Cabin Pressure with Shawn and "G"
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Heartfelt Stories, Unexpected Twists and Blue Surprises
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Bankruptcy blues and unexpected plot twists mark the rollercoaster of emotions and laughter-packed stories in our latest episode. Ever wondered what it's like to binge-watch "Yellowstone" and get blindsided by a plot twist with Kevin Costner? Well, we're here to share our shock and heartache, while also tipping you off to some other shows worth your Saturday night, like the intriguing detective series "Cross." From surgery recovery tales to quirky in-flight mishaps, we’re ready to keep you entertained and longing for more.
Flying high with humorous in-flight antics, we recount the unforgettable saga of the passenger who became an accidental "Smurf" and the chaos that ensued. Ever cleaned up a blue mess with vodka and makeup removers at 30,000 feet? We have. But it’s not all laughs; we also touch on the serious side of things, like the challenges of narrow airplane aisles and the occasional cart incident. This blend of humor and reality gives you a peek into the world of flight attendants, where camaraderie and quick thinking are the norms.
Facing financial turbulence, we share heartfelt discussions about the impact of airline bankruptcy on the lives of flight attendants. Imagine transitioning from five-star hotels to budget motels, complete with quirky keys and lack of seatbelts. We lighten the mood with tales of motels gone wrong but also reflect on the resilience needed to weather these storms. Join us as we explore the charm of Madison, Wisconsin, and remind ourselves that tough times are temporary, with a strong message of encouragement for everyone riding out the storm.
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Yellowstone and in-Flight Antics
Speaker 1Ever heard of a grown man turning into a smurf? Have you been hit by a cart on a plane? What's it like to fly through bankruptcy? Did someone say bedbugs? All this and more. Next is Cabin Pressure Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2There was a huge announcement this week Huge.
Speaker 1What announcement. Bankruptcy. This is Cabin Pressure. Welcome everybody. There was a huge announcement this week Huge. What was what announcement? Bankruptcy, wow, bankruptcy. Dude, that just like gave me chills right now, like all this, like memories and stuff just flashed back in my head right now Bankruptcy, bankruptcy, sucks, it sucks. There's nothing good about it Nothing.
Speaker 2We're going to get to that in just a little bit, but hey, let's catch up. What have you been up to?
Speaker 1You know, sitting around the house watching shows, doing my mending, getting my knee back in order, I'm right on target on my physical therapy, all that good stuff. But you know, man, if you want to talk about shows and stuff, we can talk about shows, the whole freaking episode. That's all I've been doing. I mean, when you're out on operations and stuff, all you're doing is sitting around doing nothing.
Speaker 2Yeah, but there's one show you know we're going to talk about right now.
Speaker 1Oh, dude, you know it. I was getting ready to ask you, yellowstone.
Speaker 2Yellowstone.
Speaker 1Yellowstone man. What?
Speaker 2do you think about that first episode that's caught off guard? What about you?
Speaker 1First of all, two plus years, whatever it is, since it's happened, the show's been and we've been everybody's been wanting to see this episode. I was just anticipating so much more than what that first episode was. I mean, that's how I felt about it. What do you think?
Speaker 2I was shocked that they started off with killing him off.
Speaker 1Yeah Well, I mean, I was like, how are you going to get? I was like spinning my head how are they going to get rid of Kevin Costner? How are they going to? How's this happening? And then you know that first 20 minutes of the show you're like, hmm, okay, killed him off. Yeah, they just killed him off. And you're like, you know, but you didn't, you know us processing the show Like everybody in the world knew, before even the show started. How are they going to get rid of Kevin Gossner? Was the big question out there, right? And then here it is they killed him off right away.
Speaker 2They made it permanent. I mean, there was no question about it, right, yeah, there's no question about it. Like he could come back for another.
Speaker 1He's not coming back period, I mean unless he's in a memory.
Speaker 2But you know it kind of sucked that way because you're like they really did this is it, this is it yeah this is it.
Speaker 1And then you're like, okay, well, if he's not in the show, like you know, wow, what else is the show? But then the show kept going on and it felt like it was jumping, bouncing back and forth. It was somewhat hard to follow and the quality of the show to me was just not as good as what I was anticipating. I was anticipating so much more because they're always ready to get it on right, oh yeah.
Speaker 2Well, you know that there's going to be retribution all the way around, because the way that best character is with Casey and Rip, yeah, there's going to be a lot going on.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's some people going to be dying. There's going to be some people getting hurt, for sure. Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 2But I have to say I did not like the way that they opened up.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean I love the show.
Speaker 2I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean I absolutely love the show, love watching it and will continue watching it as long as they produce it, but I just did not like the way that they started it.
Speaker 1Well, I mean just, the whole interior of this feeling that we're talking about here is that we just hate that Kevin Costner's off it right. Yeah, I mean he helped the show so much he was was a huge part of that show. Anyhow, that was that Kevin Costner and Yellowstone and all that stuff. It wasn't as what we thought it was going to be right.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, but, like I said, I love Yellowstone, so continue to watch it, even though I didn't like the beginning of it.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's the way it is sometimes right, it is what it is, man. A lot of other good shows out there, but I can give you a whole list of shows. Anybody wanting to know about shows, man, you know email, email us. Well, we'll talk about any show you want to talk about. I'm a big uh, uh, you know my wife's a big, huge reader and there's a show on right now called cross, which is this episode. You know this, like uh detective that's in DC do really good show. You gotta, you gotta check it out. But uh, we just started watching that and stuff. But anyways, what else been going on?
Speaker 2Well, um no, you know I've been working. Uh, it was uh caught up with this flight attendant. Uh, last night it was actually pretty funny we had an incident, me and her years not even years ago, it was probably a couple years, but we had an incident last night and we were just talking about that and we'll get to that in a minute also. But you know, when a passenger comes back to the back of the aircraft and they're not feeling good, oh yeah, we get that all the time, all right.
Speaker 2Well, this was me and Margo years ago. We're sitting on the back jump seat. This guy comes back and he's sick. He's not feeling good, right. So he goes to me and goes. I got to go to the bathroom. Well, I was a little nervous because he's kind of pale, yeah. So I said let's just lock the door open because I don't want you to pass out. If you pass out, you're going to get stuck against this bifold door. We ain't going to get your ass out of there, right. So he's sitting on the toilet. He's not feeling good, kind of get his head down. And I looked at Margo and I said, margo, hey, grab me a cold compress to put on this guy's face, because that's what we do.
Speaker 1Right, right. I mean all these bells and whistles are going off in my head right now just thinking about the story, Like how am I going to react, and all that stuff, yeah, cold compress.
Speaker 2The first thing is cold compress for sure. Yeah, absolutely so. You would think paper towel, grab something. But do you know those blue napkins that we have, those naps that we use? Oh, no, yeah, you know the ones that. What do they call?
Speaker 1those curtain things or whatever, I don't even know what they call it, but it's just a big blue napkin.
Speaker 2So I'm standing there and I'm like, hey, give me a cold compress. So she just takes it. She's not even thinking about it, but she takes it. She dips it into all this ice-cold water in the beer and the wine, and you know, that's cold, it's all that's melted off. And then she gives it to me and I'm not thinking either, to tell you the truth and she gives it to me and I give it to this guy and he puts this big nap thing on his face and he's holding it there for about four or five minutes.
Speaker 1Oh, my goodness, I'm going to tell you right now, ladies and gentlemen, I'm freaking out because I'm like. This blue towel that they just gave him here is not a good situation, and they're not definitely on top of their game, right now.
Cart Incident and Smurf Mishap
Speaker 2No, we're at the bottom of our game right now, to tell you the truth, because neither one of us are actually thinking about this. So what happens? Well, this guy, he's leaning over and he's in there for like four or five minutes and then I'm like I got to check on him. So, hey, I'm like, hey, but take that off your face. I want to see how you're doing. So he, he's kind of like hunched over and he, he looks up and he takes that off his face, sean I know exactly what you saw.
Speaker 1You saw papa, smurf papa smurf.
Speaker 2He goes out of my look. I said dude're blue.
Speaker 1You just turned him into the shmoo, I'm like. His whole face was blue. He didn't know he was going to get a dye job on the plane too.
Speaker 2I looked at Margo Margo, she looks in there. She literally spits out what she's got in her mouth and she starts busting out laughing. This guy, we turned him into a smurf, yeah, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1I mean that has got to be the worst. I can't even imagine, first of all, that blue ink is like this thing is so saturated. Anything that gets wet on this towel and you touch it, even your fingers, turn blue.
Speaker 2I'm sitting there thinking we've got to get this guy's face cleaned. So we're dumping, like vodka, on rags and stuff like that hey, this shit ain't working. Rags and stuff like that hey, this shit ain't working. So, thank God Margo has one of these makeup removing towels.
Speaker 2So she had a couple of them and so we're starting to wipe this guy's face off. So we're getting it off and he's trying to assist by, you know, wiping himself. And then he looks up and he goes. He's got the sick look on his face and he looks up and he goes. Well, how do I look? And I'm like you look like one of them seventies drag Queens, because he has that blue shadow over the top of his eyes. He never got, he never got it on the top, the eye shadows, Eye shadow, this bright blue eye shadow at the top of his eyes, this poor guy.
Speaker 1He's like he's sick and everything, and you guys just made him look worse. I mean even for pale the freaking blueberry.
Speaker 2I was. I was absolutely dying. I was with Margo last night. We were talking about that and I said oh my God, it's one thing I love about our job is we always mess with each other?
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I mean, you know we all make mistakes and we all, freaking, give ourselves shit about the. You know the things that would happen, all this stuff.
Speaker 2I was like Margo, you got one damn job.
Speaker 1But we're also trying to, everybody's trying to do their best and like help people and all that stuff. But I mean just one little wrong move like that grab the wrong towel.
Speaker 2I love those stories though, man. I mean, in our job we have so many fun stories like that, and we're like that with all of our crew. We've known each other for so many years. And and we're like that with all of our crew. We've known each other for so many years. And the one thing about me and Sean we love giving people a bad time for fun. They know we're playing with them. Yeah.
Speaker 1I'm going to tell you right now, when I'm on a plane with G, right now, I'm going to tell you I'm not going to have him give me a cold towel on the plane. He's the last damn person I'm going to ask for assistance man, I'd say the blueberry Smurf-making motherfucker.
Speaker 2I was flying with this other girl and she was leaning over. You know how, when we go arm our doors for departure and we have the GERT bars and I'm over there and I arm my doors, I get everything set and I'm waiting for her and she's over there arming her door and the GERT bar is stuck. She's down there reaching, trying to pull this Gurt Bar out. I'm laughing, wrestling with the Gurt Bar yeah she's wrestling with it.
Speaker 2I'm like, do you want me to help? No, I'm good, I'm good and she's pulling this thing out. She finally gets it out there. She wrestles it out. She could barely get up and I'm like are you kidding me? You're out of breath from doing that. Gert bar girl, you need to get into the gym.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, this is the number one thing we have to do in our job the arm and disarm doors in our job. If you can't do that as a flight attendant, you can't be a flight attendant, right.
Speaker 2So I mean huff to do. It is like I love messing with you. It's so funny. I told her we're gonna have to buy one of them?
Speaker 1damn monitors. You know I've fallen and I can't get up monitors forget her bus, but up from that gurt bar.
Speaker 2I've fallen on a gurt bar and I can't get up. Oh my god, you know it was too funny, but no, going back to us flying with, with margaret's coming in. Uh, it changed the, the, the demographics of our show today because of this. All right so. So last night, when we were coming in, we had an accident incident, and these are one of the things that actually really, really bothers me, these incidents that don't have to happen. We had a passenger that supposedly she was injured by the cart. You know how that happens from someone hanging out in the aisle.
Speaker 2Oh man, let me explain to you. First we had a flight attendant, the guy that was flying with us. He's bigger than both me and you, he's probably 260 easy and that aisle is probably approximately 18 inches wide. We had about half of the plane that was on board, half of it.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was a light flight.
Speaker 2And what it was is that they started taking the cart out. So last night when we came in, we had an incident on the aircraft. It drives me nuts that these passengers, they lean out in the aisle and these things don't have to happen.
Speaker 1Dude, that is like a total freaking pet peeve of mine. I mean, everybody that comes on a the plane, especially, like you got those couples that come on a plane. They got to be on the aisles but they also got to be in the aisle. Yeah, like, they like. Like, they think that aisle is their space, that's our work, sport space, yeah, that's our workspace, that's on the plane. I mean we need to be able to, like, move in on the plane. I mean I can't tell you how many times like, uh, when I gotta get up and down those aisles and I got a freaking emergency or I got something. Man, you're going to hear my freaking military sergeant boys come out.
Speaker 1People are not going to. They're going to be startled when they hear me because I'm coming down and I'm going to be like move.
Speaker 2Move your elbows, your arm board. Imagine this guy, though, sean. He's okay. Like I said, he's bigger than me and you, and he's on the back side of the cart. Well, you know how many times do we make announcements about telling people that we come through the aisles with our cars Over and over.
Speaker 1Man, we're trying to tell people all this stuff, but you know they don't get it. They got their headphones on. Even if they don't have their headphones on, they're not paying attention, Right.
Speaker 2And they're leaning over the aisles and we already know our shoulders hang over. We know that we get bumped every once in a while, we understand that. But anyway, supposedly this woman was laying down because she had a whole row to herself. So she was laying down and she put her head in the aisle. Oh she's smart, put your head.
Speaker 1I just want to emphasize that she's real smart.
Speaker 2Not go the other direction? Where your head would be safe, put it in the aisle.
Speaker 1Yeah, this goes right along with the parent with the baby, sticking the baby's head out in the aisle.
Speaker 2So if this guy's bigger than you, what part of his body do you think is going to hit this woman first?
Speaker 1His ass, his thigh, something like that. He's going to smack her right in the head, not?
Speaker 2the cart, no cart, but anyway they go through. They do the whole service and no one complains about anything. I start from the back, do a beverage service. We're all done and all of a sudden we have an accident incident complaint from this woman that they hit her with the cart.
Speaker 1Of course it couldn't have been his ass or his elbow or anything like that. It had to be the cart.
Speaker 2Yeah, and that she wanted that thing of ice. Now we have protocol at that point.
Speaker 1Yeah, but this also smells of. I want a ticket.
Speaker 2Want something, isn't it Right I?
Speaker 1want something.
Speaker 2But we still have protocol that we've got to follow. Well, she was a little bit irritated at him, so he had asked me if I would go and talk to her, and that's fine. So I went up and talked to her and she kept saying about her head being injured and that that they hit her with the cart. And uh, and I'd ask her. I said well, were you laying down? And she said yes, and I said well, where was your head? And she goes, it was in the aisle. And I said well, why was your head in the aisle If you were sitting up? Because I'm a dumb ass. And she was laying down and supposedly was hit with a cart. Well, we have to at that time. Do you need medical attention and go through that whole thing? And then I said to her you know, we're just going to have paramedics meet the aircraft Right. And at first she was like well, I don't know yet.
Speaker 1No. And I said, no, no, we're just going to have them meet the airplane yeah, when I mean I'm, when I get in those situations the same, I've got the same attitude as you. I mean there is no choice.
Speaker 2They don't have a choice yeah, because if you're, if you're going to say that you were injured on board one of our planes, then we're going to have to get clearance from medical personnel for you to leave the air yeah, we got.
Speaker 1we got to protect our liabilities on the aircraft and that's our job here to protect our passengers, protect us safety of the aircraft in total. So I mean you can't just complain about something and think that you're going to get something without going through the protocols of what you're complaining about.
Speaker 2But you know, the rant isn't this accident because you know that happens. Yeah, the rant isn't this accident because you know that that happens.
Speaker 1yeah, the rant is elbows, shoulders, knees toes, bag straps, heads yeah, get them out of the aisle. Toes, nose, assholes, elbows get out, get them out of the aisle. I mean, come on, you gotta eat people. This is a uh, this is a continuous problem that it's on the plane. Everybody wants to be on the aisle and stuff, and we understand it's tight, you need some space and that's an area to relief and stuff. But the other thing you have to understand is that there's a crew on board that's working and we need to operate up and down aisles, not to mention just the pastures that are just going to the bathroom and back and forth and all this stuff. But if you're going to be in the aisle and you're sticking something out in the aisle and an appendage or whatever, you're going to get hit.
Speaker 2Yeah, keep your laptops in, keep the corners of your laptops, you know, don't have your Mac book sticking halfway out. If you don't want your Mac book clipped, don't, don't stick it out in the aisle.
Speaker 1Dude, I've done that before. I mean I've literally. I broke a screen one time. I'm like coming up the aisle and they got the laptop out in the aisle and it wasn't even the cart that hit it, it was my like let's edge of my pants kind of catch this, the screen, and just flex that thing and snapped it. I mean you just like what do you have this out in the aisle for? Like this is crazy.
Speaker 2They do that all the time and, like I said, and it caused this whole medical situation, that did not have to happen last night. It does not have to happen. You got these guys, they put their knees out there, they put their elbows out there and as soon as they get hit, man, they come unglued and you have this whole situation because you did something, or you hit this, or you were negligent in your job, or you hit this or you were negligent in your job, and you have 18 inches of space and that cart is probably 13 of those 18 inches.
Speaker 1Yeah, unfortunately, this is going to continue to happen. I mean, it happens all over in the airline but in the business I mean. But you know people, you just got to be smart, you got to be also a little bit situationally aware of what's happening around you. And for those frequent flyers out there, most of the time you know they do understand we're coming out of Niles and they are leaning in and out as we go by and all that stuff. But yeah, keep your body parts in. Keep your body parts in.
Flight Attendants Discussing Bankruptcy Impact
Speaker 2Then we don't have to do the paperwork, we don't have to worry about paramedics and we don't have to do the paperwork, we don't have to worry about paramedics and we do not have to have this conversation which we will have again sometime Tomorrow. For you All. Right, man, let's talk about the bankruptcy.
Speaker 1Oh man, I feel for these airlines right now. This airline that's in the news right now, that's just getting ready to go through bankruptcy, just gives me chills of. I like all those flashbacks of all that we went through bankruptcy twice right, it's a big bucket of suck Sean. Yeah, it's a big bucket of suck.
Speaker 2It is, and you do feel for those people.
Speaker 1And it's a suck. That's not going to like go away. It doesn't just happen in one day.
Speaker 2Yeah, you went from. You actually went from being like. You know you're one of the players in the game and now you're the ugly, unwanted stepchild right, you're the ugly, ugly duckling in the sky. Yeah, exactly, I mean, that's exactly what happens to you. I mean because people look at you and it's like, oh yeah, that's the one that's in bankruptcy. Yeah. Yeah, and you feel for those people because we've been there. But you know when you bank, you know when you go through bankruptcy it's basically restructuring your debt.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're restructuring your debt, man, and you've got to figure out a way that you're going to become profitable again and there's all kinds of aspects that's going to be affected. That's in your life. Some of these people right now that are getting ready to go through it or starting it don't even know what's coming.
Speaker 2No, but the airline itself. They cut costs.
Speaker 1Yeah, they cut costs. I mean, one of the first things they started cutting is what Our hotel layovers, right Hotels, go to motels.
Speaker 2See, that's a part of it that, as far as from our point of view, we know.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean from the flight attendant perspective of how it affects a flight attendant during a bankruptcy. You know, our lives, not only away from work, is also the interior to the. Our job is like being affected on on a big basis because, uh, you do you go. We've gone to hotels to now motels. And when we say motels, Overnight. Overnight You're going to, you're laying over in you know nice Marriott's, you know all these Hilton's, whatever. And then all of a sudden, you're now in.
Speaker 2You went from the Hyatt to the Motel 6.
Speaker 1Yeah, the red roof.
Speaker 2Yeah, hojo's.
Speaker 1Yeah, these are the hotels and motel or the motels that you're going to be starting to stay at, and they suck.
Speaker 2Right, we used to have. Well, we had elevators, and now we don't.
Speaker 1Yeah, now we got a bag dragging up the stairs.
Speaker 2And usually those motels there's like two layers. Let's talk about that for a minute. I mean, that was actually because that actually, if you think about it, it's kind of funny now. It wasn't funny then, but it's funny now.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I mean all the aspects of going into a motel. Well, let's talk about this in chronological order. First of all, it's that van driver, the new van driver.
Speaker 2You mean the van when the guy pulls up that he ain't coming out to get your bags.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy that pulls up and stops the car and is just waiting.
Speaker 2Yeah, he might not even open the door. You've got to open your own damn door and put your bags in the back.
Speaker 1And you've got a paper sign written in hand, right, and this is the motel's name.
Speaker 2You get inside there and you're looking for a seatbelt and there ain't no seatbelts, no seatbelts.
Speaker 1You're now in a cargo van. You went from a nice hotel van to a cargo van.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is, it is uh you you know the quality of everything in your whole entire life, just like that lowered. And okay, the the keys. You don't have to go to the front desk because they already got them in the van, they just got them into some cup and they hand them back to you?
Speaker 1yeah, you know, they know they'd have real keys too. I mean a metal key, like in today's world you don't see metal keys, but in motel world you might see a metal key. Well, we didn't have to worry about going to the front desk because they would just drop us off at the staircase Right At the back of the lot of the staircase in the back of a motel, the most safest place in a motel.
Speaker 2You go back there and first thing you do is start looking around making sure that there ain't any unsavory characters out in the parking lot.
Speaker 1You're like you get off that van and you're like, oh shit, oh shit. I mean you know there's been a homicide back there somewhere.
Speaker 2So then we got to do that bag, drag up the stairs.
Speaker 1Right. So then we get that at room and then you know, now it's like that safety thing, everything shifts, right. So, like our safety awareness, our situational awareness is like on high alert, right, we get to our rooms, we stop at a room, you open your key lock, you open that room and what do we do? Put our bag in the door. Yeah, you're like putting the bag in the door and now we're like we gotta like sweep the room.
Speaker 2You're going in there like kicking, like you're a freaking marine clear well, if we were traveling with, if we were traveling with, uh, females, we would always put our bag in and we go with them over by their room and make sure that their room was clear.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean we literally walked through the rooms, checked, I mean, opened the curtains of the freaking shower, looked under the bed like everything.
Speaker 2It was like, it was a total, like different. You wanted to make sure there was no real boogeyman underneath that bed.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, it's a different process.
Speaker 2You just because it's not a nice area, they just put you in nope and then you go inside, right?
Speaker 1the, the joy of the room. Oh, they're so special let's start off with.
Speaker 2Let's start off with uh well, we're going to check the bathroom oh nasty dude just to make sure that that they cleaned it yeah, first of all.
Speaker 1First of all, i't think you tell me this. Have you ever taken a bath in a bathroom in any hotel or motel?
Speaker 2Have you ever went into a motel and not seen another hair? It's so nasty. If you'd just seen one, you'd be like, okay, it's pretty clean.
Hotel Room Inspection and Airline Struggles
Speaker 1Yeah, I haven't been into a motel in many, many years, but I'm going to tell you they're not clean All right, then you know you're heading to the bed. And then, yeah, the bed check and you're pulling down the freaking sheets and the blankets and you're looking at it and you're pulling out the freaking corners, you're looking at the bed bug check.
Speaker 2Well, you first look to make sure that they put actually clean sheets.
Speaker 1Are there clean sheets on the bed? Are the pillows actually doesn't have stain from somebody from yesterday?
Speaker 2Okay, this was bad. I have to tell you this because I just thought about this. This is the worst feeling in the world. I got to tell you this one. All right, I was laying in that bed and this, this we're going to come back to that but I was laying in the bed and you know, when you're laying there and I can feel something in the bottom.
Speaker 1Yeah, like in the bed, mm-hmm. No, it was bad, dude, it was bad. What'd you feel? First of all, you shouldn't be feeling anything other than you in the bed.
Speaker 2Well, you're hoping it was just a towel, right, and it wasn't.
Speaker 1What? This is what we. This is like in between the sheets with you, it was under the sheets.
Speaker 2All right, they were. They was under pants. They were underpants. No, it was the worst.
Speaker 1That is some skanky-ass nasty shit right there.
Speaker 2And I wish I could tell you it wasn't the truth, but it was god-awful.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's different when you wake up in the morning and there's some panties there and you're like what happened last night. But after, when you first get into the bed, that's a whole different situation.
Speaker 2So go back to the bed bugs. I had to interject on that one because in the motels it was the nastiest incident that I ever had in my life, that is so nasty.
Speaker 1I mean, you know, but I mean checking back to checking the beds. I mean the whole situation of, like the united states just went through that whole like I don't know if you remember this like it's in the last 10, 15 years where bed bugs started being talked about. I mean there was a time where that wasn't even a subject. I mean it was just a nursery rhyme to me. You know, don't let the bed bugs bite, and all that stuff right. And then all of a sudden, like this wave plague came over all the hotels, motels, everything didn't matter how fancy the hotel, bug bag bugs was everywhere biting the shit out of you yeah, it was nasty, dude.
Speaker 1I had this situation where I was on a layover and this is my first like encounter with bed bugs. Thank god it wasn't me. But I get down to the van and my crew member and she's like she's like I had a horrible night. She's like I got and my crew member and she's like she's like I had a horrible night. She's like I got bitten by bedbugs. And she like pulls down like her neck and it was like as if they were like bedbugs, freaking vampires, like they bit her and there was like spots all over her. I was like I mean I was getting the willies right there. I mean it was. It was so nasty. I was like what'd you do? She was like I went down to management and they were like are you sure? And she had taken pictures of the damn bugs. It was so freaking gross. I was like I'm not doing this layover ever again.
Speaker 2Done. Well, you didn't have a choice back then because of the motels. We were back in those little rinky-dink regal, regal sixes or whatever those things were but the the word. Another thing is is when you got into the bed though.
Speaker 1Right uh, you don't like that divot? Yeah, those high quality mattresses that we got in there, the little uh beds with no springs in the center or or the the pillows, that they're all balled up in there when you or flat the ones that were like paper, thin flat, like like they had somebody had like removed all the down out of it or you looked over in the air conditioning unit in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2It's the thermostats either stuck on hot or cold.
Speaker 1You're either sweating your butt off or you're freezing yeah, or you're getting freaking uh sinus infection of all the mold being shot out in the room on you.
Speaker 2How about the looky-loos in the middle? You had to make sure that you took your curtain and you clipped it shut because it was outside and there was always people walking by and looking inside of your room.
Speaker 1Yeah, we didn't have rooms with views. Rooms with hallways is what we had, and peeping toms.
Speaker 2You'd leave early in the morning and, instead of opening your door, you'd open the curtains and look outside and make sure there wasn't somebody out there.
Speaker 1Yeah, you'd look both ways, like look at who's out there, Like the door peephole was not good enough.
Speaker 2You have to go down there and you have to walk down to the front desk and back to this ugly old van again. I mean that was just dealing from the hotels to the motels.
Speaker 1Zero, zero missed that situation. I totally feel for my fellow crew members that are getting ready to go through some of that.
Speaker 2I hope they do not have to go through that. But you know something else that we dealt with. We went from the business class airline to what?
Speaker 1Last class dude man Freaking hood.
Speaker 2Cattle class man.
Speaker 1Cattle class.
Speaker 2Cattle movers, I mean anybody that wanted to pay to get on a plane. We were taking them.
Speaker 1Dude. I mean we were getting like $25 tickets. I mean it's like come on, are you kidding me? It gets bad.
Speaker 2How do you emerge from bankruptcy when your tickets are like $25?
Speaker 1Yeah, I have no idea. How do you get a plan like that? Hey, we're going to sell $25 tickets.
Speaker 2How about the leaders, the leaders.
Speaker 1Yeah, we go from cans to like nuts. They're like wanting us to pour cups of soda, not, they're like oneness to pour cups of soda, then they. Then they're like okay, you're not, we're not giving you cans at all, we're just going to give you two liter bottles but you know, I was waiting for the, the leader one, to just show up.
Speaker 2It says soda. Yeah, you know what I mean. Not even coke, it just says soda yeah, the generic brands everywhere is unbelievable.
Speaker 1Yeah, that that's that. These are all things that happen in bankruptcy. I mean, you're gonna, you're, you're to be impacted on every level of your service in your plane is going to change. The clientele in your plane is going to change. Your layover is going to change. It's nasty. Not only that, your paycheck is going to change right?
Speaker 2Oh yeah, especially if you get a concessionary thrown at you.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean most of the airlines now are unionized, but you have to make these concessionary cuts and try to keep the plane afloat, the airline afloat. It's rough.
Speaker 2You got to remember when we were going through it, we wondered if we had a job.
Speaker 1Man every day. I was really like I was praying, like I I gotta do my part to keep this going because I want my job. You know I liked it so much and everything, but I was like you know what we had done and you know, for our fellow flight attendants and crew members that are out there listening to our show, I mean it's, it's not what you did. It's not what you did, it's just the overall. You know, this is the leadership and business model problem, not your problem. You, you're, you're the, you're the solution. You're the person that's going to go out there and you're going to pick the. You take your attitude on the plane and you're going to pick yourself up and you're going to make it the best experience, no matter what, what situation.
Speaker 2And you're going to hear those dumb comments that somebody comes on a plane and goes. You know, are you going to be in business whenever I go home? Are you going to worry about, uh, you know, not getting home because you guys go out of business? You're going to. You're going to hear those dumb comments. We heard them all the time.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, it's going to hurt your pride, it's. You're going to. You're going to be um less prideful for your airline. You for, but you know what you got to set that aside, you got to just keep doing what you do and make the best out of it in that day. Not to mention that, what about one aspect of this whole thing contract maintenance.
Speaker 2Contract maintenance. That's a completely other story. You get in these little outstations back then and you'd have a maintenance problem. They'd have to call this guy in from home.
Speaker 1Oh, dude, it's a nightmare. So contract maintenance for all of the people that are listening that don't understand what we're talking about it's when an airline parks at a station or an airport that they don't have their own maintenance and when you don't have your own maintenance you have to get a third, another airlines maintenance or a third party maintenance that comes in and says, hey, the fix your plane. But I mean when you're in bankruptcy guess what number you're on the list to get contract maintenance to come fix your plane behind the last person.
Speaker 2You were actually behind the last person.
Speaker 1Yeah, in fact, while you're in line, there's going to be people who are going to jump in line in front of you. As it goes, it's a bad situation.
Speaker 2Because they know if you're not paying the bills then they definitely ain't fixing your plane.
Speaker 1Yeah, I remember when we were in bankruptcy the pilots would come in and we were like, oh, we got a maintenance problem with you guys. And unfortunately, unfortunately it's contract maintenance and we would be like as soon as you heard as soon as you heard contract maintenance and also we were like okay, we're going to hotel, we gotta call a company, let's go, we gotta go to a hotel.
Speaker 2I mean that's crazy, you mean motel, yeah motel? There wasn't no hotel back then it was a motel, yeah. The other aspect about that motel yeah, motel, there wasn't no hotel back then, it was a motel.
Speaker 1Yeah, the other aspect about that motel and like calling to the motel, you know it was like you know how many times did we get to a motel and they were like we don't got rooms for you.
Speaker 2That was a nightmare. You'd sit there and you're like looking at each other. You have no place to stay.
Speaker 1Yeah, because crew crew member is always like how we operate is you know, we walk into a hotel, motel and we have a sign-in sheet that we sign our names and they build the company for that room and that's how we operate. We're not paying for our rooms every night or anything like that. This is not, like you know, private airlines and stuff like that they do things like that. But as far as major airlines and stuff like that, we just sign a paper and go and the credibility of the airline and the bankruptcy it gets really, really bad. At certain times I had situations where we got there and we had to do what? Gee? We had to go back to the airport. It sucks, man, to get on another van to go to another motel that they paid the bill. That one didn't know if they would pay or not, but they trusted them enough to give us room for that night.
Speaker 2It really is, man. It's just horrible. But you know real quick. What do you think about the pools at those motels? Oh, dude, I always laughed at those.
Speaker 1What did you think about the pools at those motels? Oh, dude, I always laughed at those. Hey, you know, when Chuck Driver Bill is out there with his belly in his beer, hell no the water wasn't even clear.
Speaker 2It was like cloudy. The water was murky and cloudy. It was some nasty cloudy. You can't see the bottom of it.
Speaker 1There's all kinds of bugs and filthiness on top of the water. No, that ain't my scene, anyways, as far as a pool, I'm not a big pool guy hanging out at the pool, but yeah, I mean, I'm not touching a motel pool at all.
Speaker 2But anyway, listen, look, we feel for you guys and the only reason that we were laughing about it is because we actually had to find humor in that situation, because it's not a good situation and we do feel for you. I can't say anything but good things about your airline, because I've flown on you and you guys the flight attendants were amazing. You guys were super nice, positive things. I hope that it all turns out well for you. I hope that you guys come back stronger and everything does work out well. But, like I said, it does suck and we feel for you. We look forward to seeing you on our planes, because we actually fly on each other and we appreciate that and you guys take care of yourself. But, sean, what about the destination this week?
Speaker 1Destination. This week, man, we're headed to Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2That's state capital.
Speaker 1State capital. Man, here's another destination of the state capitals. Like I've said so many times, man, when you have the opportunity to get out onto a destination and explore the state capitals, there's so much cool history with each state capital. I mean, there's just some cool stuff that I've seen in state capitals. Is this something you do? G? What? Just some cool stuff that I've seen in state capitals? Is this something you do? G? Go over to the state capitals and walk into them. How many times have you done it? Be honest, how many times have you really done it?
Speaker 2Well, I've seen them actually go inside of them Very few.
Speaker 1Very few. Yeah, now I go inside of them because most state capitals if you don't know this they have free tours, free history tours. They're going on two every I think, two, three times, four times an hour because, guess what, there's park rangers in the state capitals, because those are public buildings that are owned by the public and so there's park rangers going there to tell you all the history and give you tours of capital. Sometimes you can go in them and you could see, like, um, you know, actually legislation and things and happening inside the state capitals. That's cool, you guys should go. Man, my big routine is, if I'm there and I don't got any big agenda and I got some time on my hand to go see it, I grab myself a sandwich, go have lunch, do whatever, go up to the state capitol, check it out. I mean, you're only up there for an hour or two or whatever, but it's just a cool, cool experience and there's lots of cool history with state capitals. There's a lot of little nuances that you don't know about in state capitals.
Speaker 2Well, you know how much I love to learn about history anyway, so I'd have to agree with you there.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, one of my favorite state capitals is freaking Texas man. I mean, texas has their capital, believe it or not. They took the whole entire capital building, they lifted it up and then they build a whole entire underground capital building underneath it in the ground. Wow, there's an entire, I mean the whole entire. It's a gigantic building bigger than the capital building underneath the building and they never moved the building when they were building it. That's pretty cool craziness that is.
Speaker 1Yeah, but you can go through all that stuff and then you just don't know that stuff is there, um, but Madison's a cool another cool capital to visit. The other thing that's there is the university of Wisconsin and, um, the the campus is right there, um, and you can go down and walk to the campus and you know, just like all the other universities and stuff out there, it's a beautiful, beautiful campus, but in the spring, summer I wouldn't recommend the winter time up there walking through the campus but connecting from the state Capitol. What Madison does have is they have a street that goes it's called State Street. It goes from the Capitol footsteps of the Capitol straight to Madison wisconsin's university, uh, campus, and that street, on that street, has nothing but bars and restaurants. Bars and restaurants, I mean it is like I don't know how I want to say like 11, 15 blocks, I mean it's it's a long you know walk, but just all kinds of food activities. Everything you can. Anything you can. Anything you can breweries everywhere. Do you like breweries and microbreweries? Madison, wisconsin.
Speaker 2Now, what's the name of that? The lake that I know Otis Redding his plane crashed in it. What was that?
Speaker 1Mendota.
Speaker 2Mendota.
Speaker 1Yeah, mendota Lake. So, otis Redding, yeah, his plane crashed on there. He died on that lake and everything. He was not sitting on the dock of the bay, he was sitting in the middle of the lake, that's a bad joke.
Speaker 2That's a bad joke.
Speaker 1That's a bad Otis Redding joke yeah man, but you got to do what you got to do Anyhow. No, the lake is beautiful there. That's a bad owner's writing joke.
Speaker 2yeah, man, but you gotta do what you gotta do anyhow no, the lake is beautiful there.
Speaker 1That lake, that's right there. Uh, in madison you can actually go around the entire lake. There's a path that you can walk. You can run it, walk it. It goes right through the campus, the university of wisconsin. It goes all through around the lake. It's just a beautiful, beautiful place up there. And if you're up there in the seasons where you can't walk around and all that stuff, I mean highly recommend Just get out and explore Madison. It's a cool place.
Speaker 2Very cool. Madison, wisconsin. All right, folks, this is for our friends at the other airlines that had entered bankruptcy. Uh, just wanted to end to end with this. Uh, quote for you guys just remember, this shall pass. We've been through it. This shall pass.
Navigating Bankruptcy Struggles
Speaker 1Now it might pass like a kidney stone, but it'll pass, trust me I'm gonna tell you right now, man, if it's like a kidney stone, you don't want it. I've had those things twice and there is no Son of a bitch.
Speaker 2Well, this old podcast was about how bankruptcy sucks. So you know there's nothing easy about bankruptcy. But it'll pass. You guys will make it through it.
Speaker 1There's a little pain involved with it.
Speaker 2You'll be back in the game. We're going to get through it. We just want to put our big shout-outs for you guys. You guys take care of yourself and everyone else Take care of yourself. Fly safe, had a great time today. It was fun talking. Yeah, we'll see you next time here, next time on Cabin Pressure See you guys.
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