The Luka Narrative Is Out of Control and Jayson Tatum Just Came Back

On this episode of Real Hoopers we break down why the Luka Dončić criticism has reached another level and whether the hate is starting to overshadow the basketball. Is the criticism fair based on expectations or has Luka become the latest star targeted by the nonstop NBA discourse cycle. We talk about how narratives grow around superstar players and why some athletes become lightning rods for debate across the league.

We also discuss Jayson Tatum returning to the floor in Boston after ten months away and how the team surprisingly surged during his absence. What does this mean for Boston’s identity moving forward and how does a superstar reintegrate into a team that already found rhythm without him. We look at leadership, chemistry, and expectations for one of the Eastern Conference’s biggest contenders.

Michael Jordan recently opened up again about the GOAT debate and reflected on his Olympic experience, giving rare insight into how he views legacy conversations. We react to his comments and how they continue to shape the ongoing debate around greatness in basketball history.

The Western Conference seeding race is also getting tighter by the day. With multiple teams separated by only a few games, every matchup is starting to feel like a playoff preview. We talk about the pressure building in the West and which teams are built to survive the chaos.

Outside of basketball, the internet also went crazy after the McDonald’s CEO went viral for his robotic taste test moment. We break down why the clip spread everywhere online and what it says about modern viral culture.
Real Hoopers is where sports conversation meets culture. From NBA narratives to viral moments shaping the timeline, this is the place for real basketball talk.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Scorers, scores, welcome back. It's your boy Sean Shug Amos, man. And we got a nice little busy weekend. We got a nice busy weekend for uh basketball, some off-the-court stuff, you know. Uh and I got my guy E here. What's up with you, my boy?

SPEAKER_00 0:16

What's good, bro?

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Yes, sir, yes, sir. Uh, you know, man, did you like McDonald's?

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Nah, nah.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

I ain't gonna be. Come on, bro. Depends. Everybody's vegan. Everybody vegetarian in LA. If you ain't from LA or you don't live in LA, you never been in LA, everyone is on some type of, I mean, at least the imports. At least some of the imports, um, you know, some of the high school guys, the young guys, you know, they always on some type of diet, you know. Uh the reason why I asked that, because, you know, the CEO of McDonald's named Chris, I believe Kamzinski? Kamzinski had a nice little bite of the Archburger. So since you're an avid, since you're a um McDonald's guy, right? What's your favorite, what's your favorite burger over there?

SPEAKER_00 1:09

I don't eat McDonald's, but if I do eat McDonald's after a late night, again, I'm going with a quarter pounder with cheese, medium fries, and a dye coat.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

You see, you you hear that? You hear this guy? He already lied. He said, I don't eat McDonald's, but if I did late night, like he already got a specific time. You know he's young, so he already outside late anyway. So that means when I go every Saturday when before I come in the house, then the gall, the nerve, the the audacity to eat that shit, and then be like, you're gonna get a diet coke. A diet coke. Like, like what you dieting, gang? Like what you the diet is done. Like there ain't no diet to have. Like the diet is over.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

It's the sugar from the coke. You gotta remove the shit.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Yeah, as if the sugar from the burger, the sugar from the fries uh will be any difference. I saw the I saw this uh clip um that a lady kept a burger from McDonald's, some fries from McDonald's for 20 some odd years, and they still was intact with no mold. That's neither so that's in your body, bro. So that burger, and that burger and frost still in your body from Saturday. Uh, but no. So I was watching, but anywho, I was watching uh Chris Kimzinki's Kimzinski um take this bite of this burger. You could tell he don't eat that shit. He don't eat no McDonald's, bro. I mean, listen, ain't nothing wrong with eating McDonald's. I used to eat McDonald's, but you could tell the CEO he didn't eat McDonald's. And then not only was he eating, did not only did he not eat McDonald's, he was trying to hype himself up to eat it. He was looking at it. Oh, we got some onions in there. I don't eat no goddamn onions. Then he took a bite of it and then was like, that's a big bite of the orange burger. That was a nibble. It was like a little rabbit took a little bite of it, but he didn't want to eat it, man. Yeah, but listen, my biggest thing for the whole clip was the drink, the soda. Sprite looks like to me. I saw some bubbles, so I'm gonna assume it was Sprite. Maybe it's maybe he was a Sierra Miss guy. I don't know. But either way, I had to think to myself, can you eat, can you drink water with burgers? Can you drink water with McDonald's burgers at that? Nah, I think that ruins the experience. If you're going to eat McDonald's, you gotta go for the whole fat experience. You gotta go for the whole thing. So I don't know what my man E over here is doing with a diet coat, but go ahead and get yourself a coat at McDonald's. Your boy Dylan Brooks was in the in the media over the weekend. Uh, you know, not for you know not for the things we will hope he would be in there for, such as basketball, such as basketball. He got pulled over for being under the under the under the suspicion of being in the inf under the influence. Okay. So um, I watched the video, and I gotta admit, I gotta admit, the cops had it right. The cops had it right. Dylan, you were fried. He was fried rice. Fried rice, broccoli, and broccoli and steak, whatever you want to do, fried rice, shrimp-fried rice, shrimp-fried Dylan, whatever. He was fried though. Now, here's my thing. I'm never telling anyone what to do off the court. I'm never telling, I'm not getting anyone business. But if I had to, and considering I got this show, the real hooper show, I have to. I would say, Dylan, do your dirt in the crib, bro. Chill out, hang out, bro. You you rich. The girls come to you now, bro. You don't gotta come to them. And then if you don't, if it's a girl, you feel like she shouldn't know where you live, you shouldn't be messing with her at this stage of your life. Now, I did see that he was on the uh Million Dollars Worth of Game Wallow and Gilly podcast. So I'm just hoping he was coming from there. He was just talking to Gilly, and him and Gilly was blowing down, and he just happened to get caught up. But I don't think it's nothing to see here. I don't think it's a big deal. You know, the media want to make things a big deal. I don't think this is a big deal. No smoke here. Pun intended. All right. So Charles Barkley was clowning your boy uh Jaden Williams, man. Jaden Williams, uh, he had a poncho. To me, it looked like a Burberry Poncho. It looked like a Burberry Poncho. It didn't look bad. I wouldn't personally wear it. I only wear Score Society, even when you go to go'sactivewear.com. You use Cove Real Hoopers at checkout to get 15% off on the entire store, but that's neither here nor there, or it could be there. But anywho, Charles Barkley is always clowning these guys in their clothes. Listen, I say this with sincerity. Sincerity. I say this out of respect and love. Nobody wants to wear them old ass suits. I'm like, like, dog, nobody wants to wear them old ass suits, bro. I get it. The business back in the day, the business attire, the great way to represent yourself is to have uh have a suit on. I think everyone should own suits. I'm not saying people shouldn't have suits, but you don't have to wear a suit everywhere you go. Everywhere you go. You go to Google, you go to YouTube, you go to those offices. Are they wearing suits? No, they wearing t-shirts, chilling, relaxing, CEO chilling, marketing officer, chilling, shirt casually. We gotta get out of this idea. Now, the was it a cool Burberry Poncho? I liked it. I ain't I didn't think that was bad. You like that Burberry Pan? Would you wear it? I will wear it. I ain't gonna lie. You will wear it?

SPEAKER_00 7:00

I wear that Burberry Pancho, yeah. I I don't think you could have pulled it off, though. No, if I was getting money like him, you could have pulled it off. I could have put it off, bro. I could have.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Would you so we'll describe the rest of the lay? You got you got the Burberry Poncho. What else?

SPEAKER_00 7:16

See how it looks a layer of white T under Yo. You can you can copy his style. No, I'm not gonna go. Why fine? White T, white T. White T. Alright. We'll go boots and we'll go we'll go baggy jeans. Boots with the baggy jeans? What kind of boots though? Tim's.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Tim's?

SPEAKER_00 7:31

I'll probably go all black Tim's or depends on what uh colour. All sorts of all black bags. All black kind of you go so you go, so what color the jeans? Black, like gray wash jeans.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Gray baggies, but it gotta be baggies, all black, white t-shirt with the Burberry Pancho. What color was that poncho? Burberry, like uh brown, the brown episode's brown. So you're gonna wear brown, white, ashy gray with black.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

No, no, it's it's like an ashy dark gray with black. It's all gonna be gray.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Listen, bro. Hell no. I mean, you you listen. This is what I'm saying, man. You gotta know how to throw it on. You was you was on the right path into the all black boots. You don't gotta wear, like, you gotta have it because it's too, it's just too straight. It's just a black, then white, then like you gotta, you might as well have to throw the tan boots on. You gotta throw the butters on.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

But it's too uh, I don't like matchy matchy like that.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

You are matchy matchy when you were black. You look now, you just look like a referee with a Burberry, with a with a uh with a Burberry Poncho. Are you gonna rock a hat? Uh most likely. So you go so what kind of hat is it? I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Bucket, fit it, it gotta be something baseball trucker. Nah, it gotta be something exotic. Something exotic.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Exotic. So that's gonna ruin the whole thing. Because now you're gonna see here's the thing, right? I like fashion, but I like my fashion is being subtle, right? So you was cool with the tan boots, black, you know what I mean? Black or ashy jeans, white shirt. You was cool with that. Then, but now you trying to look like you want to be seen. That's not cool. Like with the if you throw a you gotta throw an exotic hat on, yeah. I mean now you look like you're trying to be seen. You gotta you gotta look so you gotta chill with the doings. See, the puncho is already loud though. That's what I'm saying. You don't need to do nothing more louder than that. Nah, you're right. That speaks for itself. You you now they now they like, oh, is he do he even like girls? Listen, I ain't knocking it if you don't. I'm just I'm just saying you walk in the room, they start asking questions at that point. You don't need the loud hat. The loud the poncho says enough. You know what I'm saying? All right, man. Um, but AJ DeBancer, man, he said he might, he might not go, he might not uh he might not enter the draft this year. His mom wants him to finish his education. Listen, man, it's so old school, man. That's just an old school way of thinking, bro. Like, you don't necessarily need to, I don't know, man. I like if my mom, mom was like asked me, like, yo, you need to stay in school. We want you to have your education. Mom, please go sit down somewhere. Please go sit down somewhere. I I just send some money in your account for bingo night. Please go. Just go. Because ultimately, these kids are in school because they want the money I'm about to get or the money I already have. I why would I be going to school if school can wait for me? And shit, I can bring, I got enough money, I can bring the school to me. Practice. Hey, tutor, let's go. I can finish school online. Practice online. Like, no, we don't need to stay in school. We need to go get this paper. We need to get this money. God has blessed you with a talent. I don't think God, when he blessed AJ with his talent, he was like, you know what? He still gotta go to school, though. No. He blessed you with a talent so you can change your life, your family's life, the trajectory of your family. God don't give you a talent so you can so you can prolong it. Your talent is limited. But also, he could just be trying to stir the pot. He could be trying to stir the pot, man. Who knows? You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, I hope he's just playing. I hope he's just trying to stir the pot. I hope he tells us we give his mom enough money for bingo into the draft. Because we want to see AJ. AJ in the draft. I think I have him number two. Um I like De'Aaron Peterson, but more most likely he'll go number one. Um and the reason why I say that is because he has been durable, he has been available, and he's also um he's also a good player. He's a good player, and he's a he's a player who can definitely, who I think Utah is aiming for. I think he'll go to Utah. But uh he got a tremendous upside. I like his game, I like his skill set. But if he goes, if he goes back to school, this is the first time I'm gonna say this. You go to school, you a fool. Um the fans, we talk, so I was so I was on, I was on Instagram the other day, right? I was on live. And um I was talking to, you know, a guy, you know, he wants to come on a live, he wants to talk or whatever. And he was like, man, he ain't like, he don't like that players get to pick the teams. And and I've heard this over the years, like, you know, of course, LeBron, Katie, but here's my thing, right? Major companies pick the people they work for, work with them, or work at the company. You think Apple gets go out and hire uh amateurs, CEO, a COO, a chief a CMO. Like you, like you think you you think they go out there and just hire amateurs from out of college. No, they go give people with track records. We never say Apple's wrong. Never say, because, and it might sound far-fetched, but you gotta understand, these players are businesses. Like Jay-Z had a line, I'm not a businessman, I'm a businessman. KD is a business. He put his name on something, he stamped something, he's official. It's a business. So when I see when I hear that, it's like, where y'all get this mindset from? Why is it okay for the owners of the team to make decisions for the organization, and they can be bad decisions, right? But you still a diehard Dallas fan. You still a diehard Lakers fan. The players make the decision, and you are now burning their jerseys, now they're soft. Owners make the same decision, they're geniuses. So I'm trying to figure out why people have a problem with that. Now I think it should definitely be done in a certain fashion. I think competition is great. I know it's great, it's great for the NBA. But here's the thing, right? I don't think we ever sat and watched a finals game with LeBron and his super teams and was like, this is an unfair matchup. This is unfair. How is he playing against the Warriors with all his there's not that the Warriors is never gonna win? We never said that. We didn't even say that when Kyrie left in 2018 and the Warriors kept the same team. Braun scored 51 points in the first game of that series. We didn't say, oh, it's just unfair for Braun. They don't even got Kyrie. This is the NBA, guys. This is the NBA. The best players in the world. Best players we we've we probably will ever see. They'll figure it out. They always do. So when I watch stuff like that or hear stuff like that, I'm like, yo, y'all gotta get out of this mindset, man. The mindset of people, it's okay for people to make the decisions for us. Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, uh, Kevin Garnett. Well, Paul Pierce is already here. When Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett went to the Boston Sussex, they were traded. LeBron and those guys, free agents, right? Who cares how it's done? We all know that you need it's a formula that's involved. Who cares how it's done? You need a big three, a super, whatever it is. And then another thing too about the term super team. Let me ask you this, E. How many people on a team, on a basketball team?

SPEAKER_00 16:39

15. 15.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

How many people on a basketball team you need to win? Seven and eight. Right? Seven and eight, right? How many people want a court at a time? Five. So how's three a super team? You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So so it's just like certain stuff, it's like certain media narratives is put in people's head, and people really feel like they gotta live their life off the court like that, too. They feel like they gotta do it by themselves. They don't understand it. They don't, they don't, they don't get it. And I just wanted to like make understand the mindset that people have when it comes to that. Michael Jordan was on Inside to Excellence, right? And he was talking about the GOAT conversation. He said the GOAT conversation is just a circular conversation. He's never high or low about the conversation. And I agree with him. I've been saying this for a while. A lot of people think because I like LeBron, I don't like Jordan. And I think that's silly. A lot of people believe if you like one person, you can't like the other person. That's silly. At one point, I would do the Jordan and LeBron debates. I would. I thought it was fun, I thought it was interesting, I thought I found so many intriguing points that no one never heard before, right? But here's the reality, right? I don't necessarily do it anymore intentionally. I don't do it intentionally. What I do now is I speak to LeBron's narratives. The things you believe why he's not good or why he is good, the things you believe why he won a championship or why he didn't win a championship. I understand people want to feel like they know so much about ball, or maybe want to say you're right. And they're going to comment. So I understand I just talk to the media narratives. But my take on the GOAT debate is this. I think it's almost impossible to say one person is better than every everyone who ever played. You don't know it. There's so many things that factor in. Nicola Jokic is doing amazing. But who's to say Nicola Jokic played in 1975, 1980, and the coaches would have taught him to shoot threes? The coaches would have told him to bring the ball up the court. Who's to say that was it would have been possible? Who's to say that? So when it comes to when it comes to the GOAT debate, it's more like it's a goat of the era. It wasn't until LeBron became this person that's fun to hate, where every player before you, you had to outdo. You had to do every outplayer before you. Bill Russell won 11 rings. Nobody had to win 12. You will say the era was different. They only had a certain amount of teams. He didn't have the skill set. Maybe he didn't need the skill set. Why would he need the skill set? He's one of the biggest players out there. Maybe he didn't need it. Then you'll say, well, Kareem has six rings. That's good, right? It's great. But then Michael Jordan, yes, he was six and oh. But before he won six, at three or two, they were saying he was the goal. Articles about it. He didn't outdo Magic at that time. He didn't outdo Kareem at that time. Six and oh. Then you say, well, Kobe, Kobe had five rings. True. True. But he didn't outdo Jordan, so is he better? So he shouldn't be considered a GOAT at all? LeBron had four. He shouldn't be considered no type of GOAT at all. So only so the person was so you had to now you have to win and never lose. No matter the era. No matter if guys get injured on your team. Don't matter. Don't matter which when you if you're playing in the finals, it's a 24. Don't matter. Don't matter. Six and oh. Gotta, you gotta, you gotta be, it just doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense. So if another person plays the best competition. So you say, okay, who's the best? Who's the best point guard? If I ask my man Eve right now, E, who the best point guard you've ever seen?

SPEAKER_00 22:17

Steph Curry.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Steph Curry. Old here's gonna say Magic Johnson. Who's the best shooting guard you ever seen? Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant. Old here gonna say Jordan. Who's the best small four you ever seen?

SPEAKER_00 22:32

Uh LeBron James.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

I agree. I agree. I don't think we can, I don't think there's no debate there. Power four, who's the best power four you see?

SPEAKER_00 22:42

That's slim. That's slim. Let me go KD. KD? If he's a power forward.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

No, he ain't not a power forward.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

That's slim. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

You don't know?

SPEAKER_00 22:49

No, no.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

No Tim Duncan, no KG, no.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Nah, I really watch him play to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

You ain't watch him? All right. A lot of people won't say Tim Duncan, the best power forward. Best center. Jokic. Jokic. Say Jokic. I'ma say Shaq. Somebody gonna say Kareem. Jordan never beat Kareem. Jordan never beat Kareem. Jordan never had to play against a Steph Curry. Guy was running around and shooting threes all over the place. He had to play against a dynasty Warriors. He never played against a Tim Duncan. Shit, he almost played against Hakeem Alajwan before he retired. We don't account none of that. They be like, oh yeah, Jordan played 82 games. I guess so. When you when you take two years off. But it's not a we don't put it against him. We don't pay it against him. But we can so but because we don't put it against him, that means we gotta take it away from the person who played 23 years with never took any years off. We take it away from the person who went to every every team he went to, he won a championship for. For every super team he was on, he was a superstar. He led all of them. He never took a backseat. Same thing with KD. Yeah, I mean, granted, I think KD could have given a little grace period. But at the end of the day, he didn't take a back seat to win. Took a front seat to win. So when we sit here and we're talking about it, I'm just curious, man. I'm extremely curious. How you how we rate in the goal? I don't think it's a goal a greatest of all time. I truly genuinely believe it's a great of the era. I think if we if we start wrapping our minds around the greatest of the era, we would appreciate basketball more. We will appreciate basketball more. And when I say we'll appreciate it more, I mean we won't have like the older old heads or people say, oh, they don't like this era basketball, they don't like this, they don't like that. We wouldn't have that. Because you would understand what area you in and you enjoy the area you in. But instead, we compare, oh, they did they played physical in the 90s. They was playing W. They was that was WWF, that wasn't NBA. But nonetheless, man, shout out to Jordan, man. Jordan seemed real poised in that uh in that interview. Uh he didn't speak down on anyone. He he gave his he gave a great perspective, and I love it, man. Jordan, my like I said, Jordan's number two on my list, but he was for a long time he was number one, and he's slightly number two. He's not a it's not a big jump. Uh, but I love it. I love it. So Western Conference is uh let's talk about some basketball, man. Let's talk about some current day basketball. Western Conference is tight, man. Let me look it up again. I had I watched it. Um I was looking at the stand-ins over there, and they and like three teams are like uh a game and a half, a game and a half from each other, right? Um, but I'm gonna be honest with you, bro. Wait, I'm gonna ask you first. Who do you got winning the championship this year?

SPEAKER_00 25:58

I got Lakers all the way, bro.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

You got say it say that one more time?

SPEAKER_00 26:02

I got Lakers all the way. Still.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

That's my man said he had Lakers all the way. He still got the Lakers. That's almost saying, like, I got the Clippers. Nah, like I I respect it, right? I I definitely respect it. But here's the thing it's not gonna be the Lakers. Uh I have Spurs.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Yeah, Spurs. Nah.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Yeah, I like the way the Spurs play. Um, they they they got they got a seven foot four guard, uh rim protector. Um, and then we see how passionate he was. See how passionate he was crying after two games. Yeah, yeah. You know, uh we see how passionate he was. So for me, I I like it. I like it, man. I I I do still think OKC is gonna be a problem. I don't think uh I don't think OKC gets out of uh, I mean, they're still gonna be a problem. I mean, they're the most experienced team. They know how to win, they know how to play, they know how to have fun. That's one thing I will say. Then you go look at uh team like Denver. Denver wasn't Denver not that bad either, man. They got some pieces. They played them, but they play well. You know, those three teams I just mentioned, they play good basketball. They played really good basketball. Then the next two on the list, I mean, I'm not going. I I'm I don't have internet right now. But um the next two that's in the run-ins are the Timberwolves and the Lakers. So I believe Timberwolves is two now.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

No, three.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Three? Who's two? Spurs. Spurs, OKC Spurs. Who's fourth?

SPEAKER_00 27:44

Nuggets? Fourth is Rockets. Rockets? Okay. So the three teams that are tied or neck, neck and neck are Rockets, Lakers, and Nuggets. Rockets four, Lakers five, Nuggets six.

unknown 27:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

So I'll say a hard sell for me is uh the Timberwolves and Lakers. And because and then for me, it's just more a style of play. I don't I don't know if their style of play beats a Spurs OKC style of play. You know? Houston, obviously, I'm a KD fan. I want to see him win. But the Houston's style of play is not consistent enough. It's just not consistent. They got the pieces, but sometimes it just looks like they don't know where to go with the basketball at times. They're making some tough, some terrible decisions in the clutch. Houston is a good team. So Houston is like, for me, it's uh a lottery. We don't know. We don't, we don't, we don't know with Houston. But everyone else kind of has their style, their style of play. Uh doesn't mean Houston can't win it. It just means that Houston needs to be consistent for us to buy into it, for at least for me to buy into it.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

You don't think nobody no one out the east can win the championship? Huh? You don't think anybody out the east can win? Um Detroit.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

I mean, I think I like Detroit or Boston. I like Detroit or Boston. I don't see anybody else. Uh Detroit or Boston intensity is there. Is there. Uh speaking of Boston, your boy Jason Tatum is back.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

We was talking about this on live.

SPEAKER_00 29:27

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Come on, bro.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

That's not my guy, bro. He's a here he has Celtics, bro.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

You don't like you don't like Celtics?

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

Why? What'd they do to you?

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Lakers rivalry, bro.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

You only been alive to see, you haven't seen been alive to see one Lakers rivalry with the Celtics.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

I seen the uh, what was that, the 08, 09? Kobe was. Oh, you see it now?

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

I vaguely, vaguely remember it.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Okay. Okay. So Lakers, so okay, fair. I'm I'm a I'ma let uh I'm I'm gonna let you live today. I'm gonna I'm gonna let you, I'ma let you have, I'ma let you have this uh this organization fan mentality thing.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Only Celtic I rock with IT. That's only one.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

So so convenient. Not convenient. As long as you are if you under 5'9, he rocks. So you don't you don't rock with Pritcher? Uh he cool uh he's cool. Yeah, I'm gonna anybody in the 5'10 he rock with. I'm seeing what's going on here. Jason Tatum, well, he's back. And uh he looked good. Pause. He looked good. He he played well. You know, I I did, so I did see some comments like, yo, what's the ceiling? What you think he can do? He don't need to do much. They number two in the East. Just maintain, bro, Bill. He on a limp, he's on a minute restriction with 27 minutes the last two games. Uh, I know the first game, uh, he had 15 points. Uh, what do you have? 15, 11 to 7, or something like that? 12 or 7. And then it, and then the second game, he had about 20 points. So he he had 20 points in 27 minutes. First thing I'm thinking to myself is technology's amazing. The fact that you can come from an uh injury like that and come back average, get 20 and 15, that's tough. That's tough. So he so he's doing, so I I like I like Jason uh Tatum. I like Jason Tatum in his lineup. He doesn't need to be the star, he doesn't need to try to outdo anyone. He has nothing to prove other than just trying to win, just keep trying to win. Extra passing. Next year, reset, get back to the guy who averaged 27 points a game. Um now, this is going this is going to be a hard conversation for my guy over here. This is our last conversation for the day. My man's a big Luka fan. They say the Luka hate is getting out of hand. Let me do try the Luka hate is getting out of hand. I believe the Luka hate is just beginning. It's just beginning. Now, I I don't say that with a smile on my face because I want to see him fail. But what I do say is this I think the lights and the expectation is too bright. I think it's too bright for him. I don't think in Dallas, he's in Dallas, y'all not expecting him to win. He makes it to the finals, oh shoot, they might. Right? But at the end of the day, a market like Dallas, you can do what you want. You can play how you want. They were just happy to see the new talent average 28 points. The Lakers fans, not so much. The media, not so much. We gotta win. We gotta win now. Gotta win now. Now let me tell you the conversation they don't want to have. Luca, they are dependent on you. They are dependent on you to adapt to today's game. If if the Spurs is moving the basketball, swing, swing, swing, getting the ball advance, and their best players averaging 21 points. They expecting you to adapt to that.

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Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

They expecting you to adapt to that. But you jab step, uh, huh? Nobody touch him. You're gonna you gonna call a foul? Not championship basketball, bro. They expecting you to adapt. Of course, they want to blame LeBron. Sure, LeBron smoked some layups. I'm like, yo, what the heck? How he smoked that layup? But let's be real, LeBron is 41 and he's trying to learn a role of the third option at the end of his career. They want to say, oh, it's the defense, it's the defense. You knew Luca don't play no defense. Austin Reef can't play no defense. And LeBron, what y'all want to do with Brian, bro? Y'all want him to give, like, that's what you've seen is probably 100%. Have you ever been 41 and you go to LA fitness and you play against these fast guys, these fast kids, you'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me guard the biggest dude, bro. The last time I played basketball, I'm 40. So the last time I played basketball, right? I stayed with the slowest guy. I'm listening, man. I'm just trying to I'm just trying to get my cardio in. LeBron, of course, is getting paid 51 million, but y'all think it's 51 million to be on the court? It's 51 million to put them asses in the seats. I think LeBron can play better, but does he really have it in him to play better? That's when Luca comes in. Luca has to know where to get, guys. I actually rather see Luca with less points. 33 points, that means you got the ball a lot, gang. And it's not working. It means it's not working. SGA scored 32 points, take his team to the finals. That works. That works. 33 team in the fifth spot, second year in a row. Now something not working. Not working. I'd rather see a Luca with 26 points, 13 assists, and 9 rebounds. 10 rebounds for the triple double. Then I'd rather see Austin Reeves, who's averaging 20 points now, with 24 points. I'd rather see Hanchi Murray points go up. DeAndre Aiden, your anchor and your anchor below, he's not buying into his role. He said he's not a clink compeller. That means he ain't trying to run, jump, dive on the floor for loose balls, catch lobs the entire game. He needs to showcase his skill that we already saw didn't work. It didn't work. When LeBron was the head of the team, he adapted to the other teams. He started to shoot threes. He had to adapt. He had to change. Luca gotta Luca gotta change the team now. He gotta change the team culture. But you can't change the team culture if you're always talking to the refs. You're always upset. You snatch it from how about say RJ? You snatch it from JJ. It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. But I don't think the Luka hate starting. I think it's just beginning. Now, we already talked about Wimby and crying, man. We talked about it, man. We're gonna end it on this little right here, man. I think the NBA is in a good in a good in a good uh place. You got guys like Wimby crying after the regular season games. And it's just it's been a long 30 hour hours. It's been a long 30 hours, man. I respect it. But then of course, we just can't celebrate that moment. We gotta be like, oh the NBA players, this player, they don't have no passion. No passion at all. We do have passion. Well, not we, I'm not in the league. They have passion. They dump. Ah we just celebrate different. We just celebrate different because that's what we was taught different. Maybe in hit from his country, they might cry together. You saw they changed the celebration for the Spurs because he came here. They hit him drunk. Boom. Boom. Boom. So do you want all the you want all the teams to do the same thing? Respect is respect. Everybody don't gotta do the same thing though. I think the league is in an amazing place. I love watching it. I love seeing new things. So we we rocking with it. We rocking with it. Let me know what you guys think in the comments. Make sure you guys go to goalsactivewear.com, support the show. All this is from the muscle. I'm in a room right now. Ain't no studio no this is from the muscle. Make sure y'all like, subscribe, and share. Until next time, let's continue to think elite and together. Welcome to Score Society.