where it's about we have to share the road just like we have to share the trails. As soon as you have this guy on a GSXR 1000 wheelie and pass a crowd of cars, every single one of those cars now is mad at motorcycles.



 We talk about forever.



 You see him like lane splitting and stuff in California, lane filtering. All of that stuff produces a safer environment for the motorcyclist, in the case of lane filtering especially, because you know you're faster traffic up front, slower traffic in the rear.

 Filtering, not splitting.

 Yeah, but honestly right now if it was legalized it would take a lot of education because people would be mad that you're passing on a motorcycle. Why don't you have to wait in line like the rest of us?

 Well, it's the same way on the interstate. A lot of the motorcycles that overheat because they're not like it's liquid cooled. Yeah, and you'll see motorcycles on the shoulder trying to get and you'll see cars like trying to pull into that.

 In the middle of July too.

 Yeah, exactly.

 Do you see me? I'm dying here. Yes.

 My bike is not going to start you know once we...



 And so not only is it 100 degrees outside, now my bike is 230 degrees between my legs. Will you please just like... I'm not trying to get ahead of you, I'm just trying to get out of this so I can get something to drink. Yep. Because I'm about to bite.

 Going to the next exit wherever it is. Exactly. Wait this out. So yeah, I mean I agree.

 Yeah, I've had situations where like somebody pull right out in front of you and you pull it next on the next line. Just like, "Hey, did you not see me?"

 Like not even like education. Yeah.

 And they're like, "Well, if y'all didn't ride like idiots." And I'm like, "Who's y'all?" What do you mean y'all?

 I'm just riding down the road.

 I got passed by a car doing 90. What are you talking about?



 Yeah, I mean and the bigger the bike you think, "Okay, well, I'm more visible now." The bigger I am. But not necessarily. I mean I've watched people, I watched a demonstration with somebody that just held up a pin and behind the pin was a motorcycle and you could not see it until they kind of put that. And I thought, "Well, that is." That's what people see because half the time they're, especially if they're looking to go right



 or they're looking to go left, they'll look one time in each direction. And if your profile is this skinny then...

 Or if you're in the wrong position and stuff like that. And a lot of people are just not...



 I would think sometimes with a larger bike it's easier to confuse it with a car so when you see it you think it's a lot further away.

 So you talk about lane position. What's the correct lane position for a motorcycle?

 It depends on the situation.

 Okay, so generically riding if you're behind a car they tell you like in your DOT owner's manuals and things like owner's not DOT manuals and things like that. They tell you to be the left portion of lane and that's so that oncoming traffic can see you. I agree there's some situations where you might change that.



 And we talked a little bit before we might want to talk about some group riding safety tips on that because that's a different situation, right?

 Yes, very different. 90% of the time you do want to be against the line because the car in front of you is blocking you. And so if you're on the right side and someone is waiting to turn left when that car passes if they can't see you they're going to turn right in front of you. Yep. Where if you're on the left side they'll be able to see you.

 And my dad learned that lesson the hard way. He got hit by a car.

 A lot of people get to learn that the hard way. But on the other end of that if there's somebody at a stop sign up ahead on the right side and you're on the left side they can't see you. So you've got to be vigilant and be looking because if that person is sitting waiting to turn left or right either way you want to move over to where they can see you as well and then move back. And so for me I'm constantly changing lane positions dependent on what the situation is.

 And I will divert, I'll go like from looking at someone who's pulling out in the eye to looking at their wheels to make sure they're moving whether they're moving or not.



 And stay back stop tailgating people.

 See that's what I was about to say.

 People can see you disappear when you're up on the back. Yeah. Yep.

 Well and you don't realize this is something I had to make myself aware of because when I was going to school in high school I had a guy in front of me I didn't think I was tailgating but then I get done and I go inside and the kid that was riding in the car said my dad says to get off his butt.



 And I'm like I didn't realize I was tailgating anybody because we could see our front fender.

 Yeah.

 Like we don't realize how it looks to someone in front of them. We don't mean to tailgate. Honestly it's just you know we're more aware of where the front of our bike is.

 I like to do that to me all the time in traffic. Yeah. Because in my suburban I've got the it's not a rear view mirror it's the rear view camera.

 Camera.

 Yeah. And so you can just see right there. Yeah. And I've seen guys come out and they're like four inches off of my hitch. It's like dude nobody can see you back. Like what are you and if somebody comes screeching up behind you you've got nowhere to go.

 But that's something where again we make people mad inadvertently. We don't mean to be on your bumper. We don't mean to be tailgating. We're just super aware of where we are. I could get within a inch of your bumper and I'm not even close to hitting you.

 But you shouldn't be.

 I shouldn't be. Absolutely.

 If you're going to get rear-ended you got nowhere to go. Right. I can try to jump on top of that truck.

 And yeah that's.

 I think that's more a mistake. It's these guys who are doing 120 on the freeway that you know it's scary when one of those passes by you. And the funny thing is if you're on a motorcycle and you had been riding at any speed whatsoever that guy suddenly has a big head and wants to like prove he's faster than you.



 And so he goes blit blowing by you.

 Those situations I've addressed that in a lot of my YouTube videos and people get so butthurt about it.

 Yeah.

 Like oh well I'm not gonna let you know real men ride and real men do this and we ride as fast as we want and we're not gonna hurt anybody because we're on a motorcycle. That is the one thing that irks me more than anything is the fact that a guy on a motorcycle thinks that he's not gonna hurt anybody because he's on a motorcycle and someone else is in a car.

 Yeah you're not in a close course competition.

 How often are you gonna kill somebody by hitting them with a motorcycle if they're in a car. And I'm like hold up. Okay first off you can very easily kill someone. But aside from that fact why should someone have to deal with the trauma of you dying. Yep. Running into their car or if you don't the fact that now you've totaled their car. Yeah. You've traumatized their children. Yeah. You've completely turned their life upside down for the next two or three months having to deal with insurance and real cars. Like and the fact that you just inconvenienced someone else and most likely injured them just because they didn't die doesn't mean that. Yeah. They were doing nothing but driving to work.

 Yeah.

 Or trying to get their kid to soccer practice.

 Yep.

 And you rear ended them doing 160 miles an hour because let's face it you're an idiot. Yeah.

 Yeah.

 Yeah.

 And if we can eliminate that portion of the motorcycle accidents that happen out there I think that's a pretty good portion of them. Yeah. You ever hear about like people really getting hurt and things like that. I mean in my life the ones I've seen I know I generally know the rider. The ones who have been severely hurt are people I know who are hot dogging it out there. Like they're they're really out there.

 Even if it's the car's fault.

 Yeah.

 If you would have been riding within the limits of the situation.

 Yep.

 You could have either avoided it or the injuries could have been a lot less.

 Yep.

 And so that has a lot to do with it.

 But I don't want to dwell on that too much. We're going to talk about riding in a group and like what's your general rules whenever you take a group out for the Alabama Adventure Riders. What does your rider's meeting look like?

 So it depends on who's leading the safety briefing.

 Okay.



 You know we have several members who don't like the safety briefing. They usually show up afterwards.

 Oh.



 And they know who they are.

 I'm just not a morning person. No.



 We do have a few that are



 I hope that's okay.

 Why don't we just clip that on your zipper or like the actual like oh yeah then it won't be moving.

 Okay. So there we go. We have a few that like to miss the safety briefings. But primarily we want to of course you know in a road riding situation



 if the road is not narrow it's staggered formation. Yep. Give somebody a little bit of space. We usually have a of course lead rider and sweep rider.



 If for some reason we haven't had this issue we didn't have it until the Pandora ride.

 Until I was the sweeper.

 Until Justin was the sweeper.

 The fill in sleep ride.

 The fill in. So yeah so Matt I guess designated you.

 Well Matt had to leave to get back because we got delayed because someone had an accident.

 Yes.



 We've all probably seen that video. Matt with the hatchet.

 And they were fully geared up and and yeah they didn't have any.



 They were really the only ones who rode the ride correctly after they wrecked. They actually made it to old furnace road. Road it then met up at the gas station. The original gas station. The plans did change because I got a call from Chris the service in service that to meet him at the shell and we were supposed to meet at the chair hall of it. Anyway.



 So most of the rides are you know typical lead rider, sweep rider. If we get separated



 you know the group will pull over in a safe location whether it's a gas station or whatever until the others can you know meet back up. But we have never had that problem on any other group ride. If we're riding off road typically it's the same scenario but single ride right, single formation, give people space.



 You know if and we also remind people to check their side mirrors. If the person behind you if you can't see them you know in a reasonable amount of time like if we go around curves or climbing. If you don't see that person then of course you know honking the horn to let the person in front of you know that you're slowing down. You may have to turn around and go back.

 Don't just go on and leave the person behind you. And that's one thing that I've run into in a lot of our group rides is that you really have to train that person to be responsible for the person behind them and then whoever's running sweep if something happens in front of you they have to be ready to react to that. And that's one reason why you know if you ever like read any material on this stuff they'll tell you to have one of your most experienced riders be the sweep. Because if someone's crashing in front of you you have to be able to dodge that person.

 And that's typically what we do we'll put very experienced rider in the back, experienced rider in the front. And even though I knew I know when I first started riding I always wanted to be near the back because I thought I know I'm going to be slower.



 Of course not that and I'm not speaking in general terms I'm speaking for myself as a woman I'm not going to ride as fast as most men on the road or off-road.



 And there's nothing wrong with that? No. I'm right there with you.



 Because I want to ride tomorrow. Yes. So but the bad thing about that is we are like oh man let me be in the back because I'm slower. But technically we should probably I like to stick people more in the middle because I find that they actually keep up better and the ride stays together more if you stagger people throughout the ride not just putting all the slow people in the back because then

 you get really stressed.

 Yes and



 even though I may be as fast as everybody in the ride like if we come up to an intersection I'm going to stop look pull out well these people have already got their speed up so now I'm really far behind. So as a slower rider it's going to take me longer to catch up versus somebody who may be a little bit faster. So it does tend to keep the the group together better when when it's done that way.

 Yeah and there's all the ways those guys that want to go faster than everybody else. Yep. Just make sure they know everybody's

 meeting and just let them go. That's right go on ahead get on out of here.



 I can make a loop and come on back.

 How about this wheelie wheelie all the way around everybody and we'll meet you on the back because that's that's usually the way it is. Oh man.



 But we when we were at March Moto Madness we took a group down to the called the alien launch pad or whatever and of course I was on the 300 because didn't take Loki down in there but yeah everybody else was on a little bit bigger bikes and so

 Loki is her bike her 1300 GS adventure.

 Yes he's pretty



 since I wasn't familiar with the ride and actually that was the first time Chris had ever been down there and nobody else had been down there so I was like you know what what if we get into something stupid and I've got this big Bavarian cow with these big old...

 There's a video on our YouTube channel called Finding McFarland if you want to see what we're talking about the alien launch pad if you're not from the area it's uh it's wild but it's an old town it is and there's a graveyard up there and they had their own post office at some point and that was during uh that was during all of the building of the power station down there wasn't it.

 It was like a concrete mixing plant and yeah so it's really interesting and and so we went down in there and of course I was on the 300 everybody else was on I think the the next smaller bike was a 650 and then of course Chris on his 1250 and a bunch of KTM's and then of course we had a few riders that are very wheelie oriented I had to get on to them thank goodness they weren't connected via comms but I think half the time people just mute me and I'm yelling at everybody but um we went down in there and then of course the second we hit 68 I could hear Chris in the comms okay Rachel we're about to go and I'm like that's okay and of course I'm squealing in the back and trying to keep everybody else is just gone and uh but it didn't bother me a bit I knew exactly where we were going and you know I just tell them if y'all make a crazy turn off somewhere just

 somebody let me know yeah no we uh we have a lot of these group rides and on a couple of these group rides we do one every month we always have a rider who is fairly new and I just want to make a point like I don't mind having that person like I want that person to participate as much as they humanly can because this is the only way you get better let's just put time in the seat um what I've noticed is they do have a tendency to apologize a lot and you know make sure you know because we are waiting on you like it it is what it is um but I don't want anybody to feel uncomfortable coming on and joining in our group rides we will let you know if this is an expert ride and we have had those um a couple of mistakes I see them make uh is of course stop signs uphill letting the clutch out stall on the bike um had a couple top had a tip over on one of those and uh not leaning the bike that's something is you is you are learning to ride you don't steer the bike by turning the bars you steer the bike by leaning the bike over and if you don't get to the point where you're comfortable leaning the bike over then you're not going to make corners at speed that other people can um

 I have to touch on something yeah so we talk about new people on group rides so one of the things I've tried to do in the group is bring more women to the sport

 again we talked about that last episode



 and we had a women in the woods ride yeah last year in the fall and



 we had a brand new rider and her partner and her son um he he asked if he could ride with her because this would have been her first time riding off road um and he had bought all three of them little Honda trail 125 and I of course you know asked the women in the group I was like is that okay you know because it was supposed to be a women only ride but if she was going to ride with us



 he felt comfortable more comfortable riding with her and she probably felt more comfortable with him being there yeah and she rode it and let me tell you we had the best time getting all three of them I mean she did really good she is still riding but that if if she were to try to go on a group ride where she had never ridden off road yeah um and you know was kind of stuck in the middle being anxious trying to keep up she probably would just stop riding yeah even want to so there has to be those kind of rides for people if not then you know we're we're leaving out a big population of not just women but new riders or you know people who don't have anybody that can take them out and show them you know how to ride well

 yeah and you never want to stick a new rider out there in the woods alone not necessarily like fully alone but you don't want two new riders out there in the woods alone like it's uh it's important to have somebody who's experienced coaching these people as they get used to used to just being on the gravel being on the dirt um we uh I love training courses we've talked about it you did the one for BMW didn't you you learn anything a

 lot and contemplated doing it again next month because once you've done it one time now you can kind of be a little bit more relaxed like okay now I can really you know go for all the things that I was reserved you know the first time I did everything even though everything's challenged by choice I thought well I'm here



 I might as well go for it.



 And I would take it every year if I could. I mean, I just think it's that valuable. And I learned a lot.



 We had talked about this topic last episode with Terri Lynn. Terri Lynn, we'll see. That actually is publishing as we're recording right now. But she's starting this Cherry Log Adventures. And her point is to get more people into writing and support the local businesses along the way and just make it accessible to people. Because she's right along the BDRX, which is awesome.



 But another focus she has because she is a female writer is getting more women into it. I think I need to connect you guys. I don't know if you know her.

 She's doing the She-Shreds-Rod. The 10th, yeah.



 I'll be up in Merrillville for the She-Rides-Moto event. So I've thought about just--



 I've already got it on my calendar. Popping on over to Mulberry. Yep.



 Kahutta will--



 I'm telling you, that was when I did the Smoky Mountain 500. Kahutta is a sleeper out there.

 You get some technical stuff.

 Yep.



 Well, you talk about going to the Alien Launch Pad. You didn't hit Trail 81 and 82. No, I did not. Those are technical. Those are difficult.

 Yes, they are. And we had a friend of ours-- well, two that were in the group with us, they wrote it with some other friends of ours. And it was just more than I wanted to get into while we were there. Plus, they're so much great.



 I can't not ride the Cherahala.

 Oh, yeah.



 All the way down to the NOC. There's just too many great roads. You need weeks to--

 And we did a ride that Saturday to March Moon of Madness. We didn't stick around very long. We kind of turned around and came back.



 But that was the point. That's what we had planned on doing. But you stayed in camped. So you got to try out the new Nemo. I did. It was excellent. She was bragging about it. She got the four-person tent. And she was bragging about how you could stand up in it, do other things in it. We're both tall.

 It makes a huge difference when you have a place where you can change, where you can stand up and change.

 How small does it pack down?



 I think it's--

 If I wasn't tethered, I'd go get it.



 We'll remember that next time.

 This is the way women measure for everything in the house. So it looks about like-- it's about like this and then about that wide. And so we can pack it on the bike. Of course, the bike you have makes a huge difference in what you can carry. So we have these big bikes. And so it's easy, especially when both of us are traveling together because we can kind of share packing up the camp and stuff.

 For me, I'm too up. Well, you know-- Having something that will fit in the pannier.

 Oh, yeah. No, it ain't going to fit in the pannier.



 The two-person tent will.



 I've got the two-person tent with the foyer.

 The foyer?

 Oh, OK. I know what you're talking about. So you've got the tent and then the cover for the whole thing is twice the size of the tent. And then so you've got your-- Like a little canopy. Yeah, like a canopy, but it's got its own door and everything. So you keep all your gear out there. And then we've got the double mattress with the double sleeping bag. And it takes up the whole footprint of the tent. But you can change your clothes and everything over in the foyer.

 Do you know what made the difference for us?



 Cots.

 Cots. That's not a bad idea. That is exactly-- But I can carry cots. I'm completely out of here.

 OK. Well, we are on cots now.

 Yeah.

 Because we have tried everything. We have done hammock camping. We have done tent camping, sleeping on the ground.



 I've ended up in the car sleeping.

 Have you done the little pad?

 Do it.

 Have you done the sleep pad underneath the sleeping bag?

 Yep.

 OK.

 Yep. So I've tried it all. And first night away, we can never sleep. I mean, I don't sleep well the first night away from home anyway.



 But the cots on this camping trip, we slept.

 Yeah.

 Excellent.

 So we have the big Agnes. It's the double inflatable pad. Yeah. And then the sleeping bag goes over that. Yep. So your pad acts as your insulation in the base.

 Right.

 So it basically just has a sheet that wraps around it. Yeah. And then you've got a sleeping bag that's basically all the way open.

 Yeah.

 And so it packs up the size of like one sleeping bag. That's nice. Instead, I have to take two.

 Yeah.

 And you've got one mattress pad that's a little bit bigger than a single.

 Yeah.

 But it's smaller than two symbols.



 So it works out really well. And a little air mattress.



 They're expensive, but it's definitely worth it.

 Oh, it's worth it if you're going to-- yeah.

 So if I have that in my battery-powered fan, I'm good.



 So you guys have two bikes that you're doing. You have the 1250 GSA and the new 1300 GSA.



 What do you want to do when he goes for an F900? I mean, I guess you still get bags and stuff like that on it.

 Yeah.



 So we're thinking about condensing both dual sports into the 900. OK. Because he rides the 1250 on pretty much everything.



 Except for-- So this is going to be in addition to the 1250?

 Yes.

 So you're going to have-- OK, I see.

 Yeah. Why would you-- why wouldn't you?

 You know, you don't want to replace it altogether. I mean, for what you're doing, if you're actually going out and using the camping capability, that is the bike. Like, you know I'm a KTM guy. If I'm on the KTM, I want to go out and handle some really gnarly off-road. Yeah. I'm not doing it for moto camping. No.



 For moto camping, the G1300 GS or GSA is the bike.

 And that's-- so we're just thinking about the 900 for him, for like the gnarlier step that he may not want to take the 1251, like Bucks Pocket or like your 8182, those top trails. Yeah.



 And everything else he rides, all the BDRs and the Smoky Mountain 500 he's done on the 1250.

 Yeah, definitely incapable.

 And then he said you can ride the 900 on like the Smoky Mountain 500 versus--



 because when you go from the 1300 to the 300,



 it makes a huge difference. I do not.

 Are you finding that you really like the adaptive ride height?

 No.

 No. Not the thing. I wasn't sure. I mean, I know like height-- you're tall. Yeah. It's not much of an issue. But height is always an issue. We're talking about getting women into it. It's always an issue. Yeah.



 And you're the rare exception.

 I know. But-- I don't fit in any one category, I don't think.

 Right.



 We talk about the frustrations, especially women talk about the frustrations with finding gear.

 Yeah.

 Because it's kind of-- it's either shrink and paint for the ladies and that don't work.

 Shrinked and paint.

 Because then it's really short for me.



 But it's really hard to find gear. But for me, it's different because women's gear is usually a little too short, especially in the torso. My women's jackets are too short. My men's jackets are too big across the shoulders and the arms.



 But I am not limited with my bike selection, which is nice.



 I can pretty much choose a bike that I want because I want it, not because I can touch the ground or-- Yeah. So I'm blessed in that aspect. But I will tell you something that I was not prepared for on the 1300.



 My 1250.



 Loved it.



 I would just get on it, take it off the side stand, and go.

 Yeah.



 Remember, the lean angle on the 1300 is that way because of the adapt ride height.



 It leans it so much that my first time on the bike, Chris was ready to go. He was in the driveway. And I go to get on it. And I'm thinking I'm just going to pull it up like I did mine. And it was like I was in concrete. I was like, "Huh." It was about as far as I could get it. And I thought, "Oh my gosh."

 Well, there's a lot of things like that. I've already bought this bike. Yeah.

 And I can't get it off the side stand. You need a

 taller kickstand.

 So what I had to do is, there's a company in Portugal that is making the lean angle reducer footplate extender.

 Yep.

 You have to be careful with those. Let me tell you. I've got a stool.



 They've been sold out forever because obviously this is not just unique to me. This is a problem across the board.



 And when it came back in stock, I went ahead and ordered it. And of course it arrived after March, but it makes all the difference. Just lifting it up about an inch.

 Well, you know why we have such short kickstands, right?



 There's like a 50 state thing where that is actually regulated in California.



 And think about where you're parking them in California. Everything's hilly.



 So you've got to have a short enough kickstand so that you can get on there.



 I always call that a showroom feature because it's typically a feature you notice in the showroom before anything else.



 And if you're ever having trouble getting something off the kickstand, turn the bars first and use that momentum to help you up. But yeah, it takes some upper body strength to get it done.

 Oh, you got to use all, you got to use every body part to get that thing. And especially if the gas tank is full, I don't fill it up. But for that reason, and plus because Chris is having to stop to fill his bike up, there's no reason for me to fill it up.

 Well, if that's the biggest crap, we're doing pretty good.



 I bought one of the base plates when I had my tiger rally.



 And before I took off on my first cross country trip on it, I knew that I was going to be doing a little bit of off-roading and those tigers had just that skinny, kickstand foot. And I was like, this is going to end up sinking in the mud. So I bought the base plate. Okay. Well, the tiger does not have that issue where it leans over too much from the factory. So you put the base plate on it and now it doesn't completely load when you put it on the kickstand. Uh oh. So I am in Colorado and Colorado for those from Colorado. Is that a thing? My fiance's family from there. They get on time.

 Oh, okay.



 So I'm in Colorado and I pull up to a gas station and I wasn't paying that much attention because I was at elevation and I was like, I need to just go get something to eat and chill for a little while. I pull up to the pump and then the pump's on my left side. I wasn't thinking and stood it up, went off. As I'm walking in, there's four older guys sitting outside that are all on harlons and they're just like, hey, how you doing?



 Come out and as I'm walking out, I see all four of these guys around my bike and my bike is on the ground and I'm like, what did you do? What is going, like what's happening?

 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 Like they're running out there and they're like, your bike just fell over. We're trying to pick it up and I'm like, what? And so it was, it was windy, but when I pulled up the gas pump, the concrete was kind of sloped down away from it. Oh. And that was the side that my kickstand was on. So when I got off, it was just standing straight up and we were in Colorado at elevation, so it was pretty windy and the wind came by and just blew the bike right over.



 I was like.

 So you were coming out wanting to fight, thinking the Harley guys had a problem with.

 I was like, I was going to have to fight these four dudes by myself. I thought they were still on my bike.

 Trumps are, they're discriminated against. I got shamed pretty good because that was my. They were super cool.

 Who's hating on Trev?

 Oh, you know, I think it's just me.

 In your group?

 Yeah, I think it's just me.

 Oh my goodness.

 It's because of British.

 It's because you rode one.

 It's because I rode one.

 Why did you do that to the brand?

 And listen,



 they all were on BMWs, so they used to call mine, you know, the Dollar General bike and they were all.

 Oh.



 Yeah.

 And so I got shamed pretty good.

 What did they say about my Ducati?



 Oh.

 Spaghetti.

 Italian made Ducati. I know I didn't fit in on that.

 Oh, stop it. No, everybody's like, oh, you're taking a Ducati in the dirt. Oh.

 Yes. But it's the maintenance afterwards. That's the problem.

 Not on that bike.



 36,000 miles. Really? To reverse, first valve service is 36,000 miles.



 Like, talk about Ducati people, like, if you're talking about your scrambler stuff like that, like yeah, they're still using the old engines and stuff like that, 7,500 miles.



 But then when you get to, like, Ducati has fought that so much that they've had to become completely the opposite. The opposite way. And so you're looking at 9,000 mile change intervals, 36,000 mile valve services, like, talk about maintenance. Like, they are the least maintained motorcycle in our showroom. So you mean that bullying works? Is that what you're telling me? Bullying worked in this case.

 But the majority of the comments that I get on that bike, because I never wash my bike, so they just stay dirty all the time. So I'm like, that's going to be dirty again. So I don't wash it. Every time I pull up somewhere, people will come up and be like, oh yeah, you're actually using that rally for what it's for. It's covered in mud and everything.



 That's the most common comment that I get.

 But we love that bike on the group ride, because we want to always see different bikes. I love to ride different bikes. That's one appeal of barber.

 So if I show up and I'm trying, am I going to be shamed?

 No.



 No, because let me tell you something.

 She got mad and nipped it in the budge. What happened?

 I did. I am the carry.

 Which time are you showing up?



 Show up on a bottom wall. You might be like, hey, you're on the wrong equipment.

 I want that Rocket 3. That is my lottery bike. Like if I won the lottery, that would be my bike. I drive, I mean, I demo it every year at Barbers. And every time I'm on it, I'm thinking, man, if I just...

 I know a place you can get one.

 I know you do.

 I want that barber that we unboxed last time.

 Oh, that TFC. That thing's beautiful.

 Yeah. That one blew up. I want to sell it early and buy that thing so bad. Oh man.



 Everybody wants to buy a street glove.



 Yeah. So I can buy that.

 But no, people do have a tendency to look at your bike, Ducati in general, and say, yeah, that's not a bike you want to take off road. I think Yomie Nube actually did a video where they're dissing on that bike, calling like, who's actually taking this off road? First off, if you're listening to Yomie Nube for any kind of advice, go elsewhere.



 Yes, calling you out.



 But anyway, it is an off road capable bike. You've done off road. You've done everything that most people do on GS as well. You're... Whenever we started this podcast, we talked about how not off road oriented you were.

 On a bike that size.

 And it has changed as we've gone on with the ride you went on with them. And just getting experience under your belt's the biggest thing.



 Gravel is intimidating. Because if you get on the asphalt,



 you have a certain level of grip, and that just goes away when you're on gravel. I took a friend of mine, he had been riding for a few years, and I took him just dirt bike riding, just casual dirt bike riding. And I was like, man, how'd you like it? He goes, I hated it. And I was like, why? He's like, I felt like I was going to hit a tree at any moment. And I'm like, yeah, well, yeah, that's your first time you're going to feel like that.



 That story means...



 The most nervous I've ever been on a motorcycle is not riding through Atlanta traffic. It's not hitting a jump at the motocross track. The most nervous I've ever been is two up on a multi strata, fully loaded out on gravel, doing 10 miles an hour.



 And

 see, we come from... So in between the motorcycles that we bought just for road, back in 2015, we got really heavily into mountain biking. We would ride some... We loved the chunky, rocky... That's what we love to ride. So then Chris had the idea of, well, we could combine motorcycle and mountain biking. And that is where the adventure riding came from. He started that process in October of 22 and in December of 22, he bought the triple black, the 1250. And I had no desire to ride.

 You're like, have fun with that.

 Exactly. But then there wasn't a lot of people riding and of course we do a lot together. So I ended up... He said, I've done some research and I found a couple of bikes that I think... Because I was intimidated by his 1250. It looks big. I mean, it looks like a big bike. So I was like, I don't want to ride that. So he found a couple that he thought were mid level. And that's how I ended up with the 900 and rode it all the way to Arkansas and realized it was not big enough.



 It was very uncomfortable.



 And by December, I had the 1250 GSA. Nice.

 And that was the one you traded in here. It's still here.

 Yeah. When I pull up, I'm like,

 oh, nobody's loving on you. Hey, we're getting some better weather here also.

 My truck got sold like that and that guy is here all the time. I've seen it bike like four or five times here.

 Was that Kevin? Because if so, he traded in for a multi.



 He was here riding it a couple of weeks ago. I forgot the guy's name.

 We had... Yeah, we had the multi 950 sold recently. He went on our latest ride. But anyway, different guy.

 More?

 Yeah.

 Yeah. You also my tiger.

 Yeah.

 Because traded in, y'all didn't even look at it before you...

 Yeah, we used to do a lot more of that. It used to be a lot less risky to trade in a bike because now we have to be really, really selective.



 I don't care.



 We have a supply issue at the moment, the whole motorcycle industry does where there's so many bikes that are new bikes on the market, prices have come down on them.



 Pricing's aggressive on new bikes and there's promotional interest rates with new bikes. It makes the used industry so much more difficult. Whenever we give trade values for things, we're being more careful. We're being more cautious. It's not because we think your bike is actually worth whatever number we put on it, but we have to keep the lights on. We have to make profit at the end of the day. It's a great risk for us to take bikes in right now because we don't know what the market's going to do. It's a tumultuous time.



 And financing. It's so much easier to finance a new one versus...

 It is. And just like you said, people who have really good credit are like, when they see promotional interest rates on bikes, they're like, "Well, why in the world would I pay seven and eight percent when I can get this one at 2.9 or...



 ...5.9?" Exactly. So it is hard to, I imagine, sell a used bike.

 Well, and a lot of guys, especially BMW customers, they just want to buy new.



 It's just how it is. You can see it even on the car side. On the car side, BMW cars, they have a pretty low resale value.



 And luckily, we haven't seen that so much on the motorcycle side, but it's because everybody's wanting to buy new. That customer just wants a new car.

 Of course, I think with the criticism about the different design of the 1300s, so many people were like, "Oh, it's so ugly. I'm going to stick with the... You should be able to get rid of them 1250s because they're like, "I'm not buying that transformer."

 Well, if you look out there...

 There's worth more. Exactly.

 It's not a 1250 that I have in the used department that's been here more than 10 days.

 This was not for sale.

 That was not for sale. That's Matt's.

 No, but there is one out there that he has. I wonder if that BMW rider, school sticker intimidates people.

 Scare them away.



 Oh, yeah. I forgot about yours.



 Yeah. Well, it's been ridden.



 Yeah. But that one usually broke in.

 That's when you want that BMW after that first big service. Yeah. Because you'd be surprised how many used BMWs we see that are five years old and only have like 1500 miles on them. Oh, yeah. They've just been sitting there. Where do these people... Why do they not ride these bikes?

 Well, you don't see... We see that all the time. We're far away. We can't ride from Starbucks to Starbucks.

 I don't like Starbucks.

 I don't either.

 I don't like coffee.

 Get out of here. Get out of here. Oh, boy. That's profanity. Sorry. But no. I'm just your guy. No. No. Energy drink. Being in this industry though, we see that all the time. We see people who like buy a bike and for whatever reason, they just don't ride it that often.

 Yeah. It's really not the bike you want.

 Well, no. And a lot of times that's the case.

 Yeah, exactly. That's what I... That's the first thing I asked.

 The kids have not been ran through it, right?

 So it's driving...



 I will pay attention and if I see them coming in for a 600 mile service a year after they bought the bike, I'm like, "Why don't we get you into something that you'll ride?" Obviously, this is something that's not comfortable enough for you to get on and just go.

 I've seen a lot of people buy the bike that they think that they want and then they ride it and it scares them and then you'll see it for sale a year later.

 Another reason why I always tell people, "Don't buy the brand new shiny sport bike. I don't want a newer rider to go for an S1000RR. Don't buy it." Like, I want you to get something that's going to be a step up.

 Yeah, I want to sell you that bike two years from now.

 Right.

 When you're like, "Yeah, I'm ready." Yeah.

 And if I continually down sell, I do get that second and third sell because they're comfortable on the bike. If I sell them that bike, they're going to get scared.

 And they're going to send you more referrals.

 Yeah.

 Where you put them on that bike they think they want right now and want it done and then you don't get any of their friends or anything.

 Yeah. That's... I grew into... Mind you, I'd rather do it the way I did it even though it wasn't the bike for me. Right. It was a small enough bike that I got comfortable enough riding it and realized, "Okay, these are the things I want. These are the things I don't want."



 And was able to upgrade and then upgrade again.

 That's what I tell people. If you're just brand new to it, go to the MSF course because that leads... gets you on something and you have a better idea of what you're going to want whenever you do purchase your first motorcycle. And nine times out of 10, their first motorcycle they buy isn't the bike for them permanently. No. And you're going to jump to something else. And people say, "Oh, we'll get a bigger size, like start up with an 800 or something like that so that you don't get bored of it too quickly." I say, "No matter what you get, you're going to replace it." And look at the depreciation that happens on a $4,000 bike. There's not a whole lot of room to lose there. You're going to lose a lot more money by getting something more expensive and then wanting to trade it quickly.

 So I did it both ways.



 You started twice?

 I started twice. I did it the wrong way first and then did it the right way because I grew up riding dirt bikes and then got my first street bike and bought it from his dad's... well, it was southern but your dad was still working.



 So bought it from your dad, wrecked it a week later, got a CBR600.



 Really learned that street bikes and dirt bikes do not cross over.

 That doesn't translate one to one.

 It did not translate well at all, especially on a Chattanooga Interstate with a bunch of potholes. Oh my goodness. So I didn't ride it all for like seven or eight years and then started back dirt bike, which got me onto a Grom, then to a 250 dual sport.

 Dirt bike got you onto a Grom?

 Yes.

 Okay. Just a pit bike. Okay. Gotcha.

 Got the Groms a pit bike.



 I rode the gas station from the motocross track one day. That makes sense. I rode that and I was like, "Oh, I missed this."

 I can do this, yeah.

 And so I went from the Grom to a 250 dual sport back to a CBR600, then to the 900, now onto the Multistrada and the street bike.

 See, I kind of like missed that opportunity. I don't like...



 I started on letting a PW50 when I was three years old. I'd never had any kind of first bike. I remember my first street bike, but it wasn't even something that I... My first road motorcycle

 ever was a CR125.

 My first street bike was a GZ250. It was a little dinky thing. My name is Stormy.

 I'm on a full-size bike.

 But I never thought of it as my bike. I never...

 I don't think they ever thought about progression. I mean, we grew up in a different time. We...



 Now, like Macy, when she was little, she wanted to learn to roller skate.



 In the house with carpet and she had on a helmet, the knee pads, the elbow pads.

 So onto that. So she's learning to ride right now, right?

 She is.

 Is she wearing a helmet while she's doing that?

 She is now.



 19. Okay. The reason she didn't have the helmet on in the field...

 I was thinking like seven or eight.



 Oh, thanks. I like that one. No. Yeah.



 The reason she didn't have the helmet on in the field, the grass that she was riding, is because Chris kind of wanted her to hear his instruction. But when we started getting where there was some asphalt,



 we have the helmet, the boot. She's got riding pants. She's, you know, so...

 You geared her up fast.

 Oh, yeah.

 She's... My 17-year-old's wanting to learn. She's like, "I want to learn to ride a motorcycle." And she's like, "Can you teach me in one of your years?" And I'm like, "You're like four foot 11."

 Yeah.

 Which one will it mean? Her and her mom are very height challenged. Yeah. I'm like, "I have a Supermoto that you can't touch the ground on. I have a CBR600. I'm not starting you on that."

 Yeah.

 "You definitely can't touch the ground on the multi-shot." No. So it's like, "I need to go buy another Grom."

 Yeah. That's another thing with my feet.

 You need to get a KTM 250 Duke. That's like the 390, but lower.

 Yeah. Oh, they have a... Yeah, they do have a 250 now.

 Yeah.

 Yeah, that actually is a different one.

 And it's like $4,000. That's Grom territory.

 And see that's Macy...

 That is Grom press territory now.

 She can touch... Like, she's learning on my KLX300, which has a high seat height. I think it's around 34, 35 inches. And she can touch on that. So she's also not limited with, you know, necessarily the type of bike, but we definitely are looking more for like a 300 to 600 CC for her first bike. Something not too playful.



 Maybe a little lunky, you know.

 She needs a 390 adventure.

 But see, when I hear KTM, when I hear KTM,



 I just think race.



 Yeah.

 I think racing.

 Yeah, but it's a 390 at the end of the day.



 I know, but still.

 That's what I wanted. Something small and white to put around the woods. Yeah.

 Well, and then you guys have been on BMW for a while and I think that you guys, you know, trust that brand.



 And you're showing me a G310 GS that she's looking at. So I hope she gets it. I hope she likes it.



 Have the whole family riding together. Yeah.

 I wish y'all had one. I'd have bought it today.



 That's why I brought the truck.

 Don't you love it? Well, let me... Don't you love what a customer says. If you'd have had it, I'd have walked out here with it.

 Free bikes yesterday.

 I don't know if Scott's on delivery right now, but I'll see if there's a dealer close to him. He could bring it. We have it by the end of the day. Road trip.

 Yeah, exactly. They

 got a nice transport man.

 Oh, I know. It came to my house.

 It came to my studio.

 Delivered that 1250.



 Chris said that's the first time he's ever looked at a bike and it looked better off the showroom floor than it did on. When y'all backed that off, he was just like, "I don't remember it looking like that."

 You know the crazy thing about this showroom?

 Yes. I mean, it was awesome.

 There are so many beautiful bikes in here.



 That's to me, I see a bike out. Even if it's one I sell, I'm more drawn to it than otherwise.



 I can appreciate the R18 right there. Way better not in the showroom.



 I get tired of seeing it here.

 Why do you want me to take really good pictures of it?

 Yeah, that's why we do that.



 We haven't taken any pictures, had you taken any pictures of bikes that we don't really care for though. That's the thing. We'd like to show the candy.



 Which ones are we going to be showing today?

 We got the R12 and the R12 9T.



 Very well-styled bikes. What's our time looking like? When do we start? Right now. Okay, we're wrapping up then. Wrapping up.



 Anything we didn't touch on?

 What's the next ride?



 Shout out all your stuff.



 The springtime makes it a little bit more difficult, but we do have a waterfall ride



 on the 19th.



 It's kind of like a hook or run from waterfalls. We have about 20 to 23 waterfalls with coordinates.



 You'll break off into groups of 5 to 10.



 You'll choose which waterfalls you'll go to, but it has to be a group picture in front of the waterfall with the sticker or whatever. We all meet back at Brightstar.



 It's from 9 to 3.



 The group that hits the most waterfalls wins nothing but fun. When is this? The 19th, April.



 That's pretty close.

 Not next week, next weekend.

 Where does that start exactly?

 At Brightstar Sporting Clays in Horton, Alabama.

 Horton, Alabama. We've got to make a trip to Alabama.

 That would be, yep. It's right outside of, if you know where Aniana is.

 I don't know where any of this is.

 I mean, right outside of Snead.



 I've been to Alabama once.



 I've got lots of family, kinfolk and...

 But kind of between Gadsden going towards like...



 Huntful.

 Well, I know that you have the Alabama Adventure Riders group.



 If you're in or close to Alabama, join that group and join some of the rides.



 They'll let you in even if you're on a triumph.



 We welcome all bikes.



 I can tell a couple of Hondas at the last ride. Yes, yes, there is no...

 I mean, we have them all.

 Those are tolerated.



 Look, we had a Honda... Was it the Rebel?

 Yeah. Oh yeah, you did.

 She went all the way to the top. She rode that entire ride on the street.

 I felt so bad for her.

 But guess what? She's got a BMW 750 now.

 I felt bad for her because I was trying to find something that she could...

 You put them on a Honda.

 I was trying to find something that she could fit on. It was so difficult to find something that she could reach the ground on. Hopefully that 750 must be a low.

 It is, it is, it is.



 We welcome all bikes. If you want to try it, we'll support you.

 That Rebel coming on the ride proves that just about any bike can do it.

 When she came to the top, when I saw her come to the top, I was like, "Yeah!" Everybody was clapping. It was awesome. She's like, "I'll try it."

 Any bike that goes forward if you brave enough.



 I think her husband was on the 300 and he quickly realized that was a little underpowered. Especially the interstate rider. I think he's on a trans out now.



 I can't remember. I think that's what he's on. I try to remember people by their bikes.



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