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EP 32_Infinite vs Artificial
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Hi, my name is Jill Stevens and welcome to Put a Quarter in It. Today we are starting a new topic: infinite intelligence versus artificial intelligence. What gives us our infinite intelligence? Our senses? How do we keep ourselves clear of nest clutter? What is nest clutter? Let's find out together as we start the first of a three-part series.
SPEAKER_02Alright, ready, babies? All right, hey, hey, hey. This is Sarah Allen coming to you from Asheville, North Carolina, and I'm sitting here with my friend Jill Stevens and my friend Deborah Hurt. And they are not in Asheville. Where are you guys?
SPEAKER_01Not this time. I'm in Bend, Oregon. Bend, Oregon. Bend, Oregon.
SPEAKER_00And normally I'm in Swantanoa, but today I'm in St. Petersburg, Florida.
SPEAKER_02So the three of us are all over the planet today. We're not gathered together. But that does not stop us from talking.
SPEAKER_01What can stop us from talking? Coma.
SPEAKER_02Duct tape.
SPEAKER_01I think I can't find a way with my hand. Yeah. Yeah. I think coma is about it. Coma's about it. Yes. And and and even that might not work.
SPEAKER_00We'd all have to be in coma.
SPEAKER_02We'd all have to be in coma. But then probably we could talk to each other if we're all in coma.
SPEAKER_01That's true.
SPEAKER_02I've been listening a lot to the telepathy tapes. Maybe that's the only way we, yeah, maybe we could do it that way.
SPEAKER_01Maybe. It'd be hard to record. That would take talent. So far. So far. So who knows what will be possible. Yes, yes. The possibilities, the possibility. If it exists in the world, we can create a technology for it. Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_02You know, the um, I want to talk. I I want to hear your thoughts on. I've been thinking a lot about all well, this AI crap, this AI shit, right? Everybody's all afraid of it. I got a really interesting factoid. I heard about AI, and they're all talking about how all these big companies are investing in AI right now, and it's the hottest thing, it's what's driving the market. That and they talk about an AI bubble. You know, is AI really up to the hype? And there was a really interesting angle. I was reading the Wall Street Journal, and they were interviewing somebody about this AI bubble. And this is probably in October of this of 2025. And they said that they did not think that AI was going to live up to its current hype, that it was probably going to be a pretty massive disappointment to a lot of people. But what's driving the market is fear. And here's what they said. When they actually look at the information that's out there, that AI is simply what AI is, is simply this incredible Google. It's just a thing, it's just a big Google on steroids. So it's it's it's not anything new and different. So it doesn't generate anything creative, it only generates what's happened in the past. And what is driving this idea, so whenever you see, I know that there was a big thing, I think it was in October, what drove this interview was there was a video of robots turning on humans in some factory in Taiwan. And I saw it, and all the comedians had it, you know, and CNN had it, where the the well, all it was probably is there was a shortened one, the robots, and he just went crazy and he just started hitting people, you know. So so they're saying they're attacking. So it was the dumbest thing I ever saw. It was just, it was just a Roomba that had a bad charge and was just running in the walls and chasing the dog, you know. So what happened after this thing, when this robot, they had this video of this robot attacking these humans in this factory, AI investments went insane. It was just like people were just writing checks and writing checks and writing checks and hedge funds, they weren't asking any questions. Because every time it said that AI is going to control and kill humans, the stocks go up. It was the most fascinating thing. So when this, so everybody's saying, don't do AI, it's too dangerous. And the second there's any danger, everybody just starts shoving money at AI companies, right? So they're using fear to create this and to promote this. And I'm sitting here watching, and I love, I love, I saw Abraham, you know, Hicks, Esther and Abraham. For those of you that are Abraham heads, I'm pretty much an Abraham head. And I saw Esther, she was in Asheville in June, and AI was uh the topic of several people in the hot seat. For those of you that don't know what she does, she brings somebody from the audience up and they ask questions and then she berates them and sends them humbly, humbly back to their seats. If you've ever seen, if you've ever seen Esther do this, you know. So people can't wait to do this. I know I know. You get these humans up there with their dumb questions for God, and you know, and then she answers them and beats them up a little bit, and they say thank you, and they go back and sit down. So there's somebody up in the hot seat asking about AI, and they're worried. And she says, she does say this, Abraham or Abraham says that AI is just Google on steroids, and she says, It think about it, it's artificial intelligence. She says, You are infinite intelligence. She says, So you you have the superior by way, whatever weigh is to Abraham, wei lot. So it really started me. It's been it's it's been kind of a theme in the back of my head, but when I started to study the senses, you know, the ancient Chinese senses, Deborah, you know, we've we were teaching that class, you know, Jill's recorded it. You guys all know this shit to ad nauseum about the goddesses of Mount Kulin, the five five goddesses. And so the Mount Kulin goddesses are the ancient, the most ancient of the healing sources. They believe that literally Taoism rose out of the shamanikas. Is that what you call them, honey? Shamanikas? Shamancas. Shamankas.
SPEAKER_01That's uh the Russian word for lady shaman. Lady shaman. The Chinese word is Wu. Wu. So the late, I like lady shaman.
SPEAKER_02I think lady shaman. Sounds like something Wu-Paul would do. Like he would dress as a lady shaman or something.
SPEAKER_01Lady, oh, absolutely. He would look fabulous.
SPEAKER_02He would look fabulous. And he'd be very, very tall. He'd have the big heels. So, anyway, the you know, so when you study the most ancient of Chinese medicine, you run into you run into these five goddesses that govern the senses. They govern the see, touch, taste, hear, and smell. So these goddesses, this information, this these protocols are how anciently they would take information from nature by observing through the senses, pull it out, and create magic with that. So, and in when we're talking about magic, you know, I'm talking about healing, I'm talking about, you know, somebody's crazy and then they're not, somebody's blind and then they're not, somebody's deaf and then they're not. You know, there are really dramatic changes that happen when you study these senses. So the five goddesses drove Taoism. So they are pre-even Tao. So the most ancient of ways of gathering information have always been through the five senses, and there is deep, deep magic and energy around the senses gatherer. So AI has does not have five senses.
SPEAKER_01And you mentioned earlier, doesn't no, it doesn't have any senses, and it can only it can only repeat the the past, and that's backbrain. So it's not it's not surprising that it's being propelled by fear because that's where backbrain so think about it. That's what happens in back brain.
SPEAKER_02This whole idea of artificial intelligence going to take over the world is based on fear, comes from backbrain, and it's only information it has is things that have already happened. That's all it has. It has access to nothing coming yet. I'm not saying it doesn't have access yet. I I want to make sure that I that phrase did not get up as I misunderstood. It will never have access because it does not have any senses, it can only repeat what the five senses, the five human senses, have already experienced. So nothing that AI has coming is new, not a single motherfucking thing. You're saying it can't have a sixth sense, right? That inner knowing. It cannot have a sixth sense. And by the way, there is senses. It doesn't have any sense. Yeah, and and it's you we cannot we cannot escape that pun. We cannot accept that there is no literally one word sense. There's no sense. They're only it's only recording, and it's only recording history, and it's only recording scary shit for the most part, you know. So because it's coming from back brains. So it's it's it's recording our worst fears and our worst selves, and then that's driving the money to invest in it. What the fuck? So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
SPEAKER_01So what are we used to be that sex cells, but nobody's having sex anymore, so now it's fear cells.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so incels, you know, incels. All right, so believe it or not, thinking about AI, artificial intelligence, I I, infinite intelligence. We humans, we humans, we humans have access to infinite intelligence. So But we have to choose it. We have to we have to we have to find setting for it. I think there's a drop-down tab. And there actually is starting at ying tang. Yes, there's a drop-down tag.
SPEAKER_01Nobody can see that you're pointing between your eyebrows except us.
SPEAKER_02Don't rub the infinite intelligence statement in then. Um so we do, we do, we actually do have to turn it on. We we have points, and they're called. Let me let me actually find the language for it in the class. So I'm not giving out complete misinformation. So there is a thing in the in the energy anatomy, your nine energy physiology called the Chong Mai Tower. And Chong Mai for the Eden Huds, you guys, we all know that as the penetrating flow. That's the Chinese name for penetrating flow. And the Chong Mai Tower is can it is connected between the hips and the third eye. So it goes up the front of the torso from the pubic bone, travels like a tube, and holding energy, and it travels from the perineum, which is called Po, it's a Po point, it's central one. Travels there, it travels up the center of the body, it follows a lot of the kidney points, and it follows a lot of the stomach points that go up the front of the body, and it goes all the way up to the third eye. So, in this tower of energy, there's what they call the Chinese, the most ancient of all the Chinese uh protocols, are what they call nests, and they are spaces in the subtle energy anatomy where spirits reside. And we have five spirits that were given at conception, and the five spirits form us. So the five spirits are see, touch, taste, hear, and smell. And you know those as senses. The Chinese call them spirits, essences, sources, wells, places where you could go. And the idea was in these nests, in these points, in these positions, that space needed to be kept sacredly empty for no thing. Not nothing, no thing. So there's no thing in there, but it's full. So when they describe these nests, when they describe these positions, when they describe these places where the senses reside in the physiology, in in the topography of the body, when they're implanted, they're implanted at accupoints. So the idea is that these things stay empty so the spirit can reside there and guide the sight and guide the ears and guide the mouth and guide the smell and guide the what do I forget? Touch, touch, and guide the touch. So it's not so much even as a guide, as much as they actually kind of open the curtains on what's truly there in a subtle energy reality. So these five nests, these five spirits that are attached to our senses, when they have their nests, when they're sitting in their nest, and the nests are clutter-free. That's the trick as a human to keep your nest clutter-free. What happens is you perceive correctly. You perceive what you're supposed to see, you perceive what the creator is wants you to see, you see, you see your way out of a problem, you see your way through a disease, you see your way through a bad relationship. You can all your senses are in a space of clarity. So when we are in that space, when we have all five of those nests empty and only spirit is sitting there, those five energies work together and synchronize together and create one unit of perception. That I believe is what most people will call the sixth sense. So it is unbelievably accurate when they all five converge and then they create another thing, and that is the sixth sense. So see, touch, taste, hear, and smell, believe it or not, is all we need to have infinite intelligence and perceive correctly. Our problem is we have so much shit in our nests that when the spirit gets in there, it cannot see. It's like me sitting down to my desk and having 75 books, 47 papers, nothing organized, my checkbooks there, my and then I have to pay a bill. So I have to go through all this mishigosh. So that's what we're asking ourselves to do. And then we kick ourselves in the ass because we didn't we didn't see that coming. We we should have known that. We should have what what we have because our nests are so cluttered. So this concept of staying clear so that our intelligence can perceive correctly. So my line is when I studied the when I sh studied the lady shamans, I understood that if I could get my nests clutter-free and welcome them into that space, I will start to perceive correctly. And then what happens is my physiology and my behavior and my emotional world begin to change because I'm seeing things correctly. So the old adage when you walk into a semi-dark room and you see a rope on the floor, and you just insist it's a snake, you flip the light on, and you see it's a rope, that's what happens. So this idea of being able to perceive correctly is within our capacity. We were given this. We are hardware. The oldest healing system on the planet gave us this, and every healing system is built upon the five senses to know. So when I when something comes at me with AI, if I have really worked these points, if I have really honored my nests, I am not going to be fooled. I'm gonna know, and it's called knowing. The first people, indigenous people, talk about a knowing. I have so many funny stories about knowing, and I think most of them come from poor David Pete. Direct no, we've talked about it before on a podcast, but remember when he went to hunt elk. How did you not know? So I'm gonna repeat it just because I know we've already done it on a camp, but let me just let's just repeat the Pete story. Repeat and repeat. So he's what is he? Okay, so he's it's called the book is called Blackfoot Physics. Incredible book. I highly recommend it. He's a physicist, but he's also indigenous. His his family is indigenous. No, you keep saying no, he's not. You can tell it. He's from Britain.
SPEAKER_01Britain, that's right. And he was invited by by First Nations people to Canada to have a conversation about indigenous physics and modern physics. So he's there with he's there at the invitation of First Nations people.
SPEAKER_02And so he's there, he's there a month. He he buys a ticket from London. And so where was he? He was somewhere way up in uh Liverpool. He was in Liverpool, but when he went to when he went to the Blackfoot, was he in Canada? He was in Northern Sunfoot somewhere. Yeah, someplace in Northern Canada. So he goes over there and he's bought a 30-day ticket to go over there and talk. And part of this thing about talking to the indigenous people about indigenous physics is he's honored to be invited on their elk hunt for the winter. So they're gonna, as a people, they're gonna go get their winter elks. So he's there, and he keeps waking up in the morning saying, When are we gonna go get the elk? When's the elk? And they they go when it happens. And he's like, Well, what you know, like what day, you know, like what what time, you know, you know, what do they say to him? I don't remember it. It was just the weirdest thing.
SPEAKER_01They just kind of ignore him, or like, like it's like the question didn't make sense to them. It was weird. It was like why are you asking this?
SPEAKER_02Exactly. You're saying like when it's time, it's time. Exactly. Like, why is water wet? You know, like it was just like so silly to them. So he starts to get nervous because time, as we know in physics, true physics, there is no time, it travels in circles. This is why we have karma and boomerang lives and past lives come back and haunt us, all that kind of stuff. So time travels in spiral. So time's very different in physics, for especially for the first people. So his ticket is coming due, you know. So he's bought this really good price ticket and he's realizing he might not get to go on the elk hunt because his ticket's gonna expire. So he starts to get bitchy about it. And um, so it's about three in the morning and he hears lots and lots of commotion outside his cabin and he looks out, and everybody's gathering, and they're leaving on, you know, and they're they're leaving town and they're gone. They're leaving, and he kind of walks out, and there's a few stragglers like, What's going on? He says, 'Well, well, it's elk hunt.' He says, 'Well, why didn't anybody tell me?' He said, everybody knew. So they just knew at one in the morning, they all gathered. There was no email, there was no text, there was no phone calls. They just all knew that this was the time that the elks would be available, that maybe they're coming down the trail somehow, some way. They have that aware, they have cleanness, and they knew that the timing was perfect. He didn't, but they didn't tell him because nobody tells anybody. They just all know that I eye. Those are cleanness. They knew. So here he is standing there going, why did anybody tell me? So when we talk about Auric field, and we talk about the electron clouds that we live in and all this stuff. This is there is we are already Wi-Fi. It's the AI as we know it is built because it exists in us already. It's called karma and past life in Akashic Records. That's all AI is. That's it. Okay.
SPEAKER_01That ran exhausted me. So Martin Pactel talks about the fact that if you if you don't have an empty throne, there's no place for the holy to sit. So we're talking about these five thrones. And if that if the throne is full of crap, for one thing, you won't be in present time if the throne is full of crap. You won't be able to see the moment as it's happening. And this is this is the nature of um uh you know holding grudges, hanging on to things, hanging on to the past. And it's also the the nature of worry, rushing ahead and finding in in some fictional possibility the worst outcome, dragging it back to the body, shoving it down to the body, and screaming, this is happening now, and the body has to waste its resources on generating the chemistry that goes with that false reality.
SPEAKER_02And here's the thing: it's not happening. So what you do is happening. Exactly. So when you pull that from the future, like worry does, and they talk about how worry w ruins your moment, it doesn't ruin the future, it ruins now. So when you go and pull that from the future, it hasn't even happened yet. So so so you're you're you're literally making electron collapse happen in something you don't want to happen, thinking you're preventing it. And so the sense of knowing, you know, so you're reaching out, you're grabbing that that particular remedy. Or uh not remedy, uh, I wanted to say possible.
SPEAKER_01It's a negative possibility. Negative possibility. Now the word the word worry actually comes from, I think it's either Middle English or Old English word warrior, which means to rub to pieces. So you actually rub your present time to pieces over nothing. I do that a lot. I'm very upset. I mean, that's the earth thing.
SPEAKER_02I'm very good at that. I think I can prevent it. And so what I do when I do that, when I think forward like that, and trying in trying to make that happen. So help me help me understand, but you know, the the whole concept, we do we do have forward-moving sense, and that's that's vision. We definitely have forward-moving. Yeah, planning. Planning, it's and it's called the hoon, and it's liver. So liver governs the spirit, the sense of sight, and that spirit is called hoon. H-U-N.
SPEAKER_01And we have we have we have vision that looks at the details right in front of us, and we also have vision that scans the horizon at a distance. So there's a lot of mobility in vision that moves from where we are to where we're going and back and forth.
SPEAKER_02So, how do we maintain vision in the present moment? Because uh, you know, vision, like when we teach the sensory types in Eden Energy Medicine, we talk about how the visual sees ahead, sees into the future. They're usually leaders because they're seeing, you know, they are the the the big geese at the at the bee breaking breaking the wind, you know, for the forever, you know, so they're the tip of the arrow. How can that person stay in present moment?
SPEAKER_01Clean nests. Because if you if if the nest isn't satisfying. Well, if the if the throne of the hoon is empty, then then the holy, then the goddess can occupy that space and invest vision with that infinite intelligence. When it's when it's full of trash, we are we're gonna tend to interpret what we're seeing in terms of our past, not in terms of our possibility.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00So as a lay person, you would say, how the hell do we do this? I mean, how do I keep my nest clean? I know I recorded the class, but let's say someone who's not studying the Sophia's, so let's say they're not studying it, they're just listening to this podcast.
SPEAKER_02How? Well, there is the Sweetie's Swedish death cleaning book, which I highly recommend. But that's not how we clean our nuts.
SPEAKER_01But we're talking about Chinese death cleaning.
SPEAKER_02Chinese death cleaning. But the Swedish death cleaning, I mean, there is it's really interesting when you when you read about these goddesses, how much they they talk about a natural order that's never planned. And the and that really in that order, uh, since you've asked Jill, that order comes from nature. So when you so you when you're seeing, so your whon, your vision. So, and by the way, your brain weighs three pounds in your body, and 30% of that three pounds of your brain is dedicated to vision. 30%.
SPEAKER_01A box of butter's worth.
unknownYes, yes.
SPEAKER_00We did do a podcast on these, and you know, liver being the great preceptor. So, yes.
SPEAKER_02So, liver's a vision, so it has the most part of your brain. So, we have a tendency to use C in a lot of ways that that we don't understand C, you know, like it's it's not this physical C. But I have a tendency to understand sight as forward thinking. Another way to think of sight as forward thinking. So when you're talking you're so you're talking about forward thinking based on where you are now.
SPEAKER_00I just want to know how I can keep the nest clean. How do you fix it? Well, we have points. Next time, points. Thanks for listening to Put a Quarter in It, presented by Energy Medicine University and produced by Hip Chicks Create.