Two for the Win
Mike is a U.S. Navy Veteran and Bryan has more than a decade of civil service experience. Together, these blue collar guys dissect the latest sports headlines and events.
Two for the Win
Two For The Win - S2.46 - Marathon Mariners, NFL Mayhem, Hot Seats & Hype!
Fifteen innings, one clutch single, and a whole lot of nerve—baseball set the tone this week as the Mariners survived a marathon and then walked into Toronto like they hadn’t just played until 1 a.m. We dig into the psychology of momentum vs rest, tip our caps to Brewers rookie Jacob Mizarowski for a icy four-inning start, and ask whether the Dodgers’ 2–0 surge says more about adjustments or pressure. October has a way of revealing who can execute when the stadium feels too loud to think.
Then we pivot to a clean WNBA coronation: Las Vegas Aces sweep the Mercury with poise, spacing, and timely stops. We also look at the Bucks making history with three Antetokounmpos under contract and why moves like that matter in a small market fight to keep a generational star. And yes, we talk Wembanyama—his closing speed at the arc, paint deterrence, and why “boring, winning basketball” will be his real superpower.
College football brought shock and shuffle. Indiana’s statement win challenged the idea that NIL only helps the blue bloods, while rankings swung, a massive buyout hit the news, and November paths began to emerge. We circle must-watch matchups—Alabama vs Tennessee, USC vs Notre Dame, Utah vs BYU—and map how they’ll reshape the top ten.
The NFL portion is a roller coaster. The Tush Push debate is back, the Panthers show real growth in a 30–27 win over Dallas, and the Colts quietly keep stacking wins with efficient offense and complementary defense. Seattle’s route discipline and Sam Darnold’s confidence beat a good Jaguars team, the Chargers edged Miami late, and the Chiefs slid past the Lions amid a no-penalties oddity that will fuel talk radio for days. Meanwhile, the Bills faltered, the Falcons reminded us they’re talented and unpredictable, and the Bears slipped by the Commanders after a painful late miscue. With the trade deadline looming, we separate buyers from sellers and flag the players who could actually move the needle.
Listen for sharp analysis, clear takeaways, and a few well-placed laughs. If you’re into MLB playoffs, WNBA champions, college shakeups, and NFL truth serum, you’ll feel right at home here. Enjoy the show—and if it hits the spot, follow, share with a friend, and drop a rating so more sports fans can find us.
October 15th, 2025. Welcome back everybody. Thank you once again for joining us for another episode of SportsBanter. I'm Brian with an I, and I'm Mike, and we are two for the win. Mike, what we have going on this evening? What's going on in the world today?
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's hard to believe, but we're already one-third of the way through the NFL season. We have the WNBA crowning a champion. College football doing its thing. And as always, we got some postseason baseball action to talk about.
SPEAKER_00:Postseason baseball. Man, let me tell you what. The NFL has been rolling fast, but before we get going too fast here, uh we just want to send our thoughts and prayers uh to those affected by this government shutdown. We are also affected. Uh so we're here with you. As you know, Mike's retired Navy and a government not retired, but former Navy. Sorry, uh civilians don't know these terms, but anyway. He's former serviceman himself and the government, works for government contractor. I'm also working for the government as well. Um, and so we're affected just like many of you are. So we're here with you, and we wish you all the best of luck, and we will get through this. Uh before we get rolling too fast here, I just want to thank you all or uh say thank you to all our sponsors and partners. Uh Body by D Gym, located in Yorktown and Gloucester. Uh, Deshaun's doing a great job of running that gym and building something community-oriented up there. He's a former bodybuilding champion and training other future bodybuilding champions in their own right, as well as many other things going up on up there. Uh, our good friends Caden and Christian over at Solace Outfitters, two young athletes building a sports brand, clothing brand at that. Uh, very two young, smart up and comers, by the way. And the Giving Tree Chiropractic Service down here in Virginia Beach. Justin's very good at what he does, making chiropractic services accessible to everybody. Thank you guys. We look forward to doing business uh more with you in the future. Mike, let's get rolling, bro.
SPEAKER_01:So, I've said it before, man. I love me some postseason baseball because it just gives all kinds of excitement. For those who might not be into baseball, you really need to watch the postseason to get a sense of the passion because every stadium fills out, the fans are going nuts, everybody wants to see their team win. Of course, I mean it's like all sports. You want to see your team win. But we got something pretty good in this recent series because we had two game vibes. We had a game five between the Brewers and the Cubs, and a game five between the Tigers and the Mariners. Now, for me, I kind of liked the Mariner series, but we're gonna start off talking a little bit about the Brewers and the Cubs because that was played in the Brewer's house up there in Milwaukee and got closed out with a three-to-one victory by the Brewers to move on to face the Dodgers. Which I know we're a little behind, but we're gonna get there and talk about what's going on with us while we catch you up. We're gonna get to the point where we talk about that series, but we gotta give a little nod to the past series because you know, a three-to-one victory, you need to know the details, man. And that's what we're gonna do. Let's drop the deets, bro. Drop the data. So I gotta give a little nod to the rookie of the Brewers, Jacob Mizarowski. He did his thing, he got out there, gave four innings, only gave up a run and three hits, struck out three. That one run he gave up was a home run. So one different pitch, and he didn't give up any. You know? So bottom line is this is a rookie. A rookie comes in, high pressure situation, and you're like, uh, you wonder if his nerves are gonna get to him, but no, he held his own. He held his own.
SPEAKER_00:They should call him miserable Mizerowski because he brings the misery to the opposing team.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you're not too far from the truth, man. The guy tops triple digits frequently and has some crazy breaking pitches that also can hit some high digits. So you gotta watch the guy pitch. You just gotta watch him pitch. He reminds me a little bit of like Randy Johnson when he came up, as far as like the way his pitches just come in, just come screaming in on you. But that's not to take away from the team itself. They had a lot of guys contributing that just they hit their spots when they needed to. That's the thing with these Brewers. It's not like you can point at one guy and be like, that's the guy that's gonna get you the win. You know, there's no guy on this lineup that you go, there's the air. It just truly is a team effort. It's just a true team effort. We like that. Yeah. And then that's what we want to see. You know, good team play. But the game I I watched, I watched every bit of this game. This game ended East Coast. I watched some of this series as well. This game for for the Mariners and Tigers ended at one o'clock in the morning when it started at eight. Now I know that's a drudge, but the reason it ended that way is it went to the 15th inning, man. Woo! 15th inning. There must be a winner. So the final score was Mariners three, tigers two. Now that's not to take anything away from the Tigers. The Tigers just seemed to be meeting them, you know, defensive efforts. Like there were so many double plays made in this game in high pressure situations to keep them in the game. I mean, their starter, Scoobyl, he went six innings, struck out 13 batters, and only gave up two hits.
SPEAKER_00:Man.
SPEAKER_01:And allowed one run. So I mean, come on, man. He gave everything he had. I mean, even their relievers were coming in and giving up some good, you know, good efforts. I mean, they you go over to the other side and you look at the uh Mariners, their closer went an inning and a third. I mean, he's only really supposed to go an inning, but he went inning and a third.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They brought in Gilbert, who's a starting pitcher, who gave him two innings, and then they brought in another one of the relief pitchers that gave him uh two and two-thirds inning, yeah, pitched, and struck out struck out four batters in that time and only gave up a hit. So these guys were doing their thing. Like they were meeting them pitch for pitch, and it just came up to Polanco hitting a single, getting in the winning run, and that was the only hit he had in the game, but it was the one hit they needed. The one hit they needed to win the game, and he got it, and got them to win, and they moved on. He got them over. They moved on, and they were gonna face the Blue Jays. Blue Jays now, mind you, this game happened Friday night, so they were gonna be playing this game against the Blue Jays on Sunday. So that means they're traveling Saturday, they're there Sunday, after just doing a 15-hour game, or not 15-hour 15 uh inning game.
SPEAKER_00:15 inning game.
SPEAKER_01:So you you figure the Toronto Blue Jays, they're probably you know, sitting there like, yes, go as long as you can. Just wear them pictures out. Yeah. Make them guys tired. We don't want them to come in this game fresh. Yeah, about that. Oh the Mariners, Seattle, the Mariners, they said, no, no, no, no, no. Hold my beer, watch this. They come in there, they take game one, and they take game two to give them a 2-0 series lead and going back to their house to play two more games to possibly sweep.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I really would have liked to see the Blue Jays take this all the way, but the Mariners are just, you know, they had that first round by, so now they're just coming out, they're still rather on the fresh side.
SPEAKER_01:And see, that's the funny part. Sometimes they say the team that doesn't have the buy seems to be more dialed in than the team that does. You know, and this doesn't just apply to baseball, this applies to all sports. It does, yeah. You know, sometimes teams just for whatever reason that buy just throws them off.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, if you watch the NFL for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because you're so used to routine and once your routine has changed a little, or you get a little extra break. For pitchers, pitchers love it. But everyday hitters, everyday fielders, it kind of throws them off a little, it seems now we say this not to not to get away from the other side, the NL side, because the Dodgers and the the Brewers, which we mentioned was the series that happened after they beat the Cubs. It's now 2-0 by the Dodgers. Now, I don't know how many people recall this, but in the season, the Brewers swept the Dodgers in their house. Now the Dodgers come in and they sweep them for the first two games to go back to LA and looking like they're probably gonna go ahead and take this on and probably sweep them. But I gotta give a nod to Blake Snell because that dude went eight innings when typically he only goes six innings pitched.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He was doing his thing, like he was pitching lights out. And it wasn't until he went into the dugout and was done with his night, and they brought brought in Blake Trident, and all of a sudden Brewers have bases loaded, yeah, and they're only down a few runs. It's like, uh oh, are we about to see a comeback? Are we about to see this team take the win? Maybe. Nope. Nope. They shut it down, they figured it out. So rebup. So we're gonna figure out what's gonna happen here in these series. Uh I got a question for you, Brian. Ooh, I love questions sometimes. Being the fact that these two series are both 2-0 and they're going to the the team that's ups home. Do you think either of the teams that are down 2-0 will make a comeback?
SPEAKER_00:You know, I love questions like this. Um honestly, it's tough because you get out to a lead 2-0 like that. Now you have to win two and then win another one to take the series. So you basically have to win. Oh, these are seven-game series. Okay, yeah. Okay, so you gotta win four games. Actually, that might be a blessing in disguise for these for these two down teams. Um, you know, honestly, I don't see the Brewers coming. The Dodgers are just such a good team, man. And don't get me wrong, the Brewers are good too. But I I just don't see them coming back on the Dodgers. Now, the Blue Jays, I think if they play their cards right, I think the Blue Jays can make a comeback on the Mariners. Um, and I honestly favor the Blue Jays for the comeback as well. Um, but you know, I don't think the Brewers are coming back on the Dodgers. I I think they may win one or two games in the series, but I think the Dodgers gonna close this out on them. So you don't think either either series is gonna be a sweep? I don't think either series is gonna be a sweep.
SPEAKER_01:I tend to tend to agree that that's a possibility that neither one is a sweep.
SPEAKER_00:I think the most likely is the Brewers and the Dodgers. But I don't I don't think the Mariners are gonna sweep the Blue Jays.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I always like to because until it happened, no one had really gone, you know, to a 3-0 and then you know lost the series until the Yankees had that happen to them against the Red Sox years ago. And you know, because everybody's like, nah, it'll never happen. And then the Red Sox win one. And it's like, nah, it's it's alright, they got one, and yeah, they're not gonna sweep us, they're not gonna get it. And then they won two. And it's like, yeah, yeah, that's that's cute. They're not gonna get three. Cute. And then they got three, and it's like, damn it, we better win this seventh game.
SPEAKER_00:Where have we been this whole time? Yeah, we let them creep up on us like this.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes. So there's always a bit of worry there. But actually, tonight we're gonna get our answer of whether the Blue Jays can kind of make a comeback because we're gonna have the Mariners playing the Blue Jays in Seattle. But question. Yes. Do you remember Cal Raleigh's nickname?
SPEAKER_00:You know what? I'm drawing, I'm brain farting here for some reason. You're close by that statement. Go ahead and lay it on me. The big dumper. That's right. Yeah, that's what I wanted to say. I can't believe a one-ray for that. The big dumper. The big dumper.
SPEAKER_01:So never to never to get away from a chance to make some profit or get some advertising going. Uh, we have an unusual company that's trying to make a little boom for their company based on this series. There's a company called Cam Soda. And no, it's not a drink company. Is it by Cam Newton? I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you what this is. And this, like the headline is what grabbed me on this article by by TMZ that says Porn Site offers fans butt plugs, you heard me right, butt plugs for for this new this series giveaway in honor of the big dumper. So a spokesman for Cam Soda said that Raleigh, his famous nickname, the Big Dumper, keeping uh shining in the postseason, uh, wants to capitalize on the craze by doling out sex toys ahead of the Mariners game against the Blue Jay. So I'm not quite sure what this is gonna mean as far as like they have little mariners and blue jays logos on them during the game, but but even even some fans have been seen at the game with these like t-shirts that have a butt.
SPEAKER_00:Wow, that guy is on some insane. He's got the weird, that crazy looking one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's there's one where there's actually a in this article, there's a picture of a guy standing behind home plate while Cal Raleigh is at bat with it with a with the shirt plug with his number 29 on the butt plugs.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe they'll have little individual numbers on the ends. I'm not sure of your favorite player or your team logo.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not sure how this is going to be received. Custom order butt plugs.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not how I'm not sure specialty of the 2025 MLB postseason.
SPEAKER_01:Basically, if you watch tonight's game and you see something unusual, you know, because we've had we've had this in sports where we had dillies thrown on courts, but now we're gonna have these things and maybe being thrown onto the field. But I'm just saying, like, I can't imagine it's hurt.
SPEAKER_00:I can't imagine a female owning this for herself. I mean, I guess I could if she's a big sports fan. I know some of them, but you know, imagine pulling this out and utilizing it years from now, like, oh man, I remember that postseason. Like, let's use this one. I this is what this one was a winner.
SPEAKER_01:When I read this article, I was just flabbergasted that this is happening. So if you're watching the game and you see something that looks inappropriate, you're probably right. You did see what you saw. So if you needed another reason to watch the Mariners Blue Jays game, you've got one now. Or maybe if you want to go back and see the highlights, you've got one now.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the WNBA has dillies, MLB has butt plugs. I wonder what the NFL will have. Oh, they have streaking, that's right.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, don't forget, the original dilly throw was in the NFL and it was at Tom Brady by Buffalo Bills fans. You know, I remember that. I do too, because I was watching the game and I was like vaguely I remember that. I was like, what it what is that? Did they just throw Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_00:Bro, it's weird to look back on things that we were present for at this day and age, right?
SPEAKER_01:The funny, the funniest part about it was even the announcers wanted to go back and do a play-by-play, basically looking at what it was thrown at Tom Brady, and then they were quickly like, oh, we're not gonna show that now. We're not gonna show that now.
SPEAKER_00:Because they figured out what is explicit, sir. We're not allowed to show that. That's not family-oriented. Well, we all know what we saw.
SPEAKER_01:We all know what we saw. Speaking of things that were seen and maybe some fans might not be happy with.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we can I was gonna say, who do we well what we just talked about baseball, so that's fine. Uh I was gonna say, who do we think is gonna win it all? But let's wait until we see who's in the final, in the final World Series game. Yeah. Uh but as you alluded to, going over to the WNBA side, uh, we talked a little bit about the Aces and the Mercury kicking off their finals, their championship series. Uh, the Aces, as predicted, have swept Phoenix Mercury 4-0.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and speaking of things, if you're a Mercury player or fan, you don't want to see this. Is what you didn't want to see, but hey, you just ran into a better team.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean the Aces are a very well put together team. Um, just I don't know a ton about WNBA, but they just looked. And don't be wrong, Mercury gave them a good run in a couple of these matchups. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Let's not let's not all it wasn't like they went out there and got stomped, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Well, let's let's keep it in context here. Remember that the Mercury did knock out the number one seed links out of the playoffs when they they were only considered they were only a four seed. They were nobody was really considering them to make the finals, yeah. They just they played tough, they made their way into the finals, they had a shot because the biggest thing is be there, get there, and you have a shot. And they were there. And unfortunately, the Vegas aces were just the better team.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And they they rolled out what they needed to do in a game plan, and they won.
SPEAKER_00:A hell of a run by Phoenix. Uh but congratulations, Las Vegas. Uh, your aces are the WNBA champions. You know, there's not much more you need to say. I mean, good luck next season. Congratulations. Good luck next season, I guess. Um, but I like it. You know, uh, I thought that was a good matchup. And, you know, let's roll on in here to some uh NBA action. Uh, just a couple things here while I dis disorganise my notes. Uh so the Bucks must be desperate to keep Giannis, right? Because they are now signing out Alex and Akupo to a two-way contract, officially making them the first team in NBA history with three brothers on an active roster under contract. Okay. Uh the these guys doing anything to make Giannis stay, right, Mike?
SPEAKER_01:Like, you know, it's it's not so the Bucks, I gotta give it to them. They know who the he is, and they know that they they are a small market team and they're gonna do things to appease their star, you know, and they're gonna and probably their fan base too. Well, that too. I mean, one kind of fit feeds the other, you know. Their favorite player is probably Giannis. And if you want to keep your favorite player, you gotta do things to make them happy, yeah. And they have done that over the years, they have brought in players and kept players that maybe were a little long in the tooth, but because he was a player that they wanted or he Giannis wanted, they just rolled with it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, they I'm eager to see how that plays out. I mean, clearly they must feel that his brothers have some talent as well, otherwise, they would probably just be a hard no. Um, but you know, it can't be worse, it can't be worse than LeBron getting Bronny in there. True. And Bronny's kind of starting to come around, but he's got some work to do as well. But that's why he gets dropped down to the G League and gets some more basketball reps in.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he would have benefited a lot more to having another year in college and probably going to a different school where he could have been a featured player and boost his draft stock.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Sitting there going to a team, you know, that you weren't really getting starting reps, you really weren't really you know, highlighted as a player. And now, granted, I know he had the heart thing, and I know he had other issues that kind of prevented him from being on the court at times, but you kind of it was a it was a whole situation where who is this really benefiting?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:His father, not him.
SPEAKER_00:Now the now the the Bucks G League team is the herd, right? Um, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, don't don't even try to quiz me on the G League.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I just see I just see one of his brothers who I suspect is Alex. Uh he's wearing a herd jersey. So maybe that two-way contract, I gotta familiarize myself with how two-way contracts work, but maybe that means he can play G-League and in the big league too. I'm not sure. Um, but you know, I think that's good for them as brothers. I'm eager to see it play out this season. Uh by the way, NBA regular season starts tip-off October 21st. We're just days away from it. So everybody's less than a week.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and what we see, uh Westbrook. Oh, yeah. Uh Russell Westbrook signed with the Kings.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, signed with the Kings. That just came out just a little bit ago. But Met Mike, I have a question for you. And we'll we'll double we'll double dip on this one when we get to the NBA. If you could start an NBA team with any current player, who would it be? Wimbayama.
SPEAKER_01:Wimbayana? Okay. Wimbayama of the Spurs. I I you can't you can't get much better than a guy who can be in the paint and still defend the three-point line. You know, like he's he can be in the paint and move out with like a step and be covering the three-point line, basically. And he's he can actually move the ball with handles, and you know, he's he's a unicorn. You don't see players that are as big as he is move like he does and be able to shoot like he does.
SPEAKER_00:Interesting approach, sir. I've never heard the term unicorn applied to an athlete.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, it it is what it is.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, like I was thinking, you know, we're while we're being inappropriate.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we hear this term all the time where people say generational talent. Well, this truly is a generational talent. He's just gonna need time.
SPEAKER_00:I think so.
SPEAKER_01:You know, because let's not forget, he he was playing professional ball over in Europe, he was playing for France, and he's still a young player, so now he's trying to get into the NBA and deal with NBA speed, NBA games, the mentality of play in the NBA. Because I mean, let's face it, the the European model isn't necessarily the same as the NBA model, and over there they teach more of a team-oriented game. Nobody's like definitely ball-centric necessarily over there. You see, if you watch most players that come over that are European, yeah, they they have better passing skills than our players do. You know, the US player just is more concerned about theirs. I hate to say it.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, and and as a bonus, what would you name this team and then what city would you place them in? This is just for shits and gigs.
SPEAKER_01:Well there's there's always been talk about expanding majority of the lease, because expansion means more money. Always. You know, it means more money for the owners, so they're always on board as long as things can work be worked out. Um as far as where?
SPEAKER_00:Let's get a name first. Unless you prefer to have the city locked down.
SPEAKER_01:I'd like to have a city lockdown because that might influence what you would name it.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:You know, because like you you're not gonna, you're not gonna well, this is this is how we wind up with teams called the Jazz in Utah, you know, when they used to be in New Orleans and then they moved, or you wind up with a team called the Lakers in, you know, Los Angeles when they used to be in Minneapolis. Yeah. So the name made a lot more sense when it was in Minneapolis, it did Los Angeles.
SPEAKER_00:It did. I wondered this for a long time until I found that information.
SPEAKER_01:And then the same thing with the jazz. It made more sense when it was in New Orleans, but you know, they didn't change the name, they just kept the name. So it's kind of it's kind of like when the Titans, when they first moved to Tennessee, they were still the Oilers.
SPEAKER_00:They're still the Oilers, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And it was like, uh Oilers?
SPEAKER_00:And I'm taking I'm taking Steph Curry, and we're moving that ass over here to Naufuck. We're calling him the destroyers. The king of three points is gonna run the destroyers on through everybody else.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like you asked this question just to have that happen.
SPEAKER_00:No, I did. I literally just thought that because originally I was gonna take Kevin Durant, but then I thought about Steph Curry.
SPEAKER_01:You do realize that Steph's close to retirement, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's fine.
SPEAKER_01:So why didn't you choose somebody that was a little younger?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I didn't want to.
SPEAKER_01:Well, wait a second. Wait a second, wait a second. Or now now I now I gotta now I gotta wonder. I there are now that now that now the brain's rolling, there are other options. So are you gonna start going past or present on me real quick? Past or present player?
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no. Current player. Current player, okay. Current player, and Steph's still is pretty good. He got a little pep in his step, too. He's not, you know, he's not missing a step yet.
SPEAKER_01:So okay. I'm surprised you didn't pick Harden because he's one of your favorite players.
SPEAKER_00:I was I thought about I had a I had a list of players rotating in my head, and you know, somehow we landed on Steph Curry, who wasn't even on any of the lists, so hey. I just thought I'd take the three-point king.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I still need to answer your question because I never did.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I thought that was old news by now. No, I mean, like And nothing better than Steph Curry on the three-point king destroyer.
SPEAKER_01:If you asked me to name a city and what would I call the team?
SPEAKER_00:And you failed.
SPEAKER_01:You didn't give me a shit.
SPEAKER_00:You talked all the way through.
SPEAKER_01:You didn't get a shot. You didn't give me a shot.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't pass you the ball.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're being ball dominant. You were you don't have the European model, you're not gonna pass me the ball. Anyway, what are you do you got a name or not? I will put the team Mike to call them the seltzers. No, I will put would you stop? I will put the team in Nashville. Oh I put the team in Nashville because Nashville is kind of up and coming right now. Music City. Yes, or Music City, but they already have the Titans, they already have the Predators, the hockey team, so they already have an arena. So all they have to do is just be able to play basketball in the arena. So one less one less hurdle in order for that to happen. And I don't know. I mean, we could come up, we could come up with a you know kind of a they could be the trombones.
SPEAKER_00:No, sir. Or the banjos. The banjo kazoois.
SPEAKER_01:No, sir. Come on. They're the banjo kazoois. Why you gotta do that? Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Give them a little more respect for that.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, you're right. They're the Star Foxes.
SPEAKER_01:Good lord, sir. Good sir. The Luigi's good lord. No, no. Like you put me on the spot. I'm trying to come up with a name, and you can you could just keep alright. I got it.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:How about the Mustangs?
SPEAKER_00:I thought you'd use some creativity here.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, it's country. They have horses.
SPEAKER_00:They do. They could be the Ford Mustangs.
SPEAKER_01:I was I was gonna say, I was gonna say, you know, something tied to whiskey, but I don't think that would be a good idea.
SPEAKER_00:They could be the wild turkeys. Yes, sir. They are the your team is the wild turkeys. Lord. They also have their own alcohol brand, their own whiskey brand.
SPEAKER_01:You're just gonna have a stand full of people going go.
SPEAKER_00:It's not like it hasn't happened before. Usually to make fun of somebody, though, not out of team pride. But anyway, that was a fun, that was a fun little exercise, and we'll revisit that question again when we get to our flagship sport of the NFL. But for right now, Mike and our listeners, we're gonna talk some college football here. Let's get rolling. Yeah, yeah. I was about to say, don't you skip over to NFL and not give college.
SPEAKER_01:You mean skip over to college and No, you were about to skip to NFL, it sounded like.
SPEAKER_00:I almost no, I'm just you know, foreshadowing, you know, setting the suspense. You know, keeping our listeners tuned in. If they didn't already tune out from Don't touch that pause button. Stop it. Or the fast forward button. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER_01:We're not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_00:There should be no commercial breaks. You're right. Anyway.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe one day. Oh, good God. Anyway, moving right along, we're going to get right into the past week of NFL. Let's dive in head first. Dive in head first, like I do to those jump parks. Okay. Probably no surprise to anybody that Ohio State beat Illinois 34 to 16. You know, a one C taking on 17. Not really a big surprise. They've kind of been dominant in every game this year so far. Uh coming over to the big upset of the weekend that most people didn't see coming.
SPEAKER_00:Indiana, Oregon, by the way, I hit a parlay on this matchup. That was great.
SPEAKER_01:Indiana wins this game 30 to 20 over Oregon. And what makes this kind of crazy is you remember when they were talking about NIO and how NIO was gonna change college football? It was gonna make the rich richer, you know, the Bamas, the all the big name schools are gonna be the ones winning.
SPEAKER_00:We're doing spirit fingers while we say it like this. But here's the thing.
SPEAKER_01:When when in all of that did anybody say that Indiana football was a big school? Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana. When did anybody say that Indiana was gonna be a powerhouse? But keep in mind, they were in the playoffs last year. They're here again this year playing well. I mean, they're six and oh and three and oh in the Big Ten.
SPEAKER_00:Oregon about to change their name to oregano because they ain't got no spice. Hey, they're still five and one and two and one in the Big Ten, so they're it's not like they're awful. But I'm gonna be honest with you. Number seven ranked Indiana is six and oh and three and oh in the Big Ten, looking considerably better than Oregon.
SPEAKER_01:I just said that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah. Well, I probably wasn't listening. Yeah. And I was probably trying to think of my Regano joke.
SPEAKER_01:Good lord. Anyway. And Old Miss still doing its thing. It it held on to a tight game there with Washington State. And they're 6-0. They did. And they're 5-0 at home.
SPEAKER_00:Good job staying undefeated there for that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're they're playing quite well. Texas AM over Florida. The one other big upset Texas. Yes. Texas.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Oklahoma where the sun comes on and on over.
SPEAKER_01:As he alluded. They all have their Oklahoma. So by a final score of 23-6. So Texas is kind of right in the ship with a 4-2 record and a 1-1 record in the SEC.
SPEAKER_00:Not bad.
SPEAKER_01:So they're unranked right now, as of this game. We'll see if they're back in the standings in the AP poll after this. Oh, Archie. So the one game we kind of thought there might be a little bit of upset was the Missouri and Alabama game. Proved to not be the case. Alabama held out for a 27-24 victory.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, and they're they're uh 3-0 in the SEC. Missouri 1-1 in the SEC. So yeah, they're they're still close, but you know, look for Alabama to hold their spot or get promoted.
SPEAKER_01:And Georgia won their game. Texas Tech won their game. LSU won their game. Beating South Carolina. Tennessee had a tight game against Arkansas, which is crazy. Because Arkansas is only 2-4 on the season and 0-2 in the SEC. Yeah. So it's like, okay, well, that was a fluke.
SPEAKER_00:Not looking good in the division there in the conference. Uh final Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, nobody cares about either of those schools.
SPEAKER_01:How about USC pulling off a defeat of Michigan, rank 15 Michigan gets defeated by USC 31, Michigan 13?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was a good win for USC. Maybe that gets them back in the ranking conversation. Michigan, you know, number 15, they're kind of middle of the pack in the top 25 there. So um, yeah, that was a good upset. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Notre Dame got themselves another win to put them four and two on the season. That's right. Three and one at home.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. Beating NC State, my cousin's alma mater, Wolfpack.
unknown:Woo!
SPEAKER_00:That was the ghost version of a wolf. That was not, that was how that came out.
SPEAKER_01:And how about Dion getting his Colorado Buffalo a win over 22-ranked Iowa State with a 24 to 17 victory?
SPEAKER_00:You know, ironically, I actually see people repping Colorado State gear out here in Virginia. I've never seen that before in my entire life. Wow. And then unranked Pittsburgh taking down the last ranked Florida State, who will probably knock them completely out of the rankings this week.
SPEAKER_01:Speaking of the rankings, let's just go and do a little look in and do the top 10 as well. Top 10 time right now.
SPEAKER_00:We're gonna call this top ten time. Go ahead, kick us off. Oh, I'm kicking. Top 10! Everybody's favorite quarterback university, LSU.
SPEAKER_01:If I had a Homer button, I'd be pushing it right now. Hey, Joe Burrow.
SPEAKER_00:Joe Burrow went to LSU.
SPEAKER_01:I know, but you're not saying it for that.
SPEAKER_00:So did Tyran Matthew, the honey badger.
SPEAKER_01:He's not a quarterback. He was a safety. No, but he's a cornerback. He's a safety. He's a DB back. Anyway, whatever. At number nine, Georgia.
SPEAKER_00:Joja. Number eight sitting the big O, Oregon. At number seven, Texas Tech. Number six is Alabama. Number five, Old Miss. Number four, Texas AM.
SPEAKER_01:And just breaking into the number three spot, moving up four positions, Indiana. Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana.
SPEAKER_00:Number three. Alright, number two is Miami. And of course, number one is still Ohio State. And that four jump for Indiana is massive, by the way.
SPEAKER_01:And as we alluded to earlier, yes, USC did climb into the pole. They are in there at number 20.
SPEAKER_00:Mike, let's look at this. Oklahoma dropping like a rock eight spots down to number 14 outside of the top 10.
SPEAKER_01:Which I I have to question a little because when you're five and one and you have a Notre Dame team that's four and two and started off the season looking awful, for you to be behind them is a little questionable.
SPEAKER_00:It might be the teams that they lost, it might be the team they lost to. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01:And also, as we alluded to, Texas has climbed back into the poll where they're ranked 21 now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we have one, two, three, five teams that were not ranked prior that are now sitting in the top 25.
SPEAKER_01:Well, since you brought it up, at 25, Nebraska, at 24, Cincinnati, and at 23, Utah. So yeah, we had a quite a bit of a shuffle on the back end of the rankings there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Not bad. Things are moving around. This is the time where you see a lot of movement.
SPEAKER_01:It just it just shows that even though you're an unranked team, if you can put a good showing on tape and have some good games at the right moment, you can crack back into the rankings. And it just takes a few a few wins in a row to launch you up the rankings because just look at where Indiana is. Remember, Indiana was not in the top ten when we first started talking college football.
SPEAKER_00:I don't even know if were they even ranked when we started college football?
SPEAKER_01:Were they even on the board? Yeah, they were they were on the board. But I think they were like, you know, in the world.
SPEAKER_00:They were outside the top ten somewhere, though, yeah. But now they've climbed all the way into the third spot. Indiana looking hot, man. I gotta give it to them. Yeah. Now let's talk about upcoming matchups.
SPEAKER_01:Well, before we talk about that, did you notice a huge firing in the college ranks? Oh There's a certain team that is not up there anymore, who was ranked at the beginning of the year. Certain Nittany Lions? Panther?
SPEAKER_00:You know. The Nittany Cats. The Nittany Panthers. You know what I'm talking about. Nittany Bobcats.
SPEAKER_01:Penn State. Penn State. Penn State is no longer in the ranking. I think they're the Nittany Lions. Yeah, Nittany Lions. Anyway. They fired their big old cat.
SPEAKER_00:That's right. They did fire their head coach. Yes, they did. We didn't even I didn't even get that in the notes this time.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, they fired their head coach. He'll probably wind up somewhere else because coming from a big program, you can go pretty much write your ticket to another school. I mean, once you once you break another, but when you rattle off three losses in a row, all games you were ranked higher, you were supposed to be winning those games. You came in as the favorite and lost all three. Favorite. There is no reason for that. So they got the big old boot out there. Boot. Now, mind you. Minding. They had to pay him$49 million to go away.
unknown:Whew.
SPEAKER_01:They were that unhappy with his system. Sir, we need to become college football coaches and we need to get to a big program where they just pay you to go away.
SPEAKER_00:Sir, I'll go coach the I'll go coach a community college at this point. If they're making 50 million on that level, I'll go to community college and at least make a hundred grand a year. No, no. I'm down with that.
SPEAKER_01:Uh you're mistaken, sir. That's not where that happens. You're right. It's probably that's not where that happens. Maybe as not what happens. Maybe as an assistant coach. No, I well, yeah, you gotta start as an assistant coach. You don't just come in and be the head coach.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna start experience. You know, I could start as the ball boy, you know, like Dan Snyder, and then work my way up to ownership. Right. It's hard to do. It's gonna be hard, it's gonna be hard to do at 37. I've already lost 17 years of progress. So there's that.
SPEAKER_01:Um Yeah, I'm I'm not really thinking you can just jump in like that. Probably not. Anyway, let's look at some of these games coming up next week. Okay. And uh see what ones kind of pop out to us because I kind of like this Alabama and Tennessee game. You know, you got six-ranked Alabama going against number 11 ranked Tennessee. I feel like that's one of those games that like when you just hear it, it sounds like a big game.
SPEAKER_00:Bowls versus Bama. Crimson Tad. Crimson Tide, big red. What else we got up here? I don't know, sir. I have nothing. What about Duke recently? Vanderbilt and LSU. I do want to see that. Number 17 ranked Vanderbilt going against number 10 LSU. That'll that'll be good. Uh let's see here. Yukon's only good in March Madness when basketball starts up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we just need to find some other interesting matches because we got we got games all over the place. I mean, Penn State is actually going against Iowa, so that you know that might be a good bounce back game for them.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Maryland, UCLA, that'd a good that'd be a good matchup. Uh let's see here. Colorado's going to Hawaii, or actually, Hawaii's coming to Colorado.
SPEAKER_01:What about the recently cracked into the the rankings USC going against Notre Dame? That's a classic, classic rivalry game in Notre Dame. That should be a pretty good matchup. That'd be a good one as well. Where is Indiana? And it's and it's a a good game for the fact that they got it in the prime slot at 7 30 on NBC. And on Peacock. Yeah, and on Peacock because people stream.
SPEAKER_00:We're in the officially in the era of streaming. I'm trying to find Indiana real quick. Where are they at up here? And no, they have a Indiana taking on Michigan State. I expect them to blow them out.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, because they're one, they're unranked, and two, they're not going to be a good situation for them. No, not right now. No, what about that that Utah and BYU game?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's one of those those low-key games that could turn into a pretty good game, especially for Utah.
SPEAKER_00:That's a hold your ground game for BYU. They gotta win that, or they know they're dropping hard.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, yeah, especially if you lose to a 23rd ranked team that just cracked the ranking.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, who just now got ranked. You know, Nevada, New Mexico, they're not ranked, but I think that'll be a good matchup. Uh Florida State and Stanford. Uh by the way, Stanford, Andrew Luck trying to bring that program back to life.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, neither do I.
SPEAKER_01:You need a lot more than just uh well, they did get a big boost, like we said last week.
SPEAKER_00:They got that one million dollar donation, largest in school history uh for any sports program there. So that's good for them to start out with with that NIL stuff going on. But here we go, guys. Are you guys ready for our flagship sport of the evening? The NFL. Yeah, we love talking to it. Or our flagship organization of the evening. It's weird. Topic. It's weird leaving in a company.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe flagship topic or the thing we love to talk about most, NFL football.
SPEAKER_00:That's right. Saving the best for last, because nobody eats their dessert first. That's not true. Unless you're 12.
SPEAKER_01:That's not true either. When you're adult, you can do what you want.
SPEAKER_00:Before we jump into some of these news stories, do we want to talk about last week's matchups or do we want to go down the go down the agenda first?
SPEAKER_01:Well, what you got? What you got? You got some stories to put out?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, we got some stories to put out. Most of the stories we picked up from other people's writing, but you know, we're not journalists. We're just here to spread the word and talk shit about it. But anyway, uh Micah Parsons crushes the Eagles with a forward tweet after the consecutive uh touch-push plays. This is something you put in here, Mike. Yep. Uh what is what does this tweet say here? He said, This is not football. That's right.
SPEAKER_01:I remember the I agree with wholeheartedly.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, football evolves, sports evolve. You know, some people play rugby as football, and some people play football as football. Sir.
SPEAKER_01:Stop defending an ugly, stupid, pain in the ass play. Look, if Jalen Hurts is as good as they say, he can squat 600 pounds, he can go and do a QB sneak and get a first down. He doesn't need he doesn't need somebody doing the two-thumb hook to push him up on his butt.
SPEAKER_00:By the way, oh, maybe they can use one of those baseball butt plugs to do it. Anyway, by the way, the Giants beat the hell out of them after they ran the Tushbush play four times in a row. By the way, new nickname. Um, if Montgomery and Gibbs are Sonic and Knuckles, they got Scatabow and Dart as Arm and Hammer. And I fully agree with it. I'm gonna get a Washington jersey and put Scatebo's name on it because I just like him that much.
SPEAKER_01:You you could just get his Arizona jersey and has the redskin colors.
SPEAKER_00:Not the same.
SPEAKER_01:I said redskins.
SPEAKER_00:I mean I would like a high probability of getting jumped whenever I go out in it.
SPEAKER_01:I think you would just get confusion from both fan bases. Like, wait a minute, what? They're like maybe like, wait a minute, what? We want to kick this dude's butt.
SPEAKER_00:Is this an older scatabow?
SPEAKER_01:What is this? Is that a TB on your team?
SPEAKER_00:Where do you even get something like that? I can't believe they even allowed you to do that. Yeah, NFL custom jerseys, duh. Anyway. Anyway.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, this was not this was not a game that I really saw going this way. I mean, like, yeah, it's a divisional matchup game. When you have any divisional matchup game, you can almost throw the records out the window because things happen.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and by the way, can we talk about this concussion protocol? Because I'm pretty sure Brian Dable was like, fuck your concussion protocol. I need my QB now. Yeah, after seeing one tip pass by by Wilson. I just imagine still seeing in my head. Russell throws one tipped pass into the ground, Dayball flips his shit. Give me my quarterback back. Let's get this guy out of here. Yeah, he's sitting there screaming into the tent and Dart screaming back, I'm good, coach, I'm good. Scatabow goes in there with some smelling salts.
SPEAKER_01:Shoot. Scatobo goes in there and they kick him out. They're like, What are you doing in here? Get out. This is private. Look, are you surprised that Scatapow, the guy that like is basically head diving into every play, is gonna just bull rush in the tent.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, doc, check me too while you got this thing open. Lord. Anyway. These two are a trip, man. Let me tell you what. They almost got me jumping ship.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you gotta give some nod to to their receiver Robinson. Yeah, Wandell. Yeah, he was doing his thing. He had quite a few yards in that game himself.
SPEAKER_00:He did, in fact. And uh, you know, they they just kind of pulled it together. Jackson Dart has this team rolling. I'm not a big fan of Brian Dable, which is why I like to make fun of him so much.
SPEAKER_01:Do you realize that that pick play that when Ertz threw the or not Ertz? Yeah, when Ertz threw the pass, he was sitting there running the same play that they ran. It was like the fourth time they ran that play. And the DB just undercuts the route, gets the pick, and almost takes it for six, if it wasn't for an Eagles player just bumping the crap out of him out of bounds, which was amazing, by the way. But it's just like, what in the world? I mean, this is like crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the the Eagles get punched in the face twice now. Brought down to earth is probably four and two, Giants are two and four, the Cowboys have some weird concoction of win, loss, and ties, and the the Washington is three and three.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like it's a it, you know, a flip of a coin of what Dallas is gonna do every week. You know, some weeks it feels like their offense can't be stopped, they're gonna win this game.
SPEAKER_00:Look, what it what happened to them versus the Panthers, we'll get to shortly, but they just took their foot off the pedal. They you cannot let teams just come back on you like that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I digress. Let's talk about the early Sunday game that most people didn't even know was happening and weren't really impressed by its outcome in the first place. I know I was because the Broncos and Jets with a uh 13 to 11 victory.
SPEAKER_00:Look, this was a disappointing game to me. Not only did I lose my parlays, but I expected the Broncos to have a much higher scoring game.
SPEAKER_01:Here's the thing their quarterback, Justin Fields, finished with Jets quarterback. Yeah, Jets.
SPEAKER_00:I just got done talking about the Broncos. I don't want to confuse people.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Fair enough. So the Jets, their quarterback finishes with like a negative 10 passing yards. And he basically was doing like the SATs, where if you just put your name on the paper, you automatically get points. He had the lowest QB rating ever. I think it was like a 58 or something like that. You know, whatever you get for just showing up and throwing passes, whether you're good or not. He came out with the lowest QB rating ever. I believe it. With a negative 10 passing.
SPEAKER_00:You know, they're 0-6 now under Aaron Glenn's first year. Do you think they're gonna keep Aaron Glenn or do you think he's gone? No, he's gone. Because it's only been one year. I mean, we've seen coaches last through worse. Well, kind of.
SPEAKER_01:You can't you gotta see something. You gotta see some progression towards the team getting better, or at least playing hard, or at least looking like a team that has the fundamentals figured out. Yeah, they're not even getting the basics right.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, they're talking about trading Brees Hall now, which again we'll get to down the road.
SPEAKER_01:They're talking about trading anything and everything to get themselves some picks to build the team. And it's like, but wait a second, you have good players, you should not be playing.
SPEAKER_00:They do. Honestly, I think they need some better protection on the line, but I honestly I don't think Justin Fields is the answer. I think he's obviously just a fill-in. He's just what they got. Uh now they probably uh I don't know what other receivers they have. I know they have Garrett Wilson, who is a just a stud, WR1 all day. They got a good running game. Uh, like I said, they need a little more protection, a little more blocking up front. But outside of that, get a quarterback, maybe another receiver. You know, uh, they don't really have a speed back. All their backs are heavy downhill runners. Uh they need a receiving threat. And I well, you know, I I think that other guy, uh I forget his name, but they don't they don't really have that. Defense is rather strong. They're okay, they're holding tight. I mean, they held the Broncos at 13 points. So I don't know. I don't know. I I would like to see Aaron Glenn get at least one more season. But I know it it might be a tall order. And the Jets, the ownership, not very patient ownership group. No, no, they're not.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but moving right along into the next game, which is the Rams and Ravens, which the much maligned Ravens, man, these injuries have taken their toll because they're now one and five. You know, the final score in that game was 17-3. And, you know, in the beginning of the game, it looked like they were kind of holding tight, and you know, the score wasn't like blowing out. It was 3-3 for a little bit, but it just wasn't their game. Like they just pulled away.
SPEAKER_00:The rain the Rams proved to be the better team, just injury-riddled Ravens, and you know, injuries have kind of been the name of the game this year. So many top performers across the league are just out, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just not a good season for health. I don't know what that is due to.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and in that game, Napuka Nakua, he got hit at one point. Well, not hit, he went up for a uh pass and he came down kind of weird, and it it wasn't looking good. But he eventually but he eventually came back in. Um, but it you know, for them, they're they're happy he's okay. But for there, for a moment there, it was pretty scary. Like, oh my, we're about to lose our best receiver.
SPEAKER_00:For the Ravens offense, you can just see how crucial Lamar is to that whole system being successful because even Derrick Henry really can't get going without Lamar there to kind of take some attention away. Um, Cooper Rush is definitely obviously not the guy. I don't even think he's a good backup quarterback.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they eventually took him out of the game and put Huntley in.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's right. They put Brett Huntley in. And uh, you know, he again. He's a backup quarterback for a reason. Yeah, they're backups, they're not really doing, but you you like competency in your backup, right? And everybody's not fortunate enough to have that.
SPEAKER_01:But how are you supposed to have competency when you have so many gaps in your team? Like you have so many players that are out that you can't play your full compliment.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the the majority of their injuries are on defense, their offense is a relatively good tact, but But that's the problem.
SPEAKER_01:You need to have your defense up to speed because the Bengals showed this last year. Yeah, they could score lights out, but they had to get in shootouts to win. Well, if you can't even get a defensive stop or hold a team or create some turnovers, get some pressure, and give your offense a chance with short yardage, you're not really setting yourself up for winning.
SPEAKER_00:It could have been worse because it was only 17 to 3. I mean, it they didn't even break 20. So their defense held a little bit to some extent. They just obviously got outran. But, you know, I had I think I, like other people, had much higher hopes. I think it's safe to say the Ravens at one and five are not turning things around this season.
SPEAKER_01:No, it doesn't look good. They would have to rattle off like 10 victories.
SPEAKER_00:This is this is kind of the point in in the season where you may still some people see some teams teetering on the line of competitiveness and not, but the teams who are really playoff ready really begin to separate themselves here at this point in the season.
SPEAKER_01:And this is this is the point in time because we're coming up on the trade deadline where teams are gonna start to identify are we in or are we out, and try to figure out if they're gonna be sellers or buyers or if they're gonna hold pat yeah and and not do anything. And we're getting to that point, you know, we're really close.
SPEAKER_00:Uh speaking of selling and buying, I'm buying all day on Bryce Young, bro. I'm buying the Panthers right now.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, the Panthers are three and three this season, and they're not looking like the team you can just steamroll anymore. No, you know, they've they are getting better, they're they are showing improvement, and this is what I mean. Look at the Panthers. You can see improvement with this team. Yeah, that's what you want to see out of the Jets, but you're not seeing that with the Jets. But the Panthers, they're showing better, better ability to run the ball. The passing game is starting to look better, and keep in mind they don't even have Jalen Coker yet.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Jalen Coker's due back any minute, maybe even this week. We thought we'd get them last week, but uh, you know, maybe this week. They're taking their time with them. Um, and again, you know, uh Kittle's Kittle's practice window opens too. I know we'll get the 49ers in the game.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we'll we'll get to that, but back to this uh Panthers and Cowboys game. The Panthers held their own and they walked away with the victory with a 30 to 27 victory over the Cowboys. Yeah, the Cowboys are just they really need for things to kind of turn around with their defense because they're just giving up too much. I mean, uh you get 27 points in a game, you got a pretty good shot to win it. Yeah, if your defense is giving up 30, I mean you're you're screwed, you know? Like, and and you can't really point to one thing on the defense. It's like everything on the defense is kind of bad. Yeah, yeah, I know they got a pick in this game, but it wasn't enough.
SPEAKER_00:It was it wasn't enough to seal it, and I know they're without CeeDee Lamb, but the Cowboys' offense is high powered enough to keep them rolling in his absence. Uh, so I I think honestly they just let it slip away on them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, when CeeDee comes back, it's probably gonna open the offense a little more because you're gonna have to put two defenders on him.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, because Pickens has proven to be a true number one now himself.
SPEAKER_01:Well, he was a number one when he was with Pittsburgh. It's just, you know, dealing with his diva is was too much, and that's why he lost his spot.
SPEAKER_00:I don't I don't see much of his diva now at all. And I didn't I really only saw it a little bit, only through rumblings when he was with the Steelers. But the Steelers always seem to pick up and develop some diva receivers. I mean, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, George Pickens. I mean, that's just in the last 10 years.
SPEAKER_01:And sometimes they walk away at the right time, too.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But moving right along into the Colts and Cardinals game.
SPEAKER_00:Talk about one of a handful of Dark Horse teams that nobody saw coming. The Colts are 5-1 and playing championship caliber football.
SPEAKER_01:Sir, I said the Colts would be good. I said they would be good.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, you did, and I said the Jaguars would be good two years ago. It just took them a while to catch up to my prediction.
SPEAKER_01:But I I gotta I gotta give it to the Cardinals. Remember, they didn't have Kyler Murray in this game, but Jacoby Brissett came in and he was running. That offense is better than Kyler Murray has in the past two weeks.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I like Jacoby Brissett. Like, I honestly think he's a solid QB2 in the making.
SPEAKER_01:Well, here's the thing. Like, he kept the offense running, and and mind you, they're missing players.
SPEAKER_00:He can see over his linemen, that help.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I guess, yeah, that does help. But he's they're missing their star running back.
SPEAKER_00:They're missing like they're missing their top two running backs.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:And they're now MHJ is out. So percussion protocol.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So now he's still getting the team down the field. Takes this Colt team to a point where the Colts have to fight him off to get the victory. And I mean, quiet quietly, Taylor's having a great season as a as a running back. Like they're not going to be able to do it.
SPEAKER_00:They're really under the radar. They're just playing clean football. Nobody's really talking about them just yet. They're just under. I can't believe they're five and one, and I don't hear anything about them. Well, you know why?
SPEAKER_01:Because Indiana Jones is running the offense.
SPEAKER_00:Indiana Jones.
SPEAKER_01:He is running the offense.
SPEAKER_00:God, I wish his name was Gary.
SPEAKER_01:No, listen, he's running the offense efficiently. And all it is, it's it's boring plays. He's hitting the underneath route when it needs to be hit. He's not looking for extra. He's not trying to go for the deep pass when it's not there. He's just taking what is there and running the offense. It's not there, throw it away.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So they're getting they're getting the kind of play that they wanted out of Richardson out of Daniel Jones.
SPEAKER_00:Now, what do you think happens with Richardson? You think they trade him?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, he's he's being traded this offseason.
SPEAKER_00:You think so?
SPEAKER_01:Yep. I bet you, I bet you he gets traded, and I bet you he winds up with like you know what? I I can almost tell you it'll be the Ravens.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I was literally about to say that because we got we're gonna come up this on this here in a minute, and I'm gonna make a note because I don't want to forget Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Well, while you make a note, I'm gonna dive into the next matchup that I was anticipating was gonna go a different way. But we had the Jacksonville Jaguars going and playing the Seattle Seahawks, where the Seahawks came actually to Jacksonville and played. But Jacksonville, again, West Coast team coming East Coast, usually not a great recipe, but they came out with the victory with a 20-12 win over the Jackson.
SPEAKER_00:Historically, West Coast teams don't perform well on the East Coast, but Seahawks came in, got it done against a very tough 4-2 Jaguars, and only limited them to 12 points. Uh the Jaguars, just like the Panthers, I think the Jaguars are a little farther along than the Panthers are in development.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I don't I so I wouldn't say that. I would just say that the the defense, which has been very strong for them through the first five weeks, which mind you, remember, this team has shown well against really good teams that just did not perform at a high level against the Seahawks team because they were they were being hit with moves that were low-key. If you didn't pay attention, you didn't really understand the moves that were being done. But really, you gotta give a nod of the cap to the way that the offense is being run by Seattle and Sam Darnold in the way he's do dealing this ball around, because he's hitting receivers, not just underneath stuff, not just crossers, he's hitting deep routes, and there was actually a deep route that his receiver, JSN, gave him the best play in this game, one of the deep passes in this game. As he's running up the field, instead of sticking his foot in and curling the route, he kind of already knew that the B had opened up and was wide. So he just kept running. He just blazed past him. And so what he did is he left all of this space from him all the way over to the other sideline for him to throw up the ball. So now mind you, Sam Darnold just hit him over the over the top and he just kind of over the shoulder caught the ball. But he opened the entire field for him to throw the ball. So if he wanted to throw it kind of over to the right and get kind of faded over and let the receiver run under it, he could have. He gave him basically a layup.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, it's kind of like the alley oop in basketball. Like, here, here it is, just get it.
SPEAKER_00:Just get it. Now, Chargers and Dolphins, the Dolphins, man, they have had a couple games where you think they're gonna win and they just lose it.
SPEAKER_01:I gotta hand it to him in this game, though. They were taking it to the Chargers, and I honestly was like, oh my goodness, the Dolphins are gonna come away with this win.
SPEAKER_00:It's been a couple weeks like that now, but they just keep slipping at the at the second half, man. And you know, Mike McDaniels, he might be on the hottest seat of hot seats of all coaches right now.
SPEAKER_01:He's he's gone, man. He's a they're probably gonna let him coach out this season, and he's moving on. Yeah, moving on. They're probably gonna start dealing assets here at the trade deadline.
SPEAKER_00:Do you think he uh you think he lands somewhere? Who? Mike But Daniel, you think he gets another head coach job, or you think I don't think he's gonna be another head coach anywhere.
SPEAKER_01:I just don't think that's gonna ever happen again. Who do you think takes his place, Rex Ryan?
SPEAKER_00:No, hell no, nobody wants Rex. There are murmurs of Rex being up for talks.
SPEAKER_01:Uh no, nobody's gonna take on Rex Ryan because they saw look, Rex Ryan has had multiple shots. He was with the Jets, he was with the Bills, and he has not been able to duplicate anything that looks like a functional organization since the Mark Sanchez days.
SPEAKER_00:Sanchez, who is dealing with his own legal troubles.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, dealing with his own downfalls. But point of the matter is, he has a tattoo of Mark Sanchez. Good lord. Chargers coming away with the victory with a 29-27 win over the Dolphins, edging out, gotta give Harbaugh's squad a big nod because they came back to win this game, and they could have just collapsed, but they didn't. They held strong, got the victory, and they're going back with a four-and-two record.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Winning their division right now. And they, you know, even down their running backs, Kimani Videl stepping in great for them. Oh, yeah. Um the Browns and the Steelers, all right. At some point classic rivalry game. At some point, we are going to see Shadur Sanders under center, I believe. Possibly. Dylan Gabriel did not have as good a showing as this as his other game with this one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but this this is I don't know, man. Again, it's a rivalry game. The Browns are now one in one and five, which nobody is shocked by that. More more shocking is the Steelers are four and one, uh, you know, with Aaron Rodgers running the offense, but he's not he's not, you know, blowing up stats or anything like he used to.
SPEAKER_00:You think the Browns fire their coach? Stefansky. Uh I see a handful of coaches that could be the only one I think is probably not going to get fired is Kellen Moore with the Saints.
SPEAKER_01:He's probably gonna keep his No, he's gonna be safe because they're trying to build something different.
SPEAKER_00:And he's he is a smart coach, too, by the way. And the Saints are playing relatively competitive, but well, speaking of that. Speaking of that, uh, they just took a whooping from the Patriots. Although not the whooping. 25-19 is not exactly. Who by the way, Mike Vrabel has these Patriots rolling now, looking really good. Four-and-two. Oh, and I know they're the next team up. I'm not gonna get too far tracked, but speaking of Mike Vrabel, uh, you know what? I'll wait till we get to the Titans because this is more about the Titans than about Mike Vrabel.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, but yeah, and here's something you gotta take note of with these Patriots. Drake May is starting to turn into a viable franchise quarterback because he is this year, he has thrown so many deep passes to receivers for touchdowns, and it's it's not like a hope and a prayer. No, he's hitting his receivers. His receivers aren't having to go run it down. Yeah, he's hitting his receivers. He's running the offense with some efficiency.
SPEAKER_00:They need more from their running backs. I think, and when we get to this again, I think Ramondre Stevenson could be a trade candidate as well. I don't I don't know that they're gonna trade him because they need the depth on the team, but if you're talking off season, I see it happening in the off-season, but they they got you know, they got Trayvon Henderson, who I think is a more effective runner than Ramondre, and then Antonio Gibson behind him. Nope, he's hurt. Oh, that's right, he is hurt. Okay. Well, I mean, he'll come back at some point, so maybe an off-season acquisition then, but I don't know. He's coming back this year. I think he tore an ACL or something. Oh, well, we'll see him in two years.
SPEAKER_01:I I don't I'm not as well versed on all the injuries, but that one I seem to remember he tore tore something in his knees, so he's out of the season.
SPEAKER_00:The Titans, I mean, sorry, the Raiders getting a 2010 win over the Titans, bringing them two and four, Titans down to one and five. The Titans have now gone from firing GM John Robinson and firing head coach Mike Vrabel to firing GM Rand Carthen to firing Brian Callahan. Which all at all at separate times, by the way.
SPEAKER_01:Which that's news. They've firing Callahan, that's that's big. Um now they're they're moved on from another head coach. But the the fact that they when they moved on from the GM that was there with with uh uh dang, why am I forgetting his name? You just said his name.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that would be uh John Robinson.
SPEAKER_01:Frabel.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, John Robinson was with Frabel.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Uh so the fact that they fired him is not surprising because he was the one that kind of engineered that AJ Brown trade where Frabel's like, why did you trade my best player?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like because they already knew they were gonna let Derek Henry walk, and now you're gonna let my best player go.
SPEAKER_00:It was like they were just gutting the team at that point.
SPEAKER_01:Um by the way, low-key signing, the guy that they drafted to be the replacement, Trey Burks, signed or is walking over to see Washington about possibly being a receiver for them. So it might be a low-key pickup that could be. Trey Lynn Burks. Yeah. We'll see.
SPEAKER_00:I haven't heard that name in a minute.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's gonna be over on your squad possibly because he did he walked over to Washington.
SPEAKER_00:We do need a receiver. I'll give him that, and good receiver play as well.
SPEAKER_01:But the Raiders, like, a lot of people came into this season thinking they were gonna be a little more than they are, you know, because the whole they brought Gino Smith over and Gino Smith and Pete Carroll, and Gino had such a great year in Seattle.
SPEAKER_00:Like he he did rather decently.
SPEAKER_01:He didn't, he wasn't, he wasn't there last year.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he was. No, he wasn't.
SPEAKER_01:He was not, sir. He took a year off. Yes. I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_00:Gino played quarterback for Seattle last year. Yeah, Gino did, but Pete Carroll was not. I'm not talking about keep Pete Carroll.
SPEAKER_01:You just said Pete Carroll, and then you said he had a good season last year.
SPEAKER_00:Pete Carroll Pete, I said Gino had a good season, but Pete Carroll was still associated with the team. He just wasn't a coach. He was a front office guy then.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he was a front office guy, which is code for we don't want you to be our coach anymore. Pretty much. We like you. They wanted his knowledge, but they didn't want to know what this sounds like. Can we just be friends? Like, I don't want to be your boyfriend or your girlfriend anymore, but I still want to just be friends, but I still want to hang around with you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I still want your apartment key though. And I I want to use it when you're not there. I want to actually anyway.
SPEAKER_01:So they they're they haven't really, I mean, Genty hasn't really turned on it until recently, um, which is weird, you know. I mean, I mean their offensive line definitely needs these high-pick rookies.
SPEAKER_00:You should see them starting to come out of the woodworks in the second half of the season. Uh, the first half of the season for high pick rookies is always feeling their way out. I'll tell that to Embuka. So some of them just come right out, but he had an unprecedented situation. Godwin was out and Mike uh Mike Evans was out. Which he might be coming back this next week. Maybe. And if he does, he'll still be limited. Maybe on a snap count. He'll be back.
SPEAKER_01:Speaking of that rolls right into our next topic, which is uh the Niners and Bucks.
SPEAKER_00:You're not wearing any 49ers stuff, sir. Is this because you guys lost? No, it's just not what I wore today. Are you being a sore loser?
SPEAKER_01:No, I've realized my team lost. We're still 4-2 and lead the division, but we lost to a team that we deserved to lose to because we didn't play well enough to win this game.
SPEAKER_00:It was through 4-2 and lead the division.
SPEAKER_01:Hey. Look, I'm being on the lead the division part. Look, I'm being unlike most fans where they go, the damn ref screwed us. Like, no, no. We legitimately, I say that we, as in as if I'm on the team, the team did not play well enough to win this game. They sure did. Period. I mean, they were playing played competitively, but look, you had you had Mac Jones throw a pick that really wasn't his fault because Bourne ran the wrong route. Don't many excuses for this guy. No, he really ran he ran the okay, he was supposed to run out and he ran in. So when Mac lets the pass go, when he's supposed to break and he breaks the wrong direction, the DB is just stand there like, thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, there's a ball in my hand now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's like he threw it right to him. There's a ball in my hands. As soon as he let it go and he saw Bourne break the wrong way, Mac goes, nah.
SPEAKER_00:Wish you could have that one back. Exactly. Imagine letting go of the ball just off your fingertips, and then you see him break the wrong way, and you're like, No. Yes. Wish I hadn't let that go. That's exactly what happened. Like watching a balloon fly away. Oops.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but there was there was two or three plays that I could point at where it was either breaking coverage or missed assignments that just cost us that game. It just we we didn't have a chance. And Baker was playing lights out. I mean, he he had the deep pass to the rookie, their rookie wide receiver for a touchdown. And funny enough, the the rookie receiver, he heard the people chanting MVP, and he thought they were talking about him catching the touchdown. And no, they're chanting MVP for Baker, not for him. He's like, yeah, yeah. He's like, I caught my first touchdown. They're chanting MVP for me. No, bro. That's for Baker.
SPEAKER_00:Speaking of MVPs, uh Joe Burrow, the Bengals are struggling. Now, Joe Joe Flacco, it's weird they hired another Joe. I just thought about that. Just average, they should change their name to Average Joes.
SPEAKER_01:No, look, Joe Flacco shouldn't even well, I meant Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow shouldn't even be mentioned because he's on the he's on the uh IR IL or but he is there. He is out for the year and and they desperately need him back. And every time they lose a game this year, it's just proving the point how much they need him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he is the center of that offense. I mean, uh uh Jamar Chase is not having the Pro Bowl season we thought he was gonna have.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because he's just running out there and he has nobody to throw it to him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, uh Chase Brown, you thought he was a hitter running back, and he's just mediocre at best. Yeah. Um, this whole Bengals team is completely distraught without Joe Burrow under center.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and not to mention the fact that they ran into a Packers team that they've been playing good ball. They've they have been a good team. Even even with dealing with injuries, they're still Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They the Packers have been a very well coached team. Um, and Jake Browning is upset that he got benched, but they were 0-3. He threw six touchdowns to eight interceptions. Yeah, he should be a good one. I think it would have helped. I think it was time for a change. I don't know if Joe Flacco was the change, but maybe that's all they could get. I think, well, their offense isn't really set up for them, but I thought they should have gone after Anthony Richardson.
SPEAKER_01:Their team is cheap. Yeah. So they're not gonna go get a Russell Wilson who costs too much. They're not gonna go and get That's Russ's fault. They're not gonna go get a Kirk Cousin who costs too much. They're not gonna go get Anthony Richardson, who's going to be a high draft pick to get him in mid-season, which that's why Richardson won't be traded till off-season because it won't cost as much.
SPEAKER_00:Probably close to the draft, to be honest.
SPEAKER_01:Mid-season, it's going to cost a lot to get somebody's asset at a quarterback level. So if you want somebody, you got to pay to get that somebody.
SPEAKER_00:I think at this point the writing is on the wall for them at two and four. They're just trying to get through the season. You're right. They're not looking to give up a lot because they're not trying to do much right now.
SPEAKER_01:No, if anything, the only piece I see them dealing out is Trey Hendrickson. That's the only one because it would make the most sense because they've got to be.
SPEAKER_00:And they they had trade talks with him before the season, too, all offseason as well.
SPEAKER_01:Here's why I say that. Because he's basically on a one-year privilege deal. You trade him away now, get what you can for him, at least you got something because you know he's leaving. You get something for him, he moves on, he's happy, you're happy because you get assets in return. It makes the most sense. Watch for him to be traded at the trade deadline. I agree with you.
SPEAKER_00:And here we go. You know, America's game of the week. Uh the Lions and the Chiefs. Honestly, I thought the Lions should have come away with this win. The Chiefs held him off. And even worse, Jared Goff had a uh, this was a crazy play. They passed the ball to Jared Goff for a touchdown, and it would have stood good, but you know they pulled that touchdown off the board. Because he didn't declare as anything. You gotta declare. And is the way he didn't do it, like you're supposed to step back off the line, signal, and then when they snap the ball, you can go, he just stepped and ran.
SPEAKER_01:You know what the signal is, right? The signal is you just wipe your hand across your chest.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And that should signals to the refs I'm declaring as eligible. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he did it like a man, he just motioned and then went out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, granted, how often has he done that in his career? By the fact you can't recall that.
SPEAKER_00:Obviously, I think they've done it one time and not like that. It was a different type of play. Uh, because golf has cut a caught a touchdown. I think he did it last week.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the the point the point of the matter is it's it's such a wild play that it doesn't come up much. But the more interesting fact in this game, aside from the fact that you know, Chiefs are finally at 500 and the fact they're getting Rasheed Rice back here this next game, uh, is the fact that in this entire game, not a single penalty was called against the Chiefs. How is that possible? How is it possible that you don't have a single false start, single holding, single pass interference? Not a single penalty.
SPEAKER_00:There was a statistic on this, especially at home, that the refs do lean in favor of the Chiefs.
SPEAKER_01:Well, here's here's the thing though. Why is it every time there's a primetime game, it's always in the Chiefs' house? Because they say why is it never why is it never the Chiefs go into somebody else's house for a primetime?
SPEAKER_00:Well, the last time the Lions were on primetime, we beat their ass in the playoffs, so that might be why.
SPEAKER_01:Again, if I had a homer button, I'd be pressing it right now because we ain't talking about that.
SPEAKER_00:I'm saying it's reasoning whether it's accurate or not.
SPEAKER_01:We're talking about the fact that it seems like when it comes to the Chiefs, they are refed differently than any other team. They are getting favorable calls, they are getting treated differently than any other team.
SPEAKER_00:I agree, I think they do, and Mahomes is the master of being a crybaby. Like, he's the new age Brady, you know, to be honest with you. I was gonna say the new age Eli Manning. Yeah, the new age Eli, but I think Brady was way more successful than Eli with getting calls. But I just meant the crying part.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. If I ever if I ever met Peyton Manning, my first question would be like, did Eli cry as much as a kid as he doesn't when he was an NFL quarterback? Because it seemed like he was always crying.
SPEAKER_00:He cries a lot. He'd probably be like, I'm surprised he ain't had surgery on his tear ducts by now. They produce so much fluid.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, the the point of the matter is Chiefs are probably gonna now take off on a little bit of run because their offense is playing better, because they're starting to get some players. They still don't have to. Well, they get Rasheed Rice back now. Exactly. They get Rasheed Rice back.
SPEAKER_00:So their offense is almost fully back intact. Oh, so I mean they they could open it up and go wide open throttle. I'm eager to see what they do next. We'll see who they're playing this week coming up. Um now we have the Bills and the Falcons, who by the way, the Bills have skidded the two losses themselves, and we thought that they were gonna be a powerhouse team. The Falcons are three and two on their heels.
SPEAKER_01:Remember earlier we looked at the Patriots being four-and-two, and now the Bills are four and two. Now, mind you, who won between the Patriots and Bills? The Patriots did. So the Patriots now lead the division. The Patriots are leading the division.
SPEAKER_00:How crazy is that? Who has the streaky hot and cold Falcons just took it to them 24-14? By the way, the Falcons were in control of this entire game.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, they were. And I think the best way to put the Falcons is they are the bipolar team of the NFL because you never know what kind of team you're getting. Because this is the team that got blown out by the Panthers 30 to nothing, and then they come back and beat a Buffalo Bills team, which most people were picking to be a Super Bowl contender, and beat them 24 to 14 and handedly.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and they got to control this game. And they got beat in their nice uniforms, they were wearing their rivals' uniforms too. The the ice, the Buffalo iced out. Everybody knows what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_01:And and the thing is, like, when it when it comes to the Falcons, I don't think that people are giving enough love to B. John Robinson. Like that guy is one hell of a player.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, if they don't have B John, I don't think. I mean, they've only had a little bit of success, but if they don't have B John, they definitely don't have the success they're having now. No. No, I I wouldn't have to be able to do that. He is saving Michael Penix's career for real. Um and Kirk Cousins is probably like having a what the fuck moment right now. Like, why am I here?
SPEAKER_01:But he's he's having a he's on the sideline watching Netflix on the tablet.
SPEAKER_00:Um somebody, if Kirk Cousins is willing to to restructure his contract, somebody is gonna want to trade for him.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, moving on to the other Monday night game, which for someone. We can skip to next week's manchester. We don't know. No, sir, no, sir. We do need to talk about this, but you don't want to talk about it because your team lost.
SPEAKER_00:I miss Chris Cooley.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he ain't coming back. I'm gonna make a t-shirt of that. Anyway, so by by now you you've realized what happened here between the Bears and the Commanders. The Bears pull off the victory 25-24, which, if that sounds familiar, the Bears did win 25-24 last week. So they should have lost. First time in a long time that that's happened where the team won by the same score.
SPEAKER_00:Look, the commanders were down early, they came back, got ahead, they remained in control through the fourth quarter. You fumbled the handoff.
SPEAKER_01:They fumbled the handoff. Your boy couldn't handle the snap. Jaden Daniels couldn't handle a snap, goes to hand it off to your running back, and it wasn't even really a handoff, it was more like he just pushed the ball over to him. So the running back's expecting it being, you know, planted into his chest, and it goes bouncing off his chest.
SPEAKER_00:All I know is it's unacceptable, and it was in the last less than five minutes less in the game. It was closer to four minutes. Sir. And the Bears just slowly walk down the field, they get the field goal, there's no time left.
SPEAKER_01:Wait a second, wait a second. I remember texting you and saying, don't worry. You have Jake Mooney, my friend from the Niners, who normally misses things like this.
SPEAKER_00:And I think you j I think you jinxed it with that. I did not, I did not jinx it. Oh, he normally misses, and then he makes the kick. Oh, thanks, asshole. Don't blame me.
SPEAKER_01:Blame your quarterback for fumbling and giving away. No, no. It just, you know, it doesn't work for me either because this kicker who is supposed to be the guy that's going to be our kicker for years comes to us and can't kick for shit. No. Losing us games. But he won a game for the Bears. Yeah, he won a game for the Bears.
SPEAKER_00:In the rain, in the rain, mind you.
SPEAKER_01:Next week he'll miss two kicks and then he'll cut him. I hope he misses the rest of his kicks in his career. Anyway, unless he becomes a commander.
SPEAKER_00:He won't.
SPEAKER_01:But we have zero interest in him. So unfortunately, the commanders drop to a three and three record, but they'll bounce back. They're too good of a team not to.
SPEAKER_00:They'll they'll bounce back. They're only three and three. The Bears are three and two. You know, we're still ahead of them by a game. Not that they're in our division, but I think this is the start of a deep, deeply cutting rivalry. Uh, especially since Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams were drafted in the same year.
SPEAKER_01:Let's bounce into next week. And I want to I want to highlight this Thursday night game because there's a couple of fun nicknames for this game coming up since you have two 40-year-old quarterbacks between the Steelers and the Bengals. I've heard it called the AARP bowl or the Icy Hot Bowl. It's Joe Flacco's tryout for the Steelers Bowl. Or the early bird special bowl.
SPEAKER_00:It's the it's Joe Flacco's tryout for his last stop in the AFC North. Or the or the fixed bowl. I don't have very high hopes for it, especially with it being on a Thursday night. Look, come on, you gotta admit these are some good names for this game. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and call this one, and I I think the Steelers are probably gonna win. I really want to pull, I really want to pull for the Bengals, but I I think the Steelers are gonna lock this one up. Before we get to these other matchups, let's take a brief, let's take a brief intermission here. I got a question for you, Mike. What? If you could start an NFL team, we did this with the NBA. If you could start, if you could take any current NFL player and start an NFL team, who would it be?
SPEAKER_01:Sir, you know what this is really. It's really what quarterback would you start your team with? Because that's what everybody's gonna do.
SPEAKER_00:You're choosing a quarterback.
unknown:Interesting appoint.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, nobody's gonna pick a punter.
SPEAKER_00:Did you know that the last four quarterbacks chosen number one overall, their head coaches were fired in the first season?
SPEAKER_01:That's because they're usually going to an organization that is already failing because you're drafting in the top ten for a reason.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Unless you're a team that I mean, let's face it, into the top ten.
SPEAKER_00:Well, they skipped 2022, but let's face it, 2021, Trevor Lawrence, Urban Meyer, gone. 23, Bryce Young, Frank Reich, gone. 2024, Caleb Williams, Iberflus, gone. Iberfloating away, my favorite saying. 2025, Cam Ward, Brian Callahan, out. All number one overall picks in those same years.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So you're starting with a quarterback, you're already setting yourself up for failure.
SPEAKER_01:But you know, this is your decision, this is your team. You know, this has to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard you make because of the fact that you don't have a team if you don't have a good quarterback.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, you can have a good team with a relatively serviceable quarterback, but you should draft the quarterback in the middle of that process or towards the end of that process.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but you're saying I'm starting a team and you've got to have something to jump off. You're not saying that I have a team and I'm I'm basically starting with you know I have to start with something. I'm not gonna just say, hey, let me just go.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, if you got a good quarterback and nobody to throw to, your receivers can't get open, you're still not gonna have good quarterback play.
SPEAKER_01:Not necessarily if the quarterback puts it only where their receiver can get it.
SPEAKER_00:Again, if they're always covered.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, in the NFL, they're always covered. So NFL open is not the same as college open where you see a guy sprinting away ten yards from somebody. Well, you gotta pick something. Why? What would you pick? Would you would you pick a running back? Tight end. You know me.
SPEAKER_00:You know me so well. I would pick a running back. Uh-huh. And I'm going with Cam Scadabow. Because even if we can't pass, we're going to run the shit out of it.
SPEAKER_01:But you gotta have a good O-line, so having Scatabow wouldn't matter.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I believe Scatabow could run. I I believe that man, he could run without an O-line. I'm gonna call him I wanna call him the juggernaut.
SPEAKER_01:I can tell you that his running style does not last in the NFL. No. They usually are short careers and they usually are ended quickly by injury. You're right, but I'm still I'm still I would much rather pick the quarterback because maybe I have a better chance of him sticking around, and if he's good. And which if I get to pick my player based on the players that are available, I'm probably gonna wind up with somebody that I already know is good. It's not like the draft process where sometimes it's just a crapshoot, and you just pick somebody and say, Well, I hope he develops. Throw a dart board, throw darts at a board. Anyway, you know, it's like the days of going, Oh yeah, we're just gonna draft Brett Favre number one. You know, we're just gonna we're gonna draft that guy, uh John Elway, number one. John Elway, you know, you know. Steve Young. No, Steve Young wasn't a number one pick, but no, but he became a but you're getting you're getting my point of if you already know who you're getting, you know, if I if you say, okay, you can pick Patrick Mahomes or you can pick, you know, uh Lamar Jackson or Jared Allen or Joe Burrow. Like if I pick a quarterback that's already established, it's a lot different than picking out of the draft.
SPEAKER_00:That's true. We'll pick the player and then we'll go have the draft. We should do this. Oh good lord. Anyway. Nobody's gonna want to see that.
SPEAKER_01:But if I if I did pick a player, it'd probably be either Josh Allen or Justin Herbert.
SPEAKER_00:Herbert? Yep. The guy whose name is Sherbert when I don't like him? Sherbert Ice Cream.
SPEAKER_01:I would pick one of those quarterbacks.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway. You asked me my opinion. You don't have to like it. I mean, I don't think it's a bad pick. I think Josh Allen's a good pick. Andrew Her, I mean, Andrew Herbert. Uh good lord. Justin Herbert could be a good pick, but you know, he's kind of under the radar right now. But he might he has the opportunity. He's showing out. But anyway, week seven predictions. Let's roll on through here. We already talked about the Steelers, the Bengals. Uh we have another game in London here, 9 30 a.m. Rams and the Jaguars. Come on, Jaguars. Jaguars. Look, the Jaguars are a European team almost. Okay. I'm taking the Jaguars. This is their second home away from home.
SPEAKER_01:This is the first early Sunday game that I actually want to watch.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I actually probably will wake up for this one myself. Uh, I think that's gonna be a good matchup. What about this Eagles Vikings game?
SPEAKER_01:Um, you know, that's gonna at the Vikings.
SPEAKER_00:Eagles at the Vikings. I think it depends on what version of Chris Carson Wentz we get.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, Carson Wentz has been serviceable. He's been moving the offense.
SPEAKER_00:He's been he's been moving the offense, he's been doing okay. Uh, but they did drop one uh a couple weeks ago in London against um they didn't well they dropped against the Steelers. They just came off the bye.
SPEAKER_01:They lost to the Steelers. Their London game was against the Browns, and they beat the Browns.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe barely. I gotta check it. Uh what other good matches we got coming here? I know that the uh uh aside from the Panthers maybe getting Jalen Coker back, you guys could get George Kittle back any day now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he might come back this week. Uh, but I do like this old school rivalry matchup between the Falcons and 49ers on Sunday night. Uh not just because of it being my team, but because with the way the Falcons have been playing, they've been looking like a up and down team, but they've been looking pretty good. And the Niners, yeah, they've been kind of beat up and injuries plagued, especially with recently having Fred Warner go down with a dislocated and fractured ankle.
SPEAKER_00:I think they take advantage of that. I I would really rather favor you guys, but I think the Falcons are going to take advantage of your of your beat up roster. Probably.
SPEAKER_01:I hate to say it, but you know, it all it all depends on what happens with the way our offense moves. If our offense doesn't move very efficient efficiently and we don't stay within the game, it's not much we can do. Uh, what about this matchup here with the Colts and Chargers?
SPEAKER_00:I was looking at that as well. The Chargers four and two, the Colts five and one. Um, I got the honestly, it's hard not to pick the Colts right now because they're just they're playing like a powerhouse team, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I I partially want to say that I agree with you with that because of the fact that the Chargers are still they're beat up on their offensive line, they're beat up in the running backs. Uh, they don't know if they're gonna have uh Johnston back, their wide receiver. Uh was it Quentin Johnson?
SPEAKER_00:Quentin Johnson, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Don't know if they're gonna have him back yet or not. They should have him back. I I don't know. I I was reading something today that sounded unfavorable for them.
SPEAKER_00:And then Mike Frabel going back to Tennessee with the Patriots. I think he's gonna walk in there and light them up. I mean the Titans are one and five. It's kind of not hard to do right now.
SPEAKER_01:It'd be crazy to watch him walk in there and have a big old big old blowout game.
SPEAKER_00:I would like to see what we got rolling here. Um, I'd like to see if the Saints can upset the Bears because they've been playing hard football seven. You just want to see that for some get back for your team.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, that's a little that might be a little bit of it. Speaking of your team, though, your team is playing it the old school rivalry.
SPEAKER_00:We're gonna learn a lot. We're in Dallas, too. We're gonna learn a lot about this team, these two teams here at four o'clock.
SPEAKER_01:All I can say is your quarterback better light it up because their secondary sucks. So he better be throwing.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I think this is gonna be a shootout because neither side has very good secondary right now. Uh I mean, with us, once teams have realized they could throw on us, they just start balling out. Uh the Lions and the Buccaneers, who are you taking in that?
SPEAKER_01:I gotta I gotta roll with the the uh Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Because I just don't I don't look, it's not to say that Lions aren't good, but I just don't see them Buka's out. Yeah, but they might have Mike Evans back on a snap count. So what? He'll be limited. Did you not see Baker throw into his rookie like he was in Buka?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, you know, there's that, and they should be getting um and then they still have Kate Otten that they can still throw into the mix. Kate Otten is effective when they're down receiving hands, and then uh Bucky might be a low-key fantasy pickup there. Yeah, Bucky should be back in the mix for their running back. I do like the Buccaneers for this, but I think if they're not careful, I think the Lions get it away. The Lions have a high-powered offense too.
SPEAKER_01:Well, if the Lions, you know, keep from getting in a shootout by by basically doing grounded pound and you play keep away with them and do efficient clock management, they can definitely stretch it out and force Baker to have to throw when he doesn't want to throw.
SPEAKER_00:I think they could too. Um, and they you know, they have good receiving backs as well as good receivers. I think the Lions offense is a little more versatile than the Bucks offense. The Bucks are getting there, uh, and the Bucs are very explosive, but I I just think the Lions might pull this one out. And let's not forget there's also a 10 o'clock game for 10 p.m.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, 10 p.m. Eastern.
SPEAKER_00:Game nobody will probably stay up for.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the Texans and Seahawks. I mean, honestly.
SPEAKER_00:I'm picking the Seahawks.
SPEAKER_01:It's yeah, I was gonna say it's probably Seahawks because I just don't I don't trust the Texans.
SPEAKER_00:I've heard even trust them. I've heard even less about the Texans than the Colts, and I haven't heard anything about the Colts other than their name. I haven't even heard the Texans name this season. I haven't even heard anybody even talk about them. We have. I mean, we have, but I'm talking about the sources we check and the things we listen to on a daily basis. I just just one team, good or bad, nobody's even talking about is the Texans. So, but I you know, I digress. Uh, and real quick before we get into that, uh Yay or nay, Mike. Week six, hard truce. Yay or nay, you tell me Jackson, Dart, and Cam Scatabow make New York make New York Giants a playoff contending team.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like I need more from the team before I make a decision on that because they have looked okay under Sc under Dart with Scatabo, but it just I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:It just it doesn't seem like it's Rico Dowdle deserves to be RB1 over Chuba.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they've already said they're gonna split carry, which basically is coach speak for we're gonna see who does better, and then they're gonna take the job. So he's probably going to win out the carries if Chupa can't stay healthy, and then they might wind up again, another player that might wind up on the trade.
SPEAKER_00:Tyrod Taylor should be QB1 over Justin Fields.
SPEAKER_01:Tyrod is a quarterback where he's better from a backup role where he can come in, play you a couple games, and then teams figure him out, and he doesn't perform as well. So I think Justin Fields is all you got. You gotta ride with him.
SPEAKER_00:Do you think do you think the Chargers trade for a running back? Yes. Baker Mayfield deserves MPV MVP hype. Hype. Not the actual ward.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Baker Mayfield does deserve to be in the conversation with the way he is playing. He's been playing great ball, and I really honestly think that he'll be there. And back to I just want to circle back to your your running back question. Uh Omarion Hampton is going to be coming back this season. So I don't know if they're going to go for like a big splash. They might just pull somebody off of somebody's practice squad or pick up somebody uh through a small trade, you know, somebody that won't be a huge hit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And for my final one, Drake May will finish top five in MVP voting. No. No. I can't say I disagree, but he's certainly making a case for it. Uh, thank you everybody again for listening to us and joining us for another episode of Sports Banter. Uh once again, thank you, Body by G Jim, Solace Outfitters, and the Giving Tree Chiropractic Service. Uh, everybody, I'm Brian with an eye. And I'm Mike, and we are two for the win. Thanks, everybody.