Good Neighbor Podcast: Bergen
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Good Neighbor Podcast: Bergen
Ep. # 80 Discovering the Secrets of Toxin-Free Homes
Have you ever thought about the hidden toxins lurking in your home? As modern consumers, we often overlook the harmful ingredients found in everyday products. In this enlightening episode, we dive deep into the world of non-toxic living with Caitlin Fierro, a passionate functional nutritionist and the owner of Non-Toxic Homes. Caitlin shares her personal journey battling autoimmune conditions and how it sparked her commitment to creating safer spaces through her business.
Discover the dangers of common household and personal care products, including the alarming truth about fragrances that can encompass thousands of undisclosed ingredients, potentially compromising your health. Caitlin emphasizes the critical need to shift our mindset from relying on brand reputation to scrutinizing product-specific ingredients to create healthier living environments.
By engaging in practices that reduce our toxic load, we can not only improve our health but also reclaim our lives from the grip of misinformation and consumer clutter. Caitlin shares valuable insights and practical tips to help you navigate the overwhelming marketplace of products, leading you toward a sustainable and healthier lifestyle. Whether you're a newcomer to the concept of non-toxic living or a seasoned advocate, you’ll find actionable advice that resonates with your quest for wellness.
So, if you’re ready to transform your health and home, don’t miss this episode! Help spread the message about non-toxic living, and be sure to subscribe to our podcast, leave a review, and share this valuable information with your friends!
Non-Toxic Homes
Caitlin Fierro
New York, NY, United States, New York
(201) 923-0433
Caitlin@nontoxichomes.com
nontoxichomes.com
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Speaker 1:I'm going to do it at 30 seconds. This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place where local businesses and neighbors come together. Here's your host, Doug.
Speaker 2:Drohan, welcome to another episode of the Good Neighbor Podcast podcast coming to you live from Bergen County and brought to you by the Bergen Neighbors Media Group. I am your host, doug Dorhan, and today we are joined by Caitlin Fierro, who's the owner of Non-Toxic Homes based in Essex County. You don't have to be in Bergen County to be on the show, welcome. Well, we're going to get into where she's from, which is kind of cool. But, caitlin, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3:Thank you, and thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here chatting with you today.
Speaker 2:I, you know, I've, today, I interviewed I had a guy on my show who's a wild animal, I guess, pest collector. He'll trap animals like skunks and squirrels and groundhogs. I've had um, I've had psychic mediums on the show. I've had all different types of business owners and I always say, if you have a story to tell, I have a way to tell it so that people listen. And uh, you have a company called non-toxicomes, so I'm sure there's a great story behind this. So what got you on this journey to start a company that's? And you're a functional nutritionist too. So why don't we get into your background?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So I'm a functional nutritionist by trade. I specialize in chronic health conditions and reducing toxic load, and I launched my practice about two years ago and then last year, as a natural extension of my practice, I opened an online storefront for non-toxic products as well. So everything ranging from skincare, beauty, home, babies and kids more, so much more. And so for me, my journey here, like many functional practitioners, was through my own health journey.
Speaker 3:In 2012, I was diagnosed with an autoimmune condition and then for two years after that, I went on to struggle with just other health symptoms and ailments, pretty seriously, and I was living in New York City.
Speaker 3:I was young and I was seeing all the quote unquote best doctors in New York, and that went on for a while.
Speaker 3:And I really seeing all of the quote unquote best doctors in New York, and that went on for a while, and I really wasn't getting any help.
Speaker 3:And then finally, right when I was about to give up, I was referred to a naturopathic doctor in New York City, and I remember thinking to myself is this lady going to rub incense on me and tell me I'm healed? Like what is this? I just I really didn't know anything about functional or integrative health at all. And now so silly, so naive. But I went to see her and within a few months I was completely healed, and so for me that just really opened my eyes to what integrative health is, functional health, whatever you want to call it right, this other world of healthcare that just isn't spoken about so much. And so that's really what started my love and passion, interest in the functional medicine space, and then I from then on knew I wanted to launch my own business someday, and so I did, and my practice is really kind of the integration of functional nutrition and reducing toxic load and how that can help people heal or solve chronic health conditions or symptoms that they just haven't been getting the help that they need for.
Speaker 2:And you know, when you say remove the toxins, you're not just talking about cleaning products and things like that. You're talking about the foods that we eat as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so for me it's food products, whether that be cleaning products, laundry products, all the way up to personal care products, other lingering toxins that can be in your home through, like furniture, towels, I mean the list goes on and on. That I think people just don't think about.
Speaker 2:No, no, I mean there's a lot of things that were invented for convenience that we love but, um, you know, I guess we don't realize sometimes what it could uh, what the side effects could be. So I don't want to scare people, but let's get into a little bit of um, like, what did you discover to you know kind of cure, your autoimmune condition? Was there anything in particular that you uncovered?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think for me, it was really just realizing that our immune systems are bombarded all day long from toxins coming from every direction, whether that be water, air, our food, our products. And so, for me, I was already living a very healthy diet, I was completely gluten-free, and I just realized like, oh, what about the things in and around me, like what's in my Windex, what's in my laundry detergent, what's in my skincare makeup? And once I started uncovering what was in those products, I was like this is really scary. You know, there are carcinogens in these products, known carcinogens. There are immunotoxicants which can affect your immune system. There are allergenic ingredients, not like an allergy like you would think, like an outdoor allergy or a food allergy, but there are ingredients that are classified allergens that cause allergenic reactions. And so once I uncovered that information, there was just no going back for me. And once I started reducing the amount of toxins and ingredients that were harming my health from my health, I started to actually see real healing and relief.
Speaker 2:Wow. So what is it like? Is there a common ingredient in a lot of our products that we see across different, you know, cleaning, laundry, even skincare products. That is one thing. If I'm looking at a label, that should be a red flag to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would say the number one thing is fragrance. So fragrance is it'll say that on a label, and what fragrance actually is is it can be up to 3000 different ingredients, and so for me, I actually just wish it said other, because I think people read fragrance and they're like, oh, fragrance, perfume, okay, got it. But fragrances can actually be so many different ingredients. They don't disclose the ingredients, they don't have to disclose the ingredients, and a lot of those ingredients are manmade, synthetic chemicals, fillers that make that smell that we all grew up loving, right, we smell. You walk into a house and you smell tied and you're like, oh, my clothes are clean. That's the thought that we, we all grew up having. And lo and behold, that scent that we're so used to is actually harming us and causing health ailments.
Speaker 2:So seventh generation came around and I think it's there in Vermont Right and I don't know how many years ago they came out, but that was one of these.
Speaker 2:And and then there's Method right. That's another well-known brand that we have in our house. I think when it came out years ago, and maybe it's like 15 years ago that some of our products in our homes are bad for us. These companies, these brands, took hold and have done very well, as far as I know. But you kind of made a sound there when I mentioned those names.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's funny. I always hate people always ask me like what about this, what about that? All the time, right, like friends, family, I get texts all day long and I hate to be the person to burst someone's bubble. But some of these brands like seven generation method. A lot of them are greenwashing brands where, like, they're saying they're cleaner, they're better and, at the end of the day, that some of them are not better. No, not all of them right, like there are some products that seven generation makes that are absolutely better, but there are some that are not. And so I think what I try and put into practice with my clients and on my online store is that it's always I tell people, it's always product specific, not brand specific. So if you can shop product specific in mind, opposed to like I'm going to buy this one brand, you're usually going to have a safer bet if you're really looking and reading those ingredients.
Speaker 2:So I'm looking to clean my counter. We use method all the time it's purple.
Speaker 3:Yeah, purple, I know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh, you didn't know, Okay.
Speaker 3:I'm going to send it to you after this. It's called Aunt Fanny's. It's real good, you'll like it Okay.
Speaker 2:So the Latin phrase caveat emptor. It's Latin for let the buyer beware. Yeah, it is like you think you're buying, like you said, greenwashing, and I guess there's a lot more education and you know, to be honest, it's like so many things that I'm hit with information wise. I had a statistic I shared with somebody that we, as consumers, get hit with 4,000 to 10,000 ads a day.
Speaker 2:And you don't think about like oh, I haven't seen that many ads. Well, you turn on your computer, you go on your phone and an ad doesn't have to be, you know, progressive car insurance. It could be just the name of a company passing across your screen or across your eyeballs.
Speaker 2:So, when you're telling me this, I'm like God, I don't have time. Man, you know I go to the store, which I don't really do anymore because my wife buys everything online, you know, through Prime or through Fresh Direct. But you know, it's like I remember back in the day when I used to shop when I lived in the city, and even before online stuff, I was very label conscious when it came to nutrition. You know we need fat, calories, sugars, things like that. But now you're telling me that I got to look at fragrances and say, okay, well, don't get that method. I can get this method for laundry detergent, but the one for my counter ain't so great.
Speaker 2:And you know, we're spraying that near food, so I'm like overwhelmed man. I don't know what to do. So that's where you come in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and I think that is the backbone of my business, because I I was like you at one point where I wanted to do better, but I was completely overwhelmed. And I think that that's a little bit of the problem with the internet nowadays, too is that you go on one person's page and they tell you something safe. You go on the next person's page, they tell you it's dangerous. You're like what do I do? And I think the advice that I try and give to people is number one get back to basics. Right, like get back to eating whole foods. Stop eating processed foods for 50 to 60% of your diet. Right?
Speaker 3:The average American 67% of their calories are coming from processed foods. That is not acceptable and it's not a road to true health. And I think that is why I started this business, because I wanted to make it digestible, sustainable, attainable and easy for people to live a truly healthy lifestyle. And so when I work with someone one-on-one, that's what I do I coach them on how to read labels, how to pick quality products. I understand from them what kind of things they like, right, like what kind of skincare do you like? What kind of skin type do you have?
Speaker 2:What kind?
Speaker 3:of products are you using now? Okay, if you're using and I find this often a lot of people and kind of what you mentioned. We are living in this era of consumerism, right. We're getting served ads all day long. We think we need 500 products in our house and at the end of the day, you don't need that many products. Also, it comes down to simplifying, right, and I work with people one-on-one explaining that of like, hey, you're all-purpose cleaner and you're a glass cleaner. It's like 10% different in water concentration and that's really it, right. And so I kind of help people realize what's going on, just in a larger scale of the market how to read labels, how to simplify and really kind of get back to our roots on how to live day in and day out, at least in our own homes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's interesting because I've talked to some people. They have a son who has all these health issues since pretty much the day he was born and once he gets a cold it goes downhill and then he gets COVID and he gets the flu. He gets it all at once. He's in and out of the doctors and I don't think they've uncovered what's wrong with him. So if you're faced with that kind of situation and you know there, you know that show Forensic Files sometimes it's not about solving a murder, sometimes it's about, you know, kind of like that show House where they're trying to solve the mystery of what's ailing this patient, house where they're trying to solve the mystery of what's ailing this patient. And the New York Times sometimes runs articles like that in the health section where they present the case of somebody who saw all these different doctors and specialists and finally uncovered it's like a detective mystery. So what do you like if somebody has these issues?
Speaker 3:and of course the first thing we do is we go see our pediatrician yeah, um but when do you recommend they would you know, consult somebody like you yeah, I think for me, like you want to consult someone like me or someone in the functional health care space when you've been seeing doctors and you're not getting results or answers, um, and my job is to peel back the layers of the onion. So really get to the root cause of what's going on. Why have you been having chronic sinus infections your whole life? Why do you have eczema? Why do you have skin conditions? Why are you constipated? Why are you having food sensitivities?
Speaker 3:Or even sometimes people are having I really hate these five foods, or even sometimes people are having like I really hate these five foods, and sometimes that actually can be related to your gut health and it's very interesting. So for me, I really start at the beginning. I really, like I will ask people. My initial consultation with me is 90 minutes. I am going to go through, like, every single moment of your life and your health history and put the pieces to the puzzle together life and your health history and put the put the pieces to the puzzle together and I tell people now, like we are so conditioned to just accept, like, oh, I'm chronically fatigued.
Speaker 3:I have stomach ache all the time. Oh, I have back pain. And there's even on the internet.
Speaker 3:There's all these memes like I'm in my mid thirties and there's always memes being like if you're in your thirties and forties and you're getting back pain, that just means like it's acceptable and you're getting and I'm like no, that is not acceptable, like you shouldn't be tired and in pain all the time, and I think that if you're feeling that way, like seek help, um, and really try and find a practitioner who'll get to the bottom of why you're feeling that way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've often heard people say I'm tired, of being tired all the time. Yeah, and it stinks.
Speaker 3:I've been there you know, it's terrible.
Speaker 2:And I, you know, I used to be a personal trainer and I would tell my clients that nutrition was nine tenths of the law and maybe genetics, maybe genetics was nine tenths of the law. Like, if you, you know you want a body like so-and-so well, blame your parents, but but you know, putting that aside, you know nutrition is a key into achieving your, you know your ultimate goal if you're looking to change your physique, but you know there's more to it than that and it's like you're saying it's. You know, how do you sleep at night and how what's your gut health like? I know there's been a lot of information in the news about gut health. A lot of people have gotten into that. Well, let's talk about gut health for a second, because this goes back to yogurts and probiotics. I started drinking drinkable yogurt, which I love. I don't know You're going to look at me a certain way.
Speaker 3:What are you doing man? No, no, no.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'm getting my probiotics, whatever that means Probiotics depends on what it is.
Speaker 3:If it's kefir, it's even better.
Speaker 2:Okay, my wife is really. I do drink kefir. That is the one I do get. There we go, that's good I pronounce it kefir, but kefir, that's good. No, uh, kombucha. What is kombucha and why are people drinking that all the time?
Speaker 3:okay, and this is the interesting thing about kombucha is that it's it's good for some and not great for others and so it's one of those things that, um, a lot of people I see when they have gut issues, they actually have have like a yeast overgrowth or some sort of bacterial overgrowth and so you actually want to stay away from kombucha because it feeds that overgrowth and makes it worse.
Speaker 3:And this is why again, this is why I tell people to work with a practitioner instead of using the Internet to diagnose yourself or pick health foods to hold on to, because one health food for one person can be harmful for another. But at the end of the day, like there's like you said, there's been so much research in the last couple of decades on gut health and how gut health is really the root of a lot of health right, our immune system, 70% of our immune system is in our gut. 90% of our serotonin is in our gut right, like now we're doing a lot of research about the gut brain connection and how sometimes, if you have leaky gut, you could have leaky brain right Crossing the blood brain barrier right, and there's all this information.
Speaker 2:You get a leaky brain dude yeah you get a leaky brain dude right.
Speaker 3:And leaky brain is like like new people are newly starting to talk about this. I'd say in the last five years, but I'd make you a bet that in 10 years or not, people are gonna be talking about leaky brain like crazy wow, um, hey, where's your homework, son?
Speaker 2:oh sorry, teacher, I had a leaky brain last night, you know I couldn't be too many fruit loops, so I've got leaky brain yeah, exactly exactly yeah yeah uh, I had another question for you and I gotta hope I think I lost my train of thought here, but getting into that leaky brain, um, it had to do with gut health, oh yeah. So a big thing, yeah, is I'm gonna detox. I'm gonna do this detox diet, I'm gonna do this detox drink? Yeah, I'm not. I'm fasting all day long because I'm going to detox. Where do you stand with that? I've never been a fan of fasting. I've never been a fan of diets that remove micronutrients, like the Atkins diet and things like that. Anything that sounds paleo, keto. Where do you stand on those? Sorry, on those, I guess trends.
Speaker 3:I think again, it's all individualized. So like, for example, intermittent fasting can be really great in some cases for some people. You've got all these people doing intermittent fasting, especially women doing it long-term not great at all For many, many, many women. It causes hormonal problems. It causes other health issues where you do not want to be doing that. Um what's?
Speaker 2:the benefit of doing it.
Speaker 3:Uh, you know, on a short time, doing intermittent fasting is that it gives your body the time to digest and reset and detox, which is what your body should be doing overnight, right, like you should go a full 12 hours without eating every single night, right. Your body needs that time to detox, reset, move waste. It is very important and I do think there is an element of detoxing in our society. I wish we saw more, but I think detoxing with a practitioner is so important. You have all these people doing like with a practitioner is so important. You have all these people doing like to your point, random drink detoxes or detoxes that are so extreme that ultimately, you're it's. It's not really going to help, and I especially. Nowadays I see a lot of like parasite cleanses on the internet, um, and I help some of my clients do parasite cleanses when they have parasites right.
Speaker 3:Like, if I do a stool test on them and we find parasites, I'm like we need to do a parasite cleanse, but those cleanses need to be done properly. Or actually what happens is you just set the parasites free in your body and you're not binding and pulling them out and it can cause more issues. And so I think a lot of these fads, diets, trends, cleanses, detoxes you got to. You know, you got to test, not guess. That's what I say. Like my practice, we always use some sort of functional testing before we're going to do any sort of diet lifestyle supplementation plan, because if not, you're just kind of throwing stuff against the wall and hoping that it sticks.
Speaker 2:And one of the things I used to tell people is that, you know, our liver is a natural detox filtration system, right? So why do we need to do these detox diets if this is what our liver actually does? Our liver naturally detoxifies our system, right? So?
Speaker 3:it depends, though. Some people have, or not, a great phase two process within their liver, and so you've got some people who have a liver that's not working optimally, and if it's not working optimally. They get a backup of toxins and they're not eliminating, or you get people who don't have, especially nowadays. They've had part of their pancreas removed, their gallbladder, their you know, you hear a lot of these. Uh, what's, what's wrong with appendix I?
Speaker 3:hear this phrase all the time, like but you don't need your appendix, and you don't need your appendix to live, but you do need your appendix.
Speaker 2:It has bodily functions and so when someone loses an appendix or a pancreas or a gallbladder, um, there are things you need to do to make sure that your body is detoxing and functioning properly, right, but I've often heard like if you have a healthy lifestyle and, all things considered, all your bodily functions are there healthy lifestyle with a balanced diet, regular exercise, all these things you hear yeah, then you know your liver should naturally be able to detox. I think I find that people that get into these detox diets or fasting don't live that healthy most of the time, so this is their way to like all right, I just went on vacation.
Speaker 2:I had 75 drinks on my vacation and now I need to go to the gym and detox.
Speaker 3:Any of these, any yo-yo lifestyle or any binge and purge lifestyle is not healthy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So let's get into the commerce side of your business. So you have a lot of different things to buy for your face, for your body, for your babies, for your gut nutritional supplements, makeup and then cleaning products. So are they all from one company or do you source them from different companies?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I source from right. Now we're at 14 different brands, about 150 different products. This year we'll probably grow to about 250 different products. So and I source all these directly from the brands I've been working with a lot of these brands for about two to three years now, shopping from some of these brands myself five, six, seven, eight years.
Speaker 3:Okay, and before we launched the online store last year, what I did previously was set out and do a testing of over 50 different non-toxic brands and then a bunch of their products, and then that's how we narrowed it down to start with these 14. And then we'll continue to grow, just as the consumer kind of demands. I mean, we started with 10 and I got a lot of feedback from our customers saying, like we want these products, you want these products, and so we've just expanded based on what our customers kind of want, and it's been great so far. It's been nice to even just communicate with people. I get a lot of like DMS and questions and people about being like I use this product. What do you have on your website that's similar, and I love to help those people because why not? Right? Like I want them to have a better product for them, for their health, for their family, and so it's been great.
Speaker 2:So how do let's get into the business side of things? So you know you are well, you have some acronyms NCRWP so nutrition counseling Consultant. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Restorative wellness practitioner.
Speaker 2:Okay, not royal.
Speaker 3:I think so.
Speaker 2:You studied that. But now you get into retail. It's online retail.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I say this on so many of my episodes, but I talk shark tank language, like where do you source your product? Obviously you're getting it from the brands. Do you have inventory that you store somewhere? Yes, how do you manage the fulfillment and how do you go? How do you scale your business like that? So I'm a business owner I'm listening to the show, maybe I'm a chiropractor, maybe I'm in some, you know, health and wellness field, and I see why I should just vertically integrate. Right, you know, don't send my customers, my clients, my patients, to the store when I could provide them myself and probably provide them better guidance. So how did you do that? And where do you store your product? How do you have it fulfilled, do you?
Speaker 3:have a third party fulfillment.
Speaker 2:So how does that work?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So the idea came about. A year into my practice I had clients start saying to me I wish you had your own store, I wish I could shop directly from you, it'd be so much easier. And I was like, oh gosh. I was like that's so nice of you, but I just I just can't do that right now. Right, I have a full practice. I have a full book of clients every single month and I work with every client for six to 12 months. So it's a very intensive process.
Speaker 3:And then I kept having this being said to me and I'm like you know what I should do it, and I grew up working in retail. I worked in a little boutique in Westwood, new Jersey, for I don't know a bunch of years in high school and college, and so I'm like I could do this. But e-commerce is a whole beast in and of itself and I went through a lot of the iterations as I was planning it, of do I do this drop ship? Do I do this where I hold the inventory and I ship it out myself? And there are give and takes to both right Pluses and minuses and so for me, I decided to hold the inventory myself. So I own the inventory, I buy everything wholesale. Right now we are doing this out of my home.
Speaker 3:My husband's probably ready to like kick me out because I said it would be a small online store and 14 brands, 150 products is not small, and so, for me, growth right now I think 2025 is going to be a little bit more of like the year of questions than answers for me.
Speaker 3:But, we're exploring, going into a retail space in Bergen County actually, and that way I'll actually have like a multifunction space that will be part for me to see my clients and patients in person and then retail, because I simply just need more space at this point. And I would say for anyone out there who's looking to do this, I mean, I have always been like a do and figure it out as you go along- the way kind of person.
Speaker 3:And that's been great for me. But I would also say like I've gotten so much help and support. I'm a bunch of a ton of entrepreneurial networking groups and solo entrepreneur groups and I hired marketing people and just different people who've helped me along the way and so I wouldn't be able to do this alone.
Speaker 3:I mean, I've had a lot of support and help and as we continue to grow, I mean it's just going to be really fun and I think we'll have to hire more staff. We'll have to hire more people. Yeah, It'll be really exciting.
Speaker 2:That's great. So we're kind of coming to the end of our time here. How would people reach you? What's the best way to contact you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you can find me on my website it's just www. nontoxichomes. com or on my Instagram, which is just at nontoxich homes, with an underscore at the end, and there's a ton of information there, both educational there's more information on working with me one-on-one as a client and then a ton of information on our store and products.
Speaker 2:That's great, excellent. So I'm looking forward to you opening up a storefront in Bergen County. You can tell me where you're targeting at some point, but is it in the Westwood area, who knows? Because, well, you know, I mentioned in the beginning of the show that you are from Bergen County and you're from the town that I live in now and a couple of blocks away from where I live now.
Speaker 3:So it's funny.
Speaker 2:There's a Vincent Street, there's a Raymond Court, a Marianne and a Vincent, and my father's name is Vincent. My uncle was named uh, my uncle's Raymond, and I had an aunt Marianne. When I first met them I was walking my dog. It was like oh, look at that. Oh, look at you know a lot of streets with family names on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, hopefully next time you walk, mary, maybe you'll see my brother or sister-in-law, or you'll think of me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean I don't know if they have a dog, because it's usually how you meet people sometimes if they don't have kids the same age.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no same dog, but maybe wandering toddlers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my dog pees on the lawn, maybe he'll come out. And Well, caitlin, thanks very much. This is really very educational, informative, a bit scary for me, but a lot to learn. And you know, as I was drinking a coffee before you know, we came on air and I was had a little bit of gas, you know like burping a little bit and I'm like, oh man, what's my gut telling me. But we can talk about that offline and and uh, thank you so much for joining and you and I'll be right back okay, thank you thank you for listening to the good neighbor podcast.
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