The Brotherly Bet

Neck Curtains, Loose Stools, And Surprisingly Smart NFL Bets

• John Townley • Season 2 • Episode 14

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The browser crashed, the mics warmed up, and the hot sheet finally loaded—perfect conditions for a Week 12 that refuses to sit still. We shake off the hiatus with a clear plan: fewer fragile moneyline stacks, more targeted edges built on roles, injuries, and how teams actually move the ball when it matters.

We start by scanning the board where quarterback health quietly rewires every spread and total. The Ravens over the Jets points to functional offense over chaos, the Lions at home highlight how injuries re-route targets to the backs and slots, and the Chiefs in Arrowhead remind us that structure and improvisation still live in Patrick Mahomes’ pocket. We talk travel spots, domes versus cold, pass rush pressure, and why the best number isn’t always tied to the “better” team—it’s tied to the cleaner path.

Then we build a receivers‑only brotherly bet designed to cash without needing a miracle drive: Zay Flowers for steady volume while Lamar trims scrambles, Jahmyr Gibbs for catch‑and‑go yardage with a tight end down, and JSN on an alt line that respects his trend of reliable targets. It’s a smarter sweat than the usual “safe favorites” parlay that dies on Thursday and ruins your Sunday.

At the heart of it all sits Bears vs Steelers, a split‑loyalty, high‑tension matchup likely decided by turnovers and the final two minutes. We lay out what swings it—protection on obvious passing downs, short‑field gifts, and who blinks on fourth‑and‑manageable—without pretending we can script every bounce. If you love the NFL’s messy middle, this one’s your episode: practical angles, real numbers, and a prop slip you can ride with confidence.

If this breakdown hits home, follow the show, share it with a friend who bets Sundays, and drop your lock or upset in the comments. Your pick riding with ours, or fading it?

SPEAKER_02:

Alright, take number two, welcome back to episode thirteen. Great now I have to stay on this. It's no Google Chrome. Like I I can't like look at the tracker and it's like, hey, here's the screen. Fucking safari. Yeah. Can I continue? Let me just real quick.

SPEAKER_04:

I gotta log back into the fucking thing. Folks, if you're like us, you've you've run into some technical difficulties and we're pushing through. We're on. We're buzzing. He's mad. It's good to be back, Grant. It's good to see you. We've been on a little bit of a hiatus because of life and work, but hey. Until we start getting paid for these things, I'm okay with it.

SPEAKER_02:

Even though. Yeah. And what else? What else?

SPEAKER_00:

Whole Foods if you want to endorse us, we're ready to go. We'll also take Walmart, Arby's, Goodwill, AutoZone, Bucky's, Sit Go, 7 Eleven. You can't. Uh local fire stations. Any Girl Scout cookies. We'll take you all. It is. Even Naked.

SPEAKER_04:

It is amusing though because the select few listeners that we do have when we don't record. They do message me, or when they see me, they're like, hey, when's the next episode coming out? Or I'm like, hey man, it's life. It's life. We're trying. We're trying. Um what do we miss? Um week 10. My wife came on the pod and hit a parlay. How are you doing? Amy, shout out to you. Great job. She picked the Bears. Yeah, she picked the Bears, the Seahawks, and the Lions all on the money line. And she cashed big. We cashed big.

SPEAKER_00:

Her name was Yima.

SPEAKER_04:

And then week 11, we took a little bit of a bye because, like I said, life and life. And we're back week 12. And we're going to get after it. Week 12. I'm a little sour that Tom's not here because this is a big week for us.

SPEAKER_02:

Which we will get to. It's a big week for us. Um I already did that. I already did that. Um but yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I got it trimmed last week. Haircut week. We had to take, well, Livy's birthday. And then so we took pictures for that.

SPEAKER_00:

When did you get it trimmed?

SPEAKER_04:

Um then we had to take a picture for my in-laws' Christmas cars. I was like, all right, two birds. And then it was like, I'm probably not gonna get a haircut for another six months.

SPEAKER_02:

So why not now? Um yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, they had to they had to muzzle me down a little bit because I didn't and I told her, I was like, did they have to put a leash around your trimmed down? Put it at a time. And I was like, if you can leave a little bit of the neck curtain. And she's like looking at me. I was like, leave a little bit of the flop back there.

SPEAKER_02:

And she's like, the flop? Oh, you never heard that? The neck curtains? The neck curtain. The what?

SPEAKER_04:

You know the neck curtain. Um and she took the whole curtain. So that is the gross fine term I've ever heard in my life. The good thing is I got a haircut and the Steelers one and the Bears one. So maybe this is just what we needed to turn this season around.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I don't know. I can't remember her name.

SPEAKER_00:

You're gonna be getting back on the phone. Sandra, I'm sorry I didn't mean that about your family.

SPEAKER_04:

Let's just get right into it. There's short and sweet. Um I can't really give you the the picks from last week because we didn't do any, but we're gonna give you the picks this week. That way we have some material for next week.

SPEAKER_02:

I guess I can ask Grant, how was um Halloween with the kids? Well, I mean, not on here. So the people need to know. I know, so the have we not talked since Halloween?

SPEAKER_04:

So you weren't clearly. You're right, we haven't done one.

SPEAKER_00:

Big summer blowout. Knocking on doors. So we had the frozen cast.

SPEAKER_03:

Hello, family.

SPEAKER_02:

I said a supply and demand.

SPEAKER_00:

Yohoo! Hello, big summer blowout. Hello, family. This is from uh a vintage department.

SPEAKER_03:

45. Hello, family. Hello, woohoo! What did you call me? So yeah. Did you give me a couple of things?

SPEAKER_04:

It was good. I was kind of like Christoph. Anna in the wagon.

SPEAKER_02:

Being chased by wolves that wanted candy. Yeah. Yeah. I put my sunglasses on him for about three seconds. How long and then he's got a big thing.

SPEAKER_04:

How long did it last? He'd be good Sven. That's good. It was good weather for it though, too. But we didn't. It was like chilly, not window. But it was good. It was like good October weather.

SPEAKER_02:

They lasted a while. Actually. It was. Yep. It was good.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know how many houses we went to, but the bag was pretty full. We still have a lot left out. They ate all the gummy candy within a week. It's insane. But it's also like the candy that you have. And then I feel like like the last trick-or-treaters that you get to your house, you're like forcing more, literally, like more than natural. You're like, take it. Take this. You know. You're giving it away. But it's always good. And next up, we got Thanksgiving right around the corner, just like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Just like that. And then it's all downhill from there. Yeah. And then Christmas.

SPEAKER_04:

All right. Let's get right into it. Let's get into the big script. We're gonna leave the big game for last because Until golf starts. That's what we do.

SPEAKER_02:

Um were you able to pull up your sheet that we were having technical difficulties with at the beginning? All right. Um let's roll through them.

SPEAKER_04:

See if I get this right. Uh we're gonna take the Bills over the Texans. They're playing in Houston. Houston is plus six on the spread, plus two thirty-five on the money line.

SPEAKER_02:

Take the Bills. Yeah. Um I mean they got a they got a good defense.

SPEAKER_04:

They got a good defense, but I I just don't know I don't know if you're gonna be able to match them offensively as much with your backup and CJ Stroud is still in concussion protocol. And we say this with such confidence, knowing how much of a coin flip this NFL season has been.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, no, you're not going to. It's um So take it with a grain of salt. Yeah, it's pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_04:

Um Colts and Chiefs. If anyone is over minus three and a half on the spread for plus one hundred, minus one eighty-five on the money line in Arrowhead.

SPEAKER_02:

Backing Mahomes.

SPEAKER_00:

It's also a coin flipper, right? It's it's one of those games if if you like the color blue instead of red.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, I wouldn't pick blue, even though blue is my favorite color, right? Yeah. Go with Mahomes. Did you see? Because Dan Jones looks like runs a bowling alley on the weekends. Did you see the game overseas? When he had a bloody microphone, two weeks of TJI Fridays smiling at me.

SPEAKER_00:

He's like, it's not a bowling animal.

SPEAKER_04:

Which one's no, he looked like the guy from Oh oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah. I was like, did he just get done eating like he looked like Aceven? Sure. I I saw a lot of Billy Madison when nature called the lipstick when he's eaten the animal.

SPEAKER_04:

Do you remember that? That's uh everyone catching up. But he also looked like the other guy. Like Daniel Jones. Like his whole it was just in his teeth. Oh, yeah, the creepy guy with the lipstick. That was so funny. And like beets. That's so funny. And he got hit. Yeah. Yeah. He had like red wine and thick teeth. So like what did he actually like do? It was a good look though. It was a good look. Right.

SPEAKER_03:

It's like Dwight Schroot eating beets.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you think like he got in the hobby? Dude, you got something on your face. He's like, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_04:

I swear. You look disgusting.

SPEAKER_00:

You're like, you're really not on the bottom. Can we get something something?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Could we get the tent? This is like what the tent is for. Don't rock.

SPEAKER_04:

Your palms before you throw this fucking pig skin. Right. Don't throw the ball at me. I don't want blood on the ball. Vikings. We got the Vikings, Packers, in Green Bay. Green Bay's minus six and a half on the spread. Don't trust JJ, number nine, demon boy, whatever he calls himself, taking the Packers.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, I mean, I'd love the Vikings to pull it out for the Bears, but it's also in the cold. Vikings playing a dome.

SPEAKER_02:

I hope they do, but yeah. Um, yeah. For the pod.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Maybe not. I hope they do. Patriots, Bengals. Joe Burrow is coming back, but not this week. Patriots going to Cincinnati. Patriots minus seven on the spread. Take the Patriots. I would take the Patriots and maybe the spread. I would maybe tease it down a smidge, but I mean, Bengals are Swiss cheese. Jamar Chase is suspended for spitting on Jalen Ramsey last game. Um what's with all these grown men?

SPEAKER_02:

Just like, dude. I never like when I was growing up.

SPEAKER_04:

And this was like it doesn't like come on. Talking everything. Saying obnoxious things. I'm cool with that. That's fine. Part of the game. Some hand fight, sure, dude. You're gonna it's football. But then like you spit on them. I'm like, dude.

SPEAKER_02:

That's just pathetic, man. It's just pathetic. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

You're gonna do it, like shoot a booger at him. And it's just like a quit, like, quick like spritz. It's like yeah, it's not like Lemmy. But it's like all these, and like all these players are wearing visors. Right. Let's so like even if you're trying to hit him anywhere and let's watch him like Spider-Man. But I'm like, dude, it's you're pathetic, man. And then after the game, he's like, I didn't spit on anybody, and there was just like all this footage. Right. Everyone's got a camera. This this game that you're playing is being filmed from every angle on the field. If there's a scuffle, do you not think that the guys are paid to zoom in on you?

SPEAKER_02:

Mind boggling.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's why I like hockey. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. 100%.

SPEAKER_04:

You think John McVeigh knows his push-ups before he comes out of here? Because he knows cameras are gonna be right. Like 1,000%. What do you think he's doing at halftime? You think he's knocking to his team? No, dude. He's hitting the bicep girls. I sure, I sure hope so. I I would too.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

He's doing a Richard Simmons tape in between takes. He's doing a motivational thing with like all right, moving to the giant ass rubber bands like the Giants going to Detroit to play the Lions. Lions minus 10 on the spread, minus 550 on the money line. It's kind of a gross money line. Um Jackson Dart on his way back to play. Still don't take the Giants pushing the Lions through. Um yeah, I don't. I know Sam Laporte is down. I think they threw him on IR, which I mean, it doesn't matter. They have so many other weapons that they can use. So um they have one of the best one-two punches in for running backs in the league.

SPEAKER_02:

I think they'll be okay. Um Lions moving on.

SPEAKER_04:

Jets to Baltimore, minus 13 and a half for the Ravens, which I mean, that's pretty tasty against the Jets team that they just benched Justin Fields. Um I know they're starting Tyro Taylor. Uh still take the since we're just talking who wins, we're gonna take the Ravens. I would love, love, love to see an upset here. But um they snuck by last yeah, they they snuck by last week against the Browns, but Shador Sanders had his debut and went four for twelve. I don't think it's happening this week. I don't think he.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, their their line just isn't good. He's gonna light it up within like a second and a half. Like not even. It was just collapsing on the biggest. So it was a flamethrower to watch.

SPEAKER_02:

Um but he completed his first pass, so good for him. Even if even if you're Yeah. But oh, I couldn't now.

SPEAKER_04:

I would just be handing the ball off. Good for my hand for the ball.

SPEAKER_00:

You and me could do a shovel pass to Jamar Gibbs or whoever it is that's a running back.

SPEAKER_02:

There you go. There you go. Or yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Mark it for two yards.

SPEAKER_00:

I would I wouldn't hand it off until the guy gets in front of me so that board pass and I get one pass.

SPEAKER_04:

He's on the stat sheet. Yeah. Just I'd be in the blue tape. Did the check cash?

unknown:

Um.

SPEAKER_00:

But then it'd be like, oh, take me out. This is gross.

SPEAKER_04:

Well. Oh. Yeah. Side note, we we talked about um Jamar Chase being spending and be doing Chase like the deposit broken because I was looking up stuff after the game. He is missing out on roughly five hundred thousand dollars. Because he's he's missing out on five hundred thousand dollars. His paycheck or his game check is like four forty something, like four forty-eight, four forty-four. So every time he plays, every week, he gets almost a half a million dollars signed to, you know, in his name. But then he has like a he has like a bonus part of his check too, which is like fifty-two or fifty-three thousand. So I turned to Aim. I'm like, this guy's gonna miss on half a million dollars because he spent on somebody. Dude, what are you doing? I almost feel like the NFL, when this, when this stupid petty stuff happens, the NFL should be like, okay, you're suspended pay, but you can play. And then let the player decide, are you gonna play this week for free? Or are you gonna sit out? Like you can just kind of put and you can kind of see what kind of player they are. You know. But I'm like, man, I think that'd be worse. Be like, all right, well, you have to play, but we're not gonna pay you. So you're paying, you're playing for free, so you miss out on 500k.

SPEAKER_02:

That's insane. Right. It it's kind of like it's like they're disciplining a toddler.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like, no fun for two weeks. And like, if that were me, and you let okay, let's say you get a little heated, you spit on a guy. 500 grand in a game, you kidding? I just got my whistling teeth pulled. Going over to their locker room, I have a like holding a press conference. Like, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to. I I'm so sorry. You want me to wash your car, clean your shoes? I'm so you're spit on me. I mean, if yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And I understand some of these guys aren't married men. I don't know what March's status is. I kind of sound like in a husband, right? So, like, this is your livelihood. And obviously, you're well off. So if if you're the his the money he's making throughout the years, it's okay, right? But like you get home, can you imagine like your wife your wife is just staring at you?

SPEAKER_02:

Like, really? Really? Imagine you walk in the door. No.

SPEAKER_04:

Right?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Imagine you walk in the door. It was it's Amy looked at the man. Are we gonna talk about what you just did? You embarrassed our family, and you'd be like, it wasn't it wasn't me, I wasn't spitting. They're like, We saw you, and you're like, just like uh it's insane. All right. And again, you'd be like I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't mean to.

SPEAKER_04:

We're gonna skip over a game. We'll go to that one against family. Seahawks, Titans in Tennessee. Seahawks are favored, minus 13 and a half on the spread. I mean, they had a rough game last week against the Rams. Uh Darnold threw Darnold was given the ball away. I think this is yeah, yeah. I think this is a uh a perfect time for them to get right back in, which will tie into our brotherly pet. Um take the Seahawks. For free. Yeah. Shoot. Maybe. I mean, two scores is a lot. I hate doing that with betting, but they're playing the Titans. Titans play a little bit better at home. But Seattle's Seattle's defense is solid. Their offense is moving the ball. I mean, 13 and a half points feels fine. Yeah. I just hate like putting them in a slip and like, all right, I need them to win by 14. Like it's insane. Yeah. All right. Uh I think they could do it. Yeah. Three o'clock games, midday games. Jaguars are going to the Cardinals out in Arizona. Right. Jags are minus three on the spread. Duval figuring it out. I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_02:

Arizona's got some tight coverage in the secondary. I'm gonna roll with the Jags. Tight. Got some tight coverage in the secondary.

SPEAKER_04:

Are those Hanes? Hanes, if you're listening to this, good underwear.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, what does that even mean?

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe it's got some tight coverage. Hashtag meandes. Um, we're gonna take the Jaguars here. Hot football team, they just torched the hashtag Jordan.

SPEAKER_02:

The Chargers in, I think in LA. Did they beat them in LA? Oh no, it was in it was in Jacksonville.

SPEAKER_04:

Um I mean, I I think it was they travel well. They travel well. All right, we got a coin flip here.

SPEAKER_00:

It felt like a home game for the game.

SPEAKER_04:

Atlanta's going over to New Orleans. Atlanta's plus one and a half on the spread, plus one oh five on the money line. Take the Falcons. Kirky boy Kirk Cousins coming to you hot. Old man, this is your game.

SPEAKER_02:

Time to shine. Let's go. Yeah, I like him. So moving on.

SPEAKER_04:

Um Eagles traveling to the Cowboys. Good old Jerry Jones world. Eagles are minus three on the spread. Take the Eagles. Um just had a I mean, they just worked the Lions, they held them to under 10 points. Uh Dallas. Uh, I feel like it is. Um, they put a lot of pressure on Jared Goff, he looked very uncomfortable. I think St. Brown only had two. Which is no he was targeted a bunch, um, but she tells you what they were doing with the with their front.

SPEAKER_02:

So Cowboys are looking better, but uh you know Yeah. Yeah, you need the cream.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean they just played the Raiders, they looked good against the Raiders.

SPEAKER_00:

I think the Eagles are gonna overwhelm more than the other. I don't know. But it's just gonna be all over.

SPEAKER_02:

We're moving on. Yeah. Next, that's like saying you look goodly black and yellow, right? Like do we call it yellow or gold? I bet you it'd be y I bet you it'd be yellow. But if you ask Tom.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Tom. Yeah, it doesn't work.

SPEAKER_01:

You better get it right.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Um Alright, we got the Buccaneers. Tampa Bay going all the way to the West Coast.

SPEAKER_00:

Bike and gold, bike and gold.

SPEAKER_04:

Doesn't have the same rings. Two of my guys right here, so this is tough. I mean, you got Maddie Veneer Stafford against Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Against Baker. I think you take the Rams. Maddie Whiteteeth.

SPEAKER_04:

I yeah, I don't think it's gonna be against the Rams. Um I feel like Baker hasn't won in a little while.

SPEAKER_00:

I think he does need a little redemption figuring out. I don't know if it's gonna be this week.

SPEAKER_04:

And our last one, or our second to last one. Carolina Panthers also traveling all over the West Coast, San Francisco, 49ers, Niners are minus seven on the spread.

SPEAKER_02:

Carolina's playing good football. Yeah, I well better than most. I mean better than what they've done.

SPEAKER_04:

They they're they keep winning. They're just behind the bucks.

SPEAKER_02:

I see I Bryce Young, I just don't have to be a little bit more. Six and five, Vincent. Yeah, but sometimes the loose stools are the most relieving.

SPEAKER_04:

I know, but it just feels like he's been as consistent as a loose stool. You know what I mean? Just you need a little fiber. I was talking about stool as in sometimes the loose stools just need a little screw. Wait, I was talking about bar stools. What were you talking about? Yeah. Um Brocky's back. Um it's just oh man. I gotta go with the Niners. You still got George Kittle. We're back. You still got CMC. Their defense is still they have so many injuries, but they're still figuring it out. They got a good head coach. It's at home. Niners. I don't I don't know if they'll win by over seven. I mean, that's it feels like a lot with the Panthers playing as good as they are, but this is a weird NFL year, so it feels like a lot. I don't know. I don't see that. Um before we get into our last selection, I'm gonna give you the brotherly bet first. Because we might debate. Um, so we're gonna give you the brotherly bet first. It's gonna be an all-receiving bet. We're looking for receiving yards here. We're taking Zay Flowers. Um, who do the Ravens play again?

SPEAKER_02:

The Jets. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Um I don't think Lamar is gonna be looking to run as much as he is with his hamstring injury. Now he's like now he's like nursing an ankle injury. So I'm looking at Flowers at over 50 receiving yards. Okay. We're moving to Detroit, where we're gonna take Jamar Gibbs for 30 plus receiving yards, um, which is essentially one catch for him sometimes. They lost Sam Laporta. Um, I think I think he might, as Jared Goff, considering his last game, you might be looking it into some check downs to get to get feel-good moments, right? To like get yourself into the game. And like I said, this is just a dummy talk, and so who knows? Um, and then I'm taking JSN, Seattle Seahawks. This guy is an absolute unit. Um, I'll pull up his stats really quick before I give you what I'm thinking in terms of his yardage. He's playing the Titans. Okay. His last five, two, four, his last five games, okay, starting from like five, four, and then the last number will be his last game. 162, 123, 129, 93, and 105. Those are his past five games. He gets a lot of targets. Okay, his his receptions for his over and under are seven and a half. So if you take the over, he's got to get at least eight receptions. The dude's getting a lot of targets, and when they throw him the ball, he catches it. Um, so I kind of went low ball ish. So if you're flirting with his receiving yards over and under, it's at ninety four and a half. I I dropped it down to 80. 80 sitting at minus 210, which is kind of in the safer spot. I mean, safer spot would be like 60 at minus 550, but this is a gambling. Yeah, this is a this is a gambling podcast here. We're gonna gamble. Yeah. Um, so we're taking fifty for flowers, thirty for Gibbs, and eighty for J. Put them all together, plus trying something new. Trying something new. And I liked how we were picking all money lines, but like the games that are for sure in my head, like I'd pick the bills for sure, that's minus 290, but the episode won't get out, so I don't want to put out a moneyline bet with the bills in there, and then people are like listening to it on Friday or Saturday per se, and and that bet's already dead for them. Um, and some of the ones that I'm comfortable with, I'm like, I really don't want to bet the Packers. The Patriots are minus 380. A lot of like the favorites that we like, like you click three of them and you're still in a negative.

SPEAKER_02:

So we're taking a shot here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I also think they're good because like let's versus like just doing money lines, you could be just shot. Yeah, right. Like your team is getting blown out, and you're like, this sucks. It's not fun as well. 27 and a half is like his ultra. I'm like, you know what?

SPEAKER_04:

They're playing the Giants, it just makes it a little more interesting. They've looked here and there, but they give up some yardage to the back. That's fine. I mean, the Jets. I mean, I I feel like every year I'm saying the Jets are the Jets, which not much. Uh Zay Flowers is his over and under is 62 and a half. So drop that down a little bit. So we kind of gained some some plus with Gibbs, but that's what we're gonna roll with.

SPEAKER_02:

All right. Should we get to the should we get to the business here? Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

Sound good? I'm pointing to my imaginary friend over here. Is that good, Tom? Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

I like it.

SPEAKER_04:

Who was he? Kermit? I was gonna say Kermit. Um you know, at the beginning of this beginning of the season, we've been waiting for week twelve. Um just because the Steelers are playing the Bears.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, nice. They're playing nice.

SPEAKER_04:

Um that was good. It's the end of the first trimester. That was good. Steelers play the Bears. Um I grew up a Chicago fan. Um, I have a really good relationship with Tom. Bags. So being a Steelers fan with him and and doing that has been eventful, fun. Um it's a weird game because all my Bear Bears friends who like when the Bears win, like, dude, we we shoot it up, right? We're like this and that. Like, I'm still one of the boys, right? But this happened like two or three, I think it was like three years ago, when they were like, well, Bears are gonna beat the Steelers. I'm like, okay. And they're like, Well, you're a Steelers fan. I'm like, I'm also a Bears fan. They're like making this stupid face. Um I don't know. It it's it's a weird, it's a weird situation to be in because you're like, I don't know. I know Tom wants the Steelers to win. That that team holds up holds a place in his heart. Um I know Joey, our older brother-in-law, he's a big Bears fan, is a Steelers fan, not a Rodgers fan. So I think he'd be okay if Rodgers doesn't play or if Rogers plays, Rogers just falls apart. Um so I don't know. He's got a broken or he's got a fractured bone in his wrist.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

That happened last game. Wait, is he not gonna play? So he is pushing to play, but everything that I'm reading is they need to make sure he can uh I forgot about that. What is it? He can take a snap, and then he can protect him.

SPEAKER_02:

They keep saying he can protect himself.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, he can't even do that now without a broken hand. It's like put the guy in the infirmary and Harry Potter at Hogwarts, get the wand out, let's do a little bit of fixing, send him out there, get bears.

SPEAKER_04:

Both defenses thrive on turnovers, right? They're defense creating turnovers. So whatever team wins in that margin is going to win. That's that sounds so cliche. Yes. Um, but they both thrive on taking the ball away. But I think it's gonna come down, it'll be in the fourth quarter. Steelers will drive, they will score whichever way to go up one or two, and then the Bears will get the ball with under two minutes and will have to drive to score. Now, will they win? I don't know. Will the Steelers win? I don't know. Um, but I think it's gonna be because the Bears season has been that all year round, and the Steelers seasons for the past 10 years have been that. So I don't want to say the Steelers are gonna win and then the Bears win. I don't want to say the Bears are gonna win and then the Steelers win.

SPEAKER_02:

I I can't do that either.

SPEAKER_04:

I can't do that either. Um come on, just just grow a little hair on your chest. Um who if Rogers plays like he has the past two weeks, the Bears won. The four they're away from the game. I think if Rogers plays how he played the first four or five games of the season, I think the Steelers win. Um that's the crazy part. I every week you don't know what team you're getting.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, they win.

SPEAKER_04:

Like we don't yeah. It but I feel like at least with the Bears, like they're down ten. Right. And their offense is more consistent in terms of I feel like he's turning the ball over less. Um their offense is more consistent, I would say. But then like the last like four minutes, like everything gets figured out. Everything gets ironed out.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

So I I don't know. I I don't know. Who who do I think's gonna win? It depends who shows up.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna have you pick it for the pod because I can't do it. Yeah. I don't know. If if Mason if Mason Rudolph plays the Bears win?

SPEAKER_04:

I I I don't know, but Mason Rudolph his past four starts, he's four and oh.

SPEAKER_02:

So I don't I don't know. Yeah, but you'll be surprised.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he knows the system. I mean it it's at Soldier Field, so there's gonna be a little less yellow towels around. It's a it's a lose-lose for me because if the Bears Bears win, Tom is gonna text me and say Shithead didn't have any faith. And then if the Steelers win, he's gonna he's gonna go the opposite way and go, ha! He's probably gonna say something a little more raunchy than that. But I like Tom.

SPEAKER_02:

But I will say I I do I'm not a huge Caleb Williams fan. Really. I'm a big Ben Johnson fan. I think he's nuts.

SPEAKER_00:

I love him. He's a he's nuts. Love him. Detailed everything, right? Holds people accountable, yells at him, probably throws a couple chairs, probably hits a couple people. I love it. I don't think the Steelers defense is gonna show up as consistently as the Bears defense will. Because the Steelers will show up and they'll give up 35 points, or they'll give up 15 points.

SPEAKER_02:

But the 15 points is so rare.

SPEAKER_04:

So I do think it's gonna be closer. But I do think the Bears are gonna come out on top. I text it. Unfortunately. I text it.

SPEAKER_00:

In a in a perfect world, is it in a perfect I'm gonna be on vacation on Sunday, so I won't be able to answer the text.

SPEAKER_04:

The Steelers win in a perfect world. And the Vikings win. That way, because we know the Ravens are gonna win.

unknown:

Right?

SPEAKER_04:

So in a perfect world, the Packers drop down a little bit, and they stay the Bears still hold their lead, and the Steelers still have their one-game lead. So, like in a perfect world, Vikings turn one over and and the Steelers win. Like that way, at least everyone's kind of happy in terms of where the where they sit the standings.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, but that's that's that's more than the Bears can also win and the Ravens can lose.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Or in a perfect world, that's also a perfect world, you know. And the Ravens lose. The Vikings win, our perfect world, and the Giants win.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. And Jackson Dart's mom visits every stadium.

SPEAKER_04:

Alright, so Tom, you heard her first year on the pod. Grant chose the Bears, and I think I didn't answer the question.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. Um It's fine. It's fine.

SPEAKER_04:

I just want like a folded like the cheapest suit you've ever seen. An entertaining game, but they're all in because both teams drive in. So it'll just be a high blood pressure game.

SPEAKER_00:

Everyone would be happy.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. It'll be or it'll be the total opposite, and no one will turn the ball over, and you're like, Oh yeah. They're gonna give up the ball.

SPEAKER_02:

There's gonna be a lot of turnovers. Potentially. Yeah, that's also very possible. Right. And yeah, everyone's just gonna run it a thousand times.

SPEAKER_04:

Alright, you got anything? Right.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't know we were at the dog track watching the Greyhounds today, folks.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Greyhounds, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

He was like Jesse White at the Olympics.

SPEAKER_04:

Nailed it. Alright. I hear my uh I hear my my upstairs so I should really go. Um but it's great to see you. Thanks for coming on the pod. Episode 13. All right, good. Hopefully we have a uh a bet hit. So in a perfect world, everyone wins and our bet hits.

SPEAKER_02:

So how about that? Good to see you. How about that?

unknown:

How about that?

SPEAKER_02:

All right. We're your wholesome, Jack. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Thanks for tuning in.