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Mental Health at Home: A Forgotten Priority
Mental health at home affects the entire neighborhood. Our energy, positive or negative, impacts family members and extends outward to our community, creating ripple effects we often don't recognize.
• Vulnerability is strength, particularly for men who struggle to communicate emotions
• Children absorb and mirror our behaviors, making it essential we model healthy mental health practices
• Taking a break from routine can relieve daily stressors for parents and caregivers
• Positive feedback and acknowledgment create powerful shifts in home environments
• Being transparent about mental health struggles teaches children valuable coping skills
• Physical connection like hugging provides surprising mental health benefits
• Everyone has mental health issues—it's how we address them that matters
• The "village" approach means neighbors supporting each other during difficult times
• Simple compliments to family members can transform your home's emotional climate
If you're dealing with mental health challenges at home, reach out to us at streetlightangelspodcast@gmail.com. You're not alone, and we're here to help.
All right, welcome back to Streetlight Angels podcast. I'm your host, josh Yarkowski, and I got Eugene with me. What's up everybody? We're back again to talk to you about a few other subjects, more specifically, mental health at home. It's an issue A lot of people don't like to talk about it, so we're going to talk about it. So, eugene, what you got for that man.
Speaker 2:You're right, mental health is one of those things that we think about it from the outside, like we know it goes on and things like that, but we really don't think about it from a village, neighborhood standpoint, to where how our mental health as neighbors affect the neighborhood as well. Because I know when I'm stressed and just dealing with taking care of my kids, it's hard to think about what's going on outside of the village and what's going on even how that extends out to the schools, and so that's one of the things is that I think we just need to always have that open dialogue that everybody is going through something and so how do we keep that in our subconscious as we deal with the day to day? Because we can make it better or make it worse, or they may. It may be where somebody, if they're conscious of it, is looking at making our day better as opposed to not worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it does. It's that energy that you know gets put on somebody else, even though they weren't feeling bad or having a bad day. You know, when you walk up to somebody who's got that energy pouring out of them, that negative energy or that, that mental health energy, it does man.
Speaker 2:It definitely affects change the vibe around, dude? Yeah, it changes, but it's almost like you have that one person who has that your demeanor, yeah, demeanor yeah, yeah, when you're around them constantly, you catch yourself being all oh well, yeah, yeah, yesterday is gonna be sunny. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like how you gonna be mad at a sunny day, right?
Speaker 1:right, right, right, exactly, and it's, it's, it's exhausting man and, honestly, like when I catch myself in it, even right now I'm tired. Right, like I'm not going to lie, I'm tired and I know that my energy level being tired, including all the life be life and stuff happened to me right now. Right, it's got to be demanding on the people around me, especially considering I'm usually always out and about, and what I would want to do is I wouldn't want people like you to recognize that and be like yo, josh, flip that dude, like come on, and all it would take would be a conversation for me, some people a lot more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think some people, I think our society has put it to where mental health is private and I think that it should be to a certain extent. And what I mean by that is that if it's too personal for you, then you need to handle it on a personal level. But if it's kind of like how, when you're out in the area doing your thing and networking and stuff like that, you may not notice that your demeanor has changed from what people normally see, and people should be okay with saying, hey, is everything okay? Do you need something? And you may be like, yeah, I just need a minute and a cup of coffee and you'll be right back to yourself. Yeah, let me collect myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me recalibrate, right. Right, we say that a lot. You do that at home. You know what I mean. Like man with the kids, kids, dude, and things are going on. You got 50 million things happening and then and then you bring in that type of energy, that negative or that uh mental health issue that you got going on. That's just constantly like pinging on. Everybody's got problems. Man, right, if you don't have problems, then you're not human, you most definitely not living in america that's right, absolutely exactly, if you.
Speaker 2:If you ain't got problems, it's going to the gas station, that's right, that's right, and so your kids have problems.
Speaker 1:You have problems, right, and you're at home, right, and this is what kills me the most is, sometimes my kids will have their own problems, but I'm now putting my problems on them and making it even worse for the child's brain. Right, and that is dude. That is the worst thing you could do. You know what I mean and you know that. If all you need is a moment to be better.
Speaker 2:I guarantee you, everybody would be okay with sitting back for you know, two, three minutes letting you reset and having a woosah moment so that that way, boom, you're hitting those bullets that you need to hit. As far as you know, you're making dinner, doing homework. At the same time you're cleaning up after toddlers. I mean, it's so many things that you're multitasking. The one thing you're not doing is sometimes taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1:Right, vulnerability is not necessarily a bad thing, right. I believe being transparent about that, your vulnerability is actually more beneficial, and if you keep it up in yourself and you, you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think it's a key factor in communication Balance. That, yeah, and that's and I think that's part of the reason why men have a hard time communicating is because we leave out the vulnerability part of it. It's like we want to tell you the hard facts and be analytical when it comes to issues, but we leave out that vulnerability, you know.
Speaker 1:I go home all the time if I'm having not so good of a day.
Speaker 1:It used to happen with me like every day in the military.
Speaker 1:I would just be beat in the military, go home and I wouldn't take it out on my family, but they would feel that and then, you know, it would usually spark an argument or something, just because and now lately I haven't really been dealing with the military and it's all different kind of stress that I've been dealing with. But when I go home, larissa, you know my wife will be like it doesn't sound like you right now, what's going on. And then it triggers something in me to where I could be like oh, you know, I'm sorry. Like, I'm sorry, you're right, like let me give me a second, you know what I mean. And they did take a couple of deep breaths, but now she could see it. And then now the fact that I think it's it's one of those things where I'm allowing me to be open to that Right, and if I had known that a long time ago man, you know, that's what with comedy, with stand up comedy when you're on stage, the more vulnerable you are.
Speaker 2:It's when your career starts taking off is because then people can relate to the humor Right, because you're taking a vulnerable situation and not not necessarily just joking about it, yeah, but showing a lighter side of it, sure. And so then it becomes there.
Speaker 1:Like oh, so I'm not the only one that deals with the crap.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Right Comedy to me and what you do, right Comedy to me and what you do. And to me it's an amazing thing, because comedy to me has always been more real when someone opens up about something that I can relate to or I feel good about. But I can resonate with Right and I'm like man. That is hilarious because I literally just had to deal with that crap the other day.
Speaker 2:Right, you know what I mean, so and so, and that's what I like too is is I don't pick my premises based off of what I think other people will think is funny. Sure, I just pick my premises off of life. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And actual events yeah yeah, like you know my life, I had my first kid at 13. It's like, yeah, I could like have a pity party and be like you know, ultimately I just made poor choices, sure, one of them being terrible pullout. But you know, but you know, as 45 now that 13 year old has come a long way, sure, and so you could take real situations and find the humor in them and in that way, somebody else who's been in the same similar situation, or know somebody. There's a little bit of light at the end of that tunnel. And it just depends on how you process it. And with mental health being at the forefront of the thought process in society, now is a perfect time to say, hey, it's okay to be vulnerable. A tough guy who's vulnerable is even tougher, because you're taking that one thing that you consider a weakness and giving it to somebody to help you either heal or process.
Speaker 1:Dude, and it's so much more chill on myself. And that may sound selfish, but the more vulnerable I am to my family and open and transparent to them, the more I feel better. Oh yeah, you know what I mean. So, like the other day, dude, I was driving home with my son, my youngest boy, and he just got finished with sparring at martial arts and I mean I just I'm so proud of him. You know what I mean, but I I don't say it enough. And I was driving home and said I just said, you know, but I'm super proud of you, bro, you're doing amazing things and I am proud to be your father. And it was awkward saying it because I don't say it enough. Right, and that's now. I can just visualize myself being more transparent and vulnerable to my boy. I mean, I don't know how he felt after I said that, but I guarantee if my dad said that to me randomly, like that, I'd be like oh dude, I'd be flying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know You'd be wanting to check and see if he's okay medically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, it's like how's everything? How's mom yeah?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, exactly Because you're not used to that and I think I've fallen short a little bit when it comes to those proud moments. But I tried, because I didn't get it from my dad, I do try. I, because I didn't get it from my dad, I do try. And, like I even told my son that I was proud of him and his journey, of where he's been and where he's going, he texted me back that that meant so much to him and it was just literally two sentences that text him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, and it's crazy, man, the amount of impact you have. And so if you're doing that on a positive note, you know listeners, if your guys are at home and you've got, you know, mental health issues, you know a disability to yourself, well, you know you, it's a problem and you're putting that negativity on your children. If something is a positive thing has such an impact on, imagine the constant negative impact. Right, you know what I mean. And so if you become right, vulnerable, right, so vulnerable, vulnerable, a lot of people don't even like the idea.
Speaker 1:Like a man, an alpha, would be, like I'm not vulnerable, you know what I mean. Like, get that out of my face, dude. Like and I used to be that way and, to be honest, man, like I don't care anymore, right, like I'm allowed, I'm gonna let my kids see me. Mean, and I, I might have issues at home with my wife and with my kids, but I would assume that if we could work that out together, collectively, that they would want to do that same thing when they get older and they have kids, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be their blueprint, you know, because even if we don't explain things, they still see our physical behavior and will mimic it unintentionally. That's dangerous man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like the last episode we talked about bullying your parents acting like a bunch of douchebags at home, their kid's going to act like a stupid douchebag at school. You know what I mean? It's not their fault. It's their parents' fault, you know.
Speaker 2:And I'll tell you this like I'm not a big spanker, but every now and then I'll pop my kids, especially for blatant things. Like I'm not a, I'm a pop for everything Right. And it blew my mind how much that affects them, because my daughter tripped the other day. It was the floor's fault and she wanted me to pop the floor and I was like I just felt it was funny, did you? Stomp on that floor. She did not stop. I was like baby, I can't whoop the floor.
Speaker 1:Bro, you should have tried, though I did. Because you do anything for your toddler, of course, of course. I'm just visualizing that right now.
Speaker 2:So I went all out, like my grandmother would. I was like how many times have I told you?
Speaker 1:No way, dude, did you really that's?
Speaker 2:awesome and my little three. I was like yes yes, that's right.
Speaker 1:You stupid floor, right. How dare you trip me, right? That's funny.
Speaker 2:But because I couldn't explain to her. Like you know, you got to pick up your toys, you got to do this.
Speaker 1:I was like now let's clean up so floor. Didn't have this problem again, oh god you know. But you showed the floor who's boss right, without having to. I don't know, did you slap the floor?
Speaker 2:you spank the floor, yes I think that's what she wanted. I guess she had told the floor several times, I don't know. Oh, okay, but she was like so reoccurring event. Then, yeah, she was like this floor keeps on tripping me up. She's like it's not correlating that. You know, the floor would be the problem if she would pick up some of her stuff, sure, sure and uh. But you know, I made it about the floor because sometimes it's a teaching moment and sometimes it's okay.
Speaker 1:Let's play along with yeah, you need to teach that fast, because I have a feeling that girl could be narcissistic as hell in the future, it's going to be everybody's fault but her. Including the floor. Right, you know what I mean, so be careful with that one Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, and the thing is is that you know, even after having 10 kids, I'm still not an expert, right, but you think you would be, but no, because each generation is different, that's right man, it's different environmental factors.
Speaker 1:Relearning the wheel every single time I can imagine.
Speaker 2:Man, like these last two, the COVID babies. I learned sign language because you know it's like. My wife was like oh well, this is supposed to help them better as far as communicating, and I didn't appreciate the sign language because I got out of the shower one time and they're signing milk. They're signing milk Really.
Speaker 1:And I knew the sign because it's very obvious.
Speaker 2:The sign was to get your ass in the gym, and that's why I wear t-shirts at the beach.
Speaker 1:And in the shower. Now, covid kids gave you a complex. They shamed me.
Speaker 2:That's what they did, didn't even know it, you know. So what I thought I was like? You know, I'm very responsible when it comes to discipline, and so it just made me more conscious of that, because they recognize that certain situations you might warrant a spanking, and so her situation was this floor keeps tripping her up, it needed a spanking, you know. Floor keeps tripping her up, it needed a spanking, you know. But you could create an environment to where your kids respond to your behavior so much that, on the negative side, that now they're yelling at each other because it's normalized as opposed to we can love on them and tell them we're proud. It's like my son will tell his sister that she's pretty and everything. He just turned four. But I tell them that they don't need to look outside their home for compliments.
Speaker 1:Sure, you know to be lifted up. You know what I'm going to do this tonight. I'm going to go home and I'm going to tell my boys to give at least three compliments to either their brother, you know, because I got three boys so either to their brother or to their mom Right boys. So either to their brother or to their mom right, and I'm gonna tell them separately and see how it happens. I'm gonna tell them this secret, don't tell anybody. You're gonna give at least three, but I want to be there to listen to them. I want to see the reaction of the up. You know whoever they give the compliment to, and I just want to see where that goes. It's like a little, let's just see a little, but I bet you, man, that could change some things.
Speaker 2:My wife is like all Cree will say, mom, your hair is beautiful. And for her, you know, she is more self-conscious of how her hair looks. She wants to look professional, she wants to you know all these things, yeah, and it's like, for you know, her kid notice and I'm glad that I noticed too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how rewarding is that for a little one to say that, because if he was doing it and I wasn't.
Speaker 2:It's like how did your four-year-old notice that that's true.
Speaker 1:So then you give him a slap around and afterwards be like hey, you better tell me to give the compliment before you, I taught him that. That's how he noticed Exactly there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2:And you know that's a leadership quality right there, right, and, and that's the thing is like, even in the leadership trainings that you'll do, sure, yeah, you know part of a leader is telling people, hey, great job, and you know it's kind of like praise correct, praise Dude.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you, man, one of my favorite time in the military is that of the 21 years. Actually, and I remember this to this day a guy named William Wells, he was my supervisor at the time when I was a young buck in the Navy and he gave me my first positive counseling and it was an actual that you would do negative counseling on, but it has the option to be to do positive counseling and the dude gave me a positive counseling check. It was kind of almost comedic to other people because they were like what is this? You know what I mean. And so I kept that and I made it a point to every single new leadership position I had. I would always quarterly give a positive counseling to somebody. Nice, I was the only one in any command ever to be doing this.
Speaker 1:Now, imagine I should have took that home with me and start doing that at home, because I don't Even with mental health issues between my whole family. Like you know, it's going to sound to the listeners that we're all a bunch of crazies, but everyone has some kind of mental health issue, everybody in the world, in the planet. I mean, those are a Buddha. Even Buddha's got mental health issues because they got to figure out some way to connect with the flower. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So, but either way, there's something there right, right, right, right Now, if I'm vulnerable and I open up and I apply that positive energy and that that positive reinforcement to them, to the family, it's going to be reciprocated somehow or another Right Right. So if you're a listener, you listen to our episode right now on a little bit of at home mental health. Not only do you take that home to your, to your family, your relatives, your peers, your brothers, your sisters, whatever, your kids, your children especially. Allow them and teach them to bring that into the village Right, just like at home. Bro, we take that at home and we put it into the village Right. It's going to be reciprocated value.
Speaker 2:It's going to feel good later. Even if you had a bad day at work, what could you, your supervisor, have done to make it better? Sure, do that at home, because sometimes people have bad days at home and I know you have said, hey hon, I'll make dinner tonight, and that's just because you sense that she needed that break, and sometimes it's just the break in the routine, not the break.
Speaker 1:Lately it's been hey, I'm going to drop the boys off in the morning or I'm going to be the one picking them up today.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean, and just that 30, 45 minutes worth of time that she gets to herself, it's huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. And me it's like if I could sleep in because my brain is more active at night. All my years in the fire department I had to be alert when everyone else is sleeping. Sure, sure, turn off. Yet for me it's kind of like with you, you're still getting up in the am. You know, because of that, that work schedule you did for 21 years that it hadn't turned off, that even if you're not doing something, you're laying there figuring out what you could be doing. Yep, absolutely.
Speaker 2:But the break in the routine it sometimes helps relieve some of the stressors of the day to day. It's not that your day to day is stressful, is that the routine? You know, it's like. You know, being locked in on a set schedule can sometimes become stale. It's put a bad taste in your mouth. Oh, yeah for sure. Especially if changing diapers every day for at home mom, changing diapers every day To have one diaper not be changed by you, it feels like a reward. Sure, you know. But then old school people or people who are raised old school, like would be like that's your job. It's not that you're complaining about it because it's something, but it's just like, even when it's your job, we take vacations. You can't vacate your family. We take vacations, you can't vacate your family. And a lot of people who grew up in a village they didn't have to worry about that, because they would have an aunt or uncle or a grandparent come by and say, hey, I'm gonna keep the kids for a few hours.
Speaker 1:You know, go do something. You know, and if we have, you know, mental health issues in our house and it gets bad enough to where we just can't break that Like I think that would be sick if we could get somebody from the village or a neighborhood we call, we call it the village all. If you haven't noticed that by now, our community, which we call the village, someone from our village should just be like hey, did I see you in a place? And that place isn't going to be good, it's going to be pretty toxic for your little ones, and they come just like the old lady that used to live, or you know, yeah, it was an old lady that used to live in your neighborhood that said let me get those kids while you can go to the store and actually focus on the things that you need to get to the store. Right, you just said that today. Yes, and so same thing with the house, like I wish and I want, and I'm going to a matter of fact, I'm going to.
Speaker 1:I could just see, even if it is you, uh, and that I could just tell, and I'm just be like look, I see, you know, I know your kids are going to probably feel that if I'm seeing it, your kids are going to feel that energy. So let me, let me come in and kick it with the little ones for a little bit, or have them come to my house and play video games, whatever they want to do, and just go, just go be you for an hour or two. Yeah, I mean, that's actually a cool idea.
Speaker 2:If you think about like.
Speaker 2:No pay, yeah, no money. When you drop a kid off at a music program or soccer, sometimes when you see that mom sitting there she seems so free. Yeah, like it's almost like she's playing catch up Now her life. Sure, that kid is doing that activity for an hour or two, yeah, and you know. And they have a little bit more sense of balance than that.
Speaker 2:If you have a child or an adult who's autistic, or you have a parent who has dementia and has to have 24 hours of monitoring so that they don't over medicate themselves, and things like that, they have groups and programs that you can reach out to to give you those small breaks in the schedule because they know how demanding it's going to be. But it does need to be a village for us as far as just like not necessarily just single parents, because they even got it even more they don't have anyone to lean on in the home. They may have, you know, parents outside the home or other relatives that they can, you know, call out to periodically, but sometimes, because we have so much shame on mental health. Now we're trying to fix that and make it a part of the day to day dialogue that you don't want to call and say hey, you know I'm stressed or I'm feeling a little depressed today. You feel a little shame in that, yeah dude.
Speaker 1:I hit I text a friend of mine yesterday and said hey, man, I see I see your stress. I didn't say man, it's actually a woman. And I said I saw your stress, I just want you to know you handle it quite well. But she took it personal at first, like, seriously, I'm looking like I stressed out, you know what I mean Meaning I'm not looking like the best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she took like the physical aspect of it and I said no, no, no, no, no. Like I can feel it, like I can see it, just like when I'm stressed, every I could be looking sharp as hell that day, but I still may look like I still I'm still may feel and look like I'm stressed, you know Right. But I told her and I can see it and on top of that, I see what you're doing and I know it's stressful. So I said you didn't really good. I'm watching you do this stuff and you're doing really good. And I know when she listens to this episode she's going to know exactly what I'm talking about. It was acknowledged and then it was reciprocate like man, wow, I appreciate that. And then I talked to her today and I was like today and I was like take a couple deep breaths.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Like you got this, you know right, and not only did it, I feel like it could have helped, but it also helped me recalibrate myself too, right. So like I feel like if I would told this, my son's, that, and I would be like hey, dude's, like I see you upset that game, got you mad, that, whatever got you upset? Um, take a couple deep breaths, bro, and then it gets me feeling the same way, like man I'm, I'm upset for nothing, dude, right you know what I mean or nothing I can't talk about.
Speaker 1:Talk through.
Speaker 2:I should say right, like you're saying that vibe and you felt a vibe from her. Yeah, that's not her norm, but you could also see you're doing this, this and this. Yeah, so it makes sense for you to be at your capacity or close to it and uh. But sometimes when you're doing that much and someone says, hey, you handle all of that well, what you have on your plate, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the name of the game is positive feedback, like get it. The more you dish it, the more you're going to get back on that positive feedback, even if they don't get it back to you right. Then and there you should be able to feel it yourself as you're providing that to somebody. So do that for your children. If you got mental health issues, be transparent, open up. Streetlight Angels podcast is here for you to comment so that you can come in and you can open up to us, be vulnerable to us, even if you do it anonymously. Open up to us so that we can talk about it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Talk about it on the air, talk about it with you individually, if that's the case. Talk about your personal issues that you have or mental health issues that you have that you can't break the mold on. And let's Shreelight Angels bring that you know light to the street lights. Let us hash it out to where we can get you some, some resources or get you over that lump or that hump or that obstacle or whatever you want to call it. You know what I mean An analogy, but but that's what Streetlight Angels is for, right.
Speaker 2:Right, I mean because you got to think about it. Statistically speaking, it's at least you or someone you know is dealing with a mental health. That's right, and so it's one degree of separation, that's right, and so, if you're not the one, it might be the person sitting next to you that need anything but a pat on the shoulder or a hug man and I tell my leadership classes I'm doing for kids One of my biggest topics on the very first.
Speaker 1:I don't want to give it away, but the very first lesson that I'm going to be doing for ages seven to nine is understanding that the kid, the child right next to them, has problems just like they do, and what we want to do is make sure that we're utilizing their, our ability to get over a problem, to help them with a certain problem, and vice versa, because there's problems that you probably have, bro, that ain't problems to you, but they're huge problems to me, and vice versa. So you help each other. You know, grow as a village to get over that stuff.
Speaker 2:Um, I just realized something about you that you may not notice, but I think one of the reasons why you can handle so much is because you're a hugger. I'm a hugger dude, I'm a big hugger bro. I think you decompress a lot when you hug. I do, man you know what?
Speaker 1:you know what? I'm gonna tell you the secret dude, like if I got problems I'm gonna hug somebody because I feel like I'm putting that problem on there.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding dude, Sure yeah.
Speaker 1:I am a hugger and most of that is because I grew up in Italy and you know we do the hug and the cheek kisses and that's what grown men like I was riding motorcycles out there with, like some pipe hitting crazy motorcycle riding. You know what I mean, dudes, motorcycle riding, you know what I mean, dudes and I come up to them. It'd be a hug, pecks on the cheek, dude, just like nobody's. You mean and I'm talking to your scruff, you know touching each other's cheeks and stuff, but that wasn't a thing. And so, like here in the States, I come back and I do give hugs, man, and I've had it awkward before and I'll call them out on me, like well, you don't like hugs? Then All right, you know. But Now there's a guy he's a good friend of mine now he hated hugs. Now when I see him, dude, he's so big, he hugs me and picks me up, he looks forward. Now, dude, now we hug each other. But yeah, he rewired his brain.
Speaker 2:That's right, and they have so many studies. As far as hugs, even if you don't know what to say, especially at home, there's not enough hugs at home at one point, but now that I see the importance of that contact on a mental health perspective, Sure, yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Okay. So listeners, if you listen to this episode, go home and give your family a hug.
Speaker 2:Right, you know be vulnerable. Right, don't tell them it was because of the podcast.
Speaker 1:That's right it comes from your heart, not from ours, and be sincere about it. You know what I mean. Try to keep it a regular thing, and you know this is Streetlight Angels podcast. You can come talk to us. Please find us on social media. You can email us at streetlightangelspodcast at gmailcom. Got to reach out to us. We're going to be able to see our goofy faces and everybody else that comes on the podcast, his goofy face, that's right.
Speaker 1:And then if you do see me out in town and you say, man, I saw you, I heard you, or I've seen you, you know, come give me a hug. I don't got no problems with giving hugs, as long as you don't smell. You know what I mean. We're cool. But no, enjoy the podcast. Let us know if you've got.