KonKlusion

Sitting down and Chopin it up with the West Coast own KonKlusion! Rapper, artist, philanthropist and teacher of the vibes that keep us alive!

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:32

What's up everybody, Sticky Rick and here is conclusion. What's going on, conclusion? This is Sticky Rick. How we doing buddy?

unknown 0:41

I'm good, I'm good. How you doing, bud?

SPEAKER_04 0:43

Oh man, just sitting here chilling and stuff, man. Just got eat done eating with the fam and everything. So just enjoying the evening.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Alright, alright. Do you are you trying are you trying to reschedule or do you are you good?

SPEAKER_04 0:55

No, I'm good, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Alright, cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:00

So how you want to do this, Bob? Well man, first and foremost, man, tell me a little bit about yourself, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Well, of course I'm concluding and I've been doing music for ever since I was eleven, so almost thirty years. I actually started doing it I helped out an organization called the Yes Foundation, helped out kids, you know, uh achieve their dreams, whether it be dance, art, or music. So and and had this this program set up and a studio set up for these kids to kind of do what's necessary when it comes to their dream and and had had a skilled artist to take up those specific areas. And I was of course in the music field. Been doing music like that, and then I went to college, shoreline community college, to get a degree in studio production and sound engineering, got my AA there, and I got a family, family of four kids.

SPEAKER_04 1:59

Nothing like it.

unknown 2:01

Huh?

SPEAKER_04 2:01

That's it, nothing like it.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. I got my little one in the room just making as much noise as he can while I'm trying to do this interview. I'm like, you gotta go. You gotta go in the other room.

SPEAKER_04 2:15

It's all good. It's all good, brother, man. We're about family here, man. You know?

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Right, right. That's the other thing, is I'm gonna be taking him to the movies right after this interview. So I just uh I'm trying to get him distracted until we're done.

SPEAKER_04 2:30

Oh hell yeah. So what you guys going to check out tonight?

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Uh what's that new movie? Hopper?

SPEAKER_04 2:36

Hopper? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Yeah. So he wanted to go see that, and I'm like, all right, kid, we'll we'll we'll we'll go to the movies and do that. So that's what we're gonna go see.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

Right on, brother. Hell yeah. Yeah, I got my son, he's in here in the room with me too, listening, checking out the show and stuff, seeing what we're doing, talking and everything. But but yeah, man, you know, uh you know, it's well, you know, it's like you said what you do for the kids, man. You know, if if anything, if our legacy that we leave behind, man, if we're if we're not leaving this place a better per for the kids, man, than what we're doing with our lives, you know.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Yeah, yeah. I always try and tell my kids if you helped uh you gotta help build what you help destroy. So when you're young, you know, you you're fumbling, you're destroying things, you just don't understand what it what it means to actually preserve and take care of until you realize that now you have to build it up and and make it better than what you had it before. So that's the teaching that I give my kids. So hopefully it ingrains in them and they know how to pass it on to their children.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

Yeah. And that's some real talk there too. So would you say where you're from helped shape your music?

SPEAKER_01 3:50

I would say yeah, actually. I would say a lot of a lot of where I was from helped shape what I was going through. But I mean, life experiences is probably the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_03 3:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

You know, life experiences and the things that I had to go through in order to kind of tell the story that I have now. And it it it definitely formed what I what I'm trying to achieve in my image of what who I am as an artist. You know, so it just made me made me realize that I do have a story and it it is common, and people do feel the same way I feel about certain subjects, especially when it comes to these subjects in my life. So that's pretty much yeah, that's how that goes.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

Well, you know, our art is supposed to imitate our life, not the other way around, you know.

unknown 4:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:40

And it it it it seems like in today's society that you know life is more so imitating the art that is coming out instead of the other way around, you know.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

I feel that. I definitely feel that. I don't I because there's no soul in a lot of the songs that come out of creation. It's it's it's not a piece of them, it's just a piece of the the social norm. You know, what everybody supposedly wants to hear. But it's it's not it's not what they really want because when you get an original piece, suddenly everyone's flocking to the original piece. Exactly. That's why Tupac is able to survive throughout the generations so far. I mean, even kids today know who he is and they listen verbally religiously to some of the stuff that he says. So it's it's kind of like, well, okay, if he's able to if you guys are able to to grasp that, then what I mean, are you sure that what you're listening to now is something that's gonna stick with you?

SPEAKER_04 5:38

True. Is it gonna resonate is it gonna resonate in your soul? You know, yep.

unknown 5:42

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 5:43

I I totally agree with that. It just and you know, like you said, people are just redoing the same music over and over again. It seems like we reached a point in music where people have just gotten stuck, you know, and it's just there's no more original thought out there no more to create, you know, it's it's just remix after remix, you know, kind of like after remix, you know. And what's sad is, and one thing I I have this podcast, and why I do this podcast is to expose music that people aren't hearing at a corporate level, you know? Because man, there's some great rappers, jam bands, all sorts of great music, man, inside people's own states that they live in that they, you know, nobody else knows about, you know, and I I love exposing that kind of music because I've been exposed to it myself, and you know, it just surprises the hell out of me when you know more people don't know about this music, you know?

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, it's it's meant to be like that for right now. I mean, anything that's created any type of change is something that's gonna lay dormant until someone gives it a chance to be hurt. So, I mean, nobody wants wants real change.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

No.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Real change is what needs to happen today. I mean, look at half of this stuff. I mean, kids are more influenced by drugs and money and and capitalism than anything. Yeah, but they don't seem to understand what it takes to actually get there. No, they just want they want it right now.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

Yeah, it's a gr it's in gratification, yep.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Exactly. The problem is, is our our generation, the generation like 2000s and all that, they they quit creating. They kind of drop the I mean, I feel like we drop the ball for the younger generation and what it means to create and and to put a piece of your soul in your creation. And I I don't think people create anymore. They like I like you said, they just reboot and redo. Reboot and redo. And it just it's it kills the vibe of the original, original song, because then when I have the kids listen to it, you know, that came from this, and they listen to it, they're like, wow, they're shocked that it like a piece of song actually outlived what they're listening to today. So I mean, just educating them in that sense. And then they're I was like, well, which one do you want to listen to more? This one or that one. And of course, they choose the older one. The emotion and it and it sounds better. It's just got more, it's got more to it. And and they just it's shocking, but it's also reaffirming what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to quit doing music because there's a love, a passion about it that the kids will gravitate to. That they'll look at and be like, damn, that's an original piece, and I feel that. I mean, he's not talking about drugs, he's not talking about money, he's talking about life experience. And these are the things that are gonna help me navigate what I gotta do for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

I dig that, I dig that, and you know, music truly is life. You know, I was having a discussion with somebody earlier about, you know, I can name a playlist for like every decade of my life, you know, sad songs, happy songs, everything, you know, and and and I could probably describe my life to you in songs and music, you know. That's that's right, you know, that's how deep music is in my life, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Yes, I do. I do know that. And I I mean that's that's what I say to anybody who I'm meeting. What kind of music do you like to listen to? If they come at me with iZ, I'm like, oh shnap, now you're reaching the core Peter part of my soul right here. Or, you know, they talk about Boys to Mint, or they talk about uh Nape Dog or Tupac or you know, some of the artists that actually last through the through past their times, and able to achieve like a little bit more attention, even regardless of where they how long ago they made it. That's just that's it's still alive. That creation is still alive, and we keep it alive.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

We do. And um, you know, I'm a huge Marley fan, you know, Bob Marley, man. I you know, they we're talking about music through the ages. That's that's definitely, you know, I mean, I I think his music is is still relevant at any time, you know. And my daughter, you know, she she just but she's 14 months now, and I was putting, you know, my wife when my wife was pregnant, I'd put the phone on her belly and play some Marley and stuff. So anytime I play Marley now, you know, it calms her down and she just she'll or she'll get up and dance to it.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

There you go. What song do you play the most for her?

SPEAKER_04 10:53

For her, could you be loved?

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

Yeah. It's got a good jam to it and stuff, you know, and she thought she throws her little hand up and she just starts dancing in her play pen, you know. And I I want her to love music the way I love music, you know, and realize that it, you know. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

That's that's the only way you gotta show 'em. Because nobody's showing these kids like what I mean, what we've had before.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

No, uh uh.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

It's all relevant, it's all like today's music, and it's like, no, no, no, no. There's there's a a beginning. I mean, I know the classics, you know, Beethoven and all that. I mean, sometimes I I get them to listen to that. Not for very long, because there's no words and nothing else. There's no use to that.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

But I move on from there and I kind of teach, okay, well, here is some Bob Marty, or here is some of the first singers from a from a big, big tent uh big band. You know, that there's a singer right there. You know, listen to them and just kind of cultivate an understanding of how music had its start and what it generated from. You know, that's that's I mean, I try and teach my kids as much as I can about music because I've got such a passion for it. But you know, kids are they're all about video and they get distracted pretty quick quickly.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Their attention span is nowhere near what we had to what we had back in the day. I mean, yeah, if you got ADHD still, it seems that you have a better attention span than most of the kids they have today.

SPEAKER_04 12:21

Yeah. Yeah, and that's that's and partly that partly a lot of that too does fall on us the parents too. We gotta just do better, and that's something I've talked to my wife about too, is that I don't want my daughter really having a you know, knowing what a cell phone does or none of that stuff for a while, you know.

unknown 12:40

Good luck.

SPEAKER_04 12:41

Yeah, I know it's hard.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

How much you hold it.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Yeah, you're gonna want to hold it just the same.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

So lockbox what you get home.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

I'm gonna I'll try and preach what I I'll try and practice what I preach, but that's I mean, with business and everything else that we do today, I mean, phone is an essential thing.

SPEAKER_04 12:58

Yeah, you're right about that. Yeah, that is very true. And plus too, once they get in school and see their friends have cell phones, and then it's just over with after that, too. You know you're stacked.

unknown 13:09

You ain't got nothing else.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Yeah, I might as well get them now.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

But yeah, because if you don't get it, you're gonna hear about it until, well, I don't have a phone, and my friends have a phone and they can't get in touch with me, I can get in touch with them, and oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Yeah. The ongoing argument. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 13:29

So who influenced you growing up the most? Well, artists or just yeah, well, as far as musically.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Well, I mean, when I was a kid, I used to wake up. I mean, sh we used to have big parties when I was a kid. So, I mean, my my dad, they used to party and they used to party all night, but they always had music. And they had Earth, Wind, and Fire, they had, you know, Mariah Carey, my mom was a big Mariah Carey fan, but early in the morning she would be playing music while she's cleaning up the party, you know what I'm saying? And just sing. So I think a lot of my music influence was from her. Cause she was like old school, wanted to figure out what lyric like like they were speaking. So, you know, you had the the take deck where you she would listen to a couple of lyrics, pause it, rewind it, listen to it again, write it down, pause it, rewind it, listen to it again, sing it. Dude, it was a whole two hours of just watching her do this and just trying to figure out the lyrics. I think it more than anything, that's what kind of conflicts me. Like, okay, I guess I need to listen to this a little bit more in depth so I can understand what the lyrics say. So, I mean, with that being, I mean, she she listened to a lot of singing, of course, that was Marty Carey, but she got into she got into some of the the hip hop, you know, with it was mainly Tupac that got me turned into hip hop and rap. You know, that's that's where it all started for me when I heard Dear Mama.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Oh hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Oh snap, you know, yeah. When I heard Dear Mama, I was like, wow. That I mean, because my life was pretty much a a trauma. You know, my pops was uh he was a a gun runner and drug dealer for the Hales Angels and a very abusive guy, and he used to beat the crap out of me, my my my brothers. I had four other brothers, and it was just uh a time of turmoil. So when I heard his song and and how much how much honor and love he had for his mom, I could relate in such a way that I was like, man, I want to make music like this. Yeah, I want to honor my mom like this, I want to do things like this, I want to show people that there's a darker side that nobody sees or even understands that people have to live through and then and just to try and tell their story too. So it was it was a light that just turned on. I was like, man, I want to do that big time. So that's what got me really influenced during that time in the writing music and doing all that is listening to that song. So it was a big time turning point for me.

SPEAKER_04 16:11

Hell yeah. I think the first time I heard Pac was uh Digital Underground, same song. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Humpty, yep, yep, yep.

unknown 16:23

I love that song.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

Yeah, I do too, man.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Round and round. I love most of those songs when they first came out, I was like, this is different. And of course, how sexualized it was. It was like, oh man. Like my mom my mom did not want me listening to any of that.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

But you know Digital Underground was kind of like the PG rating of Two Life Crew, you know what I mean?

unknown 16:48

Right?

SPEAKER_04 16:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

And it just it was appealing, you know what I'm saying? There was a lot going on during those times. I mean, 93 was was dangerous in itself.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:00

I mean, you had the LA riots, you had all these things, like just even the laws themselves, man, were against young black men locking them up and shit, man, you know. And it's just it, you know, when you're in fear for your life, because you know, there's there's like, you know, you gotta watch back because your cops pretty much got a free line to arrest you if you freaking spit on the sidewalk. Man, you know, you're gonna do dumb stuff because you're not gonna be in your right mind because you're worried that you may fuck up and it and and it may not be anything big, but they could just still fuck with you with it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Oh yeah, big fine. And the thing is, is there was I mean, like today, there's cameras everywhere. There's no way they could get away with shit like that. Back then, there weren't no cameras, there wasn't nobody telling the story. This is why music ended up being such a major relevant term, is because, oh my god, they're telling the story. You know, when when when the ice cube went up there and and talked about the batter and all the problems that the police were doing, you know, fuck the police. Yeah, he was saying all those things, it was very irrelevant. It was like everybody was actually able to see what the government was doing in the poverty areas.

SPEAKER_03 18:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

And it it was, I mean, now everybody was able to kind of have an understanding of why people were going through these things. And dear God, thank you for the change. You know what I'm saying? Because now it created big change. I think that's what what the fear is today about music is how how strong the change could be if someone actually wrote something with a little spirit. You know, that I feel like the industry would make a whole one head on the way it is today, if people were capable of doing that.

SPEAKER_04 18:46

Yeah, and it I hate that it's you know, you have to fit into a certain box to make things happen. You know, it sucks you gotta walk this way, you gotta talk this way, you know. I mean, really, it's kinda like they're just open up the door for just AI to entertain us one day because basically that's what they are now, you know?

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Yep.

unknown 19:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Here's your image, here's the image that we want you to have. You don't have I mean that's the whole 360 deal. Yep. You don't you don't own you don't own your own image, you don't own your own music. We give you barely ten percent of what you got going on with anything that we help you with, and you're you're practically making out of the millions that you should be making, you're only making maybe about a hundred thousand a year. Maybe less than that. So I mean artists today they get screwed big time.

SPEAKER_04 19:43

And it's amazing what they'll do for that little bit of change, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 19:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 19:48

Save your soul for that little bit of change.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Exactly. For for scraps.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

And it should be yours to begin with, as long as you know what you're doing with a contract. They don't even teach them that. I mean, they're so young, they just sign anything, thinking that they're getting the most and they're not.

SPEAKER_04 20:04

Yep. Cause you know, I I talked to bands at tour, you know, on the podcast, and man, touring is is is a beast, you know, and it sucks to you know get paid scraps like that, and you know, you have to go out on the road and grind so hard just to help make, you know, the ends meet and everything, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Yep. And you still don't have enough.

SPEAKER_04 20:25

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Still gotta pick up a side hustle. You still gotta pick up even like you gotta pick up a regular nine to five just to kind of pay what you gotta pay.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

I mean, especially with today's economy, good luck.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Pursuing a dream. I mean, I I've got a full-time job right now.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

I mean, uh me too, brother.

unknown 20:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

You know, I tell people all the time, uh, and and I was talking to somebody earlier, it's like, you know what, you gotta make dreams happen yourself. You know, dreams and blessings aren't the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Yeah. Yep. And you gotta work ten times harder to kind of get the dream to go.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

I mean, shoot, I I work in a union. I wor I were I'm a drywall finisher. They pay pretty good with if there's work. And nowadays with the all the tariffs and everything else, there's really not enough business coming in to kind of justify the means. So now you gotta pick up other side hustles to kind of make the heads meet.

SPEAKER_04 21:20

Yeah, it's it's you know, I work two weeks just to just basically get to pay for one whole week, you know, taxes and shit, you know, and then your insurance coming out uh help keep you healthy, 401k, all that stuff, you know, and yeah, man, it it it it's it starts to hurt, you know. And you know, the American dream is there, but you gotta work for it. But man, I I tell you what, sometimes it it's a big ass hill to climb.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

Oh shit. I believe that. But know what, man? It ultimately if you're working towards your dream, it doesn't matter how old you are.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

No, uh-uh.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

It doesn't, and people seem to think what if you're working at your dream, it's a young man's game. No, no, no. It's your passion, it's your it's your dream, it's something that never dies, that that lives in you forever. And it doesn't mean that you have to have one type of dream, you can have plenty of dreams. I mean, I've I've got I've got dreams that I can achieve, especially with my kids. But I mean, music's always gonna be part of who I am. It was my development, it was it was my core meaning to live half the time when I was a kid, you know. That was the only reason why I was able to pursue what I'm pursuing today, is because music was able to kind of alleviate all the problems I was feeling inside my head. So, I mean, I will I will die making music, you know what I'm saying? That that's how much I I that's the passion I have for it.

SPEAKER_04 22:53

And you know what? And that's the fire that keeps you alive and keeps you going too. You know, having that kind of drive and passion. And a lot more people need that, you know. And I think I I think especially if people had more of that today, a lot of my things wouldn't be going on that are going on today, you know. And but I I think we gotta do more, you know, of course there's a lot of crap going on here in the state I'm in and stuff, you know. They just kind of boo-booed the pool us on the marijuana laws here and it just yeah. You know, you can have it there? Well, it they it they did legalize it, but they're they you know, messing around with the laws that are inside the law, you know, that kind of thing. So, you know, you can have marijuana inside your home, but if you're caught traveling with it, it's a felony. So yeah. So that means if you go into get it and bring it back, you get caught, it's a felony.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

So it's kind of like you know, I think it's purchased this.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

That means you gotta grow your own shit.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

How many plants are you able to grow?

SPEAKER_03 24:04

Um I think it's probably a dozen plants, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Wow. Over here you can only grow three.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

Three?

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Grow three plants, and but you could you could buy and it's it's yeah, I'm I'm in Washington, by the way. And you can buy, but if you're trying to get a job where you have to take a piss test, you know, that's where it's it gets sticky now, you know what I'm saying? Where because it's not at a federal level, yeah, you could still not get the job that you're looking for because you smoke wheat.

SPEAKER_04 24:39

That's uh one thing they've been lenient on here, I've noticed, which has been really cool, you know. And and it's a good thing because you know, uh a lot of people drink. A lot of people going to work with hangovers and stuff like that, you know. And yeah, here, you know, one thing that's big here in Ohio during the wintertime, you know, it's cold here, so everybody pretty much stays in and drinks, you know. They go to house parties and everything, and yeah, a lot of alcohol going on here. And of course, that's one of the things that's expecting the lawmakers is the alcohol business, you know. Right. Because one thing you noticed around here when it was first legalized recreationally, you noticed a drop in alcohol sales. Imagine that.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

You know they're pissed off.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Yeah. Well, see, the thing is is that the even the cops get a ding because I mean, when you smoke weed, you don't really want to fight. Uh-huh. But when you know when you drink a couple drinks and you get a little emotional, suddenly everyone's swinging.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

You know what I'm saying? So now the law is catching a big, big hit on that that end too.

SPEAKER_04 25:47

Yep. You know, and I mean I take that into consideration when I go to events. If there's gonna be an event with a lot of alcohol at, I don't I don't particularly go to it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

I I try not to either. Oh yeah. But you got alcohol and uh suddenly things start getting crazy.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

And problems start happening. It's just like, dude, I am not gonna do that right now.

SPEAKER_04 26:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Nah. I mean, but that's how I mean me and my brothers would every time we go out somewhere and there's alcohol, there's always a fight.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

It's just it's something that I've I've we've come to realize, you know what, we just need to stop going out. Yeah. Because when we do, for some reason, we're all it's all attracted to us.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

It comes to us in waves, and it's like, dude, it's non-stop. So we kind of just we don't go out no more because that kind of problem.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

So we stay home, we hang out, we have people come over to the house, and if they're gonna drink, we kind of regulate what's happening in our own home.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Oh yeah. Yep. Yeah, if this person is a little bit too much on drinking, yeah, you you know, can't drink when you come over.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Here's here's water, bro. Yep. Here you go. You can have that.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

If you want a little weed, you're gonna buy, but I'm not gonna have a drink.

SPEAKER_04 27:13

Yeah, hit this bong, brother, man. You'll be alright. I promise.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Right, right?

SPEAKER_04 27:18

Yep. And man, that's one thing we need to do too is get more cannabis conscientious people in the government. You know, I mean we really do. Cause I've been smoking weed since I was sixteen years old, you know, so bum bum bum about thirty-four years now. And man, I've gotten to the point in my life, you know, I I I smoke cannabis all the time, you know, but I rarely get stoned, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

No, I get it.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

The other benefits I get for it for my body, for my aches and pains, man, it's it's my mental head medication, you know. And to be honest with you, people say weed makes people lazy. Fuck no, it doesn't, man. No, it don't. It's all about the individual, you know it.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Exactly. Exactly. I mean, because I work in construction, so of course I understand the aches, pains, and all that, but I also want to work out.

SPEAKER_04 28:17

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

So when I get home, I only take about three hits and I I put my joint away. A little container, I put my joint in. I I I smoke a J for almost a week and a half before I'm up on it. I get that whole like I smoke weed, but I'm not always high. Because I only do it when I get out of work so I can work out and do more shit.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Cause then I got music and I got a set of stuff that I want to do, and I want to make sure to do it. But when I'm out of work and I don't do that, I lay down on the couch and I just fall asleep. But if I smoke, I'm more active. I go, I work out, I get my music done, I do a whole bunch of other stuff, and I feel I feel great. I'm able to do it.

SPEAKER_04 28:58

Yeah, it does. It it it makes your body feel better, you know. It takes away because man, you don't work for that nine to five. And me, I work, I have a job where I I'm a metal consolidator and I'm moving 50-pound freaking cases around all day long, you know. And man, my body is so tight after I get off work that you know I have to consume cannabis when I get off to just take the because it feels like I got a constriction around my spine, you know, from so I I I have to, you know. I mean, I'm not a big fan of taking pills, you know. I had a I had an addiction to Xanax quite a few years ago, and I just, you know, I'm just not down on taking pills. I don't, you know, that stuff is just uh to turn you into a zombie, you know.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

And and you're not all there. You know something. I don't know. With me, when I was taking pills, I was angry. I was really angry once at a time. I mean, it was it was affecting my family, it was affecting my mom. My mom felt that me said, You need to stop taking that shit because there's something wrong with you right now. This ain't you. So when I got turned on to weed and I started smoking again, uh, I went to work one day and they're like, Oh, well, you gotta take a fist test. And I was like, I ain't gonna pass. I ain't gonna pass. I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm not, I don't take pills, I don't like, I don't like Vicodins, I don't like any of that shit. I smoke weed because it it's what helps my body. And they said, Well, uh, we're gonna we're gonna rip this test up. You go ahead and get to work.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

Hell yeah. I said, I did it. Because you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take the test.

SPEAKER_04 30:23

Yep. I mean, judge the context of your character and what you put in on the job site, not what you do when you get off the clock if it's not affecting your job, you know.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

The only thing is that if you're if you get hurt, hurt, yeah, there goes your L and I claim. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, shit. Well, I I mean I take the risk and I take care of my body, so I don't think I'll be getting hurt at work.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

But for those who don't don't think like I do or don't take care of their body like I do, then they're screwed. Yeah. You know. But I've noticed most construction workers they have tight backs and do all that. Once they get to work, suddenly all that pain goes away until they go home. So it's just it's just the job. This is how it is.

SPEAKER_04 31:07

Yep. That is very true. What else do you do? Uh you know, you got a busy life with your music, family. What do you do in between those things?

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Well, I do I do my music and I work out, but I also I I ride my Harley. I try and go to different places and just with on my bike and just kind of visit different different places and just kind of that's the other thing that kind of gets my mind off of things is is riding my bike and just taking taking off and going going to see different parts of the state. I like to to travel to different states and just go long distance for some time to see what that's like. But that all takes coin and an amount of money I don't have right now, considering my family situation.

SPEAKER_04 31:54

Yeah, you got some beautiful fucking country up there, man.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Oh yeah. Yeah, I'd be very good. And it's the sun is finally starting to come up after the two hundred days of rain.

SPEAKER_04 32:04

Damn. I forgot about that shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

Motherfucker rains all the time out here.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

But it's it's definitely once once we get to the bike season, I I'm out. I I'm more on my bike than anything. And I try and I try and keep it that way. My son likes to ride with me too. We go to different places and we'll hang out and he enjoys it just the same.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

Hell yeah.

unknown 32:32

I know.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

It's good to share those things with the kids like that, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 32:36

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He likes it a lot. My mom, she's uh she's totally against the whole bike thing, you know. But I told her, I was like, hey man, if you you if you're trying to die happy, those are one of the ways.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

You know what I'm saying? So but she she gets it and she's just like, well, you gotta do what you need to do. It's your life. Like, thanks, mom.

SPEAKER_04 32:59

Well, do you ride with a brain bucket or without one?

SPEAKER_01 33:02

I ride with one.

SPEAKER_04 33:03

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Yeah. I mean, shoot, if I could survive and crash, then uh I'm here longer for my family.

SPEAKER_04 33:09

Yep. I agree. And you know what, it and to me, it's not about my driving, it's other people, man. Oh yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Oh yeah. Big time, and there's a lot of idiots out there. Yes, there is.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

And I and I don't want to die because I didn't have my helmet on because I'm jackass bucked up, you know what?

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I try and stay pretty pretty mellow on all that. Uh you know, plus it's the law here in Washington. If you don't have that on, they they pull you over. They'll take your bike from you.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Yep, they don't play out here.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

Yeah, you get to ride around with that helmet here in Ohio.

SPEAKER_02 33:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:49

Yeah, it's I man, I just I just can't do it because man, you could just be sitting at a light and fall off your bike and hit your head on the curb and it's over with.

unknown 33:56

Yeah, you're done.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

You know? And that bike is heavy. You're gonna go down with it if it decides it's gonna go, you know.

unknown 34:03

Right? What do you ride?

SPEAKER_04 34:05

Oh, uh shit, man. I hadn't ridden in years, man, but when I did, I was uh dirt bikes, man. Oh yeah? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

Um see I'm gonna get that's the next thing I want to get into is the dirt bikes, quads, and all that. I know son.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

I'm gonna get out of here.

SPEAKER_04 34:24

Yeah, but you know, what at a Yamaha 175, and man, I was all the time wrecking on that motherfucker when you're riding it at first, you know, and I couldn't imagine, you know, never ever ever riding without a helmet on because I mean heck, there were times I would be loading my bike onto the trailer, just load, you know, just riding it up the trailer and freaking it didn't load right. And I yeah. You know, and and man, you know, hit my head, you know, and I'm like, man, I'm glad I wore my helmet.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

It's just going up the bench.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

I know, and it's I mean it's dangerous, but at the same time, it's a part of life that just kind of it's exhilarating, and at the same time, it just kind of alleviates the stress that you feel on like the weight that you feel on your head.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Most of the times. You know, I I I enjoy it a lot kind of getting out of that situation. I mean, I like going to concerts, I like going there, but with how money how tight you gotta keep your money these days, it's hard to even do any of that.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Yeah. Yeah, especially gas prices. Uh hopefully they'll come down before the festival season gets here because you know, we're just planning for a lot of to be at a lot of festivals this year in podcasting, and man, these gas prices hurt like they do, you know.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

Right. And I'm hoping to do the same because I gotta perform. Yeah. I gotta perform, I gotta get my music out there, I gotta get people to listen. And just I mean, so far I was able to do a venue over at El Cordón, which is one of the the big venues in Seattle, and it's it was it was popping. I need to get more venues, I need to get my music out there, and people they enjoyed it. It was a good response. Yeah, and uh it was a lot of fun. So I definitely love putting on shows, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_04 36:10

Well, man, uh shit, man. Get your information to me, man, and I'll get you hooked up with uh Billy Blaze and the council hit this way in Ohio and stuff, man, and get you something set, man.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Oh, that sounds like fun.

SPEAKER_04 36:23

Hell yeah. We're gonna be going to the 420 Canon Festival, and Jesse Howard's gonna be there and shit, and uh man, hoping to get to sit down and have a little talk with him too while we're there.

unknown 36:33

Oh hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

All right. Well, I'll definitely give you that, man. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 36:40

Hell yeah, man. Billy Blaze got some good shit going on here in Ohio with the rap scene. And the council. If you get a chance, look up on YouTube, man. Look up the council, okay?

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Yep. Council.

SPEAKER_04 36:53

They they call the weed suits.

unknown 36:56

Weed suits?

SPEAKER_04 36:56

The weed suits, yep.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

All right, I'll check it out.

SPEAKER_04 37:01

Hell yeah, brother. Well, brother, I'm gonna go ahead and let you go. I know you got plans with your kids, but hey, man, let's do this again, too.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

I'm in.

SPEAKER_04 37:10

All right. Hell yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

Appreciate you taking the time.

SPEAKER_04 37:13

Yeah, hell yeah, man. Talk with your people and stuff, man, and get your information, everything sent to me so I can get it posted on my podcast page and everything, and uh, I'll get the links for this podcast and everything sent over for them, man. But yeah, man, let's sit down and chop it up again one day on the show, all right?

SPEAKER_00 37:29

That'd be badass, dude.

unknown 37:30

I can't wait.

SPEAKER_04 37:31

Hell yeah, brother. Well, man, conclusion, man, thank you so much for being here on the Hot Box Podcast, brother, man. You have a good day, have a good weekend, man, and enjoy those time with those kids, man, because that you know, they don't come around often, you know it. Right.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

They don't stay young for for that long either.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

No, they don't, brother. They sure don't, man. And that's you know, it's like my little daughter, man. I love kissing her little baby feet, man, because they just so adorable and stuff, you know. And I was like, man, I'm not gonna be able to do this for much longer because she's gonna get bigger and stuff, man. So I'm I'm I'm I'm cherishing it while I got it, you know it.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

There you go.

SPEAKER_04 38:05

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

All right, boss. You have a good one.

SPEAKER_04 38:08

You too, brother. Be good, man. Take it easy.

unknown 38:10

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

Late.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Peace.

SPEAKER_04 38:15

What's up, everybody? This is Sticky Rick, man. We did our show. Hope everybody enjoyed it. We are about to sign off here, man. We enjoyed our talk with conclusions tonight, man. You know, man, it's so awesome to hear it's a new artist, you know, hearing about what they're doing and everything. And man, I'm excited, man. We're gonna get to chop it up again. We're getting more in depth about his music and stuff, but we're just getting, you know, getting to know the man right now. Next, we'll get to know the music. But we're out of here. We love you guys. Good vibes, tribe. Y'all have a good weekend.