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Put A Quarter In It Podcast
EP 39_Avoid Wandering Alone
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Welcome to a new topic. Today we start discussing the light subject of Backbrain Culture and how to survive it. How do we participate in this world and still stay in our forebrain? We also touch on some of our favorite ideas, potential, original nature, and the very important Third Thing!
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Welcome to a new topic on Put a Quarter in It. Today we start discussing the very light subject of backbrain culture and how to survive it. How do we participate in this world and still stay in our forebrain? We also touch on some of our favorite ideas, potential, original nature, and the very important third thing. Let's begin. Okay, so what are you going to thrill thrill us with today?
SPEAKER_01Well, we're not terribly thrilled today. We're No, it may be more of a rant or a diatroph. Not that that's not what all these podcasts are. Soapbox sermon, what shall we call them?
SPEAKER_03Oh my God, the culture, the society. I mean, even the micro and the macros. I mean, if it's just it's everywhere, it's everywhere, it's everywhere, it's everywhere, it's everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just reading this. We're trying to figure out exactly where this came from. Once in a while, I get to do these quotes and then I forget. But we're thinking we think this is the Qing. But I have a quote sitting in front of me that feels apropos today. Noblehearted keeping still. Cultivating inner peace and detachment even among chaos or pressure. It is essential not to be swayed by external influences, but to remain grounded in the present moment and accept things as they are. Fuck you. This does not this does not mean keeping inactive, but taking action from a place of inner still and balance. Good luck, fucking luck with that. By serving the innocent and the good, we stay in step with the sage and avoid wandering alone. Now, that bit I like. Yeah. That little last bit about don't let me wander alone.
SPEAKER_01But let's not I have read that last bit again because I think that's a good place for us to start. We'll start at the end and go backwards.
SPEAKER_03Like do do what I can do.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, I'm gonna include that whole recording of the the the quote with the added flair. The the added flairs.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so the last bits, which I don't feel like vomiting on, um by serving the innocent and the good, we stay in step with the sage and avoid wandering alone. I think that's how I feel. I feel so wandering alone, and I am looking not to wander alone.
SPEAKER_01What what what stands out for me in that quote, especially in in stark contrast to what's happening in the culture of the United States right now, is it's describing good wood. Oh, yeah, that's true. You hear the knight of the round table in here, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Noblehearted steep keeping it. So yeah, that's the night. That's the wood.
SPEAKER_01Protection of the vulnerable, of the innocent. So it it's the virtue of benevolence.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. What's that virtue point again? I only wrote that class, but I I'm so backbrained right now, I can't remember anything helpful.
SPEAKER_00Are we talking on the heart?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. So it's be liver three and heart, right?
SPEAKER_00Stomach 18.
SPEAKER_03Oh, stomach 18.
SPEAKER_00Well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01This is so what's Oh, you're look, you're you're looking at the valve points. So adding virtue to the valves? Yeah, adding virtue to the valves.
SPEAKER_00So maybe Mike's So you have me, liver three, lung seven?
SPEAKER_03Lung seven. And we were we were trying to, I think, I can't tell if it's my red blood or my blue blood that's really upset. It's gotta be the red blood, right?
SPEAKER_01Well, no, uh read the beginning of the quote. I think it's the blue blood. Okay. It's the deoxygenation. It's like the oxygen's been pulled out by the culture and used poorly.
SPEAKER_03Noble heart at keeping still, cultivating inner peace and detachment, even among chaos or pressure. It just sounds so hollow. It's just so far away. But okay, under pressure. It's essential not to be swayed by external influences, but to remain grounded in the present moment and accept things as they are. Okay, I you know, I get that. So that inner thing, the Chong Mai Tower, staying in my clearing my goddess nests, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to listen to somebody else's podcast today.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But bringing the oxygenated blood with its renewed sense of meaning.
SPEAKER_03So the oxygenated ones are stomach 18 and cake 2024.
SPEAKER_0123 on the left. On the right. On the right.
SPEAKER_00On the right.
SPEAKER_01And then the aortic valve and the metral valve.
SPEAKER_03So I'm having trouble getting oxygen, right? Because I feel oppressed. I feel the life's been sucked out of me. And honey, we did no meaning. I mean, we've not listened, we've been teaching, we've not listened to news in five days. And it's just still creeps in. Yeah. It's just no escaping it.
SPEAKER_01And so, you know, the cultural field, I mean you can easily plug into the cultural field by reading the the news, but you can't get out of here.
SPEAKER_03Here's the problem. So you've got to tell the story about Ursk in the car seat. Because that's what I feel like.
SPEAKER_01Oh, oh, okay. I'm being put in the car seat. My sweet daughter, Ursula, whom some of you have heard me mention before, she used to hate riding in the car when she was little, like really little, like a toddler. And this was really perplexing to me because her brother loved the car. He would go in the car and promptly fall asleep. Ursula never slept. Never slept as a baby. She didn't sleep through the night until she was four years old. And I woke up because I was afraid she was she was dead. Because she didn't wake up. So so she was she was really different in a lot of ways. And so I got to learn more stuff. And so she was able to teach me really clearly the difference between free will and predetermination. And how she did that was by hating riding in the car. So we were living in Ashland at the time and kind of out to the south side of Ashland. So it was maybe an eight to 10 minute drive to the co-op, right, where everybody shops. And this was a frequent part of our lives, so it wasn't like I could avoid going to the co-op. So I would put her in her car seat and she would scream all the way to the co-op. So for eight minutes or 10 minutes, I was listening to screaming. Until I finally had a thought in my super young mom brain, what if I gave this child a choice? So I would carry her down to the car and I would set her on the driveway and open the back seat of the open the door to the back seat. And I would say to her, honey, do you want to climb into your car seat, or would you like me to put you in your car seat? And she would make a choice, and we would do whatever she chose. Either she'd climb into the car and I'd just buckle her in, or I would load her into her car seat and buckle her in. And then we would drive to the co-op and there was no screaming. So so all of this hinged on choice. Now, where the free will and predetermination comes in is you can choose how you get in the car seat, but by God, you are going to the co-op. Your destination is assured, but you've got lots and lots of choices on how to get there.
SPEAKER_03It reminds me a little bit when I used to teach in the financial world LET, leadership effectiveness training, there was a thing called principle of participation. And good leaders really figured out how to get their direct reports to come up with how they will do this. And then the boss could step out of the way because they had ownership and agency of the idea. So it there was a great art. My issue is I don't know how to participate. Yeah. Well So my choices, I know I'm going to the co-op, right? I'm in this country with everybody else. I'm on the same plane with everybody else.
SPEAKER_01And even if you go live in another country, you will still be able to do it. There's no escaping. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_03We have managed, we have managed to pollute the whole planet.
unknownTrevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_03We have. So it's yeah, it's a space. I just I don't know exactly. I need to participate, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to participate and stay in forebrain.
SPEAKER_01Trevor Burrus And I think that is really the crux of the problem because those organizing the culture are focused on the back brain.
SPEAKER_03In the back brain and separate, even in the resistance, there is that well, resistance, I mean the word right there. So we're constantly teaching folks not to create resistance in their tissues because that's inflammation.
SPEAKER_00So then we have these leaders in that back brain, and now they're limpic looping, limbic looping with us or trying to get us to be in that.
SPEAKER_03So that limbic loop, it's a really it's a really it's it's it's a mass limbic loop.
SPEAKER_01And um now there are big winners. And the big winners are all those people selling us what they convince us while we're in our back brain is gonna make us feel better. They're winning like crazy.
SPEAKER_03Well, I don't I don't I don't call that winning, but call it exploitation.
SPEAKER_01But exactly.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, so all right.
SPEAKER_01Okay. But they separate us from from our sense of meaning.
SPEAKER_03But here's here's where I get hooked. So by serving the innocent and the good, the end of this quote. Yeah. And it's in and I can feel a good resonance here. And here's where I think I'm going with it. By serving the innocent and the good, we stay in step with the sage and avoid wandering alone. By serving the innocent. Now, here is the thing that the Ching probably in the next paragraph is going to kick my ass with and say, We're all innocent.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I need to serve them. That's my redemption. That's my that's noble hearted keeping still. My ability to serve the innocents, even in those folks. Well, I have to serve their innocence. Now, how do I do that?
SPEAKER_01Well, we go back to fire. Remember the class that you wrote on ethics, where in the position.
SPEAKER_03I hate it when you use my own material against me.
SPEAKER_01What are best friends for? That's right. Where in in fire, our skillful means is to presume innocence. Right.
SPEAKER_03And that's the lungs of fire, and that's propriety. Well, it's really sorry, it's probably bad on your mic, Joe. I just spit on your mic.
SPEAKER_00You've got the screen there. It's really just your mic. No one else is using it. All right.
SPEAKER_01Yet. So do you allow them day or deny them day? No, I allow them day. And when we when we're talking about day, we're talking about D-E. Yeah. D-E-Y. We allow them the innocence. Innocence. And the fact that there's that the sage could also be present.
SPEAKER_03Aaron Ross Powell You know, when I read a really interesting perspective from a physics standpoint about how we're all created equal, and I think it came out of Floying with the Universal Laws, that book by Maro Margot Kitcher. Yeah. And let's see if I can get it right. She there's a law in there that talks about physics, the law of physics, in from a metaphysical standpoint. And it literally discusses how we're all made of the same four things. You know, everything's made of the same four things. And they don't use the word innocent, they they they imply an amorality to it. Which is nature. Nature is amoral. Innocence is potential in the Qing. So it's innocence is something, the place where nothing has you know, Lonnie talks about that, that place where nothing ever has gone wrong. Yeah. And the part in us that's never been touched by trauma. Exactly. And so that exists. I think that's the innocence in everybody, and I think that's the the the nucleus, the electron, the proton, and neutron. So those same four basic building blocks, I think that's where the innocence is from a physics standpoint. So they're innocence, they're innocent in their atoms. They're innocent in their atoms. So I think when when and and they were talking in in this particular chapter or whatever it was, they were talking about the original constitution and the American Constitution and talking about all men are created equal, and they were saying what they were saying is the four atoms. That that's that's the const that's it.
SPEAKER_01And when you do that, that equality It's like you're carrying it back to the common ancestor. Right.
SPEAKER_03So can we do do you have any comfort talking about this, um what we talked about about the Pope, the French Pope, and the Pope? Well, do you think that's appropriate? Because I think it's it really brings into this institutionalized idea of we need to add a third thing. And the rumbling that I heard in the Senate a year ago, where the two, there's two senators. One is from Georgia, so he's a minister, and there was another senator, and he he's a Democrat, and there's another senator who is also a minister who's a Republican. And I saw them interviewed, and it was a long interview, one of these extended Sunday morning interviews where they really get to talk and do deep dives into stuff. And they were talking about how they, and this is before Trump was inaugurated for the second time. So this happened like the week before his inauguration. And they were saying about how adding spirit back into this thing. And I remember having such a resonance and such a lift. I remember crying and thinking, oh gosh, this is it, the third thing. So we've got this yin and this yang, but we don't have that modulating third thing, right? And I'm like, was so hopeful, but you know, it was it was, you know, mainstream Christian, you know. But but the idea that they were talking about spirit, you know, in in some way, shape, or form. I was really, really encouraged. And I think it's so interesting about how just this just currently in the culture, as we're taping this, there's a feud with the fucking Pope. Yeah. And so they're picking on the third thing. They're picking on the modulation of the insanity. So the third thing is speaking up, and they're trying to discredit and annihilate the third thing. And then you tell me this thing, this quote that came out over the weekend from Hegseth's office. I don't think it was Hegseth.
SPEAKER_01It was Hegseth's office, yeah. It wasn't his one of his aides. One of his aides. So what what I think may be kind of at the base of this is they've been trying to control the third thing in service to themselves. Aaron Ross Powell Exactly. Are you talking about that biblical quote? This is this is where um they called the ambassador from the Vatican to the Pentagon. Did you hear about this?
SPEAKER_00No. But I just know Hagsteath did a biblical quote. Oh no, it wasn't that. Okay. Because it's not a biblical quote. It's actually more sinister than this, if you can believe it. I do believe it. But this other quote was from a movie. Not the Bible. From the Bible. So it shouldn't be attributed to Charlton Heston? No, not to the Bible or Spartacus. It's actually Spartacus. It's actually attributed to Samuel L. Jackson. Even better. From Pulp Fiction.
SPEAKER_03He did get down. He did get down and preach in pulp fiction.
SPEAKER_00He's without last night, so I know exactly the scene. I I can't figure out.
SPEAKER_03So Heggseth thought he was quoting scripture and he was quoting Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction. Beautiful.
SPEAKER_01No, this this story was they so they call this cardinal who is the the ambassador from the Vatican to uh guest to the United States. To the U.N., yeah. There's a U.N. ambassador. To the UN from the Vatican, yeah.
unknownTrevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_01And he's French. I can't remember his I I I don't recall his name, but he but he is a French citizen. And this I think it was one of Hegseth's deputies or aides or something says to this man the United States is going to go where it goes and do what it does and make wars where it wants, and the Vatican has to take a side. And before you choose sides, don't forget the Pope in Avignon. So the Avignon Papacy was the result of a king assassinating the Pope in Rome, coming up with his own pope to do his bidding and installing him in a palace in Avignon in France so that he could keep an eye on him.
SPEAKER_03So we we think it was one of the Louis.
SPEAKER_01I think it was one of the Louis. It was a French king.
SPEAKER_03It was a French king. Who did this?
SPEAKER_01Assassinated the Pope. So here's a less than veiled threat against the physical life of the Pope by a member of the Pentagon. This is just so beyond the beyond.
SPEAKER_03So the so what I I I had no idea about the story, and so of course, Deborah the the um the Walking Dictionary knows that this Pope was installed in France for eight years. I think it was eight or nineteen years. In Rome, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't like what he said.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell So it was a political coup taking over the Catholic Church.
SPEAKER_03Trevor Burrus And that's just come this weekend from our Pentagon to the Pope.
unknownTrevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_01Which I think is a fabulous vote of confidence for the Pope.
SPEAKER_02I do too.
SPEAKER_01Because everybody ignores the Pope. I mean, except except Catholics. Right? And it's normal.
SPEAKER_00Not anymore.
SPEAKER_01Not anymore, man. This guy has it going on. He is the Pope. He's a Pope. That's what you get when you get a Pope from Chicago, man.
SPEAKER_03And what cracks me up is his name is Bob.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Somehow that just Pope Bob just is delightfully hot dog to me. I know.
SPEAKER_01Rick Goodfield and Leo, right? Pope Leo. Yeah, I think that's his announcement. So I think he he chose he chose well because he's going to have to bring the lion to the table. Holy cow. So here is the force of that that that spiritual energy that has power, has money, has people, and is not going to support the given agenda. So I find that fascinating.
SPEAKER_03So I continue to go back to kind of the original understanding of the indigo age that institutions that do not work are going to just be destroyed. I didn't realize they would destroy themselves and lots of us in the process. But that is apparently what is happening. So I'm heartened by that. If you could see her face. It's true. It's absolutely true. That's where margarine came from. It's just yellow replacement for butter.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yellow something is a really good description. Yes, exactly. In fact, I think that is the legal description of margarine in many countries.
SPEAKER_03So one of the things that when I'm noticing it, I'm noticing it on myself. I don't see my own energies very well, but I'm noticing this. There's a point in the center of the palm called Pallas of Toil.
SPEAKER_00I'm going to add the theme song in here now.
SPEAKER_01The palace of toil. That's right. We have a palace of toil theme song. Thanks to Jill. Remember that? No. Oh, it's good. Is it good? Good.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. I'll play it for you at Brady. Okay. All right.
SPEAKER_03So that palm point, and so so in other words, what what I'm struggling with this morning, and in and and I don't have a poker face. I don't have a poker voice because you can't see my face.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03I don't have a poker mood. We'll put it that way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. When it's hit me. Poker and she's in a mood. Yes. Depending on how you poker.
SPEAKER_00It depends on the mood.
SPEAKER_01And with what you poker. You tickle me.
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SPEAKER_01Um sorry. We derailed Sarah. Palace of Toil.
SPEAKER_03Palace of Toil. Palace of Toil. So what I teach people when so what I'm doing, but I'm backbraining myself. I can't get my s I'm really having trouble getting out of my backbrain. And I'm and I know that my palace of toil, because the palace of toil is the point that connects you to all the suffering in the world. It's the stigmata point. It's the martyr point.
SPEAKER_01It's the And it's not a great idea to necessarily put that point on your main neurovasculars to try and get yourself out of back brain if it's not well organized.
SPEAKER_02That's very I actually don't I actually don't think that's true. I do think that I do think the mag I think circ sexual.
SPEAKER_03It's your blood. But yeah, exactly. So my my hands are not going to comfort my head. But yeah, so I tell my students to take that point and go counterclockwise on that point when you feel overwhelmed with the state of the world. So I can tell I'm a little wound up on that, but that is also the other side of that's the martyr point.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And there is a piece of me when I feel powerless, I feel like I can justify something, and I'm not quite sure what it is, by doing martyr.
SPEAKER_01Well, I think a lot of times we justify distractions and excesses by with martyrdom.
SPEAKER_03So I feel I feel and I and I know that's a bad energy, and I know that's an energy that's corruptive. And but I do, I feel, I feel there. I feel like I gotta I don't know what I mean to do.
SPEAKER_01Well, it's a ghost point. That's true. And it's the fire point. So it's fire.
SPEAKER_03So the ghost points of course it's a ghost point. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well it makes me Oh okay, go ahead. Oh, I was just it it it's reminding me again, as as as things remind me again and again and again of the words of my dear teacher Martin Brechtel when he talks about the only way to metabolize grief is by metabolizing it into beauty. And the things that make us unique as humans in the creation of beauty are our voices and our hands. So when we lose our voices or the sense that our voice has any strength or impact, and we lose the ability to feel and use our hands, we're really gonna be in trouble because that grief is gonna just accumulate and accumulate and accumulate. We cannot we cannot convert it into beauty. That and and we need that beauty in order to sustain ourselves minute to minute, hour to hour, day to day.
SPEAKER_03Here's what I wrote in my own damn paper about this point. Okay. This point, when activated by concern, can draw sad and needy energies to a person. It can feel overwhelming. If you're an empath who has difficulty separating self from others, this point can be very helpful in creating healthy attachments to those in need. Folks who get clobbered by the suffering of the world and great relief, they uh folks who get clobbered by the suffering in the world find great relief by circulating this point counterclockwise. My last line is I am of no good to this work if I am suffering too.
SPEAKER_01Amen, baby. Yes. One of the and one of the meanings, one of the old meanings of the word to suffer is to undergo. So we are all undergoing this together.
SPEAKER_00Next time, Sarah's cranky baby point is having a tantrum, and she shares how to fix it. We spend some time on Spleen21, Great Grandma Lowe, and Heart One, Ultimate Source. More of our favorite ideas show up, including frequency hopping, coherence, and universal consciousness. Thank you for listening to Put a Quarter in It, presented by Energy Medicine University and produced by Hip Chicks Create.