Pop Culture Hour: Epstein Files & Influencer Kids: We React to the Internet’s Darkest Moments

In this raw, wide-ranging Pop Culture Mom Talk episode, Sam and Zara are joined by new co-host Rachel Gibbs (@rachonlife) for an unfiltered conversation about what’s flooding women’s algorithms — and why it feels so overwhelming right now.

They unpack everything from toxic TV relationships like Tell Me Lies to the unsettling ripple effects of the Epstein files, the Blake Lively / Justin Baldoni discourse, and why so many women feel like pop culture has crossed from escapism into emotional overload.

The conversation weaves through influencer ethics, why more moms are pulling their kids off social media, how motherhood changes your tolerance for “hot mom” culture, and what it really means to parent intentionally in a world that feels increasingly unsafe and unregulated. From unaccompanied minors on flights to uncomfortable truths about privacy, power, and who actually gets held accountable — nothing is off-limits.

It’s funny, uncomfortable, validating, and very much a reflection of the moment we’re all living in. If your algorithm feels dark, confusing, or too real lately — you’re not alone. 

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Transcript

Meet The New Co-Host

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey everybody, we are back with our pop culture mom talk hour. Um, and we have a special guest. We have a new co-host for this segment, Rachel on Life or Rachel Life. Um, Rachel Gibbs, I guess you you actually have a last name. Um, welcome. Hi, I'm so glad to be here. We've been trying getting three moms on three different time zones to schedule this.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

That's the it's the time zones.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Time zones and the snowstorms and the sicknesses and all the things. Yeah. So this has been a month we've been trying to do this, but what we want to do with this segment is talk about pop culture, but also what we're seeing on our algorithms because our algorithms are so different. And if you're on TikTok versus Instagram versus wherever you are, um, and so we want to talk about the things that we're finding the most interesting as they relate to moms and women. And so um you got two type C girls and a type B lady on here with Zara. So say I'm C. You're C. Okay, I'm type C too.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

So if I didn't have 37 reminders and alarms in my phone, I would forget to literally brush my teeth. Like that's like where my like sparkly neurodivergent autism brain goes is like I absolutely detest like hygiene. I clean myself frequently.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

I feel like I need like once a month.

SPEAKER_02 1:23

Right, right. No, like I take my daily or my yeah, my monthly.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Rachel, you are not B plus. You are firmly in a B or a C. You think so? Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Like you're I'm a I'm a hygiene freak. No, I'm like two showers a day, a B plus get into bed without showering.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Okay, yeah, and then I guess I'm gonna be all the time or

Type A, B, C And Hygiene Confessions

SPEAKER_02 1:46

you always use a top sheet, right? Yeah, so people. I okay, this is like some people have a vendetta against top sheets for some reason. I don't know. They say that they're a waste of time and that it's like a they do get kicked to the bottom all the time, but not not in my house. No, I want that top sheet up because it is what I get my body funk on, and then I don't have to wash this giant comforter every week. I wash my sheets every week.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

That's a weird one. I have talked to a lot of so like a lot of type A moms that I'm friends with, when you talk to them, they're actually like not doing their sheets every week, but their house is very clean. And I'm like, but but what do you mean you do your sheets once a month? Like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, no, or or they don't wash their clothes from goodwill because we all think. No, coming like a girl who has to set an alarm to brush her teeth. That's gross. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Wait, I have a question. I have a question for you guys. How do you feel about if you do laundry? Like, say you have a laundry basket, do your laundry, dry your laundry. Do you put it back in the same basket that the dirty clothes were in?

SPEAKER_00 2:51

You know, I shake out the basket, and if there is dirt, I will wipe it down. But yeah, that has been I get do you?

SPEAKER_02 2:59

That's a good question. I have like a rotation of laundry bins, right? Like I have like a stack of them that sit up on top of the dryer. And so, like when things are done, I'll take whatever is in the dryer out into one bin, take that into our room. And I usually have like another load of dirty clothes ready to go into the washer in another bin.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

I'll see if it looks like are they color-coded? How do you know that this is the correct? But for Zara, Zara keeps them separate.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

So I do a bag now. I do a bag and then I put it in with my stuff.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

Wait. You just put one bag in the laundry?

SPEAKER_01 3:32

No, I put it in with the load.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Okay, so you like throughout your own bag. What kind of the bag and then throw the bag in too? Yeah. Okay. That was like when when I was a kid, my mom would take my dad's um work clothes to the like to the dry cleaners. My dad was like suit and tie every day, very business, yeah, nine to five. And I remember he had like a laundry bag that like he put all of like his stuff in that my mom would take to the dry cleaners.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

The dry cleaners, the bane, I I like will not dry L is like my best friend, and I'm like, I really like to iron, um, but I never do, which is yeah, like I love ironing. It's just the putting the stuff away. I cannot I don't own an iron.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Yeah, I don't think I do either.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

My husband likes steaming, but I always burn myself.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

Got a steamer. I'm a pro with my steamer. I need to see if Ryobi has a steamer. That would be an awesome one. Because I love all their like handheld.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

I don't know what one we have. Uh you can see it here in the corner. Oh, you got it. He like wanted one that he can hang it, and I'm like, cool. And he hasn't used it in a year. But um, so pop culture has kind of been a dumpster fire this week. And I think Rachel and I, my our algorithms are kind of similar. Zara, do you want to kick it off with like the things that you're seeing that you find really interesting online?

SPEAKER_01 4:55

So I'm seeing a lot of tell me lies. That's a lot of my algorithm right now. Tell me lies theories. Um, I'm seeing a lot of this, like, I don't even know how to describe it, but like uh like the hot mom self-care stuff. Have you guys been seeing a lot of this stuff too?

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Like, know what you're talking about. I haven't seen it until it's inundating my feed, is what I'm saying. What is it?

SPEAKER_01 5:18

So I sent Sam this one video

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SPEAKER_01 5:20

I came across, but it was like this woman who was saying something about how married women are like you're supposed to have a look, but if you're like well provided for, you don't, because all you have to worry about if you're well provided for is looking good, and you know, the kids are with the nanny and you're going to Pilates, and I'm like, who the fu like you do people think that's normal? Some people do live like that. Listen, like I could live like that, okay? That yeah, I but I don't. And like boring. Yeah, like and I know who could live like that and don't.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

Exactly. There aren't enough people that can live like that to make living like that enjoyable or attainable because it's like no one can keep up with you if the Joneses are doing that.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Yeah. Also, it's just boring. I guess technically, I think we all could live like that, but that sounds really boring.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

I'd rather be like, copy and paste.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's what you're saying. Tell me lies. Did y'all ever date a Steven?

SPEAKER_02 6:20

I never watched any of it. I know nothing about Tell Me Lies. He's basically a psychopath.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Did you ever date a psychopath?

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Yeah.

unknown 6:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

You, Rachel, read the book and watch the show. They're both really oh, it's a book? And it's like it's really different. The perfect show for the millennials because it's Rachel, are you late 30s too?

SPEAKER_02 6:40

I'm 31, so I'm early 30s.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Wow. Okay, so you're quite a bit younger, but so it was exactly the years I was in college.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Then it's like the music is perfect. There's these crazy college parties. It's great.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

I love that. Yeah. No, I have an older sibling. So I was like, I'm I was born in '94. And I think anybody between like 94 and probably like 99, if you had a sibling that was older than you, like in the true millennial stuff, you kind of got sucked up into that, right? Like my husband is four and a half years older than me, and I know all the shows and stuff from his childhood because my brother was closer to his age, sort of thing. But yeah, no, I haven't watched any of the Tell Me Lies.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

You would really like it, I feel like. Yeah, I think you would.

unknown 7:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Sorry, did you ever date a Steven? I feel like you didn't.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Not that bad, but like, you know, Steven is kind of a heightened version of I think every bad college boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Yeah. Mine was post-college. I got engaged to him for like two weeks, and then I was like, okay, I remember he went and he bought a firearm and didn't tell me, and like went off his meds, and I was like, I gotta get out. Um but like, yeah, that was like it was in my early 20s, right after college, and we worked together, and it was just like, I was like, what it I don't I don't know. Um, the Stevens of the world are real. I think they're crazy. And they're never hot. They're never hot. Never. They're always mine.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

I mean, I've had I dated this one crazy guy like the summer before. Hang on, I'm gonna go my dogs in, they're gonna keep barking. You know how dogs are these giant dogs. Um, but no, I dated this guy the summer before, I guess summer before Paul and I met, and he was crazy, absolute crazy. He was, I don't, I don't want to like dog on the Marines, but he was a Marine. And it's one of those, like, if you know, you know situations. It was one of those, yeah. But no, my college boyfriend was fairly normal.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

He has, I mean, only nine fingers, so that's maybe if you watch Tell Me Lies, the nine fingers would have you. You don't need to worry about a missing finger.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Yeah, that was that was the sorry, go ahead. No, it's like that was the most uh off the wall thing about him. He's pretty straight-laced. I mean, just yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

What's really interesting about Tell Me Lies though is

Algorithms: Tell Me Lies And “Hot Mom” Aesthetic

SPEAKER_01 9:05

that they really don't romanticize this guy. Like I feel like we grew up with so many shows where there were these horrible men who were romanticized.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

The toxic relationships, and that's what I've seen. Okay, so my for you page is all heated rivalry. And so, like, all my friends that are watching both Heated Rivalry and Tell Me Lies are like, oh, it's the most wholesome love story followed by the most toxic.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

So I like is heated rivalry wholesome?

SPEAKER_00 9:31

It's not, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Isn't it about the most wholesome thing ever? I mean, yes, there's a lot of gay sex, huh? But it is oh the most sweet story. Oh, it's so good.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Everybody keeps telling me to watch it, and I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

So good. The book is written like it's written for 12-year-olds. The the just the literature is just not good. Yeah. But the show is fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Okay, I'll check it out because I do need something. I tried to watch Beauty with Ashton Kutcher. Right? Have either of you tried to watch it?

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Don't.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

It is, especially after reading the Epstein files, which I know Rachel and I have a lot of uh comments on. Um, yeah, but it is like after reading the files and watching that, I had my husband watch it with me and we're like, nah, we're good. We are good. It's basically about like paying your way through, but you kind of like like to look better, but you're you kind of turn into a demon and then you're like that's what happens. It's like I was like a can't. I I was like so disturbed. And so what have I been seeing? I other than basically mine is Blake Lively, Baldoni, and the Epstein Files.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Okay, yeah, that's what it is I've heard some of the Baldone, Blake Lively stuff. Um, I am really as like a diehard Swifty. I'm kind of disappointed in Taylor. I'm I'm disappointed in her. She should not have said she didn't do anything and do it, like it like girl, you're you're in the middle of a lawsuit.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

You can't lie, it's gonna come out. I think that's what's interesting is like when you do, and we're seeing it with men and women right now, right? When you get to the billionaire status, like, are there any ethical billionaires? Because what you have to do to get there, and I don't think there is, and I'm saying this as somebody like I like Taylor Swift, I saw her heiress to her. I, you know, but I just don't think now I'm like so disillusioned with everything. Like I I sold my Bitcoin last night. I didn't have a full one, but I like got rid of all of my Bitcoin since Epstein was one of the people who created it. And I like, I just I've had my husband's like, you sound crazy. And and for anyone who's not following all of this, um, you probably are gonna think we're crazy, but yeah, it not everything is coming out in the media, but like as you're reading through these files, at least for me, I've been actually reading them and I'm like, I it's insane. My head is scrambled.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Y'all seen the like Jmail, like how they have everything like in like a Gmail format, right? You can search like through photos, through videos, you can see yeah, emails from people's names, text messages, like every single bit of information is there and it is sickening.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yeah, my husband's like, you literally sound like you're crazy. And I'm like, I yeah, I get it. I'm like, I I don't know. Yeah. Um so that's basically all I'm seeing, other than what so it mine is really heavy, so I probably have to have y'all send me, especially you, Zara, send me some some more links to kind of clear out my because it is I'm like having tell me lies videos. Okay, I'm having I I am seeing tell me lies. Um, I've gotten a little bored with this season, and yeah, I don't know how they're gonna wrap it up. Yeah, and so that has been, I've been a little disappointing because like I'm like, come on. Um, I kind of feel like they're setting it up to take Steven to jail, is what it feels like to me. Like that it's all and maybe that's because I'm too chronically online and so I'm seeing all these series. Like, would it be more interesting if I wasn't online? Yeah. Um, other than that, what else is going on in the zeitgeist?

SPEAKER_01 13:09

You know, I'm seeing a lot of stuff about like the Olsen twins and Justin Bieber and like how people are looking at their stories so differently in light of all the Epstein file stuff.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Like the Yummy video. They have you guys seen the yummy video stuff.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

Watching that during the freaking pandemic. Like I swear to god, I remember it was like July or August of 2020, and I was sitting watching that video, and then there was like the whole Pizzagate situation because of adrenochrome, and I'm like, I can remember being like, this is crazy shit.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Especially because uh the first thing ever purchased with Bitcoin was pizza. That was the first purchase ever made with any sort of Bitcoin was pizza in New York. So like it's all like where I'm like sitting there and I'm like, oh god, like it's um how is there not how like how has nothing happened?

SPEAKER_02 14:03

That's my question. Because they close the case, nothing's gonna happen. They want pro like prosecution. So you're telling me that a man I went to church with my whole life, who was an elder at

Toxic Boyfriends, Millennial TV, And Heated Rivalry

SPEAKER_02 14:20

the church, who was just happened to be in a room and heard one side of a telephone conversation at Enron, went to prison for seven years.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Really?

SPEAKER_02 14:28

Because he heard half of a conversation.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

Or Martha Stewart, Martha Stewart, what did she make on her her trade with that center to jail? It was like five thousand dollars sent her to jail for like ten years.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

It's the dumbest uh like I it's almost scary to like be like someone just needs to like do it. Some we're all thinking it. Somebody just needs to do take one for the team, just just do it, right? Your commissary will never be empty. Like, yeah. Take one for the team.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

But it's but it's it's a whole system, and I think that's what's really been kind of and I felt like this working in corporate America too, where it's like, and I think this is kind of like bringing it back to moms, is like, I think if you are a stay-at-home parent who hasn't been in the corporate workforce, you might not see how women are treated on a day-to-day basis and might not think that sexism exists because in your household doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

I was literally told I was the least valuable um person in our organization when I was working in corporate America by a man.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Yeah. So like that kind of stuff. And if you're not being hit in the face, and that for me with like motherhood was so hard where I'm like getting hit in the face at work every single day by all these men who will not listen to me, who will not respond to me, and then they're like, it's your fault I'm not responding to you. And then like coming home and having my toddler and then fighting with my husband, I was like, I can't do this. But I could see how you might not think these things exist if it's not in your face every day. And I kind of feel like, um, and that's like happening with the files too. If you're not reading it, you don't know that this stuff is like happening because you just think it's your crazy friends who are like spreading some wacko conspiracy theory or sharing an AI post.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

And it's like, no, that's that was a file released by the DOJ. That was not AI.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Yeah. Well, and it's funny, I guess coming across my um for you page too is a lot of Bitcoin stuff and all these boomers talking about, yeah, like this is just like how Bitcoin is. It goes up and it goes down, which is very true. We so we're we were anticipating this crash. It's not related to anything. And everyone online is like, it's the files. Bitcoin is in the files.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

The boomers, like, do they just permanent? And like I hate saying this because like my in-laws are boomers and my in-laws are incredible. And like they are not the boomers we're talking about, right? But like so many of them, do they just come out of the womb with their head in the sand?

SPEAKER_00 16:43

I think it's they um, because my husband and I were talking about this too, because he gets on his mom because she doesn't know how to do things on technology and she'll start crying because she can't like order Instacart or whatever it is. And I'm like, but you have to have a little bit of grace because they grew up that they had just gotten television in their house. Like they did not have television. Like, and we we grew up, I grew up without the internet until high school. And so, like, because I'm older than y'all, and so I have a different perspective where I'm like, yeah, I grew, I grew up with like, I know what it was like before and then what it was like after.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Oh, yeah, we got, we got, we didn't get um like cable, DVR, internet, any of that until I was probably sixth grade, seventh grade. Like, I can remember dial up. I can remember days before that. I can remember when I would turn the TV on and we had whatever channels were on public television.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so I think I'm like our brains have kind of grown up learning how to live live in both worlds, whereas theirs didn't. Like a fax machine was like a huge deal. Like computers, huge deal. The the this a copy machine was like a big deal. And you know what? I bet I could not figure out how to work a printer or copy machine at this stage in my life.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

So my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

Yeah, I think it's just they don't understand like how chronically online so many people are. So I'll be interested to see how Bitcoin, if it does recover, because I was having that thought last night. I was like, nope, my morals are way too strong for me to participate in this any longer. Um so we'll see how that goes. I haven't been coming across a lot of parenting content lately. Have you all? Has that come across your not quite as well?

SPEAKER_02 18:22

Everything that every motherhood related thing that comes on my page is I am exhausted. It is scary right now. How do I tell my children what's going on? How do I not just break down crying every time I open my phone and I see something else that is just absolutely devastating?

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Like, yeah. Yeah. You know, I see a lot of, and I don't know how political we want to get here, but I see a lot of like being a stay-at-home mom is not hard. Like, you just need a routine, you need to figure out your house. And it's like so obviously always a conservative woman. And I think Sam and I started to talk about this a little bit, but I feel like part of the reason that maybe it is easier for them is because liberals are so much more intentional in our parenting, and we're so much more aware of everything else that is affecting our kids' future. And like we are carrying that on our shoulders. We are in like I see all these moms who are doing days in their lives, not once are they picking up a book and reading to their kids. Like, what do they do?

SPEAKER_02 19:28

They're like, we go to

Epstein Files, Blake Lively, And Disillusionment

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Target, like we walk around, then we went to the park, and it's like, congratulations, but like I put I shared something a couple of weeks ago talking about like the amount of children that are read to under the age of five. What is it? It's low.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

It's a shockingly low, right? Yeah, let me find it.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Hang on, there's water.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

Because I know my doctor, every time we went for a baby well check visit, they've always given us a book, and I'm like we always get a book. I'm like, I don't need this. Like, give it to somebody who needs like literally we have that book.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

Yeah, the state gives them out for us. Um okay, only about 40% of children under five are read to on a daily basis. And for boys, it's lower.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Really? Uh to be fair, boys are psychotic, and yes, and um, you also have to read to them. And what I have started doing, my husband, I I do bedtime routine, and so when my husband goes in to do bedtime, he's like, why is he not laying there? And I'm like, no, let him do his thing. He can color, he can build, he can do whatever while I read. And then he'll come over when he's interested or when there's, you know, um, when there's pictures, he'll come over. I saw Paige post about something because I tend to over-communicate with my son, and it is like he's always the one who is telling his friends about like things that are happening, and I've always felt kind of insecure about it because I don't want to be the family who is bringing it down. But she posted recently about Paige.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

Yeah, she doesn't have the luxury of doing that with her kids because she has two black kids, and so we I have like a big group text and pages in it, and we are actively talking about that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

And so I was like, Okay, I'm gonna take this as my permission, and I need to talk to my son about this. So I was telling him what's going on with like the ice raids and everything, and telling him about the five-year-old, and he was like, Well, does he have food? And I was like, not really, and not clean water. And he's like, That's really sad. And I'm like, Yeah, but I'm in the Bay Area, so there's a lot of homelessness, and we always drive by people on our way. And so I always bring a bunch of snacks for my son when I pick him up from school, and I had like this container full of snacks. My son was in the back eating his apple or something, and we pulled up, we were in hella traffic. And so I just stopped and I was like, Can I can I give this man your food? And I guess my son said only my yogurt, but I wasn't listening. So I just like handed it out the door. My son started crying because he's like, No, those are my snacks. And so then we had a whole conversation about like this might be this man's only food for the entire day. Yeah. And it he doesn't have a refrigerator. He doesn't have a stove. He doesn't even have a place to sleep. Whereas we can just go and we have two refrigerators where we can get you more yogurt, where we can get you more strawberries. You know, and it's one of those things where it is really hard. And he's like, Well, why are people poor? And and I'm like, you know, anyone could be in that situation given the right circumstance or the I guess the wrong circumstances. And and that's I think that is that's been, I think, the hardest with parenting at this age right now. It's like the curiosity. Well, like, how much do you want to traumatize them? But I'm like, talking about it isn't gonna traumatize them as well, exactly traumatize them as experience it or his friends getting taken or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

That's what makes being a parent hard, is where we have to find the language for these things and we have to explain it to them in a way that's appropriate, and we have to field all their follow-up conversations. And you know, if you're parenting intentionally, it's really hard.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

And that's yep, like Zara said, parenting intentionally. Do you talk to your kids about this kind of stuff, Zara? Yeah. And do their friends' parents talk to them about it? How old are your kids, Zara?

SPEAKER_01 23:01

They're seven. They're 20.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Yeah. Yeah, because I remember when the whole Charlie Kirk thing happened. I, you know, told my son, hey, here's what's going on. And he told his friend about it, and I was like, oh God, is that okay? But then it's like, but this is the news. This is literally what's happening.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

It's on the TV. He could have heard it. Alexa could have been saying it in the background. Like, you don't know.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Yeah, but I I do think it is like we can't shelter our kids so much because it's like there are people who are going through things out there.

SPEAKER_02 23:31

Uh-huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

When when all the snap benefits and stuff got cut off back in what was it, November? I went through our pantry and I was like, I'm just gonna go through it. Like, there are so many things that have been in here for several years that like I'm just not gonna touch. I don't use bone broth. But like I have a giant thing of bone broth in my pantry. I'm not gonna throw it out, right? So I get all the stuff out, and then you know, I buy like our like chicken broth and our rice and stuff. I buy bowls, so I like, you know, portion some stuff out, get it together. And Sam is asking me what I'm doing, and I'm like, well, you know, like we're really lucky that, you know, mom and dad can make enough money to pay for everything we need, right? Our house and our clothes and the lights, right? We've got to pay for food. Our food, and you know, we have food come to our door. We have our Hello Fresh meals, we have our snack boxes, we've got our Thrive, we've got them, we have, and like with my job as well, like as an influencer, I am getting snacks all the time. Like, one of my favorite things about this job is the amount of snacks my kids get for free is fantastic from delicious organic, dye free companies, right? And it's like, but it's also sometimes my kids take one bite and they're like, This is gross, yeah, but another child will love it. And it's this like organic, die free, perfect snack. So put them all together. I'm explaining, you know, this is we have the money to do this. And then I called over to our local school district. Um, and then I was able to take the stuff over to our like central office. And

Bitcoin, Boomers, And Media Blind Spots

SPEAKER_02 25:10

um, for Thanksgiving, kids that weren't guaranteed meals that have the free and reduced lunch, um, they like divvy it, packaged it out, and they because our um school district has a program that does that.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

But I think a lot of school districts do that in public school. Sorry, does yours do that?

SPEAKER_01 25:26

We do. We have something. Well, I don't want to say the name of it, but it's like uh our neighborhood cares thing. Yeah. Yeah, we do that.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Um yeah, the whole thing, it's all, and then it is one of those things like how many things do you throw out? Like, I think about like, you know, when my son's like, I am not eating that. I'm like, I'm starting to parent a little bit more like, hey, well, this is maybe I have to be a little bit more like a boomer.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Like, well, I don't want to be going great depression, finish your plate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

I mean, I honestly, I think some of the intuitive eating stuff that was really big a few years ago was just like so obscenely privileged.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Agreed, agreed. So I'm really good friends with um her name on Instagram is find food freedom.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

Um, Sam. And so we are we under the same management. Like, um, we're in this, she's in the group text. We were talking with Paige. Um, and I've talked with her about a lot of stuff. Um, and I I think everything that she says is great, but I do think there are some people that aren't professionals, right? Like Sam. Sam's a, she's like a registered dietitian, and like, oh exactly. That would be like me being like, you need to be intermittent fasting.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

Well, have you seen in Europe how influencers now have to be certified in whatever topic they're talking about or have a degree in it?

SPEAKER_02 26:49

And there needs to be legislation around influencing so bad. Like, I love that California has started having their creators, like, if your children are featured in a certain amount of your content and you have to like pay your children.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

That's why all the influencers are moving to Nashville.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Well, yeah, but like, so my friend Melissa, another one of my friends in that same group text, she has um a teenager, and like he sometimes gets some brand deals that she posts on her page, and so it's like he's getting the money. So, like, she's done that for him. She's following the rules. Unlike all the others that are just moving to Nashville.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

Yeah, another big liberal conservative divide I've noticed is how much or if at all you show your kids. Agreed. Yeah, that's uh agreed.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

That is, and we talked to Fortessa recently, it hasn't come out, but it is like you make more money if you show your kids. Like that's just like 100%. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Oh, yeah. My I probably make half as much as I did when I made when I saw my videos. My views were sky high because I would always start my videos out like with like me and Sam, like our faces smushed up together. Me and Hazel, our faces smushed up together. Really? And then now I don't do that. Yeah. And I literally posted a video like just a couple of days ago talking about I'm not gonna be posting any bits of them anymore. I'm not gonna be showing the backs of their heads. I'm not the the amount of AI CP out there is disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

Yeah. Okay, this is related, but did you see the head of Chuck E. Cheese just had to step down because he was in the file? Yup, saw that one too. So have you been to Chuck E. Cheese lately? Pizza. They take your photo, they take the kid's photo on one of the little interactions, and I was like, huh, that's interesting. And they like print out and give Polaroids and stuff. And now I'm like, do I need to see where those that information are? And I think, you know, next time we go back, because we have a lot of birthday parties that we've been attending at Chuck E. Cheese, and I'm like, I think I'm just gonna be like, you're not allowed on that one, or we don't go on that way because like what is going on? Like, I didn't even think of it. And then I was like, this guy was in the files and is stepping down, and it's like, but it doesn't even mention it in the articles why he's stepping down. And it's like you need to say why. If you're on TikTok, you know why.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

And like, but but just like think about all the CCTV that's out there. Like your kid walks into Turkey Cheese that are being recorded already, and some laptop farm is harvesting all that information and selling it to some person in who knows where. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Yeah. Sam, I know when we talked to Fortesa, I know that we were all talking about like when the school has posted pictures of our kids without permission. I went back and checked because it was a summer camp that my kids went to last year that posted them on their Instagram, posted my daughter. Um, and I went back and I made sure I did check no on the form and they still posted it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

I need to email my son school, actually. I I keep forgetting to because I feel like weird. But after this, I'm like, okay, we're gonna email the head of school.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

I don't think schools should be allowed to post children's faces, like at all. Period. Yeah point blank, period, unless it is stock photo from like shutter stock, like whatever image search you get, but it should not be the students in your district. That is so reckless for those kids. Like you log on to like our school district yesterday. I logged in because I wanted to see when our spring break was because I was booking an Airbnb, and I logged in to see what weeks it were. There was a picture of four kids just like hanging out on the front page, and I'm just like a predator's just birthday party right here.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Like and we literally sound insane right now. So, listeners, we have not gone off the deep end. We're still gonna bring you our normal content. This is just what's flooding our feeds. If you would have, if we would have been able to record this a month ago, you would have been hearing about the mom talk drama or the the drama of Mandy Moore and Uh-huh, Christy Carlson Romano, Hillary Duff, that whole group, right? Yeah, Ashley Tisdale, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

That whole Tisdale, that was what it was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

Yeah. I just had an interesting thing in my own mom group happen. Um, and I could talk about that. Um because I I mean there's no names or anything, but we had this family that we really love and we love hanging out, but every time we hang out with them, their child is really mean to my child and hits hits him. And the only times he's ever gotten injured in his life, like head injuries, anything, have been from this child, like hitting him in the head. They're older, they're a little bit older. Um, so my son is five, so they're all five. And so it still happens, and like there's old to know, like old enough to know.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

It's not like Hazel. Like my daughter's like two and a half, almost three. Like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes there's no malice behind it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

TK kindergarten. And

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SPEAKER_00 31:40

um, so my son actually requested to take a break from the friendship because the other thing too is the kid has meltdowns a lot, and there's like a lot of like, so I have to do a lot of regulating of my son when he gets home because he's been hurt. The kid has said something mean. And I don't know what mean is to a kid, right? It could be like, I'm faster than you, right? Like, who knows what mean is. But the fact that he was able to tell me, like, hey, he this kid is mean to me. I don't want to hang out with him. My other friends aren't mean to me, especially now that he has new friends in his school. And I think he's he's learning a lesson. I think a lot of us learned where you kind of accept friendship from people because you don't have other options or you don't know what is to it, what is a good friendship, and then you are treated well by someone and you're like, well, this friend's not nice to me. Um, and so we were kind of like avoiding it because he was like, Don't tell the mom, don't tell the mom. So I guess we didn't see them for a couple of months, and then we hung out again and there were meltdowns again, and and he he was like, I don't want to hang out with him, kind of thing. And um finally I really love the mom, and my husband loves the dad, and it's really hard because we're family friends. And finally, you know, she and I were at lunch and I was like, Yeah, here is why, you know, like I my son didn't want me to tell you before, but he says that, you know, your son hurts him and is mean to him, and he just needs a break, and maybe we can come back, you know, once things get better. And uh, and I was telling my son, I was like, you have to let me tell the mom so she can address it so that they can change, but I don't think she's going to. Because when I was like, Yeah, you know, it's really important, this is how you kind of learn through you have to give feedback to friends. You don't just ghost friends, you have to tell them what's upsetting you. Um, and so that's been really hard because now, and she was like, you know, this is gonna change the dynamic of our friendship, just like by we're not hanging out as a family and stuff. And that that has been hard because she was a really good friend, but like it is one of those things where it's like you have to get over your people pleasing and like because we've known about this for like probably a good year now, and it's like you keep going back because you just love the parents, and now it's like, okay, we're gonna try to hang out with just the parents, but yeah, um, I I'm sure she was probably upset about it, but it's like, oh, what would you all have done? Would you have just kind of like brushed it off?

SPEAKER_02 33:54

Like so I am the mom of the kid that's a little bit aggressive, right? So Sam is that way, and I don't say like aggressive, like he's not doing that, but like I have a kind of similar situation. Um, a friend of mine, um, her son is my son's a June birthday and her son's an October birthday, but her son's older, right? So he's a solid, like, what is that, like eight months older or whatever. Um, and my son is very rambunctious. He is Wait, how old is he? Sam is four. Okay. And so this situation was back when Sam was probably like a fresh three, and or maybe not even. I don't even think he was three yet. He may have been like two and a half, almost three. Anyway, it was we tried to get them together, and it was just like you could tell that like my son was just getting in her son's space too much. He just did not like it. And like my son's like, come look, let's go do this, and like trying to like grab him by the arm and pull him into the playroom. He was just not having it. And like, I mean, we went to birthday parties, but like they're four and five now, and like we don't I love. Did they ever talk to you about it? No, but I love her still. Like, I saw her at the gym just the other day. But like, we don't do birthday parties, she doesn't invite us to birthday parties anymore. And I know it's because her son doesn't like my son, and that's fine, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:17

She never said anything about it, so I mean, I I now that I'm thinking about it, it's a little weird, but like a lot of people don't like all all of my parent friends were like, don't say anything, just let it fade out. And I'm like, but she asks to hang out all the time and asked me point blank, like, is there something going on? And oh, so and like I just I wanted to provide feedback because my son is this child's only friend, really. And um, so it's I'm like, I just don't think it's kind because I was the kid who was like obsessed with one friend and would only play with that friend, and then when that friend didn't want to play, I didn't understand why and nobody told me. And so I just I'm like, I feel like even if she doesn't tell him that's her choice as a parent, right? But uh yeah, Zara, what would you say? She knows now. Yeah, Zara, what we know then.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

I don't I feel like I would let it fade out. I'm not good at I'm not good at the head on.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

Yeah. My husband was just like, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. And I was like, I would love to be the kind of person who says it, but I'm just I'd love to be the person who didn't have to say, like it literally was like eating my soul because I'm like, and then I started looking around too, because we had fallen off with some other friends before because none of those friends would hang out with this kid. They were like, we they won't the girls wouldn't come over if that kid was there. And I realized it was like actually impacting our other friendships, and I hadn't even noticed it. So now we're spending time with those other people again, and it's like kind of like common denominator situation. Yeah, it's one of those things where, and I know girls and boys are like, I only want to hang out with girls, I want to hang out with boys. And then my my son, uh, he can kind of bridge that gap. But yeah, it was one of those things where you don't see it and then you kind of like step back and you're like, oh, this was like impacting my life in a major way. And I still love the mom. I think she's great, and you know, it sucks too because like they were there for us when we were going through marital issues, and like, you know, now I'm like they're going through things in their life and I want to be there for them, and I can't be because it's like my son doesn't feel safe, and I don't think it's fair to him. So uh she could write a whole mom talk Ashley Tisdale thing about what a jerk I am. Um, so I think it's interesting to look at it from a different side because these are real things that happen in friendships and life.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

And no, I mean, I've definitely I uh it wasn't like even a friend breakup, but back in like December, I realized that someone that was kind of kind of a friend, kind of a friend of a friend situation had like unfollowed me on everything. And I was just like, that's weird. Not even muted, unfollowed, unfollowed, and like we live like three streets away from each other. We're and um so I find this out, I don't say anything. I ask a couple other friends that we have that are in common, and they very clearly knew like they were like, um we're just gonna like not say anything, right? And I was just like, Did y'all know this? And they were like, it's not our business. And I was like, Oh, so she's talked to y'all

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SPEAKER_02 38:20

about me, but not to you. Yeah, and so my issue with my friends that were there was if someone is trying to start shit and talk about a friend of yours, ladies, we're in our 30s. We are going to tell people when people are trying to start shit about them.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

Yeah, but I also felt like, you know, I did talk to other friends to be like, how should I handle this? And then I was like, I shouldn't be talking to other people about this, I should be talking to the person.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

But she wasn't asking how do I handle this? She was just like venting slash trying to get them to like join her side or whatever. And it all started because back in the summer, she's a photographer, and um, she was doing like minis at her house. And um the way that the setup was was like, it was honestly terrible. You walked in the front door and she had like the hallway walking in, but her backdrop was covering the entire hallway. So you had just like a couple steps from like where the door swings in to like where the whole setup was, and there's kids running around behind it. The kids are walking back and forth around it. We take the pictures, my son trips and falls, and the backdrop rips. Whatever it's able to be salvaged, she makes it work for the rest of the thing, blah, blah, blah. Um, I get home and I get a text from her and she's like, hey, like I know totally accidents happen, but like, would you be willing to split like the replacement cost with me? And I was like, girl, I will just replace it. Like my kid fell on it. Like, I will replace it. And then I said, but I paid for two sessions that were like $150 a piece or something ridiculous for like a 20-minute session, and you shot my each and you shot my kids for like 17 minutes total. Like, I didn't even get one full session, and I paid for two. And she was like, You need to pay your balance, and also will you split this? And I was like, I will buy it for you. And I was like, But you need to refund me for the first one, like, or for the second one. Like, that's not gonna do that. And after that, I never heard from her again. It's not that we weren't, I wouldn't even say we were friends, like we literally never hung out one-on-one, but it was just the like well, leave like leave well enough alone. No one's doing anything, and like I have other things to say, but I'm not going to for the energy.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Yeah, it's hard, man. It's it's like one of those things where it's like, I don't know, uh parenting, they don't prepare you for like the dynamics of motherhood either.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

It's so awkward because it's like if your kids like each other and you don't, if you like each other and your kids don't, if you like one friend and that friend likes that friend, but that friend doesn't like you, and all three kids don't get along and but and the husbands don't get along. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

You literally have to have to have the husbands, the kids, the moms, and then the proximity has to be close. And like honestly, they have to go. I'm starting to get to the point where I'm like, they kind of have to go to the same school. Like, at least for us where we are right now, it's like really difficult because it's like, unless you've already really established that friendship and they're able to be like we have two girlfriends that my son has grown up with, they were like two of his first friends, and they have been like in his life, and we all get along so well that we haven't let any of the kids drop off. And so it's like, no, this is just other than them, it's really hard for us to maintain friendships with folks who aren't at school because it's like, okay, we have this school birthday, we have that school birthday, this school function, and it's like there's just actually not that much time.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

But yeah, my best friend is uh her husband got served yesterday pieces. Yeah, he's the worst. Um, and like literally from the time my husband met him, he was like, uh-uh, that guy sucks. We don't like him. And our other, so it's like there's three of us. It's like of our little friend group. So my husband was like, he sucks. And then our other friend, her husband was like, no, he sucks. We don't like him. Turns out there's a whole reason. So I'm not gonna air her dirty laundry, but yes, if the husband does not get along, yeah. Just divorce him.

SPEAKER_00 42:35

Just divorce him. Yeah, I think the whole thing, the whole thing's complicated. I'm really hopeful that next week my my algorithm is gonna be back to a little bit less doom and gloom. Yeah, because it's uh I think the Super Bowl's gonna be interesting. Yeah, the something that came up in the Epstein files as well about it all being fixed.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Really?

SPEAKER_02 42:57

I'm very interested to see the Bad Bunny performance, and the president is not supposed to be attending the Super Bowl, which is odd. Um does the president usually go? Trump does.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

He was there last time, right? And then Trump always goes, but he likes to make it about him. He's actually like running the country, so he probably didn't go.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Yeah, he wasn't having kid rock concerts.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

I feel like Clinton was there. Oh my gosh, yeah. Um we uh this is gonna get cut out because it's not my business, but my husband has his uh sales kickoff for the year, and he's in sales operations. Yeah, Mark this and kick it. Um and they're going to Nashville and they're leaving next week. And he so he just got like the attire and all of this stuff, and it's Western fame hockey talk, of course. But they're having the welcome dinner at Kid Rock's bar. No, and I was like, and so Dave was like, What? Out of all the places you could do it in Nashville. You choose like a major, like they could have picked Morgan Wallen, but even him, he's on the same side, like they're both huge. MAGA supporters, and it's like why would you pick a politically active place to have it? Like, just have a topic, Dark Bentley. Or just like go to like, I'm sure there's a hard rock. Just go somewhere like super neutral, super corporate, go to Cheesecake Factory, you know. Like, I don't know. It was one of those things where he's like, and then so I have a lot of in my reselling business, I have a lot of like Western attire. It's like what sells best for me.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Um, and so I will you send me a link to your shop? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we have rodeo in

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SPEAKER_02 44:30

Houston. Like the one just let me know.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

I'll give it to you for whatever rodeo. Whatever, whatever I pay, I'll give it to you for. Um, but the I was like getting him outfitted because I'm like, oh dude, I have this Pendleton shirt with horses and these bolo ties, and I'm and vintage Levi's, and so I'm dressing him up. And he's like, I feel awkward. He's like, this is like cosplaying something I don't like. And I was like, yeah, that's the yeah. And um, he's like, it just doesn't feel like politically okay right now because he's like so funny. Probably.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

And then it's like the Texas liberals were like, ye fucking haw. You are not stealing this from us. Yeah, you left your fashion from caballeros.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Like that's I I think that's the thing he feels uncomfortable about too, is like the Mexican appropriation. Yeah, all of that from it. Yeah. But um okay. Do we have anything else we want to cover or do we want to go into listening? Do you want me to talk about my flight attendant story? Oh, yeah, yeah. I know you wanted to talk about that. Do you see, um, Zara, did you see that Rachel posted about an experience that she had involving children on a flight?

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Yeah. So right after I graduated college, I was hired on with United as a flight attendant. Like literally, I graduated in December, and like January 2nd, I started training. And so it was my very last day of training, and it was my very first like flight where I was taking the lead. I was being shadowed, but I was doing my thing, right? And I'm working in the aisle of first class on a 787, which is a wide-body plane. So it means it has two aisles, three sections of seats. Um, so I was working one of the aisles in the first class galley and to get meals. This was a Houston to LA flight, too. So that's important because it's a longer flight. Um, and on that plane, the first class is like the lay down, Polaris, like expensive, like people are sitting in this first class that have been upgraded, that have business cards, that have status, that kind of thing. Or that paid $10,000. Or that are very rich, exactly, or that paid $10,000. Correct. So I go up to one of the like global status members that I have on my list because we're supposed to take their their like orders first or whatever, like highest ranking member gets their preferential meal because we're on a plane. We obviously don't have unlimited amounts of food. Um, and so I'm like, hi, Mr. So-and-so, like, can I get your order? And he's like, Oh, I'm sorry. That's him. He wanted to swap seats with me. And I was like, Oh, you're fine. Happens all the time. People sometimes, you know, coworkers want to swap so they can sit and chat before, you know, whatever. Thank you for being accommodating. I'd like to get your first preference, whatever. So then I go over to the guy that is the global services member, and I'm like, hi, Mr. So-and-so, can I get your order? Um, gives it to me, and then I move to take the order of the young girl next to him, and he's like, Oh, she'll have blah, blah, blah. And then he orders for the two young girl, young girl, what like 13. I would say probably 12, 13. She did not have an unaccompanied minor badge on. Only the little kids would wear those. The two children in the seats behind him had UM badges on, and on the manifest, they were listed as unaccompanied minors.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

And how old were they?

SPEAKER_02 47:35

Probably seven. Okay. Five, five, six, seven. They were little, little, little. I was also 21 at the time.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

So, like, yes, unaccompanied.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

Not speaking English. So these three children don't speak English. This man does not look like he speaks Spanish. I don't look like I speak Spanish. Yo hablo poquito español. But I do not speak Spanish. This man looks like me, like he does not speak Spanish. He tells me that he will be ordering for them and that I can ask him about things for them. I'm like, red flags are just like ding ding ding going off in my head. And I'm like, this is weird. So I go back to the galley and I'm talking to the other flight attendants about it, and they're like, what? So they grab the manifest and they go out and they're talking to the man who switched seats and talking to the man who's supposed to be in the seat and they're wanting to talk to the children, and the children are having a hard time because they don't speak English, and none of our flight attendants speak Spanish because this isn't an international flight where we have to have a Spanish speaker on the flight. It's Houston to LA. We don't have to have speakers. They call the cockpit. They tell the pilot when we land, the FBI is there. They hold people on the plane, they take the man off, and then they take the children off.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

That was my very first flight as a flight tenant. It was wild. Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 48:45

I was asking her. I was like, did it, do you know what happened? Do you know, like I have no idea. I have no follow-up.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

That's literally all I know. I remember I got off the tarmac at LAX. I remember I was wearing a black J. Crew dress and black heels.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

Um, and then I remember we got back on the plane and flew back to Houston. And what's so crazy is I used to fly by myself all the time when I was young. Same. My dad was a million mile, two million miler with Continental. Wow. I flew all the time as a kid. And it was like the most fun to fly by yourself. You've got the little wings and all of that. And I um I and I was adopted by my stepdad. So after my mom died, my stepdad adopted me. And I remember her family being so concerned that he was adopting me because he had only been in our life for two years. And he they were like, what the hell is this guy doing? Why is he adopting her? And looking back, it's interesting because as a parent, I'm like, oh, I totally get it. But it actually kept me the safest because like things were actually happening, you know, my dad's side, or you know, all these things, like I was actually safer, but now looking back, I'm like, oh, I get it. It's weird. A 30-year-old man adopting a girl he's known for two years, you know, like, and she's eight. Like I get why it would look weird. And I've never thought about it from a parent's perspective where it's like, oh, and they would like get into fights about it because he's like, no, yeah. And uh I just it's just weird how things have yeah, I look at things so different now.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Agreed. Yeah, I always, I always like every time I tell that story, I'm like, I guess I just had mom gut

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SPEAKER_02 50:15

before I was a mom. Like I had that like mom intuition before I was a mom, but I was always like the mom in the friend group growing up. I was always the one making making the plans, which is so funny because I'm so all over the place now. I can't even keep my head on straight half the time.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

So that's because of depletion of hormones I've learned. 100% in one.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

Gifted child burnt out right here.

SPEAKER_00 50:35

But it's also like in motherhood, your um your hormones get really depleted, and so you can't remember things as well.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

Yeah, my brain is real.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

Yeah, because I was googling if I have dementia the other day, if I have early onset dementia. Like, no, like literally, I was like the amount of times I've Googled that, Sam. You have?

SPEAKER_02 50:51

I was like So many times. Oh my god, are you kidding? One of my grandmas is dead, but she died from like dementia dementia, and the other one lives in a memory care facility, and she's probably just because she's a woman. Like it's no my mama, no, my mama. She okay, my meme, she's the one that's dead. She was a physical.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

That's the most southern names, Mimi and Mama. Yeah, pretty part, right?

SPEAKER_02 51:12

My mama, my mama and my poppy. Yeah, yeah. My mama was from um Robertsdale, Alabama. Her younger brother graduated high school with Tim Cook.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

CEO of the guy who Yep.

SPEAKER_02 51:25

Yeah, yeah. Robertsdale, Alabama. Um, but no, hang on, lost my train of thought.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

Zara, you're when you finally open up that J mail, you're gonna, your mind's gonna be blown. It's your mind is going to explode, Zara. It's going to explode. You have to. They're not covering it anymore. You have to just do it yourself. It's instead of it. Or Becca Day, just follow Becca Day.

SPEAKER_02 51:45

They won't, yeah, Becca Day. That's you told me to follow her last night, right, Sam? Yeah, it was it was very helpful. She's um stuff. But no, my my mom's mom, she my mom's dad died at 59 from a heart attack, widowmaker heart attack. Took him. Um, he was an attorney though, so stressed. Um, and then my mom's mom, she was like 90 something. She literally said, if y'all move me out of my condo, I'm gonna die. And that's how she would say it. She lasted one week in the memory.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

Sorry, have you ever Googled do you have dementia early onset dementia? I feel like you haven't.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Have you ever Googled it? No, no, no, no. I've definitely Googled, I have definitely Googled, is it perimenopause or like I think I'm in perimenopause MS or mom rage or fun fact. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

Neurodivergent women go through perimenopause earlier. Yeah, by 10 years.

unknown 52:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

So I feel like I'm so really young, so I feel like I'm gonna go through perimenopause pretty early, too.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

Oh yeah. I got my period in like the fifth grade, and I was a year younger than all my friends. What? Uh I skipped a grade. It's crazy. I was five feet and a hundred pounds in the fourth grade. But I'm five ten.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

So I'm five one now, but I was like not much smaller than I am now.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

You were like, I was the same size then.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

Yeah. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

My best friend is five one. Wait, when did you so you got fifth grade and then Zara, for you, how early were you? I don't I didn't even know what a period was in fifth grade. That would have been like traumatizing.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

I didn't, I didn't when I started mine. And that would have been.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

I opted out of one hour. Oh no. My mom, my mom was an elementary school teacher, so she was like in the room with us, probably. But no, my mom literally, when I turned, I think when I turned eight, my mom just like made me a little pack and it had like pads and tampons and like anything I could need, all the options.

SPEAKER_00 53:39

I love that. It just lived in my should be a gift that you can send people like online is like a period pack for like young girls.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

You know what I do not love though is when influencers talk about their daughters getting their period.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

I hate that. It anytime you talk about your child anything medical, it is such an invasion of their privacy. The most I will share is like, oh, we all have RSV or like one of the kids has flu. But I'm not gonna be like going on and being like, oh, they're having these developmental issues or these, unless you're a page specifically dedicated to like informing, right? Because there's a lot of like medical.

SPEAKER_00 54:19

But don't use your kids, don't like yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Even like when people talk about like, oh, my kid had a blowout or my kid had diarrhea or like poop, you know, like your kids gonna be able to see that at some point, and their friends are gonna see that. Like just have a lot of people. I know give give your kids some dignity, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

I've been I've been talking to Zara about this where I'm like, I wonder if I need to like take some things down that I have said on this podcast. Cause it's like, I'm like, I don't know what I have said about my son because I have gotten more because I I've always been really strict about what I share visually of him. But then it's like when you start thinking about like, you know, names, birthdays, like all of these things, it's like, oh, this is all information that can be, and so it it starts to get to that level where you're like, I thought it was being so safe.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

Oh, yeah. And I feel very like screwed, blued, and tattooed, right? Like when it comes to it, because like that's another southernism coming out. Sorry. Can you take down videos or if they're branded, can you not take them down? If it's a brand deal, I can't, but I don't ever include my kids in brand deals. Um, a lot of brands don't want you to.

SPEAKER_00 55:23

Yeah. I got a crazy brand deal contract the other day, and like crazy, and it's from Bro Health, and to be one of their ambassadors. Zara, I haven't even told you. Have I told you about this?

SPEAKER_01 55:34

No.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

So they asked Bro, R O E? R-O. R-O. Uh, Serena Williams is one of their ambassadors.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

Yeah, is it the GLP one?

SPEAKER_00 55:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And so they asked me to be one of their ambassadors and they sent over the contract. And I was like, hey, just before you sent it over, is there anything about AI using my likeness or image or anything? And she's like, no, I've never heard of anything like that. I was like, okay, so as long as there's not that, I'm reading through it. Second clause B and C. We have the right, and I'll take this out, but this is like for you know, we have the right to use your likeness, image, voice in perpetuity in all of the world. Kit we can reproduce, fictionalize, modify, edit any of these in all of the universe and all of the world.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

And I was like, that's when I yeah, the in in the universe, those those always. What is that? I was like, what is that? I was like, It's the finality of the contract language. My manager always strikes that out. That's always okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:28

Cause I'm like, I'm not, I'm not gonna sign, like, sorry, not gonna sign it. Like, you you don't get to fictionalize or modify. Like, if you need to edit lighting, like that's fine.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

But like I will send you raw files, but you will not be making AI edits of me.

SPEAKER_00 56:42

So that's something people okay, because like I sent it to a couple of my um attorney friends, and they're like, that's I've never had that happen.

SPEAKER_02 56:49

No, I've been full-time influencing for three years now, and I've never I've been represented by an agent. Okay. So that's weird, right?

SPEAKER_00 56:56

Because I was like, like, I should send you guys the I'll just send it to you so you all can see it. I'll send you the clips because it was one of those things where I was like, the person managing the program doesn't even know, and there's typos in it. There's like a spacing issue. I'm like, they just like had Chat GPT write this up. So I had Chat GPT write me up an alternative to be like, hey, I'm not gonna sign this. Like yeah, it it was uh that was an interesting thing. So I'll see, I'll let you know how that goes. But I have to hop because I have you guys probably also have to go do pickups, but we are in a short day, so okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:30

All right, this was girl and girlies. Oh, do y'all have any updates on mom 2.0?

SPEAKER_00 57:35

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

I've all okay.