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Flight Attendant Hiring: The STAR Method That Gets You the Job

Shawn & G Episode 78

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Ever wonder why flight attendant postings close faster than a Taylor Swift presale? We pull back the curtain on how hiring really works and why less than one percent make it to training. From the first application click to the final evaluation drill, we map the entire journey: STAR method interview stories that land, group exercises where you must speak up and listen, and the compliance checks that can stop a promising application cold. If you’re chasing the wings, this is your field guide to standing out without sounding like everyone who “loves people and travel.”

We go deep on training too—the high-pressure environment where every day brings testing, evacuation drills, CPR, aircraft equipment, and tech-driven procedures. Paper manuals are gone; mobile devices rule, and you’ll be logging safety reports, cross-checking configurations, and navigating a fleet that might span a dozen aircraft types. We talk grooming, professionalism, and why calm, safety-focused communication gets you from short list to job offer.

And because real travel is messy, we unpack moments that test the craft. A service misstep after a cart collision, an airport food-safety fail in plain view, a drunk passenger trying to board a closed flight, hotel sheets that should have been binned, and the hard line on threats that will get you fined, cuffed, or fired. Mixed in are lighter detours—rain-soaked golf bravado, a legendary combine mullet, mayfly swarms, and a hot-air balloon rescue that raises the stakes on “risk management.”

If you’re applying soon, you’ll leave with practical steps: prepare documents early, practice STAR stories, lead with safety, and show team-first instincts. If you already fly, consider this a reset on empathy, hygiene, documentation, and returning fit after illness. Believe deep in your heart that you can, then back it up with disciplined prep and everyday care for people. Enjoyed this one? Follow the show, share it with a friend who’s applying, and leave a quick review to help others find us. Your support keeps the stories—and the lessons—airborne.

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Support For Military And Crews In Conflict

Shawn

How do you get hired as a flight attendant?

G

Is it easy to make it?

Shawn

Before we start, we'd like to send our support out to the men and women of the United States military and their families, keeping you in our thoughts and prayers for safety and a safe return home.

G

We also want to acknowledge the airline crews that are caught up in the conflict zones right now. When situations escalate, flights divert fast. But there are still crew members that are stuck and working through a very complicated path at home.

Vacation Banter And Setting The Topic

Shawn

We're thinking of you and we're wishing you safe travels back home. All right, brother, before we even get started about how it is to be a flight attendant, damn you're dark. How'd you get so dark? You racist? You got what are you talking about? You got look at you, man. Dude. This is what happens when you get back to the back. Go back and look at the other videos. This dude just came from vacation.

G

Yeah, finally, man. I was down in some fun and some sun for a little bit, kind of sucky weather while we were down there in Florida, but hey, this is what happens. You come back to Ohio, man, you're all tan. That's right. Shit, I'm all white. Dude, you need to get out and get that pastiness off of you. Yeah, see, there you go.

Is It Easy To Become A Flight Attendant

Shawn

You start making fun of my whiteness.

unknown

Right.

Shawn

Dang, Sean. You know, brother, the number one question that we get asked all the time from like young people on airplanes or even like other people that have thought about this career. How do you become a flight attendant? That's number one. Right. Right. And is it easy? Is it easy? Is it easy? Not so much. You know, it's so funny. When you talk to somebody, we're gonna get into exactly what what it entails. But when you talk to somebody, they go through training. They're like, oh yeah, you know, I kind of flew right through it. No, that's bullshit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Shawn

Because you you only flew right through it because you made it. Yeah. All those people, uh you know they don't talk about the people that didn't make it.

G

Yeah, when you look back on it, like the time that you did it, you feel like, oh yeah, it flew by, right? But when you were doing it, that's not the case. Oh, hell no.

Shawn

No, no, and that's I always laugh when I hear that. Right. Because that person is, you know, it just recently someone said that. They're like, oh yeah, I flew through it. And I said, the only reason you flew through it is because you made it through.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Shawn

Because all you guys seen the ones that basically had that had to walk out.

G

Right. Right? The ones that had to leave training. You know what? I'm look- I'm thinking it back to my class, and like we had a class of 100 flight attendants, everything. I think there was one gal in her class that she kind of flew through it. She was drunk as um juju the whole every day. She was drunk. Can't do that now. And she ain't no way. She got and she got like the highest score in the class. Like, you know, they give that award out, like she was drunk and got the highest score. There's no way she was like she was stupid smart. Like, she was really smart. Yeah. But uh, yeah, she was pretty much drunk the whole time. And most people can't do that. 99.9% of the people, no, they'll be gone.

Shawn

Oh, yeah.

G

Day one.

unknown

Day one.

G

Right. Smell, smell like alcohol.

Shawn

Yeah, there's your exit plan.

Training Reality And Daily Studying

G

I mean, every every night she was like in the bar, every night, like after class, right? Like drinking away her like sorrows, but she would always do well. It's crazy. It is crazy how much studying you do as a flight center. It is every night it's like a cram session, right? Yeah. Because you're like you'd learn learn something that day, then you're crammed for the next day because they're gonna be like testing you. Do you remember what the what was what was your first test that you took? Do you remember? City codes. City codes, right? City codes. Yeah, city codes. I don't think they do that anymore. Nope, they don't. Yeah, like so like we had to memorize the city codes and all that stuff and have to like we've been doing it so long, like we know so many more city codes than even we started learning. Yeah, right. But yeah, they give you the city code thing, which is it was kind of silly, but it was like it definitely made you like get into it, right? Yeah. Yeah. So anyhow, but the other thing that was like really interesting was like my class had a certain age when I first started. Now like the age is like just expanded, right? To like flight attendants and when when you can like you know start and stuff. It's like from you have to be 1821 minimum, but for the US major carriers, you have to be 21. Right. Right? Yeah, I was 20. Yeah, I was I was 25. Yeah. Yeah. When I started, and so then uh you also have to have a high school diploma, you also have to have the uh a US passport, you have to be you don't have to be a US citizen, but you have to have a uh work visa to be able to work here because we have many people that are interpreters, stuff like that. But uh the other thing, what type of experience do we need?

Shawn

You well, you a must really hospitality because you have to get it, you have to be able to work with people. Yeah, no doubt, right? Yeah. Military's good. Retail, yeah. In the healthcare, healthcare is good too, because you have nurses. Because remember years ago, you had to be a nurse. Right. You don't have to now, but I mean it helps.

G

Yeah, but I don't really think of hospitality in military. What do you mean? Sit down, get your ass in the seat now. I don't know if that translates into good hospitality. Like, you just yelled at me, man. That's how the military, that's how you learn, but I didn't bring any of those skills. Well, that's communication. I didn't bring any of those skills except for like when we have emergencies, yes.

Shawn

Okay, but did that did that drill sergeant did it communicate to you? Yeah, yeah. Well, you got the point across. Right, but like that's really not hospitable.

G

Well, sometimes it does come in, it comes in handy. It does come in handy because at certain times you'll see the military come out of me.

Shawn

No, because you get you have to. Yeah. Because we get situations on the plane, right, where people bark orders, yeah. Like that you just did with me and it kind of just went right through my chest. Yeah, so anything, uh but nowadays it's different. Yeah. Okay, it's a little different, right? Because we used to go to cattle. Did you go to cattle call? Yeah. Okay, so we went to the cattle calls. That's where you basically show up and there's like you what, 500, a thousand people, and you go through this whole interview process. Ours was like, I think it was like 10 hours. Yeah, the whole thing.

G

It's funny that they call it cattle call, right? Yeah.

Shawn

Why is it?

G

You just gotta like envision that big cattle yard with all the steer, like, well, they did. They funneled you in. That's pretty much that's how it worked. Yeah, exactly.

Shawn

They funneled you in. Like they remember the doors you'd have like double doors and everything. Everything narrowing down to like everything but a cow proud. But no, they get in there and you'd see the rows and rows and rows of people. Oh, yeah. And then you'd have this panel of flight attendants asking questions. Yeah. And the number what do you remember the number one answer?

G

Yeah.

Shawn

Why why do you want to be a flight attendant?

Requirements: Age, Documents, Experience

G

Yeah, I just love to fly. I love it. I love people. That was the number one. I have friends like, and I know you have friends too that were recruiters. Yeah. And they would they would just be like talking about how like all these like same answers would come over. Can you imagine like sitting in front of like a thousand people in a room and they're all coming up telling you the same answer? Like, I just want to fly the people. You're like, wow. A little different today. A little different today. Yeah, so today you do first what? You have to do an online application.

Shawn

They do an assessment, right?

G

So there's an assessment with the application, and then if you like your inner your your your application gets weeded through thousands of people, then they invite you to a Zoom internet.

Shawn

Let's talk about that first. Yeah, because when they open up the internet to to applications, yeah, what happens?

G

It's like a Taylor Swift concert.

Shawn

Yeah. And then like it shuts it down. It it actually shuts down within like an hour easily.

G

Yeah, because sometimes 30 minutes. Thousands and thousands.

Shawn

And you could be halfway through your application.

G

Yeah.

Shawn

Shut down. And you're and you're cut off. Yep. And and you you're not even you're not even going to have a chance.

G

And the airlines, they only open them up in like, you know, the in staggered step segments. Like they'll come, you know, three months later they'll open it up, six months later they'll open up. You don't know when they're going to open up because they don't tell you when it's going to open up. It's just you have to kind of like keep watching, keep being attentive, go into the website every day to see if it's open. If you're lucky when you boom, it's open, you throw your application in there and you're you should be ready with everything, all the materials to throw in your attachments and all that stuff. Just be ready right then and there.

Shawn

See, if if if if it was me and you, yeah, your yours would be in.

G

Mine would be like. Yeah, I would already like mine. Would be like click, click, click, and I already had 10 applications in there.

Shawn

Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even be in here.

G

And and G would be. There's no way. I wouldn't even be in here.

Shawn

No, I've been doing some other job. Hey. Exactly. I'd been doing some other hey, at least I'm honest. That's right. I'd been doing some other job. I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you right now.

G

But anyways, so it's it's just a different situation. So you get that uh interview and then you get the uh what that zoom interview first.

Shawn

That'd be kind of weird. Have you ever done that? I mean, like an interview with a Zoom.

G

I've done it because, you know, school and all that stuff. So I've like done Zoom internet and interviews and things like that. In fact, I just had an interview for um, I was applying for a master's, and so I did it in Zoom internet for that and all that stuff. So it's just like talking to somebody. You gotta like think of like the person's, it's like you and I talking right now. Right. If you if you approach it in that sense, then you're you're good. You know, like you don't want to show up, you know, in your pajamas.

Shawn

That wouldn't go over well. I haven't done Zoom though. I mean, I have I've I've done Zoom, but like not like an interview right now. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

From Cattle Calls To Online Hiring

G

It's just a just like a normal us sitting back and forth, you know, asking questions and all that stuff, and they're taking notes and writing notes and stuff like that right in front of you. So it's nothing like any different than being in person, but modern day technology brings us together easily, right? Yeah, right, yeah, which is awesome because I mean, for us, what did we have to do? We had to like fly down somewhere, like a lot of people had to fly to the destination, like and and get that interview, and then they fly back home. You know, it was a whole process and a whole day where now they're doing it in seconds, you know, a couple minutes on the internet and you're done.

Shawn

It's crazy though when you think about it. Uh the same thing is when we showed up, they'll ask you this question, and your your moving forward is determines on what do you say? Yeah, right. You just your response. Yeah. So they'll give you a certain situation, like a stressful situation, and then your response will be determine whether you're gonna go forward.

G

Right. The determination, and for everybody out there, a tip is you have to complete a star. Yeah. And so look up on their net, what is a star response? So if you start, but basically they just want to, there's no right, there's no wrong. They want to know, they want to hear a big story. So they want to tell you, you're gonna tell them a whole story about a situation, about the question they just asked, and then they want either a bad ending or a happy ending. It doesn't matter, they just want to complete the star.

Shawn

Yeah, they want to see how you got from the beginning to the end.

G

Yeah, and it's not about the results. No, you can be a failure, it can be a total failure, like I screwed up. Yeah, but you acknowledging that you screwed up is there you're telling them, oh, I know better. You know, like what did you learn from it? Yeah, what did you learn from it? What could you have done better? Exactly. And that's the whole thing. Don't be afraid to give right and wrong answers.

Shawn

Yeah, because even in this job, we make a lot of mistakes.

G

Oh, we play lots of mistakes.

Shawn

We'll be talking about that later. Yeah. And then next you have to talk about the okay, so you get past that part of it, the zoom part. Right. Then what happens is that you make it to the the big one. Right. Okay. And that is the the one-on-one uh well, first actually, you go with the group activity first. They bring you, they bring you in, and uh, and what they do is they set you off with different groups. Right. And they have situations with those groups, and then they weed those groups out from that.

G

Yeah, from when the interaction with the group and all that stuff, they're gonna see how you're interacting with the other groups, and then they do normally like say there's like 10, 15 people in that group. Yeah. If that, yeah, like only one or two of those people are gonna get asked to be like, we want to talk to you more.

Shawn

Yeah. And they got a situation, they want to see how you respond, or if you don't respond.

G

Right.

Shawn

Because if you if you have lack of response, then that's a failure too.

G

Yeah. When you get into the group situations, you don't want to be you don't want to be mute. You don't want to be that wallflower. No. You need to be up there talking, explaining what be participating. It's like a team, all that stuff. It's a team, yeah.

Passing The Zoom Interview With STAR

Shawn

Yeah, you have to be able to actually let someone else have an opinion too. Right. Because the group makes the decision sometimes. Right. So that that would be the best situation there as far as group activity. So then say that you make it past the group activity. Next, you gotta figure out so you made it past there. Can I reach the bins?

G

Can you reach the bins? You gotta like be physically capable of the two, yeah.

Shawn

Yeah, they gotta be able to reach the height, the the assist in in putting luggage on it.

G

Right. You gotta be physically capable to do the job. So, like, there's all those different things that you're gonna they're gonna have you do, like the reach tests, they're gonna make, you know, they used to, for us, was they like measure our height and all that stuff. They'd weigh us, but they don't weigh you anymore. Nope. We put on that's the first thing we did. They put us on a scale. Yeah, they put us right on a scale the first time, but they don't do that anymore. Um, and then you know, they move into that whole uh, you know, background check and all that stuff, right? So they're gonna do that for you. Yeah. And and drug tests are gonna make you pee pee.

Shawn

Yeah, but you forgot the one-on-one interview though. One-on-one, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. So after the group text, right, after the group activities, you if you make it to the next part, it's the one-on-one. Gotcha. So you gotta go, you gotta get the one-on-one, and then it becomes they're looking at you individually. Right. Your grooming, your appearance, how'd you show up? Right. Right?

G

I mean are you professional? Do you have your hair pulled back? Do you have your makeup on? Do you you know, do you look like you woke up to bed? Do you still have CPAP marks on your face? You know, like all that kind of stupid stuff. Like they're looking at everything. Like, how are you showing up to the show?

Shawn

Yeah, you know. Because I mean, they're they're looking at um, okay, how did you perform in the group activities? Right. Were you a team? Were you uh were you a team-minded individual? Right? Were you looking for safety? Was your responses you know safety related? Yeah. So I mean, those are important responses in the group activities that kind of bring you over to the one-on-one.

G

Yeah. Can you think quick on your feet?

Shawn

Yeah.

G

All that stuff.

Shawn

Now going after that, so you make it past that one-on-one.

Group Exercises And One On One Screening

G

Then that's when you're gonna go through all the in-processing stuff. Right now, they're like they want to try to give you a job. Right. So you're gonna get the drug testing. So you're gonna be peeing in a bottle. You're gonna background check. A background check. You're gonna make sure that nothing's on your record. They're gonna they're gonna be looking over everything from that medical screening, making sure you don't have any pre-existing medical. Can you hear? Yeah, can you see? Yeah, you know, so there's a lot of people in this job that we know that they were can is that corrective? Yes, that's corrective. You you can have hearing aids, you can have glasses, you know. Look, so all that has to be available and be able to be corrected. But you can't have you can't just be deaf. No, you can't probably if you're deaf, you wouldn't have made that.

Shawn

We we developed that later on, right? That's selective hearing. That comes with the job. Selective hearing. Yeah, but you think that at this point, okay, at this point, right now, you're not even hired yet. Nope. You're not even hired.

unknown

Nope.

Shawn

So how many people are eliminated through this process up to this point?

G

Majority, everybody. Like if you're in a thousand people, I would say less than one percent.

Shawn

Yeah. It is actually less than one percent. Right. So next, so say that you made that one percent, then training. Then you have to go through training, you gotta make it through that. And we we talked about training. Training is crazy, right? I mean, it really is. Uh, I mean, everybody's gone to you've gone to college, we've done that thing, you've done the military, you know, but training is one of those things that you know when you're going through when you're going through the the process, the testing, it's testing all the time.

G

Yeah.

Shawn

And you're being evaluated all the time, you're being tested all the time.

G

Peer, peer pressure, all that stuff.

Shawn

Like because you're you're constantly you're constantly looked looked upon with your peers because you're in situations throughout the day.

G

Right. Yeah. There's no time in training where you're not being evaluated. Even when you're like done training for the day, you're still being evaluated. Yeah. Like there's so many situations. How many, how many times did we know, like during our training, like people got kicked out because of stuff they did after training?

Shawn

Oh, yeah.

G

Like they're at the hotel, they're doing stupid shit.

Shawn

Yeah.

G

You know, like so But you're not even through that.

Shawn

I mean, you had you have emergency drills, you can fail at that. You can fail with the CPR through training, you can fail at evacu Evax were huge.

G

Well, just in general knowledge of the, you know, like the stuff that they're teaching you, the polishing procedures, the planes, all that stuff.

Shawn

Equipment.

G

Yeah.

Physical Checks, Background, And Medical

Shawn

I mean, and then uh not to mention how many airplanes there are. Right. Because you got to know all the airplanes. Yeah. And then you and then now, now everything uh years ago, we had a manual. Right. And that manual, I'm telling you, was like that thick. And that paper. Now they get an iPhone. Yeah. That paper, that paper was like tissue paper. Oh, yeah. And we we used to have to do um uh revisions that were a pain in the ass. Remember that? Yeah, dude.

G

That's stuff, and that came out like multiple times a month.

Shawn

Yeah, like it was constantly changing. So now that now they have iPhones with little computers on them. So and that you have to have knowledge of that.

G

Right. So now it's all tech. Yeah. So now you're high tech now. Everything from flight attendant job went to high tech. Now you have to be, you know, which this generation, all the new generation, younger people coming onto this job, they're good with it, you know, like because they they grew up on a phone. Right. Whereas, you know, us old guys, we really didn't do it. You either had to learn it or you're gonna leave.

Shawn

But we also have older flight attendants that get hired now, they have to actually learn it.

G

They have to learn it, right?

Shawn

They have to learn the technology part of it too. So it's everything for things.

G

Everything's technology. You're not using any more pen and paper anymore. Everything's like being done electronically.

Shawn

Yeah.

G

Like we have emergency, we're on our electronic device, putting in information into the device, like it's reports, reports that you have to do.

Shawn

All kinds of reports, sending things out to get fixed. Yep. There's so much that you have to know. I mean, and and that's in training, also. We're not even out of training yet. Yep. There's all kinds of things. We're still in, we're still in training.

G

Now, to like pause on this whole thing, each and every airline is going to be a little different because depending on if you go to your small airline or a big airline, you know, that makes a difference for the train training, right? Right. Because like you're going to if you're going to an express carrier, you might have one or two plane types, right? But if you're going to one of the majors, you might have 15 different plane types, you know. Who knows? You know, and then there's variances of those plane types within the fleets and stuff like that. So you have to learn all that stuff. Do you remember when when we started how many different planes we had? Dude, I think it was like in the 20s.

Shawn

It was ridiculous. Yeah.

G

I mean, it was and and then and then we had mergers. And there's no there was no standardization equip of equipment. So, like the insides of the plane, each model and each airline that had bought that model had put it, made it a different look. So then we had to learn all those different models.

High-Stakes Training And Constant Evaluation

Shawn

That was crazy.

G

Yeah. Dude, it was insane.

Shawn

So the question is it easy to become a flight attendant? Nope. Nope. So nope. So point I don't think you or I would even get hired. No, point six. No, we'd get hired. No. Yeah, we would. I don't know. I wouldn't. Well, you probably would before me because you'd have but you'd have your uh you'd have your resume in there. I'd still be hacking on the computer.

G

I just like um I'm thinking like, man, I like when we're talking about all these steps, like my steps to come in here personally was like it was Catal Call.

Shawn

Yeah.

G

I went straight from Catacall to one-on-one. Yeah. So we dropped, I just jumped all those things that we talked about. Yeah. I went to one-on-one and boom, it was like they offered me the job right there. Bam.

Shawn

But you know something though? And it's funny too, you just said that. We got the job.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Shawn

And if it would have been no, they'd have missed the boat. Because I mean, we've been here so long, we've dealt with so many different situations, and and you know, it's something that we both love doing. I mean, it's a lot of fun doing, but they'd have missed the boat. Um you'd have missed it in the assessment. Mine, you'd have missed it because I couldn't even I couldn't even get my resume in there. That'd suck. Yeah, that was hacking at it. So to answer your question, is it easy to become a flight attendant? Let's say no. No.

G

Yeah. So what the hell's been going on with you, man? Dude, so I just came off vacation. That's why I'm so dark. Yeah. Um, and uh first of all, I gotta like talk about one my wife. This was she my wife's a bully. Did I tell you that? You big baby. She's a bully.

Shawn

She's not very big.

Tech, Manuals, And Fleet Complexity

G

She is the golf bully of all bullies. Oh, she was golfing. She was she was bullying you on the golf. Yesterday we're on the course and we're we're we're golfing late at night, right? So trying to bring the price down because it's expensive. This is prime golf right now in Florida. And so we're trying to bring the price down a little bit. And so if you golf at like three o'clock and beyond, you know, it's a question of if you're gonna get it in or not, which we we got it in. We're pretty quick golfers. But we got on like the 15th hole, it started pouring rain. And I'm like, pull the golf cart over. I'm like, oh, let's just wait it out a little bit. I'm looking at the sky, it's like dark gray, rain's getting heavier and heavier. She's looking down like the hole, and she's like, I think we can outrun it. I'm like, no, well, let's just wait. No, no, I think we can outrun it. See those two guys up there? They're they're gonna, we're fine. We should just go. And I'm like, you really want to go? You don't want to just wait. No, no, I don't want to wait. Let's go. We can do it. So I get out of the car. By the time I get out of the cart, get my ball in a T and hit the ball, I'm like a drenched rat. I mean, you know what golfing is like when your drawers are wet? Caddyshack. Dude, that was freaking soaking wet. It was that freezing rain, the whole nine yards. I'm drenched. And she's like, now it's her time to. I'm like, get your ass out of the cart. Get out. You're gonna hit you're going in right now. Right now, in this weather, you're getting out, you're gonna be wet too. You know, like it was crazy. But anyways, did she do it? Yeah, she did it. And by the like a hole and a half, the rain stopped. You know, Florida, you're like, it's always like that. Look, like, I'm like, you can wait it out, just wait it out. No, we were wet as shit. Anyhow, she's a bully man, and she does this to the like my neighborhood golfing. Anyone that's listening that is from our neighborhood, they'll tell you the same thing. Yeah, she'll bully you, she will bully you, she'll make you, she'll be like, all the guys will be ready to quit golfing, and she golfed with my guys group, and then she's like, Okay, guys, well, if you guys are quitting, that's okay. I'm I'm just gonna go on. So, you know, all of us are like man card.

Shawn

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta suck it up now. I guess I gotta go.

G

Yeah.

Shawn

Damn it.

G

And they're all thinking, Peach, what you doing? That's too fun. Oh my god. Anyways, but man, so anyways, we had some shitty weather on vacation. So we were down like in Florida for like 10 days, and you know, like I would say probably five of the five, six days, bad weather. Like, I'm talking about gale force winds, like turn the corner and you could like lean into the wind and it will stand you up. Like it was that crazy windy, and it was like so wet, and and just it was bad. So, what the hell did you do? Well, we you know, we ate a lot, played some cards, you know, like they're not too much to do when you when the weather was bad, but then it finally broke at the end of the week and stuff, and so that wasn't I literally this this tan here is like maybe hour, two hours sitting in the sun. Top that's that's bullshit. That's it. Yeah, like my wife didn't get that dark either, but it was like it was crazy. Anyhow, the um we're coming home from a vacation and I'm on the flight and I'm sitting there and I'm tired because I'm exhausted. Because we just this was like one of those vacations we got to do fun stuff, but we were like visiting friends and stuff too, and in addition, and it just I was exhausted. So I'm in on the ILC, you know, I'm like slumped over. You know how your body just starts relaxing, you know, your knees widen out a little bit, all of a sudden it was like BAM! I was like, what the fuck? Like I reached up and grabbed it. The cart had hit square dab on my brand new knee, on my prosthetic. I'm like, mother, I'm like, I'm like, I'm holding a cart. And the flight gentleman's like looking at me, I have my headphones on, I took my hair. I'm like, I'm like, god damn. I'm like, this is my new knee. I'm like, you just ram that cart right in my knee. I'm holding on the cart. She looks at me and she goes, Can I go now? Dude, I was ready. That's not what you do. I was looking. If I would have been a raptor, I would have fucking ripped her throat out right there. That is not what you do.

Shawn

No, no, nobody, nobody intends to hit somebody's knee. Right. But when you do, you'd be empathetic.

Verdict: It’s Not Easy To Get Hired

G

Exactly. Like, oh, I'm sorry. How can I help you? Are you all right? Right. Do you need medical assistance? Right. Like all that stuff. Was any of those questions asked? Hell no. This light didn't do anything. So I sat there for a little bit, like my knee was throbbing. I'm like, all this stuff. I get up and I walked up a tall, I like, I'm like, listen, you better write this up because I'm writing this up. She goes, You should. That was it? That was it. Dude, I was ready to strangle her. I had to walk away. I was like, I'm walking away. I come back to my seat. The pastors around me are like, Are you okay? Is your knee all right? She really hits you hard. Guy across me, he's like, I can't believe she didn't even come back and check on you. I'm like, You're like the video of not of what you're doing. Everything not to do. And that was our experience.

Shawn

And then we work in the I mean, okay, the aisle is is very small. Right. Right? And and knees get hit every once in a while, but that's not what you do. That is not what you do.

Vacation Golf, Rain, And Life Catch-Up

G

No. I I just was like, I was in shock. And then here's a there's a catch 22 to this whole thing. Like, and and other flight attendants out there can kind of relate to this. Like, we get injured on a flight, and I'm non-Reven on the flight, which means I didn't pay for anything to fly, right? Right. And so when we get injured, nothing. Like, how do how does that work, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

G

They're supposed to actually treat us as a passenger. Really? Yeah. I mean, we're protected as like they lose your luggage, we're fully covered by our luggage, you know, protection, all that stuff. It's not like back in old days where it was nothing. It is something now. Like you have you have rights as a passenger. But how it was handled was terrible. Terrible. So then I get off the plane, I ask for a supervisor, I get there, supervisor's like, you know, oh, knowing that I'm an employee, he's like, submit this form that's an employee injury form. I'm like, I'm not working. He was like, he had clueless. He was clueless. So nobody knew. Nobody knew what to do. But you know what happened today? Hell yeah, I sent those letters. Those letters are fired off. Everybody and anybody that I think can listen, they got fired off. And I would encourage anybody that that situation happens to that isn't handled correctly, write a letter. Yeah. Like you should protect yourself. And especially like if my knee gets messed up, where it's like, I don't know, days later, this is something happens and my knee's not working right. No, I like I'm gonna have some protection. Yeah. For my lawyer's sake, you know, like I'm gonna sue the airline, you know, if I have to. But it was just it was a bad situation. I couldn't believe it happened. But it was just like, you know, you're sleeping and all of a sudden, bam, and we've both done it, right? But you don't handle situations. No, you definitely like that's crazy. No, and then the other thing is like coming off of vacation, you know how you're gone for so long and everything. You know what the worst thing about coming off vacation? It's that get back, and you got all this shit to do. Yeah, like everything, like all kinds of stuff happened. And like, I'm coming home, my internet in my house wasn't working. What happened? Somebody cut my internet line while I was gone. Like, I'm like, I got all this to do with, I'm trying to catch up with your life. You got laundry to do, you're trying to get prepped to get back into the sky and all that. You know, I was like, what the fuck? Internet's the worst.

unknown

Yeah.

Shawn

Internet's worst. If you lose the internet, yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's the worst. If you lose internet, I mean, right there, power, right? If you lose power and internet, those are the worst. Especially if you come home too. Yeah, you're coming home and it's just you're doing everything on the internet, right?

G

And and and you're trying to catch up with yourself. Like, okay, I gotta settle back in, I gotta regroup, you know, do my laundry, get prepared to get back to work, all that stuff. And internet's part of that for us, you know, because we connect with internet. You you needed a vacation from your vacation. I did. And so for the next few days, I'm gonna be just doing catch up on, you know.

Shawn

You notice I didn't even call you.

G

Right. You're you were mute.

Shawn

I knew there's something had to be going on because I I didn't hear anything from you. I'm like, you must got a lot of shit going on.

G

I texted that one time, I was like, you know, because I was almost had to come over to the house because I won't didn't know what was going on with my internet, right? And I was like, no, I guarantee you somebody cut that line. Because I know there's digging in my neighborhood. So I knew that something must have happened, and that's sure enough what happened.

Cart To The Knee: Service Done Wrong

Shawn

Something I said you need a vacation from a vacation.

G

So, anyhow. Uh so what are you been doing, man?

Shawn

You were gonna get into that. You just like uh all of a sudden had a brain flow. Yeah, I had a brain flow. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? No, when I was when I was flying, okay. First first of all, I had gotten I'd gotten sick. I'll talk about that in a few minutes. But when I was flying, uh I I it was the nastiest thing, and I thought about you when I was standing in line. So we're over in Houston. I was with the flight attendant, and we went to get grab something to eat. I got Chinese and she went out uh uh wanted the the barbecue. Okay. So we went over to the barbecue place, and they had you know how they have them in the middle of the uh of the um terminal the terminal areas now so you can see everything. So you're watching it, which is good and bad.

G

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like those open kitchens. You see those restaurants that have open kitchens that do it at the airport.

Shawn

I love the smell of barbecue too. So I'm over there. Who does it? Yeah, free smells, right? So you get the barbecue. You start salivating until I seen the dude that was started doing the barbecue sandwich for her. So he starts talking to this other woman. She brings this big old nasty box. Now, Sean, this guy has the gloves on, but in the gloves, I I wanted to bring a pair of gloves because it was torn. Right. You know, the rubber gloves that are torn. So his hands showing. Now it's full of grease. Both, both of them are. So he's talking to this woman. I'm looking at this flight attendant going, he's this is the dude that's making your sandwich. Yeah. And she looks at me and she goes, Oh God, I hope not. He grabs he grabs the box, he rips the box open with those greasy, nasty paws of his, takes the buns out, throws them on the countertop, opens, opens the the plastic. I'm not kidding you. He grabs all this bun, throws it up on that dirty counter, takes it, throws it in that warming, that heating thing to toast it. You know how that rotates things, it toast it. He waits there for a minute, and I look at her and I'm like, he's the one making that sandwich. And she goes, Oh my god, no, just tell me he's gonna use tongs. And I said, I don't think he's used the tongs.

G

I don't know how you like cook in front of the public and have that that nasty of habits.

Shawn

But I'm like, done. Yeah, I know. So he takes that those bun, that bun, he puts it on a paper, on that little piece of paper. He doesn't grab tongs, he reaches in and he eagle claws that pork. Hell no. And he comes out there like that. Remember that game where they they release all that the toy? Yeah, he dumps it on that sandwich, squirts some shit over the top of it, throws throws the bun over it, wraps it up, and I looked at her and I'm like, Are you seriously gonna eat that? And she goes, Well, I I I I guess it's gonna build my immunity. I'm like, There's no way. There ain't no way to make it. I told her I said it. If my buddy Sean was sitting right here about the time that he just even had those nasty hands bowls I'd have been like, stop, stop right now.

Airport Food Hygiene Horror

G

Somebody else wash your hands, get some new gloves. Somebody else has got to make it. There's no way, yeah. Somebody else make my sandwich, or somebody get you like, there's no way that you can need some new gloves because I don't need your ass, crusty ass hands. In front of us, whatever you've been scratching your crotch and throw them, then you throw my sandwich together. Hell no. Right in front of us. I couldn't believe it. That's some bullshit. But anyway, she took it. Oh see, that's my wife would do this. There ain't no way. Shit. Like, I how many people you know like that will do that? Like a lot. A lot of people. I mean, there's so many people like you see, like you see something like that, see something, say something, right? That's how that's how I grew up. Yeah like I mean, and you shouldn't be embarrassed to do it, and especially like my I have a buddy that he says, you know, I mean, I don't like to see anything because I think they're gonna like spin in my food or they're gonna do something in the food. But if they're making the shit right in front of you, they can't really do anything without you see them because you're watching them do it. You're gonna watch, you can even watch more attentively, right? Yeah. Because you don't want them to mess with your sandwich, right? But I dude, there's no way I would have bought that sandwich.

Shawn

It was it was probably the one of the nastiest things that I'd seen in a long time. No, yeah standing there. I mean, it was it was disgusting. So we were we were walking back to the gate and I was talking to her about it. I'm like, I I still can't believe that you're even gonna eat that. He's lucky you weren't like the health department.

G

I wouldn't eat it. I mean that I mean, but the health department probably would have that would have been in violation right there. Period. He was a violation. Yeah, he's a trade straight up violation.

Shawn

I mean he should have been working in food, period. That made me that made me ne I will never go eat at that barbecue place. Yeah. Ever. I mean, I'm telling you, and I wouldn't tell anybody to eat there either. But we walk back to the gate. Our flight was delayed.

unknown

Right.

Shawn

So we're all standing at the gate, we're waiting for this big storm comes in, and we're delayed.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

Shawn

All right. This is so I'm talking to the captain, and this guy walks up. Now, the plane's coming in, it came in from international destinations, so it had to clear customs.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

Shawn

Everybody's waiting outside, everything's, you know, the the streamers across there. This guy comes up, he scans his boarding pass, and and he starts walking to the door that's closed. What the hell is that about? Drunk. Just drunk? He's drunk. This dude is so damn drunk that he doesn't even realize he has no clue that he's not going to be able to do it. We're not not only not boarding, right? We're not boarding. The door's closed. He's just gonna stumble on. He's just gonna walk on. And and I looked at the cabin and I was like, well, we know who isn't flying today. He's in flying today, right? So he stumbles back over to uh these seats, and we have to get somebody to go over and talk to him. But I was like, I I have not seen. He walked up there and he was like scanning, you know, scanning his boarding pass, see if he could get on a plane.

G

I knew what he needed to do.

Shawn

At least he knew that. I'm in the lines, I know I am. I know, I know I'm in the lines. So also did a layover, did a layover, and I don't know. I I'll I'll give you this picture, but it's kind of nasty. What's that? Um, so I was on a layover, got up in the morning time, worst feeling. So I went to I always pulled the bed sheets off afterwards. Right? So I pulled the bed sheets off. Dude, there was a freaking nasty ass stain on the bottom of that bed. And they had never changed the sheets. I was about lost my freaking shit, man. I was so upset.

G

That's an instant call downstairs. I need a new room. I need a new room. No, no, no, no.

Gate Delay And The Very Drunk Passenger

Shawn

Sean, it was in the morning time. I checked I pulled the sheets back and I didn't see anything. You'd already been I stripped the bed. Whenever I whenever I leave there, I pull the sheets off the bed. Oh, you do? Yeah. Because I don't want them not to make the bed for the next person. Okay. So when I pulled them off, I pulled the top sheet off. There was a it was a blood stain. Uh it was disgusting. That's nasty. It was disgusting. I I mean about lost my shit, man. It was so bad. Yeah. And uh there I can take just about anything, but when it comes to like bed sheets and stains on them, no.

G

You know what? Uh you know, I'm thinking about this hotel thing, like, you know, that that whole the whole process of like being in a hotel and we're in hotels all the time. And like, yes, if you the more you think about it, the more nasty it is, right? But you know, hotels should have there should be like laws, just like they have like the pasture rules and rights for flying. We should have rights, rules and rights for the hotel too. Like those mattresses should be monitored and replaced and inspected on a regular basis. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, because how many, how, how many times have we been, we know the mates, you know, you don't know what type of maid you get. Sometimes you get good ones, sometimes you get bad ones, and the bad ones really screw it up. I mean, I've gotten into bathrooms where like the whole bathroom's covered in hair, you know, like you're like, oh, but because we're airline, it this was annoying though, because we're airline.

Shawn

Um, I sent the picture to the management. I sent it to the um uh to their housekeeping. So three days later, I got this email back. I'm really sorry about this. We apologize. Um we take our housekeeping very seriously. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. That's it.

G

That's it. Yeah, man. And they probably remade the bed and next person slipping it, right?

Hotel Cleanliness Fail And Follow-Up

Shawn

Yeah. It was it was absolutely ridiculous, man. I mean, it was ridiculous. But after all that, then I got I got sick. I got that um that shit that was everybody was catching in their lungs. Yeah, so um, yeah, I spent the last you know, week and a half kind of healing, healing from that. So I'm I'm back at it now. I'm going back, I'm I'm going back to flying uh actually tomorrow. Respiratory stuff sucks. It sucks, but you always got the one thing the you know, flight attendants they go back too soon. Right. That's true. That's the one thing, right? Your ears, something's wrong. You know me. I mean, I don't I rarely ever call out sick. Right. But if I'm calling out sick, I'm I'm damn sure gonna make sure that I'm healthy before I go back.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

Shawn

Because what happens is you go back and all of a sudden you'll have ear block. Yep. Something else will something else will happen to you.

G

You can't like the skip, you know? No. You can't skip back into it. Like this isn't a normal job. No, so we get infected like so many other ways. And for those new flight attendants that think they could come back partially sick, they come back and they're gonna be right back out.

Shawn

And they get us sick, right? And then they get everybody else sick. Yeah, because they come back and they're like, Oh, I'm coughing, but I'm not contagious. I love that one. I'm coughing, but I'm not contagious.

G

Yeah, if you're coughing, put on a damn mask and get out of my face.

Shawn

So we talked about how much uh fun we had this week. Let's go around the globe. Yeah, all right. Let's go around the globe. So they had this 76-year-old man. There had a few incidents this uh this past week. Uh so he didn't have any bend space left. You know what he did? No, he made a bomb threat.

G

Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna work. That's gonna get you some space. Yeah, a lot of space. So square space about 10 by 10. What the hell were you thinking? I mean, seriously, what were you thinking? Stupid. Dumb. I don't know. I the knee-jerk reaction of people are so stupid. They they think they they think they just could say stuff and get away with it. That's that's the problem. Like certain aspects, even though our country is very like open for you to be able to have First Amendment rights and all that stuff, there's still shit that you can't say. Bomb. Yeah, in certain situations, that ain't gonna work.

Shawn

Yeah, especially on an airplane, right? Right? That just one word is gonna get you it's gonna get you a new seat assignment.

G

Yeah, and everybody's gonna look at you, whether you are joking, you can be laughing your ass off and be like, ah, no, no, bomb. Yeah, yeah. They're gonna take you very seriously.

Shawn

Big fine. Yeah, big fine. Yeah, you're gonna be in trouble. So I also seen that the you did you watch any of that the NFL combine? No, not at all. Okay, so I I seen this one click and I I just had to laugh. Joe Dirt.

G

Joe Dirt?

Getting Sick And Returning Fit To Fly

Shawn

Yeah, they they were talking about this this guy, his name was uh Will Jennings Dunker. He's uh offensive line for Iowa, right? Sean, man, this dude, this dude is huge, right? He's big, but he had the freaking biggest mullet that I've ever seen. He had a red mullet shooting off the back of it, Joe Dirt mullet. Joe Dirt, man. Who I don't know, man. I just like this some of these hair dudes. I'm it was forget about the combine. You you're right. You can only focus at his this hairdo, man. This this big red mullet that he had going on.

G

If he was trying to get attention, he succeeded.

Shawn

He did, right? Yeah. So the weather's starting to change also. Around here, we get a lot of balloons. Yeah. Did you see did you see that picture of that balloon? The balloon that was stuck on that radio tape.

G

I had heard about it. I didn't see the picture of it, but that's terrible, man. 900 feet up. First of all, would you go in a balloon? Yeah, I already did it. Really? I've done it. I'm not doing it. It's awesome. I don't care. You try to get me jump out of a parachute, too. Yeah, it's awesome. You try like flying a balloon, then I would tell you, like, you know, 99.9, probably even more than that percent of the time, nothing's gonna happen, right? But um you talk to them, it's not that they got that 0.1%. Like, so the first time I did it, what we did it over Napa. Right. So, like all balloon rides, usually they're gonna send you off like early, crack of dawn, like when you wake, when you're normally up, like it's gonna send you off early than that because they want low winds, move, they don't really don't want any winds whatsoever. But with winds that are moving, They're like testing where the winds are going. So they're like gonna literally lift the balloon up and bring the balloon down, and they know where they're gonna bring it down to. And actually, there's balloon pilots, right? So they can guide the balloon where they want it by the dwind directions, right? But it's a zero sensation. You're floating, you're literally floating. You don't even know, you don't have there's no movement whatsoever.

Shawn

So you're 900 feet up in the air, stuck on a radio tower. Yeah, that's not good. And there's two of you, and there's one that's a pilot, right? Yeah. Are you going back up with that guy? No. That guy lost his license.

G

Not to mention, what about getting electrocuted?

Shawn

That's what I'm saying. But just but the rescue. I mean, just think about the rescue, 900 feet in the air.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, dude.

Shawn

They didn't have to, I'm gonna have to go back and look at the rescue because that that's gonna be interesting.

Around The Globe: Bomb Threats And Consequences

G

Yeah, I have a I have a friend. Well, I didn't I didn't have a friend. I have a family friend in my past history that actually was hang gliding and hit power lines. Really? Yeah, and got electrocuted to death.

Shawn

I wonder if they helicoptered if they dropped somebody in. I bet you they had to. There's no way. Yeah, because you're gonna get electric if you get grounded, you're gonna be fried instantly. Yeah, that that wouldn't be any fun. So, anyhow, what else? They had the the in Hong Kong, you just see the guy that was kicking over all the kiosks. So, yeah, he got pissed off and and um he he went in there and uh he was kicked, he kicked over like 10 kiosks. But when he was arrested, he was arrested because he had four Viagra pills with no prescription. That's what he in Hong Kong they get arrested for having Viagra? Yeah, two years imprisonment,$100,000 for Viagra alone.

G

Dude, they'd like literally arrest the whole city of Vegas.

Shawn

I just thought that was funny. I'm like, wait a minute. So what'd you go to prison for? Not kicking over kiosks, yeah.

G

Right? Not not damaging shit. I got arrested because I my little blue pill. My pinky wanted to get hard.

Shawn

So my god. Okay, going back to not so funny. We had another uh attempted breach of the flight deck shortly after takeoff in Atlanta. Dude, so ridiculous. We've had a lot of things happen here recently.

G

Yeah, there's a lot of in a lot of shit going on in the world right now.

Shawn

People don't pay attention, they they really don't pay attention to these videos, right? These people go to jail. You guys realize you're going to jail. Yeah.

G

You can't you can't joke about this stuff, people.

Shawn

Right.

G

Like you can't. Yeah.

Shawn

Now here's another one. An employee this is an employee. So an employee um was uh saying that there was a bomb in the elevator. Another one. Did you see this one? So he he messaged another employee uh saying that it was, and then messaged back saying, Oh, I was just joking.

G

How do you think that went over? Yeah, lead brick, like a fallen elevator.

Shawn

Yeah, well, he had a mugshot.

G

Yeah, he had got a mugshot, all right. So you work for the airlines, you did all this to do something that damn stupid. You just went through that whole interview process that we were just talking about. You got finally got to be do the job and all this stuff, and you do something stupid like that. Another stupid another bomb person, yeah. People quit joking about it. Nobody thinks it's funny, not funny. Zero.

Shawn

All right, the last one we're gonna talk about before we get out of here. So the Sahara Desert watched this video and seen these uh these people. Have you ever dealt with locusts?

G

Um, not like in a swarm situation, but you know, I've dealt with them before. Right. I remember like as a kid, I was out in Colorado and they had a big locust, like every seven years, isn't it? Or whatever, yeah. And it was they weren't like in swarm, but they was when you were out there, they were everywhere.

Shawn

It's not locust. What are the other ones? The the the search withas.

G

Yeah.

Shawn

Every seven years, right?

G

Yeah, every seven years.

Shawn

Okay, that's what it reminded me of. Oh, but it was worse. So they had this video and they they were driving all of a sudden they had this swarm of locusts in the Sahara Desert. Oh, yeah. And it was unbelievable.

G

It was just like pelting against the car. Dude, those things are nasty and they're vicious, dude. They'll eat everything. They'll eat, I mean, the locusts will like eat cloth, eat whatever. They'll just eat anything. Anything they can put in their dang mouth. But you know what it reminds me of here in uh northeast Ohio is those Canadian soldiers that come over every year. Like on the Great Lakes, they'll come over and you'll see these black cloud of smoke, it looks like, just like swarming around and moving in there. And you're thinking, at first you're thinking, oh, are those birds? Then you realize it's just nothing but millions and millions of these insects.

Shawn

We have we have uh a place called Cedar Point. About two years ago, we're waiting on Millennium at night. And and we're waiting for the the the cart to come in, you know, as you're going. And the one that came in went into a freaking swarm of those things. Uh Sean, it was the funniest damn thing you ever seen. They were completely covered. Covered with insects, insects, hair, mouth, everything. They were trying to blow them out of their nose. Yeah. Everything. Their shirts were covered.

Odd News: Mullet Watch, Balloons, And Kiosks

G

Oh, it was I can't even imagine because you're like strapped in there. You you have no choice but to go right through the choice. And whatever you ate, you ate. Do you need anything to eat? No. Yeah. Thanks for being at Cedar Point, and here's your appetizer. Yeah, those Canadian soldiers are some type of they're a form of Mayfly. So it's just they're mayflies basically, but they come in the millions every year here. They came in splattered all over those people, man. People that own boats and stuff on the Great Lakes, they hate them because they come in, they disdain the boats. Yeah. Like black spots everywhere in the boats. Yep. It's a pain. Anyways, so uh what's the inspirational quote?

Shawn

Inspirational quote this week: believe deep in your heart that you can and you're halfway there.

G

Yep. Right? Yep. All you gotta do is have some belief, man. Absolutely.

Shawn

But hey, listen, everybody, we again we we appreciate you guys listening every single week. And again, it out to everyone that is not home safe, return safe. Uh, we hope that you guys uh get back to your families and your loved ones, and we hope to see you back at work.

G

Yep, we are thinking about every service member out there in the world that is out there helping us protect us and keep up safe here in the United States, and we thank each and every one of you for it. We do. Thank you. We'll see you next week.

Shawn

See you next week, you guys. Take care.

G

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