The Startups Drive
(Formerly Depth Exchange)
On The Startups Drive, I sit down with founders, business minds, creators, and people at every stage of their journey — from first-time builders to seasoned operators — for honest, free-flowing conversations. No scripts, no agendas — just open chats about their work, what drives them, and where the conversation takes us. Because every great story starts somewhere — and it’s the people behind the journey who make it worth listening to.
The Startups Drive
The Truth About Career Change, Burnout & Starting Again
On this episode of The Startups Drive, I welcomed back Natalie Tran — a business and transition coach and former accountant and finance executive — who helps people navigate career change and business growth through her work at Transition With Purpose.
As we head into the countdown to the end of 2025, Natalie and I sat down to talk about when it’s actually the right time to make a career transition, how to build real confidence, and how to design your own career portfolio instead of just chasing job titles — while also creating the work-life balance you actually want and can sustain.
We also unpacked the mindset and systems behind successful transitions — what matters more, how they work together, and how to figure out which one you personally need more of right now.
And we didn’t avoid the hard stuff either. We spoke about burnout — the signs, the symptoms, what to watch for, and what to do if you or someone close to you is already running on empty.
This episode is for anyone feeling stuck, thinking about change, or already in the middle of one and wondering if they’re on the right track — and it’s a powerful listen as we head into 2026.
Natalies First Episode https://open.spotify.com/episode/2GH8XTu4oEizLc0fBOUPg6
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