Winglets Are Just Appetizers? | Aviation Debate

A tiny bend at the tip of a wing can save an airline millions—and we break down exactly how. We kick things off by decoding winglets in simple terms: less induced drag, more lift efficiency, lower fuel burn, and a fast payback that compounds across a fleet for decades. It’s the rare aviation upgrade that blends elegant aerodynamics with bottom-line impact, turning a “small” change into a massive win.

Then we shift altitude and head to Dubai, where a planned layover stretched into 52 hours of discovery. Think hand-pulled noodles in a sprawling food court, Middle Eastern comfort plates with jasmine rice, and a mall so large it makes the Mall of America look quaint. We talk traffic that humbles U.S. cities, architecture that begs for a camera, and strict rules that shape everyday behavior. The contrast is sharp: fewer petty crimes, clearer enforcement, and a different tone around public safety that travelers need to understand.

On the crew side, we get practical about long-haul life: three service waves, bunk rest blocks, and why eastbound trips can feel like back-to-back red-eyes. We share jet lag tactics, the rhythm of 14+ hour flights, and how consistency beats bravado. Back home, winter has its own turbulence—salt-stained cars, futile washes, and the ritual of spring deep cleans. Even the news cycle sneaks aboard: a drone scare near El Paso that temporarily shut down airspace shows how quickly small threats ripple through schedules and lives.

Of course, we keep it fun: the Applebee’s debate you didn’t know you needed, the hot-dog-as-sandwich standoff, and a traveler who printed a banner-sized boarding pass just to see if TSA would scan it. We end on a line we believe in: the comeback is always stronger than the setback—once you decide it is.

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Transcript

Applebee’s Rant And Chain Food Debate

Shawn 0:00

What the hell is a winglet? Sounds like an appetizer at Applebee's.

G 0:14

Are you talking about boneless? Hell no, I'm not talking about boneless. You just had Applebee's. Applebee's. I like Applebee's.

Shawn 0:22

I hate Applebee's. Why? Did you know that there was an Applebee's in Dubai? In Dubai? Yeah.

G 0:32

I was like, one in Wadsworth, too.

Shawn 0:34

Yeah, that's crazy.

G 0:36

Why don't you like Applebee's?

Shawn 0:38

Oh, dude. We will get into that.

G 0:39

No, we're gonna get into it right now. You brought it up. We're getting into it. Why don't you like Applebee's? Because it's like a it's the same store as Fridays. Yeah, it's the same damn restaurant as a Fridays, as the Applebee's, as a Chili's, as they're all changed. They're all the same store with different names.

Shawn 0:57

Okay, so still, why don't you because it's garbage food. So you okay. It's garbage food. Oh, you don't like you don't like the little specials that they dude?

G 1:06

I don't like any of it. Uh what you know what I do like? Baby back, baby back, baby back. I like the baby back, baby back.

Speaker 1 1:14

I like I like the jingle. Oh.

Shawn 1:18

Baby back . See, I like I like the they have those little taco things.

Speaker 1 1:24

See, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Shawn 1:26

They have happy hour.

G 1:27

Yeah, I don't go to Applebee's. Applebee's happy hour. Dude, the only time I would ever go to Applebee's is like like we're a crew, and then everybody crews like, oh, we're gonna let's go over to Applebee's and we'll get some drinks or whatever. But I'd go then.

Shawn 1:38

You shruggingly go.

G 1:40

But yeah, I would struggling go. But like literally, I'm like, that is not where it's junk food. I hate it. I hate it. I I still like Applebee's. That's the problem. That is the problem with America today.

Speaker 1 1:52

Did you not? Did you not hear of what the f you're talking about? The problem Applebee's is the problem with America. Processed food company nothing but processed bullshit. You know, you know I say I like a little taco. People talk to me. Beer bread, little dip and sauce.

G 2:11

You don't like any of that, dude. No, it's not that I don't like it, it's the problem that's why I got this big ass belly. That's the problem. I gotta stay away from those chain processed food. Well, you must have gone there, dude. Probably more than I needed to.

What A Winglet Actually Does

Shawn 2:26

But a winglet isn't in an apple. A winglet is not apple. Hell no.

G 2:30

That's not what we're talking about whatsoever. Winglets and damn little curvature things at the end of the wings. At the end of the wings. And what are winglets used for? And why did they show up all of a sudden?

Shawn 2:42

I don't know. What it was for? No, I do. I don't know what winglets used for. You gotta be careful. You think about, first of all, think about the person that actually made the winglet first. Right? You know that this is some big bang Sheldon individual.

G 2:56

Big bang Sheldon. Probably some big old nerds, the big bang thing. Yeah. Bunch of geeks sitting around, all be like, hey, how can we get some more money out of these airlines?

Shawn 3:06

You know the shit was an accident, right? He's like, let's just bend, let's just bend that shit upwards.

G 3:11

Yeah. Right? They started, oh, actually, they dropped a little toy plane and it bent.

Shawn 3:18

Anyway, these winglets, they're attached to the ends of the wings, and there's there's two of them. There's small sections attached to the ends of these wings.

G 3:26

Right.

Shawn 3:27

What are they used for? You tell me.

G 3:29

The reason why that it's that it's more fuel efficient, makes the plane more fuel efficient when they're traveling. Actually, it saves on fuel. That little tiny curvature gives the plane that much more lift in order to get through the air easier and all that stuff.

Shawn 3:47

So the the that again, going back to that one Sheldon, he sat in that room just developing that little bitty thing. But that little bitty thing for an airline is crazy when it comes to how much money is saved in.

G 4:00

Oh yeah, it's insane how much money.

Shawn 4:03

Those things are are like a million dollars for the pair.

G 4:06

Oh, yeah.

Shawn 4:07

So you got a million bucks. Now, supposedly they pay for themselves within one to two years. That's a pretty damn good return.

G 4:14

That's good because the plane's gonna like last like 30.

Shawn 4:18

25, 30 years. Yeah. So you figure 25, 30 years fuel efficiency on that aircraft, you're getting about 13 million. Probably and that's probably being that's probably being kind of cheap, but 13 million savings.

G 4:34

Right.

Shawn 4:34

For for an aircraft.

G 4:36

Yeah, it's just gonna, you know, more money into the airline pocket.

Shawn 4:39

But think about that when you're talking about when you're talking about like a legacy carrier.

G 4:43

Right.

Shawn 4:44

Legacy carrier on all those aircrafts. Sure. I mean, you're talking, you're probably talking some. Billions. Yeah, between 10 to 13 billion dollars.

G 4:56

Yeah, yeah. Billions. There be the uh the fuel efficiency and cost, I mean, like everything, first of all, like everything in the world, right? Our cars, the planes, everything, we're all trying to get it more fuel efficient. So any idea that the they come up with with this like the winglets and all that stuff, like it's it's a it's a big deal when you could save money and you see that the in cost over the life of this. Like if today somebody came in and said, Hey, this nerd down the street, he found out uh he wrecked his car, but it has this tail coming off of it, and my car went from 25 miles per gallon to 50. Everybody would be getting that fucking tail, right? Oh, yeah. Like we get like just to like save on the fuel because you had that shit. Right. It's like, so that's what you know, that's what winglet's all about saving fuel. So it's not Applebee's. No, still like the Applebee's. I don't like Applebee's.

Shawn 5:54

So, dude, you you you just got your ass back from Dubai.

Fuel Savings And Airline Economics

G 5:57

Yeah, dude, it this is like it was um I got a lot of questions. So, you know, like like like you like you, you had that you had long ass multiple-day trip, went awry and stuff. We talked about that in past episodes. Dubai didn't go awry, it just became a longer trip. So we got that call, you know, where they're scheduling, like it's like giving you all these like change of pairing, change of pairing, change of pair. I think they changed it four four times on me. And it to get it because there was a cancellation and the plane couldn't come in because they had a mechanical. So I ended up being in, I was it was supposed to be like uh 29 hours in Dubai, ended up being 52 hours in Dubai, which was awesome.

Shawn 6:42

Yeah, I I I was sitting there, I was thinking, what the hell is he doing?

G 6:46

80 plus degrees. Yeah, I was doing everything and anything I could possibly do, man. It was unbelievable. Dubai had like uh, first of all, it's the place is so rich.

Shawn 6:55

Yeah, it's okay, Hollywood version. So does it have the cop cars that are Ferraris, the Lambos?

G 7:01

I didn't see any cop cars in Dubai at all. Like it was like like I will tell you, they had lots of expensive cars, but I didn't see like I you would think that they would have saw like the Lamborghinis and the Ferraris and all that stuff. You saw more like um, you know, like Land Rovers and uh like Mercedes and G Wagon.

Shawn 7:23

Like Fast and Furious where they were like those high-end cars.

G 7:26

No, no, like the G-Wagons are high-end car.

Shawn 7:28

Well, yeah, but I mean they they they were talking about like real high performance cars.

G 7:32

Yeah, they were talking about high performance cars. Yeah, yeah. So I guess, and I found out here that's a little tidbit because I went on a tour of one of the mosques there. The um we had a drive over to Abu Dhabi, which is like driving over to another state. Like a lot of people don't understand, I didn't understand like what's the seven, you know, uh, emirates and all this stuff and Dubai and what what's making up of that? It's like seven different, you know, families came together, these kingdoms came together, and then became seven different states and all this stuff, and there's all these sheik's that run this, and the most rich is sheik is the one in Dubai, because he's the one with all the oil, right? Right? So, anyhow, they used to not have speed limits.

Shawn 8:14

So I was looking at the cause another thing I was worried, I was wondering with the speed limit.

G 8:19

Yeah, okay. They used to not have speed limits at all.

Shawn 8:21

So, but now they're like, is it did I see it right? Was like up to a hundred kilometers.

G 8:27

Kilometers. Yeah, so when you do those, it's like 60 miles per hour. Like you know, it's like it's not it's not anything crazy and stuff.

Shawn 8:33

So you don't need a Lambo, they're chasing me down in six. But here, but here's the fucking thing.

G 8:37

Yeah, you don't need a Lambo, you don't need any of that stuff. Yeah, like they're not going crazy for the colour. There goes that image right outside. The traffic is insane, like you dude, like Cleveland here, joke. That would be a side street. So, okay, any camels on the roads? No, dude. That that and that's funny that you say that too. Like, so there's animals there's like antelopes and uh gazelle and things like that, and camels that are running wild there, right? Yeah, and so we I got to see some gazelles and antelope and stuff like that, but I didn't see any camels. Well, part of the crew went out and did an excursion. They did they rode a camel, but I I wasn't had no interest in getting my fat ass on a camel's back.

Shawn 9:16

There's Dubai. I mean, Dubai has like that Hollywood flair, right? I mean, you you you think you're gonna see like tigers and shit. I was like, You're gonna send back a picture of a tiger.

G 9:26

Yeah, no, no tiger. No, no. You know what Dubai is all about? All about construction and growth.

Shawn 9:33

Now they they talk about the buildings, right?

G 9:34

The buildings are unbelievable. Next week I'm going back and I'm bringing my camera, and all I'm gonna do is go around and do some architectural photography because the there are hundreds of buildings. You just can't imagine. Like, like New York has a lot of buildings, right? Abu Dhabi is getting into the size of like a New York size type of thing, where it's like even gonna get bigger.

Shawn 9:57

Skyscrapers are don't they have the biggest one in the world?

G 10:00

Oh, yeah, the biggest one in the world is right there at the uh uh Dubai Mall. Yeah, the Dubai Mall. So check this out three stories, and you know you've been to a mall of America because we've party in Mar of America's, right? Yeah, yeah. Like it has five stories in Mall of America's, we run all this stuff. Okay, let me give you throw a stat to you. The Dubai Mall. Okay, Mall of America is 5.6 million feet square feet. Square feet. Yeah, okay. Dubai mall, 12.1 million square feet.

Shawn 10:35

What what the hell do you got in there?

G 10:38

Dude, I only okay I only saw pieces of it because it was so big. That's not the one though that has does it have the skiing. Is that is that no, there's so skiing is another building that's in Dubai. They got indoor skiing. They have an indoor skiing. Well, you have to do it in a desert.

Shawn 10:57

I understand.

Speaker 1 10:58

Yeah, but seriously, though.

Dubai Detour And First Impressions

G 11:00

Yeah, we passed that on the way to when we went to see the mosque uh in uh Abu Dhabi. But um, this mall is so big. I mean, there's five major food courts in there. There's there's numerous hundreds and hundreds of stores. Sections of it is like dedicated, like one entire section on a floor would be nothing but electronic store after electronics. Every brand you could think of had electronic store in there. And you know how like Mall America, you go in there and there's these repeat stores? Right. Never once did I see a repeat store.

Shawn 11:34

But what about prices though? Is it is it like here? Is it similar, or is it? I mean, you'd think it'd be outrageous.

G 11:40

It's it is it is it's expensive. Is it like yeah? I don't think there's like deals, like so. You know, what did you pay for?

Shawn 11:47

Give me an example. It's something you paid for.

G 11:50

Food.

Shawn 11:50

I know that, but what? I mean, I knew food was coming.

G 11:53

I paid for a lot of food, a lot of good food. All right, like that's one thing there in like in in Dubai. There's so much food, like every type of culture of food you can want. Like I was saying, there's Applebee's there.

Shawn 12:07

Like going down a road like we already got to the point that you you didn't stop at Applebee's in Dubai.

G 12:12

The truck stop. What the hell did you eat? Popeyes, Burger King. I was like, Am I in Dubai or am I in America?

Shawn 12:20

I'm like, You still didn't say what you ate.

G 12:23

Yeah, so I had the first thing I ate there was I went and got this like Lebanese Turkish food, which was all this like stewed meats and jasmine basani rice and all that stuff. So good. That was the first night we got in there and boom, right out. We went. But then the next day I went to Mall America. Oh no, Mall America. Got it on the brain now. Yeah. I went to Dubai Mall. And I started to go there and I hit this place, Chinatown. And they had a place there, you know, it's just like a normal food court, like in America, right? Where there's like I don't know, those little teeny shops everywhere. But like this food court had uh maybe there were like 20 different ones that were in this one section. But they had a one where they were like literally the dough was on the table. The guy would grab a thing of dough, he'd start pulling the dough, and he'd flip it and pull it and flip it and pull it and flip it. And he started doing it faster and faster. All of a sudden, he had like nothing but a string of spaghetti, like all the spaghetti pulled, and then he'd throw these in it, and you had fresh noodles. It was to die for.

Shawn 13:24

So, what else did you eat? Because I there's no way knowing you, you ate all kinds of different shit.

G 13:29

So, yeah, we went there. Next thing uh we went to a Middle Eastern place for when we got extended. I mean, the food just like there was you couldn't get bad food there. Didn't matter what food you're gonna get there. I bet you the Applebee was phenomenal. It probably had my little tacos, you did. Yeah, they were later. There was probably some Middle Eastern dudes knocking on some tacos at Applebee for sure. But, anyways, no, it was just it's insane. And so, you know, the world's tallest building is attached right to the mall, and there's a pool in front of that between the building and the mall that is like the Bellagio, you know, the uh the fountains? Yeah, times 10. Really? That's I mean, that's how big these things are. It's like you're just like it's mind-blowing your life.

Shawn 14:18

Yeah, everything's up scale. But that's what you see in the movies, though, too. I mean, when you when you think of Dubai, or you you know, you're you're thinking these things are like take New York and then multiply it times 10.

G 14:30

Yeah, it just everything was just like money and everything was like the mall was just over the top, like every the does the designs and the stores and every country's crazy there's fashion dude. Anything you want to buy is there, but it's not a deal. That's uh that's what like you're getting at like like how much did it cost? Like things cost the same as it did here, you know.

Shawn 14:53

Because it's all shipped in.

G 14:55

Yeah, it's still not all of it is, but I mean, just like there were certain things, you know, each country, like Dubai chocolates, you can get a good deal on that, but you know, things like that. But most of most of the stuff was average cost, but the dollar goes a long way there because you know, I think what is it, denari there or whatever. They uh and I probably even said it. I don't even know what the name of the jacked that up. Yeah, I jacked that up. I don't know what their money is, but the the we're gonna find money out, but that probably wasn't it. The Dubai money, we're like it's only worth Dubai money is only worth 27 cents of a dollar. Really? So their dollar is only 27 cents. So our dollar goes a long way, but they jacked your prices up to kind of match our like level. So we you do the you know, the the food was the food was pr relatively cheap and all that stuff, but you know, when you're about buying stuff or stuff like that, it was you know, it was average.

Shawn 15:46

All right, so what else do you see?

Malls, Skylines, And Indoor Skiing

G 15:47

But anyways, um other things that we saw, man, there was um the uh we found out about you were talking about cars. Yeah. So check this out. You know how we, you know, each state here in the United States, we pay for license license plates. Like you go to California, a license plate in California is really expensive because they tax you like when you buy your car, it's the tax of when you're buying the car is on the license plates. That's when you pay it. Like in Ohio here, you know, we pay our taxes for the car when we buy the car, we only pay a state fee for our license plate, so it's cheap, right? Over there, they have uh state ran plates, and the plates are numbered starting with one. And the number one is the sheik's car. Number two is the sheik's son. Number three is another part of the family, like the first five or something like that is like the sheik's family. Right after that, it's publicly auctioned the plates. The last plate, number seven, that went on public auction. How much was it? I have no clue. Take a guess. Five million. I know I was seven million. I was gonna go high. And and so the plates that as they go down the numbers and they get to like single digits, double digits, and they, you know, right. The double digit plates are all millions of dollars for those plates, and then you own that plate for life. But they don't have any taxes there either, right?

Shawn 17:15

They don't pay any taxes there. I don't know. I really didn't pay attention to that. I don't think they I don't think they pay any taxes because that's I mean, everything else is more expensive, but I don't think they pay any taxes.

G 17:25

Yeah, I didn't I didn't really pay attention to the like the if there was taxes and stuff like that on there. Yeah. Because uh it was it it was like there's just just so much to do. But we I decided that I I had never been to a mosque, so I did a tour with two other flight attendants, and we went to Abu Dhabi and we went to the third largest mosque in the world. Wow.

Shawn 17:44

Did you do you have do you have any video?

G 17:47

I do have video, I got pictures of videos. I'll post it.

Shawn 17:50

I'll catch you on that one.

G 17:51

Yeah, no, no, no, I got I got I got it all, buddy.

Shawn 17:54

I was gonna catch you on that one because you always give me shit every time.

G 17:57

Oh no, no. I got I got pictures, I got hundreds of pictures and video, right? Yeah, because I was I even got pictures videos of the like pieces of the mall. I'm gonna try to collage them together and stuff like that. But it it is the whole point, the whole experience was cool. Um, the hotel, hotel's really nice. Our hotel that we lay over in. We stayed the Marriott downtown. But you know what was really crazy at the Marriott? Like, I've been to a lot of Marriottes. You've been to a lot of Marriott's all over the world, right? Yeah. This lobby every night, you always see some hoes. There was hoes.

Shawn 18:34

Out of everything, right?

G 18:35

Russian hoes. Out of everything, hoes. Russian girls be showing up out of the road. You see big tits, booty, running around, Kim Kardashian, little look lights, run around, and you're like, oh no, that ain't just a guest.

Shawn 18:48

Now, are those la are the lobbies laid out?

G 18:52

I mean, I usually the hotels are like they're they're nice, but they're not like over the top. The one, I mean, this I'm only talking about our hotel we stayed at. It's not like over the top, like you would think, like massive chandeliers or you know, like wild stuff like that. Right. It wasn't like that. It just was a nice hotel. Filled with hoes. Had hoes.

Shawn 19:15

How did I know something with you?

Speaker 1 19:18

I'm just saying what I was.

G 19:19

It's gonna be a little different. I'm saying what I saw.

Shawn 19:22

A little different. Abu Dhabi host. Yeah, Abdhabi host. You say that like three times fast. Where are you from? Abdabi ho.

G 19:35

Yeah, dude. But uh, it was it was a it was uh it's a crazy trip because uh we left from New York, so you know, flying there, what it's uh 13 hours flying there and coming back. I just got back literally minutes ago, it seems like. Uh and it was 14 hours and 45 minutes flight time.

Shawn 19:57

Now how much of a nap do you get? Five hours. Five hours. That's like a layover for domestic.

G 20:05

I was in the I was in the bunks for five hours, dude. It was it was unbelievable. But you know what I found out too, like going east, like flying east, going to like Europe and going to like the Middle East and anywhere, just going east, like the time zone. That's we're back to that, like having jet lag and how you handle your sleep cycle and all that stuff. Like, it's tough. It's more tough because we're flying all the flights going that way. You have to fly red eyes in as far as our body on the east coast of the United States. You know, it's all feels like a red eye both ways, and you know, we used to do red eyes all the time.

Shawn 20:38

Yeah. So how is the service like in flight? Same. I mean, everything, everything cool, I mean easy. Yeah, it's I was wondering. I mean, like I said, I have to do it.

G 20:47

The service is the same, doesn't matter which way your direction you're going, because we have like a server, we have a you know, a meal when you take off, you have a mid-meal, and then you have a uh pre post pre-arrival meal. So it's only it's three services, but like you know, for 15 hours, you got you know, the first two hours are doing that meet first meal, then you get a five-hour break, then we do a quick 45-minute hour meet meal service, and then an hour before you land. Yeah. So cake. Yeah, like yeah. I'm still not doing it. And we had 12 crew members.

Shawn 21:17

I'd probably do it for an Applebee's.

G 21:19

You got him in Abu Dhabi. I mean, not in in Dubai. Man, it sounded like you had a good time. Yeah, man, it was it was a really good time. Uh but uh I don't want it extended anymore. Like uh, just go just going like, nah, nah, I need to get back. Like there was like there's no place like home, right? Yeah. Right?

Shawn 21:37

It was like yours is a five day, yours it turned into a six day trip.

G 21:41

No, it turned a four day turned into a five day trip.

Shawn 21:43

Oh, four day, five day.

G 21:44

Yeah, yeah. It was a it was it was long enough, and it was nice to have the time to be able to do some, you know, the excursions and all that stuff.

Shawn 21:51

And uh but I say this all the time though. Um when you go to another country and you just said it, you appreciate where you're from.

What Things Cost And What’s Worth It

G 21:59

Hell yeah. Yeah. Dude, there's no place like home. Like first of all, there's no place like the United States. I don't care how much big and expensive and ostentatious everything is, and like indoor skiing and all that stuff. Like first of all, their laws are strict. Nobody steals there. No. If they you steal, you're doing serving 25 years in prison. You ain't gonna like be able to like, what do we do here in the States? You gonna like uh dispute it or whatever? Yeah, like they're no disputing, and the jail they're gonna put you in, you go into a dungeon. That's what the guy the guy just telling us. He's like, no, it's not a it's not a prison, it's a ton dungeon.

Shawn 22:38

And and it's amazing that there's actually people in it.

G 22:41

Yeah, dude. It was like right?

Shawn 22:43

I mean, seriously, you think about it. You're so dumb dumb, you're so damn dumb, really, that you know that that's where you're going, and you still take a chance.

G 22:53

Dude, I'm talking about like petty theft that we consider over in the United States here. Like you do it could get caught stealing anything. Like, literally, we I was like at the food court and I was like leaving stuff on the table. I hadn't had no worries because the penalty if you get caught.

Shawn 23:10

Could you imagine could you imagine demonstrating over in in in Dubai? Right. That never that would never happen, right?

G 23:18

Yeah, I don't I don't like and here's the thing like e each um different kingdom there, you know, Abu Dhabi to Dubai to all the other ones that are there, they all have their own, like some are more strict than others, right? You know, on like laws. Because when we in Dubai, the speed limit there, there was people like speeding and they can, you know, go all thing. But actually the like the road color changed to the next when we got to Abu Dhabi, and when you hit that road color change, all the cars were like slow down, and then the next thing you see, you start seeing military police all over the sides of the road and stuff like that. And it wasn't like them like speed checking, like we were in fog. It's not like a local cop, right? Well, here's the difference we were in fog, and you know how like we get fog here in the morning and stuff like that? They were pulling over every truck on the road, and they had to park until the fog lifted because it's too it was unsafe to have the trucks on the road.

Shawn 24:16

That's the other thing about these different countries when you go when you go there, it's not like the local cop. No, no, I mean it's it's military police.

G 24:23

Yeah, so yeah, they didn't jack you up. Yeah, that's the same like the carbonarian in uh Italy, yeah, things like that. Like you go, yeah, don't be fucking around, Brian.

Shawn 24:35

False sense of security with most Americans, but that's that's when they're traveling abroad, they always have that false sense of security. Yeah. In the United States, I I've said a thousand times over best place to ever come visit because we got more things in the US to do than anywhere else in the world.

G 24:50

Oh, dude. I mean, like, here's the thing like as I was driving down the road there, I was like, this looks a lot like like New Mexico, Arizona, you know, like this is that's how it felt to me. Right. Like it would, it didn't like it wasn't like so foreign and like the sand dunes and stuff. Like the other crew members went on an excursion. Sand dunes were actually small. So it wasn't like the Sahara Desert where we're like imagining like Aladdin or these big old drifting dunes and stuff. They were just like bumps.

Shawn 25:19

And we got it all here. Yeah, but we have all that here. One place.

G 25:22

One place, right? Yep, all across this country.

Shawn 25:25

You know what else we got? Crazy people that stand up and start yelling at flight attendants.

G 25:30

Dude.

Laws, Safety, And Travel Mindset

Shawn 25:30

So this lady, this lady jumps up. The okay, when this happens on an airplane, and usually we get delayed or something, uh uh, you know, uh there's there's uh uh an airline. Well, there's a delay that's usually happened, it's out of our control. Right. And it gets to be lengthy. And there's always one. There's always one. And you're you're sometimes you wait for it, don't you? Yeah. And we we and we know that it's getting tense, we know that the the time's gone by, and then it happens. That one person spring springs up and starts doing what? Cursing at the flight attendant.

G 26:09

Yeah. Or somebody on a plane or whatever, and just like they're just like releasing their tension of like, what?

Shawn 26:17

And they they they actually think that nothing's gonna happen.

G 26:20

Right.

Shawn 26:21

What happened and what occurs is that plane is pulled out of line, taxes back to the gate, and has this person removed. Oh yeah. And all these people all.

G 26:34

No, no, no, you're gonna get you forgot.

Shawn 26:36

They're gonna be like, You ain't removing me? Yeah, I ain't going anywhere. Yeah, then they're staying here, yeah, and deplane everybody. Yeah. Because of one person.

G 26:43

Yeah. And heaven forbid they're not they're anything other than a white person.

Shawn 26:49

Yeah. They they want to be that they want to be that viral video.

G 26:53

Now they're the the yeah, yeah, the viral video of the minority being treated wrong. Yeah. Like it's so crazy.

Shawn 27:01

Like all that stuff is like But you always get you always get that one person. This is not if you try uh when we talk all the time on our podcast, we talk about like um this one individual. We don't talk about the majority. You got it, you get 199 people, you get that one person, that one person decides I I'm I'm gonna go ape shit on this plane. Yeah.

G 27:27

Like it, that's it. And then you get that one, yeah.

Shawn 27:31

That that individual that just decides to blow everything up.

G 27:35

The international flights, you don't get that. Then you know, like that's the that's the it's a more domestic here.

Shawn 27:40

Well, because they know that well, yeah, but they know because it's the military police, they don't play. Right. Difference in the United States, you have you'll have a police officer meet the plane, right? And they're very uh, let's see, they're they're very uh congenial when they come on board and they they're asking them to remove themselves off the plane.

G 28:01

They don't do that in other countries.

Shawn 28:04

They just they drag your ass off the plane. There's no deplaning, Sean. There's no deploying, they will drag your ass right off a plane.

Speaker 1 28:12

Yeah.

Shawn 28:12

That's the difference between going uh, you know, an international an international destination. That's why they don't do it. Yeah, and usually if the person did it, they're crazy.

G 28:22

They got some serious mental issues.

Shawn 28:24

Yeah, but if you if you're having one come from an international plane because you're going to the damn dungeon. Nine times. Well, shit. You'd be hanging up there.

Speaker 1 28:32

I didn't mean it.

Shawn 28:34

I didn't mean it for like 25 years, right?

Speaker 1 28:37

I only the bitch didn't give me a Pepsi.

Shawn 28:39

What am I gonna get rice? All you're gonna get is rice. That's it. Nothing else.

G 28:48

That's hilarious, dude. Yeah, it's like you didn't Americans, you know, we got we have awesome, it's an awesome country because we can express ourselves and say whatever the hell we want to say, right? Yeah, but we can't take that everywhere in the world, you know. You just and you just people don't under they don't understand that.

Shawn 29:07

We could well the first thing they say is, oh, I'm an American. That don't mean shit, guys. Yeah, I'm telling you, you go in there.

G 29:13

That is definitely a check against you.

Shawn 29:14

Exactly. Yeah, you just you did, you just like check that box.

G 29:18

Oh, thank you.

Shawn 29:19

Yeah, yeah.

G 29:20

Yeah, yeah. We want to put more emphasis on this.

Shawn 29:23

25 years. I got 25 years for an American, too. Dude, one thing that I realized though, um, I am done with winter. Um dude, I am done with winter. We keep saying this ever and then. No, no, no. Seriously, I decided I decided this week after after the weather, I'm I'm no longer, I'm not snow blowing anymore. I am driving over the shit. You're why? Because I'm not doing it no more. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of going out there and snowblowing. I'm just gonna drive over the shit.

G 29:57

I just got back off my trip and I pulled in my driveway, and half the driveway is like snowed over, and I'm like, I'm coming in off the trip and I gotta shovel my damn driveway just to get it off. Yeah. Like I was I was pissed because you know, we have service hair that's supposed to do that. I got a service too. It's right here. That's what I said.

Shawn 30:17

Joe and Fred. Yeah, my ass ain't doing it no more. I'm I'm like, apologies. Yeah, no, I'm just driving straight over that shit. I'm like, I am not doing it anymore. I was watching these guys on the on the TV. They're like ice fishing because you know Erie's freaking frozen over. So they're over out there ice fishing. You thought about that. Have you ever done anything like that? I'm not going out. I'm not I listen, I love the fish. Okay, you love the fish. Right. Are you dragging that freaking hut out on the dam? No.

G 30:48

Are you to cut a little hole and sit there and cold on top?

Long-Haul Flight Life And Jet Lag

Speaker 1 30:52

What you doing, Sean? I don't know, man. Freezing my ass off. My pole keeps on moving. Oh man, pull it up. Shit, it ain't a keeper.

G 31:04

Dude, they do that, they do that right down the uh way here.

Shawn 31:07

But it's just dumb. I I I was watching these guys on the the local news, and I'm and they're like, oh yeah, we're out here ice fishing. We're having a great time. Erie.

G 31:18

Yeah.

Shawn 31:18

Are you kidding me? How freezing it is.

G 31:21

The ice fishers and people that do do it, like they do it up like, you know, it's like the you know, the people that have those like mobile homes, like those, some of those tents that are out there are like not just like Joe going out there with a tent. They go out there, they got warmers, they've got they got TVs in it, they got it's like the Winnebago one. Like it's it's crazy. Like, you're still not drinking.

Shawn 31:47

It's just a reason to go out there and get drunk.

G 31:49

Yeah. No. Nope. Could you be right here in my basement getting drunk?

Shawn 31:54

Let's see. Well, yeah, you could drink out there on the lake. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because you're not, you're no as long as you don't have a visit. Who's policing you? Oh, that's true. There's gonna be some crazy ass.

Speaker 1 32:05

Sergeant penguin, what?

Shawn 32:08

Now, have you ever happened? This it came back, uh, flight attendant came back um on the flight, and she was like, I I did the the ultimate screw up. Whoa, what was that? Have you ever mistaken somebody that was a uh you thought that was a a boy and that was a girl?

G 32:28

Oh yeah.

Shawn 32:29

And she was like, I I I felt like a complete ass.

G 32:32

Yeah.

Shawn 32:33

You you know that hey, you we're all human.

G 32:36

Oh, I know, but you like we don't we don't know we don't know.

Shawn 32:43

It was even worse though. It was even worse. I and I have to tell you this. She she goes, I'm sorry, but uh I have to ask you. Um uh sir, are you are you are you 15? And she said, I'm not a sir, I'm a ma'am, and I'm 35. Oh that inserts a foot right in your mouth. She goes, I couldn't have screwed up more. Hey it happens though. I mean, you know, you see these you see very young.

G 33:13

Well, here's it first of all, from the inclination of your starting your speech, you're like, you're trying to be polite. Right. Right? And and you can only see, you can only like we all see what we think, right? You know, I don't know. She could have been like half chimpanzee. I don't know. She I I've done it before. Yeah, I've done it before.

Shawn 33:32

Like you feel like kind of like shit.

G 33:34

I've seen dudes that are that was girls. I know, right?

Shawn 33:37

It's like I've done that one too. Dude, look like a lady. Like I'm like, yeah, I've done that too. I'm like, man, you want something to drink, sir? Yeah, right. He turned around, he turned around, right? And you're like, damn, sir. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Got mustache.

G 33:54

I've done the like, ma'am, sir, sir, ma'am. Adjust yourself quick. Yeah, but you know what? Here's the thing. Like, those people that are in that situation, they probably get that shit all the time, right? Yeah. Like it's like day in day. Like, if you're if you're a pat, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Then Drogenus and Bean from Saturday Night Life. I like fat. Yeah. So you know, it is that's your world, right?

Shawn 34:24

So before we started, I had my salt life shirt, and Sean had to point out the fact that it looked like I had moths in his life.

G 34:32

Moss had like eaten a little holes all over your shirt, and I was like, you can't switch. You can't come on the show like that.

Shawn 34:39

So I had to switch shirts. But um, I was thinking the other thing I was tired about.

G 34:43

We got him in some Tommy Bahama now. Yeah. He don't even know.

Shawn 34:47

Tommy Bahama. Yeah. Look at that, man. I'm styling. I'd rather have my salt life. But no, I I was laughing because I was thinking that the our salt life right now is a damn car. Oh, dude. It's just covered. The line to the car wash was freaking so long. And this is all I could think about. And now don't get me wrong, I'm ready for mine too, because I'm tired of it looking the way it's looked. Right. But um it's wet now. So all that salt and all that shit is doing what when you drive out?

G 35:20

Splashing up everywhere.

Shawn 35:21

It's going right back.

G 35:22

Yeah.

Shawn 35:22

As soon as you drive out of that, as soon as you drive out out of that um car wash, this shit's just spinning all up into your car.

G 35:30

I like creep out. Like I'm like, I'm a like I'll get out of there. Because I know the wheels are splashing, so I'm like just creeping out.

Shawn 35:38

Dude, I just see you driving home like looking for puddles.

Winter Woes And Car Salt Struggles

G 35:40

No, no, no, no, no. I don't look for puzzles. I'm like avoiding budding. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, you're looking for. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm looking for puzzles. Oh no, man. I can't do that. I do. Literally, like, I don't like there. I was coming into the neighborhood and there was like a puddle in the middle of the you know, the street, whatever, and there was another car coming. I like I stopped my car because I wouldn't want to get splashed, first of all, because I just washed my car. I was like, I was like, I don't want that salt in my car. I'm trying to keep it off. And it's and it's terrible too. Like it gets that fine mist. Yeah.

Shawn 36:12

Like well, it gets up all up in that's why you got to go to the one of those car washes that like when when the weather changed, you gotta get that one that goes sprays all up underneath uh the car, especially in Ohio.

G 36:22

Yeah that shit gets just the one up the road here does that. But here's here's the thing like that I found I didn't realize like how much salt's on the road. Like I have a towel that I just dry off the car, like that's like made for like to dry off the car. It's like as big, like not a not like what's those things, those squeegee things or what were those things called?

Shawn 36:43

There's leather, those yeah, they were called chamois, chamis.

G 36:46

Not the chamois, but this is like a big microfiber bigger towel, anyways. Well, I started.

Shawn 36:53

I dry the ultimate towel, dude.

G 36:56

Amazon.

Shawn 36:57

Ultimate towel.

unknown 36:58

Right?

Shawn 36:59

Anyhow, I'm driving. You know, I got this ultimate towel. Go ahead.

G 37:07

I dry off the car and I throw the towel back in my, you know, back in my car. I wash my car like two, three times. Next thing you know, as I'm like trying to dry off, every time I swipe, like white powder is flying off because the salt had dried on my towel. There's that much salt that I'm wiping off. Like it was wet and you couldn't see there was salt. Right. And then it dried, and now I'm like, so then I had to like wash my towels and all the stuff.

Shawn 37:36

Funny, when whenever um, whenever season's, I mean, when the winter winter's over, I take it to that car wash, right? And but then I take it home and then I detail wash it. Oh, yeah. Because the shit is everywhere.

G 37:49

Everywhere it is freaking crazy. Springtime, you gotta like hear in any place that has like winter salt and all that stuff. Springtime, once the salt starts toning down and we get some good rains to wash off the roads and stuff a little bit, you have to like detail your car.

Speaker 3 38:04

Yeah.

G 38:04

Because I mean the salt's everywhere. It is. It gets every I mean, uh, in all the like inside the door jams, you know, in the cracks, crevices, you gotta let you gotta clean it all up. Yeah, it's a mess. Yeah, but uh dude.

Shawn 38:18

Before we move on, I had a question. We I I I have to ask you this one. Hot dog. Hot dog. Is is a hot dog a sandwich? Is a hot dog a sandwich? No. Now think about that for a minute. It ain't a sandwich. No, think about it for a minute because I just threw this before we move on. Think about that. Okay. Okay, what do you put on a hot dog?

G 38:40

Uh some mustard, relish.

Shawn 38:44

Okay. Sauerkraut?

G 38:46

You can. Pastrami sandwich, right? Sure. Cheese? Yep, you can. Put cheese on a sandwich. Yep. Right? What else? But you said is a hot dog a sandwich. A sandwich. Can a hot dog be made into a sandwich? Yes, I can make it into a sandwich, but it ain't a sort of thing.

Shawn 39:01

Oh, sure, now change the shit up. See, I just asked you one simple question. Could a hot dog be a sandwich? Hot dog, not could it not? Is it the same thing? You're gonna take it, you're gonna make it into a freaking sandwich.

G 39:14

Somebody pre-chewed tube of meat, they put it in the thing and sold it off and smacked the Oscameyer sign.

Shawn 39:19

But you added all the shit to it, man. You have pickles, right? Pickles go on pickles go on a hamburger, that's a sandwich.

G 39:25

Gee, I got a question for you. Is a cucumber a sandwich?

Shawn 39:29

It is. It's a vegan. Don't you hey man, don't keep the vegan people out.

G 39:35

Is a carrot a sandwich?

Shawn 39:36

It is. It's shaved. It's a shaved carrot. Anything can be a sandwich if you. Well, shut up. It is. I just asked you a damn question.

G 39:42

Yeah, stupid point.

Shawn 39:46

It was funny though. I still say it's a sandwich.

G 39:49

Yeah, all right, all right. Sandwich.

Speaker 1 39:52

Did you sandwich dream?

Shawn 39:54

All right, go ahead, man. Did you hear what happened down in El Paso?

G 39:58

Yeah, dude, that's crazy. So here's a like they were the pilots were flying into El Paso and they shut the airspace down, and the towers were like telling them, you know, um, you know, looks like we're gonna have a delay here. And he's like, that's okay. We'll just uh go to the hotel. He goes, well, he goes, they're telling us it's gonna be for 10 days.

Shawn 40:21

Can you imagine a greyhound? Can you imagine that crew? Like you're like, you thought you're Dubai, you thought you're four to get going five days. Yeah, in El Paso.

Speaker 1 40:31

You better like Mexican food. That's what we got to deal with in this job.

G 40:34

Like we like we travel over the world, and it can happen right here at home. Like, we can travel to a place where like there wasn't weather.

Shawn 40:43

But dude, we roll with it, we roll with it. We've been doing this job so long. Right. I mean, trust me. I mean, even when you when you found out, you're all you thought was cool, right?

G 40:53

I was thinking, I was thinking 10 days of Mexican food.

Hot Dog Philosophy And Sandwich Logic

Shawn 40:56

No, but if you I mean if you buy, yeah, you were thinking, cool, I get another 24 hours.

G 41:01

I was thinking, I got I'm getting some more pool noodles. I did.

Shawn 41:07

And if we were in El Paso, what would we be doing?

G 41:09

Oh, yeah, we'd be eating Mexican chips, salsa, cerveza. We'd be so good. I'll be like, and I'd be like, yeah, we're getting whatever, 10 days.

Shawn 41:17

We get per damp. We'll probably spend more. They had to buy our other trips. Yeah. You're making calls home. Yeah, I can't believe they left us here. Yeah. We're gonna be here a little while. We don't know when it's gonna be over. We don't know. It's they're shutting everything down.

G 41:32

Dangerous cartel drones.

Shawn 41:34

You made those phone calls home, and then you found out it was like for eight hours.

G 41:38

Dude, that was such a severe reaction, though. Like the like, like I don't know what, like, I don't know what size they keep they always say drones. And to me, like when you say a drone to you in your head right now, what size you're thinking about drones? The little big drones. Yeah, you're thinking like a DJI like drone, right? Yeah, that type of thing. Yeah, but when you really think about drones and you start thinking like drones that are biggest planes, yeah, those things are huge and gigantic. So what's when you when they talk about drones and the cartel having drones and all this stuff, I'd like to know, like, put it in context of like what type of drones are you really talking about? Am I talking about these little racer drones are like speeding around?

Shawn 42:21

Yeah, are they like flying a squadron of these damn things over there?

Speaker 1 42:24

You got a bunch of mess games of little VR things and they're all I got it, I get it.

Shawn 42:29

Let's go. There's some US military going, no, we're shooting the things down, man. Hell no, this ain't gonna be over in like eight minutes.

G 42:41

Yeah, I guess they maybe like SA.

Shawn 42:43

Right? Let's go fucking. We could have had the cartel, but you know something the U.S. military? Eight minutes, man. Eight minutes. I'm shooting these damn things down, dude. You ain't making it.

G 42:51

Give me the give me the time here. SA. Let's go fuck with those Americans. I got my drone. You got your own drone. Yeah, I got your own drone. Yeah, let's go. Yeah. Like, dude, who knows? And then we our reaction, shut down the airspace. You know, like uh who knows? Fuck everybody's life up for 10 days. But it went down for eight hours. I know, it was only eight hours, but eight hours of unknown, you didn't know.

Shawn 43:22

Like you're in your made that phone call home, and you're like, I'm not gonna be home for eight days. Yeah, ten days.

G 43:28

Yeah, we might have to walk. Border Patrol might mistake us.

Shawn 43:35

Hey, I got one, I got one for you with the drone. This is a go, right? Wisconsin, they found a uh in the park, they found a person that was defecating.

G 43:46

Def they're shit shitting in the park.

Shawn 43:49

They were shitting in the park.

G 43:51

That happens every day. We got homeless. We got homeless Americans.

Shawn 43:57

This was a homeless person.

G 43:58

So this is a the serial shitter.

Shawn 44:00

That they had a problem. Could you imagine? Could you imagine? Like that that's your name now. Okay, well. I'm a serial shitter.

G 44:07

How long did it take till now the authorities had said we've got a shit problem? In the Who went and collected? Like, okay, we gotta do, you know, core covert sting operation. We're gonna fly a drone in.

Shawn 44:26

Shit?

G 44:28

They're squatting. The shit is happening to you.

Shawn 44:31

Everybody closed down, right? It's closed in. Well, they found out it was a 46-year-old female. No. No. Could you imagine? Like, you're saying your mom or your aunt or right? You you got now in your family, you have a serial shitter. I'm thinking to myself, I'm thinking, like, why is she shitting in the park?

G 44:52

I don't know. There's lots of questions here. Yeah, I know. Like, does she identify as a bear? She did shitting in the woods? Did they use toilet paper?

Shawn 45:03

I don't know. I don't know. There's a lot of leaves there. I don't know, but she was caught. So there's no uh the fear is gone now in Wisconsin, right? Because they caught the cereal pooper.

G 45:15

Yeah. I can see the mugshot now. Shit eating shit eating grin on her face.

Shawn 45:24

What is what was up with that? Damn, a shit eating grant on her face. That was bad. Shit eating grin. All right. She didn't eat. No. So what happened with this dude? You said that this guy, this guy walks in with this freaking boarding pass banner.

unknown 45:39

No.

Shawn 45:40

What the hell was that?

G 45:41

Yeah, yeah. So this guy, he's spoofing on the airlines and he's he he goes to the, he decides, you know, you know, you you when you get your ticket, you can it says print your ticket, and you can you can bring it in and get past security and all this stuff. It doesn't say how big you print your ticket. So this dude print a banner size freaking ticket. And he went to the airport, he walked in, and he's like, excuse me, excuse me. Can you tell me where my gate is? How do I get the gate? And so when he has to go through TSA, he has to like unfold this. Can you scan this? Hold it like 50 feet back. And it's a legit tick because he printed it. Right. He just put it on a big ass printer, right? So it was.

Shawn 46:21

Were they able to scan it though? Yeah. So they had to imagine how far back you had to go with that damn thing. All right, back up, back up, back up. Okay, you're good. Bring it in.

G 46:32

Dude. The things people think of.

Shawn 46:35

Like, and and you know what's flight out of it?

G 46:37

No, it's gonna start a freaking thing. This is gonna be a TikTok thing. I already see it coming.

Shawn 46:41

Well, they already have that dumb TikTok thing where they show up like 15 minutes before the flight.

G 46:46

There's so many college students gonna be like, oh, let's go down the lab and print ass big ass tickets.

Shawn 46:51

Exactly. Let's show up, and let's show up with the let's show up with a license that is like, you know, as big as a banner. Do you have ID? Yeah, I got it, man. I got ID.

G 47:01

Oh, I need three pieces? Wait.

Speaker 1 47:04

Here's one. Here's the other one.

G 47:10

This could go on and on for a while.

Speaker 1 47:12

Yeah, that was a good one though.

Shawn 47:14

I like that one.

G 47:15

All right, man. But let's talk about an inspirational quote.

Shawn 47:18

The inspirational quote: the comeback is always stronger than the setback, especially when you decide it is. Exactly. It is right.

G 47:30

Because yeah, I mean make that decision. You can make a decision, you can do anything. Yep. You can overcome anything. You just got to make the decision to do it, right?

Shawn 47:37

Yeah, we always make the decision every single day. Like I decided to come back here.

G 47:42

Yeah.

Shawn 47:43

Thanks.

Speaker 1 47:47

You walked into it. I'm sorry. I know I do that.

Shawn 47:51

You when do you figure that out? Thanks for watching us. I actually set that up for myself for you to sit there and pounce on it. He's just figuring that out. All right, guys. Hey, listen, we had a great time this week, had a lot of fun. I hope you guys uh hey, watch. Keep watching, man. Watch us. We we want you guys to spend some time, go through, tell us what you like, tell us what you don't like. Stop listening to us, watch us. Stop listening to us. Stop listening to him. I'm listening to his ass at all. But no, stop listening to him. Listen to us.

G 48:26

Yeah, there you go.

Shawn 48:27

But we had a great time. You guys have a great week. And again, listen. Listen. Thanks for watching. Yeah, watch. Listen. You guys take care. We'll see you next week.

Serial Shitter And TSA Banner Ticket

G 48:36

Next week. See. And that's a wrap. Another episode of Cabin Pressure with Sean and G. If you made it this far without subscribing to our YouTube channel, uh, what are you even doing with your life? Seriously, questioning your judgment. Hit the subscribe button like it owes you money. Ring that notification bell. Do that thing. You know you want to. Because let's be real, finding this podcast was fake. Staying unsubscribed? That's just disrespectful to the universe. We'll see you next week for another episode where we promise you absolutely nothing except more of whatever this was. Until then, keep your trade tables up, your seatbelts fastened, and your YouTube subscription. Subscribed. Peace out, and subscribe already.