Lieutenant Maness Wants the Community to be Safe

We sit down with Lieutenant Maness to talk about his move into Special Operations and what it takes to run big community moments while still keeping day-to-day public safety moving. We also get blunt, practical guidance for parents on e-bikes versus e-motorcycles and how to plan for Allen USA Celebration parking and entry rules. 
• his transition from patrol to leading Special Operations units 
• what he oversees: traffic, SROs, animal shelter, boxing gym support 
• Golden Gloves tournament scale, setup, and staffing realities 
• Allen USA Celebration changes, youth entry rule, and why it matters 
• parking at Allen High School, shuttle strategy, and rider tips 
• e-bike vs e-motorcycle definitions, safety risks, and legal requirements 
• outreach through junior police academy and community education 
• what PIO work looks like during major incidents and why a team matters 
If you'd like to learn more about special events coming up or the laws on e motorcycles versus e bicycles check us out on our website allenpolice.org and make sure to like and subscribe and if you have any comments leave them down below

Transcript

Welcome And Meet Lieutenant Maness

Officer Sam Rippamonti 0:01

Welcome back to another episode of Allen Police Behind the Badge. We're your hosts, Officer Sam Rippamani and Alexis Birmingham.

Alexus Birmingham 0:08

And today our special guest is Lieutenant Maynes. Thank you for joining us.

Lieutenant Maness 0:12

Absolutely. I'm excited to be here. Thanks for coming on.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 0:14

It's been hard to kind of get you on because you used to be the lieuten uh, what was it, sergeant, working patrol knights. So now we finally got you on.

Lieutenant Maness 0:23

And every time I see you coming, I duck you guys. I know I know that I know the invitation was coming. So I'm onto your tactics. I I found that out when I was told to be here. We asked you. Yes, you did. Yes, you did.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 0:35

You're a good sport. Thank you. Absolutely. So uh tell us

What Special Operations Covers

Officer Sam Rippamonti 0:40

a little about your new unit you're in as lieutenant.

Lieutenant Maness 0:42

Well, I spent most of my career in patrol and then I promoted to lieutenant. And in March I got a call saying, hey, guess what? You're being transferred to special operations. Yes. I had no idea it was coming. It was out of the blue. Five days later, I'm I'm the new lieutenant in special operations. And in this role, I I I look oversee the uh Allen Animal Shelter, uh the school resource officers, and our Allen PD traffic unit. So it's been an adjustment going from taking care of my patrol uh duties to learning a whole new set of rules and uh and the way to deal with people.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 1:17

Yeah, that is a broad range.

Lieutenant Maness 1:18

Oh, yeah. It's a lot of stuff.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 1:20

A lot of different personalities.

Lieutenant Maness 1:22

Yes. Yes, it is.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 1:25

How are you enjoying it?

Lieutenant Maness 1:27

It's a blast. I'm learning stuff all the time. I get to work with people that I have never worked with and also people that I haven't worked with in a long time. So rekindling some old friendships and working relationships has been great. And so and learning the new stuff.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 1:41

Right. And now you're over the boxing gym as well, right?

Lieutenant Maness 1:44

I am. I wish I had a little more uh to do with it hands-on, but Rob Kasali takes that. He's housed right next door to me in our office, and usually he takes the lead on that. But I am I am in charge of that as well.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 1:57

Any big events coming up with that?

Lieutenant Maness 1:59

We do. We have

Golden Gloves Tournament Logistics

Lieutenant Maness 2:00

a uh Golden Gloves boxing tournament coming up in July. It's July 6th through the 12th. Um it's a national event. It's uh for novice and open fighters, and we're expecting to get anywhere from five to six hundred fighters to fight that week. That's a large group of people. Yeah, we're gonna have four rings set up. Um, some of our interns don't know it yet, but they're gonna be helping move the boxing gym. Got an intern over there, sorry everybody. Uh just they're gonna be helping set up a ring. We're gonna move it from our boxing gym and set it up in the Allen Event Center or C UTX event center now.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 2:33

There'll be multiple rings in there.

Lieutenant Maness 2:35

Yeah, four rings total.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 2:36

Wow, that's really cool.

Lieutenant Maness 2:37

Yeah, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be busy.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 2:39

And you guys are partnering with other gyms, right?

Lieutenant Maness 2:42

Yes. We have Garland, I believe it's Arlington, maybe or Irving.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 2:47

Irving, I believe.

Lieutenant Maness 2:48

Irving, and uh there was another gym, but the people who are running this are Golden Gloves, and they're national, so they're they're kind of taking the lead on this, and man, it's gonna be big. And for somebody who has never had anything to do with boxing or doing on boxing tournaments, uh it's a lot that there's a lot that goes into it behind the scenes.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 3:04

Yeah, and athletes are flying from all over to come here too.

Lieutenant Maness 3:08

I think some of the first people that registered were from New York. So coming from all over.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 3:12

Big boxing community there in Chicago.

Lieutenant Maness 3:14

And they say that Texas has the biggest boxing community, believe it or not. And so they're expecting a rush of uh walk-in and last-minute registrations because it is a home tournament. So right now we're sitting a little over 200 boxers and hopefully get five or six hundred.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 3:29

And we have some of our own athletes competing as well, right?

Lieutenant Maness 3:32

Yep.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 3:32

Awesome. Yeah, we're excited. That's gonna be a cool event. So I guess, you know, has it been nice getting adjusted to a different schedule coming off patrol?

Lieutenant Maness 3:42

Oh man, well, the schedule's great compared to, you know, a patrol schedule. You could end up anywhere. The schedule I work now is it's a lot more beneficial

Family Life After Patrol Nights

Lieutenant Maness 3:50

for family. Um, and so you know, my wife loves it, uh, my kids love it. I get to see them a little more regular schedule. Not that I didn't see them a lot when I was on patrol, but the the hours were different. It might just be for a couple of hours. Now, now I got a more regular schedule and I get to sit down with them and enjoy them a lot more. Oh, and your boys are getting to that very active age. Getting. They've been active, especially the youngest one. He's been active forever.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 4:16

They play any sports?

Lieutenant Maness 4:17

They do. Both of them are into football. The oldest one is just football, he doesn't want to play anything else. Um my youngest one is if there's a sport, he wants to play it. And so we've had to pair him back to a couple of them. Yeah, mom and dad can't be everywhere. No, it can't be everywhere, and we can't afford everything. Yeah, so yeah, they're they're um a right-handed dad. Uh both my sons are left-handed, so teaching them how to do things has been extremely difficult. So is mom left-handed? Nope. Nope. They're two lefties, and we don't know where it came from. That's so one of your boys likes to wear suits, right? Yes, he does. Does he still do that? He does, he's gonna need a bigger one because he hit a gross spurt. Every um meet the teacher, he wears a suit.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 4:58

That's so cool.

Lieutenant Maness 4:59

Every picture day, he wears a suit. And um we've caught him in the back room doing how to do your hair videos to teach people how to do what he called fancy hair. So he knows what he's uh he's quite the showman. That's awesome. That's awesome.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 5:17

What got you into law enforcement in the first place? You've been here

The Personal Reason He Served

Officer Sam Rippamonti 5:20

a long time.

Lieutenant Maness 5:21

I have. I've been here almost 24 years, and all my people that work together with me are gonna say, What about the time you left? If we can want to talk about that, we will. I left for a few months and then came back. We knew you'd come back. Oh, absolutely. And so um it's a it's a very personal story that got me into law enforcement. There's a kind of a two sides to this. Um, my dad was in law enforcement, and so listening to the stories that he had, seeing what he did really, really made me want to get into it. But I had um back when I was in high school, I had a family member, a uh a cousin who was uh fell victim to uh burglary murder. And so seeing people investigate that, knowing what my family went through and what my aunt, bless her heart, it still goes through to this day, especially when parole hearings and stuff come up, made me want to get into it and help people, especially anybody that's been in a situation like that. Hate to bring the tone down a little bit, but that was uh that was the mood is shot a little bit, but that that's one of the main things that got me into it.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 6:24

Yeah, we all have our reasons for why we got into this career. You know, my father-in-law was a state state trooper, and I hadn't really no interest in law enforcement growing up, grew up on a farm. And then being around him for you know several years and seeing his hearing his stories and seeing it is kind of the same.

Lieutenant Maness 6:43

I just it isn't, it's all about timing. You know, I uh I got into it what I would consider late compared to what a lot of our officers get into it now, you know. It's they get into early 20s. I was in my late 20s, you know. It's just uh that back then the pay just wasn't what it was. And when I found Alan, it was perfect timing, perfect pay, perfect everything. And check out the city. Yeah, I think we had 270 some odd people apply, and there was four of us that got hired. So I was uh I was glad to be here.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 7:14

Did you think in 2008 this guy was my field training officer for phase three? I remember it. So I I rode in his car with him for four weeks. Did you think we'd be sitting here doing this today?

Lieutenant Maness 7:28

No, not a not a chance, a podcast on camera, never. I can remember two times in my career that I've actually been with ACTV and we've done something on camera. One of them was an interview for curfews, juvenile curfews, and then the other one was a um we did a kind of a uh commercial between fire and police, and it was Chief Harvey and I were out there. Something about a golf ball got hit and nearly hit us, and I was my acting was horrible. And then oh come on. Yeah, it was terrible. So um

Allen USA Rules And Youth Safety

Lieutenant Maness 8:05

that I never thought we'd be in something like this. This is awesome.

Speaker 2 8:08

Yeah.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 8:09

So uh other than the boxing with your new union, I know you're over all the special events. Any other big events coming up?

Lieutenant Maness 8:16

Well, of course, it's the Allen USA celebrations coming up. Um, you know, for America.

unknown 8:24

Yeah.

Lieutenant Maness 8:24

You know, so it's a big one. Um, so yeah, it's there's a lot that goes into that behind the scenes. And I have to give credit where credit is due. Parks and Rick and those people over there, they they carry the lion's share of this thing. Uh that they do a great job with this.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 8:39

So I'm sure you're involved in all the meetings with all the planning because handling the staffing for you know RN. Any big changes from last year to this year?

Lieutenant Maness 8:48

Well, one of the changes that they have uh last year was ticketed. You had to have a ticket to get in. That's right. They've gotten rid of that this year, so it's anybody's welcome to come. One of the rules um is that anybody under age 18 has to be with a parent or guardian. Um that helps us uh have somebody to contact if something were to happen to somebody who's underage out there. We have a parent or a guardian on scene, and that way we have somebody to talk to. If they get hurt, injured, yeah, get in trouble. We have somebody that we can call and and we can get them involved as soon as we can.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 9:21

Gotcha. So they need to have some identification, have some type of ID to show their age.

Lieutenant Maness 9:28

Yes, that would be beneficial. We're gonna have officers at all the gates. Um, if there's a question from the uh the staff that's there about these people getting in, they're gonna defer to the officers and the officers that help them make the ultimate decision on that. Um, what we're trying to get down and get away from is people coming up. Uh again, this is open, not just to island. Everybody has to understand that anybody's welcome to come from surrounding communities. Um, so what we're trying to do is get down, cut down on the hey, I've got family inside and and people just letting them through the gate. Because historically, our our issues have been at the end of the night with juveniles, teenagers um getting into skirmishes and scuffles, and it it we're just trying to keep that. If if something like that happens and somebody gets in trouble, we have somebody to contact on scene. Yep.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 10:16

And how's the parking situation? Is there like where do people park? Is there shuttles? I don't know. Oh, this is my first year at Send Big. Yes.

Parking Plan And Shuttle Tips

Lieutenant Maness 10:25

I've uh so parking is always a question. Parking is always a question, and people think that it's faster and easier to park in the surrounding neighborhoods. First, it's hard to get into those neighborhoods to begin with, just because of cars parked on the roadways. Um, kind of touching back on uh the reasons we're having people come in that are parent or guardian if they're not at least uh 18, is that we've had people that have gotten in trouble, been kicked out, and caused property damage. That's another reason people may not want to park in or around the the park up there. The easiest way to do it is to go to Allen High School. We have shuttles running from Allen High School. You can park there. No cost, no cost. Oh wow. We're we're planning on the last meeting we had, and can't hold me to this, 24 buses shuttling people back and forth. Uh no run continuous through it. No run continuous through the the start of it, and then at the end of it, um they're leaving out. Our traffic unit is gonna escort six buses at a time, uh, each interval. So 24 will be running. Each traffic officer is gonna escort six buses, so we hope to have everybody out of there pretty quickly. That will make it a lot easier. It will make it a lot easier. What I can if people will help us out by limiting the size of coolers or things that they might bring if they're getting on the shuttle, that helps with seating as well.

Speaker 2 11:43

Yeah.

Lieutenant Maness 11:43

Um, I know people have to bring strollers if they collapsible foldable strollers will help with uh the shuttles and getting people on and off. And loading and unloading when you load, load from back to front. I tell you all this because I helped with the the buses last year at the end of the at the end of the event, and people would stop and sit in the front because everybody wants to get off quick, completely understand, but people can't get past those people, you know, especially with children or coolers or things like that. If they'll they'll help us by loading back to front, that'll help speed them up and get them out of there and get them home.

Speaker 2 12:17

That's awesome.

Lieutenant Maness 12:18

Get us all home, get us all home, right? It can be a long day. Yeah, definitely is a long day.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 12:24

Super hot and exhausting.

Lieutenant Maness 12:25

Yes, you're gonna find out.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 12:26

Oh, I know. I've I've heard it the last two years, so this is my year to finally join in.

Lieutenant Maness 12:32

Yeah.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 12:33

Glad to have you. Excited to be there. So you're track, you're over traffic unit as well, so traffic unit will be a big part helping out with that. But uh, one of the other units you're over is the school resource officers.

Lieutenant Maness 12:45

I am, they're busy right now. They're uh junior police academy's ongoing. You guys were there last week for the graduation. Great turnout this year. Um they get to experience

E-Bikes Versus E-Motorcycles Explained

Lieutenant Maness 12:55

everything, right? And we we also get a chance to give them some uh some updates on what's going on out there and give them some advice on things. And the big thing right now for kids running around town is the e-bikes and the e-motorcycles, the difference between those and the rules and laws that go on with those. So this last week you guys were probably there for that. We tried, had parents in and did a little uh presentation for them and gave them some flyers to show them the difference between the two and what the requirements were are for, especially e-motorcycles.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 13:25

Yeah, a lot of uh and this is the it's a big push nationally right now. It's not just here in Allen, this is across the nation. And a lot of a lot of parents don't realize that if these bikes don't have if it's don't have pedals that operate or the or the motors over the I think the 750 watts has to stay under 28 miles per hour. If it does, if it doesn't check all of those boxes, it's an e-motorcycle, it's not an e-bicycle, and e-motorcycles have to be registered, you know, per our state transportation code, and none of them are registered. Uh none of them have license to ride an e-motorcycle on the street, and and it's just dangerous. You know, we don't want to see any of our kids get hurt here in the house.

Lieutenant Maness 14:08

Right, you know, we're not trying to ruin the fun. I mean, yeah, we were all young, wanted to ride motorcycles and stuff, but it's their safety, it's it's a concern for them. Just last Thursday, going home, I was heading down my street to my house, and from the side street, two kids on an e-motorcycle completely ran the stop sign. The driver, the rider, the driver had a helmet on, the kid on the back didn't. And the way they were riding, my car doesn't have markings on it, the way they were riding in front of me, I stopped them because I was concerned for their safety. And that's what this whole thing is about.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 14:40

You know, it's it's making our citizens feel unsafe as well, because you know, they're when they're driving, they're scared something's they're gonna dart out in front of them or come down these side streets or through parking lots, you know, they're crossing over. Yeah.

Lieutenant Maness 14:53

We've been extremely blessed that we haven't had any bad accidents yet. And we're that's what we're trying to keep from happening. Somebody getting it.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 15:00

We just want our our parents and our guardians to, you know, to understand the law and to when they're making these purchases, you know, some of them are expensive and know the law before you buy. And you know, e-bicycles are legal to ride. We still need to teach them to follow traffic laws if you're riding the street, you know, stop at our stop signs and you know, use hand signals when you're turning, all of that needs to be taught.

Lieutenant Maness 15:22

Right. And they need to know the e-motorcycles can't be ridden on the bike paths, they can't be ridden on sidewalks. They're they're not that's not what they're for. Private property in the country or something like that is where they can ride those unless it's registered and insured and they're licensed to ride it.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 15:38

Spread the word if you're if you're listening. Yes, please. Spread the word and help us out if you don't mind. Well, and we've been trying to do that educational piece too, especially with our bike unit. Um, you know, they've been out kind of talking to students and people that they interact with, especially you know, where they congregate and these mostly like the Terrell Rec Center and those um facilities like that. So we're trying to get the word out.

Lieutenant Maness 16:03

Kudos to you guys on what y'all have done. That your outreach through social media. Yeah, we're trying to push on the website. It's been great. Uh you guys have done a great job of what y'all are doing as well. Just want to spread awareness and you know, we don't want to see anybody get hurt. Well, it's not just that, it's not just spreading awareness, you get promoting you know the events that we have coming up. You guys do a great job. I appreciate it. Trying to make us blush. It's working. Good.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 16:28

So you're also over animal

Animal Shelter Updates And Rescue Calls

Officer Sam Rippamonti 16:30

shelter.

Lieutenant Maness 16:30

Anything going on there? Um, not right now. Uh have they're pretty quiet down there. That's good. Um, yeah, they're wanting to do a uh clear the shelter soon. Hopefully, we'll have more information on that. Uh uh the manager down there, Danny, reached out to me and she's wanting to try to set that up where we can get the animals uh some good homes. And but we haven't set any dates on that yet, but we are we are definitely in talks about getting that done.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 16:53

Yeah, I saw that they uh rescued a baby bobcat here recently.

Lieutenant Maness 16:59

We were just talking about this funny shimming. We were just talking about that this morning.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 17:03

The city posted a picture of it, and I was like, I want to go see it. It was gone before I could even think about it. It went to a rescue where they rehabilitate and release them back into the water.

Lieutenant Maness 17:20

They do go up.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 17:21

Yep. So you like prior to this, you used to also be the PIO. So I did. Can you share a little bit about that? Because we I mean we do the same role now. We took over from what you were doing.

Lieutenant Maness 17:37

Yeah, so when I started it, I took after Sergeant John Felty. He he suggested me, and I got a call from our previous chief Harvey, and uh asking me if I'd be interested in the role. I mean, what do you say when the chief calls you and you go, no, I don't want to do that? I said, Of course I'd I'm interested in it. Um went

Behind The Scenes Of PIO Work

Lieutenant Maness 17:55

to the schools, you guys have been to, you know it. I think one of the first ones that that we had was an officer involved shooting, and I went here, I mean, from the frying pan into the fire, you know. Yeah, what do I do? Yeah, and so but it it also was a great way because I was able to start working with Pamro. You know, we worked with them and partnered up with them, so we bounced ideas off of each other, and it really helped me again work with more people throughout the city that you typically don't get a chance to as an officer. Um, I was the uh the PIO um during some major incidents for for Allen. And um even though you can you can call it a great experience because of of the employment of the of the career experience, it it's tough. I mean you guys have got a you guys are both PIOs now, and I'm the backup to the backup. And so, you know, I mean we're all sitting here, this is the PIO team sitting here. So um yeah, you guys have got a uh very important and tough job, and I've I've been there firsthand on some stuff, some good stuff and some and some bad stuff. Some tough ones for sure. Yeah, there's some tough ones for sure.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 19:04

And and we always learn how how we can improve. Yeah, you know, in this I think as a city we've evolved a you know a great deal on on how we handle critical incidents, and those are because of those learning moments. It's unfortunate we've had those tragedies, those instances, but we've we've all learned and keep progressing.

Lieutenant Maness 19:24

Chief Dye coming in here with the experience that he had working with the media helped tremendously. Yeah. I mean, knowing seeing firsthand the need to not just have one, but two, but three um people in that are able to do the role. Uh because in in big in big instances, it's um you've got to have that. Uh it's just one it's just too much for one. So having a team, I I I thank him for having the the knowledge and the experience to get that set up. And thanks, Chief, for putting me in third place.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 19:55

Yeah, I was there for that conversation when he had it. I was like, what is happening right now? That's right. We appreciate everything you do. Like you're you're even though you want to be the backup to the backup, you're you're still there to help us when we need it, and we appreciate it. Oh, come on now. Oh, that's not true at all. When I want to take a vacation.

Lieutenant Maness 20:16

We do, we do stand up for each other.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 20:18

So no, but we all help each other out and partnering with different stuff. And I think it helps also because Chief is so involved and he's not scared to speak to the media, and you know, he likes to get out in front of things um and just be involved all around. And it helps our job and it makes it so much more easier.

Lieutenant Maness 20:37

Yeah, before the establishment of the team, I mean he I got to see him do some some interviews with media. He's impressive. He's good. Not only in English, but he does it in Spanish as well. And it's uh I was extremely impressed with that. Yeah, just a great job.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 20:53

When he started, and all of a sudden we had that uh it's like a media mixer that day and over in the courts building where we invited all the media to come out. I was like, what are like I didn't know what was going on, and then as you see it unfold, you're like, this is genius. Yeah. And look, here we are doing podcasts. So anything else going on with any of your your units or any no, not that I could think of right now.

Lieutenant Maness 21:23

Again, we have the Allen USA coming up, and we have uh the Golden Gloves Boxing Tournament coming up. Busy summer. Yep. Well, then not long after that, we have Black Friday coming up, and I'm in charge of the Black Friday traffic direction. And so, again, that'll be my first time around and experience with that. Then the Christmas parade. Yeah, Christmas Parade, Eagle Road. That's the list goes on and on. Looking forward to all that, you know. It's it's good, it's a good time. It's a lot of work that goes into it, but the day of man, it's it's a blast. Yeah, yeah.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 21:55

And uh, I'm sure a lot of those once you get like once you figure out how you set it up this year you'll be able to mirror it next year.

Lieutenant Maness 22:03

Oh I tweaked it. The help that I've given in yeah the help that I've been given on this and you know just some of the the ideas. I mean some of it's you don't broke you don't fix if it is broken, right?

Officer Sam Rippamonti 22:15

I mean and we have Officer Molina. Uh oh he came on and talked about USA on the podcast. Kudos to Officer Molina we're gonna do when he retires all our vehicles are going to run right he's also our local mechanic.

Lieutenant Maness 22:32

He is yeah I sent him a text message earlier about doing some work on my truck. But anyway yeah so yeah he's he's awesome I've already had him in my office we've talked about it he told me I said look you tell me what you need you got it you handle the rest and we're all good and um but I mean even Deputy Chief DeBlanca he ran it last year before it became deputy chief I mean he handed me down the the blueprints for that and I'm sure I'm gonna get some blueprints for Black Friday so I there's so much help. I mean there's so much uh work that goes on uh with people that have done it before it's it it really helps it makes it a lot easier than it would be doing it from ground zero.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 23:11

Yeah it'll be a long day oh it's always a long day if there's one thing you could tell the community what would that be?

Summer Events And Final Takeaways

Lieutenant Maness 23:20

I don't know that's a good one.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 23:22

I think we kind of touched on it on something that you know earlier when we were talking about the the e-bikes and things like that is you know it's to know before you buy it's what I would you know the big story right now.

Lieutenant Maness 23:36

Yeah the that I mean the safety of the kids is if there's one thing and having kids it's that's that's paramount for us. It's um again we're not trying to be the the runers of all the fun. We just want kids to be safe. We want them to have a fun summer have a good time be safe about it and again it's we enforce the laws we don't make 'em and so just just understand that we're trying to look out for them.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 24:05

Yeah we just want you to r ride safe and ride legal that's our new slogan that's the new slogan Alexis came up with that in staff the other day great job Alexis I was working on the website guys yeah and I just thought it fit it kind of sticks so we're gonna go with it I like it. So well we really appreciate you coming on talking to us today.

Lieutenant Maness 24:30

That's it that's all you got for me man I was expecting to we're not gonna beat you down. We won't you'll never come back oh no it was great thank you for having me thanks for inviting me I'm I'm a little upset that I wasn't your first guest but anyway we'll say that but they all run from us too and we go out and we go looking for our next guest this is fun I mean it's low pressure these guys are professionals back here they know what to do and I gotta tell you the finished product is amazing. I like watching them Scott and Jason doing outstanding work. I'm gonna tell you I'm not gonna watch this one watch all the rest.

Officer Sam Rippamonti 25:01

Yeah I understand no we're very blessed that you know they help us out and do all the heavy load right of putting this together because without them we wouldn't have this yeah thanks guys thank you if you'd like to learn more about special events coming up or the laws on e motorcycles versus e bicycles check us out on our website allenpolice.org and make sure to like and subscribe and if you have any comments leave them down below bye guys see you next time