NO KETCHUP....Sports Talk w/ Sean Little & Nick Harvey
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NO KETCHUP....Sports Talk w/ Sean Little & Nick Harvey
Aye Man! Arthur Blank's Flowers, Chicago Bears Look Rough & NFL Coaching Explored
Can the Chicago Bears turn their season around, or are they destined for another disappointing year? We'll unravel the mysteries behind their current struggles, assessing the roles of Caleb Williams, Shane Waldron, and Matt Eberflus to see if there's hope on the horizon. From the intriguing performance of Malik Willis under Matt LaFleur to the Steelers' unexpected resurgence, we've got it all covered. Plus, we'll debate the fates of the Dolphins, Cowboys, and Browns—are they already out of the running this season? And Sean bet real money on Will Levis. He'll try to explain!
But first.....AYE MAN!! Arthur Blank made the decision to place himself in the Atlanta Falcons' Ring of Honor, and we’re here to dissect the audacity of that choice.
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No ketchup, no ketchup. What's good, my people, welcome to no Catch-Up Sports Talk via Chicago. I am your host, sean Little Big Nick the Quick with me, as always, we are off and running NFL Week 3 in the books. We have a lot to talk about and we're going to talk a ton about the Chicago Bears, caleb Williams, shane Waldron, matt Iberflues and what's going on over there. But first let's kick it off. Hey man, hey man. That's the little segment. We got a couple things we got to talk about, including Arthur Blank putting himself in the ring of honor in Atlanta on Sunday Night.
Speaker 2:Football Bears fourth down speed options. What are we doing here? Is this exactly where we thought we would be? Did the hopeful blinders cover our eyes? And now we knew we were at where we thought we would be in the first place, around the shield, around the NFL. Our pound for pound is Matt LaFleur, the best coach in the NFL. He's got Malik Willis playing ball. Steelers, j Field resurgence Dolphins, cowboys, browns Are they all finished? Shaky quarterbacks gambling I'll put money on Will Levis man, we'll talk about it. No catch-up sports talk for you, chicago. Let's get to it. Big Nick the Click, what's happening?
Speaker 1:How we feeling.
Speaker 2:Week three I'm only on one cup of coffee today, oh man, I'm already on three.
Speaker 1:I'm charged up. I'm charged up. Man had a busy day yesterday. I don't think I moved for 10 straight hours. This was the first Sunday where I was just fully you was really posted, really posted, just posted up. Tough, had a busy week of travel. I was looking forward to it all week, didn't do anything. It was raining outside so there was no, no reason to even leave the house. You know, sometimes you feel compelled to. You know, catch, catch, a couple rays there was perfect.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I definitely feel you. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's a good weekend in New York City, kicked it. But Sunday is always the best. You just get back to the crib, kick your feet up, get some grub and watch ball. That's exactly what we're about to talk about. But first things first man. Hey man, arthur Blank. Sunday Night Football, big Nick the Quick put himself in the ring of honor in his own stadium. Hey man, look, you own the team. All right, my brother. First of all, you don't got no titles, we can start there. You don't got no titles, we can start there. I'm trying to figure out the thought process. Like you know, when these decisions are made, nick, people are sitting down around a table and everybody's like so what do you think about? You know Arthur putting his name in the ring of honor? Or did Arthur just walk in like yeah, we putting my shit on the?
Speaker 1:ring of Arthur, the ring of honor versus versus the Chiefs.
Speaker 2:This is what we're doing.
Speaker 1:I think that that has to be what it is, because usually a ring of honor is for people who are no longer actively involved in the franchise. Like if you had told me like, oh, they're gonna put Julio Jones in the ring of honor. If you had told me they're gonna put Mike Vic in the ring of honor, if you had told me they're going to put Mike Vick in the ring of honor, if you had told me they're going to put shout out, michael the burner Turner in the ring of honor somebody like that I'd be like okay, I understand. Arthur blank still currently owns the team. He is the owner of the Falcons, it is his team, so you're honoring him as he currently owns the team. To your point. He hasn't won any titles, uh, whatever, I think that that's almost secondary.
Speaker 1:I think the biggest thing is he currently owns the team and any decision that goes through the atlanta falcons ultimately gets signed off by arthur blank, meaning that at some point in time, he either a came up with this idea or be, at the very least, signed off on it and was like yes, this is a good idea. So I thought it was hilarious. Man, they shot to goodell and there's wife. They're like goodell's in the building tonight, obviously to catch the game with his wife, but he's here for arthur blank's ring of honor and I immediately started just dying. I should have hit you and just been like, hey, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2:but wait what we brought it up this morning hey, and I'm not, look man, you you know I'm saying you've had a great life. You got your bread. I think it's the Home Depot.
Speaker 1:Money is where he got his bread, he's got Home.
Speaker 2:Depot money. Yeah, he's got a lot of money. He got the Home Depot bread. He's been a decent owner throughout the years. Great building down there. I've been there a few times. Mercedes-benz, get down there if you can. Food is cheap. Beautiful building, sheep, beautiful building. I've actually seen football. I saw the Falcons and I've seen MLS. They got the big MLS squad down there. Everybody seems to love. Yeah, yeah, all good, great job.
Speaker 2:Hey man, you know what the classy way to go about this would be like? Hey man, put it, talk to your people and people and, when I pass, put me up in the ring of honor. Man, I would like that. That'd be cool To decide you're going to go in the ring of honor and walk down on the field and wave to the crowd. Thank you, almost thank you for allowing me into the ring of honor. That you put in and decided is a little hilarious. So, hey man, we talk about not giving people their flowers before they go. Well, arthur Blake wants to take it. No chances, my brother, he's going. Y'all are going to honor me. He's going to give me his flowers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm giving out flowers. I'm not waiting for nothing. All right, I want y'all to tell me how great I am. Thank you so much. First off, I want to thank the Falcons organization, aka myself. I want to thank the Falcons organization what? Kind of speech do you give right? I remember when I first bought this team. Shout out to you, man. And listen, though, man. When you got that kind of money, you do what you want. Arthur Blank's not worried about what we think about it this morning.
Speaker 2:That's a fact.
Speaker 1:God damn it. I'm going to the Ring of Honor on a Sunday night and that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Arthur Blank feeling good.
Speaker 1:Hey, I'm signing off on the check. Tell Roger he better be out here too. Hey, I'm signing off on the check. Tell Roger he better be out here too.
Speaker 2:Roger, better come out here, whoever else is available, better come out here too. Yeah, because I pay his check too, because we pay his salary.
Speaker 1:I pay all of y'all, so everybody's coming out.
Speaker 2:With the whole organization here. Hey look, we always talk about not giving folks their flowers. Well, arthur blake was taking no chances. He, he went, he went down the street to pick up his own flowers. So I feel it, uh, I amen. That's. That's funny.
Speaker 1:That needed to be talked about nobody loves you like you love yourself. So shout out arthur blank man amen.
Speaker 2:look, hey, stop recording athletes out in the street. Stop recording celebrities and then tricking on them. They can't live their regular life. Cj Abrams of the Nationals gets caught, I don't know playing roulette blackjack valleys downtown Chicago. It gets to who it needs to get to and he gets demoted. Man they sent him down to the minors Ends up costing him like $ 30K on a game check. I don't know if they brought him back up or whatever.
Speaker 1:Oh, I did hear about this. Okay, yeah, he was there until like 3 in the morning, right, they said it was 8.
Speaker 2:Until 8 in the morning. They said they had a day game 120 at Wrigley. He was at the casino at 8.
Speaker 1:That's rough. Now, if I was to know he thought he was Mike. He thought he was Mike.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look. Hey, andy didn't help, he went 0 for 3 in the game, but like 8. Now look.
Speaker 1:Listen, on a road trip. That's not, that's rough In Chicago 8. He must have been on a road trip. That's not a vegas yeah, that's rough in chicago. Hey, he must have been on a heater or he was chasing or he was chasing the epic chase.
Speaker 2:Yeah so, cj, but it happens all the time. Yeah so cj ends getting caught, ends up going up the food chain. Lamar Jackson is on a jet Wait real quick.
Speaker 1:Is he a star? Cj Abrams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a young dude.
Speaker 1:Okay, because most baseball players could be inconspicuous and be there and you wouldn't even know. But is he the type of guy you would recognize?
Speaker 2:Yeah, young dude, he just made his first all-star team.
Speaker 1:Okay so he's a Okay. Yeah, it's not like some random third baseman, who's just chilling. Yeah, okay, not a good idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly so, but it's a problem because I feel like I don't get the. I guess people want to report stuff and have fun with it, I guess, but I don't get it. I don't really get it. And have fun with it, I guess, but I don't get it I don't really get it.
Speaker 1:And, lamar Jackson, I don't like the recording culture either. It's out of control.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shit is corny. And Lamar Jackson. Marlon Humphries is recording Lamar Jackson on the private flight back to post-game last night after the Cowboys game hey, lamar, how you feel about getting a win? Lamar clearly trying to chill. He not worried about talking to Lamar Humphries, but it is what it is. So, hey, man, stop recording folks if you don't got to man. You know what I'm saying. That's it. That's all. Let's get to the topic at hand before we run out of time here. On no ketchup. We got to start with the Chicago Bears. That's our squad and it's also one of the biggest talking points in the NFL. I would say it's important what's going on out there in Chicago.
Speaker 1:My man said out there in Chicago oh boy, everybody, everybody hear that Out there in Chicago. My man said out there in Chicago, oh boy, everybody, everybody hear that Out there in Chicago, we got a New Yorker on our hands.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, up there in.
Speaker 1:Chicago no no, no. True National TV guy? No, no, no, they removed that Chicago flow. That's Brooklyn flow, right Over there where y'all are.
Speaker 2:This is a national show oh man, no catch-up national show.
Speaker 2:We talk everything across the country. So yeah, in Chicago, my hometown, you know, they go to Indianapolis. Oh, the number going in there short underdog plus one and a half. A very, very, very winnable game. You're not going to see quarterback play from the opposing team. That poor. They lose 21-16. I'll let you kick it off. Big Nick to quit. There's a lot of things going on here. Late touchdown makes it closer than it even looked for the teaser. People out there in the street. Caleb throws for 325 plus, but he also threw it 50 plus times 52 times last week 43 last week.
Speaker 2:I think the rush game is legitimately non-existent. And, by the way, going into the game, let me give you some numbers, big Nick, to quit Going into the game. The Colts 29th in overall expected points added. The pass defense was 31st in EPA. The past defense was 31st in EPA. 29th and third down percentage allowed. 26th in the red zone. 24th in points allowed per drive. So the defense is shit, so a bad defense that we looked to have an opportunity to expose and did the opposite.
Speaker 1:And you add that to a quarterback who at every opportunity it seemed like wanted to give the game to the Bears, right, I'm sure Anthony Richardson is a great guy. I understand that there are some physical skills there that you just can't coach right. We saw some players, we all saw the throw in week one, 70 yards in the air on a rope. There's a lot of that there and I understand how tantalizing it could be. And I understand how tantalizing it could be those interceptions, those turnovers, the decision-making, the accuracy, or lack thereof, nonexistent, and those turnovers are egregious, right. So far this year we've seen Will Levis and Anthony Richardson and these have to be two of the worst turnover quarterbacks in the NFL. I know we're going to talk a little bit about the no-fly zone for gambling later, but I can tell you that Anthony Richardson is firmly parked in the NFL. I know we're going to talk a little bit about the no-fly zone for gambling later, but I can tell you that Anthony Richardson is firmly parked in the no-fly zone for me after yesterday's performance, right. So, with all that being said, 100% agree, 100% winnable game and the Bears at no point in time. And again, yeah, the late score makes it deceiving.
Speaker 1:The Bears did not score until the field goal in the third quarter. Offense was non-existent Same problems that we've seen over the last couple of weeks. We can talk about the offensive line, we can talk about the play calling. I know we'll get to that fourth down call, but even beyond that fourth down call, still plenty of situations where it's second and five or six and we're looking for 30. It's third and four, we're looking for 30. We're running empty backfields. We're not doing anything that even involves max protection. It's still teams beating us four on five, mind you, four on five. So understand what happens when a team is rushing four, that is seven guys left to stop the potential pass play. So Caleb is seeing nothing but guys in his face and then, when he looks forward, a ton of traffic right Dropping seven, not allowing them to do anything. He's still trying to make plays that aren't there.
Speaker 1:It was all messy man, it couldn't get any worse. And again you're wasting another great defensive effort. If we want to be completely honest, this defense is lights out right. There are some opportunities in this defense, in particular with the pass rush. But absent of a pass rush, this defense is still playing excellent and you're wasting it and they kept you in that game and you couldn't do anything about it. So again, I know I'm kind of getting ahead of myself here, but that's just. That's just how I'm feeling, man. I mean this is. It's ridiculous, man. We've been talking about it on this show for years. I've been saying it for years you build from the trenches, and those are two areas where the bears are completely missing right, your offensive line and defensive line. You're not getting anything. Um, so while it's nice to have all these shiny toys you know dj moore, keenan allen, and when he plays roma dunze, if you can't block anybody, it doesn't matter deandre swift carries nine of them up the middle. I don't understand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in postgame they asked him. They said where's your frustration level? He said it's high, because I think we're all. Deandre Swift said that. They asked him where's your frustration level with the run game? He said high. And we're also getting to the point where it's like DeAndre Swift is garbage and it's like no, I don't think that's true either. It's not what I think there's absolutely nowhere to go.
Speaker 1:What they're doing and you're playing them out of position. It's like putting a slot receiver at tight end. It's not what I do. I am an explosive guy. You need to get me out in space. I need to get the ball in space. I thought he was. We talked about this in the group chat. I thought he was fine in the passing game. That's the type of back he is. He is not Derrick Henry. You can't run him out of a single backfield, send him up the two hole and be like yeah, man, make it happen. That's not what he does.
Speaker 2:I tweeted out they're running DeAndre Swift up the middle like he's Earl Campbell. Yeah, it's not what he does, and I was under the impression when he came to town. Okay, we got the big boy back in Juice Herbert. We got the because, if you remember, it was bruiser on bruiser. It was David Montgomery. And then we had another bruiser in Khalil Herbert. It was two bruisers.
Speaker 1:I love it. Hey talking my language.
Speaker 2:So then I'm like, okay, we're going to go get a guy that can make stuff happen in space, and then we have a bruiser that can similar to what's going on in Detroit. We got Gibbs who can make things happen in space, and then when it's time to pick up three or four, we give it to Montgomery. We'd give it to Herbert. Roshon. Johnson looked a little better yesterday as well, but that was what I thought. Three weeks in a row we've come out and been trying to pound the pound the rock up the middle, with no push, no offensive line strategy, no zone reads. It's just isos up the middle with deandre swift and he's getting cracked. Let's get to the real elephant in the room.
Speaker 2:Caleb Williams has shown tons of flashes of like. I see it, it's there. Let's just get the guy opportunity to where he can show this as much as possible. I've seen the spin out of the pocket, rolling left, throw back right on the money for 12 yards. He did that yesterday. I've seen the deep ball completion. I've seen him miss a couple deep balls as well, but I see the vision. I never really saw the Trubisky vision of him being a great quarterback. I saw the vision with Justin Fields of being a great quarterback, but the staff and what was going on behind the scenes just was never conducive to making him into a great player, and he wasn't as complete a quarterback, as I think that Caleb probably is at this point, even though we haven't got a chance to see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct.
Speaker 2:I see the flashes with Caleb Williams. Let's talk about some of these decisions. There is never a time in the NFL you should be calling a timeout after a touchdown.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've never seen it, Nick Nick.
Speaker 2:I called you right after that.
Speaker 1:I've never seen it.
Speaker 2:Nick, I actually sat down and was trying to figure out a situation where it would be like, oh, maybe you score a touchdown at the end of the game and you need a two-point conversion. You're going for a two-point conversion to win and you come out and you don't like the look Time out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, but the clock is not running, so there's no reason. Even in a fourth quarter, with one second left, you don't do it because the clock is not right. It's a non-clocked play. I.
Speaker 2:It's unbelievable the fact that no one seemed to know that they were going for two. After a score. There is purely coaching Wrong team running out on the field. Purely coaching, nick, you know what it might be. We're not even expecting the score. We're so worried about trying to score. We're not thinking about what happens after that. Yep, it's like man, let's just hope we can score this motherfucker. Yeah, if we score, oh damn, we actually did score. Let's try to figure oh, we got to go for two timeout. Well, what are we doing so that all falls at on Matt Eberflus and the coaching staff?
Speaker 1:Without a doubt, and you can even take it back to going into half. If you remember going into half. The bears got very lucky that they got that once. I mean they didn't make anything out of it, but they got that one second left to run that hail mary at the end of the half, because the play before that, linemen are walking up to the ball. This, this, is situational football. What happens in that situation? You get to the line of scrimmage as fast as possible and you clock the ball right. You spike the ball to stop the clock. Caleb is trying to get guys to go. Linemen are literally walking to the line. That is unprepared. That falls on head coaching. So, yeah, you take it to that touchdown.
Speaker 1:I I to your point. I can't think of any time where I called you right away. I said did he just call a timeout after a touchdown because you had the wrong guys on the field? Like, what are you doing out there? Are you too busy watching the Caleb Williams and Roman Dunze? Let me hide the ball from you. Celebration to not understand that. You are in the midst of situational football right now. You need to have that play ready. That play should be worked on throughout the week. Hey, if we find ourselves the good teams, they work on all that shit throughout the week so that when it happens in a game, everybody knows what to do. You practice that stuff. You practice two-minute drills, you practice situational football. If you are a good football team, it was clear they didn't. There shouldn't even have been a thought. If I'm Santos, I'm sitting on the bench still after that touchdown. I'm not even thinking about getting up, I'm not even grabbing my helmet because we practiced this.
Speaker 1:He continually fails in situational football things. He continually fails in game management. Right, we talk about last week with the dumb challenges, those cost timeouts. You talk about this week burning that timeout. Then they burned another timeout later in the fourth quarter. So you're left in the game with one timeout left and you're trying to drive down the field. These are the things that, unless even if you are a coach who's out there calling the plays which he's not you have to be rock solid on this.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk about the Steelers and Mike Tomlin later. We know Mike Tomlin doesn't know where the playbook is. It has no input. It doesn't call the plays. That's not what he's here for. He is managing the game, managing the week and managing the situations, so you don't see stuff like that. My job is to manage the game. Ibrabraflus is not doing that right. So many different decisions, man. We can go throughout the entire year.
Speaker 1:They're lucky they won that first game, had it not been for Will Levis again one of the most egregious turnovers we may ever see. When they're up in a game and driving down the field about to score a field goal, the Bears are 0-3, with no hope, absolutely zero hope. So yeah, man, this is. It falls on Ibraflues, it falls on the organization for again, not understanding where they were with the offensive line and defensive line.
Speaker 1:And again, I love toys, man. I love receivers, I love gadget running backs, but I know that, no matter what, give meady, give me my homes, give me joe montana, give me johnny unitas. I have never seen a quarterback throw from their back, never seen it. I don't care who it is. So you talk about caleb and all these flashes that he has. They're absolutely there, but he has no time to do anything, he's just playing in hero mode. This is how quarterbacks develop bad habits. I was watching Kyler Murray yesterday. Kyler Murray's a lot of fun to watch. Man Highlight plays all that, but all that losing that he did early in his career. He has some terrible habits. He's just out there throwing the ball. If you watch some of that Cardinals game yesterday, he's just out there launching the ball.
Speaker 2:Bad habits. This game yesterday he's just out there launching the ball and sometimes you have a game like last week, where you're perfect and you throw four touchdowns. Then the next week it's not as tuned.
Speaker 1:You can't play ball like that. Week to week in the NFL, week to week in the NFL you can't. So that's where we're at with Caleb man. The offensive line is atrocious Like atrocious. The Bears have had some lines before where I'm like man. This is bad. This is one of the worst. These guys can't block anybody. I mean, they honestly cannot block anybody. He has no time to do anything and I know again we'll get to that fourth down call. But even before that, watch that whole drive. Do you remember the second down? He Watch that whole drive. Do you remember the second down? He had DeAndre Carter trying to chip a defensive end. Deandre Carter is your sixth receiver and a special teams guy and you have him trying to chip Kyle Van Noy and after the play, carter looks at the sidelines like what are you doing? This is not what I do?
Speaker 2:What are we doing here?
Speaker 1:Why is he in there? In that situation, what personnel package at the goal line says let's put DeAndre Carter on the edge to block a pass rusher?
Speaker 2:That's three times his size. Yeah, it's just not the design. It has no business being there Also another no business. This is two straight weeks also of Cole Komet getting absolutely beat like a drum by pass rushers that he can't handle. He's not a blocking tight end. This is not George Kittle.
Speaker 1:And that's okay. Yeah, this is a Gronkowski.
Speaker 2:Right. So he's great in the pass game, but this is multiple weeks in a row now where he's getting smoked on blocking assignments.
Speaker 1:And why is Mercedes Lewis on the roster if you don't use him in that situation?
Speaker 2:And speaking of Mercedes Lewis shop man, salute to my brother man, 40 years old, still in the league. He needs no snaps. Let him chat with whoever and bring the morale. That's two snaps, two false starts, two weeks in a row. That's bad. He doesn't need to be on the field, bro. From what I could tell, we have other people. We got Gerald Everett, we have Cole Kermit.
Speaker 1:He doesn't need to be on the pitch at all, Just sign a blocking tight end, right Correct, and people are like, oh, you might be telegraphing when you bring it, it doesn't matter, hey, it doesn't matter. I watched Baltimore yesterday in the first half telegraph all day with Derrick. If Derrick Henry's in the game, he's getting the ball.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's correct If.
Speaker 1:Justice.
Speaker 2:Hill is in the game. They're throwing a rock.
Speaker 1:Stop it. You don't have to do all this fancy shit Again. The fourth down play we'll get to it, but you don't have to do all that. You don't have to wildcat with Juice Herbert, line up in the I formation, hand the ball and fucking play one-on-one football and try to win.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, let me stop you there, because it's tough, because it's clear they can't win up front, right? So maybe that's why Waldron is running shit like wildcat and doing all that. I will say this, the and doing all that. I will say this the first time we see Juice, herbert can't be the Wildcat. The Wildcat, all right, because is that 24 back? Oh, he's running this bitch up the middle. It's the first time we had saw Juice all game from our recollection. So those are the type of things Now.
Speaker 1:And I know he doesn't play because pass blocking is a major issue for him, right, he is a terrible, terrible.
Speaker 2:I actually don't, I actually no one else but.
Speaker 1:But I don't, but no one else can block.
Speaker 2:So why it's not like we got ringers back there, not like Roshan Johnson is a ringer in the pass block game, like juice deserves probably some more time than he's getting. And we just talked about that off the top, talking about going up the middle. But, but we could talk about this all day long. Let's get to that fourth down speed option. You got the picture? No, I can put it in. I'll put the picture up the entire offensive line on the ground. I've never seen it, and last week the Colts were the, the um. Who'd the Colts play last week? Green Bay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They were. They were running speed option. Green Bay was and it was working and they ran it a few times. I didn't. I didn't see this. I was just reading about and hearing about why potentially they would have run a speed option on fourth down. And then Caleb talked about it in the postgame presser. He said, yeah, we thought we had an advantage from the film that we watched from last week, but they didn't react to it the same way this week. Right before that speed option, I had talked about getting Caleb's legs involved more. I wasn't talking about running the speed option, not on fourth down. Nick the Quick, talk to me about your thoughts on that fourth down. And it makes it so much worse because the first, second and third down play were all horrific and then we capped it with a speed option.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean, look, you already brought up Cole Komet. I don't know why he doesn't see the ball in that situation. From what I remember last year, cole Komet was great in the red zone for Justin Fields last year, right, especially in the back half of the season, caught quite a few touchdowns back there. I mean, if you want to get creative, that's fine, right, I think the Chiefs got a lot of people fooled, like the fun time situation when they get in the red zone and you start doing crazy shit. You are not that.
Speaker 1:If your line can't block, why are you asking all of them to pull and run a speed option? They're not getting any push, they're not stopping anybody. So you want a play that takes a little bit longer to develop and essentially gives all these guys a free run at your, at your running back, and your quarterback, caleb, could have kept it. Same result you pitch it back to Swift. You lose 10 yards on the fourth out, fourth and goal line play. That, that that's a first. You lose 10 yards on a fourth and goal play, right. So from a play call in perspective, yeah, I mean the whole, the whole drive was egregious, that whole situation down.
Speaker 2:There was egregious, here it is. That's how you end it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is this a picture?
Speaker 2:First of all, if you go all the way back, I don't even think we got that fourth and one with Roshon Johnson. I think we were short and we got gifted the next set of downs, yeah, then we come out and we run wildcatcher khalil herbert up the middle. Second and goal khalil herbert up the middle for one yard carter one yep, yep, third and goal up the middle.
Speaker 1:Khalil herbert fourth, and goal speed option speed option like it's 1995 tomm Frazier in Nebraska. Eric Crouch Eric Crouch, I don't know who you think you got back there. Major Applewhite, I don't know who you think you got back there. It was ridiculous man. And it's almost this guy. It's ridiculous man. There's no way. I don't care what you saw on film last week. You got to know where you are as a football team. This is not the play you call there. You are not that. You need to get some blocking to do that. You need to have competent offensive linemen. As a coach, you have to understand your strengths and weaknesses. When you're down there, run the little, play action, roll out, hit, commit in the flat. You're good to go. It's butter.
Speaker 2:That's it Also. Look, I know what the analytics say. It's a go for it. I get that. But when you know offensively because overall it was a good drive to get down there, and offensively you know you're not getting any push up front, the drives before that missed field goal to open the game, punt, punt, interception, then you finally get down there.
Speaker 2:If you don't feel confident, very confident, in a play, take the three. I'm not mad at taking the three in that spot, just get some because it's a backbreaker momentum wise and mentally wise. When you have a solid drive and then you get stuffed four straight times on the goal line, it's early enough in the game where I'm not mad. If you take three points there, well, I hate all four. I don't hate all four calls, but to run three runs up the middle in a row when we haven't been getting push the first three weeks and then run a speed option, that's just. I I can't stand the speed option. Call so all caleb and throw it to cole. There at some point needs to be some type of rollout situation with caleb because he can use his legs.
Speaker 1:He's showing so that was what I was getting is a great receiving tight end in the red zone. Also, let's talk about losing 10 yards there and what else that does. When you turn the ball over right. It's a difference between giving them the ball on the goal line in their own end zone, where you can potentially get in safety, or giving them daylight and room to breathe. So losing all those yards on that play, it helps them out again because it puts them in a situation where richardson's coming out there and he's not up against the goal line. That's the type of guy you want up against the goal line because he's going to give you one and you're going to take it back to the house.
Speaker 1:So not only do you call the wrong play that doesn't get you six, you call a play that gives them back 10 yards and gives them better field position. That's why you can't call that play, because it not working isn't just losing points, you're re get, you're giving them back field position because that's a play that, if it doesn't work, you lose yards, that doesn't get stuffed at the line of scrimmage. And then again, when it makes it worse and we'll put the picture up with the uh, with the, with the video of this that every single lineman is on their ass. Linemen are supposed to be putting people on their ass. They're supposed to be collecting pancakes, not ending a play on the ground, and that's symbolic of this whole year.
Speaker 1:If you watch a lot of Bears players we have a lot of Bears players our linemen end up on the ground. It's a problem. Listen, man, I will talk about this forever. If you cannot protect your quarterback, you cannot win in this league. New england won six super bowls by making sure that brady was upright and if you gave up a sack, you didn't see the next sunday yeah, you gotta, they gotta, figure that out, man, you have to figure it out you can't do anything.
Speaker 2:The entire podcast could just be talking about the offensive line and the offensive line play you can't do.
Speaker 1:I think if you were to ask most court, all quarterbacks, nfl, hey, would I rather have the fancy receiver or a fucking dependable left tackle. They're all gonna take a. I'll figure it out, I'll get the ball to somebody. I just can't be on my ass. Nothing has time to develop for the bears. I mean, guys are back there right away. There's no initial push. You're not getting beat on swim moves and stunts and all this. They're beating you straight up. We're beating you at the point of attack. Watch some of that.
Speaker 1:How many times are Bears players moving backwards on pass blocks? How many times are they moving backwards on run blocks where you're supposed to be running forward? You can't pass block. You can't run block. Usually you can do one of the two. They can't pass block or run block. And like I want to get on polls as far as like hey, you know from a, but hey darn no right to first round pick. So you have, tevin jenkins is a second round pick. You're failing on these guys right now. So listen man, that's the problem and that won't fix itself. You can't. You can't scheme around bad line play. You can't do it. You really can't. That's a problem. That's a problem for the next four, 15 weeks.
Speaker 2:I don't know how you fix that yeah, a couple of bad picks, a couple of bad picks from caleb whatever as well, but this isn't about that. I agree.
Speaker 1:He's running for his life. Man, you're going to throw bad picks. Anybody will. If quarterbacks are under pressure all the time, things are moving. It's already moving fast for them. This is the NFL. This is his third game. Things are already moving fast, right. As an offensive coordinator, as a coaching staff, you need to slow it down for your rookie quarterback. You need to give them things they can handle. You need to get them into a rhythm. That's why you see a lot of teams come out. A couple short passes get you into the rhythm. We're not necessarily as focused on scoring a touchdown in the first and second drives as we are starting to establish some type of identity with our quarterback and up front. You can't do that because on the first play of the game he's running for his life. Second play of the game he's running for his life. Third play of the game he's running for his life. And by the second quarter he's just playing hero ball. He starts to anticipate the rush. You know it's coming.
Speaker 2:So even when you have a clean, pocket.
Speaker 2:you still feel pressure, Not too many guys can overcome that, and that's a perfect segue into Matt LaFleur around the shield, the NFL and talking about Malik Willis and the greenback Packers. Because Malik Willis can't hold Caleb Williams, Doc strap can't tie his Nikes up and Matt LaFleur has Malik Willis playing ball. It's just two straight weeks now. Malik Willis has looked serviceable. A guy that we thought had no business even being in the NFL has looked serviceable. He opened the game on the road in Tennessee. Two 30-yard completions, a couple runs and they scored. They went up 7-0 in two minutes and 10 seconds, or something like that. First couple minutes of the game it was 7-0. And I'm watching closely because I got money on the Titans, which is unbelievable. We'll get to that. Matt LaFleur.
Speaker 2:What have we always said? Nick, the most important people on your football team are your quarterback, your left tackle and an edge, and then, as the years have gone on, it's like I think the offensive coordinator is number the second most important. I'm starting to think nick, the offensive mind in the building is the most important guy on the field. I'm waiting for some of these offensive coordinators to start asking for head coaching dollars. You know what? Keep that fucking head coaching title. I don't even want that Just give me this.
Speaker 2:Just give me this $6 million, $6.5 million, $7.5 million per. You can keep the HC title. And let me focus on the office, because it is that important. Let me focus on developing these quarterbacks, because if you look around the league, these quarterbacks Because if you look around the league, matt LaFleur seems to have is one of those ones, one of those guys top three, top four coach in the NFL offensively can scheme you into Ws. He's done it two weeks in a row. Okay, we got to run the ball 60 times. No problem, we'll do that. Here you go, we get it done. We get the win Next week. They think we're going to run it a bunch because we just did that last week. But I'm going to come out on the first two drives and throw it down the field and have Malik have easy throws for two plus 30-yard completions. No problem, I'm going to scheme that up, I'm going to put that into the script.
Speaker 2:On the first drive, sam Darnold has the Vikings being talked about as if they're the best team in the NFL. We will find out if that's true, but they just dusted off the Texans. Yeah, completely dusted them off. And that's coming off of a win against the san francisco 49ers who are sure a little banged up. We'll get to them as well coming into the league coming into the year. We talked about the niners not being as deep. They have mcafree, debo, kittle, brandon iu ju Juwan Jennings now is one of those ones as well. But if one of those guys goes down, they I don't know. I didn't know the backup to McCaffrey till week one. I don't know the rest of the guys in that room offensively, so they were very top heavy in their room. They're now dealing with that now.
Speaker 2:But Kevin O'Connell has Sam Darnold looking like a guy and I sent this through the group chat. I saw a tweet. I did not realize this. Sam Darnold is younger than Joe Burrow. Let me repeat that is younger than Joe Burrow. Let me repeat that Sam Darnold, New York Jets. Sam Darnold, carolina Panthers. Sam Darnold, san Francisco 49ers. Sam Darnold, minnesota Vikings. Quarterback. Sam Darnold is younger than Joe Burrow. Go look it up if you don't believe me. It's months. But yes, he's younger than Joe Burrow. I couldn't believe that when I saw it. Kevin O'Connell has that man balling. We know what Andy Reid does for Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2:This is about scheme. The NFL is about scheme and if you can't coach up your guys, doesn't matter how talented they are, they're going to fail, period point blank. You have to be the one percenters to overcome that type of just play-to-play game, week-to-week game plans that are not conducive to your talents and working around what you can do on the field. So, nick, I'm starting to feel that the number one most important people in the building is the offensive mind the quarterback, then the left tackle, then the edge, then the head coach. It's starting to get there, because what I'm seeing offensively out of some of these guys that we were essentially writing off for dust If you look who's holding the clipboard it's some special offensive guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I still think that, no matter how well you can coach, if the line's collapsing on you left and right, it doesn't really matter. Yeah, you might be able to find some schematical scheme advantages to that, but yeah, I understand where you're going ultimately, um, yes, for sure you know you're also the guy you're determining if the people up front are good enough yeah, well, 100. Right, we talk about shanahan. Shanahan has trent williams. Uh, that makes things a lot easier for you.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, absolutely. I'm not even trying, I don't want to make it sound like I'm disagreeing. I a thousand percent agree with you. You need to have a competent play caller who understands the strengths and weaknesses of their team and draws up a game plan around it, right? So you talk about Andy Reed, you talk about Shanahan. Even going back to Mike Shanahan, there's a reason why they can plug and play running backs. They understand how to get these guys in space and to take advantage of what they're good at. A hundred percent, man, I don't disagree.
Speaker 1:And when you see the opposite of it that's what you see in the Bears, right, what unlocked Lamar? Right, bringing in Munkin and having him run an offense that's suitable to Lamar because what they were doing before didn't work. If you look at the Bills in the back half of the year, right when they moved on from Ken Dorsey and brought in Joe Brady, it completely changed everything. Right, even when you have a Josh because we remember at them you have a Josh Allen and I get we've talked about this before it's tempting to throw the ball 50 times. When you have a Josh Allen, joe Brady goes in there and says, hey, we have to run the ball. Right, we have to be able to establish the run. That is important to us. We can't have Josh do anything if we can't establish the run. So, understanding that, being in your quarterback's ear, having that relationship with them we watch hard knocks I didn't see Shane Waldron say anything right and the conversations with Eberflues and, uh and um, caleb Williams, extremely awkward, extremely awkward.
Speaker 1:Right, he has no pulse on what's going on there. So I hate to keep bringing it back to the Bears, but, yeah, it's right there. The recipe, the formula, all that is right there for you and too many teams don't pay attention to it and that's how you ruin young quarterbacks. So, yeah, lefleur, understanding last week, hey, a malik willis, he wasn't expecting to play this week. Um, we got to run a game plan. That's gonna get him comfortable. They threw the ball 17 times last week. This week throws it a little bit more allows malik to take a couple more shots that he didn't allow him to take last week, but they still ran the ball 37 times for 188 yards. That is commitment, right, that makes it so easy for malik, because when he drops backs and looks out there, defenses have to respect their ability to run, so he's seeing a little bit of a cleaner pocket it all starts seeing less defensive backs out there and that's where it goes from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, establish the run and the floor understands that. That's a commitment again, teams that the past has become so prevalent in the nfl that there's a huge opportunity to take advantage of running the football. Look at what baltimore did to dallas yesterday. Look what everybody's done to dallas this year. Yeah, they stop the run you can't stop. The they're at dallas is giving up five and a half yards per carry.
Speaker 1:That's epic all right, so run the ball, understanding that I don't care if I have Patrick Mahomes, larry Fitzgerald and fucking Jerry Rice. If you're giving up five and a half yards a carry, I am going to run the ball on you every single time until you can stop. Talk about the Bears Teams. Know that you don't need to rush. You don't need to send any blitzes, rush four, Beat them one-on-one. It's pretty straightforward here.
Speaker 2:I got a hot take for you A couple weeks down the road, maybe four or five weeks from now. Cowboys are two and five. Yeah, Something of this sort, Without a doubt.
Speaker 1:Three and six. They can't stop. That's bad run defense.
Speaker 2:Micah Parsons will not be participating in weekly games. I don't know if Dak can do that now that he's got paid. Of course he has to play. He has to. The big fella doesn't have a deal yet and you can see they've been talking to him after games. He is beyond frustrated. They showed him on the sideline. He's beyond frustrated. He doesn't get to play his natural position because they try to move him around all over the place to make something happen. He can't, Can't do anything.
Speaker 1:Whenever they feel that a play needs to be made, they put him there. They put him there.
Speaker 2:He's just like a plug-and-play Phil dude.
Speaker 1:Go play middle linebacker Instead of like the Bosa brothers just continue to come off the edge, those dudes almost like Nick almost just kicks it until third down he's like, oh, it's third down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, okay, we're going to get to it. Let's get to it then. So that is extremely unfortunate for him and what they got him doing. I'd be very interested to see how his motivation looks, how his attitude looks comes in the middle of the season when he doesn't have a deal. The team is clearly going nowhere and I just can't see him bringing it and risking getting injured. I would be shocked if Micah Parsons played more than 12 or 13 games this year. Any, nick, he should sit and most likely will sit. Stay tuned on that. We talked about Sam Darnold. We talked about Coach of the Year, potentially to kick off the season, and Matt LaFleur Nick, wrote in the rundown, put a fork in him Dallas Cowboys, miami Dolphins, cleveland Browns, russell Wilson, which will lead us into the Justin Fields talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm putting a fork in the Dolphins for the year. I think Tua's obviously going to miss what three more games. It's going to be tough for them to come back. Cowboys we just talked about If you can't stop the run, forget about it, especially with Saquon in the division. Now right, with the Browns, division's just going to be tough, man. You know Cincinnati's going to bounce back. We could talk about the Steelers at 3-0. Right now they seem to have found the winning formula. And Russell Wilson hey man, it's a great career, made a lot of money, phenomenal career. It's a great career, made a lot of money, phenomenal career.
Speaker 2:It's probably done. Super Bowl champ.
Speaker 1:We'll never see the field again.
Speaker 2:He should and if he wants, he could be a backup in the league for the next five seasons, easily, yep. So it is what it is I got to pull up. It is what it is I got to pull up. Deshaun Watson had eight sacks against the New York Giants, who are I wouldn't say they're threatening in the least. They're not a threatening ball club, we'll put it like that. And Stefanski is a guy. Offensively, that is one of those guys. Yeah, we've seen that throughout the years.
Speaker 1:So, but he can't do it with watson yeah, a lot of questions bad situation, man, overall it's just tough division to not be able to figure it out in.
Speaker 2:Yeah and we talked about it before, when you're off the field, shit is noisy. Yep, very difficult to be quiet on the field. It gets noisy on the field as well.
Speaker 1:But let's talk about justin fields yeah, guys, that's what I was gonna say. I know, I know we're short on time, but I want to make sure that we do give Justin Fields and talk about giving flowers. Listen, man, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I'll let you set it up. No, go ahead, there's nothing to set up. He went into the season where Tomlin refused to name the starting quarterback. It was pretty known throughout the league that Russell Wilson was going to get the nod, for whatever reason. I'm not sure, because going into the year it's very it was very obvious that Russell Wilson was an insurance policy. They're paying him a million and a half dollars.
Speaker 2:We already know what Russell Wilson is as a quarterback and he's on a one year. It was clear to me that we need to figure out as a Steelers organization Is Justin Fields our guy Because he's going to be up for a deal? He's going to want a new deal if he is the guy. So we need to find out. If he's the guy, let's play him, see if we got a guy that we think we can build around and then go from there. Is the second chapter actually the one that unlocks the the future longevity of him having a full-time nfl quarterback career? He wasn't getting the opportunity at first. Russell wilson pulls a hammy. Whatever happened. Something was fishy around that, by the way. Tomlin didn't. Tomlin didn't wasn't buying it. Tomlin didn't see too pleased with Russell Wilson when they asked him about him after week one.
Speaker 2:But now he said well, worry about the guys who are here Like yeah, he just gave it to Tomlin. Yeah, he, yes, he gave him. He was very edgy about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Justin Fields now comes in, though, they're 3-0, a team that you know didn't have a lot of expectations. The division we know is one of the best in in football, or is it? Well, we don't? I don't know. We talked about the, the NFC North, being one of the best, and that's looking like it's coming to fruition, um, with the Bears even being really bad. So question marks there, but their 3-0 Justin Fields looked sensational yesterday. He he's playing within himself, he's using his legs. He's not only using his legs, he's using them when he needs to. He's making plays, ball's moving. They're scoring. That's it. They're winning.
Speaker 1:Defense is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:The defense is lights out. We talked about the first two weeks of them benefiting from a plus five on the turnover differential, but they got guys over there defensively. And when we talk about Patrick Queen, he's unbelievable. What a signing. Cam Hayward he's a problem. Joey Porter Jr is a problem, playing corner he's awesome. Minka is the man. Bama guy we know how he gets down. They got guys man and this guy TJ.
Speaker 1:Watt bro, the best non-quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2:I don't know where he gets this motor, bro, he's awesome. Every play he is on motherfuckers ass, bro, and it's always in the fourth quarter when it matters. Yeah it's like he's a closer, he's a defensive, closer he's. He's a closer mariano rivera.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is mariano.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is clear towards the end of the game, he flat out has more juice than you. Yeah, yeah, you are on empty. I am not. That's what it looks like when TJ Watt lines up in the fourth quarter, every single game for years on end. Now I have more juice than you at the end of the game Period, taking your guy down, yep. My motor is better than yours. I want it more in the fourth Because the amount of close games the Pittsburgh Steelers have played the last four seasons Every week Every week I can't remember the last time they don't blow anybody out.
Speaker 1:They were losing for most of this game.
Speaker 2:The Steelers winning by 10 points this week. This week is a blowout for them. A blowout for them. That was a blowout. Tj Watt is unbelievable, so shout out TJ. Number 90 is different. And they asked Tomlin after yeah, go ahead To get back to Justin. He's playing ball. Go ahead, nick.
Speaker 1:He's playing ball and they asked. Tomlin is always noncommittal. They're like you know. They ask him something about Justin being the starter going forward. Tomlin said it very simply he's doing what we ask him to do and playing winning football. It's that simple. Go out there and win. That's what I guarantee In that locker room every single day. I guarantee you that dude. Go out there and just win. I don't care if it's pretty, I don't care if it makes the highlight reel.
Speaker 1:I watched that game yesterday. You can watch the Steelers game and fall asleep Like there's nothing going on there. That's too crazy or spectacular, but they just end up winning. Like I said, they were down 10-7 for most of that game. Justin makes a couple plays, puts the ball where it needs to be, the defense holds firm.
Speaker 1:Mike Tomlin doesn't make coaching mistakes. He doesn't do things that lose you the game. And now, with Fields, you add in that extra level. This guy can pick us up first downs when we need it. This guy can run in for touchdowns and we're building his confidence, like you could see Justin Postgame.
Speaker 1:They asked him, he goes. I'm not overthinking things, I'm not overprocessing. I'm just going out there and play. I guarantee you Mike is like, hey, man, just fucking go out there and play. I don't know. I had Kenny Pickett last year. I had Mason Rudolph last year. You're fine, trust me, we'll put you in a position Right. I've been winning with guys I had Ben Roethlisberger was dead the past five seasons in Pittsburgh and they were still winning games. It's not an accident that you don't have losing seasons over there, like there, like it's. It's just not. We have seen great teams have losing seasons. They don't do it. That that's. That's huge for justin. I love that he's taking advantage of the opportunity. Um, obviously I got a soft spot for justin from his time in chicago and just the whole thing. We did him dirty. I'm happy that he lands in a competent organization with a competent head coach, right, an organization that does things right way and look, he keeps this. Justin's going to be a rich man this summer, mike can win with that.
Speaker 1:Mike can win with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, look, they're still not throwing the ball downfield a ton, it's still close to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1:He still doesn't throw it over the middle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he throw it over the middle a little bit.
Speaker 1:I guess that touchdown was to the middle. Yeah, that touchdown was to the middle.
Speaker 2:Well, and that big play across the middle. Yeah yeah, the touchdown was across the middle. I mean, it was a lot of yak. He was throwing dimes. But yeah he threaded that Four completions over 10 yards, one over 20 to the sideline and yeah, I mean he only had six carries. They got our guy, mr Get a Touch. Cordell Patterson is over there. They got some guys over there.
Speaker 1:Mr, get a Touch Shout out Cordell.
Speaker 2:Patterson the standard is the standard baby. So yeah, man, shout out Justin Fields and him doing his thing Before we get out of here. Big Nick to quick. Oh man, you got some explaining to do. Yeah, man, look, I made big nick to quick.
Speaker 1:oh man, you got some explaining to do yeah, man, look, I made a mistake. Tell us what you did. Tell us what you did yesterday, man I.
Speaker 2:I was on the verge of having a huge day yesterday and I I fell into the, the analytics, everything, and going into the game, tennessee seemed like the side, numbers-wise, run, defense-wise, overall D-wise. They had been playing very solid and Levitz was just turning the ball over at an alarming rate and they couldn't respond. I talked about it. Malik Willis went down and scored on the opening drive. The script was perfect for Matt LaFleur 30-yard pass here, 30-yard pass there, couple runs, touchdown, green Bay's up 7-0. Well, the very next drive, tennessee came down and scored right back, 7-7. Okay, we're in this game. Defense gets a stop. I think they gave up three, but the defense was playing solid. Will Levis throws stop. I think they gave up three, but the defense was playing solid. Will levish throws a pick six to jair alexander just absolutely telegraphed, uh, an out route.
Speaker 1:I'm that man three straight weeks of pick six.
Speaker 2:I didn't do a pick six last week, but yeah he's two of the three weeks he has pick six and jair alexander just sat on this this out route or stop and just jumped it, no problem, almost like he knew exactly what was coming pick six, and the wind just absolutely came out of the sails. It's 17-7 now. Now we got to try to come back and shout out my guy Raheem Palmer of the Ringer. He tweeted out it seems as if this Bryce Young benching has made the Carolina Panthers defense better. Yeah, it seems as if this Bryce Young benching has made the Carolina Panthers defense better. Yeah, it does. That's how it works.
Speaker 2:When you know the offense can come out and actually potentially do something, you play a little harder on D, you get a few more stops on D. That Tennessee Titans team is going to flip on Will Levitz to where nobody cares, because they know when that. When the offense trots out there, it's a they're dead as a doornail. Yeah, that was one thing you never saw with Justin Fields in Chicago. It wasn't like man. No one believes in this kid and everything is dusted. That's what happened in Carolina and that's what's going to happen in Tennessee. I saw it with my own eyes yesterday after he threw the pick six. Everybody in the building, including the team, including the people on defense, knew they weren't going to be able to come back, so it was like, yeah, let's just go ahead and wrap this up.
Speaker 1:He saw his head coach last week look him dead in the face and say what the fuck are you doing, right, I think, straight weeks with three just egregious turnovers that happen when you are in a position to win the game or at least take a lead, um, and, and you can't do that, it's backbreaking, right. So all that to say, yesterday, sean put money on will levis man and we, I feel like we, we talk about this, we talk about every year there's a, there's a qb, no fly list, right, I'm very firm on this sometimes kirk cousins has occupied that, uh, that terminal for me for a while of just of just the no fly list.
Speaker 1:Like I said earlier in the show, I set it up a bit anthony richardson no fly list will levis domestic terrorist, absolutely no fly list. Um, you know these. These are the guys who, when I'm looking at a game right, I know we talk about it, I know you're big on this and obviously anybody who's good at picking games you look at the number, right, you try your best to look at the situation, look at the number, take your personal bias out of it and just try to be analytical, like you said.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what you try to do, yeah.
Speaker 1:And we talk about that. But there's one thing that we always talk about our eyes. What have we seen right? And we have seen will levis and we understand. I don't care if will levis is getting 40 against utep no fly right, it's so yeah you got it, you got it.
Speaker 1:You got to hold firm on this with certain guys, right, they are just no flies. Daniel Jones, I don't care how good that looked yesterday and it did look a little tasty, right, we know the Browns are down. Yeah, new York needed a win. It's like, hey, this is a spot that we would normally take.
Speaker 2:No, flies, I'll give you the biggest one, bo Nix.
Speaker 1:Yesterday Everybody in the world was on the Broncos the whole entire, where I have never seen more Broncos picks than it was. Yeah, I was on the easiest game. Everybody was on the Broncos. You couldn't do it. I couldn't do it because I don't know if Bo Nix can be a passenger on my flight yet now. He played yesterday, he played really well. But again there's just certain guys, and again Nix isn't there quite there for me yet. But there's just certain guys that I've just seen enough.
Speaker 2:I've seen enough the, what makes, what makes the sports betters and the and the the handicappers, truly special. And sometimes I feel like I'm in this space and sometimes you know you have downswings, you feel like you can't see the board at all. But what separates the guys is when everything is pointing one way. You either stay off or you could get yourself to go the other way. And there's it's. It's really just an experience years of watching ball and a sharp sense like my sharp sense was telling me just stay off this shit. You don't have to pick this game, pick another one. You don't have to, you don't have to pick this game.
Speaker 2:I I understand that everything is saying. You know you should take Tennessee here, but you could just go another route and potentially pick a team like the Minnesota Vikings who are at home for the second straight week and are enrolling. And you know, for as good as Coleridge is, they didn't look that good against a really good D of the Bears. No, they really didn't. And then they went and saw Brian Flores and Brian Flores was all over Coleridge and the boys. So, yeah, that's what separates the guys from the guys they stay off of the games, even though they potentially should be going that way, and then they pick the ones where they should be at, like the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1:So have you added him to your? Is he on your? Do you have a no-fly list to begin?
Speaker 2:with and is.
Speaker 1:Olevis on it. I will Because you used to love betting on Kirk Cousins too. I remember you were for a while Regular season's Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no doubt I try not to have a no-fly list just because I don't want to X anybody before I really start getting into it. But like, for example, Carolina was the side this week, you had to have heart to take that side. Like you have to have heart, that was the side right. And coming up next week, you know what I can 100% there's going to be people in line waiting to bet the Titans. So it's tough, man, I try not to create a no-fly list, but I'll be hard-pressed, I have to bet the Titans again.
Speaker 1:I'll just pass. I won't be one of them. I will not be one of them. I will watch. Yeah, so for me I do again. I do have the no-fly list. I have coaches on the no-fly list. Mike McCarthy is very close. He has to go through the scanner twice to get on my plane. I put it that way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He gets the pat down, he gets the private screening.
Speaker 1:So I got to look real close right, because I got burned on Dallas last week too. So it's just like you know what man I don't know, I guess for me, why put myself through certain guys if I don't have to Like for me? Why would I put myself through the agony of putting my money on Will Levis, knowing that I just don't know what's going to happen? And if it doesn't go my way, the biggest thing for me if it doesn't go my way, I know afterwards I'm going to beat myself up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, that's the biggest thing you know like I'm sure that's what you're feeling right now it's some strong Monday morning quarterback gambling stuff, right when it's just like man. I can't believe I took my hard-earned money and put it on Will Levis After seeing what I've seen for two weeks.
Speaker 2:After seeing what I've seen, it's unacceptable. After seeing what I've, seen it's unacceptable.
Speaker 1:So that's kind of that's how my no-fly list works. But I thought it was funny said you had real.
Speaker 2:I thought you just had pickup money, but you said real oh no, I had real cash greenbacks, I was like oh man, you see, I had the boys on there you had the ducats yeah, the ducats on tennessee.
Speaker 1:You could have given that to the salvation army. You could, I was, I was really close to having a big day titans.
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