Death Coven

Episode 39: Unhinged New Year Debauchery

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Happy New Year, little witchlings! In today's episode Poppy, River, and Skye just get together and chat about the new year, reminisce about the previous year, and just generally yap away as good friends do. So join us, pull up a seat, pull out your brand new calendars and planners, and let's hop into 2026 Death Coven Style

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River

Mm-hmm. Apparently 2025 is the end of like the snake era according to what astrology Instagram. Girlies keep telling me on the algorithm, which is why it sucked so bad. It's about like shedding and rebirthing and like the discomfort that comes with all of that, which is apparently why it sucked so bad the past few years.

Skye

that also like, like we also recently entered into the age of Aquarius finally, or something like that. Right?

River

I don't know. I'm a fake astrology. Girly.

Skye

don't

Poppy

I have no idea. And what does that even mean? It's just like more loosey goosey.

Skye

I, I'm sure there's probably some specific celestial body. Something, something.

River

I think it's like something, something with the fool card of like, like revolutions and like a new age of like wisdom and peace or whatever. Very out with the old in, with the new for the better.

Skye

Dunno, couldn't, couldn't tell you.

River

I, I'm excited to break out my 2026 calendar though.

Poppy

Oh yeah.

Skye

kind did you get?

River

I found a

Poppy

hold it, hold it, hold it. It has to do with the hypothetical.

Skye

Oh,

Poppy

share.

River

you sneaky little devil. Okay, everybody shut the hell up. We're not there yet.

Skye

okay.

Poppy

Oh, are we in?

River

I think so.

Poppy

Welcome to Death coven. Woo. Happy New Year 2026.

Skye

Insert champagne, popping bottle noise,

River

Woo. The Great Gatsby party in the background going on.

Poppy

This is a podcast by a death coven that comes out every other Thursday. Thank you for joining us today. We're going a little bit lax. A day is a goal and we're talking about the new year and just generally what, what the hell is going on? Where have we been? Where are we now? Where are we going? Cotton? I, Joe. Um,

Skye

will find it along the way.

Poppy

yeah. We'll, you know, this is a, this is chill. If we end up, oh, we've all said that this is going to probably be a little bit unhinged'cause we're all feeling a little goofy wild right now.

Skye

It'll be what it is.

Poppy

Slap happy, slap your pappy.

Skye

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Poppy

Ah,

River

I would never slap my pappy. My pappy's dead. Thank you very much.

Poppy

you dig him up.

River

Oh,

Poppy

Uh, what did I say? Um, all right, well that's what we're doing now. So I'm extracting a lemon seed from my drink and

River

ew.

Poppy

my fingers were deep in there.

Skye

Drink reveal. I sky. I'm sky By the way, one of the hosts of this podcast,

Poppy

Oh yeah,

Skye

um, uh, I am drinking a mimosa, just a tradition. OJ Sparkling Wine.

Poppy

yeah. Nice. A breakfast cocktail to kick off the breakfast of the year. January.

Skye

Yes.

River

I've never thought of it like that, but that's so true.

Poppy

I, well, January. I feel like it might be more of like a your morning coffee before you make breakfast kind of month perhaps.

River

I try to eat a little bit of my breakfast before I drink my coffee.'cause apparently it's not

Poppy

'cause you care about your body. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

River

I'm just incredibly sensitive to caffeine, so I have to be real careful.

Poppy

Yeah. And what do you drink in River who is also a host of this podcast?

River

I have a, an easy, simple, humble lime white claw with me today.

Poppy

the deal with the natural lime? Is there like a regular lime? Unnatural

River

no, I think they just call it that. Yeah. They have this one and they have like the dumpster lime.

Skye

dumpster

Poppy

for real.

River

Yeah.

Poppy

lime, that's my lime Sona personally.

Skye

I am a key lime'cause I'm so petite and small

River

Oh, I'm so petite and I'm like a little bit tart.

Poppy

And I wanna cream your pie,

Skye

You put me in a pie. Yeah.

Poppy

put you in a

Skye

on my pie. Yeah,

Poppy

Uh, and I'm

Skye

started, the gas leak has

River

It's already

Skye

chat. Yeah,

River

It started minutes ago.

Skye

hours ago.

Poppy

tequila and lemon juice and a ginger lime poppy.

River

Mm.

Poppy

that's where I am.

Skye

And that's also your name, poppy.

Poppy

And that's my name, poppy. That's me, yeehaw Shaw. Okay. Y'all wanna do a cute little hypothetical?

Skye

Yeah, that's a thing we do

Poppy

Yeah. At the beginning of every episode, we do a, what we call a hypothetical. It, sometimes it's a question, sometimes it's a, uh.

River

Sometimes it's a

Poppy

Situations. Sometimes it's an event. Um, and it, today it's just a cute, it's just a cute little question. Easy breezy, simple. In honor of the, of the new year, uh, I want you to describe your perfect planner slash calendar slash whatever you use to keep track of stuff. Is it physical, digital, hourly, daily, weekly, monthly. Do you not use anything at all color coded? You know what, tell, tell me about it.

Skye

I have a rant. Can I open with a rant?

Poppy

Please. I wish you

River

pop off Queen.

Skye

It's a rant at myself, and it was something that I've been thinking about recently because it's

Poppy

coming out swinging.

Skye

Every fucking year I buy a planner

Poppy

I

Skye

and I don't fucking use it by March. That shit is empty, but like the first month or two, oh, there's like stickers. I have different color pens

Poppy

This year's, the year.

Skye

every year is the year and no year's the fucking year. So do you know what actually works for me though? A combination of two things because, and I'm so disappointed, I'm, I wish I was a fucking, oh, what's it called? Those, those girlies who do like the

Poppy

Oh, I know what you're talking about. Like the, um, oh God, what is it

Skye

what is it called? It's a bullet

Poppy

bullet

River

Is it? Okay.

Skye

I wish I was a bullet journal girly. In my heart of hearts I am because I'm like, ooh. Because I love to have stickers and draw, and I love the idea of

River

my secret symbols. That only I understand.

Poppy

You're writing in Wingdings.

Skye

yes.

River

And somehow you understand it perfectly.

Skye

But you know what actually works for me, and I fucking hate this, it's just a whiteboard calendar combined with my Google calendar.

River

Mm-hmm.

Skye

That's it.

Poppy

feel that.

River

Yep.

Skye

my notes, app,

Poppy

What do you keep in your Google calendar? Just like appointments and stuff, or do you put social things in there and whatnot? Yeah. That's good.

Skye

um, appointments for, I have a client that I see, I go to her house and so I like schedule with her using my Google calendar, and then I transfer it onto my physical whiteboard calendar. Um, Michael and I also have, in addition to, I have like a whiteboard that is like a blank calendar that I can fill in. We also have a larger. A standard whiteboard where we have two columns, we have a need, like items we need like if we're running outta toilet paper or whatever. And then the other side is a to-do column. So if there's like a bill, if I need to go to the post office and like whatever errand or chore or whatever needs to be done that we needed to be reminded of, or if we need to put a magnet on the board with like an envelope that needs to be taken care of. Like that's sort of how our systems of operation work. It's not a fun cutesy bullet journal like I wish it was, but that it is very utilitarian.

River

the job done.

Skye

done. I just need a big sign in my house that goes, fucker take care of it. Remember this?

Poppy

Yeah. You

River

remember this bill?

Skye

You wrote it in block capital letters in red and underlined it.

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

Skye

Get it done. Get her

River

And then you circled it'cause you forgot.

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

Skye

Yeah. So that's what works for me. Sorry, I

Poppy

Oh, you know what's so good though? A Juicy Expo marker. Like

River

Mm. Fresh

Skye

is a content creator who I sometimes see, and she's a teacher and she rates the juiciness of different branded markers workers,

River

I want that shit

Poppy

Back when I was teaching, I, so I shared classrooms and the markers were just there, and by the like end of the very first week of the semester, they would just be dry and squeaky. And some people just brought their own markers and I never did, but I should have like, looking back at it,'cause it just

Skye

ass, broke ass. Just

Poppy

I was, I was a fucking grad student, bro. I didn't have the money to buy expo

River

Expo mark, name brand. Expo markers. Expensive.

Poppy

But it just makes everything so much worse when you're trying to, like, first of all, you're up talking in front of a bunch of like 19 year olds that hate your guts and then your

River

you are like 22 years old and you're like, I'm your peer, please.

Poppy

Like, please respect me. Ugh.

Skye

What about y'all?

River

I feel like Poppy is the most, not

Poppy

it's similar, it's similar

River

Yours is just a little bit more, how you say categorized, I guess. Like you put a lot of stuff on your calendar.

Poppy

I, so I have, first of all, I do use Google Calendar, but only for work. I don't use it in my personal life. But I keep that shit up to date for work. You know, you kind of have to with like meetings and projects and whatnot. So there's that. And then I have, for my personal life, I have both a planner and then the whiteboard that I have out in my kitchen. Uh, and I've been doing that for years. And it's like a huge five foot by four foot whiteboard that I have in

Skye

interesting to be that you go vertical with your whiteboard instead of

Poppy

Well, so I like to write like at the beginning or at the end of every month. For the next month, I write out like top to bottom every single day in order, like first day of the month to the last day of the month. And I put all of my stuff in then, uh, and it's color coded appointments are in blue. Anything socials, orange, uh, anything exercise related, like yoga classes or aerial or whatever, that's pink. Anything work related is light green. And then anything with Greg is dark green,

River

Hmm.

Skye

green. Greg. Yeah,

Poppy

green Greg.

River

old Green Greg. They call him

Poppy

He's more blue in my

River

Greg.

Poppy

but blue is already spoken for with the, um,

River

Blue is medical

Skye

Blue was there before Greg came around, so Greg's gotta get kicked to the side for green.

Poppy

is like doctor's appointments and vet appointments

Skye

very.

Poppy

hair haircuts and shit.

River

I have a very similar color coordinating system where blue is medical appointments and vets, but social events are pink, and then my bills are orange and then paydays are green.

Skye

Yeah,

Poppy

And I, I also do use a planner and I keep up with my planner. At the beginning of the year last year, I went in and I wrote down all the birth, like Sky was saying, like birthdays and like big events, vacations and shit like that. That's already planned. And then again, at the beginning of every month and as I go, like as things pop up, I just put it in, in the planner. So that's like my source of truth. And then every month I'll kind of transcribe that onto whatever's relevant onto the whiteboard.

Skye

but also metaphysically you do your, um, like goal spreadsheet thing. Like I feel like that would also count in this kind of

Poppy

I

River

Oh yeah, your

Skye

where you tally

River

phase challenges

Skye

didn't do it daily sort of thing.

Poppy

Yeah. Every, either every month or depending on like, my goals at that time period, it, it is like with the moon phases. So it'll either be like New Moon to full moon, full Moon to New Moon or just the whole month. And I break those up into three categories. Mind, body, spirit, for mind. I usually do like meditation. And then, for the past six months or so, I've been doing like living the eight limb path, like through my yogic journey bodies, nourishment, like fruits and vegetables and whatnot.'cause I have a really hard time, as I've said before, eating fruits and vegetables. So I keep track of it. Uh,

Skye

eating meat and taters y'all. She's just eating meat and taters all the

Poppy

And bread, bro. I, it's just so hard when, when I get into like a groove with it, it's a lot easier, but I have

River

Once you fall outta that groove, you're like, ah,

Poppy

Yeah,

River

buy a fruit.

Poppy

then it just goes bad in the fridge and I'm like,

River

Yeah.

Skye

Yeah.

Poppy

Um, and then spirit is, uh, like any kind of deity stuff. Sometimes it's tarot, sometimes, sometimes I do meditation there. Uh, and then dream work. Yeah.

Skye

you get a little prize depending on how good you did.

River

Sometimes you get a little treat.

Poppy

I have like a ranking system. So usually there's like gold, silver, bronze, or cop. Is that what Yeah, bronze and bronze is like, did I make it through the cycle and keep up with everything? Like, did I actually fill out this tracker and then I get a tiny reward? Silver's, like, did I reach this point threshold and then go's like, yeah, you knocked it out of the park. You get to schedule a massage or something like that. You know, let me get my, my planner for this year. It's really, it's different from my previous planners.

River

Different.

Skye

I am excited to hear about that. Like if you used to lean towards a certain kind of planner and what drew you to this one, what makes it different? Do you like it? Are you gonna go back to the old way? Are you gonna try a new one? I love plan again. Wish I was a bullet journal. Girly. I'm not.

River

at heart. You're a stationary

Skye

Do you know how much washy tape I have that doesn't not get fucking get

River

I've seen it. Yes.

Poppy

this was mine from last year

Skye

Oh, that's so cute.

Poppy

2025. It's a thicken, it's like a big book. Um,

Skye

you do weekly, monthly? How does yours

Poppy

this one, so this one was a little bit too much because there's a, there's a monthly at the beginning of each month, but then after that it's just like, um, like daily spreads and

River

Hmm. Mm-hmm.

Poppy

mood scale, uh, main focus of the day, food tracking. I'm grateful for a shopping list, like, you know, stuff like that. There's an urgent category and it was just a little bit too much. Um, so this year I paired down a ton and it's this

Skye

so

River

Hell yeah.

Poppy

this one is,

River

I used to buy those all the time. I love that

Skye

It looks like the size of an old school. Um, address book. Like, I feel like at home we, yeah, we used to have like a little address book about that

River

And that's all you need.

Poppy

instead of like an every single day, it's two pages that covered the whole week. And I feel like that's much more,

Skye

That's more of what I'm familiar with. All the, the planners that I usually have bought in the past, they're physically larger.'cause I like a big thing to put all my stickers in and what have you when I actually use a planner. But it'll have

River

When you sit down for 45 minutes to plan out your week.

Skye

Every Sunday night. Yeah. And it would have like a traditional calendar with like the little squares. And then after that it'll have like the week, every day gets like a little, a little chunk and you

Poppy

Like for me, the smaller it is, it's one of those like, um, like mental manipulation tricks where it's like, the smaller it is, the more it looks like the text is filling it up, the more likely I am to use it because it looks like I, I'm actually like making a difference in the book, you know? Does that

Skye

with a bigger one, you feel like you need

Poppy

There's too much

River

too much empty space. I'm

Poppy

And I'm like, oh, I don't have that much stuff. Yeah. Why bother writing anything down? But then when it's small like that,

River

You're like, I'm, I'm so busy. I can't. I'm so busy.

Poppy

Well, actually, like keeping a planner for me makes me realize how much free time I have, if that makes sense. Because I, I do, I mean, I have a lot of activities and things that I do regularly and whatnot, but it highlights the free spaces between the events for me. So I'm like, okay, what can I, what can I

Skye

Have you bought, is that 1 4 20 26.

Poppy

Yeah. This is 2026. A nice light green. I, feel like 2026 for me is

River

Also so cheap, but God does it work?

Skye

yeah, I just bought a new duvet for the

Poppy

me too. Well, I didn't buy it, but yeah,

Skye

and the duvet cover, I got like a light sage color, so I'm with you on like, sage.

Poppy

this is our new one. I just,

River

Gorge.

Poppy

I just, it's sage green as well.

Skye

Did you get it from, from, from Bezos?

Poppy

the, from, from Jeff Bezos? No, it was a, um, it was on the wedding registry. Yeah.

Skye

Okay. I get him. And somebody

Poppy

It was a wedding

Skye

remember. Yeah. I have your wedding gifts come in. This is separate. I don't know if you want to cut

Poppy

Um, a lot of them have, some of them are on back order and they have not. Yeah.

Skye

I don't remember. I think I got you Tupperware.

Poppy

You, oh, that came in and that's already come in

Skye

Hell yeah.

Poppy

been really good. I'm trying to switch over from plastic to class,

Skye

Which is dangerous for you. I,

River

Brave of you to do

Skye

it's thick though. It's like thick.

Poppy

The ones that you got me

River

tempered. Yeah.

Poppy

Yeah. I

Skye

them out, so hope you love them.

Poppy

I They will be hard to break. Knock on wood.

Skye

don't knock them on wood. I wouldn't recommend

Poppy

No, I ate a big old bowl of cereal in one of'em last

Skye

Nice. I,

River

Is it like a rectangle shape?

Poppy

Uh, there's, it's an assortment. There are some circular ones, some rectangles, a

River

I think it's very funny to eat cereal out of like

Poppy

out of a square bowl.

River

Yeah.

Poppy

I used to

River

cereal shape.

Skye

refill my mimosa before we dive into the main segment.

Poppy

river's gotta tell us about their

River

I sure didn't. I'm just polite.

Skye

Oh. I thought, well, I'll do it

River

No, I talked about my color coordination system, but on my little calendars,

Poppy

I wanna hear it.'cause you were talking about your gay

River

my, my queer little, I found, uh, online the beauty of the internet. There is a queer Catholic artist online. I believe their handle is. Give me a second. have to go through like three layers of do you actually want to go on Instagram right now? How much time do you want to spend on Instagram

Poppy

oh, is that like a parental control app or something, or?

River

like my mindfulness timer.

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

River

like my, my minimalism timer. It's like, how much time are you trying to spend? I'm like, fuck you.

Poppy

How, what is, what is

River

for

Poppy

Oh, it's a, oh,

River

literally just like the minimalist phone app.

Poppy

okay. Is it

River

Yeah. Uh, it's like a one time subscription, I want to say, or like, um, I don't think it's yearly. I think it's like a one time and you can just use it for however, however long you

Poppy

I need something like that, man.

River

It's, it's relatively easy to get workarounds to spend more time than you should be on apps.

Poppy

Yeah, but then it shames you a little bit and you're

River

It shames you. And also the new thing they're doing with it is the longer you're on an app throughout the day, the more time you spend on it. If you're still on an app and the time runs out, it'll send you a popup and there's like a mindfulness like wheel that you have to wait for it to fill up and then go down. And the longer you're on that app, the slower it goes. So you have to really think about it. Very annoying sometimes

Skye

that brick.

River

thought about it.

Poppy

Yeah. I

River

I'm on Instagram now.

Poppy

I don't use my phone for work anymore, so I

River

Yeah,

Skye

That's good.

River

coach.

Poppy

yeah.

Skye

I feel like that's a good excuse of like, well, I need it for work, and then you end up on Instagram.

Poppy

Yep.

River

Yeah. For too long that there's a queer Catholic artist on Instagram under the handle and her Saints, and I just randomly found them scrolling one day, and they made a queer liturgical calendar for 2026. So I got all the feast days, the important Catholic holidays, and each month is themed after a saint. And it's a very beautiful, and it's an independent artist, and I love supporting independent artists, but I'm really just, I have one physical calendar that I keep everything on. It hangs in my kitchen. It's a Moen calendar. I got a Barnes and Noble last year.

Skye

So you haven't bought one for 2026 yet?

River

I did, it's my liturgical calendar.

Skye

Oh, it's a calendar. I don't know why. In my mind, I thought it was a planner.

River

I'm not, I was a planner girly when I was younger, but then I grew up and I got a calendar. I,

Poppy

I used to travel so much, I had to bring it with me. Like I couldn't just leave

River

I, for some reason, when I was younger, I wouldn't put stuff in my calendar on my phone. If I was like away from a calendar now I'll just put it in my phone as like a placeholder so I can look back

Skye

We have, Michael just bought our, um, hanging calendar.'cause we, we get like a, it's basically just a decorative calendar, um, of the year. And I picked our one from last year, which was the anime spy family themed, which was very cute. But Michael got ours for this year and it's a cosmos themed one. It's like some photographer that takes really closeup pictures of like the sun and really cool, like astrological stuff. So it's just like, it's like space themed basically for 2026.

Poppy

He loves space.

Skye

I mostly use the physical calendar like that to, to view the moon phases.'cause a lot of those will have like moon phases on them. And I'm like, when's the noon moon?

River

I haven't checked to see if my new calendar has the moon phases on

Skye

Well, I feel like, so there are many Catholic holidays that fall, like our lunar base, like Easter, right?

River

not partic, that's more of like the Jewish calendar that's lunar based. The Catholic calendar is more like day based.

Poppy

Mm.

Skye

but it's not Easter a a moon based one.

River

I don't think so. It's just about his resurrection.

Poppy

It's like a certain number of Sundays after.

River

It's a certain number of days after the, uh, the crucifixion,

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

River

the three days he was in hell and then he was risen and they opened the tomb. They said, what the fuck? It's,

Poppy

And the amount of times that I Google moon phase today.

Skye

Easter is set at the first Sunday after the first full moon that occurs on or after the vernal equinox.

River

hmm.

Poppy

Hmm.

Skye

I knew East, I'm not even fucking Catholic. And I'm like, I know this shit is moon based. It's because it's a weird, because sometimes Easter will either be, it's, you think of it primarily as like the mid to late months in April, but sometimes it's like weirdly, like in a

River

It moves around sometimes.

Skye

it's not like Thanksgiving where it's like it's the last Thursday of November or whatever. Like it's, it depends on the New Moon or the full moon rather

River

Yeah. The more you know,

Poppy

I guess Good Friday also depends on the full moon.

Skye

because it's following whatever.

Poppy

Yeah.

River

the vernal

Poppy

Which would mean lint also.

Skye

Yep. All of them,

Poppy

Huh?

Skye

I guess.

Poppy

You're backtracking. We had

Skye

Yeah. I dunno. I dunno.

Poppy

think speed and mother moon

Skye

I'll drink to that.

River

Cheers.

Poppy

clank.

Skye

are the vibes of this year? Oh, no, poppy. Are you okay? Did you get a bad sip

River

got a bad sip.

Skye

tart?

River

the back of your throat. You went,

Poppy

Yep. Little, little tart. Oh, can we talk real quick about the fucking Pantone color of the year?

Skye

Yes. I wish

Poppy

That blew my mind. Like in today's

River

color of the year is white times. Person of the year is the AI fucks.

Poppy

Yeah. Like is it just, is it literally just white or is it like

Skye

It's got a

Poppy

creamy blah blah.

River

It's like something dancer or some shit.

Skye

let

Poppy

dancer,

Skye

look

River

I think so. It's fucking white.

Skye

Cloud

Poppy

color of the year? It is cloud dancer.

Skye

Yep.

Poppy

That's, I mean, that's, it's a cute

River

I am honestly surprised they didn't go with butter yellow.

Skye

pale gray. Like at least in this,

Poppy

toned. It just looks white.

River

I.

Skye

like two notches above eggshell. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like,

River

It's all

Poppy

It's, it's a warm white.

Skye

Yeah.

River

Which is still white.

Poppy

Yeah. I feel like, um, positive. Positive. Oh my god. Odd number years are like cool toned, and even number years are warm, toned. Personally,

Skye

Mm.

Poppy

I

Skye

I do understand that even numbers are positive and odd. Numbers are negative. Like I understand why you said that though.'cause Yeah,

River

They're just so odd. Numbers are just so harsh,

Poppy

just so negative.

Skye

have that extra

River

Yeah. Whenever there's like a, an angle in a number that's not four, I'm like, whoa,

Poppy

calm down. Calm

River

whoa.

Skye

like seven,

Poppy

Seven. So

River

Like seven or five?

Poppy

Do you guys do the dash across your seven?

River

no. but I do a dash in my Zs.

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

Ooh. When you guys do the number eight, do you do an infinity or do you do the snowman?

River

Honestly, it depends on how fast I'm

Poppy

If I'm trying to have good handwriting, I'll do the snowman. If I'm just like journaling or whatever, then it's a,

River

It's an s with a, like a, a sign through

Poppy

Do you start at the bottom or the top though?

River

I start at the top.

Skye

I go, I go up to the left, down to the right. Back up to the left.

River

Mm-hmm.

Poppy

I start at the center point and then go left down and over and across.

Skye

that's psychotic. sociopathic behavior.

Poppy

it rounder for me. I don't know.

Skye

I mean, everybody's handwriting is so, I mean, I literally take my paper and I tilt it at like a 50 degree angle and write in italics. So I, I can't, I it's'cause when I learned cursive, we, we did that and just ever since then, that's how I write.

River

It's

Poppy

helps you get a better,

River

Yeah.

Poppy

grip on You gotta

River

Otherwise, my arm's at a weird angle while I'm writing on this straight

Skye

because who, who writes just like vertical up and down, you know what I mean? Like with your, you.

Poppy

if you're left-handed, if you're left-handed, you

River

oh, lefties have it

Skye

he's a lefty.

Poppy

Yeah. I've only ever dated left-handed men then.

Skye

What is up with that?

Poppy

I don't know. No idea.

Skye

Have they all had blue eyes also? No.

Poppy

No

Skye

'cause I think other Michael had brown eyes. Right? I,

Poppy

other Michael had brown eyes and um, the other guy before that was also was eyed.

River

Hmm.

Skye

mm. I think that he just gives scary blue eye energy to me, you know?

Poppy

Yeah,

River

Yeah. Like those intense blue eyes.

Poppy

man. If he had blue eyes it would be too much with his, his just the intensity

Skye

his energy.

Poppy

just blind me.

Skye

Ugh.

Poppy

Uh, anyway.

Skye

How

Poppy

Any other comments on our calendars or,

Skye

No. I thought we, uh, are we, I think we're

Poppy

I don't, I don't know. I just wanted to give River an opportunity to finish up if

River

my calendar's out. I'm done. I'm over it.

Skye

I'm over it. Do we have any, um, predictions that we wanna

Poppy

Death

River

I can't say that. I can't say that and leave it in

Skye

Just like grand scale? Oh, I have one. I think that, um, Rachel's gonna get pregnant again

River

again. Yeah,

Skye

And also Violet,

Poppy

summer

River

I hope not.

Poppy

Perhaps. I think they might be done for a little bit. Unless it's an accident.

Skye

well, that's, I'm not trying to say it, but that's what I'm saying.

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

But I think intentional from Rachel

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

and an accident for Violet. Sorry if Violet, if you're listening. I love you, girl. I wanna see more than things. You do, you do great work.

Poppy

little babies. He did great

River

Great job.

Skye

they're beautiful. I love them.

Poppy

I forget which, oh, what's his name? Oh my God. Who was it recently that I was like, they're gonna die soon. The actor, you know who I'm talking about?

River

Ian McKellan.

Poppy

Ian McKellen?

River

Yeah.

Skye

said, I have a bad feeling about Ian McKellen and did not say what you meant by that and then fell asleep.

Poppy

I, I just had like a very, very, well, I was driving, I

River

I mean he's what, like 90 something at

Poppy

in his late eighties or

Skye

He's knighted, right? Isn't he a sir?

River

He's Sir Ian McKellan. Yeah.

Poppy

in McKellen.

Skye

You Google right now. He's already dead. Can you imagine?

River

Fuck. The news just breaks.

Poppy

I did see. So you know how they have like their birthday on one side and then like the death date on the other side usually. Um, so on the left side, right now it says, age 86, May 25th, 1939. And then on the right it says Ian Kellen 2017. And I was like, what has he been dead? But no, it,

River

whole time.

Poppy

else. It was like an X-Men thing.

River

Mm.

Skye

Oh, right, right, right, right. Imagine they have like a future date already listed. Can you

Poppy

Oh my God.

River

God.

Skye

just predicting,

River

They're just like, yeah, we'll see. We'll change it if it doesn't happen. Any who?

Skye

anyway, we were talking earlier, talking about, I don't, did, was it during, while we were recording that, we briefly mentioned the 25 for 25 that Poppy and I do. I don't remember if that

River

I think it might've been at the very beginning of

Poppy

I know we like touched on it last night in the group

Skye

yeah, so I'll just reidify for the listeners that, um, in years past. For the past, I don't know, maybe I don't Poppy. Uh, did you do it? Uh, at least for the last two years.

Poppy

Yeah. So I've done it. I've done it for three years

Skye

Yeah, so I think mm-hmm. So I think for the past several years, poppy and I have done um, like 22 for 22, 25 for 25. So it's just a goal list that we write, you know, late December, thinking about the year ahead, things that we want to accomplish for that year

Poppy

Yeah. Small goals, not like huge.

Skye

goals. You can put some big ones, but it's just supposed to be sort of a wide swath of,

Poppy

things to

Skye

and yeah. And they can be things that you either have already done or things that you know, for certain will get done. Like one of the ones that I checked off for last year was move. I knew that my lease was coming up, we had to move, but it was just something easy for me to check off.

Poppy

Yeah. I had get married online

Skye

yeah, exactly.

Poppy

planned.

Skye

Yeah. And you had put a get engaged on the year before

Poppy

Yeah, and I did. So

Skye

come true. So,

Poppy

yeah. Don't let your dreams be dreams.

Skye

yeah. So grand reveal, I'm not doing one this year.

Poppy

Oh,

Skye

And that is because with, it kind of ties a spoiler alert, we. Prerecorded the next episode before this episode. So kind of going into the ideas that you'll hear about next episode is why I decided not to do a 26 for 26 this year. But basically in previous years where I've created these lists for myself, I have felt very bold and, and assumptive of the whole year. And as it turns out, every single year, December me is different from May me and different from November. Me.

Poppy

Honestly, March me. March me versus January. Me completely different

Skye

And

Poppy

Once a sun comes back,

Skye

yeah, I grow and adapt and change, and honestly, don't even fucking revisit the list immediately after I write it. Half the time, what's on

River

just find it again halfway after the years through and

Skye

Just at the year's end, I'm like, oh yeah, let's see if I happened to complete any

River

by luck. I wasn't checking. But let's see if anything happened.

Skye

Yeah. And most of the time I check off like the main ones that were probably gonna happen anyway, even if I hadn't written them down. But anyway, I, I, end of the year, I think about New year, new me, January one, things are gonna be different. I'm different, yada, yada, yada. I buy that new planner. I don't use.

River

This is the year I finally turned

Skye

This is the year and I get, I

River

for absolutely no reason.

Skye

love that energy of reinventing

Poppy

It, it feels good until you run outta steam.

River

Yeah.

Skye

It feels good. And then you have to experience the month of February and then it,

Poppy

It's like a caffeine

River

And nobody's having a good

Skye

and nobody's having a good time. So with all of that being said, I have thought about this and I'm like, well, I still want to adapt and grow and change and have goals as a person throughout my year. So what would be a better way to do this? Um, it basically, I'm paring it down, so I'm going to attempt, I will not, I mean, I would like to do it, but I'm not, this is my first time doing it. So we will, I'm gonna give myself a little bit of grace,

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

Skye

monthly or quarterly goals and maybe only doing like five of them depending on what the goals are.'cause some of them may be more quarterly appropriate, some of them may be more monthly appropriate. Um, and trying to do more check-ins. So that's kind of the issue that I have. The main issue is like lack of check-ins. So if I set it for a shorter parameter, hopefully the idea is that I end up doing more check-ins. And I think that if I pair it with like my monthly

Poppy

the monthly tarot, reading. I was gonna say,'cause that's, I mean, that's something we do regularly, so it's a great check-in

Skye

let, let me pair it with my monthly tarot. Do do a check-in. Even if I didn't do a quote unquote good job at the list, let me at least check in and see what's going on there. So that way I can adapt throughout the year and say, you know what? For the past three months, this item has been on my list and I haven't done it a single time. Maybe it's time to scrap that idea and, and think of something else, and like refresh the list as the year goes on, and sort of adapt with what is needed as the year progresses instead of in December, trying to predict how my

River

What's going to happen next year? I think that's a more sustainable way to do it, because looking at these like long, daunting lists, you're like, you have no way of knowing that's how it's gonna shake out for you next

Poppy

And also

River

like a very little room for

Skye

Yeah.

Poppy

it's like, oh, I have all this time to accomplish that, so

River

365 days.

Poppy

Whereas if you're doing it monthly, you're influencing me. I'm being influenced. Yeah.

River

influence. Quick hold something up to the camera.

Skye

knowing Poppy. She'll just keep the 26 for 26, and then in addition to on

River

And just be doing some new

Skye

shit on the

Poppy

I feel like the, I was actually thinking that I was gonna do that. Yeah.

River

Mm-hmm. I'm being influenced to do something

Poppy

but those are, like we said, those are more like overarching, like, like one of mine, for example is just like, start running again or, um,

Skye

Does that mean if you go on one run that you can check that off?

Poppy

no, no.

Skye

what? Like what are the

Poppy

consistently throughout the year. Yeah. Um, uh, like one of them obviously is like my honeymoon thing or like performing in an aerial show, and I feel like those are, I can just check those off throughout the year. But yeah, maybe three, I feel like three monthly slash quarterly goals would

Skye

yeah,

Poppy

would be good.

Skye

yeah. Three, three to five. I,'cause I'm like, I haven't really written any down yet. I haven't really sat down and thought about logistically specifically. I like, I don't currently have any examples for you where we're still recording in like mid-December. So it's not actually January yet and I haven't, I'm waiting to, I have room in my tarot journal for one more entry and I'm saving it for like my ul end of year reading. So that way when I buy a new notebook, I've already bought a new notebook. Actually I can have it to be my first of the year reading. So that way on my Jan one, my fresh journal, my fresh notebook for tarot can, can be for Jan

Poppy

Love that. Oh, nothing

Skye

of

Poppy

a fresh notebook.

Skye

god. I love it. Uh, so I'm waiting for that. Uh, last Yule tarot reading to kind of give me a little bit of a guiding light of what the flavor of goals are for the beginning of the year. So I'm kind of waiting a little, I'm, I'm mulling and

River

Do you have any, even before the tarot spread, where you're like, I really wanna get that done next year. I really want to get into that next year.

Skye

Uh, well again, spoilers for the next episode, but very, very, um, generally speaking, like being more in tune with my body, generally speaking. And I have to kind of flush out and see what that means for me as the year goes on. But the, as a theme, uh, also the themes of grounding control, sort of being in my lower chakras I think is sort of gonna be a big theme for me from the solar plexus down to the root.

River

Get into that root.

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

So that's kind of being, and also exploring a little bit more masculine energy, root chakra, grounding, control, personal sovereignty, et

Poppy

Warm, toned for the even year.

Skye

Warm tone. Indeed. So that's sort of my, my vibe for the upcoming year. Loosely River, you've, what are you thinking?

Poppy

What the, what the fuck are you

River

what the hell is going on over there? What the fuck is wrong with you, dude? What's your problem? Nah, I in, I don't think I have done any sort of New Year's resolution for the past, like seven years of my life.

Skye

And that's not what I'm asking of you.

River

Oh, just like for what? My theme or my goals or

Skye

like how are you approaching the year? How do you view it? Is there any sort of loose

River

upcoming year, this past year.

Skye

this? Well either, I suppose, but primarily 2026, the upcoming year.

River

I always like to not think too far ahead. I'm a very like, Hey, I'll, I'll tell you day of, we'll see how it's feeling day of. I'm that kind of person. And I, as always, I try to be cautiously optimistic around the new year where I'm like, Hey, I, it could be good. I don't know. But I'm also open to the realities and possibilities of, Hey, something really bad could happen. Only time will tell.

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

Skye

But, but I know that there are certain things like starting a new job. Perhaps

River

I'm very tired right now, so my brain's not

Skye

okay.

River

My a, a little, a little bit of river lore. Is I the company I work for got out, uh, got bought out. So we have a new owner. We've had a new owner for the past few months now, and I've been generally unhappy at my place of

Skye

prior to the new ownership.

River

for years, for the past few years. I've just generally not been very happy there. And I would always say I love what I do. I don't love where I do it, but it was a living and they paid me well and the old owners treated us well. So it was whatever, I'll stick it out. But the new owner is the last straw that I'm willing to put up with. So my goal was to find somewhere else to work by the end of the year. I have a job interview tomorrow morning.

Poppy

God.

River

I applied to this place. It's a small local business. I applied there in October. Had a wonderful phone call with one of, like the hiring team. Great guy.

Poppy

Oh, is this the new one?

River

This is, um, it's not new. It's, they had to move. So they've been a small business. So I don't remember what I was saying, but I'm very excited. I'm very nervous.

Skye

Well,'cause I know that you're gonna get this job, obviously.

River

I hope so.

Skye

Do you feel that once you get this job and once you're at least out of where you are currently, that will help you be in a mental head space to foster further growth? Like, do you think that you're kind of limiting yourself right now? That like what you just said a moment ago about, we'll, we'll take it day by day. Like, I know that is kind of a little bit of how you are as a core person, but I do feel like, because this is such a pressing issue for you, that you, you do literally every time you go into work, you're like, I literally have to get through the day and you're so not happy. It's difficult when you're in that head space to think about the future in like a positive way and plan for growth. So do you feel that once you start this new job, you will then have perhaps more plans for the year to come?

River

I think it, if, I know you're saying when like it's a sure thing, but I'm always like the little, like, maybe not, maybe they won't. I don't know.

Skye

I am saying when you get a new job, I'm not necessarily, you know, like, because you're, you'll be

Poppy

Because you will get a new job

River

I will get a new job somewhere,

Skye

what I'm saying.

River

but when I do not currently work where I work, I think it will take a lot of the emotional fatigue and the mental burden off so that I can be like, oh, life is more beautiful than I

Poppy

outta survival mode.

River

Yeah. Where I'm not spending 28 hours a week somewhere where I'm like, God, I fucking hate you people. You are the worst people I've

Skye

And then when you're not there, you're simply recouping and preparing yourself to go back again.

River

I'm, I'm like energetically cleansing and protecting myself and lighting my sake candles and asking for like, strength. So yeah, I think it will, but I also am just like a, I don't know, we'll see what happens, kind of guy where I'm just like, I don't, I

Skye

But that's also very like,

River

gonna be.

Skye

I maybe not like, I think it is reasonable to leave wiggle room for potential in your day, but also like it is important to

River

It's important to have goals and things to work towards, and I do have things I want to work towards. It's very limited because I know myself. No, not necessarily. Like I was talking to our friend Sage, who will be talked about more in the next upcoming episode in a couple weeks where we go to the same pole dancing studio and my goal is in like the next,

Skye

You are about to enter your next phase.

River

yeah, at, in like the next two years. I want to perform in an exhibition like that is my like pole goal right now for

Skye

Well, that's awesome.

River

That's really just like the big thing I wanna work towards.

Skye

and you have a poll at home too, like you can practice like you can, you

River

got a pole in a big ass mirror.

Skye

yeah, you can have little

Poppy

I'm so jealous of you.

River

I,

Poppy

If I could have silks in my house, I would be a menace.

River

Can you like feasibly, can you, or is just like the space not,

Poppy

one, I mean, the ceilings are high enough, but I don't trust it as a renter. And also at home, rigs just kind of skive me out

River

Yeah. Sometimes I get real nervous when I do something on my pole. I'm like, I hope it doesn't, I know I checked it, but I hope it doesn't slip.

Poppy

'cause like your pole is like on the ceiling and the floor,

River

Yeah.

Poppy

like silks would just be suspended from the ceiling. And I'm like, I don't trust the ceiling

River

Unless you like bolt that shit down.

Poppy

Especially'cause I recently started practicing drops, like I don't trust it

River

ooh. God. I look so cool.

Poppy

anyway, so you're gonna perform

River

I, that is my goal.'cause bear in mind listeners, I just started pole dancing in March of 2025. It is not even March of 2026 yet. And I also took like a three or four month break in like

Poppy

you've made still.

River

It takes a lot of practice and I put my whole pussy into practicing. Over the past few months, I was doing two classes a week on average. I was bruised as all hell and I felt like I got hit by a bus after class,

Poppy

Yeah.

River

it's incredible.

Poppy

It's another one of those circumstances where I'm so incredibly proud of you for getting out of your comfort zone and doing it, and like, you know, that's,

River

I, I will pat myself on the back for that'cause it's

Poppy

It's hard. It's

River

to do, but I've been so scared

Poppy

Mm-hmm. It's

River

even during my first months of classes I was like, I'm still so scared doing this

Poppy

Yeah. And, and you get over, well, maybe not. I mean, I still struggle with it too. Like the whole, I'm not good enough. Look at all these people around me that are so

River

of the people at the studio. If I'm in the same, if the, I've had people that I had to like share a poll with'cause the classes were so big. One of like a friend I've made through classes is so good. It pisses me off and we've had to share a poll multiple times and I'm like, you're so good. It annoys me and I love you and you're one of the kindest people I've ever met. But you're so good. Yeah. But it also inspires, like, I don't get mad and down on myself. I'm like, I want to do that.

Poppy

Yeah. And I love that for you.

River

Thank you. That's really the only big goal I have. Um, I wanna be better at like, my spiritual practice. I go long stretches of like not really feeding it. So I want to be more intentional about that. Much like again, in the next episode coming up. It's a really good one. Good tion. Uh, just being more of an active participant in my life is like a broad, every single day kind of goal. I try to keep it reasonable'cause I know myself and I know how easily overwhelmed I am.

Poppy

Important to factor in because it, it's so easy to just like Sky was kind of saying like at the beginning of the year, deciding you're gonna do all of these things and biting off more than you can chew, and then when you don't hit that, you're so discouraged. You're like, oh, why even

River

Yeah. You're like, I guess I'm just a fuck up. I didn't read 52 books this year. I guess I'm just fucked up and I'm worthless. It's like, no, you still read 48 books. That's

Poppy

yeah, yeah. I might get to 50. There's still like

River

you still got two weeks.

Skye

issue with like the reading goal thing in years past is that like the books that I tend to read are fucking big dude. So it's like, you mean that only counts for one? I read almost a thousand pages in just one

River

Months to read one book.

Poppy

I also have a page

Skye

I started and finished Throne of Glass last year, and that's basically all I fucking read.

River

Yeah.

Poppy

I mean those are, that's like 10,000 pages or something crazy

Skye

Yeah, the last one was like almost a thousand pages alone. Yeah. I did the Tandem read.

Poppy

Oh, violet is doing that right now, by the way. She was just sending me a bunch of Snapchats, like venting about it. Yeah,

River

She was like, I got these two big

Skye

Does she think that Tower of Dawn is boring and that she hates reading

Poppy

uh, I don't, she was basically just saying like, with the kids, it's just hard to keep

Skye

Oh yeah. I had

Poppy

has to put it down for so long. Yeah. I'm sure there are like online guides or

Skye

that's what I used. I printed out an online guide.

Poppy

yeah. That's insane. That's crazy to

Skye

it was really fun.

River

not

Poppy

I've been doing the audio

River

for a book.

Poppy

I listen to the audio books when I run at a podcast to listen to. Uh, which now will probably be more often because Blahba Macy's retiring.

Skye

Rest in peace.

Poppy

Yeah. Who, I mean who knows what it's gonna look like in the new year. Um, by this time Macy will be retired from WBA when this comes out. Oh.

Skye

And we're listening to, as a group, a friend group, we're listening to the, uh, the milking farm.

Poppy

morning Glory

River

Glory milking

Poppy

I'm on chapter four.

Skye

I haven't started it

River

think I

Skye

saw y'all talking about it in the group chat, and I was like, no spoilers.

River

Yeah. No, we kept it pretty Spoiler

Poppy

I see what Rachel was saying when she's like, it's just a CEO like

River

Yeah. It's a millionaire fantasy. Yeah.

Poppy

Like from the first page, she's like, I'm fucking broke. I need money.

River

She's like, I guess it's not sex work, but like it kind of is, but

Poppy

it kind of is like, it's medical, but also

River

Yeah. You're

Poppy

you'll see

River

a mini

Poppy

sky. Yeah.

Skye

Also,

River

Yeah, it's, I

Skye

earlier today, they mentioned Morning Glory Milking Farm, and I was like,

Poppy

It's not, it's one of those things where it's objectively not good. Uh, like the value that I'm getting out of it is the social aspect of vent. Like, venting about it or like talking about it, you know,

Skye

The absurdity. Yeah, absolutely.

Poppy

am I enjoying it

River

to turn to your friends and go and, what the hell was that all about?

Skye

I do need to ask you, because I, I know that you guys, and I've said this before, but I actually need to get it, like, I need to remember what it is. I'm like, I, since we to it, can't stop thinking about it. I need to go back and listen to the whole series, that audio book that me, you and Rachel listened to on the way to the cruise. I was like,

Poppy

It's like a whole series basically.

River

You are like, I haven't been able to stop thinking about it.

Skye

I genuinely liked it. I was like, I kind of wanna listen to the sequel. Yeah, absolutely.

Poppy

they, they're like

Skye

There's many, I don't think I'll read the, I think it's like a, um, alien, barbarian situation where I'm just like, I

Poppy

each one is a different bitch and a different guy. Yeah.

Skye

I just wanna read like three or four until I'm tired of it and then stop. I

River

Yeah. I

Poppy

if we keep this in sky, Rachel and I did a big girls trip a couple years ago where we like drove all the way down to Miami and did a cruise and whatnot, and on the drive we listened to, uh, oh my gosh. A Soul To Keep By Opal Rain. Yeah. Which apparently is the second book in the series. Not the first one.

Skye

you. You wouldn't have needed to read the first one'cause they describe the

Poppy

Like, like the barbarian

Skye

alien barbarian. Yeah.

Poppy

listeners. Go read the Ice Planet Barbarian series.

River

good.

Skye

probably already

River

the first one. I was told to skip the first

Poppy

The second one is, the second

Skye

one's top

River

one is really all you

Poppy

The main characters in the first one are just annoying and they continue

River

And there's also like that weird kidnapping, like one of those girls gets like tortured in mind broken and I don't want to read that. She like runs off into the snow to die. Yeah.

Skye

Yeah.

River

So

Poppy

But the rest of it is,

River

book two Really. It's good stuff.

Poppy

Man. Uh,

Skye

up here?

Poppy

uh,

River

Uh,

Poppy

river was saying, oh, so I didn't read 52 books.

River

I do wanna read more in the coming. I've read a decent amount, but I'm more of like a summertime reader I've noticed.'cause I keep track of the books I read, but

Poppy

reads or you just like write'em

River

no, I just write it down in my notebook and I do my own little rating style. I don't like good reads. I don't know what it is about it. I just don't want people to know what I'm doing.

Poppy

No, I don't. I just don't like social media, like in general.

River

No, especially like letterbox, good reads. I'm like, I'm not trying to make my hobbies like a social event and a post.

Poppy

I update

River

I write it down privately in my little notebook. I give it my own little review and my own little rating. That's just for me, so I remember if it was good or not, and I don't care what anybody else thinks about

Poppy

Yeah. Listeners annually I start a spreadsheet where I keep track of all of the books that I read, only the ones that I physically read. I do not keep track of the audio

River

I keep track of audio books. I count'em.

Poppy

Um, I think they're just,'cause I use Audible even though like, fuck Amazon, but it

River

Amazon. It's just convenient.

Poppy

Uh, so that has everything in my

River

to use Libby and there's like a two month waiting period sometimes.

Poppy

but I do title, author, gender nationality fiction, nonfiction, genre, sub genre, page count, publication year, the date that I finished it, the rating. And then overall I like tally the books that I read per month.

Skye

Did you use that reading diary journal thing? Did that ever come in handy for you?

Poppy

I do not know where it is

Skye

Because I remember, I think I bought two on accident or something and I gave one to you. I in,

Poppy

Are you sure you didn't give it to Rachel? Because I feel like I would've used it if I had it. I

Skye

I gave it to somebody. I don't remember.

Poppy

think you gave it to Rachel.

Skye

must have got,

Poppy

I would have used that.

Skye

yeah, I, in natural sky fashion, started using it and then didn't keep up

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

I, I kept reading, but

River

part of why like the new year, new me, I'm gonna buy all this like new shit for my ideal

Poppy

The consumerism.

River

Yeah. I feel like it's just so

Poppy

Right after Christmas too. People, they're just like keeps spending money until we get to the next big consumer holiday.

River

Until we get to Valentine's

Poppy

god. Valentine's Day. Yeah. I like to use a spreadsheet because it auto calculates like my page averages and everything like that to keep track of average books read per month, total

Skye

My issue is just like, I, I forget to check in and so I, I just don't have the knowledge or the data of how much I've done it.

Poppy

Count function. I can count how many of each genre.

River

Hmm.

Poppy

You don't. I mean, at the end of a book, I feel like that's a pretty good checkpoint though. Like when you finish a book, you just write it down

Skye

You'd think

River

Yeah,

Skye

my brain don't work good like yours do

River

and then two weeks later I start a new book and then I'm like, oh fuck, I forgot to write that other book down.

Poppy

yeah, I literally,'cause I mean, I, as a person living in 2025, I always have my phone on me, so I just open up my little spreadsheet and enter it in like immediately after, because then my thoughts are fresh too. And I can like give, give a rating and like write down my thoughts about it just right there

Skye

your data like a good girl.

River

Mm-hmm.

Poppy

like looking back now, back toward the beginning of the year, I'm like, I don't even remember.

River

I couldn't tell you like half the books I've read this year, I remember I read The Novelization of the Alien versus Predator movie.

Poppy

Oh.

River

Yeah, it's a pretty good book. I like it.

Skye

I feel like you've read 80% Ann Rice this year.

River

I feel like that was a few years. I read one New Ann Rice book last year at Ana's, adas, whatever, and it was the fourth book in the Vampire Chronicles, which was The Tale of the Body Thief. And then I started rereading the Vampire List stat because I found it at a flea market sale.

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

Skye

Yeah. Not to out you, but I went to your house yesterday and used your toilet and I

River

it's my bathtime book. I read it when I'm in the bathroom. I read it when I'm taking a bath. Uh, it's

Skye

it looked heavily

River

media. I got it like that from the flea market. Thank you very much. The only other copy of it I have is like the first three books bound together in one big ass book, and I don't wanna take that thing into the tub with me.

Poppy

Hey, if it's your book, love it. How it needs to be Loved,

Skye

I love a well-worn book.

River

tired.

Poppy

of the 48 books I have read so far this year, 22 were horror. This year has been like the year of

River

It's been a big horror year

Skye

I am feeling that way for myself personally.

River

Yeah. I primarily read horror novels. That's just kind of like my go-to genre.

Poppy

I, I wanted to read more nonfiction this year and I didn't really, but the nonfiction I did read was really, really good,

Skye

I just finished Dark Places by Jillian Flynn.

Poppy

oh, yeah,

Skye

Um, did you read it?

Poppy

yeah. I read that a few years

Skye

It was fine. I rated It, like four stars, I think. Like it was good, but I was just like, yeah, you

Poppy

Yeah. It's just like a crime thriller.

Skye

I'm like, yeah, it was a crime book. I'm not like an a crime obsessed person, but if you are like a crime

River

are

Poppy

it's a good, just like

River

girly. You love a detective novel. You love an Agatha Christie novel.

Skye

Christie novel.

Poppy

I feel like, and this is gonna sound like a humble brag, and I promise you it's not, but I feel like I've consumed enough media at this point that I can see twists coming

River

No,

Poppy

like, it takes a lot, it takes a

River

That's how I feel about most movies. I'm like, oh, I saw it. I saw the, I saw the foreshadowing.

Skye

the

Poppy

or a book or whatever actually surprises me, and it's not one of those, like, there's no way that you could have known because we didn't give you the information, you

River

yeah. If something's genuinely like shocking and

Poppy

and you can go back and be like, oh my gosh.

River

the signs were there, but they were so subtle. Yeah,

Skye

Like I really enjoy that trope. If it's done well,

Poppy

yeah,

Skye

like if, if it's like at the end it's like, oh

River

off at

Skye

yeah,

Poppy

yeah.

Skye

anyway,

Poppy

That's kind of why I've really been into, um, what are they called? You know the book format? Like Dracula, like the book format That's like written in

River

Oh, like diary

Poppy

Yeah, like diary entries, letters and what, because that's like, so, um, unreliable, narrator

Skye

when it's removed, like it's like written from like, there's like several layers

Poppy

Yeah. It's like the narrator just experienced it and now they're relaying it to you. It's not like in the moment. So they've already filtered it through their worldview and they're actively

River

Jonathan Harker, baby, you need to

Poppy

It's not just like, because when you're writing from the third person, you're, or even the first person with it, sorry, with an unreliable narrator, they're you. They have to be like super fucked up for it to truly

River

Or like so self-centered that you're getting so little external information from them.

Poppy

But like with that type of book where it's like essentially like a found footage kind of

River

Yeah.

Poppy

then even a normal person can be like that. Yeah. Whatever. Uh, what are we, are we still talking about the new year?

River

I think so. With some twist and turns. We just love books in this house. What are some creative goals for you guys For the upcoming year?

Poppy

much like you. I also want to perform this year. My studio does

Skye

you please record yourself Performing

River

please. This is what the third performance you've done now,

Skye

you know, we can't come. We can't go see you.

Poppy

I know I'm going to an open gym on Wednesday and I'm planning to film then. But I mean we most, I, I'll have to like upload it to like a Google Drive or something so you guys

River

Uh, do what Sky and I do, when we make each other little vlogs, we upload it and keep it private on YouTube and just like send each other the

Poppy

I didn't know

River

video. Yeah.

Skye

Yeah,

Poppy

Oh, okay. I might have to do that then.

River

It's super easy, especially if you're not editing it, you're just like uploading a video.

Skye

raw video. Yeah.

River

Yeah. And then just like post the link in the Discord chat.

Poppy

Yeah. So, yeah, I wanna, I wanna do that. I also just wanna like generally do complete some kind of creative project, whether it's just like a short story or, you know, finish knitting something that I started.'cause I never finish anything, any

River

so fun to start knitting, but it's such a pain in the ass to finish it.

Poppy

yeah. So I'd like to carry something over the finish line creatively other than the podcast.

Skye

I think I feel like every year, maybe I don't, I didn't have it on my list last year, but a lot of years I have had complete and October,

River

Mm-hmm.

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

think more specifically, it doesn't have to be October. I think that might be what holding me back, because I might not always necessarily be in the right space to be doing that in October necessarily. So 30 or 31 a month of doing an everyday drawing challenge, I think could be beneficial for me to finally feel like I get that. Yeah,

Poppy

is it the everyday aspect? Okay. Because I was like, could it be your whole, like maybe once a month you complete something just so it's more manageable or,

Skye

I just feel like I've had, every time I see ink tober or people talk about it or people do it,

River

there's a big community

Skye

I wanna like get the, I think I would just wanna scratch that itch of saying like, I did it. I think I just want to do an everyday drawing challenge. It's usually simple prompts. Um, and our, one of our friends in our other group, discord, like, she'll do it with me sometimes, so it's not like I don't have a buddy who we can be accountable with. But it's like if one of us drops off, the other typically

River

If somebody has like a really busy week and you're like, ah, I fell behind.

Skye

sometimes I'd have, I'd miss a few days and then I'd have a catchup day, but I ideally don't wanna catch up day. I wanna do it consistently. And

Poppy

And some of the prompts though, were just like, they just don't resonate, which I guess is kind of maybe the point a little bit.'cause it's like draw

River

test

Skye

it makes you think outside of your comfort zone. And I could also come up with my own list. Like I could also find a list that resonates more with

River

You don't have to do the official ink tober

Skye

No, no. But I, I do wanna do some sort of daily drawing prompt so that way. I can sort of get that muscle flexed, you know what I mean? To be more regular.

River

of sporadically every like few weeks or couple months, you're like, and I'm, I'm throwing

Skye

You love

Poppy

every time you finish some. I love seeing your art, like every time you finish something and you share it, I get so excited. I'm

Skye

Oh, I did also

River

finish the tarot series.

Skye

oh, bro, shut the, I have so

River

back into

Skye

the back burner. I also have a portrait of us, my beach

Poppy

I thought you posted that one. Did you not post the portrait already?

River

yet

Skye

I did a, I did a, um, like a progress pick, but I did not formally finish it. I actually made a big decision change on that that I don't think that I told anyone about.

Poppy

Oh.

Skye

But anyway, uh, yeah, I have many

River

I'll continue not to tell you about it,

Skye

fingers in many pies artistically. Uh, but what I was gonna say was, again, kind of spoiler for the next episode, but when we were at the event that River and I were at yesterday, I did talk about how I wanted to draw figures. And I was like, what if I did like a figure drawing, like, like a drop in

River

would go with you in a heartbeat. I love figure drawing classes. I haven't been in so long,

Skye

even have to be nude. It would be nice if it was nude, but it doesn't have to be

River

generally they are nude though. Us,

Poppy

Hey, next time we're all together, I'll strip down. Y'all

River

I would say thank you

Skye

Be my muse

Poppy

I'll sit on a stool or like lay on a couch or whatever.

River

Yeah.

Skye

But yeah. What about, what about you river? I guess like your pole thing,

River

my whole thing that's, yeah.

Skye

Like, is that your creative thing?

River

yeah. That's like my big general and creative goal to work towards. I also do just want to use my sewing machine more this year for like whatever, like making mending, whatever. I just don't use it as often as

Skye

and I discussed a secret project that still needs to be done.

River

Yeah. Could I tell you what it is right now? Oh, yes. I could actually. I just remembered maybe for next year,

Skye

Like what? At what point next year? I,

River

maybe just I, it's'cause I remember last time we talked about it, we were like, oh, a nice, you will give gift and it's a little too close to you right now to

Skye

Oh, well, don't let that limit you. It could be a nice Easter gift, you know, like it could be a

River

next, sometime next year we could actually get that moving and grooving.

Skye

And Poppy's like, and I'll never know.

River

and you'll never know

Poppy

Is it for me?

River

could be, who's to

Poppy

You guys are like, no.

River

No, it's actually for my mom.

Poppy

Oh, she needs any, any help she can get,

Skye

Textiles. Huh?

River

Yeah. Cloth work.'cause I just, oh, I love sewing. I love hitting the pedal. I love adjusting the knobs for the different kind of, um, different kind of needle adjustments

Poppy

I used to use my mom's all the time in high school. Like I loved sewing and I made, I made a whole bunch of different shit and I was getting pretty good and then I left and went to college and didn't have access to a sewing machine and

Skye

you got science pilled.

Poppy

Yeah, I got fucking science pilled.

River

You stepped away from your womanly roots to pursue science.

Poppy

hey, at least I can cook now.'cause cooking is just science. Same with baking.

River

Yeah.

Skye

What about podcast goals?

Poppy

I was about to say, I was going to propose. Because I know we usually, like annually, we kind of do like a podcast, like a coven trip, you know, a short, long weekend. I was gonna propose this year that we find a haunted location, perhaps another haunted bed and breakfast or hotel, and we just go and spend a long weekend in like a dinky little town or whatever. Much

Skye

May I request? Can we buy, um, like

River

like ghost hunting gear. Like thermal imaging cameras

Poppy

we're gonna

Skye

camera, but like the, the, the voice recording

Poppy

Yeah, no, I know what you're, they're pretty cheap,

Skye

That's what I mean. Yeah.

Poppy

Yeah.

River

Ghost hunting's really been co-opted by boys on YouTube. So like the market's crashed.

Poppy

you guys be open to it though, perhaps in the late spring?

River

It depends on how far we're traveling.

Poppy

I was thinking we would stay in insert state here, like

River

Okay. Because I was like, if we're gonna need to get on a plane or something, I might, I might have to

Skye

No driving

Poppy

Yes, it I, I was thinking like ideally it would be somewhere where we can meet like in the middle perhaps. Yeah.

River

Oh, you're the one that wanted to get ghost hunting Acqui bit. But you won't go to

Poppy

We will go on a little hike before too.

Skye

beings out there that'll

Poppy

There's

River

deer out there.

Poppy

Hey,

River

The Stump Hollow man is out there.

Skye

I mean, it depe like, as long as we're not like searching the woods and we're going to like a

River

As long as I don't get Blair Witched, I'm fine.

Poppy

feel like, like a short two mile hike though would

River

No, I'd be fine with that in the daytime.

Poppy

Not in a, I mean like not necessarily in a notable, like known to be haunted area, but it is so anything could happen.

River

Just get some fresh air,

Poppy

Go light a candle, do a ritual in the woods.

Skye

a candle in the woods.

Poppy

no,

River

no, But you can

Poppy

what I mean. You know what I mean? Light a let a light, a metaphorical

River

Yeah. Bring one of those little electric tea light candles with you.

Poppy

Well, cool. I'll start researching then

Skye

Okay.

Poppy

in earnest.

Skye

Yeah. If we say we're gonna do something, poppy will manifest it almost immediately. I

River

if it's a bid or a joke. Poppy's like, I'm serious. I've already got the itinerary

Poppy

Well, I always, I always double check. I'm like, are we joking? Because you know that I don't get social cues like that a lot of the time. Like, are you joking right now or are we serious? Because if

Skye

and we're also like, you know what, if you're actually gonna go, like if you're actually gonna do it, then like Yeah. Because that's sort of the barrier to entry I think for us is like the whole to do

River

it Yeah. I don't wanna find something. I don't wanna plan it, but if somebody presents something to me, I'm like, yeah, I'll

Skye

I love that You love it.'cause I also kind of feel bad that you're always planning stuff and I'm like, how nice would it be if someone just did it for Poppy once in a

River

Yeah. But

Skye

also be uncomfortable with that?

River

we wouldn't do it. the way she wanted it.

Poppy

I don't think so. I mean, as long as I, like, I don't, as long as it's not like something that horrible that I would hate, you know? But

Skye

Well, no, but I I, but I just wonder if we planned something for you, hypothetically, if you were like, well, I wouldn't have done it like that. Well, I would've made sure this blah, blah, blah, blah. You know?

Poppy

Depend. Like if we're camping. Yes. If it's like something safe, then no. Uh, well, I was gonna say something. Fuck. Oh, I was just gonna say like, if I ever had a career change or something like that, and I had the opportunity to be like a travel planner or an event planner, oh my

River

you'd be so good at it, dude.

Poppy

the market is oversaturated.

River

Yeah. That and like real estate agents, like you cannot get in.

Poppy

And also, I just have a big girl job now that I feel like I can't escape.

River

Yeah.

Skye

We will pin

River

Even

Skye

and talk about that at a later time.

Poppy

It's just like strategically, career wise, not smart. To,

Skye

To make a lateral move. Yeah.

Poppy

Yeah. Um, planning, I love planning.

River

Mm-hmm. The

Skye

Any big plans for you and Greg coming up this year?

Poppy

We are going on our honeymoon this month. AKA January. Um, I don't wanna give like too much information, but we're basically going on a cruise,

River

Cute.

Poppy

uh, that should be nice. And then in the summer, we're doing a big beach week kind of trip with, uh, his friends. Like a lot of online people that live internationally and whatnot.

River

break, 2026, Papa Molly, and get jolly in Palm Springs.

Poppy

planning it?

River

Is it

Skye

are

Poppy

Yeah. We're gonna, I'm basically, as long as people pay me back, I'm fine with whatever. Like if I plan it and people are like, okay, here's the money that I owe you. Great.

River

Yeah. Here's the petty cash you need to actually book it

Poppy

I'm getting us a boat for the week.

River

to stay on or just

Poppy

no. In addition,'cause the house that I'm, that I wanna dig my little claws into is on the harbor, so I'm like, Ooh, wouldn't it be so cool if we got

River

To just have a boat. Yeah.

Poppy

We just go, pontooning.

River

You can play Grand theft auto on a boat.

Poppy

boat nap.

River

Yeah. Let's get real sunburned.

Skye

a hard time pissing in the water like you did that

Poppy

Oh God. Yeah.

Skye

we rented a boat.

Poppy

I can't, I can't, pee in the water.

River

You just gotta let it fly.

Poppy

I can't pee. If my feet aren't touching the ground,

Skye

That's

River

Release your, it's so freeing.

Poppy

will. I can't, like I physically cannot do it.

Skye

You're so short. I'm surprised your feet can touch the ground on her normal standard

Poppy

I have to scoot all the way up to the edge a lot of the time.

Skye

She's like, I need to use my squatty potty to touch the crowd.

Poppy

Yeah. I, oh, have we told that story on the pod before?

River

I don't

Skye

The boat story.

Poppy

Yeah. Sky. Rachel, her husband and I were doing like at a boat party or something. I forget what the context was.

River

I think it was just like a summertime, early twenties.

Poppy

by that horrible man

River

Oh, weird.

Poppy

yeah, it was like his, because they went back to his house and stuff that afterward. But I drove down and I had like, went to the hospital the day before too.

River

Oh my God. Uh

Poppy

I came, but it was because I was a hypochondriac and I thought that I had deep vein thrombosis, but I did not, because I am not,

River

you're not at high risk.

Skye

a healthy 23-year-old or whatever,

Poppy

Yeah. But I was convinced. I had, I literally, like, looking back now, I'm like, I was sore because I was lifting the day before,

Skye

Girl,

Poppy

but I somehow got it in my mind and had a panic attack and ended up at the hospital. But then we went boating and we were out

River

I had a ga. I had a great time

Poppy

We were drinking and as you do, everybody was pissing in the water. And I kept trying, I was trying so hard. I was like hanging off the side of the boat. I was like, I'm trying so hard. But I could not, and I thought that I was, I thought my bladder was going to explode and I was gonna die.

River

Oh, no. Just like that one guy in the strange DA episode. No,

Skye

he was so polite. He just had to

River

so

Skye

it.

Poppy

Oh my gosh. So Rachel's husband ended up like driving the boat to a marina just so I could pee. Oh, it was Michael. Oh, well, he, okay now I don't feel as bad'cause I, I'm sure he got some enjoyment outta driving the boat.

Skye

Yeah, obviously.

River

He said, this is all I wanted.

Poppy

I don't feel bad about inconveniencing Michael as much as I do. Rachel's husband.

Skye

Yeah. Any other relationship plans, I guess, for anybody?

Poppy

I, so we're thinking about moving, we're thinking about moving to a different place, uh, when our lease is up over the summer, but it's like, we only have one more year here, so it's kind of a, but I hate our apartment so much. I do not like it here.

Skye

You said that you don't feel at home there.

Poppy

no, uh, that's one of my resolutions is to make it feel more homey here, but I just like, I feel like a

River

What do you think it's lacking? That just doesn't feel right.

Poppy

sunlight.

Skye

Mm-hmm.

River

That's

Poppy

dark. It's very dark. Uh, it's dark all the time. And

River

Especially this time of year when you have such little sunlight to grab onto.

Poppy

I think another part of it is that like when I moved in here, I was leaving just the best place that I have ever lived, and I was mourning that. And so it kind of tainted this place for me, like to the point where there are areas that I just haven't cleaned in a long time. Just because I don't care. Like, I don't, I don't feel any ownership over this place, you know? And I just, I wanna change that, but.

Skye

would you be willing to maybe not read the whole thing, but would you be willing to share some of your 26 for 26?

Poppy

I don't have 26, I have 22

Skye

Well, that's fine. I think I, in years past, I would leave some blanks open for me to add things throughout the year. So I mean, that makes sense. Are there some that you're like really excited for? Some that you're like, I don't know if this will happen, but I kind of just put it down'cause I hope it will.

Poppy

Um,

River

Dainty little.

Poppy

so these are not in order of priority. They are just like, they just came to me at different times. You know, first one is,, walk 1500 miles. So 1,500 miles for the Conqueror challenge. That's about four miles a day, um, to stay on track because, uh, have we, we've talked about the Conqueror Challenge on this podcast, right?

Skye

I don't know.

Poppy

Maybe

River

I don't, it's likely, but I don't remember.

Poppy

a couple years ago, sky and I were getting tacos and she mentioned that she had signed up for this challenge. Um. Where basically, like you're supposed to walk a certain amount in a certain amount of time, and it's really cool. They're like themed challenges with checkpoints

Skye

to thank to, to bring up Macy and Waba. She was the one, she was the reason how I found out about it because she was doing the Lord of the Rings one.

Poppy

yeah.

Skye

that sounded so cool. And then I looked it up and the Lord of the Rings one was a bit too long and felt like a huge commitment for the first time doing it. So I did a shorter one and I've done several short ones. Please continue your story, but yeah,

Poppy

Yeah. So I, I was inspired, um, with when Skye told me that she had started doing it, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna, this was 20, 23

Skye

something like that.'cause we were already Fitbit friends where we would do like those little challenges or whatever, like in Fitbit,

Poppy

And I was living in the city that we both lived in together, and I signed up immediately and did the Appalachian Trail Challenge,

Skye

like the longest one that they have,

Poppy

it was like 1800 miles. Uh, and it, I finished it this fall and immediately started the next challenge, that I had on like my wishlist, which was the Continental Divide Trail, which I think total is about 2,800 miles, and I'm slotted to finish it. Like two and a half years from now, I think two, two-ish years from now. So, So, in the next year I need to walk 1500 miles to stay on track. Like I've already done like 300 miles or so. Um, so that's, that's the first one on the list. And then honeymoon, that's gonna happen. Summer, beach trip that we talked about. That's gonna happen. Performing in an aerial show. Keep death, coven pod alive.

River

Going well so far.

Poppy

It's all

River

Not too bad. Yeah.

Poppy

Um, number six, gain muscle

River

You are so jacked already, dude. What are you talking about?

Poppy

sope, we'll get into it a little bit next episode, but like I've, I trigger warning for body issues. I've had body issues my entire, I think like probably since I was like 14, 13, or 14 years old, my goal has been to lose fat

River

Mm-hmm.

Poppy

just because I've just been in that toxic

River

because being skinny was the most important thing.

Poppy

Yeah. And so now I'm like, I had this weird AP epiphany recently, I guess that was like, hey. You don't need to make yourself smaller, but health-wise, I do want to become stronger and I wanna like, take care of my bones as I age and whatnot. So my goal for 2025 is not to lose weight, not to get smaller, not to have less fat on my body, but simply to gain muscle.

Skye

How do you calculate that? Just like logistically?

Poppy

Um, so there, I haven't had one done. You can do like a DEXA scan to do that. I don't know if I will. I think

Skye

the full body, like the ratio, like the muscle to fat ratio thing?

Poppy

I have a scale, that I have a smart scale that kind of tells you it's not super accurate, but I feel like it'll kind of give me the

River

a rough idea.

Poppy

Um, but just visually, I feel like I'll be able to tell and like if I'm getting stronger too, that's really all that I want, you know, because for such a long time I've been compromising physical performance and strength and whatnot for aesthetic goals, which I'm done doing. You know, I'm turning 30 this year.

River

Period. You guys are gonna be 30

Skye

had the wedding. The wedding, you looked great for the wedding photos, et cetera, et cetera, whatever.

Poppy

I'm done trying to shrink myself. I just wanna, I wanna, I want to do it for me, not for how people perceive me, you know? Um, and yes, I am already jacked. Thank you very much. But as we

River

you could be more jacked.

Poppy

as we age, we continue to lose bone mass and muscle mass. And like the number one predictor of health going into like your fifties and sixties is the amount of muscle mass that you have. So I wanna, I wanna, yeah. Blah.

Skye

for Afab and like women,

River

Yeah.

Skye

get older, like, like

River

it, that

Skye

gets so, so weak. Like, have you seen My mother has like stick legs

River

Mm-hmm.

Skye

and no ass.

Poppy

It's, it's one of those, it's like if you fall and break your pelvis

Skye

what I'm saying,

Poppy

the chances that you will die within a year skyrocket for like 70% or

Skye

so worried for because she lives alone and it, she lives in Scotland and we were talking about, I was telling her about how we had snow recently in that big winter storm or whatever that came by, and

River

And I fell on the sidewalk twice as a healthy 30-year-old.

Skye

and I was thinking about my

River

is still a little bit fucked up.

Skye

and how Scotland obviously naturally, historically canonically a cold environment. She lives alone. She doesn't drive. She walks everywhere. If she falls and fucking breaks her hip,

Poppy

Yeah,

Skye

she's lit. I, my mom probably weighs, well, I don't know, she's got like fat on her, but it's like, like she's small. She's a petite woman with very fragile bones. She's not getting the nutrients she needs at all. She eats like a little bird.

Poppy

But yeah, just I, that, that's what I want to avoid. I'm so glad to hear that. I know it's been up and down., But that's what I want, what I want to avoid personally. I wanna be able to still, like, walk long distances when I'm in my seventies and like pick things, like carry my own groceries and shit, you know. Um, number seven, I wanna keep up my yoga practice. And I practiced about a hundred times this past year, so I would like to also

Skye

that's like every other day. That's awesome

Poppy

It's like every three days.'cause there were, there were time, like there were stents where I didn't do anything. Yeah. But yeah, no, yeah, it is good. It is great, but I don't wanna backslide and not, you know, um, because it's become like a really central part of my life, not

Skye

you count at home practices too, or do you only count the, okay.

Poppy

yeah. No, and sometimes I, depending on how I feel during the class, I don't count. The classes because, I dunno if I've said this on the pod or not yet, but the studio that I currently go to because of the community that I live in, is not quote, real yoga, if that makes sense. There's no spiritual aspect.

River

the physical poses

Poppy

about pushing yourself as hard as you can. Like in some class I go to like some weightlifting classes there where there's like loud rap playing and, but if, if I get into that mindful, like flow state, aware of my body, like true asana, I'll count it. If it's literally just a, an exercise class, like the equivalent of like a Zumba class, you know, then no, then I won't count it. Uh, but I do count at home practice because that's mindful.

Skye

Uh, so you're saying like yoga, like the philosophy, yoga, like you want to be doing?

Poppy

in Ana. Yeah. Like mindful movement. Yeah.

Skye

Okay. All right. I do wanna say like, it still does count to get on the mat just for the listeners

Poppy

of course. Yeah.

Skye

like it does still count.

Poppy

It does still count. But for my personal goals, it's the mindfulness part, not necessarily just the, the physical is a gateway. Like for 99% of people in the west, like their introduction to yoga is because they want that physical. Stretching

River

You want the flexibility, the core strengths

Poppy

You wanna look hot in yoga pants? Yeah,

River

Yeah. It's the hot new thing now. It's Pilates, but it used to be

Poppy

yeah, yeah. But yeah, so that, that's a goal that fruits and vegetables eaten enough of those. I just constantly have to be aware of that and force myself to do it. It's been really bad during the holiday season with so many treats and

Skye

like apple pie though? Like, you

Poppy

I will cooked fruit and veg counts. So sometimes listeners add whatever you need as long as you're getting the fruits and the veg. That's what, if you need cheese on your broccoli, that's fine. If you need sugar and cinnamon on your apples and you need to bake'em,

River

The fiber is there, the nutrient is there.

Poppy

So I will, I'll like chop'em up and like put brown sugar and cinnamon on'em and bake'em and just

River

Mm.

Poppy

eat'em up that way. But it's a, it's a constant battle for me. Maybe one day it'll be easy,

Skye

you can't just buy like a bunch of bananas

Poppy

we always have bananas here.

River

Mm-hmm.

Skye

I was gonna say, you don't just grab a banana every day.

Poppy

sometimes biting into a, like biting into a banana for me is a, is a battle I have to force myself to do it,

Skye

Do not like bananas.

Poppy

No.

Skye

Well, if you don't like them, don't eat them. Girl.

Poppy

Well, I chop them up, I cut'em up, and I put'em in the freezer, and then I will blend them with chocolate protein powder and milk, and I'll drink'em instead of eating. Like, you just gotta find ways to work around it so that you're still consuming it in a way that is not going to make you

River

if you're not like a raw fruit person.

Poppy

Yeah.

River

I, could peel, I got a bag of clementines in my kitchen that I'll just, I'll peel'em and

Poppy

I can't do citrus. I've never, I've never eaten an orange.

River

I used

Poppy

I've never swallowed an

River

fruits. I,

Skye

Then how do you know you don't like it?

Poppy

I don't know, maybe I need to, I need to try more things. It's,

Skye

She is five years old

River

Yeah. I will say for me, orange is too big. I don't like how big they are, but Clementines, I can just pop a piece in real easy.

Poppy

Strawberries are very hit or miss. All berries are hit or miss. I have to be like in the exact right mood and they

River

you get a bad berry in the batch and it ruins the

Poppy

if it's too soft or if it's hard and not all the way ripe and you can taste the green,

River

Mm-hmm.

Poppy

throw it all

Skye

so what would you say is your favorite fruit?

Poppy

I, uh, pears.

Skye

Ooh, what kind of pear?

Poppy

I love a Bartlett. I also love a Bosque.

Skye

Mm, the green pear.

Poppy

Yeah. And they gotta be nice and ripe and in the fridge, and then you take'em out and you cut'em up and

Skye

I love a red pear myself.

Poppy

I also do like a red, like a nice Asian pair.

Skye

has to be very ripe, very juicy, very sweet and cold. I agree. Soft. It can't be hard. A hard pear is not worth my time.

Poppy

Mm-hmm.

Skye

I

Poppy

apples and carrots and cucumbers.

Skye

I would say cantaloupe is probably my favorite fruit if I had to pick one. But it's gotta be a

Poppy

It's again, it's so hit or miss. Yeah.

Skye

gotta be a good ripe cantaloupe.

Poppy

and I'm just like, I can't eat this. Like, a bunch of bites of it, you know? Like

Skye

that's more, that's more honeydew.

Poppy

Um, not to me, to me cantaloupe has like that meaty, like, like fleshy quality to

River

Yeah, it, does. And that's what I like about it.

Skye

Okay.

Poppy

I'm just, I'm just very picky. I don't know. I just have, I just have like very strong aversions and I feel like I'm gonna die if I bite into certain things, so I don't,

Skye

oh, what's number eight?

Poppy

but trying new things has been, has been good. Um, number, oh, that was number eight, number nine, regular meditation, which is something I've also gotten pretty good at this year.

Skye

What's the definition of regular?

Poppy

well currently I meditate like four to five times a week, and I feel like that's pretty good. So I would be happy with that. It doesn't have to be literally every single day, but more often than not.

River

Mm-hmm.

Poppy

Um, number 10, haunted location, coven trip.

River

I can't

Skye

is already

River

already on the list.

Skye

she even fucking asked us if we wanted to do it, she already had it on the list.

River

Uh, because she knew we'd say yes.

Skye

it wasn't a question. She was like, we're doing this.

River

No, she was like, just so you guys know, early springtime. We're going on a trip.

Poppy

uh, number nine is, uh, or sorry, number 11 is start running again, which we already touched on. Uh, read 52 books, which is always on my list every year. And if I don't get to 52, I'm not like disappointed. It's just a nice goal to have, to make sure that I'm always reading and I don't like, you know, I don't, just not it.

River

You don't

Skye

a week I feel like is a good, a good

Poppy

Yeah. It's about, it's about one a week. Yeah. And I always have a nonfiction one going because I try to read like 10 pages or so before bed. So those usually take me a lot longer than a week to finish,

Skye

Did you start that when there was that, what's it called? The what? What is that challenge where you like. Don't drink alcohol and you work. You go work

Poppy

30. Yeah. I think I did. No, not whole 30. It's, um, 75 hard I think.

Skye

hard, did you start that from 75?

Poppy

I did. I did. Yeah. But I, I took it because I think it's like 20 pages or something for 75 Hard, but I just, I'm like, 10 pages is enough. Like it's enough to get through one chapter,

Skye

Yeah.

Poppy

whatever, like 10 to 20 pages or a chapter

Skye

I would, I would never attempt 75 hard.

River

I would die on day three

Poppy

I, I did, I made it like halfway through and then, uh, my, the thing was my like diet plan was too strict, so there was no way that I was gonna make it 75 days

Skye

That's just too long. Like 30 days is already like a really significant

River

You want me to do two

Poppy

and I, I did do whole 30 and that was really, really hard.

Skye

Even like dry January, like that's really hard.

River

Yeah.

Poppy

Uh, which is actually on my list. Dry month one, dry month two. I wanna do two dry months this year because next year I'm going to be going completely sober to prepare my body for pregnancy.

River

Oh, you heard it here first listeners?

Poppy

27. Yeah.'cause I,'cause you're really supposed to be like nine months to a year, like without any substances just to make sure you're Yeah.

Skye

That's good. I'm, I'm glad there are people like you who actually like, plan properly and like, think and consider.

River

yourself up for

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

That's awesome.

Poppy

uh. Anything I can do to prevent, like, gestational diabetes or,

River

Yeah.

Poppy

or not that, like, not saying that that's any, any mother's fault at all if they have a hard pregnancy. I just wanna do like the most that I can to make it as easy as possible. And also like make sure that the, the,

River

The baby's viable.

Skye

Yeah. You just wanna do the best you can for your little baby.

Poppy

the women in my family have a really, like strong, uh, his like history, I guess, of like miscarriages and whatnot, which I know a lot of families do, but it's like, it's hard in my family, so I wanna just try to avoid that, But anyway, uh, next hashtags save money.'cause I lost so

Skye

just save money, but hashtag save money.

Poppy

I lost so much this year'cause I was planning a fucking wedding and now I'm like, okay, now I can

Skye

The savings has been depleted.

Poppy

Yeah. Not, I mean, it hasn't been like depleted, but I did not put much away last year because it was redirected.

Skye

Okay. She's affluent. Okay. She's doing okay.

River

She's a big girl job, she said.

Skye

I've got my Roth IRA.

Poppy

Uh, decrease screen time.

River

mm-hmm.

Skye

What does that mean or look like and how is that measurable?

Poppy

so recently I've started working it into my monthly challenges. Kind of like we were talking about earlier, um,

Skye

Is there a certain hour limit that you're like looking

Poppy

Yes. So my target is under three hours.

Skye

that's low?

Poppy

Yeah.

River

Wow.

Skye

A lot of people are at least eight hours a day.

River

A lot of people are in the double digits. A

Poppy

double digits.

River

A lot of people are clocking in at like 10 and 12 hours.

Poppy

feel

Skye

is very low. Let me, I'll, I'll look, I'll, I'll tell you what I was at just yesterday, and I'm not on my phone a

River

pull up my screen time right

Poppy

on my point system, it's um, like full credit is three, like under three hours. Partial credit is four to six. And if I go over six then it's like bad girl. Yeah.

River

right? What's my screen time?

Poppy

You just look at like average for the week or

Skye

You can see day or

River

Yeah, there's like a screen time. Um, today. Four and a half hours.

Skye

Today, two hours and 40 minutes

Poppy

I've got one hour, one and a half hours today,

River

My highest last week. My highest last week. 12 and a half hours.

Poppy

Damn dog. I don't think I've

River

Yeah. But that's also because I will play YouTube videos on my phone and like do other shit and I'm not actively Yeah.

Poppy

if I just have Spotify open, then it

River

Yeah. it doesn't count.'cause my screen's not unlocked.

Skye

I don't know how to see by the

River

Yeah. I clocked in uh, eight hours and 14 minutes on YouTube last Monday. YouTube

Poppy

that's, that doesn't count as much if you just have it like playing in the background.

River

no, but it still doesn't make me feel good'cause I'm like, I could be sitting in silence. I could be listening to like an album or something.

Poppy

anyway, dry month one, dry month two, we discussed that more tarot readings, which is memorable just because I record all of them, obviously. Um, and this past year I've really just lapsed into only doing the monthlies and only doing my full moon, new moon ones. Like, very rarely have I done regular mind, body, spirit readings or just like,

Skye

Spur of the moment, daily

Poppy

yeah. And I know it's, it's one of those things where it's like. I've kind of made the excuse that, oh, I don't have anything specific to ask, so I'm not gonna do a reading. But those regular mind, body, spirit check-ins are so valuable. Like whether or not you have something specific to ask, it's

Skye

a good amount of time where I was doing daily readings almost every single day for a long time.

Poppy

Yeah.

Skye

Bring that back.

Poppy

And then I have the complete completion of a creative project. And then finally make apartment homey.

River

Mm-hmm.

Skye

Well, that was a great list, poppy. Um, how much did you, um, check off from 2025? Did you get most of, I have no doubt that you, you'll probably get most of it done for 2026 too, but

Poppy

I did a lot. Uh, there were some things where I definitely did not reach my goal. Um, I don't think I had 25 last year. 1, 2, 3.

Skye

do you feel that it, you didn't reach it because,

Poppy

24?

Skye

because you, um, had too high expectation or just like things came up during the year that made it not possible or?

Poppy

Um, kind of both, I guess. I don't know. Okay. So number one was exercise consistently, which I do, I do, uh, at least two yoga classes a week. I do three aerial classes and then like all of my extra, like daily walks and gym stuff, finish the conqueror challenge. I did that, uh, keep up with my step blanket. So I was doing a thing last year where every day I knit a row, um, depending, and like the color was dependent on the amount of steps I got for that day, you know, and I kept up with that through June. And then the blanket got so big that it was, it was like impractical to keep knitting it. So I stopped. Uh, and now I just have this big, like half finished ugly blanket that's like a

Skye

You are like that girl that did the poop blanket.

Poppy

That was where I got the inspiration from. Yeah. And you can see throughout the, it's crazy because I started, obviously I started in January and my color system was like, if I got under 5,000 steps, it was black, 5,000 to 10,000. It was gray and then 10,000 above, um, depending on the month, it was like a different color. And you can see during the colder months it was just like all black and gray. And then once the sun came back, it was just like color, color, color, uh, what is that again? Trigger warning for body image. I had get down to 22% body fat, which I did. I'm at 21 now. Um, attend on a hottest purpose. We did not go to, I thought that, like back in January, I thought we were gonna go, so I put that down. Uh, instead we went to Skunk of Palooza, which could not have been foreseen, unforeseen.

River

Yeah,

Poppy

And I'm, I'm happy

River

for us.

Poppy

Uh, consume less caffeine? No. Just, no. Uh, participate in an aerial performance. Yes, I did that. Um, dry month one and two. I tried to do last year two, no to both. Uh, just because I forgot about it. I think so I feel like if I had been actively trying, I would've gotten it, but.

Skye

I will say in years past, you have successfully done dry January and then have also done a second dry month as well. For the listeners, it, there's a reason why Poppy has this on her list. She has successfully done it in the past.

Poppy

Yes. I'm not like

River

It's about will. It's not about addiction,

Poppy

Although I do have a family history of alcoholism and I'm, I'm definitely riding that line. I'm riding that line. Um, read 52 books obviously every single year. Um, improve at Practicing Yoga. Difficult to measure, but in my harder of parts, I know that I have improved. Um, meditate three times a week. Yes. Cut back on unnecessary spending. I put kind of, because I did get married and a lot of the spending I did was not necessary.

Skye

Like the little middle Dinos that was on the table for the dinner that were

River

Like the Bigfoot statue cut out.

Poppy

I got a bunch of little, uh, brass dinosaurs that we put everywhere in

Skye

It was my job to put them out and I, it

Poppy

they were very cute.

Skye

it was my honor. The velociraptors did not stand up very well. I tried to make sure that they were leaning against something.'cause their big old Tootsie was like sticking up. I,

Poppy

Um, save money again, no wedding. I mean, I did save money, but like, obviously not. As much as I wanted to meet my nephew, I did? that. I did. He's so cute and bald and junky. And he's turning, he's, he's like eight months or so now, and my niece is turning, uh, two this month. Get, get married? Yes. Improve tarot practice. Kind of, because I feel like I have a better eye for like knowing what cards mean this year, you know? But at the same time, I didn't read as much as I wanted to. So Hit or miss.

Skye

But I feel like our, um, tarot episodes, I

Poppy

yeah, that's helped do like a deep dive. Yeah. So that's why I said kind of, kind of, um, keep in touch with, uh, friends that I don't live near.

Skye

Yes.

Poppy

Yes. Uh, decreased screen time. No. Play more video games. Yes. Um, no buy week. I wanted to do a week where I don't buy any, like I don't spend any money other than like reoccurring stuff that's already like on auto. Um,

Skye

my brain immediately went to not being bisexual for a week. No. Bi

Poppy

fight the urges.

River

not gonna be attracted to

Poppy

Don't look at any

Skye

I'm gonna be hetero for one week.

Poppy

Yeah. Uh, no, but it was just like not spending money for a straight week, once every quarter. And I did it twice, um, not four times. And then lastly, eat more fruits and vegetables. And I said kind of, because I went through peaks and valleys there last year.

Skye

job.

Poppy

Yeah. Thanks. I'm happy with how it went. You know, I'm not like, oh fuck, I like fucked up. This past year I didn't do anything.

Skye

No. This past year was, was it, was I,

Poppy

yeah, it was pretty, I, I made, I made lots of memories for sure. I learned.

Skye

Yep.

River

I lived, I laughed. I loved

Skye

Yeah. I was certainly physically, mentally, spiritually, emotionally, in a very different place. January of 2025 versus

Poppy

Yes. There was growth. I

Skye

Yes. I was physically living in a different environment. I had a different vehicle, I had a different job. I had different chemical, I had a different diet. I, I was still vaping,

Poppy

Were you medicated yet

Skye

I was not medicated yet,

Poppy

No. Yeah. You, I mean, that's a huge change.

Skye

yeah. Completely forgot about that. Got medicated this year.

River

It's just always been there.

Poppy

Listeners, it's worth it.

River

Yeah. Uh, I think that is also a goal for me for 2026 is like get back on medication, but I don't have health

Poppy

Which is difficult. Yeah. I mean, maybe does your potential new employer

River

I don't think they have a health insurance plan.'cause it's like a small business Yeah. So seeing a, maybe getting a PCP, that's a goal for 2026.

Poppy

What was your question, sky? I feel like you had a bigger question that we were responding to.

Skye

You know, I don't know.

River

Dust in the wind at this point. This is our second recording of the

Poppy

Oh, okay. Are we, are we ready? Are we good? Are we

Skye

I'm satisfied.

River

I'm satisfied.

Skye

We'll see what happens in the year. You guys will be along for the ride if if you continue to listen, which I hope you do.

Poppy

I hope you do. Thank you for listening this far. If you actually got through this unhinged,

River

If you just like to hear us yap. About our kidney stones and our like financial goals.

Skye

this was your first episode, listening to us, um,

Poppy

Go listen to some other ones.

River

Yeah, we've got better ones. We've got more entertaining

Skye

no. I feel like

River

locations is really

Skye

don't let this, don't, don't expect this for the rest of the year. I will say, um, because we, we actually very rarely do a real chatty episode like this. Most of our episodes are actually fairly structured, um, and we, and we put a lot of time into actually doing, um, research and planning out exactly what we're gonna say and, uh, thinking really deeply about what we wanna talk about. And we only pick topics that we deeply care about and find relevant to each of us.

Poppy

for the most part.

Skye

let, let, me, let me, let me sell them, let, let me hook'em in, and then once they're here, we can give them our bullshit.

River

like you've already

Poppy

in Portland and New York are like, you, guys are

River

Our, our international listeners,

Poppy

Sweden, we see you. Hey Portland. We see you New York. We see you South Carolina. We

River

Thanks.

Skye

Anyway, uh, we love you guys no matter where you're from. Thanks for listening to us ramble all the time, but especially today, in the new year, happy new Year.

Poppy

We've been a podcast for like a year and a half at this point, and uh, we appreciate when you, when you click that download button,

Skye

yeah. When you, when you rate and review

Poppy

we especially like when you rate and review. Yeah.

Skye

and, and when you reach out to us, which still no one has, so I

Poppy

nobody has, it's been a year and a half.

River

I feel like, I feel like now they're like, I can't be the first. That's too much pressure.

Skye

shy

River

I,

Poppy

If you'd like to tell us about your New Year's resolutions, what you got planned for 2026, what you did in 2025, uh, what you'd like to see from us in this new year. You can reach out to us at death coven pod@gmail.com or check us out on Instagram. I'm sure with Skye, with all of her creative projects this year we'll be posting more art. I'll just put that out there right now. Uh, you can find us there at Death Coven Pod. And with that I don't have anything else to say so by the power of three

Skye

and so it is

River

And so it is.

Poppy

so it is

Skye

Maple say, and so it is.

River

She speaks in perfect human English only once and never again.

Poppy

Uh, happy 2026.