EP 21 A Liver Runs Through It

This episode continues to explore Liver and sense perception.  Since Liver never stops, what can we do to support it. Is it possible to change how we approach and support liver to change how we perceive?  If we kept Liver points clear, would that point us in the direction of correct perception?  And what drives perception?

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SPEAKER_00 0:10

Welcome back to our series on liver and sense perception. Liver never stops. So what can we do to support it? Can we change our liver and change our mind? What drives perception? Let's rejoin Deborah and Sarah to find out more.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

Well, so let's talk about what happens when someone loses sight and there's an amplification of the other senses.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

Because it's not like the loss of that one sense then create I mean there's really interesting to see what happens to that blind person's brain. I've never thought about that MRI thing. I mean that'd be so easy to Google. Because I'm sure they're all lit up. I mean, I'm sure you know it's all there. So what maybe what you're saying is that if we balance that or strengthen or I'm just trying to think about how to support liver and all that process.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Yeah. So like you're talking about if I have I have one dominant sense, so I'm I'm trying to balance out the senses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

So for instance, you the I'm thinking about the deprivation tanks that we have here in Asheville and how helpful they are. You know, to turn off the senses. Yeah. And I would think that because liver never stops, that the deprivation never stop and liver never stops. So there's something there about never stopping, and that always the senses are always on, even when we're asleep. And even in deep coma, we're sensing things and liver's processing that. So this idea that liver never stops and we never stop perceiving. But the difficulty is we don't know what we're perceiving. So it's the meaning. So I see the meaning happening if we understand that perhaps liver would hold that and then manages all the other senses. So it's stable. It's I'm just trying to figure out why liver would be the senses manager.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

And it's also the manager of dreams.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

And oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

So it's even managing vision at night in the dream state.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Aaron Ross Powell But the really interesting thing is the formula I have, and I don't I I can't remember exactly, I'd have to look up where I sourced this. But the formula for balancing sight is it's just almost just this. I mean, there are acupoints here, but I've got bladder one, bright eyes, bladder two, bamboo gathering, triple warmer 23, silk bamboo, gallbladder one, which is right here, poop pupil bone hole, then stomach one tier container.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Aaron Powell So these are for the studio audience are she's pressing points around her eye socket. Aaron Powell Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

So bladder just almost following my eyebrows. So it's almost like I'm on uh on the bridge of my nose and working around my eye and hitting those. So these points around the eye are uh they are it's a liver treatment.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Aaron Ross Powell Well, you've got a point on a water meridian and a point on a fire meridian that are both called bamboo, which is wood.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Which is wood, exactly. Okay. And then bright eyes and then gallbladder. There's a gallbladder bone hole. And then stomach, tear container. So those are the five points. They're it and and they are they're visual. I mean, you know, uh they have their place with vision, you know, like stuffed diseases of the eyes and everything. But but when I look at that, it's a liver treatment. It treats liver. And so what it seems to do, it seems to relax liver with this treatment. So there's something about helping liver keep its points clear that helps it perceive correctly. And one of the things that's very interesting, when I do this on people, I test the direction. And what's really important in in and when I give points for the senses in particular, the direction is really is really meaningful. It almost looks to me like a re-estat. Like if the sensation is too intense, I'm getting too much information. I'm getting way too much information. You're gonna dial it down. We're gonna dial it down, and we're gonna go counterclockwise. Right. So if I were to do that, I would just start at the tear duck, you know, over by stomach, and I would go counterclockwise around that eyebrow and end with the bladder points by the nose bridge. If and here's where I'm not quite sure how to correct this, people do see things differently. The scales get lifted from the eyes when I do the yang. So sometimes if they I really know they're seeing something incorrectly, something that's not happening to them. I'm not saying that it's it is the real I don't I don't quite know how to say that. Can you help me say that more gracefully?

SPEAKER_03 5:19

My neighbors are spying on me, or you know.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Yeah, yeah. That sometimes you gotta widen the vision. But if the neighbors are spying on me, I will bring in the kidney sense. You hear? Exactly. Bring in the kidney sense and maybe dial that one down in those sets of points. Right. So it seems like the vision informs the other senses what to look for.

SPEAKER_03 5:49

So it is the activity of selectivity because we're taking in vast amounts of information through through our senses every moment of every day. Right. But we only become consciously aware of a tiny percentage of that. So who's the chooser?

SPEAKER_01 6:09

Right. So what I've done in trying to manage senses, so when somebody comes in, and of course it has so much to do with their element, you know. Somebody comes in and they're obsessively worried.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

They're both looking at me.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Obsessively worried, what they're seeing is polluting the sense of feel. So what they're seeing, if they believe their neighbor is spying on them, what they're seeing is polluting their sense of water. So somehow it feels like liver manages how to perceive correctly. And liver also governs, as you say, the smooth flow flow of qi. And qi in the body is actually kind of tough for the flow. So think about we have in here sitting here in Asheville, North Carolina, in our little recording studio in Swananoa with Jill, we have a river called the French Broad that is very, very unusual in the world. It's only one of five rivers that runs south to north. All rivers on the planet run north to south. For that river to change its course, unbelievably difficult, right? But we do that all the time. So we've got, I've got my heart meridian that goes from my armpit up to the heavens, and then it turns the corner on the tip of my baby finger and it runs down to the earth. That's a hard thing to do, and liver has to make that happen. Yeah. So liver is the one that changes your mind. So, liver, when you're perceiving something and you start to perceive it differently, like a very like the incident I had when the scales fell from my eyes. I suddenly moved in the different direction. I was perceiving things incorrectly that were not there the whole time. And it was my belief, my belief in the world was out to get me. So I likely had kidney and water in that moment. I don't know how I can do that without narking on myself or Michelle Ernest. I don't think Michelle would be upset at all by that story, but I'm reminded of our sweet, our sweet little wood Mandy that we had in year one.

SPEAKER_03 8:40

What was it that she said, I'm a hundred percent confident and thirty percent accurate?

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Yes. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah. That's exactly what I'm talking about. 100% confident, 30% accurate. Yeah. All the time. So so that's it. That's it. So that synthesizing. So so one of the things that liver is known for is liver is known for its sweetness. Liver is not I mean and sweetness really belongs to earth, kindness and generosity. Yeah, it's virtuous benevolence. It's birt virtuous benevolence. Trevor Burrus, Jr. Doing good. So if my liver is healthy, that should dominate my perception and inform my other senses, right? Right. So if I have a benevolent liver and that's going to be the dominant perceiver, and I look out my window and I see my neighbor looking at me, I might say, Oh my gosh, hi, I'm looking at you two. Yeah. We're connected, as opposed to drawing the drapes and going, Why are you looking at me? Why are you looking at me? So it's so creepy. So maybe this is it, honey, because liver is directional. Yeah. Point me in the direction. Point me in the direction of the correct perception. So when I look out that window, there's whole kinds of things that happen. So I see that neighbor looking back at me. I feel, I feel spleen, fear, water, judgment, lung, panic, fire. All the formulas for paranoia. Or I can look out that window and I can see trust. I can say, so glad they can see my yard. What if somebody was here and I didn't want them there? Yeah. Right? So I feel protected. I feel connected. I feel grateful. I feel loved. That I think the way you're going to perceive belongs to liver.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

Well, and that brings to mind the the quote that we put on the wall the very first time we talked together in Sanibel Island last week. And I wrote what wrote on our big first big post on the wall, my beloved quote from Anis Nin, we don't see things as they are, we see them as we are. Yes. And this is the this is the description of that.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

So how does liver do that? I mean, how so that's that's a healing that has to kind of happen in liver. And what's the damage of that? So so here's here's kind of the plea I'm making on the senses. And this and when I teach this class, I really plead with people because we have you know, that that big 30%, you know, it needs to be it needs to be in its best self because it is guiding every all the other senses because I think it's it's how we process the see the all the others. Right. So when she's upset, when liver's upset. Everybody's upset. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

And and let's also mention, too, that it's not just this perception is, yes, it relates to the sensory orifices of the eyes and the ears and the tongue and the nose, et cetera, but it's also the organs. So this inability to perceive clearly and and feel that kindness of liver and look out look out on a kind word world also has also affects the organs and how the organs function. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Well, damn it, it's tissues. I mean I mean, this is you know, this is why this particular political climate is landing so many people on my table. I mean, it's just it's no matter where you stand, there's some people that are very happy, but no matter where you stand, you're stressed. I mean, even the ones that are happy are are at this point, when this at this recording are poorer.

unknown 12:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

I mean, everybody's suffering.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

You probably would work liver first, maybe before you would start. So so in order to start to but then isn't that my judgment on their perception? So so my judgment on the perception is always is are their tissues getting damaged? If their tissues are getting damaged, they're perceiving incorrectly. So if you're perceiving correctly, your tissues will thrive. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Exactly. So are you congruent with assessment? That's always how I assess it. And I want to make sure that's really heard clearly that because it's not our perception of their perception that is the benchmark. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Right. Right. But I do know that if I have a cutter and she's using razor blades on her arms, I know that we have an agreed perception that that's not correct. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Yeah. Yeah. So so, but I do know there's a reason she's doing that. She's trying to feel something. Yeah. Right. So um but she's perceiving something incorrectly that she's destroying her own self. Right. So it's just going to be, is it serving them or not serving them, that their perception? And then I can't, I can't, I can't judge that perception because if if their tissues are happy with that perception, by all means, I'm going to support that perception. Well, it it well, it's back to that conversation we've had a million times that if somebody walks into my my office and says, I have personally, I don't think I would make a chemotherapy choice. I am not sure.

unknown 14:15

You know?

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:16

I've never been I've never been confined.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

I don't want to feel like I'm a better person because I wouldn't do that. But it's I don't think I don't think I could do that. But if somebody walks in and does that, man, I'm behind that. I am behind that and supporting that body. 100%. I don't care. You know.

unknown 14:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Right. They've made that choice and I love it. That's their perception, and they're they may do really well with it. I'm just trying to create peace in the world, is all I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

We want all those livers to be kind.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

I just want I just want everybody to have the same heart and the same mind. Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.: Why can't we just all get along? Yeah. So the So the perception. So if you're perceiving, so here's where the perception becomes a problem is I'm seeing this, and so therefore you must see the same thing or else. Trevor Burrus, Jr. The projection of the perception. Trevor Burrus The projection of the perception. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

Which is what we were just talking about. Which creates an unequal relationship right there.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Aaron Ross Powell So there So there's a this this idea of agreed-upon reality. And we don't know we're agreeing upon reality a lot of us, but we are. So this agreed-upon reality.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

But we don't agree on the dress color.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Trevor Burrus We don't agree on the dress color.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Trevor Burrus And there are some really, really important things we don't agree on, too.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

So how about this? Let's throw in the diversity dome. And so the perception usually usually peop what I'm what I'm perceiving when you get into trouble is the perception is this is this is the reality, and you're not living reality.

unknown 16:03

Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

From people who perceive me. And I don't think they're living in reality, right? So so there's this so we're only seeing things with a yin and yang eye. We're not seeing things with the third eye. We're not seeing the third thing, right?

SPEAKER_03 16:17

Trevor Burrus And and the and a good identification of that is if you are willing to defend it. If you go into defense over your reality, then something is missing.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Aaron Ross Powell Yeah, I think you can pretty much say that, yeah, if you're defending that, you're not third eye. You're just you're just in the you're just in your left and right eye. You don't have that third thing. You don't have that third concept of perception. So the true perceiver, you know, the third eye. Well, that's so interesting because the third eye. Okay, let me think about that for a second. I wish they could see you right now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:56

With your little triangle on your head.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

What is it, Brahma or what is it? That's something I have Brahma and Brahman. Yeah. I know I remember no names. Yeah, I think that's right. Anyway, so true perception is only third eye. So that's the true perceiver. So that's like saying, you know, triple warmers are defender, is not, it really is penetrating flow. Yeah. Right. So if we go even finer than the senses, even finer, I mean more subtle than the organs, what is driving the perception? And then you st you know, you start to step into these really bad B time travel movies when you start to talk like this, that so perceiving what reality?

SPEAKER_03 17:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

So the senses have to be always perceiving all the realities. Not just the yin and yang reality. And it seems like it seems like it's really strange. It seems like the yin and yang reality, we agree a lot on the yin and yang realities, like the stop sign and the stoplights. Those are yin and yang realities. But the collaborative concept of why we stop at stop signs, that belongs to third eye. So we see the stop signs, but why we stop is because there's other people on the planet. And we don't want to send them to the hospital or have them send us to the hospital. So when I work on senses and when and and I want everybody to perceive what they need to perceive. That's kind of where I'm at. And and in most cases, they can disagree with me as long as they don't hurt me. You know, that's okay. Right. You know? They can disagree with me. So there's there's some sovereignty there. So maybe when we talk about working on the senses, we've always got to we've always got to throw in who governs Panel? Heart. Heart governs Panel. Oh, well, there we go. Yeah. The true vision. Yeah. Duh. Well, that was a big roundabout. Yeah. I'm done.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Well, and heart and liver pass the conscious pass the vitality back and forth through the wheel, you know, through the day. Day and night, day and night, heart and liver, heart and liver, heart and liver and day and later.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Talk. Yes. Okay. Keep going. Okay, so that's it. I'm getting it. I'm getting it now. All right. So talk about gallbladder and the escort and liver and what happens to the spirit. So here we go.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

I got it. Anciently, the Chinese talked about how the spirit would live in the heart by day. So when the when the sun is out, and then it would migrate into the liver by night when it was dark outside. So the vitality was visible in the day by the light in the eyes. That meant that it was in the heart and the heart was doing well, and the person was aligned with their with their destiny in the liver by night was in the quality of the dream state and the quality of sleep. So the this kind of figurate motion between the heart and the liver. And you see this in fairy tales a lot, where somebody is eating the heart and liver. Usually I have a bird, interestingly. So all this cool stuff that comes from all these ancient traditions is still alive and well in fairy tales. That's another thing that I learned from Martin Prechtel. Thank you very much. And uh Albert Einstein says if you want smart children, read them fairy tales. If you want really smart children, read them more fairy tales. Because all of all of the wisdom is in there. So the escort between the heart and the liver is gallbladder, going back and forth, and back and forth, and back and forth, back and forth. Gallbladder, who is considered by the Chinese to be an extraordinary organ. So with the what is it, the brain and the uterus and the gallbladder, are those the three extraordinary organs?

unknown 21:04

I think.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

So this is one of this is one of gallbladder's.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

Sometimes they just call the brain the extra organ. Such disdain for the brain. The mud bowl.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Love that name.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

So what was I? So gallbladder is it is an extraordinary organ. Yeah. It stays pure.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Stays pure. And another thing that Martin Prechtel talks about is that there are some traditions where the fire soul lives in the gallbladder, and that is, and that that is how we travel out at night during during our dreams. Is that we the the fire soul that resides in the gallbladder goes out and does what it does and comes back before we wake up. And that it's on those days where we're awakened by an alarm clock or awakened by somebody waking us. Up before you know early or sometime when we weren't prepared naturally to wake up, that when we're groggy and kind of out of sorts for that day, it's because the fire soul didn't make it back to the gallbladder. So we're still out there someplace you know, we're not we're not we've not made that that journey back from the the the expanded state back into the the physical. I wish I'm gonna use that now.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

To call in sick to work? No, just my fire soul is not back in my gallbladder. I won't be in today. Won't be in today. No fire soul. Okay. So I think I think you answered my question. Thank you very much. Because it was really bothering me why the brain was devoting so much to liver and to sight. So the relationship between gallbladder, liver, and heart. So gallbladder, I often call gallbladder Lancelot. Yeah. He loved Arthur and he loved Guinevere. You know? So he had, you know, so he was split between liver and heart. You know, he was split between those. And so he went back and forth, and he was this pure soul, and his love was pure, even though the action was adulterous. It's a noble story in many ways. So in that process, I can see where that heart in that relationship, and that is a very special relationship, and I forgot that the soul spent 12 hours a day in heart and the other 12 hours a day, or, you know, roughly our sleep in liver. So they share the same conversation. There is no other organ system, no other two organs that are so intimate in that way than liver and heart. So probably what heart does is heart informs because it's awake during the day, right? That's when heart's awake. Right. So heart will inform, and it's a it's it's a daytime high noon energy, right? Right. So heart will inform from the high point. And then liver will take that information in into the night and and and and inform, and I'm I'm really thinking about the Z clef wise counsels.

SPEAKER_03 24:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

So the Z clef points that we study are the deepest points. They run in the deepest levels of our meridian system, the fourth level. And they are supposed to be pure. And when we get into trouble in those Z clefts, and we protect those Z clefts points until we don't, but they're supposed to stay pure to the deep level, and they also have a relationship with the exterior outside of the aura. So they also bring information back. So there's a piece of me that thinks that the wise counsel of all the Z clef points, those Z clef points are the deepest points on every meridian. A couple of meridians have several. Kidney has three, I think gallbladder has two, which makes sense. And those are also attributed to strange flows. And so those are the deepest points in our body. We want to keep those pure and clean. What the Z clef is, is people get in trouble when they aren't clean because then you can't hear the wisdom of the ancestors between one and three at night when that console gathers to purify the vision for the next day. So it makes sense to me that in this relationship between heart and liver, that heart would inform liver, and then the council that sits at the liver table at night, all the organs are informed of the deep message and the deep vision. They take the garbage, what is not going to serve the vision, hand that off to lung and large intestine, and then renew. So I can see where that the taste, the desire is embedded in the liver, the brain. It's embedded in that sense that the desire drives the liver's vision. So in its capacity, so what's driving what's driving the desire? Well, I've heard from many different in many different ways that every time you every time you have a desire, that is your source, whatever that is, I call Godfather. That is Godfather summoning me to do something. And it's summoned through desires. Because we know it's much easier to get me to do something if I want to than when I don't want to. That's right. So what do we desire? So I'm wondering if desire informs liver, and then of course, liver, it takes 30% of our brain to make that happen.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Well, and if we work it the other way, we our our desires can be obscured when those qi cleft points become stagnant. They start to collect blood and qi, they're not clear, they're not clean, which which reflexes back to the organs. And it's a bit like beer goggles or uh, you know, just ha putting on another pair of glasses that change the nature of reality. So you're now perceiving through a polluted organ and a confused wise one.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

And it confuses, yeah. And a confused wise one. So I I have a feeling that the liver really that liver is respon because it's a detoxer, that liver is responsible for keeping heart's true vision pure throughout our life. And I have a feeling that's why nature gives him the biggest part of our brain. To keep It's a big job. To keep the so heart has the vision and liver has to find everything and it has to do it with integrity, has to do it in wholeness, and has to manage all the other organs' sensations in order to get everybody in the car and go forward.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

Well, liver itself is not free from the desire. I mean, liver, liver's activity has to be congruent with the desire.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Trevor Burrus, Jr. So liver will have its own liver. Like it's almost like he's he's a little bit like um he's got a double job. Like it's Clark Kenton Superman? He's Clark Kenton Superman. He's Clark Kenton Superman. Yeah, it's a little bit like he's got a day and night there.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

Never in the room at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Yeah. So so he yeah, a little bit like that. A little bit like that. So what would you do for formulas for that? I mean, I mean, as you think about it, it it you know, to to to keep because I do think that the confusion, the and then of course, we always have to come back to the disease, all this confusion starts to damage tissues. Right. And so we keep treating and we keep treating tissues, and I really want to treat the driver of the tissue damage, right? Right. So I'm not blaming liver, I'm not saying liver is the driver of the tissue damage, I'm not even saying heart is the driver, but who's driving the desire? So who drives the senses?

SPEAKER_03 29:34

You're calling me back from another thought entirely.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Oh no, what is it? Jill can edit it.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

Um Or maybe it'll be good. I I just gotta I mean, really, I just there's a big twist that happened in my head right there. You know, in in our defense.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

In our defense.

SPEAKER_03 29:55

In our defense. We often get a change in perception when we do work on the organs.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Right. We get a he we can get a huge change in perception from a black pearl. Yes. Where we're holding the neurovasculars, we're activating the oxygen, the lymph, the nerve in each one of those neurovascular bundles, we're setting that in motion, we're we're bringing things into forebrain. We we I mean we do have these moments of clarity.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

So from the work when we go to back brain, so when we are in the adrenal complex, when we're in the back brain and not in the forebrain, meaning when we're in the back brain, we're in the excitable, reactionary, Neanderthal, triple warmer brain, we call it.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

And we know that particular, when that particular part of the brain is that that triggers all the stress hormones. So it feels bad to be there.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

Not only that, but it actually changes our physical field of vision.

unknown 30:59

Right.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

Yeah, it narrows our vision from this wide peripheral, peripheral, you know, whatever it is, 180 degrees or more. Right. And it brings it down to a very narrow band of focus. Right. So if we're constantly in that back brain, that's all we're seeing. We're not seeing any of this other stuff on the resource side. So people could be trying to help us and we can't see it. People could be bringing us gifts and we don't see it. We could be given opportunities and we don't see it. So that's a huge shift to uh to vision.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

So that's liver and back brain. So so what we just need to say is senses in back brain and senses in forebrain.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

So I'm trying to get away from the word correct. So Right. So if I'm in back brain and I am being chased by a saber-toothed tiger, I've perceived correctly, right? Yes. And you're taking appropriate action. Trevor Burrus, Jr. And I've made the right choice, and my physiology is supporting that. So that's not a lie, that's not an illusion. I'm using my senses to stay alive, to do all that. So that's unusual, right? There's very few saber-toothed tigers. There's very few. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:22

So unlike other mammals who re-regulate their nervous systems through shaking, we continue to expect the saber-toothed tiger to jump out from every bush and we keep ourselves there instead of re-regulating back to forever.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

So it's misperception that there's only bears and not rabbits. So I say you hear the twig snap in the woods, you immediately go to bear, 99.99999% of the time, it's a rabbit. Yeah. That that right there stops damaging your tissues, right? Who's dinner? Are you dinner for the bear? Or is the rabbit possibly dinner for me? You so you say my conundrum. My foreign brain means their back brain. Exactly. So but that is the more correct perception according to the reality, is I am 66 years old and have not been eaten by a bear yet.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Nor are you likely to.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

No. So but I've been scared of bears all my life. So I've used precious resources. Truly. I mean, uh bears, I mean, it's a metaphor, but I, you know, I'm a goddamn rabbit. We know this. You know? I texted her during the hurricane. I all the bunnies are in the closet right now. All of them. All of them in the closet. I'm scared of the colour. Yep. Yes. A good place for them. So that it but that is an incorrect perception. And so we're constantly trying, at least in this community, we talk about how we're trying to re-educate Triple Warmer. And we do that by just saying, shut up, shut up, shut up. We just keep sedating, sedating, sedating. Shut up, shut up. Shut up. That ain't what's happening. Shut up. But he's still perceiving that. So all the keys are still trying to do the job that's right in front of him. Right. We keep telling him, stop that. Again, who is driving this? Yeah. Who's driving your car, Deborah? Jesus. I hope nobody right now. It's parked in the garage in Oregon.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

Jason, Jesus, take the wheel. Jesus take the wheel. Jesus will drive your semi if you let him. Mama paper say Dayton, not heaven. That's an old, that's an old routine from Duck Breath Duck's Breath Mystery Theater.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

You probably never thought of it.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

As we continue with this topic, the question is raised Does Perception make reality? Next time on Put a Quarter in It, presented by Energy Medicine University and produced by Hip Chicks Create.