Episode 41: Phony Psychic Sylvia Browne

Welcome back dear listeners! Buckle up because River is On One for this installment of Death Coven. The focus of todays episode is the controversial "psychic medium" Sylvia Browne and her many egregious claims. If you get very upset about people taking blatant advantage of others (same) proceed with caution, because Sylvia was a terrible person. RIP!

*IF YOU'D LIKE TO SKIP THE HYPOTHETICAL GO TO 18:54*

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sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 0:17

Oh, the big stink. I

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 0:19

pigs, it's, there's something worse than cholera. There's something stinkier than cholera and they don't even know it yet.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 0:28

okay. Just talking about it is bringing me back to that feverish pitch,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 0:33

Bringing back the, and that's, and I need that kind

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 0:35

yeah. We're, we're going, we're, we're,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 0:37

be with me.'cause I'm gonna get really pissed off during the course of this recording.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 0:42

oh, no.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 0:44

Maybe you need a

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 0:45

a subject that makes me angry.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 0:47

A cornelian is gonna ramp you up

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 0:48

go crazy. I'm gonna go too crazy if I have a cornelian.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 0:52

you buzzing and spinning.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 0:54

I'm gonna get so mad at somebody that's already dead and I'm gonna have no outlet for it.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:00

man. I'm sure there's something in there that's usable for an intro.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:04

I can make it work in post, I'll splice something together. It's just gonna be the big stink, and then it goes right into the hypothetical, like a big fart noise.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:17

Oh man. This episode is also about poop.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:20

It's about a big piece of shit, for sure.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:24

I'm so excited. hello and welcome to death, Kevin. This is a podcast by a death coven. We're all witches and we're talking about something today, sky, and I have no idea what the topic is because this one will be led by our beloved river.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:42

Hold your plot, please. I'm not a hero. Ladies. Ladies, please.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:49

Yeah. So my name is Poppy.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:53

I'm Sky I,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:55

And I am river, and I'm gonna be holding you hostage for the next amount of minutes so that I can talk about something that I

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 2:03

is it bitch ex-wife lore? Are we talking about your bitch? Ex-wife?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 2:08

Well, I could workshop this into the lore. It would be crazy, but I could,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 2:14

I believe in you. I, I believe you could do anything. You set your little brain to

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 2:18

The person in particular I'm gonna be focusing on has already WA was already past tense, married four times, so it wouldn't be that hard to insert. A fifth is all I'll say.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 2:30

just your mother. I don't know. I don't know how many times she's

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 2:32

She was only married twice. Well, hold on. Married, thrice, divorced twice. Remarried my father.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 2:42

four times.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 2:44

No, it was just the three. She got married, divorced, married. My dad. Divorced. My dad remarried. My dad, I have a very complicated history listeners, that's a real lure for you.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 2:54

So would you like to reveal now or do you have like a little lead up intro

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 2:58

I have a little preamble that will reveal itself.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 3:03

Alright, well, before we get started. I have a little hypothetical game for us to play. Listeners, if this is your first time, welcome. We are so excited to have you here. but every episode at the beginning of the episode, I give the group a little hypothetical situation or question or game and we just talk about what we would do, what we think, et cetera, et cetera, to kinda lube up the brain. so today I have some dice with me.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 3:36

What are you gonna do?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 3:38

You, uh, you trot down. To get your mail one beautiful morning, and you see that you have a package waiting for you. How exciting. I'm always excited when I see a package

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 3:50

don't remember ordering anything

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 3:52

No, you wouldn't. You don't remember ordering anything. Um, there's also a letter attached to the package. Um, so I have three different parts about this, this package that's been sent to you that we're going to roll for as we go through this hypothetical. originally I had a very, like, simplified version of this, but then I realized I already knew exactly what you guys would choose. Uh, so I'm not giving you,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 4:21

Damn. She knows us too well.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 4:23

not giving you a choice. Yeah. So we're all gonna have three different packages that we have to, um, open up and assess, all right, what does the package look like? Uh, who would like to go first, sky or river? And then I'll take whatever's left over. Okay.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 4:39

Sky will go

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 4:40

Sky's package

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 4:42

I

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 4:43

looks like it's the size of a ring box and it's tightly wrapped in bubble wrap. Rivers. Looks like a bicycle wrapped in bright purple wrapping paper and it has this huge sparkly bow on it.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 5:01

Merry Christmas to

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 5:02

Merry Christmas to you.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 5:03

Wow. We're recording this on the 21st of December, by

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 5:06

Yeah. Happy Yue to us, I guess. I think, uh, for the crew that's listening right now, it's close to in bulk

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 5:15

February? Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 5:18

like just passed in bulk or like it's coming

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 5:21

Mm-hmm.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 5:22

and then mine, Poppy's is a wet shoebox that is duct taped. Closed. Yeah, it's wet.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 5:28

Oh,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 5:29

like soggy.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 5:31

Yeah, it's soggy. It's it's cardboard. The, the cardboard's kind of wet,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 5:34

I don't know if it had been like sitting in the wet for a

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 5:37

No, it came like that. That was a choice

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 5:39

Ew. Okay.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 5:41

oh. Like it's wet from the inside.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 5:44

perhaps. We don't know. so there's a letter that comes along with each of these packages. What does the letter say? Uh, so all of the letters, they're typewritten, but somehow they also have like modern emojis in there. Um,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 6:05

That's stupid.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 6:06

and so when you open it up, uh, let's see. Sky your letter says, was feeling cute. Might delete salsa dancer emoji eyes, looking to the side, anatomical heart emoji. River rivers says. Homemade with indifference just for you. Heart wink shrug

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 6:32

Yeah, that tracks, I feel like I've gotten that kind of message

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 6:37

with your big, like purple bicycle shaped gift.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 6:41

homemade, but I didn't really

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 6:42

I didn't really give it, I don't even care about this gift.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 6:45

I don't even fucking care if you like it or not. Honestly,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 6:47

Uh, which means mine is, I did a thing winky, or sorry,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 6:53

these are so chewy. Millennial core.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 6:56

wacky face, fireworks, and then all of the different colored hearts at the end.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 7:01

I did a thing. This box is

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 7:02

Soggy box. Ugh.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 7:05

And then you see at the bottom. Uh, who is this letter from? It's signed by the Wizard.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 7:12

fuck.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 7:13

dude.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 7:14

How did he find my address?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 7:16

He know. He knows where you live. He knows everything. I,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 7:18

He's known for a while.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 7:21

Listeners, the wizard. Lord is crazy. If this is

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 7:23

The wizard will

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 7:24

a recurring character in the hypothetical. He has cursed us many

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 7:29

He's the worst than my bitch, ex-wife.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 7:31

is your bitch ex-wife. Maybe that's the real lore. now it's time to open up these packages. so inside all of these, when you, when you start to open up the package, it's gonna kind of like, poof. so the, what the package looks like on the outside doesn't necessarily reflect what's on the inside. That's just your, your first. Yeah. So you like start opening up the package and it poofs and then you, you have this object in your hands. And for all of these, if you try to get rid of it, it's just gonna show back up in your home the next day no matter what you do. Alright. Sky, your package contains a talking cat with the personality of Steven Segal.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 8:18

Oh

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 8:19

he

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 8:19

that sucks.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 8:21

talking, asking you, whining and bitching, for you to help him find his mother. He really wants you to find his mother. Uh, so if you kick him, if you try to give him away, he's just gonna show back up at your house and he's gonna keep being like, sky,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 8:38

My mommy.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 8:42

in Steven

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 8:43

in Steven Segal

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 8:44

Yeah. And he has like a ponytail and everything. Kind of like

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 8:47

yeah, he's wearing those stupid sunglasses and like making like racist martial arts movies.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 8:52

Okay, river, your package contains, oh, that was a little Maple. Meep River's package contains a calendar with the days blacked out with, with some days blacked out. intermittently. The photos of each month of the calendar are all boudoir shots of the wizard.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 9:16

Ooh,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 9:17

Different, different positions.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 9:19

Dang it. It was really exciting until it was the wizard. Well, maybe he's hot.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 9:24

he's, he, you know his, some of them, he's very

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 9:28

best silk

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 9:29

He's got like the pasties on. Yeah, he's in his little robe. He's got the wizard hat on in all of them.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 9:35

I'm picturing like the, the paternity, like milk bath, like with the flowers in for one

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 9:41

gosh. Yeah. He's pregnant. Turning to the side, just

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 9:45

he just has a beer gut, but it's poking out of the bath.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 9:49

In one of them, he's in a field of sunflowers, just like looking over his shoulder ishly. Um, but there's a second part of this gift as well. It also comes with a digital clock that is counting down the seconds to the first blackout date.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 10:06

I hate this. I would rather have the Steven Segal cat if I'm baby. This feels a very cryptic and ominous and threatening,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 10:13

Poppy's Gift is a book on the cover of the book. It's the wizard riding a motorcycle down a desert highway. The wind is blowing through his hair,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 10:22

but his hat stays on.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 10:24

hat's.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 10:24

to his head.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 10:26

He's got like a motorcycle. He's got a motorcycle helmet, and then the hat on top of the helmet. Uh, and so the question for me is, do you open it? I think yes, obviously I, I would open the book, um, and I see pretty quickly it's my entire life story from my conception. And as I flipped through, I realized that the story goes past what I've experienced up until this moment.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 10:48

These gifts are generally very

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 10:50

Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 10:52

You start reading about you reading the book and you're like, oh, no.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 10:55

Oh

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 10:55

do we think that he really was like, they're gonna love this.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 10:59

I think he's so fucked up and sick and twisted that he's like, I put so much thought into these. They're gonna come in

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:06

Except for yours. That was homemade with indifference

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 11:09

Yeah. He said, I actually don't care about the scary

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:12

his entire, like, he did this whole photo shoot and he's like, I don't even

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 11:16

I think he hates me the most out of all three of us. I think specifically, he hates me the most.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 11:21

I think my gift is the only one that's like, to him, truly a gift.'cause that has nothing to do with the wizard. He's like, and I, I have this

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 11:28

He's like, I found this fucked up ugly cat. Do you want

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 11:32

You like cats, right?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:34

Here you

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 11:34

This one talks,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:36

you miss Mal, right? Here you go.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 11:38

Yeah. Here's a replacement that's arguably worse

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 11:42

is So Steven Segal coded.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:44

only he

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 11:45

he had a

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:45

of little ponytail.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 11:47

No, he was balding.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 11:50

I mean, so is Steven Segal, but he still has the

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:52

The like black dyed. Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 11:56

the shoe polish look.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 11:58

So what are you doing? What are you gonna do?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:00

I'm gonna shove these into the nearest closet I can and try to forget about

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:04

Yeah. You're not gonna be

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:05

I'm not getting rid of them,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:07

counting down.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:08

oh fuck no.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:10

Are you gonna try to contact the wizard? Maybe. And

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:13

in what way? How am I supposed I don't have his phone. I just run into him in the grocery store parking

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:18

yeah, we've seen him at Walmart. We've seen him in the grocery store.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:22

he finds me. I don't find

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:24

sometimes you just bump into him on the street.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 12:27

I guess I have to go on a quest to find the mother of this wailing cat.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:33

Steven's

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 12:33

that seems to be how to break my curse

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:37

Yeah, it seems like that there's a resolution.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 12:40

give him back to his mother. Yeah. I just have a feeling his mother's dead.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:45

perhaps

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:47

He's old.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 12:48

Well, he just has the voice of Steven Segal. This cat is its own thing. I, I'm, I'm assuming

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 12:54

his mother's just a human woman.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 12:56

Gave birth to a cat.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 12:59

that would be easier for me than just trying to find some random cat.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 13:02

Stephen Segal, the man is 73 years old.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 13:07

I wanna know who my cat's parents are, you know?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 13:10

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 13:10

Oh, I know. Hermes's mother is named Banana Pudding and she lives in a trailer

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 13:15

oh my God. Good for

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 13:17

That's where he was born. He was born in a trailer park with all his little siblings,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 13:22

no idea about my kitties.'cause they were, I mean, two of the three were found in precarious situations.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 13:30

Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 13:30

Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 13:31

okay. So for my book, I think I'm initially going to probably take the same route as river and just like put it on a bookshelf and try to forget about it.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 13:42

You are so curious though.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 13:44

I'm not going to, I'm just gonna be laying awake at night, like, oh, I need to know. Like,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 13:50

Are you gonna read the whole thing or are

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 13:52

Would you flip to the

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 13:53

to the last half?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 13:54

I think I, I would probably start by like flipping through all of the pages and just looking for keywords, you know, and then

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 14:02

Like terrible accident, like the incident?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 14:07

Well, like what if you were flipping through the back and you keep seeing a certain name of someone like you, you haven't met yet, and you're like, oh my gosh. Like, do I get remarried later in life?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 14:15

Is that my

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 14:16

you know? Yeah. Really?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 14:18

And it's one of those things where it's like, is the book I would wanna know? I think I would pick like a specific page and then make, make some kind of big choice and then come back and see if the page says the same thing and see if my actions are like constantly updating the book. Yeah. Is it predetermined? am I able to, to change the outcome? And if I am, then I would read the book and then I would try to fig

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 14:46

I would read like, what's about to come up and be like, okay, well I'm not gonna do that thing. Like try to,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 14:54

yeah. But if it's like no matter what you do, it's gonna be the same, then it's like whatever choice I make in response to getting the book is the thing that makes the thing happen, you know?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 15:03

And then it's all so, uh, exhausting.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 15:08

finished watching Dark for the second time, so that's kind of where that came from. Such a good show.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 15:13

I never ho of

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 15:15

It's a, it's a German show. There's a bunch of time travel and it's, it's crazy.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 15:20

Michael and I watched

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 15:21

I recommend watch it in German with the subtitles. Please don't watch the dubbed version.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 15:27

Don't watch it though. Just not as good.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 15:29

I think I would also try to reach out to the Wizard and be like, Hey, thank you so much. I mean, it's kind of a Maleficent situation, you know?'cause you don't wanna be like, I hate it

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 15:41

yeah, your gift sucks and it scares me.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 15:45

on her 16th birthday, she will prick her finger on the spindle and fall into a deep sleep until

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 15:52

the Christmas of your 29th year, I'm gonna give you a wet box with a really scary book inside and a cat that has a ponytail.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 16:03

So what do you think is gonna happen on that first blackout Day River?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 16:07

Fuck. If I know

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 16:10

Are, is there like a little part of you that's a little excited? Maybe

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 16:14

there's a part of me that is terrified, there is no

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 16:17

there's no excitement.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 16:19

It's, I especially back in like 2012 when there was that whole like Aztec end of the year calendar, like world's gonna end that terrified the fuck out of me.'cause I was like, what if, what if the world's gonna end? And I spent like two years being terrified of it. There was no

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 16:38

December? Uh, December 28th, 2012.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 16:41

21st, may It was like 1, 2, 2, 1. You.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 16:45

12 21, 12.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 16:47

Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 16:48

movie about like the

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 16:51

yeah. That I never watched.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 16:53

Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 16:53

And I was sweating the entire time.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 16:56

Weird, big catastrophic, like ominous world ending things just like fright. Even like when people bring up like the rapture predictions. I know it's not gonna happen, but I'm still like,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 17:07

what if but what if

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 17:08

that's really scary? What if? Oh my God, you guys, today's the anniversary of the world. Supposed it was supposed to end in 2012. Today's December 21st. I

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 17:17

years ago. Oh, 13 years ago. Yeah.'cause it's still 2025.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 17:22

that's so cute.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 17:24

Adorable.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 17:25

That's so cute that it like rounded into today and it's so cute.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 17:30

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 17:31

But no, I'm gonna do my very best to block it out of my mind and then just like go about my day assuming nothing bad and

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 17:38

What if you have a day that's like really, really like significant or bad or something, and then you like go scrounging in your closet? Look and you look at the calendar.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 17:50

And then I would live in fear of that calendar for the rest of the year.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 17:54

Now, how many blackout dates are there? Is it like once a quarter? There's one, like

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 17:58

I was thinking like maybe like once a month, perhaps like fairly frequent. Uh, and I was thinking like, mm-hmm. It resets every time. Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 18:10

girl, I got the calendar. I don't need the

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 18:12

Well, really the scary clock was for the first, the first one because it really just ramps up the anxiety. so it's not as relevant for the, for the other one unless you forget and you gotta check, check the clock, like,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 18:24

Yeah. oh, no. That clock's getting shoved underneath the

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 18:28

It never runs outta batteries.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 18:29

fine. I don't have to see it. It's in the, it's shoved in the closet in the back corner under all my coats.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 18:34

Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 18:35

It is ticking though, for some reason you

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 18:37

Ugh. It's a digital clock and it ticks just to

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 18:40

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Just to piss you off. Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 18:43

All right. Well, you're welcome. You for your

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 18:45

Thanks. I hate it. Thank you. I hate them. Can't wait to see him whenever I see the wizard

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 18:53

Mm-hmm. Okay. I can close out of this Google doc now because I ain't got nothing.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 18:59

got shit to do.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 19:01

I almost made the cat from the hypothetical Tom Cruise.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 19:05

God, that would be, I would rather Steven Segal

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 19:08

really, I was like, Steve, I feel like Steven Segal's worst just because of the.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 19:11

Having a talking Scientologist cat.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 19:14

I'm saying I don't wanna, I don't want a cat that's gonna keep talking about El Ron Hubbard. I'm sick of El

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 19:23

he actually converts you somehow. It like it works.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 19:27

he'd be like, no, just come in. Come in for that weird thing. You have to hold and that personality test, it's fine. And we're gonna hold you hostage for eight hours. No

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 19:36

Is it the body scan analysis thing that you have to hold?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 19:39

It tells you you're like your something levels, which is basically like how much

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 19:44

how much help you need, how fucked up you are, and how much they have to fix

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 19:48

Yeah. And of course it's rigged,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 19:50

Yeah, of course. You need so much help and you need to give them$10,000 immediately so they can help you.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 19:56

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 19:57

Scientology's crazy. We'll do an episode on it

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:00

oh God. That would have to be like a multiple part series.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:04

it. yep,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 20:06

Oh, nose

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:06

yep.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:07

I'll do it. That river and

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:09

You.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:09

tag team it.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:10

We can do it together.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 20:12

great.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:13

I'm fascinated and terrified of

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 20:15

I want to know about it, but I don't want to do the

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:17

they might file a cease and desist though. They've done that before

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:20

They would come after us. They would come

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 20:23

Not

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:24

and start digging through our

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 20:24

for them to know,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:25

psychotic.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:27

they're constantly scanning like media and whatever, four keywords to identify so they can take it down. Same thing with the, um, church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints or whatever, like the Mormons are also constantly trying to fix their image

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 20:40

They're literally making TV shows about the shit.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:44

and they're not happy about it. They're not happy about the representation,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:47

it's bad pr.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:48

especially the polygamist

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 20:50

bitches in Idaho or whatever, like relax. It's just bitches with Botox in Idaho. Calm

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 20:56

And they're addicted to diet

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 20:58

they're making, they're making the church look. Bad with their premarital

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:02

Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 21:03

and

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:04

We don't need them to make the church look bad,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 21:07

it doesn't matter what religion you're in, there's always going to be premarital sex. Get

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:11

Yeah. Get

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 21:12

Get over it.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 21:13

we, we got, we got bits and we like to put'em together.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:17

it's fun.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 21:18

Teens be horny, calm

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:20

good. Hey, soaking is in a loophole. You're just having sex in a really bad way.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 21:26

Yeah. And you can still get pregnant from doing it.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:30

Yeah, today's episode is not about Scientology or Mormonism.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 21:34

What if it was,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 21:35

all that in?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:36

What if it was, I probably,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 21:39

Oh my God. I thought that that was just us

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 21:42

I might be, I'll do, uh, I'll do a second one. I'll do just in case I have to cut that out. Thank you all for joining me today on a long awaited river. So it's been a minute since we've had just a me episode. I have a little preamble before I reveal the topic of today's episode. So bear with me. This episode has been percolating, unknown to me in my mind for a while. It wasn't the episode I was originally planning on doing, but I realized several days ago, I'm actually ridiculously under prepared for that episode that I was planning on doing. So I had to hard pivot into something a little bit easier for me. So that's why we're doing this today. There has always been and always will be grifters. Since Capitalism and Money was invented, there have always been people waiting in the wings to pounce on the vulnerable and the grieving. And in my opinion, there are very few grifts, more vile and evil than self-proclaimed for pay psychic mediums.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 22:57

Say it. Say

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 22:59

mediums today.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 23:01

Yes.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 23:02

Anyone who boldly and confidently claims to be able to contact a dead loved one is sick beyond help, especially when they are a highly public figure and have countless claims debunked publicly on record.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 23:16

who this is about.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 23:20

Psychic mediums are inherent predators and they will not see the light of heaven, and I'll make sure of that.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 23:27

No.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 23:29

So that's my big spiel and I wanted to keep it more generalized. It's not, I, I narrowed it down, but there, especially now these days, you have so many TV shows and public figures and authors that are psychic mediums and on TikTok and on Instagram, there's people Etsy, which I, I fuck with the Etsy witches. They're not involved in this sometimes, but when it is some Etsy witches that are like, give me$50 and I'll draw a picture of your soulmate. I don't fuck with that. But there's just, there's been a weird resurgence in younger people on TikTok of like being psychic mediums or claiming they have telekinesis and they can move aluminum foil that's tinted if they like push the air with their hand close enough and they're like, see, I'm fucking psychic. You guys don't understand. Which is crazy.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 24:24

gazing thing where they're like, I made the candle flare. I'm like, how long were you sitting there waiting for it to?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 24:30

We can all do things with our mind if we lie, but even like the little more innocuous, like if this tarot reading came onto your feet, It's meant for you? But also like, only take what resonates and leave behind what does it. I'm like, well, that could be anything. That could generally be anything. So while I do believe everyone has inherent intuition and everyone is connected to divine sources beyond their understanding, and you can receive feelings and inklings and intuitive messages for yourself psychics who built an entire, often lucrative career off of guessing about other people's trauma. Are snake oil salesman, and again, they will not see the light of

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 25:17

Yeah. If you're paying your rent with it and you have like a huge

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 25:21

written 50 some books and you founded a psychic university and you have a talk show,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 25:31

If you've been on Oprah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 25:33

If you've been on Oprah or Montel Williams, we'll get into

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 25:36

See, at first I thought you were gonna be talking about Dr. Oz just based on the beginning of your spiel. And then you, you

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 25:42

No, I have some shit to say about Dr. Oz too, but he's not a psychic medium. He's just a different kind of snake oil salesman. So the subject specifically, and I was looking into like Theresa Kaputo, the Long Island medium, and I just wanna touch on her for like a brief moment because there are just some culturally silly things that she's

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 26:04

Her hair gets bigger every time I see her.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 26:07

And I looked up a picture of her in 2025, and this is gonna be a real deep cut for the ones that know she looks like a healthy weight. Gwen Shamblin Laura, and if you don't know who that is, she is a, was she passed away a little while ago in a plane crash? Um, it was like a private plane. The pilot might have been drunk. Anyway, she basically invented a diet plan that was just like evangelical, anorexia, like that was her whole thing. She was very unwell. She weighed maybe 90 pounds soaking wet at the time of her death. And for most of her life, she was very thin. And essentially her whole thing was like, God loves you if you don't eat. You're holier if you don't eat. And her hair

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 26:59

fasting quote unquote.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 27:01

Yeah. I mean, fasting has a place in religious practices for sure, but God doesn't want you to

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 27:07

doing. No. God doesn't want you to starve yourself for no reason because you wanna be

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 27:13

Your body is a temple. Your

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 27:15

And that was all Gwen Shamblin. Laura's ideology was, I gotta be as thin as possible. But Theresa Caputo's hair rivals, Gwen Shamblin Laura's hair these days. It, it's so fucking big now. And she also, there was one bit in her TV show, she started doing like disguise work. She, there's one specific one. It's the only one I know of'cause it's so sick. And that was all I needed to see. She would start doing disguises and like show up to

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 27:50

people knew who she was.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 27:52

'cause people knew who she was,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 27:54

has those glasses with a big nose and a mustache on.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 27:58

brother, let me tell you.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 28:00

Oh.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 28:00

She. Somebody contacts her to come do like a reading for her friends and family, and she does it under the guise of like a jewelry selling party. And she explains away Yeah, literally an like a Tupperware party. But for jewelry, it's so embarrassing and that's not even the worst part. And so she explains the way, like the reality TV cameras that are gonna be at your fucking Tupperware party, and she's like, oh, they're like shooting a show about jewelry parties. It's so normal. And my friend Joey, wink, wink, Theresa Caputo, is gonna show up later, and he, Theresa Caputo is addressed as just a little man. She, she has a fake mustache on and a little blonde Justin Bieber wig on. She looks like a waiter. She looks like she's showing up to this party to like hand out hor d'oeuvres. And that's what I thought she was until I watched the full nine minute clip on YouTube of it. But she just shows up to this party and she's like, ah, I'm Joey. And she just starts saying the weirdest

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 29:09

Bro, please drop the link in the show

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 29:11

like, I'm going to, because it's so embarrassing. I had to watch it on like 1.5 speed just to get through it. It's so cringe to watch. And she's like in the party and everyone's like giving her weird looks'cause she's like, ah, my girl just left me. Ah, I'm from New York. I'm so lonely. Not from me. I can't buy any jewelry. I got no woman. It's so embarrassing. And then it's giving terrible incel. Yeah. And then she's like, I bet you all thought I was Joey. I'm actually Theresa Caputo the Long Island medium. And everyone goes, whoa, I had no idea. I thought you were a man

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 29:52

They're like, who's that?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 29:55

Who the fuck is? And everyone in like the talking head interviews was like, yeah, I thought Joey was a fucking weirdo. He was a really creepy until it was revealed he was Theresa Caputo. I just thought he was some fucking weirdo.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 30:07

what's the point of the discu? Like why? What's the.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 30:10

It makes for good tv. That's literally all it is. It makes for good tv'cause it's so

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 30:16

Like if you're gonna reveal before you do the reading, then

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 30:23

Yeah,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 30:24

that's so

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 30:24

you might as well just show up as Theresa Caputo. But she was like, and what if I tricked everyone? What if I had a really obvious fake mustache and I tricked everyone. Anyway, you can watch that. We'll put the link in the show notes. It's very silly, but she's not our focus for

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 30:44

Mm-hmm.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 30:45

I, a little while ago, I was given a book by an old coworker of mine, and maybe you guys remember I'd posted in the Death Coven group chat and I, with this coworker, I had let her borrow, sorry, garnets screaming in the background. I don't know if you can hear that.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 31:03

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 31:03

going sicko mode. anyway, and I had given this coworker a book that I had. Written by a mortician about death, cultures that are practiced or death traditions that are practiced in other cultures around the world. And it's a beautiful book. I'll drop the link to the book. She's written other books. She's such a, a sweetie pie from what I can tell. Great mortician, very informative. She has a YouTube channel, but I lent this book to my coworker years ago and then she left the place I work. She recently came back, returned my book to me and another book, uh, life on the Other Side by Sylvia Brown. And I didn't know a whole heck of a lot about Sylvia Brown before receiving this book. I had heard the name and sort of knew she was like a, a self-proclaimed psychic medium. I didn't know how egregious her crimes were.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 32:00

her hair is much smaller.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 32:01

Her hair is much smaller. There's one picture that she had, or that's of her on Google Images. She genuinely looks like a clown. It looks like somebody did like funeral makeup on her. It's crazy. So today we're gonna be talking about the many crimes of Sylvia Brown self-proclaimed psychic medium, author of, I guess, 50 some books. The number, the hard number is hard to find on Google, at least 40 to 50 books. How are we feeling? Do we have any questions or preconceived knowledge of Sylvia

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 32:34

incredibly, I think that my mother. Has some of her books. I

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 32:39

she would, unfortunately, she would be,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 32:43

but that's, I don't know anything about her past the, I remember like books of hers on our

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 32:51

Yeah, she's written a lot of books. A lot of her books are co-written. She's been on Oprah. She's been on Montel Williams. She's been on Larry King Live. She is a proficient in media.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 33:06

Question. Who is that guy? Is she like, who was that guy who used to have that TV show where he'd have an audience and he'd be like, I'm getting the letter H. Who here is had somebody,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 33:16

truly be anyone. It really, I don't

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 33:20

He was like a psychic medium. He um, it was a man

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 33:24

yeah, like a brunette, like kind of skinny. I

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 33:28

Brunette

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 33:29

from like the late nineties early aughts. Like he had TV show.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 33:34

And it's always a car accident,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 33:35

Brown? Perhaps, yeah. Cold readings and hot readings are often employed by psychic mediums because it's uh, for cold readings, you're literally just like working with statistics and educated guesses where you're like, oh, if you're trying to read somebody who was born in like, I don't know, the nineties, and you're like, hoping they have a dead parent.'cause a lot of us do now, they're like, I'm sensing, I'm sensing a man who died and his name starts with a letter. H or G.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 34:11

heart attack or cancer. Or, or, or, or, yeah,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 34:15

just like normal, average, common things people die of. And like common letters, people's names started with in like the sixties and seventies. So it's not anything spectacular. It's not anything fancy. It's not anything psychic. They just, uh, are guessing and lying. So,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 34:35

woman's not doing things like that.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 34:38

no, she is, she's doing exactly that, but she's doing them on such a scale that I'm like, wow, you are in hell right now. You are in hell.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 34:48

Can't wait to hear about it. But the coworker, wait, I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but your co, who gave you that

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 34:54

I don't know if she read it. I don't know if she sincerely believes it. I haven't talked to her about it,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 35:01

I would be, I would be doing little check-ins to a little temperature check just to be like, are you actually kind of crazy bitch? Like,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 35:08

she is, but she also, she's very spiritual, but she is also like more levelheaded where I think she would look into. The claims and the things and like take what feels correct and accurate and not everything at face value. But also on the inside of the book, there was a note from her mother who gave her the book that she never took out of the book, which just felt really weird for me to like see a note from your mother in this book that you

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 35:42

Is that a little raspberry up in the corner?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 35:44

it's little like cute, little like plush strawberries, like little strawberry pillows

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 35:49

oh, that's beautiful handwriting.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 35:52

She drew like a little smiley face on the bottom and I'm like, you didn't, one, you didn't look in the book and two you didn't like want to keep this. Okay, now it's my responsibility I guess. So Sylvia Brown, born Sylvia Shoemaker in Kansas City, Missouri. Had a objectively, she would say otherwise a very normal upbringing. She was raised mostly, mostly Catholic and had an Episcopalian mother, a Lutheran grandmother, a Jewish father. And she had a very multicultural upbringing from all these different religions. She would claim that she started seeing visions and experiencing psychic phenomenon either at the age of three or five. There are differing accounts'cause she's fucking lying. allegedly predicted the deaths of both of her great-grandmothers, which is not that hard to do'cause they're fucking old. Um, apparently her grandmother was also a psychic medium who was helping her explore and understand what these visions meant to little baby Sylvia. And she also said that her great uncle was a psychic medium and was quote unquote rabid about UFOs. And there's very, very little extra information I could find about

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 37:19

It does. She believe in UFOs.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 37:23

I don't know, she believes in like heaven and multiple past life theories, so I wouldn't put it past her to also like believe in aliens as like high spiritual otherworldly beings. But I don't know if she's like, had a hard statement about UFOs. Either way

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 37:44

I have a coworker who channels extraterrestrial beings, so I

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 37:49

I got an energy healing from her. Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 37:53

yeah. She like speaks light

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 37:54

Yeah. It was really crazy. It was a wild experience. so now that we've heard a little bit about Sylvia's early life and childhood, uh, it's important to note that none of this is corroborated by anyone else in her family or who was around at that time. And she would say all of these things later in her career to people. Hey, my cats are fighting little bastards. Sorry about

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 38:21

I'm predicting I'm I'm, getting psychic vibes

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 38:25

I'm predicting Hermes is gonna be a little shithead for no reason. Oh my God. I was right. Oh my God, my prediction came

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 38:33

I'm seeing a G. I'm seeing a G.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 38:36

Yeah. I'm seeing a beautiful, a white multicolored cat. Oh my God. I have one. It's crazy. But, uh, she would tell people later in life to create her own narrative of always being special and always being psychic because it's not as impressive to say that you developed your psychic abilities later in life. Everybody always wants to have been born special. Uh, she has been married four times. I'm not really gonna talk about her husbands a whole lot, but the first one is important to talk about because her first husband, Gary Dufresne, claims that her psychic career started at a home party they were hosting during their marriage. And she never claimed to have any psychic abilities before then. So this was all news to him. Uh, Sylvia claims that her gifts are channeled through deep trance, medium shit, and her spirit guide Francine. Uh, enters her body and can communicate with both the living and the dead through her, through psychic vibrations and channeling

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 39:44

So she lets, she, she lets Francine take over her body. And you're actually talking to Francine

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 39:52

I don't think, I think it's coming through Francine, but Sylvia is still like, Francine's not controlling her. She's just like the,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 40:02

she's whispering

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 40:03

receiver. Yeah. She's getting messages and then telling Sylvia, but she's also in Sylvia's body and Sylvia's in a deep trance state. Even though she's just talking normally, So we're gonna get into some of Sylvia's crimes now. Not actual crimes. She has been convicted of. Fraud. I didn't really bring that up, but, um. She was convicted of security. Fraud? Yes. Security and um, what's it called? Like investment fraud.'cause she was stealing money from people that were investing in like a gold mining thing. She was setting up. Yeah, they had securities and like a gold mining venture, but she was also like putting that into her like psychic research foundation that she had set up

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 40:58

That weirdly reminds me of a dream I had last night. I'm so sorry.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:02

Do you wanna say it?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 41:03

Well, part of my dream last night.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:06

Security fraud or

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 41:08

Yes.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:08

gold mining

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 41:09

Gold mining.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:11

Now.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 41:12

I was talking to my mom in my dream and she was like, Hey, like we're about to come into a bunch of money, but like, if you're not okay with it, it's okay. Just let us know. And it was like back in the day, like

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:22

I supposed to do?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 41:23

back in the day, apparently in my dream, my dad put in money for like the African blood diamonds

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:29

Oh, no. That sounds like something he would do

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 41:32

was just sitting on it and didn't think anything of it.'cause he was in the military. I mean, not, not that that has anything to do with anything, but you know, like he just kind of like, uh, but, and then, and now is cashing it out and like, had millions of dollars and my mom was like, Hey, like if you're cool with,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:49

If you want blood money, let me know. I

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 41:52

yeah. Sorry to interrupt. I just, that just shot me like a lightning bolt. I just remembered about the blood diamond

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 41:57

You're like, no, no. The mines no. The fraud. No.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 42:02

Listeners, if you know what that means, let me know.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 42:04

yeah. Let's, let's pick that apart. In like a, a, a, a debrief

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 42:11

Something

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 42:12

cool with it, by the

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 42:12

Poppy's, weird little men running around in Sky's blood money.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 42:18

I didn't take it.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 42:19

What's going on? I had a dream about babysitting my friend's baby last night. Y'all are the crazy ones.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 42:25

giving womb.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 42:27

Shut up. I'm not having a baby. I thought about it this morning though.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 42:33

Whenever I wake up from one of those, I'm like, I should get pregnant right now.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 42:38

I was like, what if I actually was pregnant? And then I was like, no, I don't wanna, anyway, that's the real actual crime Sylvia Brown's been convicted of. These are more crimes against humanity and just terrible things. She's done just to the general public?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 42:59

the crimes of which are gonna be responsible for her not seeing the light of heaven

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 43:03

No, she's, she's in hell. She is burning in hell and I don't even really believe in hell, but she's there.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 43:11

They made it just for her.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 43:12

They made it just for. In 2002, she would claim, this is not related to this particular 2002 history case, but she would just constantly claim that she has helped with like missing persons investigations and she's helping the police on all these cases. So that was kind of, that was part of her bag was like claiming to be helping the police.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 43:42

She's that woman. Okay, now I know who she is.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 43:45

she's one of'em. In 2002, Sylvia Brown informed the parents of 11-year-old Sean Hornbeck. A lot of these are about children. Unfortunately, a lot of these cases are about children. Uh, Sean Hornbeck, who had disappeared earlier that year, that he had been kidnapped by a dark spin, dark skinned Hispanic man with dreadlocks and was now deceased. Hornbeck was found alive in 2007. His kidnapper was Caucasian and

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 44:16

Mm-hmm.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 44:17

uh, in November, 2014. This is a really, this is one of the worst things she's ever done, truly. Just to let you guys know, if you go look up the Ariel Castro kidnapping case, you can read a lot about this. Yeah. Ariel Castro kidnapped and held hostage and sexually abused three girls for, I think it was 11 years. He held them captive. Amanda Berry was one of those girls, and Amanda Berry and her mother used to watch Sylvia Brown on the Montel Williams show. And they believed her. They hung on every word that she said. So when Amanda got kidnapped Her mother appears on the Montel Williams show with Sylvia Brown, 19 months after she's kidnapped and her mother hasn't given up hope. She's still got flyers up. And Amanda's so excited'cause Sylvia's gonna be able to tell her that she's still alive. She's gonna tell her where to

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 45:19

God.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 45:19

her.'cause they believe her. Brown, I almost called her a bitch,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 45:25

This

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 45:26

but this bitch comes to this grieving mother. And Sylvia Brown says, she's not alive. She's not alive. She was killed in the first 48 hours. Sylvia would also, like, weirdly pull this thing where she would like say people are in water, like they drowned or like their bodies in water. And she would go, oh, I hate this. I hate it when they're in water. So she said that Barry was in water and that she had a vision of Barry's jacket in the garbage with DNA on it. Amanda Berry's watching this whole show going, what the fuck? I'm

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 46:06

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 46:07

I'm right here. Sylvia Brown's a fucking phony ex. She's all she's doing is spreading misinformation and giving like false leads to the police at best is what she's doing. At worst, this grieving mother is being told her daughter is dead when she's alive. And her mother would die two years later believing that her daughter was dead because Amanda Berry would not be found for like another eight years. Another seven

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 46:35

thinking her daughter was dead.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 46:37

Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 46:38

Oh,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 46:39

And Sylvia Brown, like Amanda's mother was like, am I ever gonna see her again? And Sylvia said, yeah, in the afterlife, yeah, in heaven. When you die,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 46:50

and her mom said, guess I'll

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 46:51

this. Her mother said, I guess I'm gonna fucking die of heartbreak.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 46:56

And her

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 46:56

mother, my daughter's dead. No. And because Sylvia Brown's a fucking phony, and you can read all about this in the memoir that Amanda Berry and one of her fellow captives, Gina De Jesus, wrote, called Hope a memoir of survival in Cleveland.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 47:13

It's so crazy because with cold cases like that with children, Oftentimes they are only found because their family members keep pushing the police

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 47:23

Yeah,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 47:24

them.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 47:24

they say, I refuse to believe that they are dead until you find the body. So either you find the body or you find

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 47:30

And then you told, then you tell them, oh no, she's been dead for

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 47:34

And her mother was so despondent, like her mother would like take down posters and she like gave away Amanda's computer because she believed Sylvia and she believed her daughter was dead, which is heartbreaking. Uh, in 2010, the Skeptical Enquirer published a detailed three year study by Ryan Schafer and Agatha Jad Cock. I believe there's a lot of consonance in this name. I'm sorry. I think so. But they examined Brown's predictions about missing persons and murder cases.'cause she was always like, Ugh, look at my track record. Look at how many cases I've, inputted on and helped.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 48:18

a liar and a racist.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 48:20

She's a liar. She really, weirdly was always like, yeah, it's a, a Hispanic man. she would throw brown people under the bus law, specifically brown men. but they would examine her predictions and despite her repeated claims to be more than 85% Correct. The study reported that Brown was not even mostly correct in a single case. Surprise. Surprise. And some of the cases that they studied were in 1999. Brown said that a 6-year-old child, Opal Joe Jennings, who had disappeared a month earlier, had been forced into slavery in Japan. Later that same year, a local man was convicted of kidnapping and murdering Jennings. In 2003, an autopsy of Jennings remains found that she had died within hours of her objection. She was not forced into slavery

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 49:12

Yeah. That's

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 49:13

What a bold claim. What's something very, yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 49:15

and she would just fucking lie and say shit for shock value.'cause she's a TV and radio personality. In 2002, brown said that Holly Cruin had disappeared in 1995, or Brown said Holly Cruin, who had disappeared in 1995 was working as an exotic dancer in a Hollywood nightclub. Uh, in 2006, dental records were used to positively identify a body found in 1996 in San Diego as Cruin. She is not an exotic dancer in Hollywood again. In 2002, Sylvia Brown said that Linda McClellan, who had disappeared in 2000, had been taken by a man with the initials mj, and she was alive in Orlando, Florida and would be found soon. In 2003, a year later, McClellan's son-in-law, David Ruski, who had been present at Brown's reading, was convicted of murdering McClellan and her remains were found near her home in Pennsylvania. In 2004, Sylvia Brown said that Ryan catcher, a 19-year-old who had disappeared in 2000 had been murdered, and his body could be found in a metal shaft. In 2006, catcher's body was found in his truck at the bottom of a pond where he had drowned. The one time she could have pulled the, oh, I hate it when they're in water bit. And she didn't

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 50:36

Mm-hmm.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 50:37

She's like metal shaft car. A car is

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 50:39

metal chef car, and that's what she would do. She would pick and choose and be like, well, I said this, but I actually meant that. And like, okay, that part didn't come true, but this part came

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 50:49

I said he was in Japan, but he, he had had sushi like the

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 50:54

yeah, he had su and they were actually in a county starting with the letter J, so like, what's the fucking problem here? Oh, this next one's gonna piss me off.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 51:04

Mm.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 51:05

It's all gonna piss me off. It's fine. So there was a mining disaster in 2006 in West Virginia. Uh, there was an explosion at the Sego Mine, which trapped several miners underground. The following day. Sylvia Brown was a guest on the radio program, coast to Coast am with George Norie. At the start of the broadcast, it was believed that 12 of the 13 miners trapped by the disaster that had been found alive because they had put out like an emergency news broadcast saying that. So Sylvia saw that. when Nori asked Brown if the reported lack of noise from inside the mine might have led her to think that the men died, she replied, no. I knew they were going to be found. I knew they were alive. Later in the program, that very same program. They haven't stopped recording it yet. It was discovered that the earlier news reports had been wrong and they had been put out too early with misinformation. And actually it was likely that only one of the 13 people had survived and not 12 of them like they had previously stated. And Brown said, I don't think there's anybody alive. Maybe one. I just don't think they're alive. So she's heel turning, mid-interview, mid broadcast going, I, I didn't believe, I actually didn't believe that. I believed they were gonna be dead. I actually didn't believe anyone. I believed they were gone.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 52:29

the tape.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 52:30

Roll back the tape. Sylvia, that's not what you said. You're just a fucking liar. Y'all remember COVID?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 52:37

What? that?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 52:39

Y'all remember COVID COVID-19 in uh, in roughly the early 2020 how COVID shook

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 52:46

Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 52:47

It sounds familiar.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 52:48

So Sylvia Brown wrote a book in 2008 titled End of Days, uh, and people have pulled a prediction from that. People by the likes of Kim Kardashian explicitly have pulled this prediction when COVID struck because Sylvia. Predicted a severe pneumonia like illness appearing around 2020, affecting the lungs and resisting treatment. She said it would also disappear, return a decade later, and then vanish completely, and people were pulling that as her predicting C Poppy as someone who has a master's in contagious diseases. Would you care to comment on

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 53:37

Um, there are frequently outbreaks of like avian

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 53:42

They say what? Like every 50 years or so, we have a pandemic.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 53:47

mean, it's more frequent than that. It's like every seven years there's like a really bad strain that will come out of influenza specifically. Um, and I will, I don't remember when the first sars,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 54:01

It was like the two

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 54:03

it would've been around when that,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 54:05

because like SARS has existed for a while.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 54:09

Sars, the first devastating outbreak started in 2002 in China. Um, so a few years beforehand. And that was like, that was bad.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 54:20

yeah, like if you traveled out of the country, they were like, we need to put you in quarantine. Sorry,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 54:26

Um,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 54:26

in case.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 54:27

Oh, I guess it was after I was gonna talk about, um, David Kalman's spillover. He's, he does a bunch of, science writing. He's great Checkout spillover. It's a book about a bunch of different infectious diseases, but he pretty much was like the next big horrible outbreak, pandemic whatever is going to be sars. And it's going to be,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 54:49

Oh my God. He's psychic. Oh my God. Get him on Larry King Live. Oh my God. Get him on a missing person's

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 54:56

he's so good though. Read his book. Read his, he has many books.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 55:00

So she was wrong about COVID. Obviously, she is wrong about most everything she ever says. Uh, she was condemned frequently. She has many people that are publicly critical of her and the things she's saying because they, much like everyone else believe she is spreading lies, misinformation, and just taking advantage of the grieving and people that are desperately looking for hope. One of her skeptics and one of her critics is, uh, Robert S. Lancaster, who has maintained an exhaustive record of her inaccurate predictions and criminal activity at a website he runs called Stop

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 55:38

Oh my God.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 55:40

Let's go Robert. Let's fucking

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 55:42

That's good. I don't know if it's still active because she, spoiler alert, she's dead now, so I don't know if they took it down because she died. But he, Robert S. Lancaster described her pronouncements relating to missing children as incredibly offensive, which is putting it lightly. British journalist and author John Ronson, called Brown, America's most controversial Psychic, and wrote that she was often psychically wrong and made a fortune saying, very serious, cruel show-stopping things to people in distress. and she also would garner disapproval from other people who claim to be psychics. So the girls are fighting. Even other psychics don't respect her One of Sylvia Brown's most vocal critics is a man named James Randy, who is a retired stage magician and investigator of paranormal claims. He sounds like the coolest guy in the world. To have a stage magician come up to you and say, You're a fucking fraud,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 56:48

I know

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 56:49

I would be devastated. I saw smoke and mirrors and parlor tricks and suggestion. That's my whole bag. I know that bag. So James, Randy would claim that Sylvia Brown's accuracy rate was no better than educated guessing, because that's exactly what it was. And on September 3rd, 2001, brown stated on Larry King Live that she would prove her legitimacy by accepting the James Randy Educational Foundation's$1 million paranormal challenge. And that was a challenge that James Randy set up through his organization. I forget exactly what it's called, but his like skeptic, scientific organization where if you can prove you have psychic abilities of any kind, through these scientific experiments that we have set up, we will give you$1 million. If you can prove that you are psychic, we will give you a million dollars. guess how many people have won? Zero.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 57:51

Motherfucking Goose egg bitch.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 57:53

let's see. A version of the challenge was first issued in 1964, so it's been around for a while. Over a thousand people have applied to take it. Through various means, none were successful either by people like giving him the run around and like not responding after they've initially accepted it, or just them being like, I can't unlock my psychic abilities in this specific room because the lights are a different frequency, or just whatever, just

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 58:25

it on.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 58:27

A lot of them were like, this energy is mysterious. I can't just tap into it at will. It comes and goes. And I'm like, well, that's what you were claiming. You could tap into it at will and move a fucking cinder block with your mind. So what the fuck is up? the challenge has since been terminated in 2015 because nobody won. Nobody won. But it's fun to watch. but even though she said she would prove herself in 2001. By 2003, brown had not contacted James Randy to make the testing arrangements. And then uh, the next month, in 2003 on another appearance of Larry King Live Brown said that she had not taken the test because Randy refused to place the prize money in escrow, which is not something they were doing. They were just like, Hey, we have this fucking check here, come take it if you can. Randy responded by mailing a notarized copy of the prize account status showing a balance in excess of$1 million. Brown refused to accept the letter. She literally would not take the letter. It's not that she refused to accept the information, she just wouldn't accept the letter from James Randy. She's fucking insane because she knew, he was like, no, I'll prove my shit. I'll back my shit up. Now it's your turn. No, I got no, you can't tell me I'm broke. I have excess of a million dollars. And it's in this account. And here's the status of it. brown still didn't accept or acknowledge it. And then two years later, in 2005, she posted a message online saying that she never received confirmation of the prize money's existence. She was never, nobody

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:00:07

Now what the hell does escrow mean?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:00:10

It's like a holding sell for money, where like neither party has it, but it's available to go where it needs to go.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:00:18

Mm-hmm.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:00:19

So like, you hold the money in a different, like if you are mad at your landlord, you put your rent money in escrow until they like fix your water heater or whatever. So you're like, no, I got the money and you can have it when you fix my water heater, So she's just lying and he has these certified mail receipts saying that Sylvia wouldn't accept the mail, wouldn't accept the package. She said, no thank you. She's still going. I, no one told me how was I supposed to know? Nobody told me. But then in 2007 on uh, Anderson Cooper. Brown's business manager, Linda Ross, stated that Brown would not be taking Randy's challenge because she has nothing to prove to James, Randy,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:01:05

Oh, you should have just said that in the beginning.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:01:07

It's this run around, it's this bullshit run around she's always been doing and talking out of her ass and then having to actually like, prove anything and then go her going, I didn't say that. What are you, what the hell are you talking about? I didn't say, what, what are you talking about? I'm just a ba I'm just a 70-year-old baby.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:01:30

Like I could to your stupid little challenge, but like I don't have to

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:01:34

but like, I'm not gonna demean myself like these other people are.'cause that's embarrassing. And I'm actually like a, a world famous psychic medium and I help the police on missing persons cases even though I'm not correct. I'm not even mostly accurate in any case.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:01:52

now. Are you gonna be touching on Chris Angel at any point or No,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:01:56

I hadn't planned on it. I don't consider him a psychic medium. He is, uh, well, he's a mind freak. First of

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:02:04

he is a

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:02:04

he's freaking our minds.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:02:06

But he's a con artist.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:02:07

He's a Conor. But I can, I consider him like an illusionist in a stage magician. He's not out here going, your daughter is dead and here's her body. He's going, watch me turn this child into a hot babe

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:02:21

no, he tried to convince me that I could float in my living room through the

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:02:24

Yeah. My brother did buy his magic kit off TV when we were younger. He got, I had in my home the mind freak magic kit for a while. It was really crazy stuff and it was just like the standard magic shit of like ball in a cup. It was just the, and like a mind freak DVD.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:02:42

I do. I like Chris Angel.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:02:44

you should do an episode on Chris Angel. That'd be funny as fuck.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:02:46

No,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:02:48

No. So then why am I gonna have to talk about him?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:02:51

I just felt like it was in the same realm of like TV magic personality.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:02:57

I consider psychic mediums, while they are all con artists and charlatans, uh, like stage magicians are less vile and nefarious and taking advantage of like grief. Whereas the Theresa Caputo, the Tyler Henrys, the Sylvia Browns have like a stadium full of people and just trying to lie and say, oh, oh, your loved one is here with me now, and they're in heaven. You don't have to worry. And also sometimes they will say crazy, hurtful, cruel shit a lot of the times when they talk about, In terms of when they're talking about people that have like died by suicide or overdose, they will, for some reason, they like to say, oh, in the end they didn't wanna die. Oh, in the end, they were regretting it and they were like trying to like figure out a way to like live and first of all, shut the fuck up. Second of all, that is not helpful or comforting or anything. Anyone needs to hear if they know somebody who has died in either of those fashions. I have somebody in my life who died by suicide. If you listen, I don't remember what episode it was, but we talk about our own personal experiences with death. My dad died by suicide and if somebody comes up to me. And tries to tell me, oh, in the end, he regretted it and he didn't wanna die. First of all, I'm gonna punch you in the mouth. Second of all, that is not helpful or comforting because that is something I consistently lie awake at night thinking about and worry about. And the only way I can find comfort in my dad making that choice is that that's what he wanted and he didn't regret it, and that's what he wanted to do. if you come in and tell me that he was scared, he was in pain,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:05:07

Mm-hmm.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:05:08

it's gonna ruin my fucking life. So you're not helping people, you're not helping them find solace and comfort in the death of their loved one. You are a piece of shit and there's no other way to spin it because you're making a career off of it and hurting people. That has lifelong consequences. Fuck Sylvia Brown.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:05:30

If you're gonna lie to people, at least tell them what they want to

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:05:33

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:05:34

that's the part of the story where I was like, that part specifically is gonna make me mad. cause psychic mediums are always saying some bullshit, but she's dead now, so it's fine. in the water now. It's fine.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:05:47

In a metal shaft

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:05:48

Yeah, in a metal shaft in Japan. And did, would, you know, this is the, this is the closing of our story. Sylvia Brown predicted the age she would die at. She predicted that she would die at the age of 88 on Larry King Live in 2003. Do you guys wanna guess when she died? What age?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:06:09

74.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:06:11

I was gonna say 76,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:06:13

77. She died 11 years earlier than

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:06:18

well,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:06:18

cause she's a fucking phony. It's It's a double, it's a repeating of digits. It's just, you know, it might be 11 years off, but if you're looking at it like one through 10, it's only one number

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:06:31

Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:06:32

I know you were saying that she predicted that she made the prediction on Larry King Live, but at first I was like, she, predicted she was gonna die on Larry

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:06:40

Oh, ly King live. Yeah. A bolt of lightning was gonna strike her.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:06:45

88 and I'm gonna be on Larry King and

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:06:47

your show

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:06:49

and I'm gonna have a fucking heart attack on

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:06:51

Yeah, she did. I think she had a heart attack. Let me double check real quick. She had a heart attack earlier

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:06:58

predicted that and I just

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:06:59

She didn't, she didn't predict that she would be married four times. She didn't predict that she would have a heart attack.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:07:08

you would predict like that could come true, it would be the amount of times you would be married.'cause you have control over

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:07:14

Yeah, no, she sure didn't. She did. She had a heart attack in 2011 while she was in Hawaii

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:07:23

juicy brain.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:07:23

Oh, in

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:07:24

and her, yeah, her foundation that she had set up requested donations on her behalf for some fucking reason.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:07:31

doesn't need it.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:07:33

wealthy, and then she died two years later in 2013. Of does it say what? Uh, what? She died of being a piece of shit being full of shit. It was terminal. It does not say how she died, but she is dead now and she is in hell forever and ever. Amen.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:07:48

Well, where is Francine? Where did she

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:07:51

She just went back into the ether. I guess she just went back

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:07:55

oh, I'm, I'm getting a, I'm getting a ping. Francine.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:08:00

Oh. Live on air. Francine, are you with us? Francine? Do you have any, anything to say your body's vibrating spiritually,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:08:12

now are so a question for you? I know that largely what your topic is, is people who are taking advantage of vulnerable individuals for profit. That is

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:08:24

Yes.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:08:25

your issue.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:08:26

That is what I have a problem with. Yes.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:08:28

Yes. Do you believe in true psychics, people who are not taking advantage of people like the

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:08:38

I, I, believe in, and like when I say it, oftentimes it's a joke, but sometimes I will like say some shit that I believe is prophecy, and I'm like, no, I'll wait. That feels real to me. And that might be my psychosis, who's to say? But like I said in the beginning, I believe inherently we are all tapped into whatever you wanna call it, the cosmic goo, the source material. We all came from

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:09:04

unconscious.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:09:06

the collective unconscious. And through that you can receive intuitive messages. You can receive insights from things that feel outside of yourself where you like, you feel like you have no idea where that came from, and you feel like that doesn't make sense. Like with you how you practice reiki when you get a message and you're like, that doesn't make any damn sense to me. What about you, my client who I'm doing Ree on, does this resonate with you in any way, shape, or form, but you're not going, your daughter is dead in a ditch

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:09:37

no, that brings me to my second question is do you think that there is an ethical way to do what these people are trying to do? Your, your, um, TikTok tarot readers or whatever, like, is there, is there, like a you don't, so you don't believe in, um, like hiring someone to do a tarot reading for you?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:10:02

think you, if you are offering anything that you cannot definitively a hundred percent say, I guarantee this will make sense for you and this will resonate and help you, I don't think you should take money for that. I think as a hobby and as a gift, it's, or if you wanna make like a little donation to a local tarot reader. Whatever. I think that's fine. But if you are saying, I can figure out your love life, I can give you a whole 12 card spread, guaranteed. You will find your soulmate. Give me a hundred dollars, please. I don't think that's

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:10:44

because

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:10:45

But what if someone is,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:10:47

Hmm.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:10:47

just gonna say, what if someone is a tarot reader who, they're not making these big claims, they're just kind of saying, if you need help and guidance, I can

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:10:55

can give you, I can tell you what the cards say, but I cannot try to like fix this problem definitively for you. And if you make that very clear, I feel like that's better. Instead of going,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:11:06

So you don't think that tarot readers should be a career or profession?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:11:13

I think it depends because there are, it's like going to a, like a psychic medium, just like any palm reader or like anyone who's gonna look into a crystal ball for you. is complicated because people are complicated and a lot of people have good intentions and are trying to help, but more people have really bad intentions and just wanna take your money and tell you what they think you want to hear. So I don't have a good answer.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:11:44

Yeah, you've said a lot of really controversial things that I think might piss a lot of people off. I'm not mad at

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:11:50

I think there's a way to ethically do it if you're at a very small, individualized scale.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:11:57

Mm-hmm.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:11:57

you shouldn't have a TV show.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:11:59

You shouldn't have a TV show, you shouldn't have book deals if you genuinely are trying to help. That's great.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:12:07

if you have like a regular nine to five job or whatever, and then every now and again you do a little market or something and you have like a table where you read

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:12:15

That's great. Incredible. While making it very clear that, hey, this might not be anything for you, this might not make any sense or help you in what way, shape, or form.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:12:27

yeah, I can't be the, I can't draw a definitive line in your life. Ultimately, it is

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:12:33

your future and

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:12:34

because like Divination is not, divination specifically is not going to tell you. Exactly

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:12:42

no. God no.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:12:43

answers, like a tarot spread. You can't look at tarot cards and be like all November 22nd.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:12:51

Yeah,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:12:52

It's more just like general themes, you know?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:12:55

yeah, they're vaguely like, well, if you continue on the path you're on, you can expect X, Y, Z. But if you're a, it also depends on the question that you're asking. If you're like, well, where can I pivot? And then, you know, you take that information and they say, well, given the circumstances that you're in right now, uh, this is probably a direction that you could pivot should you choose to do that. It's all about your actions, IRL, that determine what your life is gonna be. So that's not to say that, you know, if you were a. Uh, psychic or

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:13:30

are a good hearted person, genuinely, like if you have a side hustle and you're not taking advantage of people and hurting people, keep it up. That's great. That's literally all I care about is people not being taken advantage of. And If you hear me saying my shit. If you're selling spells, that's where I'm like,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:13:48

$50 and you're like, this is going to

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:13:51

getting a little dicey. This is gonna fix everything for you. Then I'm like, well, you can't guarantee that. Yeah. First of all, a lot of the times it's being bought by somebody you don't know and have no connection to, so that makes it way harder. Second of all, you are taking advantage of people.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:14:08

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:14:09

That's really the long and the short of what I have a problem with. But if you're not doing that and you hear me saying my shit and you're like, that doesn't apply to me, you're golden.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:14:17

Do your thing.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:14:18

Keep up the great work.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:14:19

people

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:14:21

It is really rampant in today's day and age. Unfortunately, people are jumping on the spiritual bandwagon. It

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:14:27

of like the new wage spiritualism, it's, and there's always been a problem with it being like corporatized and the capitalism of it all, but it's getting. Also, I think part of it is like a weird spiritual psychosis that's been really rampant for the past 10, 10 years or so, where people are getting taken advantage of at such a grand scale that it is genuinely very concerning and doing a lot of

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:14:56

Yeah. And it's also turned into kind of more of a, an aesthetic and lifestyle rather than an actual

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:15:02

It's less of a practice. Yeah. It's about looking the part and having the right things instead of having like an actual spiritual

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:15:11

Yeah. Getting your goth costume off sheen

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:15:14

Yeah,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:15:16

and. there's nothing wrong with having that be your aesthetic if you're like, I just like it,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:15:22

Yeah, fine. but, don't, don't say you're an eco warrior and you care about Mother Gaia when you're buying shit off of temu. Let's be so fucking for real for a second. You're buying your temu crystals. We all know where they come from. Sky's a blood diamond

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:15:37

The blood diamonds,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:15:38

Your dyed amethyst. Your baked

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:15:42

it's, it's not a color ever found in nature. It looks like an oil spill.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:15:48

that you have

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:15:49

Yeah. Purple glass that are labeled as amethyst shards.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:15:54

works for you, But

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:15:56

Great.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:15:57

the machine that

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:15:58

it. Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:16:00

a part of.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:16:01

Be aware of the

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:16:02

don't claim to be any sort of'cause I feel like this is giving kind of pick me energy right now. a

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:16:08

not, we are not on a pedestal above anyone else. I bought something off of Amazon two weeks ago. I am no better than anyone else.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:16:17

Just

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:16:17

I need to make that very clear.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:16:20

or the

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:16:20

all I ask. Just be mindful. Especially be mindful of when you feel like you are trying, someone's trying to take advantage of you because people will. Don't fall for it. Use your critical thinking skills, please. I love you. I know you can do it.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:16:37

When you're in a desperate situation, you look for anything that might give you

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:16:43

I'm pretty sure I mentioned in that last episode about like our personal experiences with death or the Ouija board or whatever. Like my mom considered reaching out to a psychic medium after my dad died.'cause she felt like she needed that closure. And I said, Uhuh, uh, we are not gonna fall for that.'cause that's not true. At worst, it's gonna make it worse. At best, they're gonna give you false hope,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:17:10

Also you need to consider that even if you know someone, say you had a friend of a friend or some, someone who actually, um, had mediumship abilities. The deceased that you're trying to contact may not want to be contacted. They

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:17:27

Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:17:28

to talk to you.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:17:29

And if they want to, They will find a way, and they'll make it very clear that they're sending you a message, and it is so deeply personal that other people usually cannot tell you what it is. You have to feel it for yourself,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:17:45

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:17:46

whether that's through like dreams or specific animals showing up, or like a song on the radio or whatever at a specific

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:17:53

Even just a, a, really deep, authentic feeling. You know, you're

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:17:56

Yeah,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:17:57

one day and then you're

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:17:58

yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:17:59

whoa.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:17:59

Only you can discern that kind of message and that kind of meaning from it. You don't have to pay somebody$75 to sit in a stadium with them going, I'm I'm sensing a name with the letter. H Does anybody have anyone who died whose name started with H get fucked?

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:18:21

Yeah, probably like 20% of the people in that stadium did.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:18:25

like if I was at the post office waiting in line and someone behind me put their hand on my shoulder and was like, Hey, I'm sorry to bother you. I just

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:18:34

got this weird feeling that I needed to tell you. Yeah. Just

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:18:38

different.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:18:39

me to say this

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:18:40

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:18:41

Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:18:41

help people in that

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:18:43

Yeah. It's gonna, it's gonna maybe ruin my day a little

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:18:46

perhaps. Perhaps.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:18:49

it's so funny'cause sometimes like I'll get like my little weird visions or whatever while I'm doing reiki and I actually have had an occasion where I've thought to myself, well, I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna tell them that. But I get pushed to mention it and I'm like, well fuck dude. I have the why. Okay. But I don't

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:19:09

weird.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:19:11

try to make people feel bad

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:19:13

No, you do accept money for it, but that's because it is a skill

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:19:17

I'm not, it's not for, it's

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:19:18

taught in. No,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:19:21

like, reiki is is not um,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:19:23

I can contact your dead grandma for sure. Gimme 70 bucks. I'll contact your dead

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:19:29

no. At most, at most I'm like, I showed up for you.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:19:34

Mm-hmm.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:19:34

I'm like a, I saw a ladybug.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:19:36

by.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:19:38

Yeah. And if that means something to you, great. Otherwise I'm like, maybe you need to look into like the symbolism of ladybug energy and that's what's necessary for you right now. It's not always like a contacting the dead type situation.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:19:53

when your coworker from. Uh, your former place of work did a reiki session for me. She told me, and at the time I was like, I have no idea what that means. She told me that there was like, she could see a woman through like a cutout, like a door that had the top cutout, kinda like a saloon style type thing. And I was like, I have no idea what that means. And you saying that just now rocketed me back to my childhood in Texas visiting my grandmother. And she had one of those style doors that like went to the kitchen and you could see through it while you're sitting on the couch, like watching cartoons or

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:20:33

Mm-hmm.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:20:34

Weird. Yes. Literally just

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:20:36

back.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:20:37

this moment. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what it means. don't, yeah,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:20:42

Well, and that's why I send my clients home with, uh, I write all my notes down on a little piece of paper'cause I'm like, it might not make sense right now. Or if you just forget what stone I give you, here's like all the information. but yeah, no, I, I'm not, I'm taking money to do a reiki or massage, but it's not like, it's not for the messages, it's just I happen to be Claire

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:21:04

information to the police to like solve a missing children's

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:21:09

absolutely not. No, there are, there are reiki practitioners who aren't Claire Audient, Claire Sentient, Claire, you know, whatever. They just, they just, they're like feeling based and they're, and they're like, you're, this chakra is, you know, needs more attention than the other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, That's, that's how some reiki practitioners are. Everyone's different, but me and my previous coworker that you're talking about, we happen to be ones who see visions and

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:21:38

Mm-hmm. And that's the psychic ability I do believe in. It's not contacting through your spirit guide, Francine to the astral plane,

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:21:50

You're not

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:21:51

No, it's because it's because I'm in contact with you or your energy. And the energy, my energy touching. Your energy is, is sending signals, is sort of how, how it works. It's like Bluetooth kind of, and and you're just saying that,'cause I told you that I saw a stork the last time I did Reiki on you.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:22:12

off.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:22:12

It's giving

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:22:13

me pregnant.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:22:15

Let me get you pregnant.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:22:17

desperate for it.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:22:20

Wow. What a great topic.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:22:22

Yeah. It's just something that I was like, I gotta get this outta my system'cause it's pissing me off so bad. I gotta talk about it and release it.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:22:30

manipulate people for gain.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:22:32

Don't manipulate people for capital gain. You're a real piece of shit and I help you die

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:22:37

we hate fakes and phonies around here.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:22:40

Be genuine. Be yourself. Don't hurt people.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:22:42

Don't try to pretend like you're something you're not. Just to seem cool and impressive. Don't lie about having psychic abilities from the tender age of three. You're, it's fine. People are still gonna love

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:22:53

Yeah. Be just be yourself.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:22:55

Just be yourself.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:22:57

And if you are psychic or if you have like intuitive abilities, if you wear or Claire Audi, Claire Sentient, et cetera, you don't have to pretend to know what it all means. You don't have to be like, I don't know, like you can get messages and Yeah. You don't have to understand it. You don't have to act like you know everything.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:23:20

Provide the pieces of the puzzle. Don't try to put the puzzle together for them. Yeah.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:23:26

Yeah. I, that's one of the big lessons that I've had to learn in my reiki practice is'cause sometimes I'll see. A symbol or something, and I'm trying to piece together what I think it means, but I've, I'm like, okay, actually take it a step back, present it to them because it may have a separate meaning for them. but then if they are saying, well, what does that mean? Then I can kind of give my input of, well, to me this kind of symbolizes X,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:23:54

It could potentially

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:23:56

Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:23:57

meaning

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:23:58

I don't know whether spirit is sending me a, like a symbol for me. Like if they say, well, I know that you'll understand this as this meaning, or if this is a symbol for my client, that they'll understand. For example, I often will get the imagery of. A crown or a tiara being placed on someone's head as, um, and to me, I understand that as this person is being recognized or is receiving an accolade for something, you know, like that's sort of a symbol for me. I understand what that means, that's what that means to me. But if I see like a duck at your solar

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:24:40

Yeah,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:24:42

that I

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:24:42

are like, what

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:24:43

know, I might, right? And I'm sitting, I'm sitting there over your solar plexus going, okay, well ducks are yellow. Um, the solar plexus is yellow. Um,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:24:54

to find the connecting

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:24:56

There are four letters in the word duck.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:24:59

And I'm just kinda like, okay, now I just have to scribble the word duck down and then I give it to my client and my client's,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:25:04

And then your client break down in tears because they're like, that's actually so significant to

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:25:08

my grandmother collected ducks. And it's just like, oh, well there you go. I never have

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:25:13

there you go. No, absolutely not.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:25:15

Yeah, but it's just, yeah, it's just shit like that, that I, I love my job. It's so fun and cool.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:25:20

Mm-hmm. It's very silly.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:25:22

It is very silly, but it's also really weird.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:25:26

Well, any last, any last thoughts? Any final words?

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:25:30

Fuck Sylvia Brown.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:25:33

I predict this episode is going to

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:25:37

Piss people off.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:25:38

piss people

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:25:39

maybe. And hey, if it does, sorry, but I'm a Taurus and I always believe I'm right, so you really can't change my opinion on this.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:25:48

That is true.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:25:49

all we,

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:25:49

kind of person, like we don't kind of want you. here anyway.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:25:53

If you're that kind of person, fuck you.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:25:55

Yeah.

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:25:57

Oh, all right. Well, if you are really pissed off and you wanna yell at us, you can email us at death coven pod@gmail.com, or you can send us something nice, you know, whatever. Um, you can also find us on Instagram at death coven pod message us, like us, follow us, et cetera, et cetera. yeah. By the power of three.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:26:19

And so it is

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:26:21

so it

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:26:21

And so it is.

sleepy-skye-3--honk-shoo-_1_12-21-2025_105035 1:26:26

Ooh,

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:26:29

Do you really think people are gonna get mad about that?

cereal-slut--she-cronch-_1_12-21-2025_105036 1:26:31

I do. Yeah.

sweet-baby-river_1_12-21-2025_105057 1:26:32

Oh, it feels very normal to me.