Why Not Us
"Why Not Us?" is a podcast hosted by Dillon and Pastor Jamie, where we dive into honest conversations about overcoming fear, self-doubt, and life's challenges. Through personal stories and spiritual insights, we explore how to embrace growth, faith, and the belief that we all have the potential to do great things. If you've ever asked yourself, "Why not me?"—this podcast is for you. Tune in for honest, uplifting episodes that inspire you to take charge of your journey and reach your highest potential.
Why Not Us
Episode 15: Redefining Fitness by Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit
Unlock the secrets to a harmonious life where faith, fitness, and personal growth intertwine seamlessly. We explore the role of community leaders in fostering environments that prioritize holistic wellness. This episode promises to guide you through setting and achieving fitness goals that boost mental clarity and enrich your spiritual journey, creating a supportive network of like-minded individuals dedicated to comprehensive well-being.
Maintaining balance amidst fitness challenges and dietary pitfalls can be daunting, but fear not, as we unravel personal stories and industry truths that expose the realities of popular fitness culture. Discover how moderation and sustainable practices can help you transition off restrictive diets without losing progress, and learn the art of creating healthier lifestyles that stand the test of time. Through genuine relationships and knowledge, we emphasize the power of daily discipline in achieving your health goals.
Embark on a transformative journey that questions preconceived notions about genetics and fitness success. We delve into the distinction between appearance and actual strength, drawing from personal experiences to highlight the importance of aligning fitness approaches with individual preferences. This episode encourages immediate action and faith as powerful catalysts for personal growth, inviting you to take steps toward your highest potential with passion and purpose.
Welcome everybody to another episode of the why Not Us podcast, where faith, fitness and growth come together to shape life purpose and passion. Every episode we dig into real-life stories and strategies for building a stronger body, mind and an unshakable faith. We're here to inspire, challenge and support one another on the road to becoming the best versions of ourselves. So why not us? Why not now? We're so excited to have you here on this journey. This episode of why Not Us I'm just kidding this episode of why Not Us is brought to you by Bite Me Meals. Honestly, I just want to give a big shout out to Dan here at Bite Me Meals for letting us use his amazing space.
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Speaker 1:I have to eat these Tupperwares and do these things because all these guys on these YouTube shows and different things, that's what they're doing. And here's me not having to drop alcohol in two years. Haven't eaten at a restaurant in 18 months basically ruined my relationship with people around Christmas because they hated me because I was eating all these Tupperwares, or weddings and doing weird shit. I get to this club and doing weird shit. I get to this club. Every one of those people is doing drugs, drinking, eating and doing a whole bunch of stuff that they never talked about. Jamie, my man, how are you? I'm well you. I'm doing really good. I'm doing really good. This is a great Saturday of recording. Had some great conversations with Sean, always learning from Sean yeah, smartest man I know.
Speaker 2:Wealth of knowledge. Wealth of knowledge sean that's pretty fun. You know this is going to be recorded, but I don't care. Do you work at foos? Yeah, don't you. You don't work what? No heathers yeah, well, it's her birthday, so amazing. Thanks, bro, good boy yeah.
Speaker 1:I like that. Yeah, so I wasn't crazy. I did tell you that. I said I'm not sure, but I but I mean, did we want to record that? Who cares? Yeah, it's okay, it's raw, sean's job experience. You know he's a man of many talents.
Speaker 2:He is dude in spirit of mammon which is deep and stirring.
Speaker 1:We'll be, we'll hit that one again. Yeah, I think it's important that break it down from a few different angles. And and seasonally, and all of that too right, because things shift, even with seasons, right, and I mean like a season being the lord's definition of the season. But also even just I noticed myself, um, and we're not going to talk about this very much, but like in the spring, I always wake me more money than I do at like.
Speaker 2:It's always like there's like this desolate winter and I things are like scary and then wait, there's something, and I I honestly think that that with every level of financial income you make, you need to learn a little bit more about money and where to put it Right. So it's important. Put it right so it's important, we'll keep you know. It'll be cyclical, for sure.
Speaker 1:It was a fun episode and this one I wanted to chat a little bit more because I actually had a great coffee with Pastor Chris the other day and we chatted a little bit about so it kind of put this on my heart, you know. And he, we went for coffee and he came to the gym and, you know, showed him around the gym, you know, sat in the office and had a house she going for a bit and he actually brought it to me and this was it was special to me for a bunch of reasons and, um, I don't even need to get into it, but he, he brought to me that he has it on his heart that, like he knows that at the church and and being a leader of that church, he could be trying a little bit better to steward people to look after their physical health. Because he knows and he takes, he takes pretty good care of his physical health. Um, you know that it's a part of finding spiritual quality and as well as your mental clarity and all these things. And so he asked like, would it be okay if we, you know, in some capacity sort of partner with you? You know if I'm speaking about it and you know, I want people to have a safe, a good place to go, where they're going to get, feel good and be treated properly, and I've just never really found that. There's always been commercial options or things that I didn't think were a fit. And he said I honestly I would, I would love to recommend people to come here. Would that be okay with you? I mean, yeah, it's definitely okay, but it's okay for a few different reasons, and that's because I know how important fitness can be.
Speaker 1:If you've ever watched any crazy fitness person that you think like, oh, that person's insane, like all they do is work out, et cetera, some of that can stem from, you know, the desire to be more, or feeling not enough, and so, just like anything, it can have a tyrannical end to it. If you push it too far, however, fitness can be the thing that most people get to show. So if you set a fitness goal and you actually work your best an attainable goal, a sustainable goal, one that you're competent enough to attach so if you make the map right and you start carrying yourself down that map and you get to see look, I told myself I was going to get up at seven every day this week and normally I sleep in. But this time I did and I got to the gym and maybe it wasn't perfect, right, but I got my first workouts in. And then you see, well, because I did those first workouts, maybe I'm not going to have pizza twice this week because I don't want to undo all that work that I did.
Speaker 1:Right, because we're sensitive to the work we do, because it's hard. And then maybe I'm going to try to get to sleep a little bit earlier and these things start to happen. And then that can be the first time like it was for me in many people's life where you show up as the person that you want to be and say you are and that develops a self-worth of character. That can start to shift your relationships, it can start to shift your career, it can start to to to shift, you know, your view of self, which is so important to kind of cultivate into today's society, especially where I feel like everything is so accessible for dopamine.
Speaker 1:You know it's like grocery stores every bag things. Uber eats skip the dishes. Everything is just here to make us comfortable and satiated, and we love food. We love gluttonous, we're gluttonous, we're gluttonous, yep.
Speaker 2:Right and doing that. I mean it doesn't take long for that confidence to start building up again. You know, anytime that I get into the gym it's, you know, for the first time in a long time, it takes you one session to get back into a place like, okay, you know, that wasn't, that wasn't horrible, got through it and and from a guy who doesn't I don't, I'm not you. I don't work out for enjoyment. You know this. I work out because I need to and I and I don't want to be old and I don't want my body to break down on me before you know it has to. You know I want to do that. It's a necessity for me. I don't enjoy it, but I do enjoy the feeling that I get from it. I do enjoy the feeling that I get from it. I do enjoy the confidence that builds up in me and that's super important, that's it leaks into every other part of your life.
Speaker 1:Do you think and so two interesting things that that stem from that one even since starting this podcast, which I guess we're, this is like episode 15 or something. So we're probably five months in. We didn't do every. You know what I mean. So it's like probably something like that. Yeah, um, I've even sort of changed that. You know, like, if you go back and listen to one episodes one to five I was still struggling to work out, to keep working out the same way that it has always been for me, but the lord's been working it through my heart where, you know, now I'm almost viewing it more like that and it is a little bit of a struggle. I'm going to be honest, because I'll go into my workouts and I'm like, well, you didn't like train to absolute failure or you didn't do these things that you have done for so long that you viewed as the utmost of importance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I'll be honest, as I get older, I'm like I just don't want to do that all the time and sometimes, like yesterday, I had been working out for like 45 minutes. I had planned to do a little bit more. I looked at the clock and I had a podcast interview in 15 minutes and I'm like I would like to eat a little something before that podcast. Normally I would have been like, ah, I guess I'm just not eating, then I'll just I'll just finish my workout up, and I was like I guess the workout's done, yeah, and it it still wrestles with me because you don't want to give yourself too much slack, right? Because then that's what kind of lets you to fall back into old habits. And so there's going to be a time where and this is why people have such a heart, this is I have a heart for this People have a hard time maintaining, even me.
Speaker 1:It's just that I didn't decide to start trying to maintain for 10 years yeah, if that makes sense Like I've been blindingly trying to go, moved aggressively towards a thing which is undefinable, essentially, but moving towards something, and then, when you kind of have it. It's like, okay, well, now how do I maintain this? And kind of let off the thrusters and start putting some of that energy into other buckets. And I've been doing this for, like you know, 10 plus years. I want to pour into people that need the help, like I don't need the extra, you know, 15 minutes in the gym. I try to. I'm trying to do as minimum as I can to keep myself in shape and keep myself healthy, happy, et cetera.
Speaker 1:And so the second thing that came to mind in that struggle of development, I think people struggle to get going, the same way we struggle to maintain Right. But once you can kind of get going, I'd like you to to walk through maybe the last, I don't know two, three, four months that you've been training. Have you noticed a lot of, like some of those confidence shifts? Have you noticed just maybe you're showing up a little bit differently at work or in your relationships? Did you think that it hasn't really no?
Speaker 2:no, dude, it's, it's affected me greatly. You know, uh, I wasn't what, three, four weeks in that I called you from the golf course and told you I had a you know, extra 20 yards on my drive. Yeah, you're like, oh, I knew that would happen. Well, of course, you know, building strength again. You know building strength again, you know. And even fast forwarding.
Speaker 2:Now to back to winter hockey. I can feel it Like I'm silly, like I'm a beer league all-star, but still I feel like around the net nobody's pushing me out of that crease. You know I'm I'm getting. You know I'm grinding again. My legs feel good, my body feels good. I'm not leaving that rink, you know. You know, bent over, crippled, you know, cause my back's out. But also I mean, and I'm not gonna like, uh, I would love to love to work out. You know, I would love to just dream about working out, but I'll, dude, I'll slip back.
Speaker 2:Like the worst thing for me right now still is a rest day, because that rest day will usually overlap into two rest days. I'm like, oh, that was really good and it's not a, it's definitely not a burden going to the gym, but it's uh, I can find other things to do with my day. And that's like I say if I'm given the opportunity to not work out, I will take that wholeheartedly. But what I've done is in knowing myself, uh, I, I've set up parameters and accountability. So I'll call Dubber, like Derek done, and I'll be like hey, we're going to work out in the morning. First thing, because I know in my heart of hearts, the last thing that I'm going to do is let him down and not show up, cause if he's going to commit to coming in cause, he, he'll come in early for me. He's usually in around six o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2:You, you know, I'm just after five, five, 15, he'll come in early for me and there's no way, you know, in this lifetime, am I going to let him down, you know, not show up today. I didn't want to work out this morning, but I needed to because I just had two rest days, which were unwarranted, you know. Uh, no, because that is, knowing the confidence that I've gained I'm I'm stronger than I was six months ago when I started this program. I'm definitely more confident. My brain, like I'm more clear. There's a clarity that comes along with this. I know that and I can't miss, you know, I can't get myself into a place, even last week, you know, with the excuse of having a horrible week not going to the gym once, which is on me.
Speaker 2:I felt it. You get to the gym once which is which is on me I felt it. You get to the Friday of that week and you feel like your energy is gone. You, you've gotten. I'm like I'm not doing that again. Ever again Am I going to take that many days off, whatever's coming. I'm going to figure it out If I've got to do a homework out, if I can't get to the gym. But knowing that, so, setting up, knowing yourself, so for somebody who's like, oh, I don't really feel like going to the gym all the time, set up an accountability partner, find somebody that you can work out with that you know I'm not letting this person down, I'm not going to not go because they're going, they're expecting me to be there.
Speaker 1:I think we have like a couple of different papers that are, uh, that show like a 50% higher chance of success but just finding a workout partner, right, so just even setting that up. And some of that is accountability, some of it is we have human competition.
Speaker 2:And you push yourself harder. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. You know not that you and I competed against each other this morning, but, dude, I want to show you, of course you know that that I I'm actually working and I'm actually getting stronger. So I'll you know if I was going to quit at 10 by myself. I'm going 12. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just just just trying to push it. And you know, today I want to uh, you know we've chatted about general fitness and stuff before and I don't want to be repetitive and today I wanted to chat a little bit more about like the fads and just trying to share some facts with people because I think you know it's, it's never surprised me, excuse me, it's always been surprising, no matter how long I've done this that I'll get a new intake form from someone or a consultation, or I'll do a call with someone and the things they're worried about. I'm like how are you worried about this?
Speaker 1:This is so not important.
Speaker 2:So as an example and I want to touch on some of these things.
Speaker 1:So someone will tell me and, to be honest, the Lord has always gifted me with just a very, very rational mind, and so that's why I was able to help people and succeed, even when I was young, doing this. It's nothing I did, it's just the way I see the world. And so someone will say like, yeah, I did a keto diet like two years ago and I lost 50 pounds. I felt amazing and, uh, you know, then I kind of gained it back and now now I did some fasting a little while ago, or I did this other thing and I lost a little bit. But then and then now I'm back here and then you say like, okay, well, what I would really like to do is just first set these baseline habits.
Speaker 1:I would like to, you know, make sure we're getting outside for a little bit of a walk every day. I would like to set a step goal. Let's just start paying attention to what you're eating. Can we do that? And people are so drawn to those things that have, quote unquote, worked before, but they didn't work because they don't have it, because you're relaxed. That's the part that never surprises me, that someone doesn't catch where I'm like no, no, you just touched it. You literally like reaching for this wall. For so long and so hard your fingertips brush the wall. Then you started getting pulled away from the wall instantly. Slowly, you inched towards it and then you just got there and got pulled back.
Speaker 1:So the map in which you had set out is complete rubbish for your life, or maybe a way you were looking at it was rubbish in your mind, so that's fine. But I love troubleshooting and I know you and I have chatted about this. It's actually so easy to help people with their fitness and nutrition. Most of us have just told ourselves a story, because of our incompetence, that it's way harder than it is, because that allows us to live with that and not feel the shame and the pain and the discontentment. And you know, realistically, you know there's a thousand different ways that someone can get healthy and on the internet right right now it's hard to avoid seeing you got to do this diet or you got to take this supplement, or you got to take.
Speaker 2:I love when you guys come on and you have a clip of something and then it just pans over to you and you're just looking like at with disgust at what was well, because sometimes I can't believe.
Speaker 1:We're like, I'm like how are we here? You don't know. Honestly, you know, and I have a passion to, because it's the industry I'm in. Yeah right, and I don't like being a part of something that is full of nonsense, yeah right. So it's like I take it personally where I'm like we can't be telling people this stuff when I know that person telling you that knows better yeah, like they didn't what they have that they're advertising they didn't even get in the way that they're advertising it to you yeah, and they still don't.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna give you an example. You guys, I, for some reason who knows why, this is crazy to me. You know, I was working in a dealership and I've told this story before, so I'll be brief. And uh, you know, we did a weight loss challenge where there was like 5K on the line, like from a bunch of guys, and I was like, oh I'm for sure winning that money. The spirit of mammon was pushing me, so it's like, yeah, I'll cut this fat off with a knife, I'll literally shave it off if I have to, and so I'm going to get this money. Anyway, that transmuted me into kind of, you know, starting my fitness journey, you know, losing a bunch of weight, etc.
Speaker 1:But I fell in love with bodybuilding and I don't know why that a chubby, nerdy kid liked body. Like I just started seeing it in. You know, youtube was kind of coming around and this is so cool. You just change the way you look. It's wild to me. And uh, so there I am for like, bro, this is wild. 18 months straight this is a real story 18 months straight, I ate nothing that wasn't out of a little prep tupperware, christmas, new year's, everything you brought wedding, bro, weddings and I'm like I'm telling you right now, bro, if you would see what I looked like while I was doing that, compared to when I was super obese.
Speaker 1:Yes, I look healthy, I look great I was like 160 pounds, oh Like and not Like gone, not even as much muscle as I have now yeah.
Speaker 1:You know. So I was like a little bit lean, but like it's not, like you'd look at me and go like I would trade that body for what he's doing. Yeah, you know know, like nobody was making that trade. And so I mean, I was young and naive and I think it's fine to go all in on stuff, but anyway I started to realize that I just started to have questions about all that, and I remember going to my first arnold classic, which, for anyone that doesn't know, is that arnold schwarzenegger has this event. It's called the arnold classic. It's the second or first, depending on ask most prestigious bodybuilding competition and it's almost like a sports festival as well as a, you know, like a kind of a showcase of new supplements and all these things. The Expo is what they call it.
Speaker 1:And so I went to this bodybuilding show as a spectator fan, like I'm waiting in lines to meet people for two hours just to take a picture with them like one of these crazy people, and I had had some friends that started to gain some influence and we got invited to an arnold after party. Okay, and arnold is in columbus ohio, which is a shithole.
Speaker 2:Columbus ohio is like regina saskatchewan, but worse for, but get this all from columbus, I'm sorry I'm so sorry, but I really don't like your city.
Speaker 1:I've been robbed there a few times.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of bad stuff's happened just going to the arnold, by the way, bro but anyway so, uh, imagine your whole world view is I have to this little body that I've created that I'm happy with, compared to my obese body. Yeah, I have to eat these tupperwares and do these things because all these guys on these youtube shows and different things, that's what they're doing, yeah, and I have to do it as much or more than them. I get invited to this party. There's one club in columbus, ohio, and let me just paint a picture columbus, oh, was like 200, at the time, anyway, it was like 250,000 people. A million people come to the Arnold, oh, wow. So the city's population. Four or five Xs in one weekend. Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2:I hate.
Speaker 1:That's why I don't like Columbus, because the only time I've ever been there is under those circumstances where the grid, that, the grid, the everything, is not set up to hold that much people. There's no infrastructure for that. That's correct. And so I go to this club that's completely packed crap club, a bro. Still to this day. I can't believe what I saw. I look around and all these people that I was like idolizing in the spirit of idol and like, oh, I'm going to be like them. And here's me not having to drop alcohol in two years, haven't eaten at a restaurant in 18 months, basically ruined my relationship with people around Christmas because they hated me Cause I was eating all these tapwares or weddings and bringing doing weird shit. And company functions I think about that. 18 months is a long time, yeah, and I mean not nothing functions. I think about that. 18 months is a long time, and I mean not nothing, not a snack, not nothing. I don't even have that willpower now. Let me be straight with you.
Speaker 1:There's no shot. I'm not interested in doing it. But then I thought I had to to make results, and I'm saying this because of extreme fads, right, I get to this club. Every one of those people is doing drugs, drinking, eating and doing a whole bunch of stuff that they never talked about. Yeah, on any of this crap that they were putting out on the internet, yeah, it literally smashed my worldview with a hammer.
Speaker 1:I remember being this little sad 23 year old, like 160 pounds, walking around this club being like, wait, so they, they don't actually do this stuff, yeah, and then later found out about peds, which is a whole nother conversation I don't want to get into, and I'm like, oh well, this isn't what I thought.
Speaker 1:So the point is I realized that like I gotta start unwinding this because this isn't going to be sustainable, that that's the whole point of this very long-winded story. This is not going to scale, how I'm never, I'm never going to have a girlfriend or a wife or relationship, we're going to go out for dinner or I'm going to be fat. Like this doesn't make any sense, right. And so I started to realize that what people perpetuate you know, yes, there's. I understand marketing and all this stuff I really do and but so a lot of the things that what we're seeing is not actually what's required and because people are trying to stand out and the more outrageous you can stand out. With that attention you can turn it into monetization that's it, that's it right, that's.
Speaker 2:That's the driving force behind all this, like my whole goal has been. I want to. This is why I push for so long to try to create a gym at home, like get a place, like a room, get a gym in there, because I want, I want something, I want a program. Because I want, I want something. I want a program for the lack of a better term, a lifestyle that's conducive to to me, day in and day out, you know. And if I can't have the gym at home, I've got to make it conducive. So that's why I'm trying to get to the gym in the morning or in the evenings. It just doesn't fit in my day. And because I don't want to live this like all in on one thing, whether it be atkins diet, whether it be keto, I need something that I can apply to my life that's not going to radically change what I'm comfortable with already.
Speaker 1:You understand what I'm saying I absolutely do, and so I wanted to break. I have a little list here and I'm just going to go through kind of like some of the fad things that come up and I don't I'm not going to get into them, I'm not going to talk about science. I'm going to keep it really simple and use, I guess, a little bit of science just to explain science. Some simple things about some of these metrics that I don't think people understand, which would shape them considering using them. So the first one keto. See that lot right, and what the keto advocates will talk about is well, your body. You know you're going to have these insulin spikes when you're eating carbohydrates and insulin. Elevated insulin is why you're going to put on too much body fat. So then people are all worried. Like I got to do the keto diet, so I'm not spiking my insulin, et cetera. Right, and that's what's going to help me build fat.
Speaker 1:That's based on very outdated, poor science. It's been proven wrong, like a hundred times. Based on it's called the Taubes insulin resistance model of obesity. It's a false. It's a false. It's a completely false body of work. That's not how you put on body fat. Body fat is put on by the excess of calories and when you're only eating mostly fat from calories. Each gram of fat has nine calories, each gram of carbohydrates and protein has four. So for a hundred grams of material you're getting twice just about twice the calories.
Speaker 1:So people end up overeating on keto too, and that's why sometimes it doesn't work Right. Or they've just been eating a lot of carbohydrates, so they remove carbohydrates from their diet and they're left with protein and fat. What happened? We created a calorie deficit. Yeah, because I removed an entire food group that you are no longer eating. But then people feel like ass and they're like well, I'm losing weight, but I have a headache all day and it's like well, your brain's main source of fuel is glucose. So when you eat carbohydrates, your body turns that partially into glucose and your brain uses that as fuel. Your brain uses a lot of glucose. Like 70% of the glucose you use in a day is for. Your brain uses that as fuel. Your brain uses a lot of glucose. Like 70% of the glucose you use in a day is for your brain alone and it has a backup system because we're an adaptation species that when you go into ketosis it can turn ketones through a process called glucogeniosis and you can use the ketones as fuel.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like having a reserve tank on your car a hybrid car. Sean drives a hybrid car. The gas is what mostly drives the car around. But in a certain city setting, or a little thing here, burn down the highway you could just use the electric motor for a short time. So if you were stuck in the car, motor blew up, you'd have the electric battery. Why would you ever just only want to use the electric battery If that makes sense, like why would you purposely set yourself up for a map that you're not optimizing human function? Right, and that's why people can't stay on it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. That was a survival diet. That was called winters here and there's no more fruit, honey or tubers and so you're just going to eat whatever animals you can kill, which is protein and fat. There's no carbohydrates in animals. Yeah, berries aren't there, the fruits aren't there, the beehives aren't there. There's no carbohydrates. So our body's adapted to be able to only live on that. But it was never a long-term optimization system. It's a backup system. Yeah, I was keto for a bit.
Speaker 2:I've done it too. I've done all the dots for 18 hours, and then we had thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, I'm out bro, and that's what I'm talking about that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:You actually just segued that so nicely because it's very unlikely you're going to go a whole your whole lifetime without eating certain food groups. Now I'm going to say I've worked with a lot of nutrition clients. Some people fare fare better on and this is a relative term to the person, because our metabolism and how many calories we can eat in a day is all different different from Jamie to Sean to me and so you're unlikely to only eat two of the three macronutrients. And for most people, the other way to intake calories which is important to talk about, I think on this podcast is relevant is alcohol. Alcohol is basically converted in the same uh, calories per gram as fat, right, and so it's a highly dense product for what you're getting, and so that's why people are like I'm not losing weight, but I only had three, four glasses of wine on the weekend. It's like, well, you might as well put the biggest spoon in your cupboard or in your drawer into the peanut butter jar and heave on it as much as you can on one spoon and eat that entire thing. It's like, well, those glasses of wine, it's a lot of calories. Yeah, even though it just seems like oh, I just had a little couple half glasses of wine, right?
Speaker 1:The second thing is fasting, especially right now, super popular, and I like fasting for the mental clarity and the, the and that's why it's. It's in biblical and religious texts, in all of them the Quran, the Bible, buddhism, hinduism. It's in all of them because it teaches you mental fortitude and our bodies were designed to go way longer with food. This is all important to know and I'm sorry, it's long, wind-winded, way longer than what we give it credit for, right? So breakfast, lunch and dinner is a stupid Western idea. If you go to most other countries, they don't.
Speaker 1:It's not like I'm being hyper productive in the field right now and I'm, I'm working this way. Oh, 12 o'clock got to stop. No one else does that but us us, right, and that was done to maximize productivity, to give you a little break so I could get as much from you, uh, to work in the day. It was a factory system designed by ford henry ford in in the 1900s, and so fasting. People will talk about things like autophagy, which is a fancy word, for it cleans out your system, it does. But being in a calorie deficit and losing like 10% of your overall body weight does the same amount of autophagy as just not eating Right, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So again they're.
Speaker 1:They're booby trapping a feature or a function and then pulling it over, as it's the only way to get that. And you could see the deception, right, yeah, cause it's the only way to get that. And you could see that deception, right, yeah, cause it's like, well, instead of not eating the entire weekend cause you think you're going to autophagy or cells or something, cause some weird doctor on Instagram said that yeah, you could have just not overate. It's like they would have got to say the same function.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, detoxes. There's another one Detoxes. If you're going to buy something on Instagram that's going to fix you. You're going to buy a tea and it's going to fix you, specifically your liver and your kidneys. That's a miracle, because if your body needed detoxing, it wasn't getting your dead in 12 hours, right? So that means, whatever tea you bought, for it to work, technically it saved your life, which it's never done for anyone, because your liver and your kidneys do the detoxing Right and unless there's a problem with them, you're fine, and you're certainly not. If there is a problem and you realize, your doctor says, ah, your kidneys are coming back. They're not screening. We just talked to my grandfather died from kidney failure. Yeah, they didn't say did you see if any influencers have any detox teas that we could get him when he's passing away? No, it's like if you need that, that is not what's helping you at all. Yeah, so they talk about all these scientific functions.
Speaker 2:Oh, it does this, it does that.
Speaker 1:The other thing yeah, it does what your body's already doing. It's like you don't need that. Yeah, yeah, and but people get very attached to this and I've literally seen people get attached to results they've gotten using one of these systems and then having it not work because it doesn't fit their life, it's not sustainable. Yeah, and then they'll tell people as a story I really love to lose weight, but I just I can't quite do the keto, and they think that that that's it, like there's no more trying now, because I tried that thing and I I can't really do it and fair enough, it's probably was never for them. But that isn't the only story. The real story is I tried something that just really wasn't sustainable and I didn't have a proper map or the competence to move forward and, uh, I would like. The next feature that would be useful is I would like to find a different way that I could do this and make it sustainable over time.
Speaker 2:Right, so for somebody who does like, for somebody who's on keto, they've got a keto lifestyle. Yep, is it a two questions? Number one is it, um, something that is sustainable for the remainder of your life or no?
Speaker 1:I would say for almost anybody, there's bell curves with things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to put a few things into the same.
Speaker 1:I'm going to put a few diets that I and one of which I'm actually kind of a fan of what I call tools, because I look at things as tools yeah, the carnivore diet, a vegan diet, which are the complete opposite, essentially, and keto, which you can find a form of keto on either one of those diets, and often you do, because on a vegan diet sometimes they can be high carbohydrates, but a lot of times you're eating just vegetables and meats and things like this. Right, excuse me, on a vegetarian diet, no meats, and on the carnivore, you're just eating meat. Well, people's health will improve and they will lose weight on any of those things, and if you carry them on too long, what starts to happen is the opposite of the function you started with, because you're clearing out all the old bad habits that you were doing. Maybe you're not eating processed foods anymore, maybe you're cooking at home more, maybe because you're on some sort of nutritional protocol. Again, it's stimulated you to go exercise, which is a huge proponent of feeling better.
Speaker 1:And so five months later, you're like geez, I'm just not feeling as good as I was anymore, and then that's when people go oh, I must need MCT oil, or I must need something.
Speaker 1:And it's like no, you've just ran your car on the hybrid system for four or five months now and it's craving something else. It's a reset. Yes, and so I've done a lot of carnivore diets or keto Mediterranean-type diets that remove food groups from folks as a circuit breaker. You know keto Mediterranean type diets that remove food groups from folks as a circuit breaker. It's like you got a gut health issue. You're not. You're not able to break down glutens. I can fix you so your body can break down glutens. I just need to take them away and give it the right things for a while. Maybe use some herbal supplements, maybe use some lifestyle changes, but that's not forever. It's a season and most people think that seasons are forever. Right, right.
Speaker 2:Okay, so not me, but me, pretend it's me. I'm on the keto diet and I'm trying to kind of come off it, because we know that the one who lost 50 pounds two years ago on keto gained it all back and maybe more. What is the healthy way to come back off it and just move back into a steady lifestyle? Just moderation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, honestly, it's way simpler than what people think and they just don't realize that. Again, if you, if you, if you look at the keto diet specifically and we have a bucket and essentially what? Or just a general diet. So human nutrition, and I laid out the four kind of ways alcohol, which shouldn't be a staple in your, like, your calorie intake, but it is a way to do that. So alcohol, carbohydrates, fat, protein, it's kind of the four ways. Yeah, you put those all in a bucket and that's what's making up.
Speaker 1:If someone's just living a kind of whatever life they're living, that's what makes up the calories that are going into your body, that are dictating the fat on your body, body fat. If I go on keto, I'm taking the carbohydrates out of that sandbox pail and throwing it away, and so I'm left with the other ones sustain some results, let's say, and four months later they're feeling better 20, 30, 40, 50 pounds, whatever it is and then it's unsustainable, or they just have a desire to like go back to whatever normal is. They just reach on the shelf, they keep all this the same. Yeah, they reach on the shelf and they put that carbohydrate back into the sand pail. Oh, but they didn't change the amounts of any of the things that were remaining or the old thing. So all they did was go revert right back to the old thing they were doing, which gave them the body fat they had before. So the equation is perfectly two plus two equals four. What they had before is why they have what they were doing before is why they have what they have. And then they changed something. Something changed, but then they went right back to doing what they had Right, and so the way to look at that is okay.
Speaker 1:Before keto, I was having carbohydrates in my diet. The carbohydrates weren't, and because of the removal of carbohydrates excuse me, people correlate the success from the removing of the carbohydrates, not the removing of the calories. Carbohydrates make up calories. They could have removed the fat too Right, and done the same thing, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right. So when you're going back into it, you have to understand you're introducing a whole nother fuel source. So the other two plus the one you're putting back in the bucket, or the other three alcohol, fat and protein are gonna have to be adjusted to make a new equation to keep you moving on that path. Right, that makes sense, yep absolutely it does.
Speaker 2:I'm dude, I'm, I'm literally just a dead mic on this podcast, because this is your forte, you know, and and to, to hear you talk about it and your passion behind it.
Speaker 1:You've I mean you're, you're well read in this, in this, uh area, but you know I forget to be honest how much I know about this yeah because, uh, I've had to forget a lot to actually coach people.
Speaker 1:I know that sounds crazy and I want to tell you why because it's an interesting story. When I was young 23, I got into bodybuilding. I liked it. I'm also very realistic. We talked about this after I was training for about four years.
Speaker 1:I had trained with you know, like you said, we've worked out buddies, especially when you're young. You know you're training at the gym or whatever. I would have guys that would be training two months, three months, that were not obese or anything like me. They're just, you know, kind of normal dudes mechanics. I had a couple of friends that were just heavy duty mechanics, so they were working with their bodies, you know, had a little bit of a beer belly, they would clean up their diet just a little bit, lift weights and it's like they're just benching three, 15 for reps.
Speaker 1:And there I am, I've been training, being this crazy person with these top wears, never missing a workout my whole life and like I don't even look as good as them, and and I would analyze the efforts and all that and I was never really resentful about that. It was just realistic to me that I understood genetics play a role, yeah, and how this is all going to shape up. Yeah, but because I knew I wanted to coach some of the best athletes in the world. Like I was saying that when I was still obese, like I remember going back to the car dealership after my lunchtime workout and I saw a guy who would probably be like brayden or ty, probably smaller than brayden ty. Now, yeah, and I came back and I'm like, yeah, that's the guys I want to coach. And I'd have my boss be looking at me. Like bro, you're, you still are fat. Like what do you mean? Like this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1:And you know and so, but fair enough, and you know, what I started to realize was so I'm going to need to be. To do that, I'm going to have to be a little bit more knowledgeable than everyone, because I'm not going to be able to market just this, this statue of a physique, yeah, right, so I'm going to need to get a little bit more knowledgeable. Here's where the Lord gave me a gift my little bit more knowledgeable when I entered the marketplace was a lot more knowledgeable, right, because I'm obsessionary and because I knew I was the underdog.
Speaker 1:So, for months. I'm just like intaking, intake, intake, yeah. And then I would get on different podcasts or stuff and I'm like, wait, you guys don't know any of this. Like, how do you have a job here?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That makes sense, like I was looking at it as an industry and to me there was a standard that you would have to be, even just to put your name in the bucket, but then, because there's no bear, I didn't understand all this. Then there's no barrier to entry, right? So that doesn't exist. And so I kind of showed up to the party, which pissed a lot of those guys off that look like that, because I started getting business and different things, because I could articulate and speak and I had sales experience, which marketing is a huge part to massive part of it maybe most of it and um, anyway, so you can see that you know sometimes how we correlate things is not always how they work out. Yeah, right, so it, I am passionate about it.
Speaker 1:But I got into a place where I thought this is really useful to know, almost like people put an emphasis on that on removing, let's say, the carbohydrates from a keto diet like that did the thing right.
Speaker 1:I equated my my first little taste of success, let's say, when I got my first hundred online clients at 24 years old.
Speaker 1:I thought that's because of how much I knew and because I wanted to increase that influence, impact and business, I thought I have to keep knowing more and I'll be honest, there came a point, by the time I was 30 doing the same job, I knew too much and that's why I ended up having to go into what's called functional health, because in our kind of our niche space which would be like doing a consult with for Ken's wife who has ALS Really I should probably have no business even talking to someone about that and I understand that.
Speaker 1:But because there's these pockets where people can't get help and they get desperate, yeah Right, and all of a sudden there's this crazy guy talking about all this stuff, like underground scholar, you know, like either he's going to kill me or I'm going to be healed. And I had the ability to help some people with that knowledge. But I realized, like just for the general person, sometimes it's hard for me to even give advice, which is part of why I like talking on this podcast about fitness, cause I'm not trying to posture on this podcast about fitness. Because I'm not trying to posture, I'm not trying to sound a certain way, I'm just trying to deliver information to the, to the masses. That will be the most useful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it makes sense, yep yeah, I mean it's, I mean it's helped me, your knowledge has helped me. But what do you do if you so? Let's say you know too much and you know you understand genetics. You've got the same person that you've been training for two years. They're getting stronger, but body shape hasn't really changed.
Speaker 1:I do this all the time, dude, and I can tell now and what I try not to do. I'll tell you what, braden. This is how Braden and I got very close. I hired Braden as a coach this would have been God four years ago, I think and because of his notoriety in the bodybuilding space, I looked up to him and I was like man, I want to learn from this guy. He's done a cool stuff that I'm trying to do. Yeah, he worked with me for three months. I remember this check-in like it was yesterday, bro. We send it like he would, just like I do now. He would send me a voice notice. I'm at the gym and like I'm listening to my check-in, and he goes dude, you know we bumped your food up a couple of weeks ago and, uh, you know I thought you would get like nice and full and I thought the performance would go away. Bro, you just look like shit and he's like I think you have the worst genetics of anyone I've ever coached.
Speaker 1:I'm serious, bro and I mean you know, brayden's got a very bodybuilding focused roster, at least at the time he did, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it was very objective about.
Speaker 1:Look, you know, and I this is funny because it it it didn't offend me at all tell you what it you what it made me joyous and I want to tell you why.
Speaker 1:Because I had already suspected that, based on my own reality of what I was seeing for myself in the world and the efforts I put in, but if I was to ever try to bring it up as a thing, the people who have great genetics hate when you talk about this, because they're like, no, it's because you didn't do something, yeah, yeah, and because it takes away anything that they've achieved being from god. They want it to be from them, oh, yeah, and their laurels and their work, yeah, and obviously, as I got older, I understood this. But it was kind of like, finally, and he's sensible and he's done all these things and he's seen a bunch of people too, yeah, and he told me you, you know? So it was like and I never looked at it and I guess people don't some coaches don't like talking about this. I don't know if there's a right or wrong, because they don't want people to use it as an excuse not to try hard to be their best Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:I remember following this guy on Instagram years ago and he went on this like he had a career but he went on this like health journey.
Speaker 2:So every day you would get a you know something from him on Instagram at the gym again and, like after two or three years, I thought to myself, dude, this guy spends so much time in the gym Yet looks the exact same as he did when he started in the gym. And I'm like, but I didn't understand that, like I didn't know, I thought, if you, you push weights around, your body's gonna change. But I realized that, like somebody else can push weights and look a lot different than I do, I'm just, I'm just gonna bulk up and look like I'm a. I'm just, I'm not gonna. I don't know that I could ever get to the v-shape. I look at my parents, or my dad especially. I don't think he we could. I, I could ever get to the V shape and I don't even want to push it. I'm 48 years old, you know you're right, though.
Speaker 1:That's all genetic structure, muscle insurance, insertions, the mTOR, the ability to build muscle all of that is genetically unique, and so what I try to do is the I. I've. I've worked hard on communication and speaking from the heart and not putting things in negative connotation, but I can tell within two months of working with someone, especially if I sense that they're actually doing what I think they should be doing. If someone brings up like I'm a little disheartened, you know, like I thought I would be a little bit more down on the scale, or I thought these clothes would be different, or I thought it'd be stronger, etc. I'll tell them look, I've worked with a lot of people and I'm going to be honest, your path is going to be a little longer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there is people that come into this and I don't want you to think that it's that this is false. People come into this and you know I'll use myself as an example and I'll coach someone who's 20 years old and lifts weights for eight months and they're more jacked than I am. Oh, yeah, and I'm like what? Like such a ripoff, right. But, however, I always try to show them that like why did you hire me? And they'll answer like well, I liked how you, how your mind works, I liked how you thought about things, I like how you laid out this type of thing, and I'm like that came from the delayed gratification. Yep, if the Lord had just gave me the physique that I've worked really hard to build now in one year, I would have never learned all those lessons that I'm now teaching you. Yeah, and so he's walking you through this path on purpose. Yeah, that's cool, man, isn't it? That's how it kind of ties around and Brings me to a piece of scripture I want to share Corinthians 6, 19, 20. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own, yeah, and that I only bring that scripture up because of what I said.
Speaker 1:People that have really good genetics don't want to be told that their genetics are part of their success because, yes, they've worked hard. Yes, they've done a whole bunch of stuff. Success because, yes, they've worked hard, yes, they've done a whole bunch of stuff. Usually they've done peds and they've not talked about that as being as influential as it is, yeah, and so I'll tell people that are on the opposite end of the coin that are just trying to get in better shape and they see all these people on instagram like, listen, there's going to be two or three recipes that just aren't in your cake. Yeah, mix, yeah, yeah, and that's okay. Yeah, we have to deal with the journey, you're on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's like because I mean you know I'll sit at the gym and you know I'm I'm pushing the weight that I'm pushing. But I look at the 22 year old kid who probably weighs a buck 45, but he's dude, he's cut, you know what I mean. And he's walking around like he owns the gym and I'm just like dude, you might be cut, but I can still throw you through that wall, you know what?
Speaker 1:so relax I got uh, it's funny because the bodybuilding community does a lot of posturing from physical size and a few years ago, when I went back to doing some martial arts, yeah, you realize that, like my god, all these 150 pound guys can just beat this beat me up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man. Dude size has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't you know it's not, it's it's really not so anyway it's. It's one of those things, dude, where I'm always trying to give people the real equations to what makes outcomes right. And this is something I've studied a lot, because I've formed my life based on what I've seen other people do and myself, and then formulating a proper map to give to someone to follow and it's, it's specifically tailored to each person.
Speaker 2:Correct it is.
Speaker 1:You know, there is some general like I'm going to use in a prime example. Okay, this is where, like, I don't love the whole food system, healthcare system, but we're blessed also we could be in Ghana taking hellfire, rain, missile storms, right.
Speaker 2:So there's perspective right.
Speaker 1:So we have good care here and we have access to good things. I'm grateful for that. It's not my favorite, however. So, as an example, you might go online and someone on Instagram is talking about the Canada Health Food Guide and they're like look at this garbage. Like they have this as a staple of your diet and this and these aren't health foods. And I could even agree with that, uh like in isolation. But then when you read into the Canada health food guide, it says that adult males should eat between 2,000 and 2,300 calories and females should eat between about 1,700 and 2,100 or 2,000 or something like that.
Speaker 1:If everybody followed that rule and including eating all the stuff on that Canada health food guide there would be no obesity, right? None, zero, really no. There'd be no fat. There would be a certain edema disease that my cousins have stemmed with. 1% of the population would be obese. If everyone, every day, men just ate 23 to 400 calories, women ate 2,000. And that's where someone will come on Instagram and tell women you shouldn't just only eat 2000 calories.
Speaker 1:It's like what do you mean? Why not Most of civilization? We didn't get that much. It's not like a super low amount. It's just low relative to the fact that North Americans eat 4,000 a day on average. Yeah, dude, you'll get that at McDonald's for one meal. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, right. The coffee, two sugars, two creams, a couple of bacon and eggers and a hash brown. You're two thirds of the way there already, buddy. That sounded really good, though it does right and that's, but that's what I'm saying, right. And those aren't health foods either, and I've mentioned this before. There's tons of great literature Donald's diet, 7-eleven diets but they've stayed within a calorie structure and they've improved their health markers, because most of the health improvements that come from weight loss are from the weight loss. Not how you did it. Yeah, in the 50s we could never do this now. In the 50s they did something called the Minnesota starvation study, where they took like 100 men and put them in an institution and didn't feed them for, I think, 90 days.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Something like that, or 60. I can't remember. Like nothing, nothing, just water. They were getting IV, vitamins and everything and fluids through IV so that they could stay hydrated, and every single person lost too much weight. They looked like concentration camp prisoners, yeah, and.
Speaker 1:But when you saw the metrics, like, until they got too lean, their health all improved, wow. So their health was all improving until a certain point where they had lost too much of their body fat and then the health starts to go down, yeah, and we see that with bodybuilding. Yep, that's why the last six weeks of a bodybuilding show, even though you look great, you six weeks of a bodybuilding show, even though you look great, you do not feel good. You have no body fat reserves. Same idea.
Speaker 1:So they were eating nothing and improving their health Locked in, essentially like what looked like a penitentiary, you know, anyway. So the point of that is is there's many different paths to finding health and if you can just find a way to move your body, I don't care if it's spin, I don't care if it's lifting weights. Lifting weights has its own magic properties, if you will, but I don't even think we need to push that. Like you said, not everyone's going to love lifting weights and if I can get you to lift weights once a week but you really love doing a spin or bar class or whatever it is, do that, that's great.
Speaker 2:You're going to be way better than doing nothing yeah, dude, if you ever see me at a bar class, you know that I've made a wrong choice.
Speaker 1:I had a stroke, bro for sure, if I'm at a bar class, something happened to me that would be we should just do it for fun. I was just gonna say we should get sean to come and film film doing a bar class to be the most outrageous you know, somebody's gonna pipe is going to pipe in and say, listen, I'm going to open my doors for you guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's go, yeah, so the foundation of all this is discipline. Yep, and it's a healthy discipline. You know, trying to find out what works for you, right, trying to find out the method to the madness that brings you down to a goal weight, so kind of bringing this to a close. What is, what is the? Give me the equation for somebody like me to say because I can say to you, hey, my goal weight's 170 pounds. You're gonna be like dude, that that's not gonna work on your frame, right, okay? So if somebody wants to say, you know, know, got you know, heading into winter, wedding season's coming up, we got a bride that needs to lose 20 pounds, but you're like 20, you're not going to feel good losing 20 pounds because I don't think you have 20 pounds to lose, what is the equation that you work out as a trainer to say, okay, or do you even use goal weight Like, what are your goals?
Speaker 1:No, I do, and that comes from an eye right, like what are your goals? No, I do, and that comes from an eye right. So it's kind of like I can look at you and look at how much percentage body fat you might be carrying and then pose an ideal. I'm not married to that number, but it just gives something tangible because as people, we need something tangible to look at. And honestly, in real, simple terms, if you've been struggling with wanting to get your health better, wanting to lose some body fat, I'm telling you a few things.
Speaker 1:You're moving a little bit too little and you're eating a little bit too much. How you fix those problems? There's a bunch of ways to do that and there's no way I could speak into everyone. One way to do that I'm telling you right now those are the problems. It's not because you don't have a supplement, it's not because you don't have a detox, it's not because you're not doing a certain type of diet, it's not because you're doing a magic workout. It's because you're doing those two things You're moving a little bit too little and eating a little bit too much.
Speaker 1:And if you weren't doing those things, you wouldn't have the body fat you were doing and but the the discipline part is you can't just do it for five days, yeah, and then on the weekend oh, it was just the one day, yeah, yeah. But let me tell you about this If you're eating 2,000 calories a day for five days, that's 10,000 calories. On the weekends, another two days, so your total allotment would have been 14,000. If you eat 6,500 between Saturday and Sunday, any work that you just did in the week is now void. You're right, the math is wrong again.
Speaker 1:So there's always equations, right, and we look at it as like well, I, just the one out of six days is bad. So that's, that's good, right? Yeah, what? The what is in the sixth day? That's fine to have a little break and stuff like that, but too much of that will poison the entire well of work, and Much of that will poison the entire well of work. And so to leave us, what would you say? Some of the best teachings that you've found through scripture, or just like being a pastor and overcoming what you've come in your life for using the Lord to craft discipline.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I mean I think I've talked about my story here where I've had to because I was tired of being after high school and you're not playing hockey full-time anymore and you get into that. You know twenties and you're not taking care of your health, like it's like any retired hockey player. You look at them and they they'll put on an instant 20 pounds unless they've got a work ethic outside the team structure, teflon, stuff, like that. There are certain guys, but then there are other guys that just put the weight on because they're not in that same mode of discipline where I literally had to ask the Lord to help me and to train me and to reset my mindset in. I just can't go in all the time. And it can't be a fad, because it was.
Speaker 2:I mean, for me, running was a fad, dude. I, you know, in the span of three years I think, I ran for me, uh, four or five half marathons and a bunch of 10ks and a bunch of 5ks. But it was a fad for me, it was something new, you know. So, in essence, for me that was my fad season. Then I would like oh, you know, I'm gonna try this diet and I'm gonna starve myself. I'll do. You know, three days on two days fasting, three days back on two days fast, stuff like that. And it's like us, in moderation, it's not bad. You know, first I lost a lot of my weight, uh, intermittent fasting, but it worked for me. But I also knew that there was a season where that would come to an end, so trying to work myself back into it, but literally had to ask the Lord, you need to help me. So he, you know, his whole requirement for me to teach me discipline was just to just worry about today. Worry about now.
Speaker 2:I call it chip away and then you can. I know that you ran a half marathon, but you haven't run in eight months. So if you get out there and you can only run a kilometer, don't beat yourself up, because eight months ago you ran 21 kilometers at one time, you know, or whatever you were doing for training, just run that one kilometer and be satisfied. But, like I say to you, I try to never push the same weight twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, build on that, whatever the foundation is Whatever you did in set one. I don't care if it's the two pound weight, put it on, you know, just lift a little bit more and build yourself don't?
Speaker 2:we want to go for gusto we want to go in and we want to start. You know here, oh shit, yeah, like just stop. Just stop that, because it's all it's going to lead you to. And the opposite of discipline is discouragement, where you feel like you've let yourself down, you don't have the same discipline. I don't say the. I would say one of the enemies of discipline is discouragement, because you're not able to do what you used to be disciplined at. But you have to build yourself back up and you become a result. You become a direct result of your daily disciplines.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's simple, that's a good word. Just starting where you can start and progressing upon that. And don't let, don't let any ground take back, right, you think about it like a trench war. It might be dark, you can't see, there's bullets firing off, but then today we just get to the hundred feet to the next one. But the goal is not to fall back, not to be pushed back to the other trench. I'm trying to encroach and I might take year two, three, whatever it is.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and it's like, as cheesy as this is, it's one thing that really sticks out to me. It's instead of one day, make it day one. Everybody needs a day one. I mean, I didn't come up with that, if you know, you can believe I did and I won't discourage you from believing that, but it's day one, like when? Is is even today, your day one is tomorrow, your day one, just make it happen. It doesn't matter what it looks like, just start doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because a positive emotion is built on action. And so when you forego the action until tomorrow, I'll start. Monday, I'll start, after Christmas, I start you're just poisoning yourself the whole time and your life will never change on good intentions.
Speaker 2:You can intend to do something so long and you think it's going to. No, just go and do it. Action, yeah, Action, buddy. I love that bro.
Speaker 1:Do you have anything else to add to that?
Speaker 2:No, man, I think it was pretty good as much as I contributed to this podcast, but I mean, this is your forte.
Speaker 1:You did a lot, man.
Speaker 2:A lot so.
Speaker 1:I'm going to, I'm going to pray, yeah, I want to pray over everyone. This is a special one to me because I have a heart for it and you know, jamie even reminded me of the passion that I do have, because I have, so I wear a lot of hats now and just being in this, you know it's, it's people that feeling. So, lord, we come to you today and I would love for you to be able to open up some people's minds and hearts and vision, to be able to see that it's not as complicated as they may have made it and the feeling that they're going to get is of the Holy Spirit if you learn to take care of your body. We know that you've gifted us with the ability to feel the Holy spirit carried in our vessel so we can go and influence communities, so we can go and influence relationships, so we can go and influence other people, the next generations, and in order to do that, we have to be our best and we have to be striving. We know, lord, that you've built us for striving to look up to the highest good and walk towards it, and whatever that is for you is what we want you to find.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amen, amen. Oh, that one was pretty good. All right, love y'all.