Psychic Predictions, Twin Telepathy & Past Lives — with the Psychic Twins

How do you predict the future — and why would you want to?

In this wild and wonderful episode, Kari sits down with the legendary Psychic Twins, Terry and Linda Jamison, whose predictions have stunned the world (including 9/11). These identical twins don’t just finish each other’s sentences - they share one soul in two bodies.

You’ll hear stories that sound almost too surreal to be true:
 🌪️ Predicting major world events through automatic writing
 🎭 Performing on SNL as a two-headed housewife
🪩 Dancing at Studio 54 in custom twin couture
🌀 Navigating chronic illness, psychic overload, and shadow work
🔮 And how YOU can start trusting your own intuition — for real

This is part comedy show, part spiritual activation — and all heart.
 If you’ve ever wondered how psychic predictions work, what it really means to be a twin flame, or why your past lives still matter, this episode will expand your beautifully open mind.

Stay tuned for a powerful magic lesson at the end — and don’t forget to laugh along the way.

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📚 Books mentioned: Separated at Earth, You Can’t Fix Stupid, Psychic Intelligence

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Transcript

Predicting the Future with the Psychic Twins

Kari: [00:00:00] I am fangirling today because the two incredible human slash extraterrestrial beings that I have on today are, I have just like, loved them for years. I've been following them for years and it is such an honor and delight to have them with with us on the Get Psych podcast. Terry and Linda Jameson, otherwise known as the psychic Twins, are fabulous.

Kari: They are fashionable, they are fun, and they are super fantabulous psychics who have predicted thousands of world events. Documented. I won't talk about all of them now, but, um, they're documented throughout time and they've written. How many books? Several books. But four. Four books, [00:01:00] yeah. Yes. And um, the two that I love Separated at Birth and you Can't Fix No.

Kari: Separated at Earth. Separated at Earth. That's right. Yeah. And you can't fix stupid. 

Terry: Those are your favorites. I love, I love those two the best too. Yeah, those are my favorite. Thank you for reading them. 

Kari: Yeah. You can't fix stupid. So life advice for all of us and here they are today, giving us some. Magical life advice.

Kari: So welcome psychic twins. Thank. Hi Carrie. 

Terry: Hi doers psychic. Happy to be here. Psychic twin powers activate, right? That's right. That's it. We're super call futuristic. That's right. Thank you. 

Kari: So I've been fan. Fans. I'm like, now here I am. Like, I'm, I'm talking like I'm two people. I've been fans of yours. 

Terry: You are, but your, your twin is in a [00:02:00] parallel dimension, right?

Terry: Parallel dimension. 

Kari: Exactly. So I, I still wanna talk about, so when I knew, I like to do things with themes and. At the time of this recording, we're in Gemini season, so I had to Right. I had to invite you. Yes, absolutely. Of course we have to. But what's perfect day to do? What's joyful is that you actually said yes and came on.

Kari: So that was the magic. 

Terry: We're so excited to be here. We're gonna have so much fun. We love you and we're excited. We're getting sight just 

Kari: like the name. Well, I'm so glad that it's mutual. I. You know what? One of the things I love about you, the many things. It's not just your psychicness. Like I always talk about entertainment and enlightenment together, and you two are fun and funny.

Kari: And did you both write for SNL. 

Terry: We actually starred on SNL as comedians. Oh my God. And we were the two headed [00:03:00] housewife, Louise Louise's, tidy T back in the eighties. It's on, it's on YouTube. Uh, it's uh, you go to Jameson twins. S-N-L-J-A-M-I-S-O-N. Twins. Yeah. It's not a lie, it's just go to SNL on YouTube and put in.

Terry: Jameson twins. Uh uh, James Jameson, twins. SNL Sorry, I stammered. Lemme do that again. Put in jamon twins, SNL, and you'll see a five minute tape of us giving tidy tips. Housekeeping tips. Uh, we had our own family. We're doing dancing. We're a two-headed housewife. We designed and created the character. That's amazing.

Terry: And we're the only twins to ever appear on SNL 

Kari: That is in 50 years. That is so cool. So I not people new. I was telling you before I actually had the wallpaper in my house that you had on that, which I think is so awesome in that that's, 

Terry: that's amazing. In that sketch. Oh, that's so funny. I'm so glad. 'cause I know [00:04:00] you did, uh, performance and comedy yourself, right?

Terry: Yeah. Well 

Kari: I didn't, I wasn't a comedian, but I. Grew up in a Roseanne Roseanna T-shirt. Like I slept in it. I, I love Gilder Rat Long. Her and I wanted to be on snl, but I did a lot of comedy. When I did theater. It was like, 

Terry: oh, I could see that. Oh, I could definitely be bet You were very funny. I was. You are. I was.

Terry: Well, you know, it's funny now, people always used to say to us, oh, you can't be psychic and comedians, what are you talking about? Honestly, even famous talk show in England said you can't be a comedian and a psychic. And we're like, oh yeah, I actually think you have to be 

Kari: funny. Watch us. I think you have to be funny to like connect like in some ways because it's about being light and I find spirit guides hilarious.

Terry: Yes, yes, they can. Well, that's what we're doing is channeling them when we're funny, right? Yeah. Yes, absolutely. I [00:05:00] think, uh, yeah, comedy, it makes you more psychic. Yeah, it, it's like art, painting, writing, anything that you do, dance, it makes you more intuitive. Not less and you can do it all. Yeah. You know, we're here to show and improve that.

Terry: Absolutely. We've proven that for decades. Yeah. It puts you in a space of receptivity when you're musical doing something. Creative art, dance, anything like that. And so that's why a lot of creatives end up becoming intuitives. 

Kari: I think so mean because you have to, it's like a right brain function. You have to like let.

Kari: Something bigger takeover and, and turn off your brain and let that creativity flow. And I feel like anytime I'm writing something or doing something, it exists out there. It's already out there. And you have to open up your psychic channels to allow it come to. Oh, 

Terry: absolutely. Well channeling. Yeah. Yeah. 

Kari: Oh, [00:06:00] you know what?

Kari: I think people are also gonna wonder. Which one's Terry? Which one's Linda? So can you introduce yourself? Oh, yes, I am Terry, and I'm an alcoholic. 

Terry: No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm not. Never gonna happen on my watch. I'm Linda. She's a sober one's, so 

Kari: somebody's gotta watch over your. So that's right before we, before we started.

Kari: So it was Terry that was helping with the, putting the tech and everything like that. Terry's 

Terry: good with computers. Yes, I, I've been doing computer stuff for probably four decades. I had one of those really ancient Apple computers when it first came out. Oh my 

Kari: goodness. 

Terry: That's how long I've been doing computers, but I'm not like great at Zoom or anything like 

Kari: that.

Kari: Nobody is, 'cause Zoom is hard to deal with. So the the reason that I knew that it would be you, Terry, [00:07:00] that was maybe more like that. And I asked you if, if you were born first and the way I knew that was because of your names, how is that Carrie? So when I. People always ask like, okay, if twins have the same birth chart, like how are they different?

Kari: No, of course we all have our own souls and I definitely wanna talk about you 'cause I think you're not, not necessarily we're a 

Terry: split soul, one soul in two body soul antibodies, right? You're 

Kari: one soul, and we are gonna talk about that in a moment, but while you're here separated at earth, right? You. Terry were born first, right?

Kari: That's right. And so when I look at twins, I look at their names to see how their personalities are gonna take shape, because in numerology, I'm actually more interested in letters than numbers. 

Terry: Okay. That's very [00:08:00] interesting. And the 

Kari: letters tell about. Your personality and the first letter and the vowels are very important in numerology.

Kari: And so the letter T like a tree is very sheltering and protective and the, and it's, it's a two, which is very much like always looking out for other people and okay, so I figure, well, you would be the more protective. Probably the older one. And Linda? 

Terry: Yes. Yes. And I'm like skeptical and I'm more like.

Terry: She's suspicious. Like I'm always watching for the bad thing to happen. Yeah. And I'm, I'm a, an incurable optimist. Mm-hmm. But I have a cynical side, so that's where we connect. But I'm much more optimistic and she's more a caution, caution, caution. 

Kari: Yeah. Because the T is [00:09:00] very like, like a tree is very like, I'm gonna watch you over you and protect you.

Kari: And the, like that Linda. Like an LOD, like the L is like always sensing things, right? Oh, the T is always sensing things too, but the L is like picking up on people's energy and that is true. Yes. It makes me sick. I mean, exhausted. Yeah, it is exhausting. Yeah. And the, the L is a three in numerology, which is optimism.

Linda: Okay. And 

Kari: creativity. Yes. Okay. Let's see. And, and so I figured, well, you would be the more like, um, maybe the younger, even if it's a few minutes twin, that's more like, let's do this. And Terry's like, let's think about this. 

Terry: Yes. Caution. That is so true. That's true. That I jump in and just make a mask. It's like, wait, what?

Terry: What did you just do? Yeah, we can't do that again. How do I clean it up? 

Kari: Yeah, exactly. And it's [00:10:00] in your names. And so your first v Terry is an E, which is, I don't know, you both do automatic writing and maybe Terry, maybe you even do a little more of that. And the I in Linda's name is more impulsive because it's fire, so, 

Terry: wow.

Terry: Interesting. That is so true. I am the one that obsessively writes and since childhood Oh, 

Kari: interesting. Okay. Created 

Terry: our own divination system of automatic writing or channel writing. 

Kari: Okay. Maybe Terry, did you speak more? 'cause the E is associated with speaking. And write in words, but the I is a channel.

Kari: The I is a channel in Linda as well. So maybe that's where you have that, you know, the direct dial situation. 

Terry: That does make sense. Yeah, do that line. Yeah. Yeah. We're two lines. No waiting actually. You're gonna wait a long time. 

Kari: So that's how I see your names and that's when I tune into it. [00:11:00] That's fascinating.

Kari: Someone. I look at their name and the name starts to speak to me as well. But that's cool. But the letters in your name are divined before you're born. Like we choose our bodies, we choose our parents, we choose our life path. 

Terry: Right, right. Love it. 

Kari: So that's, that's how your names reflect your role as two souls in one Body?

Terry: Body. Yes. Yes. It's called a bifurcated soul carry. Can you talk about that? 

Kari: Because I know everyone's always asking about twin flames, but you are like. You know, and everyone thinks twin flames are like lovers or whatever. You're actually two souls in one. But can you, can you talk about what that means and how that Yeah.

Kari: We've 

Terry: never, well, we've never met another bifurcated soul. Other people probably have kind of stolen the term, but the famous channeled Bashar told us that he was the first one, I think, to tell us he still works. Uh, yeah. We went to a lecture of his, what, 25, 30 years ago, [00:12:00] and he said, you are a bifurcated soul.

Terry: And you're, you're like, like he two helixes that are twirling together into the atmosphere. Yeah. Like two Galax stars revolving around a common sun. Wow. And he did not even know we were the psychic twins that were. 30 years ago, but he didn't know that. Has he 

Kari: been around 30 years? I literally just heard of him yesterday.

Terry: He has? He has so long. I'm not kidding. 

Kari: I just heard of him yesterday. 

Terry: Oh, you just heard of him? Oh, he's fascinating. Oh, he's fascinating. He's so, he's interesting. Hi, Bahar. Shout out. Yeah, he's very interesting. And he told you you were too. Oh, he, I'm sorry. And we are, we are one soul with two bodies, and that's a bifurcated soul.

Terry: I'm sorry. And he said it was so rare he didn't know any either. But yeah, one soul in two bodies. And since then, other twins have tried to. Bogart that, but we, but we are here to say that we think and behave as if we're one person. In fact, we'll be in two different [00:13:00] rooms, Carrie, and we'll channel the same information and the same details about the terror attacks or the future for someone.

Terry: Uh, and, or, or the, uh, you know, what is it? Name, name of what? Hurricane. Hurricane. We'll be channeling it at the same time. Who, what, when and where. And we'll compare notes and everything will be the same. Everything, and that's how we predicted nine 11. It's just really weird to the detail. Is it weird? Is it 

Kari: great?

Kari: Is it both? Is it 

Terry: all? It's weird In the best way possible. Yeah, it's really cool. We can't stop one stop. We cannot stop if we wanted to. 

Kari: It's cool. I'm glad to hear it because I think everyone's fascinated with being a twin in general, and I would think all twins are. Telepathic on some level. 

Terry: Uh, many, not all, but uh, men.

Terry: Actually, there was a study in England done, uh, years ago where they found that only 30% of twins, uh, have any [00:14:00] telepathic connection at all. And they did, was close, you know, experiments, very detailed studies, and they found out only 30% have. A psychic or telepathic connection. That's 

Kari: too bad. I mean, you spend nine months, up to nine months in the womb together, you'd think.

Kari: Yeah. I mean, talk about not getting along with your roommate. I mean, 

Terry: well, yeah. It's like a ride share. We call it a ride share. We come in together, friends coming together, but some of them really have no connection. Even personality. They go their separate ways and never really speak again. That's. It's all ourselves womb mates.

Terry: Because we, 

Kari: that's what I was thinking when I said roommate, you were thinking, and of course puns are my love language, so, so how is it cool? Like what is the experience like being two souls and one soul and two bodies? I gotta get that straight, 

Terry: right? It's very. I mean, we're learning, we always thought it was normal, right.

Terry: Growing up. But then we didn't, we were so [00:15:00] psychic even as children for other people mm-hmm. That we, you know, people started to look at us like sideways, you know? 'cause we were doing so many predictions for people, even as children carried in grade school. We come from a. Family of very successful painters and writers.

Terry: Mm-hmm. What are colorists and writers? Yeah. And so we were just naturally, uh, kind of like prodigies as children. We could do full figure portraits at five or six years old of people that we went to school with. 

Linda: Right. 

Terry: And so we just thought, well, this is normal. But you know, after a while it became obvious that we had, uh, a lot of these abilities.

Terry: We, this was back in the sixties when nobody knew what a psychic was, especially in our small town. You think with all that LSD, 

Kari: they would've figured it out. 

Terry: Thank you. Would think and, and that probably made people psychic. Right? There was no understanding of it. [00:16:00] Even our parents thought we were just too weird.

Terry: Uh, they tried to resist interacting because we were so psychic. It made them nervous. It would. And so yes, it makes a, a lot of people nervous. Yes, unfortunately. But you know, in those days, people just weren't attuned to the spiritual world and we naturally came in, spiritually evolved beings. And so we developed over many decades our own.

Terry: Iconography and, and the automatic writing, the channeled writing. We were producers of events in New York City. We headed up a, a comedic troupe, uh, and uh, in the eighties, we call it a, in the eighties, well, we called it a psychic. It was a really, a fan, a fantasy night circus. Uh. And so we did that for over 10 years in New York City.

Terry: We traveled all over the country and even England. England. And uh, it was so fabulous. We write about that in our book. 

Linda: Mm-hmm. 

Terry: And, uh, I designed all the costumes. Linda's [00:17:00] a fantastic costume designer. And, uh, her costumes that we both wore for probably three decades, uh, inspired all of the biggest pop stars, all of them.

Terry: And you'll, if you look, that's a nice way of putting a nice 

Kari: picture. I'll share some, but there's pictures of like. Studio 54. Now. I grew up in New York, so I'm like, I love, yes, we we at 

Terry: Studio 54. I know there are pictures of us at Studio 54 now. Cher's perfume launch in the eighties. Cher hired us for her perfume launch.

Terry: We had her. Same wig maker. Oh, please. The same hairdresser as Cher? Yeah. Wow. Like he was a little expensive Barry. He did the big beehive ones that were well known for. I mean, uh, it was, it's trippy. It was trippy. The eighties were fun and crazy. We never did drugs. But everyone at the party, everyone else did high on something.

Terry: Cocaine mostly in the eighties. Yeah. And it was just, it [00:18:00] was trippy. The dis disco was big. Yeah. And we were performing all the time. I mean, just back to back shows in all the tri-state area, New York, New Jersey. It was crazy. Carrie. Crazy good. Crazy bad. Crazy. Crazy. And in the best way. Crazy. In the best way.

Terry: Right? I'm telling in the best way. Like we miss the disco era. I know 

Kari: Disco. 

Terry: Disco is the best era ever. Like yeah. I can't believe how fabulous. And as singers too, we were professional singers and so we incorporated that in our comedy ad. Mm-hmm. And even now in our YouTube chat, off you go to our YouTube channel, you'll see we couldn't do a lot of singing on our channel because.

Terry: They would fine you if you even do. They would punish you if you sing a song. Right. They know and they, they find you a lot of money. You could get sued. So that was frustrating because we just, we couldn't sings for our child extremely. But, uh, we just loved. Singing and we [00:19:00] did a lot of singing, comedy. Yes.

Terry: We had our own bands, rock bands, and Wow. Seven bands. Trippy. It was trippy. We, we had seven rock bands and uh, we did backup. We had pop bands, experimental bands, alternative bands. It was, so, it was. So interesting, uh, a life. But then we decided we actually needed to move to Los Angeles, and that's when we started to do psychic work in war in earnest.

Terry: And, uh, it, it just started with a $10 ad in a, in a magazine. And, and people started to call us and we were like, people saw this $10 ad in some physical book show. And that's when it all started. And somebody saw us on NBC. They saw the ad. They said, are you really psychic? Yes. Are you really twins? Yes.

Terry: Mm-hmm. Can you do a TV spot with Sylvia Brown on NBC next week? And we said, you better believe it. Wow. And we were on TV that, oh yeah. She was 

Kari: big back in the, I'm not even sure was the [00:20:00] big, 

Terry: she was only game in town on tv. The first psychic, big psychic on tv. I not even sure she was 

Kari: really psychic though.

Kari: Well, we 

Terry: met 

Kari: her 

Terry: and we worked with her. 

Kari: I mean, may she rest in peace, but I'm, I never really, that's 

Terry: funny because we did work with her twice on TV and. Yeah. Diagnosed a tumor in somebody with her on stage. And it was this very show. It was a show called The Other Side. Yeah. And I remember going backstage, I had a screaming migraine, which is common for me.

Terry: Mm-hmm. But she came backstage. She said, who has the migraine? 

Kari: Oh. So she did know. 

Terry: She picked, picked up on it. And so I thought, huh, there's something here. There's 

Kari: something there. That's good to know. 

Terry: You know, and so she wrote the blurb for our book, for our book, psychic Intelligence. Oh, nice. So back in 2011 she wrote a little byline.

Terry: She, which is nice. Yes. And then she died not long after, but yeah, we felt honored and uh, it was, it [00:21:00] was scary to do all these predictions, medical diagnosis of people. Yeah. Life. You tv. Oh my God. It was always live. It's terrifying. Terrifying. And, but we tried not to let our nurse show, but we were absolutely scared to death.

Terry: And we worked with Deepak Chopra on that same show. I'm glad he was open to that. I think. Yes. I mean he, well he actually almost produced a show where we did a pilot with Deepak Chopra, believe it or not. Oh my gosh. That's And Grammar. And they were together. What was the name of that podcast? Gosh, it was called, uh.

Terry: Oh darn. Not state of mind. That was another, I forget. Yeah, I forget too. But it was so many. It might have been great. It would've been great. We told somebody on camera, you're gonna meet a guy named David. You're gonna marry him, but it's gonna be a while. And then LA 10 years later, she met a guy named David and married him.

Terry: Oh my goodness. That was on camera. I love it. Yeah, we get specific. We're not like just, ah, there's a potential for a guy. We're not [00:22:00] sure when we try to be very 

Kari: specific. Yeah. Yeah. Very specific. We try to be. Do you think that's why your soul incarnated here? And as twins, entertaining twins to make you more like magnetic for people to, to watch it.

Kari: Because I think if you're just like any other person, it doesn't have quite the effect. Right? But if you're these gorgeous e twins, it, it kind of, it, it brings up the entertainment factor, which. I, 

Terry: wow, that's very perceptive actually for you to say, you know what I do for a living? 

Kari: No, 

Terry: I think radar. It's so true because we always said, you know, that we feel.

Terry: That our being twins was kind of the thing that grabs people. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Usually it calls them them in, [00:23:00] and we use comedy and being twins. Mm-hmm. And we were the ones that dressed alike and Yeah. And so we sent up the fact that we're twins. We made fun of it. We made the joke before anybody else could say, oh, how are you?

Terry: How old are you? 12. You still dressed alike? And you know, and we say, we dress. We dress alike to confuse predators in the wild. That worked. That worked. And then suddenly there were a thousand twins trying to impersonate us. Right? Dressing a lot. But honestly, it's hard. It's a hard gig. You know what?

Terry: Psychic work is not easy. It's exhausting sometimes. It's so, for us, it's so draining. Do you find that Carrie? 

Kari: Yeah. That's one reason. Even though I have gotten good at psychic protection and all the things, because I am a hyper empath and I get so, um, same Yes. Connected. It, it just, and also because my work, I'm very similar to you in the sense that [00:24:00] like, come for the sunshine, stay for the shadow.

Kari: Like you're like, come for the entertainment, stay for the, the psychic enlightenment. Right. 

Terry: Come for the heaven. Stay for the Hell is what we, yeah. 

Kari: Yeah. So like, because I, I consider myself a shadow worker. I'm really, really good at reading into people's psyche. You are, you're, oh, wow. And, and so, because that's hard, because I have a.

Kari: What people have said is a sunny personality. People are like, oh, I'm gonna come for this reading and it's gonna be just a laugh riot. And I start out right away. They're like, you know, they were like in tears right away because I'd go right into their shadow. Yeah. Right. 

Terry: They, 

Kari: yeah. And so, and and you, 

Terry: yeah.

Terry: Right where it matters. 

Kari: Yeah. And it's, it was a lot. Um. 

Terry: It is a lot. But I 

Kari: think too, because my, um, how do I say it? Like my purpose is teaching. Mm-hmm. I, I always knew that I was meant to do that. I. 

Terry: You were [00:25:00] Yes. Born fabulous teacher, and you're so stunning and sweet. Oh, yeah. And people feel like they're just dipping into a warm jacuzzi when they're, oh, thank 

Kari: you.

Kari: But this show is about you, not me. 

Terry: So we're gonna, oh, well we wanna be to be about you too, because, yeah, because for us, it's like, you're a friend, you know? Yeah. We, we consider you a friend and, and that is really something we don't say, say very much. 

Kari: So do you think because you can't fix stupid, like the more psychic you are, like the less in your inner circle There is.

Terry: Yes. That's for sure. Absolutely. Because we had to really, really narrow our circle, which is a good thing. Well, we do come from a family of, um, alcoholics 

Linda: mm-hmm. 

Terry: And very, uh, very toxic family. Very dysfunctional. We put the fun and dysfunctional.

Terry: So the fun. [00:26:00] And the fun, yes. Yeah. But, uh, so it was very, very hard for us to climb our way out of that, as you know, with a trauma bond with anyone, but with, uh. You know, narcissistic parents. Yeah. It's so hard 'cause you have this trauma bond all your life and we're just now learning about how bad it was Yes.

Terry: And how to handle it. So what happens is when you have a narcissistic bond with anyone, mm-hmm. It's, it, you, you attract narcissists, right? Yeah. And empaths always attract 

Kari: narcissists. It's like you did 

Terry: have empaths too, always. It's a, it's a match. The guys we dated, we dated, you know, attracted alcoholics, abusers violence.

Terry: Mm-hmm. You name it, we. Wrote that book, baby. Mm. And so in fact, we wrote four books. Yeah, exactly. But no, I mean, the more we learn, we used to call, uh, narcissism Psychic Vampires, [00:27:00] and so we did a video about that before it be narcissism caught on, on TikTok. Yeah. Narcissism. 

Kari: Like everyone's a narcissist now.

Kari: Everybody, 

Terry: everybody, everybody should be now. Yes. And, and actually it's hard to diagnose narcissism, but. Uh, when you grow up with narcissists, you become an expert. You could see it coming a mile away, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

Kari: Well, no, no, actually you can't. That's why you wind up dating them, and, and you can after you get through it.

Kari: Right. Educated, right, 

Terry: right. And then you can see it after a while. I was like, I'm not even dating a guy who drinks at all. No. You know, that took me a while. But yeah, it's, it's like, uh, the trauma bond is such a big thing, and most people don't know. About it. They don't recognize it. Yeah. They don't know.

Terry: They grew up with it. They don't know they're married to it. Yeah. And so we, we incorporate a lot of that in our work when we do reading. Yes, we do. And that's the shadow side, right? Charact, 

Kari: yes. A 

Terry: lot of, a lot of 

Kari: psychic or [00:28:00] intuitive or healer people. Mm-hmm. Or animals, but they have traumatic. Childhoods, you know?

Kari: Oh, yes, yes. Abuse in their past. Yes. I wasn't abused, by the way, but I found my childhood tr I mean, my sister Will, who will be listening to this podcast, hi Sherry, um, who I, who I love dearly. She, um, you know, uh, I, I think my childhood was harder than theirs for different reasons, but because I am empathic and psychic, it, it just becomes.

Kari: Harder because you're not as understood necessarily. 

Terry: Oh yes. It's a very hard thing to be in this world. Yeah. This particular time period. 

Kari: So why did you two or one, why did you incarnate? Like why? Why did you do it? Why are you here? Good question. What were we thinking? 

Terry: Can.[00:29:00] 

Kari: I know when we get to the other side, do we wanna, can I speak to the manager? 

Terry: Yeah, take it up with management. I wanna, that's, yeah. Want answers. We come from a planet that no longer exists, I think because we blew it up. 

Kari: Is that one of those things where you're like, 

Terry: yeah, light the mat and 

Kari: throw it behind 

Terry: you?

Terry: Yeah, exactly. And so we, we know that, um, we, we do know that we had a very spiritual mission at quite a young age and. By the way, nobody in our family was very spiritual at all. Same years. They were actually atheist. You two. You two. Wow. Well, my, my 

Kari: sisters are now, but, um, different, you know, different than me.

Kari: Like I'm the most Woo. Yes. My sister, who's gonna be listening to this is woo. You know, woo ish, [00:30:00] woo adjacent. That's a good one. I like that. You know, but like, I, I'm definitely the most, but, but I grew up in a very secular New York family and, um, yes, yes. But I was always like, I wanted to be Moses as a child, and I was always like, I called myself God girl, and like.

Kari: I would dream about my spirit guides and with the classic records. And so I always knew I really, really, really wanted to be Moses. I super wanted to be that. 

Terry: Very fascinating and it's possible you are part of that over soul. Over soul overs soul maybe. I mean, I feel very an expression of the same age channel, the akasha.

Terry: So yeah, and I would read 

Kari: the Akashic record books with my sphere and so I always knew that I was. Those were my imaginary friends, but I knew they were, and I would always think about past lives and my past life and, you know, normal things. So, so I, but I, you know, you know, I, I, [00:31:00] I grew up like that without that in my family, but I wanted to be Moses because I wanted to do miracles.

Kari: And connect with God directly. That was like, and you're already doing that, and there you go. Right. You're doing it. 

Terry: I love that. We know our destiny 

Kari: when we're growing up, but I wasn't psychic. Like I didn't think I was psychic. Yeah. At first. Yeah. 

Terry: Well, uh, you people didn't really mention psychics around you, did they that much?

Terry: Well, no, 

Kari: because it's, it's different than you. My gifts are extremely different than you. I stay away from predictions. So I wanna know, 

Linda: most people do. 

Kari: Yeah, I, I don't have that gift either. Typically, like I could see probable futures based on where you are now by reading their psyche. But like, I wanna know, and I'm sure people listening wanna know what the prediction because people are afraid of knowing the future.

Terry: Oh, I've, I've, I've seen this before. Quite so true. It's amazing. People will even say, I want a reading about my past lives, which we [00:32:00] do. Uh, my current situation, career, family. Mm-hmm. But I don't want predictions. They don't want predictions. People say, I don't wanna, I don't wanna know. I'm too afraid of hearing the truth.

Terry: And we're like, okay, we don't have to type, but, but what's it like? Like we're getting stuff, but you don't wanna hear it, so whatever. Why do you 

Kari: think you have the gift of prediction and how is it helpful? That's a good question. 

Terry: Wow. Um, Terry, 

Kari: I think you took a deep 

Terry: breath with her. Yeah. Give it to the, give it 

Kari: to the one with the T name.

Kari: Here. Let her go first. 

Terry: Wow. I mean, I just feel like this was, uh, in Buddhism we call this the age of ma, so this is, uh, one of the darkest times in history. 

Kari: And I, and we've had dark times in history, 

Terry: dark times. We've had a lot. I think we've lived through all of them, but here we are. Yeah. And it's a very dark time, as we can see.

Terry: I think, uh, we might be at war with Iran mm-hmm. As of [00:33:00] today. Yeah. And so we're just finding this out. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And it's like, I think that because we were, we made our advent at such a dark time mm-hmm. When we, everyone needed lights. Mm-hmm. And, uh, leaders, spiritual leaders. Yes. I think that that's the main reason is that we are the wayshowers.

Terry: Mm-hmm. As you are light workers. Mm-hmm. Star seed, uh, and we are here to really shed light and help people. And I know it sounds hokey to say that, but I'm not apologizing for that. No, no. We need, I mean, we 

Kari: need everybody. We need people who aren't psychic to go into fires. Sometimes and like thank not, not overthink it.

Kari: Right. Like we need all of us. Right, 

Terry: right. Just jump in with both feet. Yeah. Uh, yeah. And, and and being twins carry, you're right. It was, uh, even more to do with the fact of the twins have a mysterious bond. Yeah. 

Linda: Most of them. 

Terry: That is very, that's why the re the [00:34:00] reason they came in, I dunno if you saw our Dolan twins on, on YouTube, the collab.

Terry: We, we did a collab with the Dolan twins who were very famous YouTuber. I don't really 

Kari: know them. 

Terry: They're so cute. If you did YouTube, you'd know we were on YouTube for about three or four years. And they're wonderful. They were very famous. They're not on it anymore. But uh, they also have that bond not to be psychic, but they came in together so much alike and do it loving the same things and doing the same crazy stuff in all their videos.

Terry: And we predicted a lot of stuff, most of the stuff that's happened to them in the past five years, but. They have also a mission, uh, more as entertainers, clowns. They did modeling, but they're, they're not psychic, but they have a, a bond that goes it, you know, back to archaic times. Right. And so ancient lives, ancient connection.

Terry: And that's what I think a lot of twins who have a spiritual mission. Yeah. Or a mission on. Camera, they come in with it from a pest [00:35:00] life. Well, also back to your original question, um, 

Kari: about 

Terry: predictions. You know, why did you make a, you know, advent here as twins? Yes. Yes. And I think because we're twins, like we had so many, uh, literally incurable diseases.

Terry: We had six incurable diseases including cancer all at the same time. Carrie and some of it can be managed. We overcame cancer, but the others. Not so much and we manage them. It was, but um, but anyway, that's I think why we've been told by other psychics, that's why we're twins. Mm-hmm. So we could handle not only all the illnesses that we had in the unspeakable chronic pain, anyone, those of you who have an autoimmune mm-hmm.

Terry: Disorder or migraines or depression. We had all of those. And so just know that there's hope for you. There is. And you know, but we had each other. Thank you, sweetie. Yeah. And we had each other for that, for the purpose of [00:36:00] support. Oh yeah. But also we were. Constantly bombarded by attacks and so we had to help each other through that.

Terry: I can't believe we survived. I can't believe we survived. We had one doctor that said, you're gonna die at 30 because you have gave us Mark. That's a prediction you, 

Kari: that's not a good prediction. 

Terry: It wasn't he He was and he was wrong. Yeah, he was wrong. But we had all the symptoms of Marfans syndrome when they don't live longer than 30.

Terry: Actually, I think Abraham Lincoln had that. We, yes, he did. But we, but we were, uh, saw 250, maybe 300, uh, doctors of various types, medical and, um, uh, homeopathy, homeopathic and naturopathic over, you know, many, many decades since the seventies. But this was back when. It wasn't like a cool hip thing and it was easy to find.

Terry: Yeah. We had to really go underground planes, two chiropractors, 'cause chiropractors didn't exist that much in [00:37:00] Philadelphia where we were, and that's where we're from. Mm-hmm. And, uh, but we, we just, long story short, we did, uh, have to go through the fire. We literally walked through the fire and without each other walking through that fire.

Terry: And the abuse and the judgment of, of, of viewers online, uh, of people spreading rumors and lies. About our work. We would not be alive today. 

Kari: Isn't that something? That's just, we wouldn't 

Terry: even be here and, '

Kari: cause we needed 

Terry: each other 

Kari: Wow. To do this work. That's beautiful. We wouldn't even started. And I, I, I think a lot of lightworkers.

Kari: We come off as like light. Right? But like the, the fire that we've gone through has been hard. 

Terry: Yes, yes, yes, yes. It is hard. It it, it's not easy. The psychic thing, it's like people say, oh, I wanna be psychic. And we're like. Are you? Yeah. Really? You try to talk about it a little bit? 

Kari: Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's like you come in, it's like doing [00:38:00] service.

Kari: Like, it's like you, you join the military, like on the other side, you're like, I'm enlisting. 

Terry: Yes, that's right. You're enlisting for that service may be the hardest. Yes. Thing that you could try to do in, and especially this country. Yes. This country. Yeah. But you know, psychics are arrested and jailed in other countries like Russia.

Terry: If you're psychic, you could be jailed for having a dream about somebody's murder. Yeah. You know, 

Kari: and they blame it on you. I'm not surprised. People are like, I've had, I've, I used to do all my videos like in front of. Not the nature in my house, but like outdoors. And, um, I was in front of like, um, a bay or something and, and someone, it was a supposed religious person and they're like, I hope she falls into that water and gets eaten by Vipers.

Kari: I'm like, I'm just trying to like, bring joy to your [00:39:00] life. Okay. But yeah. And they said that, yeah, they wrote in a, like I, the only harassment I've. Experience. Well, no, I've had some stalkers too, but, but um, have been mostly people who call themselves religious. 

Terry: Yes. So, yes, definitely. Yes. I was gonna say in that viper pit, you probably, you're a snake charmer, you could char the head and you would turn it off for good.

Terry: I 

Kari: wanna get back to this. Speaking of turning for good. So when, so you predicted. The terrorist attacks nine 11 and you predicted some other like 

Terry: Boston terror attacks to the, to we, we predicted the Boston terror attacks in four different radio shows the year it happened in 2012. That's just gave me like international shows.

Terry: Yeah. And nobody even contacted us to say what more do you see? Yeah. Nine 11. They didn't care. They didn't wanna know. And of course, the [00:40:00] terror attack happened and peoples all said psychics missed it. They all missed it. No, they didn't. We were like, so do you think 

Kari: that you have the gift of prediction to maybe change the course of things?

Kari: Why do you think Absolutely. Why do, why do think the gift of prediction exists? That's 

Terry: a good place. Well, I think it's actually the purpose of it is to predict, uh, to protect as a warning to protect people and warn people. And so that's what we have been doing. Mm-hmm. And, uh, like it's very hard to change.

Terry: Destiny and it's very hard to change your future. The only reason we believe that you can change the future, it's hard to do, but we believe you can because of our 40 year Buddhist practice and Buddhism, uh, has enabled us to change our destiny, and that's why. We believe it can be done 'cause we did it.

Terry: The future is fluid. Yeah. And it can be influenced. Not everything can be, [00:41:00] but we believe that you can change your destiny. Mm-hmm. If you really want to. Mm-hmm. Anybody can. We all have so much more power. Than we think we do. Mm-hmm. And we're here to, we're proving that with every day we keep living, uh, you know, we try to impart that to other people and say, gosh, you're suppressing your power.

Terry: You're so much stronger than you think you are. Look what you've survived. Yes. Explain these dragons. Give yourself credit and know that you are 

Kari: here for a reason. For a reason. And I feel like right now, because we are at a very dangerous. Precipice in history, we, we are at this point where we can go one way or the other.

Kari: Right. Do you have words about that? Absolutely. 

Terry: You always have choices. Yes. And it's like, uh, we have parallel universes that are running concurrently with ours. Mm-hmm. Like programs when 

Kari: I was a child, that's what I saw with those [00:42:00] parallel universes. 

Terry: Oh, interesting. Really? Oh, that's, I, I told you you should write a book and I wouldn't be surprised if you started work on it.

Kari: I. Had a few books in my head for a while, but, um, I think maybe next year will be a time I wanna write a book about next 

Linda: year. 

Kari: Intuition. Um, that's what I'm seeing. 

Terry: You're publishing it within a 

Kari: couple 

Terry: years. 

Kari: Interesting. Well, here you, here we saw it now folks, 

Terry: this is, 

Kari: I hear, heard it 

Linda: here first 

Kari: online prediction.

Kari: Um, yeah. Yeah. There's a few books in my, I mean, I've written children's books, but I, but I wanna write, um. Like, because I teach, right? So, but um, I mean like, we don't like being, like, even though you're like these glamorous models and entertainers and I did theater too, like to get me out of my pajamas and that kind of stuff these days takes a lot, it takes so 

Terry: much.

Kari: My 

Terry: post COVID [00:43:00] and then, 

Kari: and then like the, the, the, like it takes like. To stretch out of your comfort zone. And I do this because I want everyone to also do something to stretch themselves outta their comfort zones. 'cause that's what we need right now. 

Terry: Good point. Yes. Right. Good point. I'm so glad you said that actually too.

Terry: I am too. Because it's like lately I'm seeing. People who do kind of like coaching and they do a lot of videos and they'll be saying, you know, you, you know, if you don't feel, if you wanna reach a goal, you don't really have to do anything. I cannot stand that. I turned. Just think about it. If we let fear stop us, we would not have done anything, Harry, everything.

Terry: We're very anxious. We have anxiety. Oh my God, my 

Kari: stage fright was out of control. 

Terry: Me too. She was that way too. I still have that, and she really, we've tried [00:44:00] everything, but it's like if you let your anxiety or. Stage fright or fear stop you from taking action. You'll get nothing done. Yeah, we had, we said yes to everything.

Terry: Everything. And I know this is crazy to do, but we did say yes to everything. We accepted every job invitation to do every show we ever were invited to do practically everything. It even had British people fly he to LA and interview us. There and they weren't really nice people. Um, producers aren't nice people, but they, I, I have a friend who's a news 

Kari: producer.

Kari: She's lovely, but they can Oh well 

Terry: the ones that we were happy. The ones that they can be We're, some are lovely, some are, some are, yeah. The ones we worked with were high powered. Yeah. You can cut that out if you want, but, um, we just had to. Power through and be soldiers because the, the, the thing about the media is they will try to demonize the intuitive.

Kari: Yes. They'll say, we're gonna make a show about you so we can make you [00:45:00] look stupid. 

Terry: Yes. And they do it. Oh, we'll make you a centerpiece of the show. This is CBS, so they can trick you. And they said, oh, how nice. They're sending big people, big interviewers we're all excited and then they just, and behind the scenes they were trying to talk to our staff and convince them that tell, you can tell us they're really fing this, aren't they?

Terry: They aren't really doing this. After we, we give them readings. No, but the worst of it was that we would give them tapes of our predictions, actual tapes that we did on TV or radio. They would Franken edit them, take out all the predictions, and then say, boy, you really missed that. Oh my goodness. And they'd be like, no, you cut out the most important part of the predictions.

Terry: Well, what did you say? Well, this, and then they had to completely delete the prediction 'cause they'd rather not. Give us credit. Yeah. I actually think that's 

Kari: changing now because there have been some shows where they highlight, highlight, oh, tell me who, well, like Tyler Henry, he's, you [00:46:00] know, like he's, um, the Hollywood medium, like, and Lisa, like, there's some that they've made now where they're like, okay, this is legitimate and I appreciate that, that they've legitimized this.

Terry: Yeah, he does, he does, uh, in inter 

Kari: connection with. Experience brilliant as well. So like. I'm glad that they have that actually. They're starting to, they're starting to, he made a prediction. I saw, what was it? Um, Ricky Lake before the LA Fires, he said, your house is gonna catch on fire. 

Terry: So Steve, like, okay.

Terry: So we were on Ricky Lake show, a TV show in 20, and we told her that too. Did you? 

Kari: Yes. 

Terry: Yes. 

Kari: And we actually told her we share a birthday. She's September 21st. 

Terry: Oh wow. Yeah. Oh, is that right? On September 21st. Okay. 

Kari: Like the Earth, wind and Fire song, so yeah. 

Terry: Yeah. It's interesting. 

Kari: Right now we are at a pivot point in our collective future, so [00:47:00] yes.

Kari: How can people, like what do we need to do to take it in the right direction? As a society, 

Terry: as an individual 

Kari: for everyone listening in. Individuals. 

Terry: Okay. 

Kari: Yeah. For people listening, like who are like, gee, I have this in my heart, and I kind of feel like I wanna do something, but maybe, I don't know, maybe I'll just put my head in the sand and pretend everything's the same as it always was.

Kari: What? What do you, yeah. What do you have to say to people like that? Right. 

Terry: Well, I think it's important because everybody has a different life path. So maybe that's their path is to be, to, uh, have an easy life and, and to turn out the noise. And so I would say to anyone, yes, meditate. Meditate every day. Yes.

Terry: Connect with spirit. Develop your spiritual Yeah. Experience. Do something, uh, you know, don't wait till it feels comfortable to do it. 

Kari: Yes. Start 

Terry: before 

Kari: you're ready. [00:48:00] Right. 

Terry: Start before you're ready. Or even, you know, just do it. Do anything. Baby steps we tell people, go take a psychic class, uh, practice with your friends if you do tarot mm-hmm.

Terry: Or astrology neurology practice with a friend group or just one friend. Exactly. You wouldn't make fun of you. Uh, and so it's, it's all about learning to just jump in. Mm-hmm. We have a dear friend that we've known for many years. Who just, okay, we don't wanna say her name. Okay. Maybe she doesn't want me to say her name, but she's been, she's just such a seeking spirit and she, you know, let me learn about Edgar Casey's group.

Terry: Let me go here. Let me go, um, to the Hopi, where the Hopi tribe is, and do a sweat lodge and learn how to do what they're doing there. Uh, the tune into the psychic vibe, curious mind, and we love. That seeking mind and heart. It is so rare, really, when people jump in and get so immersed in it and she. [00:49:00] It's just about doing it for you.

Terry: 'cause it's, it's, it's interesting. It might be an experience even if it's a bad experience. And trust me, we've had plenty of those. Mm-hmm. We jumped in with both all four feet. And we are absolutely here to tell the tale. You will not be sorry. Start somewhere. Read a book. Uh, watch carrie's show. Get psyched.

Terry: Something like, and subscribe your heart and mind care. 

Kari: What? What 

Terry: did you say? 

Kari: I said like, and subscribe. I was joking. Like, and 

Terry: like and, and subscribe. Like, and subscribe. 

Kari: So, yes. Yes. So you see connecting with your intuition as essential to taking steps toward manifesting your purpose. Is that? 

Terry: Absolutely.

Terry: I think it's extremely important to connect with your psychic, your intuition. And it's funny, when we first started doing this work, people were writing us from all over the world and saying, nobody has intuition. I'm like, are you kidding? [00:50:00] Everybody has that. People don't believe in it. It's amazing intuition.

Terry: We're not talking about prediction. They just rejected it out of hand for no reason. And we're like, what? And so it's like. It's a, it's a very small, I'm sorry, a young soul, uh, planet, and it's a young soul country. So I think the important thing is if, if you're not gonna help other people develop your intuition so that you'll be safe, so that you won't be the one that goes to the World Trade Center before the.

Terry: Planes hit it. Yes. So that you are the one that doesn't go into that relationship with the narcissist and get beat up and abused. Yes. That you are not the one that gets hurt. Yes. That you can protect your children so they don't drown in a pool. Do it for somebody besides yourself. Yes. Just get some education about, well, we teach about the Fort Claire's.

Terry: I think you said you read Psychic Intelligence. I don't know if you did. Not yet. No. 

Kari: Okay. 

Terry: Book. [00:51:00] Which, the book. But you teach that in 

Kari: your book, psychic Intelligence. Yes, we do. We teach it back. How to be psychic, how to 

Terry: become a medium, how to do automatic writing. I love that. How we teach you everything. All the things.

Terry: All the things. All the things. So, 

Kari: and at the end of this show, we're gonna, um. Tell people how to get in touch with you, but this feels like a natural segue to a magic lesson that we like to share with everyone listening, how to connect with the divine or make their life more magical and mystical. So what is a magic lesson you'd like to share with everyone?

Kari: Okay, 

Terry: well, we always tell people don't wear life. Like we say, sorry, can you just edit that? We always, we always say, and I, we're keeping the bloopers. 

Kari: We're keeping it. No, you're not. You're not. Bloopers. Make life magical. That's part of, that's my magic lesson. Live the bloopers. Keep your bloopers. They're [00:52:00] part of the magic.

Kari: I 

Terry: like it. I I like it, but not for that one. Uh, we always say wear life like a loose garment, not like two pairs of Spanx.

Terry: That's, I rest my case, or three pairs of, and does. How does 

Kari: one do that? How does one wear life like a loose garment? 

Terry: Don't take things as personally when people do things that offend you. Try to be less offended. Yeah. That's really hard. Yeah. Uh, if you fail at something, just get back up again and keep fighting and never give up.

Terry: Never, never give up. That's how you do it. Yeah. And don't take it so hard. Try to be light, try to laugh in life. Try to make other people lighten up and laugh and, exactly. I just feel like. We're all meant to help each other in this world. And so I think that we're all, you [00:53:00] know, glimmers and we're like, you know, human spark, we're magical sparkles.

Terry: Mm-hmm. In this world. Yeah. It's like try to find something to be grateful for no matter what situation you are in. In Buddhism, they always. Say, um, just appreciate where you are right now despite your limitations. Find things to enjoy and appreciate about what you're going through. 'cause it will pass.

Terry: Yeah. And it will, if you are g in gratitude all the time, which is hard to be in this world, you know, just bring that lightness of being to whatever you're doing and whomever you're with. It might even be a difference of opinion with somebody who disagrees politically. Try to keep it light. And not get too much in the woods.

Terry: 'cause it's all just, that's all just ego. Anyway. The fighting is that back and forth like that. It's, it's not going to further the action at all. What we wanna do is be like beings in the world and model that for other people just as you do Carrie 

Kari: and you do. I love you [00:54:00] so much. So we love, I love that you, I, I love the two sets of hands.

Kari: It's so beautiful. You actually. Are doing readings still 

Terry: sometimes, is that correct? Yes, we do phone readings. Yes. Uh, we accept Zelle, which is, it only works if you either have a US bank account or you live in the US or you have access to, so you do 

Kari: readings only for us people. We need it most right now.

Kari: Lemme tell you. We do 

Terry: right now, I think. Yes. Just because of Zelle. And how, how do people 

Kari: get in touch with you? 

Terry: Well, they can go to our website, but anywhere in 

Kari: the world they can, they can find your website, 

Terry: Japan, and if they have a lot of people in Europe have US account. Yeah, for Zelle. Actually, I'll help you through, 

Kari: I'll be your tech guy as you call me, and I'll help you bodyguard.

Kari: I'll help you through other things, but that's okay. Other people in the world, but anyone in the world can get on your future scope and also you give readings. So what's, how can people [00:55:00] find you? 

Terry: Yes, go to psychic twins.com. Don't spell it physic everybody do. It's PS PS yc, HIC twins.com, and that's our website.

Terry: And go to our contact us page. And then there's all these opportunities to subscribe to our newsletter, which is free, uh, or to sign up for, um, a reading that. You can say in a few sentences what you expect, what you want in a reading, past lives, future health, uh, soulmate, romance, uh, career, whatever. Um, yeah, and just, you can specify that, but she have a, and we can send a, an answer back.

Terry: It's always us. Nobody responds for us. We have a summer special right now, Carrie, so your listeners can, uh, just 

Kari: mention that. Mm-hmm. That's wonderful. I actually had a reading with you right before and I was like a little bit scared to start this podcast and I think it was Linda that said, Carrie, you [00:56:00] need to, you need to show people another side of you.

Kari: Like Yes. And that was one of the reasons I started this because when I do my forecast, there's like not a lot of space really for like. The swearing Sailor Bronx Chick that I am.

Kari: So that's one of the reasons I. Have this podcast. Ooh. I think that's so nice. Thank 

Terry: you sweetie. We knew you would be successful. I'm so happy. You said share your story that you started is of of humor. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Thank And you're so kind. It 

Kari: looks like my, my, we're reconnecting here so we're, it's like contact on the other side.

Kari: So this is a good segue 'cause I'm not sure that our computer's still recording, but, um, okay. Alright. I thank you so much and everyone go to psych twins.com. It's been a job and I love you both. Thank you so much. Love [00:57:00] you.