Two for the Win
Mike is a U.S. Navy Veteran and Bryan has more than a decade of civil service experience. Together, these blue collar guys dissect the latest sports headlines and events.
Two for the Win
Two For The Win - S2.44 - Playoff Time For America's Fav Pastime, College Vs NFL, Welcome To Fall!
A classy goodbye on the mound, a finals showdown on the hardwood, and a football weekend that gave us everything from a baffling tie to a brutal injury—this one had range. We open with the Braves’ thoughtful nod to Charlie Morton, then roll straight into a charged October slate where small decisions swung big outcomes: a pitch count debate in Yankees–Red Sox, the Dodgers’ explosive bats masked by late-inning unease, and a Tigers–Guardians series that turned on a razor-thin review before erupting in a five-run eighth.
We pivot to the WNBA, where the Las Vegas Aces and Phoenix Mercury earned their spots the hard way—overtime grit, upset fuel, and defensive buy-in. It’s a matchup rich with experience and counterpunching styles, the kind of series that rewards second-side actions and late-game composure. A quick NBA note adds a spark: Seth joins Steph in Golden State, a shooting synergy that could reinvent space and pace for one of the league’s smartest systems.
College football took a blowtorch to assumptions. Virginia over FSU, Ole Miss over LSU, Alabama toppling Georgia—October is where reputations get retested. We go deep on what separates Saturdays from Sundays now that NIL has reshaped the landscape, challenging old narratives about “passion” while acknowledging the NFL’s tighter windows and merciless precision. Then to the pros: a Packers–Cowboys tie begging for an overtime rethink, rookies like Jackson Dart and Cam Skatteboo showing teeth, and Dylan Gabriel stepping into a baptism against a top defense. The heaviest note: Tyreek Hill’s knee injury and what it means for Miami’s identity, the cap, and the long road back.
We close by circling the week ahead: Eagles–Broncos as a live-wire test, Jaguars–Chiefs as a measuring stick for both sides, and Seattle’s front posing problems for Tampa Bay. Depth wins October—on the diamond, court, and gridiron. Subscribe, share with a friend who lives for sports nuance, and tell us: should ties be banned, and who’s your shock pick to steal a playoff series?
October first, twenty twenty-five. Welcome back everybody once again for another episode of Sports Talk and our first episode in the true fall-time season. It is officially scary season, Mike. What we got going on tonight?
SPEAKER_03:Well, with the baseball season ending, that means we have baseball playoffs. And I'm so excited for some baseball playoffs, man. I love the playoffs. Playoffs? Yeah, yeah. And that's not the only playoffs. We got the WNBA doing its thing. And a little thing called football. Fool's ball? Yeah, we all love some football on this show.
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SPEAKER_03:Like I said, baseball season ended, and it ended this past Sunday. But there was a thing that happened in one of the games that may have gone overlooked by most most fans, but it kind of shows where some organizations do have some class and do have some care for their players and former players. So recently, uh last Sunday, like I said, uh the Braves they brought back uh a longtime player of theirs, Charlie Morton. Uh he started his career with the Braves, but was traded to the Pirates many years ago. And his career kind of took off when he wound up going to the Houston Astros, won a bunch with them, went over to the Rays, won a bunch with them, and then came back to the Braves. But this past season he was a free agent and wasn't doing so hot, and he's he's 41 years old, so it's kind of like last go round. So the Braves brought him back just for this one game, and they let him start out the game pitching it uh, I think it was one and uh two-thirds innings just to start it out and kind of have a farewell moment. And he did okay. He got a strikeout, didn't didn't really allow any any runs or anything, and then Chris Sale took over. So it was kind of a way for him to say goodbye to baseball and bye to his fans because his his career is probably over. And you know, most people they don't see this unless you're possibly a fan of the team or a fan of the player, but it's it's a it's a classy way to go out, and you know, even his his uh teammate said that you know he's really thinks it's a cool moment in Chris Hill. He was like really impressed that they did that for him, and he was actually the one that preceded him in pitching. So nice thing by them. Nice, nice.
SPEAKER_05:He will be missed. The baseball gods will look favorably upon your career.
SPEAKER_03:But he's not the only one the Braves are gonna miss. Uh recently it was announced that uh their manager, Brian Snicker, who's a baseball lifer, he's spent his entire career in the Braves organization working his way up from the minors and uh becoming the manager of the Braves. He's calling it uh a career as far as being a manager, and he's stepping down and going more into an advisory role this next season.
SPEAKER_05:So and maybe taking on a uh uh sponsorship with Snickerdoodle?
SPEAKER_03:No. Damn. I thought I had one. No, not at all. I thought I had one there. But to hit you with some more positivity and good news. I like being hit. Says all kinds of weird things about you, man. Remember last week I had mentioned that when Cal Raleigh hit his 60th home run, a fan grabbed the ball and gave the ball to a kid, knowing that it's the 60th home run. Yep.
SPEAKER_05:They did the reverse of the Karen thing.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So Cal did right by him and did a meet and greet and came with gifts and stuff, and you know, thanked the fan for what he did because it was a kind of a selfless act, and he he he appreciated it, and you know, still hooked him up even though he wasn't the one with the ball. So that was really cool to see of Cal and of the fan, and that the fan got some recognition for being a good good dude, you know. But speaking of other good dudes, good news, Albert Puholtz. Albert Puholtz. He's had a great career. He's no longer playing, he's been managing for other teams, but not really in baseball necessarily in the major leagues, that might not be a problem anymore. Supposedly, he's in the running to become the manager of the Angels, his former team. He was, you know, longtime Cardinal, went to the Angels, played there for the Hey, throw your name in the hat, bro. Hey, if you can get it, get it. I think that would be great for them, honestly. I do too. Because if you can bring in a name like that and he he shows that he can really manage the team in a good way, because the Angels were decent this year. They weren't horrible like they've been in years past. They just need some things kind of come together.
SPEAKER_05:Tell us how you really feel.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they're a good team and they just need some help. But teams that don't need any help are the ones that are in the playoffs, baseball playoffs literally started yesterday. The Rockies. No, sir. Not even close.
SPEAKER_05:No, they need no, they need a lot of help.
SPEAKER_03:I think that was the dead last team. They actually acquired their players.
SPEAKER_05:They're seeking more help. Yeah. In fact, they need less help now that they've let their manager go.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, I digress. We'll roll into that. Yeah, they let their manager go because of how bad they were. Anyway, moving on to the playoffs. The playoff bracket is is set, and teams faced off yesterday uh to start off the brackets. The first first couple series, it's best of three. So you really want to get out hot and win your first game. And first a few teams that came true, you know. Uh in the Tigers and Guardians series, the Tigers came away with a two to one win with a good performance out of their star pitcher Scoobyl. Scoobyl pitched uh he pitched well. He got 14 strikeouts in that game, and really was the deciding factor in that game. It was it was a really tight contest.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. And that game's series is tied up 1-1 right now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, beat me to it. They played earlier, and uh obviously you know the outcome already. Because somebody told you. He stopped a a ball hit at him at 102 mile an hour on a dive and threw it threw it to first base without skipping a beat. And he also fielded a ball floating just kind of over shortstop back into center center left center field, floated back, got it, threw it into home play to prevent a runner from scoring. So he was a big, big contributor in the win. But that's not to take anything away from Suzuki, who hit a home run, or take anything away from Carson Kelly, who the very next batter after Suzuki hit a home run as well, to help put the Cubs up two to one on the uh on the Padres, they wound up winning that game game with a a 3-1 score thanks to those to those home runs and a crucial crucial uh sacrifice hit later on in the game. But I think everybody who loves baseball loves watching Red Sox Yankees.
SPEAKER_05:Red Sox Yanks.
SPEAKER_03:Look, Red Sox Yankees is a classic. Everybody loves watching these two teams go at it because there's no love loss between these teams.
SPEAKER_05:And the Sox starting out strong leading that series.
SPEAKER_03:Again, getting to it before I have a chance to lead into it.
SPEAKER_05:Sorry, I'm just reading the I'm just reading the screen. I thought that's don't read the screen.
SPEAKER_03:Ignore the screen. Okay. Ignore the screen.
SPEAKER_05:I thought that's how it worked. You read the screen.
SPEAKER_03:Well, see, there's a there's a problem. So the Yanks, they had it, they had it going pretty good in the beginning by uh Anthony Volpe hitting a home run, putting them up. And they were doing well. They had Max Fried out there, he was doing his thing, he was up to a hundred pitches, and then he gets pulled. I think it was in the sixth inning.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You know, he had a hundred pitches, he's in the sixth inning. I guess he he reached his pitch limit and they decided to pull him. Um, and it's brought a lot of uh lot of questions against their their manager, Aaron Boone, because they're like, Why did you pull him? If he's doing well, why did you pull him? Hate and discontent. Look, a manager, they're gonna they're gonna have their reasons, whether it's an analytical reason or it's a reason that they're trying to, you know, he has a pitch limit, we gotta pull him. And he explained, he said, look, he was a little wild on some of his pitches, you know, he was efficient and and you know, getting through his innings and not giving up runs. But as soon as they pulled him out, Luke Weaver gave up some run runs to Boston, but more so you gotta give a little little nod to Sogard, who in the top of the seventh, he legs out what looked to be a single, he legs it out into a double by just pure hustle. He never stopped running, got to second base, and that was crucial because the very next batter and uh the very next batter hits a single to bring in both runs, giving them the lead. But not to be outdone, uh the starting pitcher for for the Red Sox, uh Crockett, he had pitched 117 pitches in his outing for for the Red Sox, which is a feat that has not been done since Steven Strasberg in 2019. So not many guys go long. So again, this may lead to Aaron Boone. Like you didn't exactly you're going by the book, yeah, but because Aaron Boone has made some questionable calls in the past, he's kind of getting a lot of heat. And plus, it's New York media. New York media always blows up over things.
SPEAKER_05:So it's New Ork.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, and another notable thing in this game is Alexander uh Alex Bregman. Sorry for my stumble there. Alex Bregman, it's his 100th game played in the postseason, which is not a feat that most players get to. So that's a that's a tip of the cap for him. But he came up with a crucial uh run later in the game to kind of give him a little bit more of a lead of a 3-1 in the top of the ninth. Always need that little assurance run. Hopefully you can get more than that. But he had an RBI double late in the game to assist them in getting this win. But the biggest contributor, Raldus Chapman. That dude, he put a new definition on closer and ice in his veins. That guy came in. Look, he comes in, bases, bases are loaded. Bases loaded. He strikes out a batter, then they get a pop-up, you know, lazy little flyball, doesn't really do much, and then he strikes out the next batter to win the game for the Red Sox to give him the lead in the series, and which by the way, the game is going on right now between Boston and New York, which it's tied 2-2 in the third. That's right.
SPEAKER_05:But by the time you hear this episode, you'll already know the results.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you'll already know the results, but we we can't we can't be out. You'll already know. You'll already know. That's but let's lead into the Reds and the Reds and the uh Dodgers and see what happened there.
SPEAKER_05:Dodges at a splitter.
SPEAKER_00:Swang and a line drive, ripped, right field, back on! Lead off Homer! Johey, oh Johnny, a low liner over the right field fence. And just like that, the Dodgers make a 1-0 lead. Johey explodes immediately.
SPEAKER_03:Dang. That's the very first batter of the game where the re with the Reds going against the Dodgers, and it didn't get any better. The Reds, the Reds didn't get any better off of that because Shohe, two home runs in the night. But his teammate, Teoscar Hernandez, two home runs on the night. And not to, you know, gloss over their pitcher, their pitcher, Blake Snell, he did well well in the game as well as well. Yeah. You know, he he pitched deep into the game, and they're gonna have to kind of rely on that. They need they need to have their starting pitching going deep into games. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:What was that score on that on that one?
SPEAKER_03:The final score in that first game, first game with the Reds was Dodgers 10 10 and the Reds five. Oh Lord. And the reason I say they're gonna need their starting pitcher to go deep, it's been proven time and time again that the rely the relievers for the Dodgers are not as reliable as we thought. Like they're they've just been giving up runs late in games, and because of the fact that the Dodgers can score at will at times, it's kind of bailed them out. So they really need to rely on their pitchers to go deep and keep them in games, especially as we get further into the postseason and they start having tougher matchups. So they're really gonna have to rely on starting pitching being good because they're not gonna get it out of their pen. Their pen just has not shown that they can keep up and hold games, and that's gonna be a crucial thing as we go down the stretch, which is why I really didn't pick them as you know, possibly going to the World Series.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah. It seems as though the high chance low-hanging fruit could be the first to drop.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't know about the Dodgers being dropped first. I think really the Reds would be the first ones dropped. Well, that's what I was Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah. I misunderstood you. But yeah, it yeah, it's definitely gonna be Reds getting bumped out, you know, because uh because Showy. Well, because the whole the whole Dodger team. The whole Dodger team is just loaded. I mean, everybody knows they cheat out, you know, to get there. 6'7, what? Sorry, I just thought I'd try that out. But I gotta mention the Cleveland game that happened earlier today. So the Cleveland game, uh again, it's the second game in the series between Cleveland and the Tigers. And Cleveland, they needed this win because you know the you you it's a best of three series. So if Tigers won, it's over. But they had a play in the game earlier today that was just wild. Just wild. And I'm gonna cue up this audio once I can get this thing to work right.
SPEAKER_04:S T U V. W. I don't know, sir.
SPEAKER_03:X. Wow. Anyway, having some audio difficulties. We'll just skip over that, and I'll just tell you what happened.
SPEAKER_05:So hey, it'd be like that sometimes. It'd be like that sometimes. I tried to buy up. I tried to buy up some time, but two to one. Oh, there it is.
SPEAKER_01:Very close play at third, and the Guardians want a challenge. He may be looking at a couple of different things here. The play at third, if McKinstreet's out, and the call's reversed there. Did Dingler cross home plate before the out?
SPEAKER_00:Cleveland is challenging the safe call at third base.
SPEAKER_01:So they're gonna start with that. The safe call at third. I think if he's out at third, it is really close as to whether Dingler made it. And Dingler looked back after he crossed home plate. Okay. As if he might have thought maybe I didn't get there before that play at third. So we'll see.
SPEAKER_00:The call on the field is overturned. The runner is out at third base.
SPEAKER_05:This was just a wild play scenario to me.
SPEAKER_03:So you cut him off there, but he uh the umpire was saying because the out happened at third base and there was two outs, and the runner at third got tagged out, because the base runner did not cross home plate, he did not uh count as an official score. So it kept the game one-one. So kudos to their outfielder making a heck of a throw to third base and getting getting the runner out before they could get that extra run, keeping the game tied one-one. But that's not all they had for good plays, man. They busted out a five-run eighth inning to really turn up the scoring and put them ahead, head. They man, they just they went ahead and said, This is our game. Put five runs up in the eighth to take over the game and tie this series up at one-one, which you alluded to earlier. But so next game wins. So, I mean, flip a coin at this point. Next game advances to Seattle. Hey, yeah. Your win for winning that series is go play Seattle.
SPEAKER_05:So whoever wins between the Padres and the Cubs is in for a wild night because they got the number one ranked Brewers up next.
SPEAKER_03:Um yeah, and and that's no picnic because the Brewers have been a really good ball club all season, had the best record.
SPEAKER_05:Like you say, I think the Dodgers are gonna close out the Reds. That's gonna be a fireworks match between them and the Phillies there in the second round.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, and it's it's kind of wild that it was gonna wind up that way. Yeah, it's one of the other, because both these teams before the season were kind of like you know looked at as you know, league contenders to possibly go as the NL representation in the World Series. And so both of these teams are gonna go against each other in the second round, and it's like, oh man, they're gonna one of them, we're gonna get fireworks early here.
SPEAKER_05:Uh but I I expect the Padres to walk into the semifinals against whoever is gonna come out on top of that one. So we're in, at least on the NL side, a lot of fireworks all the way through to the championship here.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, and let's let's not forget Boston and New York, whoever wins that has to go against the Blue Jays.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and they're another forwardable team, but they're four and five going up against number one. I mean, but they're good teams in their own right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh, and let's not forget it's AL East, so they're all AL East teams, so yeah, they know each other.
SPEAKER_05:Have a little division showdown out there. So uh I think we're in for a lot of good baseball all the way into the World Series.
SPEAKER_03:So oh, then this is the time. Like this this is where players become stars. You know, you're gonna have those players where it's like, wait, who's that?
SPEAKER_02:Who made that catch?
SPEAKER_05:You're a shooter. Who at their home star coming from afar? Is that how you sing it? I know we know this song. No, sir.
SPEAKER_03:I'm familiar with what you're trying to sing, but I'm not familiar with the words.
SPEAKER_05:I know our listeners know this song. Do not make me that old. Oh, good lord.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not making you anything. I'm just merely laughing at your reference.
SPEAKER_05:Anyway, let's rock and roll here. That's baseball for you. And an exciting time to be a baseball fan at that. Jumping on over, we're just gonna check in with the WNBA here. They're in the heat of playoffs. Actually, they're uh getting ready to gear up for finals here. Looks like it's gonna be Mercury and the Aces going head to head. Uh Aces edged out the fever in an overtime battle against the and I gotta give it to the fever, you know, number six going against number two there, uh, holding their own, but still coming up short.
SPEAKER_03:I seriously have to give major, major props to the fever and and to their to their uh coach because this team was decimated by injuries. Yeah. And they still got to the playoffs, still made it to the next round, and darn near almost made it to the finals because they took it it took a you know 3-2 series to to you know allow the the Vegas Aces to move along. Like it was no cakewalk. Like they did, they didn't just go into the second round and and fold up, you know. So that that's gotta be saying something.
SPEAKER_05:And they went five rounds, Las Vegas locked it up three to two, and then Phoenix, you know, locking it out three to one over the Lynx. By the way, that's a huge win uh for Phoenix up there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, especially, dude. I thought the Lynx were gonna just coast their way into the finals. Nope.
SPEAKER_05:Yep, I was so wrong on that. And we get the WNBA uh championship finals on October 3rd. The series game one begins. Logs Las Vegas Aces, Phoenix Mercury, uh, you know, the two and the four seed in the entire bracket going head to head. So I think this is gonna be a hell of a matchup here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I'm I'm pulling for the aces. I think they're gonna they they just have more to me, they've they've had more playoff experience.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I'm pulling, I'm pulling, I'm pulling for the aces myself, but I mean we've seen upsets all the way through this bracket. So, you know, we'll see what see what comes of it here. And then just a little bit over on the NBA side, they're gearing up their season. They get a long preseason ahead of them. Uh Seth Curry is joining his brother on the Warriors. You're gonna see these two sharpshooting athletes, both good in their own right, playing side by side this coming season. After, you know, several years, obviously, of carving their own paths through the NBA. Uh, so I think that's exciting for them. Whenever you get to play with a family member uh in a professional sport, I feel like that now they're brothers, but I feel like this is like truly a type of passing the torch type of moment, right?
SPEAKER_03:Well, it's happened before. I mean, you had Billy Ripken and Cal Ripkin playing together. You've had yeah Marcus Giles and Brian Giles playing together. I mean, you you've had this where uh siblings have played together on teams before. Yeah, and I I think that's exciting for them.
SPEAKER_05:Um, and I can't wait to see this team go um as far as they go. Of course, we've got like I said, we got the preseason coming up and the international games and whatnot. So I think that's gonna be great, but we'll move right along past that. And Mike, let's talk some college football, some foosball.
SPEAKER_03:Man, college football has not been disappointing. It is it's like anytime you think you know how these games are gonna go, just no, you don't. You don't. Because one game in particular, the Florida State Seminoles, they've been great this year. They're a ranked team, they're eight, and they're going against Virginia, an unranked team, and they lose.
SPEAKER_05:I and they not only lose, Virginia was that they were pretty well in control of that game, too. I mean, FSU was scoring, but I watched this one as well as the Alabama game, and we'll get down to Alabama in a minute, but you know, Virginia taking over FSU like that, a number eight ranked team. Virginia, UVA is not ranked.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they after that they might be. They might be. I mean, the final score in that game was 46 to 38. So it was it wasn't like much defense was being played on that field, you know, with a score like that.
SPEAKER_05:It seemed like a first to the finish is the winner type situation.
SPEAKER_03:Last to have the ball. But then, you know, I mean, it just there were so many upsets. I mean, you had Arizona State, Arizona TCU. That was another one. I almost forgot about them. You know, and then I mean, you had some games that were kind of it made sense. I mean, Ohio State being number one going against Washington.
SPEAKER_05:Are we even gonna talk about this match? No.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, look, the score final score was 24-6, so they had that game handily in their advantage. They weren't they were not gonna lose to Washington. And then, you know, Oregon handing an L to Penn State there. Well, that that's crucial because Oregon went to Penn State for this game. There was a wideout game, too. So you it's not like they had Penn State come to them, it was the other way around. And the final score being 30 to 24, it was a it was a tightly contested matchup. It wasn't like it was just a oh, you know, blowout win. Yep.
SPEAKER_05:And then uh Ole Miss taking over LSU, 13 ranked Ole Miss, beating number four ranked LSU. That's kind of a big deal to me, too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it kind of it does a couple things because LSU at the beginning of of the season or the start of the college season, LSU has been looked at like their contender. You know, they've had that crucial win over Clemson, and but Clemson has not looked that great. So it's like, okay, big deal. But then they go and lose to a number 13 Old Miss team, you know, 24 to 19. I mean, it wasn't like they got their their doors blown off, but it's like, okay, yeah, I mean, come on, guys. You know, like this is a this is one of those like rivalry games, you know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it was. And then, you know, another upside game, number 17 Alabama, who we're even surprised is ranked right now at this point, uh beating number five ranked Georgia.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and the funny part about this is everybody's been, you know, well, Alabama fans, I should say. I say everybody. Alabama fans. Bam, bam. Alabama fans have not been happy with their coach, and they've been calling for him to get fired because he's not winning like Saban. They're like, we'll gladly pay to get rid of him. We'll get rid of him. We want Saban. Bring Saban back. Saban don't want to come back. Yeah, stop asking. Yeah, not with the NIL around. Look, he's got a cushy analyst job, he makes more than enough money, has more time with his his wife, and he don't need it. Right? He doesn't need it. He walked away for a reason, people. He ain't coming back. Grandma can't cook no more.
SPEAKER_05:It's time to just accept your lot in life. What else we got? What other upsets we got down here? Not too much in the way of ranked versus unranked.
SPEAKER_03:Well, a lot of a lot of games went the way you expected. You know, ranked Indiana at number 11 beat Iowa 20 to 15. So Iowa almost came up with an upset there. Arizona falling to Iowa State, who's ranked number 14. And uh Tennessee, who's ranked 15, beating Mississippi State. So Dak will probably cry over the Mississippi State loss. Wake Forest keeping it close. Yeah, Wake Forest was trying. They didn't beat George. Georgia Tech, number 16 ranked Georgia Tech now 5-0.
SPEAKER_04:Nope.
SPEAKER_03:But Vanderbilt putting up 55.
SPEAKER_05:Putting a hurting on Utah. Utah didn't even score in the third quarter. Vanderbilt put up 17 just in that quarter alone. Yeah, and and Vanderbilt, by the way, is only ranked 18, but they're 5-0. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, most people know them for baseball more than they do football. Well, that might change here soon. Yeah, it might. Just might. And how about Notre Dame. Notre Dame. Notre Dame coming alive again against Arkansas. Well, they better after last week's game. Well, they put up 56, 56 on Arkansas, and they had 42 points before half. Yeah. I was watching this game, and I turned it. I'm not gonna lie, I turned it off at halftime. I was like, there is no way. There is no way they're coming back.
SPEAKER_05:If you look at the points breakdown, Notre Dame, they showed up to work on time, and then they coasted out through the end of the day there. Yeah, it was probably backups the rest of the way. Arkansas is like that half-asleep employee that showed up but never really showed up. He's just there in body. Came in hung over. He just came in hung over. And then BYU Colorado. Speaking of Colorado, uh, I'm glad we brought on to them. Uh Deion Sanders might be a leading candidate to take over the Arkansas program. Uh I don't know. I've heard that they are eyeing him, and that would be a step up, you know, from Colorado's level up to the next level of college ball. So I'm interested to hear more on that.
SPEAKER_03:I man, I just don't know. I mean, like Dion, his system right now with Colorado, they're only two and three. They're not even ranked. And, you know, this is after he's lost some of his best players to the NFL. So I don't I mean, is it fool school? You know, that they they wound up winning the way they did, or you know, did it have to do with his players, did it have to do with his coaching? You know, it's it it's kind of hard to t hard to tell, man. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you gotta it takes a while to build a program, but you lose a couple players, you don't want to see you don't want to see it like ultimately wind up with their they're not winning when their players leave.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, speaking of gearing up, navy taking out rice, we got the Navy Army game coming up.
SPEAKER_03:At some point, there's always an Army Navy game. Yeah. I thought it was playing up soon. I just like November, you know, as a as a Navy vet.
SPEAKER_05:Navy, by the way, is undefeated. Okay, four and oh and three and oh in the division. So there the Navy is Navy football is rocking right now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I gotta, I I gotta, you know, had to stop by that and just say something. Just yeah, just because I mean, like, it's we're never we're never really up there. Ye old Navy head. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Real quick.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05:That's fine.
SPEAKER_03:But moving ahead uh into next week, let's see, let's see where some of these matchups are leading.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, who are we looking at here? I haven't even seen the agenda for this coming week, so I'm shooting from the hip here, y'all. Yeah, I see one already I like UNC and Clemson.
SPEAKER_03:UNC and Clemson, okay. I mean, that might be a decent matchup for for Belichick to finally, you know, show something against an opponent who some consider a decent college. Oh, there's like Clemson has not been great this year.
SPEAKER_05:There's like a class action lawsuit over them hiring him right now. Uh a group that's closely tied to the university. I forget their name. Uh they're not happy that the board tends to handle uh they called it topics that could significantly impact the campus. Uh they considered Bill Belichick hiring one of these. They were not happy that they hired Bill Belichick for that coaching job. And this group has filed is getting ready to file class action lawsuit against the university for that. So we'll see if Chapel Bill remains Chapel Bill.
SPEAKER_03:We have the Battle of Florida this next uh week coming up where we have Miami going against Florida State. I'm not gonna lie, I'm I'm pulling for Miami on this one. Number three, Miami against 18 hurricane.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I didn't see the ratings until a second ago, but I'm pulling for the hurricanes.
SPEAKER_03:And I saw another one that was that was an interesting game. Where did it go? Well, while you're looking for that. While I'm looking for that, because I I'm an idiot and move off of something. Nonsense, sir. The world's an idiot. So Bama and Vanderbilt are gonna go against each other. Bama ranked number 10 right now, and Vanderbilt ranked number 16.
SPEAKER_05:But Vanderbilt's undefeated, and Alabama has one loss. I like, you know, this is a tough call, but I like Vanderbilt for the upset here.
SPEAKER_03:I do too. I really do. But since we alluded to the rankings, why don't we just go down the rankings and foreshadowed top 10 are?
SPEAKER_05:We foreshadowed the rankings in our literature. So starting at number 10. Number 10, Alabama, speak of the devil. Number nine, Texas. By the way, this is AP's top 25, which is really our top 10 for AP. We're just starting 10 and going up. But number eight, Indiana. At number seven, Penn State. Number six, Texas AM. At number five, Oklahoma. Oklahoma, where the sun goes. Anyway, sorry. Number four, we got Ole Miss.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, see that? Ole Miss with that victory, climbed up the rankings there. Jumped into the top five. And as we alluded to earlier, number three is Miami.
SPEAKER_05:They actually, it says they came up nine ranks.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Miami, and then number two, Oregon. And of course, number one, Ohio State. And as we alluded to earlier, with that upset that Arizona State has finally cracked into the ranking at 25. You know, we had a couple of teams that made their way into the rankings. Virginia, with their win, cracked in at 24, and BYU is in there at 23.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So they have been shaking it up. Like some teams have been being bumped out.
SPEAKER_05:And Notre Dame falling, you know, well, they get they gained a position, but they're sitting down at 21 right now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, they starting out the season not really winning any games. That doesn't help your ranking status.
SPEAKER_05:I wouldn't say it does either, Mike. But before we jump too far ahead here, I just have one last question for you, okay?
SPEAKER_04:For sure.
SPEAKER_05:A lot of people love college football, but they're not big fans of the NFL. A lot of people love the NFL and don't know a damn thing about college football. And it's so true because college football folks seem to know a lot about NFL, but a lot of NFL exclusive fans don't seem to know much about college as a trend I've noticed. But anyway, which game do you I hear a lot of chatter here, especially talking to other, you know, football fans and enthusiasts. Uh which game do you think is better? Do you like the college game better or you like the NFL game better? They seem to both have their ups and downs and the same arguments regardless of who you're talking to.
SPEAKER_03:There was one argument I used to hear all the time, and I thought it was the dumbest argument that most people would give to me about whether or not college or the NFL was better. And a lot of times people were saying, Oh, I like college, you know, because the players they want it more. They want it more. Forget that they're not they're not getting paid those those big bloated salaries and stuff. And I think that's a good thing. And and here's here's here's the problem I had with them saying that. Because they would rather the colleges get all that money and all that name, image, and likeness for years. They liked that better than those players getting money or those players getting in trouble because a coach bought them a cheeseburger. You know, like the whole system of college for the players was it wasn't right. Right. It was not right. I mean, they had to do those backdoor deals. They had to do those, you know, come to my auto dealership and here's a car, you know, for signing a couple autographs, you know.
SPEAKER_05:The man with the bag after the game.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, the the bag man that's gonna be. Yeah, just a duffel bag of money at your doorstep, you know, you know, or surprisingly, this is so nice. Surprisingly, your your aunt or uncle or your dad or your mom got a uh high-ranking position at the college, you know, and getting paid tons of money through the college and filtering the money down to you. Man, like college was so just screwed up when it came to the players. Yeah. And now that the players are getting some and getting theirs, yeah, it's like the institution itself is getting all in its feelings, like, oh, you no, wait, you can't give players money, why not?
SPEAKER_05:Well, the NIL NIL standards just blew the doors off of whatever they were doing before. It just literally just made it legal.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, but they're gonna they're gonna get mad that NFL players are paid so much money. It's like, hold up, hold up. You're mad that NFL players make a ton of money, right? Well, okay, then why do you watch movies? Why do you watch TV series? Those actors get paid millions for six months' worth of work and and then they move on to the next project. And not to mention, all they have to do is go hold up a thing of diet of Diet Coke or Dr. Pepper and be like, I drink Diet Coke or Dr. Pepper, and they get millions for it. But that athlete who possibly could get injured and have a life-altering injury, yeah, he shouldn't make a ton of money. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Well, sure. Well, not just about the money, and a lot of you're right, a lot of people claim there's more quote passion in the college game. I don't agree with that at all, especially now in the age of the NIL. Because by the time, especially these big name players in college, by the time they get out of college and get into the NFL, they've already made money.
SPEAKER_03:What's up? I got a comment on your passion. If they're so passionate, why did so many players over the last 10 years sit out bowl games? And look at the transfer portal. If they're so passionate, why are they all switching schools? No, I I want you to answer my question. Why did so many players sit out bowl games? This is like a bad dad joke. No, no, seriously. No, it's not a bad dad joke. I'm like, dad joke. Serious. I'm asking the question. Why would they sit out bowl games? If they are so passionate, why would they sit out bowl games?
SPEAKER_05:Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:They set out bowl games because they wanted to get drafted higher and didn't want to risk getting injured. Yep. They get drafted higher, they make more money. That's all it is. They're passionate because they're trying to put up tape to get to the next level. And once they've reached that point, that so-called passion is gone. I'm not saying that people don't have good college careers and do love their schools and do play with a certain amount of passion, but also keep in mind, yeah, these are young players, these are young men. No, they're not quite to where the NFL is where you have a mix of young and old, where these guys have had a career, they have families, they have things outside of football. So I'm not saying they're not passionate, but their their stage in life is different than a you know, 18 or 19-year-old who just got out of their parents' house and is on a college campus playing ball.
SPEAKER_05:And you know, just to add to that, um, that was another thing, the that difference age and athleticism as well. I think that's another reason a lot of people like college. First of all, the competition is much more saturated. It's much more far. You have so many college teams, and they they all seem to be doing different things. But the other thing is the college game does move faster because the players are moving faster because they're younger. The c the NFL level tends to slow down a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think it's as slow as you think. The the the pace of the game at the NFL level is definitely quicker.
SPEAKER_05:And and the pace of the game is quicker, but the game overall moves slower.
SPEAKER_03:There's a difference between NFL open and college open. College open, you see a guy, he's a guy at like seven yards separation. It's like, oh, easy throw. Let me throw that. Yeah, you don't see that in the NFL. You don't see that in the NFL. You gotta throw with anticipation and timing. Plus, you gotta keep in mind that when you get to the NFL, you know, you're facing the best. It's the best of the best. Even their backups were star players in college.
SPEAKER_05:Supposed to be the best of the best.
SPEAKER_03:No, it really is, dude. I mean, like you're you're getting the best of what could come out of college because those guys that that don't get drafted, unless they get signed, they aren't going to the NFL. So you get a lot of guys that they're they're playing in college, but they don't ever go to the NFL.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I think the best of the best, I think yes, it is the best of the best because no matter who you're picking out of that pool, they are the best. But I still feel like there are some people or some players that make it to the NFL level that probably shouldn't be there, and obviously they fizzle out. And I think there are clearly some players who never even get drafted or signed that probably could make it at the NFL level, but they just didn't get signed or they didn't get drafted. Like sometimes it happens.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, there's been plenty of players that were good college players, but not good NFL players. Yeah, it happens all the time. You know, you'll see a guy, it's like, oh, you can't miss. He's gonna be great, he's gonna be so awesome in the NFL, and then he gets there, and it's like, oh, yeah. I I thought he's better than this, you know. There's situation uh for example, like a Tim Tebow, great college player, kind of a kind of a extremely beloved in the college game at that. And Johnny Manzel. Beloved in college, but when he got to the NFL, he fizzled out. He well, some of it was maturity, and that does play a factor. The maturity of the city.
SPEAKER_05:They do expect you to have or instantly gain a level of maturity that you didn't have.
SPEAKER_03:One thing one thing I remember years ago, you had you had a an uh a team in college, I believe it was God, I I wish I could remember things better than this, but I want to say it was Oklahoma. But they had Thurman Thomas, and Thurman Thomas was RB1, and his backup was Barry Sanders, and there was literally a coach that goes to his players and says, Whatever you do, do not hurt Thurman. And they're like, look at him like, What? Like, do not hurt Thurman. What do you what are you talking about, coach? His backup's better. Like, he literally he's like, I know, do not hurt in the game. So Thurman gets drafted the very next year. Barry, Barry has like one of the best college football seasons for for a running back ever. And it proved that coach right. Like, don't hurt, don't hurt.
SPEAKER_05:And I don't have the exact list, but who do you think QBU is? QB University. I saw something earlier today since we're on the topic of this. Shoot. Um, Alabama has five starting quarterbacks in the NFL now. So I wish I had pulled up the numbers on the other colleges. This I mean this was a good this was a good one to me. Yeah, but it but they're starting now at the same time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but you look at some of the best quarterbacks to go into the NFL. Cam Newton. They didn't always go, they didn't always go to you know, big name schools.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. You know, like Carson Wentz.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Josh Allen Mike's gonna beat me in a second. Josh Allen, he didn't go to a big time school. No. I mean, you you have uh Aaron Aaron Rodgers went to Cal. He didn't that's not a big time school. I mean, uh Josh Allen was Wyoming. You had uh what was it, Ben Roezberger? It was like Florida, my or it was uh Miami of Ohio's college or something like that. And like it that's how it goes sometimes. Like the guys that come from the bad schools or you know, lesser known schools. Let's say bad school, yeah, lesser known smaller schools, they're used to playing in chaos and you know having to work harder to get to finding open receivers. Yeah, it just kind of how it goes. You don't always get the Joe Burroughs from LSU, even though you know Joe Burrow's been pretty pretty darn good.
SPEAKER_05:I prefer LSU's Jaden Daniels.
SPEAKER_03:That's that would be I was going for somebody who's been in the league more than one year.
SPEAKER_05:Um, you can do what you want to do.
SPEAKER_03:And has been in a Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_05:Listen, sir. The punches keep flying. But anyway, so I thought that was a good little debate. You let us know on our social media. We have the we on the gram, you know, Instagram for us older folks, uh, Facebook, uh two for the win.com. That is the number two for the win.com. Go check us out. Feel free to let us know how you feel. Uh, which game is better, college game or the NFL, the pro level game, and which one you like more. And tell us why while you're at it, why not? Um so having that said, before we get too far into the NFL, and I say I'm done with the Cardinals forever, uh, I just want to address Giants owner Jim Mara. Uh he's announced, actually, uh was yesterday announced that he's been diagnosed with cancer. He didn't disclose what type of cancer, but uh I just thought everybody should know and he should know that our thoughts and prayers go out to him, his team, uh, his family, and the community uh impacted by his diagnosis. Mara is 70 years old. Uh he's expecting to remain active with the team as the president and CEO. So uh, you know, he says he feels pretty optimistic about treatment and how it's gonna go. Uh, you know, whatever kind of cancer is, no kind of cancer is good. They all suck. Um, but my bet was prostate cancer since he didn't disclose it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, first off, if somebody has cancer, they don't, and they're, you know, somebody that is in the media, they don't have to. They don't have to. They don't have to tell us what they have. They don't I mean the fact that he even said that he has cancer is a big deal. Um, and especially when when you get older, uh anytime you start getting health issues, and especially something of this magnitude, you always run the risk of of not making through. Yeah so it it's definitely probably weighing on his family's mind, and we hope that you know, because whether you like Mara or the Giants, at at the bottom, at the end of the day, he's a person, and you know, nobody should really have to go through any kind of suffering of that kind of magnitude.
SPEAKER_05:No, I agree. And you know, speaking of the Giants, I'm probably gonna kick myself at some point in the future for saying this, but I really like the duo of Jackson Dart and Cam Scattaboo.
SPEAKER_03:We'll get there, dude.
SPEAKER_05:We will get there, but I just thought while we're on the subject of the Giants, we would talk about that real quick. Uh we'll get down to that in a moment. Uh, a very popular gaming company, EA Sports, Electronic Arts, has been acquired uh by an investment group led by Jared Kushner and a Saudi Arabia-backed group. Uh, is the biggest acquired. It's uh$55 billion.$52.5 billion. It's the largest one of the largest gaming takeover buyouts in like history. This is huge. Um, I don't know how I feel about that.
SPEAKER_03:Not for political reasons, just you say fifty-two, but I see a New York Times article that says it's fifty-five billion.
SPEAKER_05:Well, 55 billion with the maybe it might come out total be 55. Either way, it's a lot of fucking money. Excuse me. Money than I'll ever have. Yeah, more money than I will my generations of me will probably make. But uh, I thought that was huge. I'm eager to see. This is interesting to me, because I want to see where all these game franchises go now. They're gonna make these games differently now.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I don't know how, but I hope better. Yeah, I would hope better, but I mean, especially when it comes to sports mechanics. Well, I think the big one that probably the reason they want it the most is FIFA. You know, FIFA is a big game.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, FIFA, I think, is the leading reason. Um, and everybody knows EA's Madden is the go-to football premiere game on all game systems. Madden just blows them all out of the water.
SPEAKER_03:Um well, they finally brought back college football, so that they might uh you know, they might have something to say about that in here.
SPEAKER_05:Now, let's talk about a game in particular that happened. There was a Sunday night game. Was this no, this was Sunday night game. Uh, Cowboys Packers finishing a tie. Oh, you know, a lot of people say they had not they had not didn't think a football game could end in a tie. It can, it's happened numerous times before. It's just usually not as volatile as this this matchup was. Um, and here I have another question for you, Mike, in just a second, but I really felt that the Packers had an opportunity to win this one, and they just horribly mismanaged the clock here uh at the end. Did you see the end of the game? I did not, I was asleep. So the green Green Bay is in the red zone. I think they're on like the 15-yard line. There's like 17 seconds left in the game. They don't have any timeouts, they run a quick play, miss it. Oh no, they ran a quick play, they hit it, and the clock keeps timing. They had an opportunity to get back to line and spike it and have like 12 seconds left on the clock. Instead of spiking it, Jordan Love goes into all his motions and start it. The clock is ticking down. It's like happening in slow motion.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I know what you're talking about. And like, I'm like, bro, why didn't you spike it? You could have got another play and then gone for the field goal. I thought if they spiked it, they could have gathered their bearings.
SPEAKER_03:You you mean that the the Packers mismanaged? You said the Cowboys.
SPEAKER_05:No, I said the Packers. I said Green Bay. Oh, okay. Yeah, we can go back and check the recording later, though. No, I thought I thought the Packers horribly mismanaged this game uh because they miss it. Now they have two seconds left. The only thing left to do is take a field goal, either end in a tie or take a loss.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they have one second left, sir. And mind you, this is in Dallas Stadium, and I do I do remember it now that you mention it, um, because I did see I did see some highlights the next day.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um but like the clock manager in Dallas, you know, normally you hope that you get a team-friendly clock when it comes to the next uh or your game at home. That's not what happened here, man. This was this was nuts. Like they left one second on the clock after all his shenanigans for them to kick a game-tying field goal.
SPEAKER_05:And I'm just beside myself right now. I'm like, and uh in my head, I'm like, what the only thing that could happen worse is he shank it, okay? Well, it they could have scored. And honestly, why didn't they put the ball in the running? This is this is like a Seahawks moment to me when they're almost on the goal line. Well, the Seahawks were on the goal line in that Super Bowl. Give it to your running back and pound it in.
SPEAKER_03:Not to mention the fact they still had timeouts and it was like No, they didn't have any timeouts left. Yeah, they did. Not Green Bay, no. No, not that I'm talking about the Seahawks game, man. Oh, yeah, that one. Yeah, they had timeouts left. They had they had already just had a three-yard run, you know, by Marshawn Lynch. Yeah. And then you you go ahead and instead of handing the ball off, you go to throw a quick slant at the goal line. Just that whole thing was just like intercepted.
SPEAKER_05:Did anyone go pick six too? No. It's just intercepted. So okay, so just lock the game up. But um Wow, I'm surprised you don't remember that.
SPEAKER_03:It was so long ago. I'm old. Go like going back to the the Cowboys. We were still teenagers. Going back to Cow You were, sir.
SPEAKER_05:Going back to in my head, I think.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, probably. Going back to the Cowboys Green Bay game, this game ended in a tie, and I think nobody feels good after a tie. Like the fans don't feel good, the teams don't feel good. Like a tie just feels like and it was a very why did we play this game?
SPEAKER_05:It was very underwhelming end of the game. Like even the announcers were like, well, I I guess it was at least nice showing up for the experience. Like the game, final score, 40 to 40, they're like night. They're like, Well, this is a very anticlimatic finish here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that just you know, uh, just it just I hate ties. I hate ties. If if I had my way, we would eliminate this whole tie business by doing one simple thing. You would start your kickers at the 10-yard line, and each team is going to kick a 10-yard field goal. If you make it, you back up to the 20. Then you kick a 20, then you back up to 30, 40, 50. You keep backing up until one of your kickers misses, and then you know what else would come of this? When you have an amazing kicker, you're gonna pay that guy to stick around.
SPEAKER_05:Well, and that you you did answer my next question. I was gonna say, are ties a good thing or a bad thing? And clearly you say no. And I agree with you. I think that there should be a winner. Honestly, I'm a favor of double overtime. I am a favor of sudden death. Okay. I uh now in regular overtime, each team gets a chance to possess the ball in double overtime. I think you go double overtime, first team that scores wins. You know what we could do beyond that? But there's no coin flip. You just start a new quarter where you're at.
SPEAKER_03:Just like going from the first quarter to the second quarter. I think you just go into the skills challenge competition with the quarterback. Go out there and win it. There's a guy, most guys targets hit.
SPEAKER_05:There's a guy he just starts putting out cones and shit. Everybody's the fuck's no, no, they put out those targets and stuff where you gotta hit the target, hit the cones and targets. Yeah, cones and targets.
SPEAKER_03:They're like because then nobody gets hurt. Because the only problem with doing double overtime, like you're saying, you run the risk for more injuries on the players. The players won't make any more money for it, so they're gonna not really be okay with it. And the next week they're gonna be beat down because they got basically played another half game after the full game.
SPEAKER_05:Maybe they better start putting overtime and double overtime incentives into these contracts then. No, sir. No, sir. If it goes to overtime, this. If it goes double overtime, this and that, you know. Maybe you should start accounting for in a contract. You're getting crazy with this, sir. No, this is what we do, bro. We debate. But no, there's there should be a way, but that's why it's a three-column win, loss, tie. And I guess for TV production times and other factors they really can't control, they got to keep it moving for schedule.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, because they got games following or they have other things going on. But speaking of games, let's look into these games from from last week, man. Let's check these scores.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, yeah, let's do it last week and then we'll go with the rest of the agenda here. Yeah. Because we got some juicy stuff coming up, but we'll do a little recap.
SPEAKER_03:So the week kicked off with Thursday night game with the Seahawks and the Cardinals. Going against each other. Divisional matchups are always they're always good because these teams know each other. They're gonna play well regardless. But the one thing that annoyed me in this game, those cardinal uniforms. Like it's supposed to be their their own. Yeah, they remind me of potato chips. Like it just it just like the first close-up they did, I thought the uniform was dirty.
SPEAKER_05:I thought it was dirty too, bro.
SPEAKER_02:It's like wash the uniforms for the going out there.
SPEAKER_05:If they had just gone all white, it would have been a badass uniform.
SPEAKER_03:From what I was told, it's supposed to be like signifying because they're Arizona. It was supposed to be like an Arizona dust storm kind of look. Is what it's supposed to be.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, it looked dusty, that's for sure. It looked bad. They did not look good to me. I mean, they overall looked good to me. It's just that design element threw the whole thing off for me. I just felt they're doing too much there.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Now the the reflective red and the holofoil against a solid white, that would have that was dope to me. I thought it looked great. But like you say, then you throw in the little texture thing. I didn't even notice until they did close-ups on them. I was like, damn, they look like a bunch of tortilla chips out there on the field. Because the speckle kind of gave them like a tannish look, too, kind of a tannish hue to them. Yeah. But anyway, fuck the Cardinals. I'm done with you for the rest of my life. Um, and I hate you.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. That's some serious cardinal hate. Why? Because I'm the Niners fan asking you why.
SPEAKER_05:Because I'm gonna throw a little bit of fantasy football at you. Uh-oh. Because I had James Conner on multiple leagues. Okay, and he goes down, which wasn't unexpected.
SPEAKER_02:Nobody wants to hear you cry about your fantasy football.
SPEAKER_05:But then Trey Benson gets moved to IR today, and I'm like, bro, you gotta be kidding me. I can't win with these folks. And MHJ is having a hard time getting going. Kyler Murray can't see over his own O-line. I'm done with these guys.
SPEAKER_02:That's not true. That's not true. He had a he had an amazing touchdown catching that game over a defender.
SPEAKER_05:Well, it came and it came in the late later stages of the game. So I give him credit for getting it going, but still, Kyler Murray can't see over his own lineman.
SPEAKER_02:Well, then he just runs outside like a toddler.
SPEAKER_03:I mean He's like Patrick Mahomes. No, he looks like a toddler when they when they take something they're not supposed to have and they run away from you. He does.
SPEAKER_02:That's what it looks like when he runs.
SPEAKER_05:He does have that toddler, a little taller run.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, oh my god, it back out there, gotta give me.
SPEAKER_05:But yeah, anyway, the Cardinals can kick rocks. I'm done with them. Go Seahawks. Yeah, boy. Well, they they got the win anyway, so there you go. Yeah, that's the other reason I'm done with them. They can't win.
SPEAKER_03:And then our first Europe game. Ooh. Was the Vikings and the Steelers. Dude, I'm I'm telling you, I thought the Vikings were gonna win this game. I thought they were going to win this game pretty handedly. Because the Steelers, albeit they have a three-and-one record now, they have not looked good in the games they have won. You know, they're giving up all these points to teams like the Jets, and I'm supposed to expect that they're gonna be good against the Vikings. And Rogers is only merely a serviceable Yeah, he's not Rogers of Old.
SPEAKER_05:He's not the Rogers of old. He's getting it done, but he is throwing modest numbers.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I think the big change that they made that made their offense kind of go Kenneth Gainwell, man. Yeah, they've been plugging him in more at the running back position, and it's working.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and he looks getting some success too with it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Um former Eagle now now with the Steelers. And this was this was Addison's first game back, wasn't it? Yes, yeah, this was Jordan Addison's first game back. And Carson Wentz, uh, he again he didn't play necessarily lights out, but he played like a serviceable quarterback.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he played well. It just like at the end of the day, you know, uh a breakdown of all things, a breakdown in their defensive coverage, giving up giving up the long touchdown catch to uh Medcalf didn't exactly service them well.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, it just Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't that bad. And then uh we can skip down the list a little bit. Oh, no, no, no, no, sir.
SPEAKER_03:We don't gotta talk about sir, we gotta talk about this. No, no, we gotta talk about this because we're gonna wind up talking about my game. We're gonna talk about your game. That commander game against the Falcons.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, they were going commando right. They might as well have not been wearing underwear out there.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I mean them defensive backs were playing like they ain't got no underwear on. Well, the final score being being 34 to 27.
SPEAKER_05:So a week prior, Atlanta gets shut out by arguably one of the worst teams of the league in the Panthers. And then we come down to Atlanta and then they beat the Pants off us, a former NFC championship game competitor. You better not play the Panthers. We I think we do, because we got the whole division.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and we might have a rough go against the Panthers.
SPEAKER_05:Let's talk, let's talk about Washington for a second here. They have some problems, okay? It wasn't even the fact that Jaden Daniels wasn't in this game. Mariota did a relatively um decent job operating that offense, okay? I mean, you put up 27 points. But the Falcons, and not just the Falcons, our defensive secondary, they have got to do something. We're about to be done with this team just like the Cardinals, okay? Sir, no. When your team sucks, you just have to bear through it. Listen, this is a new era now. I was promised new things, okay?
SPEAKER_03:It all began with you wanted you wanted the new shiny objects, you wanted you wanted things to get better, but it's the same old shit sandwich they've been handing you.
SPEAKER_05:Well, it's not quite the same old, it tastes a little different, but it's overall the same results.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, they put it on rye bread.
SPEAKER_05:It's overall the same results. This is like RG3 to be all over again, except RG3 is the defensive secondary. So they're a young secondary, but but they gotta get together. They did not they don't adjust their scheme at all. Like once teams realize that they can throw on us, us being Washington, uh, once teams realize they can they can throw, they just start balling out on us. They're like they don't even bother running except to maybe set up another quick screen screen or quick pass, but uh they gotta do something. Two and two going into week five. This is getting ready to be a crucial time of the season here because this is where teams are gonna start to separate themselves.
SPEAKER_03:Sir. Huh? It could be worse. You could be a Saints fan. Saints haven't won a game. And they got the they got the bricks beat off.
SPEAKER_05:Honestly, by as bad as that is, as bad as that is, I think it would be worse to be a Browns fan at one and three than a Saints fan at 0-4. I'll take the Saints at 0-4 over the Browns at 1-3.
SPEAKER_03:The Browns have a win.
SPEAKER_05:No, they don't. It's not a real win. Okay. They it's not a real win. I mean, they beat Green Bay, but you know, with their quarterback situation.
SPEAKER_03:Let's go ahead and talk about the fact that Buffalo beat the Saints 31 to 19.
SPEAKER_05:The Saints kept it relatively tight, though, through most of the game. What was tight? At one point, they were just a few points separated until the Bills put it away.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the Bills stopped playing with their food and won the game. You know, like anyway. Moving on to the to the Lions and Browns game.
SPEAKER_05:Do we need to talk about this one?
SPEAKER_03:Look, uh, yeah, we kind of do because the Lions, the Lions are showing us something.
SPEAKER_02:You know, they this is not a slouch defense. Like the Browns, they may be a nept at offense, but their defense is pretty good.
SPEAKER_03:Their defense is good. They've always had a relatively good defense. 34 points on that defense.
SPEAKER_05:So 34 to 10. By the way, Quinshawn Judkins turning out to be a fantasy lightning rod through the first couple weeks for him.
SPEAKER_03:Texans finally found themselves a win against the Titans and Titans. Who are also 0-4.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Which is weird because I kind of like some of the pieces that the Titans have in place. They just Bill Callahan, who hired Bill Callahan as a head coach? I don't know. This guy, offensive line guru, running back guru, not head coach.
SPEAKER_03:It's been downhill for the Titans since they traded AJ Brown.
SPEAKER_05:Probably since they got rid of Vrabel, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_03:Both.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Both. And since they got rid of Derrick Henry, now that I think about it.
SPEAKER_03:They let Derrick Henry walk. They let him walk. Yeah, through free agency. But speaking about a team that kind of cleaned up on free agency and kind of turned their team around a little bit, Patriots had a big old win against Panthers 42-13, uh, putting them at 2-2. I wouldn't call that a big win other than the size of the of the scoring margin. Put up 42 points. That's a big production of the game. Against a 1-3 sorry Panthers team. Hey, that sorry Panthers team beat the team that beat you.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and that team is also sorry, and so is the team that I'm rooting for. I don't even, I'm not even gonna say their name. They don't deserve it.
SPEAKER_03:And I think the surprise of the weekend, the Giants beating the Chargers in uh the Jackson Dart first.
SPEAKER_05:The era of Jackson Dart and Cam Scadabo is off and running. I've been waiting to talk about this, bro. Look, Cam Scataboe is this is the most wild-in-out running back I've ever seen in my life. This motherfucker is he all the other players had relatively clean jerseys on a sunny day, by the way. His jersey was all black and brown and torn up. This dude is a bruiser, he plays hard, he is like the diesel on crack, okay? Oh, and then Jackson Dart, honestly, I love what he put on film this weekend. And I know I it's the Giants and fuck them, but honestly, I really like Jackson Dart and Cam Scadabow. I think they both have a bright future here in the league as long as they keep playing like that. So Scatabow, we'll see how long Scatabow lasts with his running style.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, well, speaking of lasting, they had a not so great situation with uh Malik Neighbors. Yeah, neighbors is down with the rest of the league, who's getting injured. Well, it's it's pretty significant for them because he's their number one threat, and now with him down, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Who's neighbor neighbors is down, you know, Tyreek's down, who we'll get to here shortly as well. Uh, you know, five and hit, sir. I'm just shit, I'm just shooting off random points here. But you know, neighbors added to a laundry list of injured players this season. This this year is one of the worst I've seen for player injuries.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, sort of. I mean, we've we've had seasons like this before. Yeah, we have. It's not uh at the forefront of everybody's mind because this is fresh. You can't hide from it anywhere, not even in the fantasy football world. Well, moving along to the Eagles and Buccaneers game, which I think everybody anticipated this would be a tightly contested game with two 3-0 teams going against each other. Yeah. And the fact that the Buc have beaten the Eagles in the past, you know, within recent years. Uh yeah, the Eagles they just did what they always do. Sorry, go ahead. Unfortunately, for the Buccaneers, they didn't have uh uh Mike Evans in this game, and they couldn't get Bucky Irving really going. Like he was the problem was the penetration from from the Eagles D-line just kept pushing up the middle and forcing him to choose an out route. You know, he's running, he's running east and west instead of north and south. You know, Bucky is best when he can get through a gap and up the field, you know, and when you're forcing him to bounce outside and then all of the DBs are just rallying to the point, yeah, he wasn't really getting much success.
SPEAKER_05:You think they're using their tight end enough? I mean, they have a pretty good tight end in Kate Otten, but they don't seem to even with the injuries, they don't seem to look his way too much.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, man. It was such a wild game for the fact that like it just seemed like it seemed like the score should have been a lot bigger. Like it shouldn't have been 31 to 25. I felt like it should have been two or three scores ahead by by the Eagles because of the way the game was playing out. But you know, Buccaneers defense was trying. They were doing the best they could. But that that Eagles offense, you just don't really know what they are. Because, you know, one game they're throwing the ball around, next game they're they're running the ball the entire time. Yeah. And some it just like you never really know.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and the Eagles coming up to 4-0, one of two teams undefeated still through week five.
SPEAKER_03:I think they're their only team undefeated, aren't they?
SPEAKER_05:Bills are undefeated.
SPEAKER_03:This is true. This is true.
SPEAKER_05:Anyway, here we go. The Colts and the Rams. By the way, the Colts look like a playoff bound team here this year. Uh, what do you think?
SPEAKER_03:Forget the Rams. I think that's the team that I picked to win that division.
SPEAKER_05:You did. What do you think? Forget the Rams for just a second. They're the Rams. Anthony Richardson. What do you think happens to him after this season? I know he's been he's gonna be shipped out somewhere. I know he said he'd be interested in going somewhere where he could play under an already established quarterback. Yeah, yeah. And a lot of a lot of people had him linked to Baltimore.
SPEAKER_03:It's a it'd probably be a good fit. I don't okay. The Colts, for all intents and purposes, should have won this game. The only reason they didn't is because the DB fell down covering 2-2 Atwell, and it was you know, Matthew Stafford seeing a receiver wide open, yeah, he's not gonna miss him. Hits 2-2 Atwell, deep shot, touchdown, puts him ahead, game's done with. You know, if it wasn't for that, we're probably looking at a Colts team who was holding their own against the Rams, which mind you, they have had some tough contests so far. They faced the Broncos, who's been considered one of the teams with a better defense, and was a favorite going into the season to win their division, uh, even though you know they still got to deal with the Chiefs. And they faced the Rams, you know, another good team. I mean, those are two playoff teams from last year.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, the Rams are pretty good. They're they're not dealing with much right now as far as drama-wise, they're just kind of keeping it moving.
SPEAKER_03:They are. I mean, they kind of keep everything under wraps.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they just kind of keep it rolling. The youngest head coach in the NFL, Sean McVeigh, still keeping it going.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but five years later now. Speaking of things not being keep kept under wraps, the feud that Robert Sala was having with the the uh Jaguars head coach and their coaching staff. Didn't they accuse you all of stealing signs or something like that? No, Robert Sala was basically saying that anybody that came out of the McVeigh tree, which would be the Rams, the McVeigh tree has elite sign stealing capabilities. They teach him how to steal signs, and he he did say legally steal signs uh for the opposing teams they play. Yeah, and so that's kind of where they get that leg up. But some of that might be stemming from the fact that it came down to uh Liam Cohen and Robert Sala for that Jags job, and they chose Cohen. Cohen, yeah, not and not Sala. Which mind you, Sala's better off being with us, being with the Niners.
SPEAKER_05:I think so too. And the Jaguars, they just feel like they're on the cusp of turning a corner here. Like they're not really playing great football, but they have they have I mean, they're playing great football. I mean, three they're three and one, but like let me let me let me clue you in on something.
SPEAKER_03:They still struggle at times. Let me clue you in on something with this team. Oh shit. And if anybody's playing fantasy, I'll give you a little tip. If you don't believe me, go look. Go look at the Jaguars defense, go look at the points they put up every week. They have put up double-digit points defense every week. They're doing great numbers. And I know you you're gonna sit here and say, oh, well, you know, it's Jaguars, they play in a sorry division. No, I'm not gonna say that.
SPEAKER_05:No. That's what I say. That's what I say about the Chiefs.
SPEAKER_03:Go look at their competition, go look at the teams they've played. They have played really well. They went wound up winning this game 26 to 21. Now, the Niners did have the ball late in the game and were trying to take a drive with Purdy late, but Purdy fumbled when the defense again got a turnover by pressure and coming around and smacking the ball out of Purdy's hands.
SPEAKER_05:I told you guys couldn't you guys couldn't compete without Bosa.
SPEAKER_03:But here's here's the thing. I don't think Purdy was fully healthy because he wasn't like he was sailing a lot of balls in that game, and I think he couldn't put enough pressure on that toe to follow through on his on his uh motion because whenever you don't follow through, that's when you get balls that kind of sail instead of coming in on their target.
SPEAKER_05:And didn't the 49ers aren't y'all missing like two key receiving targets right now? Kittle's down and Iuk's down, right? Yep. So that hampers y'all a little bit. Uh honestly, I'm still impressed to see the Jaguars beat y'all because I thought y'all would have had that game locked up.
SPEAKER_03:Like I said, we had a chance. We had a chance to go down and win it, but in plenty of time, it just didn't work out that way. And speaking of things not working out that way.
SPEAKER_06:Ooh.
SPEAKER_03:Jeez, the the Rams or the not the Rams, the Ravens are one and three, bro. Are one and three. This is a team that everybody was kind of expecting to be a Super Bowl contender, and you know, they get beat by the Chiefs 37 to 20, and it's kind of looking like the Chiefs just have Lamar figured out. But Well, Lamar's injured in this game, too. Well, here's the thing though. They're missing like seven players on their defense, so it's kind of hard to field a defensive team so that can stop a potent offense like the Chiefs. And the Chiefs When I say potent offense, even though they have not looked good, they've finally got worthy backers. Oh, they went off this weekend. They did. But I worry this is a little bit of fool's gold for Chiefs fans. I'm not I'm not trying to say the Chiefs aren't good. I'm trying to say you're playing a defense that's weak because of injury, and you got players that don't normally play together, that aren't first string, and this is gonna look good. You know what? But what happens when you go against another defense that is intact? I'm changing well together. I'm changing Patrick mind you, they play the Jaguars next.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that'll be interesting, but I'm changing Patrick Mahomes' pet name from Mahome to Mahopra because touchdown for you, touchdown for you, touchdown for you, touchdown for me. Everybody gets touchdowns.
SPEAKER_03:That's what good quarterbacks do, they spread it around.
SPEAKER_05:Listen, sir, we're throwing the word good around quite loosely here. But wait a second, wait a second.
SPEAKER_03:Has he not won Super Bowls?
SPEAKER_05:Andy Reid's system has won Super Bowls.
SPEAKER_03:But was he not the quarterback that won the Super Bowls? Listen, they had just answer the question, sir.
SPEAKER_05:They had Alex, they had Alex Smith running that offense at one point in time, too. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:You just happen to know who Alex Smith is and the fact that he was there because you were traded Alex Smith.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and it was a very good trade, mind you, until he broke his leg, but yeah, I think that was uh one of the Watt boys did that to him.
SPEAKER_03:Reliving the Theisman era. Oh, geez.
SPEAKER_05:But anyway, no, it's seeing the Chiefs, you know, and we'll get down to next week's schedule in a second. But the Chiefs and Jaguars next, that's gonna be interesting. Uh the Bears and the Raiders. Uh the Bears barely edging out the Raiders here. This was Genty's coming out party, man. Yeah, Genty came out in this game. Just I even remember looking up a screen, Mike. Look at Genty go. Look at Genty go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Scoring a couple of times.
SPEAKER_05:Never thought I'd say that like that. That's weird. And then so the Bears, they're teeter-tottering two-and-two right now under the Ben Johnson.
SPEAKER_03:It was a last second missed field goal that got the Bears to win because they, man, if that field goal went in, we're talking a totally different thing. You know, we're gonna have the Bears at one and three instead of the Raiders at one and three. You know, Raiders would be two and two.
SPEAKER_05:Now, do you think Ben Johnson coaches the Bears to be better than his Lions offensive unit was when he was coordinator years past? I still think that they don't have enough pieces.
SPEAKER_03:I think they need some offensive line pieces.
SPEAKER_05:Well, he's certainly showing that Caleb Williams and Romeo O'Dunze are not busts.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, they're not they're not busts.
SPEAKER_05:This was Odunze's coming out season right here. He is going off, bro. He's looked very good. And and looking back to the Seahawks, JSN is going off as well. He's just blowing up, those two guys are just blowing up, man. Um we're not gonna talk about the 2B game. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03:We still we gotta talk about it because of what happened.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, yeah, that's right. You're lucky, Tyreek's on that team, because now we have to. This game should have been flexed to 2B, y'all.
SPEAKER_03:But well, honestly, I mean it's a divisional matchup that we're talking about the Dolphins and Jets. Uh this honestly, it the Jets they can't get out of their own way, man. They turn over the ball three times. They have like, you know, I think it was like 13 penalties on them or something. 13 or 19. They had they had double-digit penalties on them, and they just they did not look like a good team. And you know, the final score makes it look a lot closer than it really was. It just they they were not playing good ball at all. They cannot deal with motion.
SPEAKER_05:And Aaron Glenn was yelling so much.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, he was. They heard him a couple doors down. Well, the Dolphins came away with the win in this, but they did not win as far as personnel goes because uh, if you didn't see it, Tyreek Hill got injured at the uh in the third quarter. It was a play where he's going to the outside, catches a pass, and the defender grabs him and kind of does a gator roll. But when he does, Tyreek's leg was planted, and then he wound up dislocating his kneecap and basically tearing everything in the kneecap. All the ligaments are torn.
SPEAKER_05:Speaking of players possibly being shipped around or cut, Tyreek's contract contains 1.8 million dollars of per game active roster bonuses in 25. 1.4 of that he's now gonna miss out on, okay? Now none of his 36 million dollars that's owed to him in 26 is guaranteed. So his his cap hit, he's he carries a dead cap hit of 28.2, but to cut him would free up 23 million dollars in cap space for them.
SPEAKER_03:Here's the problem though. We don't even know it based on this injury if Tyreek is even gonna play football anymore. He says he's playing. I know he says that. His agent says he's playing. Again, I know you say that, but here's the thing you can say it all you want. Whether you can actually still do it is another thing. He just won't be the cheetah. We've seen plenty of guys come back, yes, but this is a bad enough injury that you might not come back.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it's multiple leg events torn. Uh looking at a year minimum recovery with rehab, and that's on the bright side of things with no setbacks. Um if he does come back, he won't be the cheetah, he'll probably be more like the muskrat. Yeah, something like that. The the house cat.
SPEAKER_03:But moving into the other Monday night game, we had the Broncos Broncos against the Bengals, which would have been a much better game if Burrow played because their backup, Browning. Man, that dude looks sorry, man.
SPEAKER_05:I feel like we're gonna be saying this about the Bengals all season. Well, I wish Burrow was here.
SPEAKER_03:Until they trade for somebody, but uh right now, I think I think what we saw. No. What we saw there was a Broncos team that is starting to come come to life a little bit with their offense. You know, they put up 28 points, now two and two. Bengals are two and two, but they don't look like they're gonna be trending in the right direction.
SPEAKER_05:Now, before we go on, let's look back, let's let's look ahead to the Browns real quick. I have a question for you, sir. Dylan Gabriel, speak of the devil, are we buying him or are we selling him right now before he's even played it down in the NFL? I went back and looked up his college history.
SPEAKER_03:He's getting the start next week against the Vikings.
SPEAKER_05:Exactly. This is why I bring him up. He's got one of the deepest resumes for a college quarterback that there is right now. Uh he lit it up in college relatively decent, but he's got some drawbacks, small arms, you know, short arms, small hands. He's only 5'11. Um, but he's got like 18,000 passing yards over his passing career in college. So are we buying or selling?
SPEAKER_03:What do you think? He's he's been a starter in college for for a number of years. So he has the reps under his belt. And from what I've seen in preseason, he looks like he can run the offense. I mean, just because a guy is not prototypical does not mean that he's not a good quarterback. I mean, we've seen it time and time again where you get players that they might not look like the prototypical prototypical quarterback, but they could run an offense. I mean, hell, Russell Wilson was that. You know, look what he did with the Seahawks. You know, we had Doug Fluty. Nobody would have said what is a prototype prototypical quarterback, but he had a pretty good career both in the Canadian Football League and the NFL.
SPEAKER_05:And not to mention, he's got a good little microscopic sample size already because he's already got he was like four or five pass attempts for like 40 something yards and a touchdown. So that's not a bad little microscopic sample size from having a handful of passes already on the NFL field.
SPEAKER_03:Was that was that in preseason or game recently?
SPEAKER_05:This this was during regular season. He looked well in preseason, but this is regular NFL season action. So they put him in instead of Flacco. They put him in, I think it was like last week or the week before. Um I think it was like So he's got some he's got some live records. Yeah, it was like toward the end of the game. So like for me, he doesn't have a lot of weapons to work with, which is hurting him, and he's getting his NFL debut against the Vikings.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I mean, their their rookie tight end looks pretty good, and and and Joku looks good. And Jerry Judy and all that.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, he's he's he's got them, but he doesn't have them. But at the same time, your first NFL matchup starting, you're going against one of the league's elite defenses.
SPEAKER_03:No, they didn't look too elite against the Steelers, so I mean maybe maybe something will work for him. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So um, and with that being said, Shadur is again not even in the conversation. What do you make of this, Mike?
SPEAKER_03:Uh he's in the conversation, but only because of Rex Ryan and his his comments.
SPEAKER_05:That's a different conversation. It is, it is, and it's it's a dumb one. Actually, we heard this about two players from two different former coaches. Well, one is a coach. Aaron Glenn said a similar thing about Stephon Diggs, because Diggs said he was having trouble, you know, learning offense. Well, both the response was, well, maybe they need to study more. That's what they said, that's what Rex said about Shadur, get off your ass and do the work. That's what Aaron, or not Aaron, that's what Mike Vrabel said about Stephon Diggs. Get off your ass and do the work, study more.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So I I kind of agree with that. There's no such thing as too much studying, okay?
SPEAKER_03:Well, and in the NFL, you need to know your stuff before you get on the field. You can't. And if if you've ever been to show up.
SPEAKER_05:And if you've ever been to college, you'll know that's the truth. But I digress on that one. Uh before we get on to this next piece, let's go ahead and look ahead to week four.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. All right. Well, we're going to be starting out the Thursday night game with the San Francisco 49ers and the Los Angeles Rams to kick us off. Now, it's already been said that Brock Purdy and and their uh Ricky Pearsall are not going to be playing in this game. So Mac Jones time. Yeah, it's going to be the Mac Jones time, and you know, we've got to hope that some other receivers step up because Pearsall's been a key key component, although I hate to say it. As a Niners fan, it's at Los Angeles, and the Rams play us tough.
SPEAKER_05:Mag Jones won this one. I'm changing his nickname to motherfucker Jones.
SPEAKER_03:I will gladly let you if he wins.
SPEAKER_05:You are now motherfucker Jones. You beat a team like the Rams like that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh so again. Two teams we thought had high thoughts and praises for going into the season. The Texans and Ravens go against each other. So finally, somebody at these three and one teams is going to get another win and be two and three and maybe turn their season around.
SPEAKER_05:I'm betting, I really want to bet on the Ravens, but they have just disappointed me all season so far. I like the Texans, but I I like to think the Ravens can come in here and start getting things back on track. The Eagles and the Broncos, this is an interesting matchup because the Broncos are better than their record um shows. It says 2-2, but trust me, Mike, this is a 3-1 team at least right now.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Well, yeah, they got they got beat by the Colts because of a penalty that allowed the Colts to get another kick after they missed a kick late in game to win that game. And you know, which angers a lot of Colts fans or a lot of Broncos fans. So this, yeah, this this should be a good test for both teams because it's supposed to be, you know, two really good defenses showcasing against you know offenses that we still don't quite know what they are.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and I I really feel like uh Bo Nicks and um Sean Payton are finding their stride here on this offense, and now with J.K. Dobbins and RJ Harvey also finding their footing in the offense. I feel like this is getting to ready to be a very volatile offense here, and that is Sean Payton's style. That is what he did in New Orleans. Um what do you think is going on with AJ Brown, real quick? This man has been non-existent through four weeks so far. They're a number one receiver, uh an elite receiver in the league last year.
SPEAKER_03:I think he's pissed off that he's not being targeted more. I think that's all it is. Like receivers want their catches, they want to be involved, they want to get their catches and their numbers, and and when you're not involved, it sucks. And uh quite frankly, I think they're eventually gonna have to come to a point where they trade him because he's not gonna continue to be happy with this kind of mess.
SPEAKER_05:You know, I mean, yeah, you're on a winning team, you're winning, but if you're not the reason for winning, or if you're not even if you're not even contributing. Yeah. Like just have some can contribute, you know, give yourself some purpose, but well, not give himself. They got I don't know what's going on with them, but it seems like something a little bit deeper now at this point. Um I know you're circling that game, but I don't care about that game. I I am a little worried about that game. Oh, you're you're worried about going against the Chargers, Commanders, and I don't think that's gonna be a good experience for us, but I do like the Seahawks and the Buccaneers going head to head in Seahawks territory. Um I think the Bucs need to watch out because the Seahawks, this is this is a trap game to me.
SPEAKER_03:Look, the Seahawks have been getting better each week. Yeah, and they're looking like a formidable team. I I agree.
SPEAKER_05:I I think the Buccaneers need to take them very seriously.
SPEAKER_03:You're darn right they do, because the exact same thing they just faced dealing with uh the Eagles and being penetrating up the offensive line in the middle, the Seahawks can do the exact same thing. Yeah, they can push up the middle and cause chaos in your backfield, which is not spelling good things for Baker or Bucky Irvin.
SPEAKER_05:Nope. And then we kind of know how the Lions-Bengals game is probably gonna go uh until Joe Joe Burrow gets back.
SPEAKER_03:And same thing with the Cowboys, Jets.
SPEAKER_05:And the Cowboys and the Jets. Cowboys are gonna wax the Jets. We already know that's coming.
SPEAKER_03:And Dart's gonna get his second start in the league against the Saints, so uh probably come out with a win there.
SPEAKER_05:Honestly, I like Dart to win, but that's a trap game to me for the Giants because they need to take the Saints seriously in that one. Um, and I think they will, especially with rookie quarterback and rookie running back.
SPEAKER_03:Um well, and don't don't forget this game here, the Colts and Raiders.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I don't, yeah. The Raiders have some good moments, but I think the Colts are gonna wax that ass. I was waiting for you to say it. So, and then honestly, I think this is a good Monday night matchup here. Uh the Jaguars and the Chiefs. Uh, Chiefs are trying to get back on track, they're two and two. The Jaguars, as we already know, are three and one. Um, I think this is this is a week of trap games to me. I like this matchup right here because if the Chiefs aren't careful, they could end up losing this game.
SPEAKER_03:Um I'm telling you right now, it is very likely that they're gonna mess around and find out when it comes to these Jacksonville Jaguars.
SPEAKER_05:Sir, fuck around and find out FAFO.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. And and the point the point being, I told y'all that this team, go look at their defense if you play fantasy. You're gonna see they're much they're a much better defense than people know. You definitely check them out.
SPEAKER_05:They are a hot defense. And for the last part of tonight, Mike, I'm gonna ask you a series of questions, and I want you to say true or false, or agree-disagree, okay? We're just gonna run down the list real quick. I know we're short on time.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_05:Number one, Ashton Genty's stance is gonna make him elite. Yay or nay? His stance? The way he runs. Oh yeah, Genty would be fine. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:He just needs time.
SPEAKER_05:Dak Prescott is an MVP candidate.
SPEAKER_03:But the way he's been playing so far this season, yes.
SPEAKER_05:Isaiah Rogers is in defensive player of the year contention.
SPEAKER_03:No. No. I mean, yeah, he's had those two the the really good game where he had had a fumble recovery for a touchdown and a touchdown interception. Beyond that, I mean, you're you to get that, you gotta do something crazy. Like you gotta be like one of those guys that gets you know 17 sacks and you know, it you usually goes to a defensive end or or goes to a uh middle linebacker. You know, corner, it's very hard to get it as a corner unless you're like double-digit picks and multiple run backs.
SPEAKER_05:Um Travis Hunter should play WR full-time. I actually think he should play DB full-time.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I think he should play wide receiver full-time because based on what I saw from him on uh in the Niners game, he had some receptions there that just make me a believer. Like he needs to be full-time.
SPEAKER_05:I'm a believer.
SPEAKER_03:He needs to be a full-time receiver. He needs to not that he's not a good corner, but like he wasn't even defending the best receiver on the field when he was on the field.
SPEAKER_05:I'm a believer. I believe. I mean, okay. The Ravens will miss the playoffs this season. True. I think it's likely. Uh AJ Brown will eventually request a trade.
SPEAKER_03:I'm surprised he hasn't yet. I think I think what he's trying to he's trying to be a good soldier and he's trying to voice his opinion without voicing his opinion too loudly. And I think it's not gonna be like a diva moment where he comes out and says, give me a trade or else. I think it's gonna be like a quiet, you know, behind closed doors. I think I think that's how he is too. This is how it's gonna happen. When they rattle off a few losses and he's not a focal point in the offense, then he'll say it. The NFL should eliminate ties.
SPEAKER_05:100%, yes. I agree with that as well. Shadur Sanders will be QB1 by week eight. By week eight, him QB1? Yeah, I don't think so. I know, it's only a couple weeks away. And while we come into the closing here, the very last one, Tyreek Hill has played his last game with the Dolphins. 100%. I think so as well. Uh thank you everybody for joining us for another episode of Sports Talk. Uh, one last time, I'd like to thank our sponsors and partners, Body by D Gym, Solace Outfitters, and the Giving Tree Chiropractic. Uh, it's been a wild week, and it just seems like the season's getting more wild. Thank you again for the last time tonight. I'm Brian with an eye, and I'm Mike, and we are two for the win. Thanks, everybody.