Behind the Dough: The Doughrific Kids Story with Stacey McChesney

Ever wonder what it actually takes to run a creative, handmade business while juggling a family?

We’re sitting down with Stacey, founder of Doughrific Kids, who turned a simple DIY Play-Doh kit for her son into a beloved national brand. This conversation is pure mom reality: honest, warm, and full of "oh wow, same!" moments.

Stacey shares her journey from the early chaotic days, revealing:

• The incredible power of sensory play—and how it changed her son’s speech and development.
• The unexpected realities of running a high-volume small business from her home (hint: it involves 500 pounds of flour a year!).
• Why finding time for intentional, creative play is crucial for connection (and sanity!)—and how she started.
• What parents don't see behind the scenes: the market days, the garage storage, and the balance of setting clear business and family boundaries.

If you're balancing work, hobbies, and family life, or just need inspiration to follow your child's interests, this episode is your dose of encouragement and inspiration!

Check out how awesome her kits are here:
Website: www.doughrifickids.com
Instagram: @doughrifickids
Where to shop locally: Dinger Trading Company (Boerne), Backstreet Customs (La Vernia)

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Hello and welcome back to Unleash Moms and happy Friday. Today we have a special guest with us. is Stacey from Do-Rific Kids, who makes specialty Play-Doh kits for kids. Stacey, go ahead and introduce yourself. I'm Stacey McChesney. I'm owner of Terrific Kids here in San Antonio. ah I've been in business the last five years. I've lived in San Antonio 16 years with my husband and my two kiddos aged eight, almost nine and 12. nice, I can't believe it's only been five years for Dorific Kids. I feel like it does, it's doing so good. Okay, I think we can relate to that, like longest ever sticky to something, because we like to ping pong around a little bit too. Same, same, I think I found my thing. So I'm like, okay, at almost 40, that's probably a good thing. Oh, that is funny. I love Dorific kits for my kids. And Stacey, my kids are the same age as your kids. And I didn't realize that. I know. ah Usually we have followers um or have been leaning towards the like kinder age group. And so it's always funny when we encounter the little bit older age group. I in our closet, art closet, and they literally had them out this weekend. They have them out all the time. We've had our kits for a long time. They love them. need a restock. I'm like all the holiday ones are coming. I'm ready to just like buy them all. they are, very excited about that. funny. Okay, so we're gonna walk through kind of the story of how you started Doriffic and some of your favorite things just going through life that got you there. But let's start off with what's your favorite Doriffic kit to watch kids play with? So it's not a specific kit, it's actually party favors. um That is my creative outlet. um It lets me, you know, all the creative juices start flowing and I usually will get with a mom and she'll say, I'm having a party, I need party favors, here's my invitation for inspiration. And I go with the kid's theme and kind of match colors and stuff and that's my favorite. Thanks. one before and I was like, my gosh, that's so cute. I have a ballet child. So. I love I have a ballet kit too. I have not posted it on my website yet. So there's a lot of new themes, you know, that I need to post that I'm behind on that are coming. But yeah, there you go. There might be a little you know, ballet and Christmas this year too coming. So I'm excited. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. my gosh, I'm so excited. I just love finding the things the kids are into and then making a kid with it. That's kind of just how they all come. one a few months back. I feel like it was only a months ago. I barely got that one. Yeah, I think I was like your last one. I probably, yeah, that was very, very popular. So it's kind of fun to go with the trends if I can find, you know, stuff to go with it. Yeah, that one was a definite hit with my kids. All three of them love Bluey. So was like, this was the perfect hit. oh I know it's fun to see them like come up at markets and stuff and be like, oh, and like point to the ones that they like and stuff. That's, that's another favorite part of mine. I'm like, okay, this was a hit. This excitement. So let's let you explain what the kids are and what is special about. your dough? um Just in case someone's listening that doesn't know what these dough kits are and they're like, what are you guys even talking about? But the cool thing yeah. So they're Play-Doh sensory kits and the full-size kits are my usual seller that I do all the time. And so they come with three different colors of handmade dough and sensory items to go along with it. The mini kits are the same way. Those have jars. The party favors are the same way. uh have have, know, Play-Doh have sensory uh items to match. And my dough is special and it's all handmade and cooked on a stove in small batches. by hand and I feel like that gives the dough a little bit more longevity. There's less likely to, you know, mold and things like that and it will last six months to a year. Like I have people that are like, have last Halloween or I have last Christmas and it'll be a whole year later. So I feel like it makes the dough last. It's super soft, doesn't crumble like store-bought Play-Doh and dry out. Yeah, I think I have kits that are two years old and they did get a little sticky but we just put a little flower in them and they like to totally revive them. They were great. yeah, a little bit of flour or a little bit of oil or water if it's like a little bit dry or crystallized. But yeah. OK, so what's inspired you to start Dorific? So it actually started during COVID. um I was looking for something like everybody else to entertain my kiddos, specifically my son. And I was like, really, I need something. And I found Play to a Sensory Kids online. And the one thing that struck me was how expensive they were. And I was like, I really don't want to spend that if he's not going to play with it. There were themes that really didn't interest him. He was a big train into trains back then, not that he isn't now. uh but I wanted a train Play-Doh sensory kid. So I went to the local Dollar Tree and I found some trains and I threw some other stuff in there and kind of made him a kid. I was like, that'd be really cute if I put his name on it. And I did, and he loved it. And you have to understand this is a kiddo whose attention is very hard to get a hold of and sustained activity and he played with it forever. And I was like, oh, and so I told a friend and they're like, oh, that's really cool. Will you make me one? Sure, so I made them one. um And then I was like, that'd be cute to make, you know, a construction one or a dinosaur one um or a Minnie Mouse one. And it spiraled. And then I actually posted on Masso, which is a local mom's group here in San Antonio. um And they do add Sundays. And I was like, oh, see, maybe somebody wants to buy it. And I posted and it blew up. And I was like, oh gosh, that was like way more than I expected. And I was like, there might be something here. And so it's kind of just grown organically since then into what it is today. I love that story. Thanks. uh Let's see, I think you kind of talked about why it was so important really right there, right? Finding this kit that aligns with your kid's interests and the interest in the play. Do you feel like sensory play has played a really important role in yours and your kids lives? for... so I did not know what the word sensory was. I was not familiar with it and didn't have any background knowledge on it until I took my son to speech. He wasn't talking it to and so we were like, we should start speech therapy. And the speech therapist was like, he has sensory issues. And I was like, what is sensory? And from there, we've kind of learned the importance of sensory. what sensory overload looks like, uh sensory seeking, things like that. um And so it's super important. We all kind of are sensory people and it just plays a huge role in developing speech and fine motor skills, all those things. So it's become a part of our daily life and getting to share that with others is such a blessing. Yeah, I couldn't agree more, like 100%. So on a kind of offshoot here, you mentioned that you studied forensic science and what was the other one? was in microbiology. Yes. We were surprised to see that we had no idea. yeah, we had no idea. How did you, one, how did you choose that? And then like, did you ever end up working in that field for a little while? Or do you still do now? Actually, so I switched my degree a couple, you know, a few times and it added an extra semester. But I did graduate with a bachelor's in microbiology. I did not use it. I wanted to go into forensics and, you know, life happened. And I followed my husband here who had a job, you know, set up after college here. And I was like, what do I want to do? And so was like, well, maybe I'll maybe I'll teach because I've always loved teaching. Um, and so I subbed for a little while the siege, like the elementary age and fun fact, I did not. and that was before I had kids. Um, and so I decided to get my teaching certificate at the high school level, um, taught a little bit. And then I had my son and I was like, okay, I'm gonna stay home for a while. And that, you know, transpired into a few years staying home. And, um, I worked a little bit for, um, Happy Family, which is an organic baby food company, and I did marketing for them. And I was like, this is kind of fun. And so I've used the marketing things that I've learned working from them into Doriffic. And it just was one of those things that I did not anticipate doing. But I still feel like college has set me up a little bit to learn business and stuff like that. But in terms of science, not so much. So I have not used it. I mean, there's a little science in dough making, It's a little bit of chemistry. mean, for sure, for sure. But you know, in terms of like the forensics and stuff, I liked it before it became like mainstream, like super popular. eh But no, I'm very happy doing what I get to do. you know, it's turned hobby into business, but it still gives me the flexibility with the kids being little and in school. I don't know, maybe one day when they're, you know, older and, and whatnot. But for now, I think I'll stick with it for sure. Well I can totally relate to that turning a hobby into a job because before I had my business now I did the custom wood art and stuff and doing markets and stuff was really hard for me it was a lot of time so did you ever step out and do markets and vendor events? I did. It's not my primary, my favorite thing to do in terms, like you said, it's very um labor intensive. um Setting up for it, prepping for it, not knowing exactly what you need to bring or not bring. um And then you're dependent on the people there coming and advertising. And there's just a lot of factors that play a role. And they're usually all day long on the weekends. um Those are the times, you know, my kids are actually home. So I've taken a big step back from markets, but I'm excited because the holiday season's revving up and there's a few um that I do each year. So looking forward to that for sure. I miss the interactions with people. I don't get that, you know, when they buy online and stuff like that. that I look forward to. Your market setup is actually really like nice too and easy to see all the kits and everything like how you display them and stuff. Cause we went, you were in the Banny, Bernie, Henry market. What was that last year? Yeah, but we went last year, I think. Yeah. it's definitely evolved there as well. You know, started out with one table and I'm like looking around and like, my gosh, okay, I need set my game up. Well, your setup, think it was last year, was beautiful. So I loved it. And it got me buying, like, I bought like four kits that day, I swear. You all are like the best customers, but thanks. Yeah, that's definitely evolved. The setup, the pictures, things like that as the business has evolved. So I look at the first pictures and I'm like, my gosh, that was terrible. Why did anybody buy that? That's crazy. What is the most rewarding part of seeing the kids kind of walk by your booth or parents and light up? just our excitement, you know, um just they're like, my gosh, I want this one and this one and this one and, you know, explaining, you know, what parents and like what it is and what the kids could do. know, getting those pictures from customers is my favorite. mean, just that's that's everything like this smiles. That's my why, you know, that's why I do what I do. So cool. um Do you have your dough in stores anywhere? Like little boutiques? I know we have a lot of those around San Antonio. do. So I am in the Dinger Trading Company in Bernie on Main Street. They carry my sensory jars and they're usually they're they're like the party favors, but I don't sell them myself. So that's my wholesale for stores. I'm also at Backstreet Customs in Laverne. She's a cute boutique that does, you know, personalizations and stuff like that. And she carries my sensory jars as well. um I was in Learning Express, but they went out of business here in Stone Oak. um But those are the two stories that I'm in right now. So that was. just on your website. Yes, so I primarily sell through my website, through know, Facebook, Instagram and stuff like that. Yeah. em What is something behind the scenes people don't see about running a small creative business you feel like like something that it would surprise them maybe. How much flour I go through? No, we did the math. was like, I talked to my husband, I was like, hey, how much flour do you think I use? He's like, I don't know. Let's like think about it. And I looked back, because I get it from Sam's and we looked and it's about average about 500 pounds a year of flour that we go through. And how much, you know, logistics go behind, you know, how many things I need, you know, my whole one car garage is just, you know, storage of sensory stuff. and actually showed a pan before in your stories of your setup, like your big racks. And I was like, wow, that's a lot of Play-Doh kids. Yeah. see the new wall of Play-Doh that we've put into my office and stuff to make it easier to grab and whatnot. But how much stuff it truly takes to make it happen. And you handle all the shipping and everything also, Just you, your husband help? yeah, my husband's a huge, you know, part of it. He actually created my website. We're in the process of making a new website. And he does the shipping. He figured out all the shipping logistics and stuff like that. But yeah, we, it's, it's, it's a two person, mostly me now that he's back at, you know, at the office after COVID and stuff. um But yeah, we ship nationwide for sure. Wow, that is crazy. So it sounds like based off of your college degree, you moved into working with kids and then you kind of hung on to that niche, I would say. And then based on the form that we asked you questions on, you're also the PTA president. my gosh. I know, I don't know how I got wrangled into that. But this is my second year at the elementary school. And it'll be my last year because we can only go for two. um So but I am looking forward into you know, pouring a little bit more into the terrific because it's been hard to juggle the two for sure. Yeah, yeah, having a good balance between all the things. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. em What's something you've learned the hard way about setting boundaries and or balancing stuff between like work and your kids or taking on extra duties like PTA president and you know, how do you set that like boundary of no like this is my time for this or you know, I recognize you when you need to step back and take a moment for yourself even. I think that, like in of itself, learning to say no, uh I struggle with that. I struggle as a people pleaser, you know, um and I've learned to say no and I've learned to set boundaries and set, you know, specific times that I'm going to work on just PTA stuff and then, you know, just horrific stuff and learning to turn the phone off and put it away for a hot minute. And it's hard because I need my phone, you know, for business and social media and stuff like that. But just learning that it's okay to say no. you know, and I can't please everybody and I will not please everybody and make everybody happy. And I think, you know, coming to that realization is, is self growth on my end for sure. I think that's something that is really important for all moms, because even I, do a lot of things too. We have, you know, this Instagram page and podcast we do, and then I signed up for a social role in my community. And then I also run a business. And so having those boundaries is like. Huge, like it's a make it or break it. almost have to. I mean, for your own self, you know, mental health and everything else, for sure. Yeah. uh So let's shift back to playing with the like sensory in general. um Did when you introduce these kits to your son, did you kind of have to play with him to kind of show him or did he just you plopped it in front of him and he was like ran with it? it? And now with him, I would pop it open and it was like parallel play. And I would get a little bit of Play-Doh and like do something with it. And he'd be like, okay, you know, and it was just kind of, it didn't take a whole lot, um you know, and just, yeah, I mean, that's the beauty of open play. You can just open a box and see what the kids do. And if they don't do anything right away, you can kind of do your own thing. And then they kind of just organically take over. um You know, our grandparents loved to play with their grandkids with it. You know, it's a great way to draw on the older kids, the teenagers to play with the younger siblings and stuff. It's just one of those great things that just encompasses everybody. Yeah. One of my favorite kits is the ones that come with money because of the kids. I think her, I think Delilah has the donut one. I think she has the donut one and the cupcake one and all of them. yeah, put the money in it. They love playing with the money. Oh, it's so fun. a lot of, know, that that's the teacher in me is like, okay, what could we do with this, like the learning, you know, um putting that, you know, inside the kids and stuff and those opportunities and pairing them with lessons or books or things like that. I have a, I mean on topic, but off our line question actually, I have so many of your mini dough kits and the like the containers because I've had so many and same with your tackle box. So have you ever considered doing like a recycle program of some type with those? Or do you have like ideas of how people can repurpose them? Yeah, em it's funny, but I had somebody reach out to me to her kids had aged out of the Play-Doh and she was like, do you want these back? And I was like, you're sweet. I was like, I can't reuse them. But that's a great idea. But I, you know, I recycle the jars sometimes. And if I take dough out, you know, if it didn't sell or anything like that, and I'll put like gems in it, um you know, things like that, but they make great organizational boxes. I see You know, on Instagram, a lot of them will use them for bead storage, you know, and stuff like that. Even in car snacks, like the Latchboxes are really good for car snacks and stuff like that. Mm-hmm, a Snaggle box, yeah. Yeah. I think I have some that are being used as muffin liner organizers for minis and bigs. One's getting used for like food toothpicks, one's for hair. And then I have one more, one of the tackle box style ones that I have organizing. They have like these play cups. And so I stack them in towers in there and like remove the dividers. So I've been using mine, but I was curious if you had like an idea of something else to do with them. me an idea though, because Charlie's in cheerleading, my daughter this year, and they were like, well, we need a box for hair stuff and backpacks. And so I'm like, oh, the mini kits would be like a great, you know, hair box for, you know, hair ties, stuff like that, a little bit of gel. Yeah, that's what I'm using mine for. There you go. I think we'll do the same. uh Yeah. All right. Well, I'm on the right track with them then. Mm-hmm, for sure. That was so many things, Alex. You're like, what can I do with these? And then you rattle off like six things. You can recycle it and that's the beauty of it too. I mean if you're not using it you can totally just pop it in to recycle too. I know they're so nice though that I was like, kind of hate to get rid of them. Like, let me organize. too. I mean, we don't need those breaking. Right, they do hold up well. My kids chuck theirs into the cabinet. They're just like, my twins are really aggressive with stuff. Not my older ones, but the twins are. And they hold up really well, both the tackle box style one and the jars and the flip lid one. I don't know what you call that one. a must. They must stack. mean, that is like just mom code. They need to stack well, not fall over. That's good. how funny. Um, all right, Stacey, We asked you what topic you would talk about in a TED talk. Can you tell us a little bit of what that would be? Um, I have learned, um, from somebody, um, a mentor that life comes in seasons and it too shall pass. And, know, we get stuck in these like funks, I think sometimes and we're so hyper focused, you know, on what's going on. And then now with our kids and before we even realize we're going to be into a next season and another season after that. And it's just ever evolving and just knowing that. you know, we're not, it's not going to be like that forever. And the kids grow way faster, you know, than we've all expected or we've been told, you know, by parents like, you know, it goes by too fast. You're like, yeah, yeah, okay. And then you're like, my gosh, they were right. So yeah, those hard seasons, they don't last forever. You know, they really don't. Yeah, when you're in the thick of it, can be hard to remember that. uh hard. And then one day you'll look back and be like, okay, it wasn't that bad. And then you're onto the next one and the next one after that. So just slow down and enjoy it. know, and I mean, it does it, they don't last forever for sure, but it's hard when you're in the thick of it and, you know, to kind of look past where you are now for sure. Yeah. OK, so we talked a little bit about you having some upcoming markets. Do you have any specific ones you'd like to share with us that people can maybe pop in and say hi or check out your your kits in real life so that way they can really be personally sold if us talking about how much we buy your kits isn't enough? For sure. em My big market that's coming up is going to be Bernie Handmade Market on November 21st and 22nd. And then I also have the Gathered Market that I'm doing on December 7th at the Whitty Museum. So those are two great ones if you haven't checked it out. There's so many amazing local makers there. And it's just the best of the best with handmade stuff. So highly encourage everyone to go out and check those out. um There's stuff for everybody there. Yeah, we're bummed. We have to miss the market this season. We both are going to be out of town. Yeah, it's going to burn you in. I know it's always the Friday and Saturday before Thanksgiving, which is hard if you're traveling for the holidays and whatnot. Yeah. almost always gone during that period of time. I know, I think I've seen you guys there. um But the gathered is really good. A lot of the same makers from Bernie will be in gathered and some extras as well. So it's a good one too. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah. All right, Stacey, any new ideas or dreams that you have coming out for Do-Rific that you could share with us? There's so many. Like I said, there's so many kits that I've done, you know, locally that I have not put on my website yet. um So our first step is to get that new website up and running. And then we will put some new themes on there. There's uh ballerina themes, there's squishmallows. There's a couple new Tiny Tot kits that I have as well. um All the hot, yeah, more Tiny Tot kits. There's a Tiny Tot mermaid kit. that I've done. There's a Sesame Street one. uh I know all the things. I'm so behind in posting. I'm terrible at that. I need to be better. I need to be better at social media and like my website and posting stuff. uh to like be watching for when you're like it's on the website like bye I know I need to do it em and all the holiday stuff. So I have all my prototypes done. I will be snapping pictures this week and posting those on the website. So we have three mini kits coming out with all scented dough. Two Tiny Tot mini kits coming out with unscented dough. Cause sometimes the littles like to eat it. We don't want to, you know, it is taste safe, but we want to, you know, ensure that they're not just sitting there eating play dough out of the jar. And so the full-size Nativity Kit's coming back this year for the holidays. But I see the future, I would like to get more into the wholesale business. know, websites like FAIR, things like that. So I plan on, once PTA is over in May, for me, I plan on going the wholesale route and kind of really going strong with that and seeing where that takes us. Wow, that would be cool. growth, that's cool. Scary, yeah, so I'd like to, you know, kind of pursue that avenue. um Yeah. We'll tell where they can find you your website. So my website's dorifekids.com. I'm on Instagram and Facebook at Dorifekids. I usually post a little bit more on Instagram because the stories are more interactive and such than Facebook, but that's where you can buy my stuff or send me a message and for custom things and party favors, I do that over DM still. I love that party favor feature. That's brilliant. I know. to talk to customers about that because they can't straight order it off the website. So we get to chat about different creative outlets and stuff like that. So I enjoy the opportunity to talk to customers when I can. And connect, I can see that. Thank you. um Okay, well, we are going to wrap up a little bit. have a couple final questions for you. Just some fun ones. If a mom today is listening and has an idea for something creative, but feels scared to start, what would you say? Like, what would you be like? You just need to do this or like you need to just like change your mindset to this. Yeah, my advice is just to find one thing you're good at and do that. think we, even as moms try in my business as well, try to do so many different things. And I'm like, no, find one good thing and go with that. And you're not going to know unless you try. And all anybody can say is no, and just go for it. I mean, you don't know what you don't know. If you don't try, you're never going to know. I had no idea this would be what it is today when I started. I had no intentions of starting a business. um There's so many amazing people I've met along the way that have helped as well. think Babe Support Babes was a huge one. That actually pushed me to start my LLC um and go that route. You'll never know who you're going to meet along the way. m It's such a fun ride. Yeah, I love that advice. Just do it, basically. Yeah, I mean, know, like I tell, you know, my kids, I'm like, you don't know, like, you don't know if you don't ask, you know, all I can do is say no. and then, yeah, just reset and try again, for sure. Yeah. All right. Well, I think the key takeaway here is, know, play doesn't have to be fancy. It can be like, give it to them and let them do with it what they're going to do with it. You know, like I know Delilah uses her kits, which is Leisha's daughter, and builds dresses on Barbie dolls and makes nails for herself with Play-Doh. Like she does a lot of fun stuff that's like outside of it. Sorry, did you say nails? Yeah. uh And she'll like walk around with them. Yeah, she's really funny about it. all over the house. Well, too many of the kids toys, they're expensive and they'd have the time rather play in the box they come with, but so many toys just have one purpose and they're made to be played with in a very specific way. And that's the beauty, you know, with Play Doh Sensory Kits. People are like, what do they do with it? Anything they want to do with it. Just open it and watch them. Go drink your hot coffee. Go watch the news, you know, enjoy eating while your kids play. yeah, you can always tell when there's like a mom behind a product. feel like, like you just said, so many things are, that's one use, that's it. And then it gets retired so quickly because they get bored of it. And you're like, no, this is open-ended play. They can do whatever they want. You have stackable containers. Like you are like the mom. Yeah. And I'm like, just throw them in the Ziploc bags, put them back in the kit, you know. And um if you leave the dough out, that's okay. It'll leave back together, you know, even after 24 hours. The being left out is not going to dry out, you know. And those wonderful yellow containers, you know, that Play-Doh comes in for a dollar at the store. It's great until there's Play-Doh up around the room, you know, and they don't seal anymore and they all dry out. gets thrown in the trash. oh your Play-Doh honestly is amazing because my kids leave it out on the table and I'll be like, okay, I'll pick it up later. And it just always gets pushed down the list. And then I'll come back to it I'm like, why is this still like so soft? I know I need to do a reel because I've left them out on purpose to see you know 24 hours later and there's gonna be some white salt crystals but you can need that right back together and you know minimizes waste for sure yeah for sure let them mix the colors let them make a mess you know I tell moms my favorite thing is get a cookie sheet or a set have a set play-doh area you know in your house and let the kids just play you can only play with play-doh here because people are like I hate play-doh I hate I hate slime more than Play-Doh. Play-Doh is not, you know, does not stick to every single surface like slime does. um But just have a set Play-Doh area and let them explore. And if it gets on the floor, let it dry up and vacuum it up. Mm-hmm. I do that often. My twins tear it apart into like little pieces, you know, and like confetti it. Oh gosh. But they have to do that. Like let them be kids. Let them play. Let them make messes. uh You know, let them be little and explore. It does so much better, you know, for the kids and developmental wise and being on a screen all day long. They're on screens all day long at school, you know. um Just, it's fun to give them the creative outlet for sure. Yeah. All right, well I have one final little poll that I just thought of while you were talking about that. We're each gonna take a turn. Do we mix Play-Doh colors or not? We in general, your kids, do you allow it? Do your kids like it, not like it? Alex, you go first. All right. So with my first, my it's going to be like an extended answer because of course it is. So with my oldest, I was very like, we don't mix our play dough. This was before we had to terrific kit. like my daughter's first kit was like those mini play-doh ones and they were like, we're all the colors, you know, like 36 of them. Um, I was like, we don't mix them. So then when she would mix them, I'd be like, make an extra. So the mixed ones obviously only child at that point. And I was able to be like super on her and paying attention. And then I had the twins. And Play-Doh became even more important for my oldest, especially because it gave me time to take care of stuff that I needed to do with my two newborn twins. And she had a good, safe activity to do. And I had to let go a little, which is hard for me. So yes, we mix dough now. But I will say that a lot of your kits, the colors, when they get mixed, it's not like they just turn into brown necessarily. They marble more than anything. Mm-hmm. so it actually ends up looking pretty. If I can get behind it. intentional. Because I'm like you, I'm very OCD. mean, I love each, they never get put back, you know, how I originally, you know, make them like even the sensory items. And that's okay. I flirted to let go as well. uh But it's in my mindset when I put colors together, like, what are we going to get? Because you know, inevitably, they are going to mix it together. Mm-hmm. So it will make a not so brown. That's my goal. Not so brown dough. it's so brown. So Stacey, you don't love to mix them either, but you've put purpose behind if people want to, it won't turn. That's really good. does the swirl does are fun to make, uh you know, and some of the kids and party favors and I intentionally put colors together. So when they it is matched together, because it will be um it doesn't make a terrible you know, it's a pretty new color. um But let it mix it. I mean, even the primary dose that that I saw, that's what I target, you know, it's a first, you know, item for people, their babies, you know, one and up. Get them some primary colors, let them mix them together and see what colors they get when they mix yellow and green together, know, and red and yellow and all that fun stuff. They learn by doing that. Well, my kids are probably... My kids are the odd ones out. They... I don't feel like I ever told them that they didn't... They shouldn't mix colors just because of me, because I also hate mixing. But they... If Alex's girls come over and mix the Play-Doh, they get so upset. And I've had... Yeah, I've had to like coach them and be like, well, it is okay. Like, it doesn't ruin it, you know, but they... That's a no. They do not like mixing colors. little personalities come out, you know, and what they do with Play-Doh and not do. It's funny. I actually think your kids have specific play to for the kids. My kids know Logan won't mix better now, but the twins do so they're like well you can play with this one because it's already mixed. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on stage. is a great time that comes with plug your website. your Instagram. Check you out, see what everything's about. I know if they follow us, we share a lot about Norrific and we will be coming up into the holiday season because we think it is a fantastic gift for families to have, grandparents to gift, um gift cards, like whatever it is, like you have to have some dough kits.% again like we did last year that was super fun. Love to do that with you guys. Yeah, for sure. All right. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thanks y'all, it was fun. Thank you.