Two for the Win
Mike is a U.S. Navy Veteran and Bryan has more than a decade of civil service experience. Together, these blue collar guys dissect the latest sports headlines and events.
Two for the Win
Two For The Win - S2.48 - Teams On The Brink, Funny Guys & Happy Halloween!
A rookie just shoved the World Series wide open, a Cy Young-caliber ace cleaned the dugout after a complete game, and two historic franchises found themselves on the wrong end of momentum. We dig into how the Blue Jays grabbed a 3–2 edge over the Dodgers, why Yamamoto’s mastery (and humility) mattered, and how a 22-year-old named Trey Yesavage carved up one of baseball’s scariest lineups. Around the league, the managerial carousel spun fast, Aroldis Chapman torched the Yankees’ front office, and Bryce Harper’s “elite” tag sparked trade talk at the worst time.
Zooming out, the WNBA sits at a CBA crossroads: rising attendance and sponsor interest, stubborn salary ceilings, and a real risk that a lockout could stall hard-won momentum. We lay out a practical path—smarter incentives, stronger NBA media alignment, and aggressive star marketing—to grow revenues and paychecks together. In the NBA, we celebrate Lauri Markkanen’s 51, debate load management with Michael Jordan’s blunt take, and marvel again at Victor Wembanyama’s two-way stretch of the court. A widening gambling probe adds stakes to availability and integrity; when trust wobbles, every result hits different.
College football brought big moves and bigger bills: LSU’s buyout shock, rankings volatility, and a slate that invites upsets. The NFL gave us a moment of perspective with the passing of Nick Mangold and a reminder that organ donation saves lives. On the field, we sort through real adjustments—Buffalo’s ground gear with James Cook, the Chiefs’ passing rhythm as Rashee Rice returns, and midseason trades and extensions that reveal what contenders value most. We wrap with MVP cases that don’t just default to quarterback shine and a candid look at how quickly reputations can flip.
Hit play for clear analysis, a few laughs, and firm takes from October baseball to midseason football. If you’re new here, follow the show, share it with a friend who loves sports, and drop your bold World Series prediction in a review—we’ll read our favorites on the next episode.
October 30th, 2025. Happy Halloween Eve, everybody. And to those of you going out tomorrow night, we wish you a safe and spooky evening. I'm Brian with an eye. And I'm Mike. And we are two for the win. Mike, what are we talking about tonight, bro?
SPEAKER_00:Well, we got a little world series action that we need to discuss. Uh got a little NBA action to discuss because they've been hitting the ground running with the NBA season. And as always, got some football. Foosball.
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SPEAKER_00:Well, uh, before we get into the World Series, we've got to talk a little uh baseball discussion with some of the things going on around baseball. Baseball news. Yeah, we have the World Series, but there's still some things happening. So uh recently the Orioles announced they have hired their new manager. This is a bit of a theme. We've got a lot of teams hiring new managers.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, a lot of out with the old and in with the new going on in the MLB.
SPEAKER_00:Craig Albanez will be the new Orioles skipper there, but they're not the only ones making a little bit of a shakeup at the managerial position. The Nationals, who have kind of been on rough times ever since they won the uh World Series back in 2019, uh, they recently hired a new manager, and it's kind of a crucial hire because this guy he will be the youngest skipper in baseball at 33 years old. And it's Blake, and you might want to do the name here.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, here we go. Can Brian pronounce the name? Where are we at here? It's Blake Buterra. Bouterra. I'm gonna say Butera.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna go with Butera.
SPEAKER_01:It might be a little bit slick with Butera, but I think it's Butterra.
SPEAKER_00:Butra sounds cooler, but I'm gonna go. Sounds like on the French side, Boutera. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Butera. Anyway, he will be the youngest skipper if they do hire him, and he will be the youngest skipper since the Minnesota Twins hired uh Frank. Uh, you give it a tempt. Go with that one.
SPEAKER_01:Since the Minnesota trend hired Frank Quiliche. Hey, it's Quiliche. Almost like Mario. Alright. It's a meeting a Quiliche.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, so if they wind up hiring him, uh that will be a pretty awesome thing for a young man. Uh so these next two things we're gonna discuss have nothing to do with the World Series, but have everything to do with the business side of baseball. Yes. So recently, a uhlist Chapman, who's pretty big name in the world of uh relieving pitchers in baseball, you know, he's he's been a substantial player during his time and has played for a number of teams, including the New York Yankees. And recently he was asked if he was to be sent or traded to the Yankees if he would want to play for them again. He said he would he said he would rather retire than to go play for them again.
SPEAKER_01:You know, this is kind of funny. We got a lot of funny guys on our agenda tonight, and this is the first one.
SPEAKER_00:Well, he says, no way, not even dead. He said he said, if I was told told I was being sent to the New York Yankees in a trade, I'd rather pack my things and go home. I would retire. He would retire. Now, this is interesting because of the fact that what he is saying is he did not enjoy his time as a New York Yankee. And what he said, it wasn't the teammates, it wasn't the the coaching staff, it was the front office. And if you remember, back when Soto signed with the Mets, Soto said the exact same thing. He said that he didn't sign with the Yankees, not because of the players, not because of the manager or the coaches, but because of the front office. So this is two premier players in in Major League Baseball saying no to doing business with the Yankees. That doesn't look good, especially being a historic franchise. So but not to not to stray away from the awkwardness of business in baseball. Yeah, speaking of which, we all know, at least those who have listened to our program more than once and heard me talk about my disdain for Bryce Harper. Well, apparently I'm not the only one that feels that way. And what makes this worse is it's not it's not so much the fact that it's it's me or a writer or anybody else, but this this is his general manager. This is the guy who sets up and makes the rosters. That's right. So Dombrowski, who's their GM, he came out and said that he s he said some bad things about Harper, and then it alluded to the fact that he wants a elite player to play elite, saying that Harper didn't play elite. So this has led to some trade talks because Harper he only batted 261 with 27 home runs and 75 RBIs last season, this past season. And, you know, for somebody who's being paid elite money, Dombrowski says, ain't good enough. You need to do more, you need to be better. And this and this is coming off of Schwarber having basically MVP type year, and he's not the one being paid the way Harper's being paid, because Harper was the one that signed that huge deal that was like 13 years, you know, 300 and some mil, whatever it was, you know, huge deal. And he's in the eighth year of it, and he said the whole reason he didn't sign back with the Nationals is because of all the trade talks and possibility that he could get shipped somewhere where he didn't want to go.
SPEAKER_01:And so And here we are in a full circle moment.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and and here we are with the same thing happening, and Harper's kind of like, What the hell? I why am I being treated this way? Well, when you're being paid elite and you're not playing elite, which don't don't get it wrong, 27 home runs and 75 RBIs is okay, yeah, but when you have an an elite talent, you want elite performance. That's right. That's a that's a good talent, not elite talent. And you need these elite talents to perform big in the postseason. Well, that's not been the case. Yeah. Twice now. They made it to the playoffs and got bounced out.
SPEAKER_02:Ooh.
SPEAKER_00:Didn't make it to the championship round or didn't make it to the world series. They both got they both times they got bounced out, and Harper underperformed him both times.
SPEAKER_01:So says his manager, I like him, but I hate him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, pretty much. His general manager is saying that. But this is this is coming off of, and we'll we'll get to uh what's happening in the World Series, but the Blue Jays signed their first baseman, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., to a big elite contract, and he's been getting they've been getting every bit of that out of him in this playoffs. Well, as they should. I mean, he's been killing it. Yeah, he's been one of the best players in the playoffs. Yeah, certainly deserves it. So the fact that you're not performing, and he's watching other people around the league who have signed huge elite contracts performing. Sorry, Harper, this is the business side of baseball. Did you not know this? Have you not seen this before? Have you not seen how most of these organizations do business? They send you out if you do not perform. That's right. And when you're costing them big money to keep them from getting other players and they want to get back a bunch of their free agents this offseason, shipping you out might be the key to them getting them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and not only that, you could be going to a team that may be looking more to utilize your skills, which means a team that's probably subpar.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So he could wind up going to the athletics and being in Vegas again where he's from.
SPEAKER_01:I think he should go to the Rockies. A nowhere lower to go than the highest team in the MLB.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I would say I would say that would be a good fit for him because his power numbers will go up.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because historically, Rocky Stadium is a home run dream. Yeah. So if he goes there at mile high, hey, he might he might turn into the elite player again. But again, he won't have other players showing him down like Schwarber is and Turner and some of the other stars on the Phillies that are making him look bad.
SPEAKER_01:Shit, I say some to the Rockies, East Coast kid, my ass. Let's go west.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, he's not East Coast kid, he's from Vegas. All right, well, there goes that argument. Anyway, you know, there's a reason you get voted most overrated player by your peers. This is true. Anyway, we'll see where he went.
SPEAKER_01:You think maybe his talking, his blabber mouth has something to do with that?
SPEAKER_00:So he's historically been a hothead in baseball.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, his I remember early on in his career him getting into an argument and getting tossed and him going into the dugout, smashing a bat on the wall, and it breaks, ricochets, and busts his nose. And it's like, well, you really showed them, didn't you?
SPEAKER_01:You really did.
SPEAKER_00:But it is what it is. I mean, it maybe he'll figure this out and realize that, like, hey man, if you're gonna be the tall nail, you're gonna get hammered. Don't be the tall nail. Don't be the tall nail. Except the okay contract.
SPEAKER_01:Don't be the toenail either. Anyway, uh, let's roll into this. Let's talk about what's going on in the World Series. What an exciting time to be a baseball fan, Mike. Let me tell you what.
SPEAKER_00:Well, to kick this off, I want to make a note of if people didn't think that every game matters, understand that the Blue Jays got home field advantage in the World Series because of a game earlier in the year where it was a second game of a doubleheader, and they just happened to pull out the win, giving them the edge on the Dodgers over the season for wins, which is what gave them home field advantage. So the series started last Friday. We're deal with this for just a moment. We're gonna kind of go through some of these games because it's kind of crucial. It tells the story. So in the first game, Blake Snell took a big old loss for the Dodgers because they won that, the Blue Jays won that game 11-4. Big ol' L. Which shocked a lot of Dodgers fans because they they looked at this at oh, we're gonna sweep these guys. Who are they? They don't know anything. And the starting pitcher in that game was a 22-year-old rookie. A 22-year-old rookie uh named Trey Yesavage. He's a Yesavage. Yeah, well, he had one heck of a game. Well, we'll get to it, because he pitched last night's game, but he only pitched four innings in that first game, gave up four hits, two runs, and struck out five, walked three. So kind of yeoman's work, you know, not not exactly, you know, like lighting it up, but decent, you know, kind of got him in there. DeSante. But it really was a nine a nine-run seventh inning that got them the win in that game. So moving moving along, we'll go to Saturday's game where the Dodgers evened up the series going 5-1, with Gosman taking the loss for the Blue Jays and Yamamoto. Yamamoto pitched a great game. A great game. Not only did he pitch a great game, going a complete nine, which you don't see anymore in baseball, only allowing four hits, only one run, eight strikeouts, no walks, which is impressive as hell. But this man, after the game, as soon as his team is done, he cleans up the dugout. The entire dugout, because it was a mess, and he didn't want to leave it that way. So I gotta give a little nod because most players, when they're major leaguers, they kind of get full of themselves a little bit. And this guy shows how grounded he is. I'm gonna clean this up. You know, just incredible. Incredible that somebody that's that that high up is just like, eh, let me be grounded and clean up after myself and my teammates. Yeah. So I I gotta I gotta give a little nod of the cap to that guy. That's kind of cool, you know. So then on Monday, October 27th, played the first game in Dodgers Stadium. Dodgers took that game six to five, so it was a little nail biter there to give them the 2-1 lead. That one went all the way 18 innings, didn't it? Yes, it did. Yes, it did. I was gonna I was gonna say, the reason that game is so significant is technically two games.
SPEAKER_01:It was like playing two games, pretty much.
SPEAKER_00:And what gave us the win in that? What gave us the win in that in the 18th inning was Freddie Freeman hitting hitting a walk-off home run, which if you guys don't remember, he did the same thing hitting a walk-off home run last year.
SPEAKER_01:So by the way, what a player Freeman has been on the squad. So I mean, in his career. I mean, he's just in his career, but here with the Blue Jays right now in the World Series. You mean the Dodgers or the Dodgers, so I'm looking at the wrong side here.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you're looking at the Blue Jays. Yeah, my bad. My bad. But no, no, Freddie Freeman with the Dodgers. Uh really, I mean, he had seven at bats, two hits, two RBIs, and walked twice. So technically he'd been he had been up to the plate like nine times.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. He was probably was he their most productive batter?
SPEAKER_00:Well, you could say most productive, but Shohei Otani had two home runs in that game, and the Blue Jays said enough with it, and they just walked him every time he came up. So yes, he had five walks after that point because they were like, Nope, we're done with this.
SPEAKER_01:Just send this guy on. Yeah, just put him on base. We're we're we're done with this. We know he's gonna get there anyway. At least give him number one.
SPEAKER_00:So if we don't give it to him, he might take all of them. So it was kind of cool in this game. You had Scherzer, who's a perennial figure in baseball. He's won a couple World Series with different organizations, and has been an all-star pitcher. Uh, he didn't do so hot. He pitched four and one-third innings, giving up five hits, three runs, and one walk, three strikeouts. Three of those runs came on home runs, the two home runs that he gave to Shohei. And what was really cool is later on in a relief parents coming in with the bases loaded, you had Kershaw come in to kind of get the save. Now, Kershaw, he's he he's already said it's done, he's over, he's retiring. Yeah, he's like one of the most decorated pitchers in Dodgers history. Uh Sandy Koufax is a huge fan of his and has actually been at every Dodgers game watching him, which is significant, considering you know Sandy Koufax is goes down as like one of the best pitchers to ever pitch for the the organization, and he's saying Kershaw is like one of his favorites. So for him to come in, get that crucial out to keep the game going. I mean, it was just a tooth and nail like fight leading into 18 innings before they finally got a win. I mean, it was just one incredible game. It ended at like three in the morning, East Coast. Yeah, you know, like so it was a crazy, crazy game. Like, good lord, people are so tired.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:The next day, Tuesday was such a rough day for people. But speaking of Tuesday, Blue Jays, Blue Jays came back and won, tying up the series. Dang. 6'2. Now, what's significant is their pitcher Bieber got the win, giving him 2-0 for the playoffs. But Shohei, Shohei was the one that gave up a bunch of the runs and took the loss here. Shohei, who also didn't really show up plate-wise, he had no hits, had two strikeouts, and only three at bats. Yeah, only three at bats. But Shohei pitched six innings, gave up six hits, gave up four runs, four earned runs at that, six strikeouts, and one home run. Bieber went five and a third a third inning, gave up four hits, one run earned, three walks, three Ks.
SPEAKER_01:So slightly outplayed by Bieber.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, slightly. Slightly. But really, the story, the story of the game is just how next man up for for the Blue Jays, because they were without their center fielder in this game, uh, due to injury, so they wound up start starting Verishaw and center instead of the the normal Springer. Springer did not play in this game. So they they still came up next man up mentality and won this game.
SPEAKER_01:Not bad. It seems to be a pretty competitive World Series so far to this point.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's been very back and forth. Now, this is last night's game we're getting ready to talk about here, right? Last night's game on the 29th, Wednesday, the story of the game is it was a rematch of the starters from game one with Snell, Snell and your Savage. Yeah, and what's historical about this is your Savage, he went seven innings, three hits, one earned run, twelve strikeouts, and only one that one run was a home run he gave up. Now I mean Savage is actually in his name, so well what's what's significant about this is he's only 22 years old, and this guy literally this year was in single A ball. He was in the minors, yeah, and now he's in the World Series, and he's pitching against one of the best hitting lineups in baseball and keeps him to three hits in seven innings. That is insane. That's pretty good. That is insane. Not bad for a guy actually for a rookie pitcher, he sets a record in doing this, man. Like it it's just insane.
SPEAKER_01:Not bad for a guy whose name is actually Savage. So yeah, they're doing some pretty savage things out there.
SPEAKER_00:The other rookie to do this was actually a Dodger back in uh night, I think it was 1949 when they when they were still in Brooklyn. So this was the Brooklyn Dodgers. Dang. They had a rookie, uh Nucombe or Newcombe who was he gave up or he had nah sorry 11 strikeouts. He had 11 strikeouts. Obviously, Savage with 12, he gets over him. But again, the thing to take away from this game is the fact that again, Otani not showing up, he had no hits in this game. I mean, really, nobody out of their big three, Otani, Betts, Freeman, no hits. None of them. So you can't have your big bats not hitting and expect to win. Well you go over to the other side, you're getting hits from Guerrero, Bachet, uh you're getting hits out of Barishau, Clement, Barger. Like you're getting hits out of everybody on the lineup of the Blue Jays. And they just came away at the win. It just really, this whole game, they had it from jump.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, final six to one just seem like the Blue Jays. I mean, this is a really competitive World Series here. It's not like one team or the other is really really running it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they're just going back and forth, and this series is going back over to uh and the Blue Jays lead three to two.
SPEAKER_01:If they win the next one, they win the series.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. And it will be in their house because they're going back to Toronto Friday. Now so Friday, we're either gonna get a 3-3 and then we're gonna wind up seeing if the Dodgers can come back, win two games in a row, and take this. Yeah, or it's Blue Jays World Series from here, man. It'll be the first one since '93.
SPEAKER_01:We almost to sudden death now. The Dodgers get one under the belt, they go sudden death. Who do you think's the most likely to finish this thing out, Mike?
SPEAKER_00:All well, given given how the the way it's set up right now, they're there's such it's such in the Toronto Blue Jays favor because the momentum's kind of in their favor.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And sometimes that momentum is all you need. But the fact that that the Dodgers have Yamamoto going up again and the dominance that he has shown in this playoffs, I wouldn't count the Dodgers out either. So if it unless you're just getting, you know, nothing out of the bats of the Dodgers.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I I just I and I could see this going seven. And the Blue Jays were relatively formidable all season. Oh, yeah. As were the Dodgers as the defending champs. It would be crazy. When do we know offhand when the last MLB team to win back-to-back World Series was?
SPEAKER_00:Uh for back-to-back, you have to go all the way back back from the night from 1998 to 2000, where the Yankees did it three times. They won three years in a row. If you want to go national league side, you'd have to go back to the big red machine. The Reds did it back in the 70s. So it's been some time. You really don't have back-to-back winners as often as you would think. I mean, you have teams that wind up back in the World Series the next year, but they don't always win.
SPEAKER_01:I'd like to see, I wish I had done this research. I'd like to see the percentages, you know, just the uh likelihood of the Dodgers, you know, winning.
SPEAKER_00:I know it's all well hit and miss, it's all numbers and predictions, but the the fascinating stat is the fact that it the team that sweeps the series going into the World Series on average does not win the World Series. It's more in the favor of the team that just came off of a set, you know, like a longer series, like a seven-game series, the previous series before getting to the World Series. Okay. It's it's a crazy stat. I mean, it's something like I think one team has done it. Beyond that, it's been the team that had the longer fight to get to the World Series. And it might just be as simple as the batters not having you know that everyday rep or that ability to see live game, and then when they get to the game, they have to adjust.
SPEAKER_01:Well, both the Dodgers, both the Dodgers and the Blue Jays had first round buys this year.
SPEAKER_00:Right. But I'm talking about the championship series for the AL and NL. Yeah. Whoever winds up sweeping that is usually the one that doesn't win.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:By the way the numbers work out.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the Dodgers swept what, the Brewers?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. They swept the Brewers.
SPEAKER_01:But the Blue Jays had a more even spread.
SPEAKER_00:The Blue Jays they had a tough series with with the Mariners where it went seven, and it is historically shown that the team that winds up going to sweep the championship series and go to the World Series, they don't win. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:So the so so right now the odds are in the Blue Jays' favor. Yeah. 100%. That's interesting.
SPEAKER_00:Isn't it? Yeah, it is. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:I'm eager to see who finished this out. And honestly, I like both these teams, man. To be honest with you.
SPEAKER_00:I well. They did a thing where they they went by the states and they wanted to see who's pulling for what team. And only four states are pulling for the Dodgers, the rest of them are pulling for the Blue Jays. So it doesn't bode well if you're a uh Dodger fan. You don't have much pull unless it's unless you're from California. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And uh before we jump into uh some college basketball here, I just want to talk briefly something I forgot to add to the agenda. The WNBA is in the middle of redoing their CBA, and they could be on the brink of a lockout, uh, primarily over you guessed it, player pay.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and here's the thing: the players kind of have a little bit of an argument, but at the same time don't. And the reason being is well, let's be fair. They have been a failing product for a number of years. They have not been yielding a return. If there's no return, there's no extra money. If there's no extra money, then you can't dish out extra pay because the NBA has been propping up the WMBA for a number of years. That's not saying that the WMBA players and the WMBA product is not worth it. It's just by the numbers.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that, and you gotta think the sponsors of these teams, the owners, and some of them being MBA owners as well, they're gonna want a return on their investment before they start paying more money to players as well. So when their earnings start going up, then the trickle-down effect happens. You start seeing the players get more money. I'm not saying that they don't deserve it, but this is just part of building a sports brand, okay?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, all major, I mean, the NFL was not a multimillion dollar sport. No, until like what, the nineties, late nineties?
SPEAKER_00:They didn't they didn't get their first million dollar athlete until like eighties or nineties.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And it was like 50 years of history before that. The NB the WNBA is much more new.
SPEAKER_00:A lot of the early years of football, those guys had jobs outside of when they were playing football. That's right. You know, and same thing with baseball. Sometimes you had players that would go and work a job in the offseason and then come back and play baseball.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:You know, so it's not unheard of. And and let's let's not forget this is not a this is not a old uh old league. I mean, they've only been around since like the mid-90s.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So they're still they're still relatively young, given it. And you gotta think women's sports was not as popular coming up through the 90s and early 2000s as it is now.
SPEAKER_00:I do have a bit of side with them though, because their average contract is under a hundred thousand dollars. 85,000, I think, on average. Yeah. So for an athlete, a professional athlete, yeah, that's not a lot of money. When you see, when you see the flip side of it, yeah, you see what the other side that the NBA side is making versus the WNBA. Now, one thing they could possibly do is see if they could get in lockstep with the NBA and say, hey, could y'all help facilitate these WNBA players making a little extra?
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe what they could do is take collective fines and those fines that come in, you know, maybe dish a little of that to the WMBA and then filter the rest over to like charities and maybe maybe start propping up your your program a bit more. Yeah. Sit there and get more of an advertising front, get these girls. Out there sorry to say girls, women, get these women out there in the forefront. Get them in spots where you know you can get them advertising dollars, you know, put them on a put them on a game show, put them put them on a TV series or something. Do a guest appearance. And yeah, I agree with you.
SPEAKER_01:Let's get the get the marketing up. And some of these sponsorships, the you know, WNBA sponsorships, let's get them paying out a little bit more, contributing a little bit more.
SPEAKER_00:It has gotten a little bit better. It has gotten a little bit better. I have noticed quite a few more commercials with WMBA stars these past few years versus you know, years ago, when you may see one or two, you're seeing a lot more girls getting sorry, women getting their you know, chances at making some advertising dollars.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I mean the popular ones are getting it through endorsements and sponsorships, but you know, honestly, don't get me wrong, it could be higher, especially professional athlete, but where they are at in time and development, just let a little less than a hundred thousand to play a professional sport, like honestly, it's not that bad. You know, I mean, professional roller derby, they don't make anything. Just just uh speaking in context here. That's another sport that's been up and coming, I think, longer than the WNBA. So where the WNBA is at right now in development, I think they're at a very crucial moment. So I think if these girls were to hold out and lock out due to pay or new CBA, I think they would be doing themselves a disservice because uh the WNBA is on the ups. They're coming up right now, and especially with that three-on-three league, that's helping a lot, to be honest with you, getting them exposure. Even though it's an entirely different project put on by independent WNBA players, it's still getting the WNBA attention. Yeah, that's what you need.
SPEAKER_00:The more eyes you get, the more you can build on advertising dollars.
SPEAKER_01:I I think that they should say, all right, you know, we're we're not making what we'd like to make right now across the board, but this thing is making more money than it ever has before.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and and maybe another way they could, you know, build this is you know, put some better incentives where if your team makes the playoffs, you make a little more. If your team, if you if you wind up making the all-star game, you get a little bonus.
SPEAKER_01:I think their contracts do have. Well, I don't well that's a that well, that might be part of the business side of it. They don't know, they might not be able to bump it up a little, or they might not be willing to, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Look, attendance has been up, the eyes have been up. It it's it's gonna get there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think it's gonna get there too. Honestly, I think within the next 10 years, if they keep going the way they are, I think the WNBA, I think they will see their salaries uh inflate exponentially, to be honest with you. Maybe not to the levels of the NBA or the NFL.
SPEAKER_00:But but but you could you could start seeing athletes in the WMBA where the average salary goes up to like you know, maybe 135,000.
SPEAKER_01:Well, their highest paid players make around 150 to 160,000 now.
SPEAKER_00:Right. So those players would then move up over the quarter quarter mill mark. So everybody takes time. It it builds on itself.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, it it's like an investment pro everything takes time, nothing is overnight. You're you're not gonna be making eighty thousand dollars today and then a million dollars tomorrow. It's gonna happen over time, it may not be in your generation of playing the game, but it will, I believe it will come. But let's go ahead and move on. Let's talk about some uh college basketball real quick. What you got, Mike?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I had to bring this up because this is kind of a cool thing, uh, because I know college basketball isn't really built up right now because it still hasn't started.
SPEAKER_01:And because it's not March yet.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Most people want to take part in it in March.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody cares about college basketball until March Madness.
SPEAKER_00:We couldn't couldn't pass up talking about this because uh people may remember uh Layola when it was a 11 seed back in the uh 2018 tournament, and they were kind of like the Cinderella story of that tournament. Uh they had Sister Jean as their like good luck charm or you know, super fan, like she was their number one fan and she was at every game. Uh she was a nun that was a part of the school that was a big supporter of the team, and she has unfortunately passed away recently, and the team is gonna honor her by having a sister Jean patch on their jerseys this next season. Yep, which is really cool, and I I I wanted to say something about that because it's worth it's worth mentioning.
SPEAKER_01:I think so too. Uh that's a very honorable thing for them to do for her, and rest her soul, by the way. Uh thoughts and prayers out to her, her family, and the obviously community affected by her loss as well. Um, and I think that's a very honorable thing that uh Loyal Loyola is doing on her behalf as well, because she was a figurehead uh for them.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, and I'm sure most people, if you're into college basketball, you knew when I said said Sister Jean, you knew what I was talking about. Yeah. Before I even said, you know, the whole bit about them being the Cinderella. Um but moving over into the NBA. NBA. N the BA. We haven't really talked a lot about Utah Jazz basketball.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody really has. I don't think anybody has, not since they've been the New Orleans Jazz.
SPEAKER_00:Well, recently the Jazz won a game 138 to 134 over the Phoenix Suns, and this was back on Monday night. Now you might be asking, why am I talking about a game from back on Monday night? Well, I'm talking about that game because of the historic nature of what happened in that game with Laurie Markinen and what he did. So Laurie Markinen scored 51 points for a career high, but it is the first time that somebody in the jazz uniform has scored over 50 points since Carl Malone scored 56 over Golden State back in April 7th, 1998.
SPEAKER_01:When did they move to Utah? Like 2002. When did they move to Utah? The Jazz. The Jazz have been there for a long time, dude. Maybe I'm thinking of the Pelicans.
SPEAKER_00:The point, the point of the matter is I I'm shining some light on the fact that a a player on the jazz did something significant that hasn't been done in almost 30 years. So that's kind of why I'm bringing it in.
SPEAKER_01:That's pretty crazy, if you ask me. I like it. And maybe the jazz up and coming team, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, I mean, they're definitely playing better so far at the start of this year than they have in the past. You know, they're they're definitely off to a good start.
SPEAKER_01:Uh everybody knows though, it's not how you start, it's how you finish. By the way, who'd they just beat? What was that, the Heat or the Suns?
SPEAKER_00:No, the the team they beat, the team they beat was the Phoenix Suns. Uh yeah. Yeah, that was on Monday. But I had to bring that up because that's a pretty significant thing for them. And Markinen, I I wish he would have stayed with the Bulls, but the Bulls let him let him go elsewhere. That's just me.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. And uh next thing up, we got another funny guy tonight. We got Mike already said we got a lot of funny guys on our agenda tonight. Anthony Davis being the next one after their blowout uh from the Spurs uh a couple nights ago. Anthony Davis says there should be a height limit in the NBA, and that's because uh he was pretty much limited completely by Wimbayanna by Wimby because Wimby stands at 7-5. He's actually gained two inch two inches from the prior season. 7-6. He's yeah, okay, 7-6 now. This is 7-5. Uh, so he's actually gained two inches approximately from last season. This man keeps on growing. Um the sport that's known for height. Do you agree with that, Mike? Do you do you think that we should uh do you think the NBA, which is based around people who are tall, should have a height limit?
SPEAKER_00:There ain't gonna be no height limit. And you know what? He ain't got no room to talk because his ass is hurt again. Oh, go figure. The guy that they traded away, Anthony Davis, is hurt again. Go figure. This is the this is the whole reason they were looking to trade him in the first place, because they didn't know from day to day if the man of glass being Anthony Davis would stand up to the pressure. The man of glass when he faces a guy who can guard him inside outside and can shoot from inside outside. And here's the other thing he's a freak of nature. This is why I love Wimbayamu. This when you asked me who I'd start my team with, there's a reason I said Wimbayamu. Because this dude can handle the ball like a point guard and move up the floor and shoot from the outside as well as be inside and can block from inside and outside. He's just he's there's nothing like him. Like I I I implore everyone, if you have not seen him play, we're imploring you, watch him play. It is insane. It is insane. So, but since we started out talking about Monday games, we need to talk about some of the other games that were on that note and discuss, man. I mean, we had some pretty decent games. I mean, Cavs beating up on the Pistons, that's two playoff teams from last year, you know, and we got Sixers. Sixers doing their thing. Uh, they beat the Magic on Monday, 136 to 124. Magic are not having a great start. They're on by Monday's tally, they were one and three on the season, which is not great for them. They won't play off team last year, but they have time to turn it around.
SPEAKER_01:They do have time. I think there's what, 160 basketball games played a year or something like that. 82.
SPEAKER_00:82. Um think of baseball. You're thinking of baseball. Uh the Bulls, they pulled off the win against the Hawks 128 to 123. Uh Bulls are starting out great. They're 3-0. 3-0-0 on Mondays. 2-0 at home, not bad. Uh Nets doing what Nets do and just keep losing.
SPEAKER_01:Celtics blowing out the Pelicans, 122 to 90. Pelicans not even breaking the century mark there.
SPEAKER_00:And speaking of the other way around of teams that are off to a great start versus what the Nets are doing. The Thunder, uh, at least by Monday, they were 4-0 on the season after beating the Mavericks, which Mavericks, with all the talent they have, they are not starting off great.
SPEAKER_01:Let's think about this here. The Mavs got some young talent, relatively much considerably younger. Now, the Thunder, the defending champs, young team as well, but last year, leading team and scoring specifically in three-pointers, look for this team to be dominant again this year.
SPEAKER_00:The Thunder or the Mavs? The Thunder. Okay, because I was like, the not the Mavs. They're not so young. Not the Mavs. Well, the Mavs, one big problem the Mavs have right now is uh Kyrie Urban is already hurt. He's not even playing yet this year. Yeah. You kind of need him. And Cooper Flag, he's had flashes of his of being good, but he's playing like a rookie, and he actually had a one and nine start the other night, and they took him out of the game because of it. Uh but he's not having such a great time, and and Wimbeyama kind of introductive introduced him to the NBA.
SPEAKER_01:Don't yeah, he did Rude Awakening by the one of the tallest players in the NBA. But don't get me wrong, Flag, I think we'll catch up. He's just having some rookie growing pains right now. Good matchup from Monday. The Nuggets and the Wolves. The Nuggs and the Timberwolves. Nuggs taking that one solidly, 127 to 114. Yeah, coming away with that win. Grizzlies and the Warriors. Grizzlies fighting pretty competitively, staying close-ish, 131 to 118.
SPEAKER_00:And the Trailblazers, without their head coach Chauncey Bills, uh still pulled off a win over the Lakers, which Lakers are are dealing with injuries too. They got Luca in LeBron out. LeBron's gonna be out for a while.
SPEAKER_01:He's probably not gonna be back until probably closer to You think LeBron is kind of reaching the point in his career where maybe he's thinking about retirement. Well, he's dealing with the sciatic nerve pain. Yeah, that's an old guy problem.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, regardless, you can't really play with it because it's it's it's a pain. You know, it's a literal pain in the ass. Uh pain, ass, back, whatever. Uh, so uh coming back to uh Tuesday, uh we gotta talk about Tuesday's game, man. Between the Wizards and the Sixers. Because man, I'm telling you, low-key right now, the Sixers between their two their two stars with Maxie and Edgecombe, those guys right now, they are they are just scoring.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and that was that was a high scoring game, too. 139, 134.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, with the Sixers coming away with the win. With Maxie having 39 points, and and Edgecombe only have 14. But I'm telling you, Edgecombe, he he and Maxie have kind of been leading the way. I think through the first three games, they combined they had 182 points between the two of them. Yeah. That's a that's a pretty historic start.
SPEAKER_01:And the Wizards are starting strong, but they lost this game in the in the fourth quarter here.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but it's it still went to overtime. I mean, the Wizards had it. The Wizards had it, but they kind of let up. Uh, they were being led led by Sarr, who had had 31 points. But here's the crazy part. You know, on DraftKings, if you pick your star of the evening, and uh basically you need to have them be the top two performer in the NBA that night, yeah, in order to get a win with them. And I I saw something where if you had made a bet of SAR being the guy, like you put like 10 bucks on him, that bet would have led you like nine grand. And it it wasn't until the very towards the very end of the game that he he was off that bet. Like he did not he did not win. He was he wound up placing like fifth. But like for a split second, like you're sitting there like, oh my god, I'm about to win nine grand. But it just didn't work out. Woo! Didn't work out.
SPEAKER_01:I'm glad I didn't place that bad. Well, I would have been tempted. Oh, it'd been it'd been 10 bucks. It'd been 10 bucks. Exactly. 10 bucks to win nine grand. Hell yeah, sign me up.
SPEAKER_00:But I'm just saying, I spent 10 bucks on stupider things. I know, I know. We all have. We all have. But moving down to some more significant games from Tuesday, we had the Bucks and Knicks with the Bucks walking away with the 121 to 111 win. Johnny and the Bucks getting their third third win of the season for that for that win. Uh coming down, let's see, more significant games. Well, that's about it for games on Tuesday, because there was only uh Kings and Thunder. Thunder obviously won again, making them 5-0 on the season after that win. Uh Heat pounding on the Hornets, 144 to 117.
SPEAKER_01:At least the Hornets hit the century mark. I'll give them that one.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. Clippers lost again. Clippers 79, lowest scoring game. Yeah, it was a low-scoring game for both teams because they didn't break the uh the 100 mark. Neither of them.
SPEAKER_01:And the Clippers not even coming to 80 points. Like, come on, man, what are y'all doing? You're a playoff competitive team last season.
SPEAKER_00:Not much. But coming to Wednesdays games, we're gonna hit hit up on the Wednesday games and let you know what happened there. I think the game I really wanted to see was this this Cavtics game. Yeah. Because, you know, the Celtics, they're missing Tatum, they're missing uh a few players that have gone elsewhere, but you really wanted to see what they would come out with and see how competitive they would be with the Cavaliers, because the Cavaliers Knicks are thought to be the front runners going into this season. Well, the Celtics came to play, getting the 125 win over the 105 Cavaliers. Uh it's a pretty maligned start for them. They're two and three based on this uh this score on the case.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, relatively underwhelming start to the season, especially for what would be a championship caliber team. Well, they were when they had Tatum and all of their pieces, you know, working, but uh I mean, not too long ago they went three times, so but how about the Rockets?
SPEAKER_00:The Rockets beating the Raptors.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, the Raptors weren't that Raptors not a particularly strong team this season, but the Rockets I'm I'm eager because they're like my s my one or two second favorite team. I'm eager to see how the Rockets do, especially uh with our guy Kevin Durant on their team and a very young shooting squad. Uh I I think the Rockets take a step forward. I mean, the play they they barely made the playoffs last year. I think they go a little bit step farther this year.
SPEAKER_00:Let's see what they pull off. And we had the Pistons beating the Magic. Uh Pistons winning 1.16.
SPEAKER_01:Magic's just not a playoff team from last year beating down the Magic.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and Cunningham coming away with 30 points. He almost had a triple-double. He was about four rebounds shy of the triple double. Uh but he had 10 assists and 30 points, so good showing for him.
SPEAKER_01:And the Atlanta, Atlanta taking over the Nets 117, 112. Not a huge, huge gap in win there, but you know, the Nets 0 and 5, man. Are they the worst team in the NBA right now to start the season?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, they're scoring. There's just not I I mean, you had Michael Porter came away at 32 points, but they're not they're not putting it together and and getting you know good stops to get this team a win. Like they're just yeah, they're just kind of getting run over. I mean, it's uh it's not like they're I mean, you're talking about a five-point difference. So it's not like they it's not like they beat them down, but you know, that brings them to two and three.
SPEAKER_01:The Nets are 0-5 and 0-2 at home. Bulls looking pretty tough, man. 4-0.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, 4-0 after their win against the Kings, uh, 126 to 113. A notably, yeah. What was kind of significant in this game was the fact the fact that uh Zach Levine came back and he had he had a highlight dunk in this game, dude, where he he cut down the paint, passed a couple defenders, and just slammed it home, and it was like, oh man. Yeah, I mean that's the thing with Levine.
SPEAKER_01:Levine throws up 30 points, still wasn't enough to get the win, though.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but he, you know, being a form of bull, and you're like, you you've seen performances out of him like this, but then he doesn't show up when you need him to.
SPEAKER_01:And then the pacers out lasted by the Mavs, uh, which we were just talking about them not long ago. Uh the Mavs obviously stepping up, getting a close win, but versus a runner-up, our NBA runner-up and the Pacers. Yeah, the the Pacers 0-4 at this point.
SPEAKER_00:Well, 0-4 by one.
SPEAKER_01:Pretty rough start, but I think the Pacers, they're a late season team. I think they'll get it together before long.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you better hope. I mean, you don't want to be like these Pelicans down here, also 0-4, but they only mustered 88 points to the Nuggets 122.
SPEAKER_01:Again, another playoff competitive team, the Nuggs, the Pelicans not even hitting the century mark, not even.
SPEAKER_00:And a common theme, as we've all heard before, Joker. Joker with a triple double with his 21 points, 12 rebounds, and 10 assists. You know, typical of him. That's what kind of what he does. You know, he yeah, it's like, oh, you get surprised when he doesn't do it.
SPEAKER_01:And there is no music, not even jazz in Utah, and the Trailblazers proved it by hitting them 136 to 134.
SPEAKER_00:How about these Trailblazers? They're three and two without their head coach. Yeah. Without their head coach. Yeah. And and Laurie Markinen putting up another big game where he got 32 points, three steals, and three blocks. So, you know, he's doing something out there with the Jazz. I mean, the Jazz two and two, you know.
SPEAKER_01:And that was that was tied up when they went in. They were both two and two. Well, I guess the Jazz was two and one. Now they're two and two, and Trailblazers were two and two coming into it. They're three and two now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, it's some teams have played a few more games than others.
SPEAKER_01:Lakers taking down the Timberwolves, 116, 115. That's a close game there. 3-2-2-3.
SPEAKER_00:This was kind of a again, you know, Lakers without their two-star players and getting a huge performance out of Austin Reeves, where he put up 28 points and 16 assists. So that's a that's a darn good uh game by him, just showing, you know, his worth for that team. You know, I don't know if he'd be a number one on anybody else's team, but you know, that's some good points, some good numbers production out of him. I mean, 28 points to 16 assists, that's pretty good to me. The Grizzlies edging out the Suns 114 to 113, with John Morant coming away with 28 points, eight rebounds, seven assists. So, I mean, that's a pretty good win for the game.
SPEAKER_01:The Suns kind of weak to open the season. Grizzlies barely keeping pace at 114, having an average opening at 3-2. Uh so you know, I give it to them for getting the win. They got they got it done.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and then for tonight's games, uh Thursday, we have Magic Hornets, Wizards, or not Wizards, Warriors, Bucks, Wizards and Thunder. And they're in the middle of wrapping up the first quarter in those games right now. And then Heat and Spurs. So there's there's uh some decent matches. If I had to pick one, I want to see Heat and uh Spurs, that would be the matchup I want to see.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you you just got ahead of me. I was about to ask, who do you think's gonna win that matchup, Heat or the Spurs? Spurs. I think the Spurs got it too. I think they've got it. I think they got that win. What's their records again? The Heat's three and one, Spurs are four and oh. This could be a good matchup there. I'm telling you, man. We'll see. And at the end of the first quarter, what is that? They're 88-78. Oh, they're the third quarter. I was like, dang, they they almost got 100 points in the first quarter. I said, what the hell's going on here? They're shooting their ass off.
SPEAKER_00:No, sir. No, sir. Well, we're talking we're talking about the Magic and Hornets game. I like right now.
SPEAKER_01:I like the Hornets to make a comeback in this one. Right now, the Magic are are leading 88 to 80 81. I I like the Hornets to make a comeback here uh over the Magic.
SPEAKER_00:But you know, since we've been talking about, you know, these games and we were talking about Spurs and uh possible, you know, things that they have been known for, like load management. Uh, we got a little bit out of uh Mr. Michael Jordan on what he thinks about load management.
SPEAKER_01:He's he's at the age where he's critiquing everything, isn't he?
SPEAKER_00:Well, no, no. Like for the most part, we haven't gotten anything out of him. He's kind of like stayed away and not said anything.
SPEAKER_01:You know, he could have been. He said things here and there.
SPEAKER_00:But not not to any kind of big level. I mean, he hasn't, you know, he hasn't been like Charles Barclay, where you hear him every night. But uh Well, he's not on TV like Charles Barclay. No, and he doesn't have to be. He's got all his other ventures he's busy with. But he recently had an interview with uh I think it was Mike Tarico. He's doing this thing with NBC where he actually comes out and talks about certain topics. And I kind of would like to see more of him talk about you know players he likes to watch now and how he would attack them, yeah, or how he would play certain teams and just kind of give us that kind of that uh Kobe feel. When Kobe used to do he would kind of do the uh like his take on games, like he would say, Hey, this is why this player take this is why this player did this, and if he would have done this, he would have scored. Or if they attacked this team in more of this fashion, they would have scored more. I I wish Jordan would do a little bit of that with him, but he basically came out with this load management thing and was like it's BS. He said he said he doesn't like it, says it's it's ridiculous, they shouldn't do it. And I kind of agree with them.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, did Jordan play 86 games a season when he was playing?
SPEAKER_00:82.
SPEAKER_01:82 games, what of numbers are hard.
SPEAKER_00:Frequently scored 82, and not only did he score or did he do 82 games, but he wound up winning offensive and defensive player the same year. Yeah, won MVP multiple times. And like, look, the guy is a legend in the game. And and back when he was playing, it wasn't a big deal. Like players, they just played 82 games. You know, right they were hurt.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I kind of agree, like the load management thing, like I'm not I'm not a big fan of either.
SPEAKER_00:Oh I wish because like some people that play sports, they don't necessarily love the sport that they play. Uh you have like Kurt Gibson, for a former baseball player. He had he even said in an interview that he had more of a football mentality, but he was good at baseball.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So he wasn't as great at football as he has baseball, so he had a baseball career. But he had that football mentality of you know, grinded out, you know, gritty, you know, want to head it head-on kind of mentality. So, you know, he he was one of those players, like he was like, Yeah, I I I played baseball, I like baseball, but my first love was football. Yeah, you got guys in the NBA, they might be good at football or good at basketball, sorry. I say football because I looked up at the the screen and we got the we got the Ravens and and Dolphins game on. Who by the way just missed a field goal. Anyway, so the point of the matter is you know, you got guys in the NBA, they might just be good at at basketball, but they don't love it. You know what I mean? Like it might not be their passion.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, I mean you get in where you can you get in where you can get in. They they had an avenue to the NBA and they took it. It doesn't mean they necessarily love it, but it was a good career path.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's like Ben Simmons. Yeah, that guy almost never plays. There's always something, some reason he does not play, you know. So it's but he'd probably it's not his first love. But guys like Jordan, guys like Kobe, guys like Bird, it was a passion for them. Yeah, they wanted to be the best player and not only be the best player, but let you know they're the best player. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, like no, I agree. Like, I I agree with trying to find players who have a passion for the game, but you don't always it doesn't always go that way.
SPEAKER_00:I I gotta bring up this because I I love some of the stories of Larry Bird trash talking back in the day. He shows up at the all-star game for I forget which all-star game, but he shows up and comes in the locker room and they're gonna have the three-point contest, and he comes in there and he he in front of all of these other great athletes, he goes, Which one of you MFers is gonna be finishing second in the three-point challenge? Good old classic very very bird. Oh, dude, like there's some great ones from him, like some of the things he said, like he literally told a defender in the game, he said, I'm gonna get the ball, I'm gonna go left, I'm gonna go right, I'm gonna fade back, and I'm gonna hit the shot right in your face.
SPEAKER_01:And then he does it.
SPEAKER_00:And he did it, he did it, and then he does it. I mean, that's just that is so funny. Like, I just love trash talk like that.
SPEAKER_01:And speaking of trash talk, you know, Shaq, we're gonna jump subjects here real quick. I read a little bit about this. I'm glad you added this. I I wasn't gonna add it, but we could talk about it now. Shaq had a custom Land Rover built from Land Rover, by the way, to fit his size specifications, because he's too big for any other average vehicle out there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and this cost him a hundred and eighty thousand dollars.
SPEAKER_01:It suddenly has gone missing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And they can't find it. It was supposed to be delivered to him. They were delivering it to him.
SPEAKER_01:And it went missing, gone before he could even r receive it. Which, mind you, who's gonna fit in it? Who's gonna drive an who's gonna drive a Land Rover made for an eight-foot-tall guy? Alright.
SPEAKER_00:First off, whoever took it, you're gonna know which person it is because they're gonna be the one driving like a granny up on the damn steering wheel because they don't fit in it.
SPEAKER_01:I think Land Rovers come with what stock 20-inch wheels. This one probably has what 22s or 24s.
SPEAKER_00:Well, all I can say is if you see it or you know who has it, they're offering 10 grand for a reward. What? Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, bump that bump that up. This is like a missing child here, okay? Bump that up, son. Bump that up to a hundred grand.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the car was supposed to be delivered, it was being transported to uh Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and it was gonna be delivered to him. Let's see. Louisiana State game is where he was gonna get it. And it never showed up. So he's expecting these wheels to show up and they never do.
SPEAKER_01:And now he's in Louisiana for no reason.
SPEAKER_00:Well no, I'm sure he's good now. I'm sure he got uh got something going on, you know? He probably left.
SPEAKER_01:But more on this gambling thing though. This has been quite the rabbit hole for this.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah. So this remember when I said we have not heard the end of this thing which haunts.
SPEAKER_01:It's actually here it's actually expanded quite a bit. Like this could shut down the MBA.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think it's gonna go that far.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it's gonna go that far, but this is showing signs.
SPEAKER_00:There's gonna be heads rolling. So basically, the Senate committee is asking asking the NBA commissioner Adam Silver for details on their gambling investigation involving Terry Roger and uh and also you know, this is whole all part of that situation that got Terry Rogier and Chauncey Bills and Damon Johnson all caught up in this where it's this gambling scheme. It and it's it's multi-layered. It's multi-layered. It's not it's not just it's not just a gambling scheme on like placing prop bets, but it's a a card chart game where it was a rigged game.
SPEAKER_01:Like there's so many Apparently this is not restricted to just the NBA either. Apparently there's other sports involved in this as well, the NBA being the most prominent in the storyline.
SPEAKER_00:But this is the whole reason that all of the major sports did not want to get involved when it came to any kind of gambling. But like this is so much more than that. Yeah. This whole thing with the NBA and players being linked in with the mob, being linked in with scamming people, and all of this. I mean, it's just insane. It's it's something you would see in a movie, you know? Like you expect this to be a movie one day. Probably. War dogs. Anybody? Yeah, yeah, right? Right?
SPEAKER_01:What was that baseball one? Which one? The one with uh what's his nuts in it from Super Bad.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Moneyball? Moneyball! But like the opposite. Okay, hold on, hold on. I gotta I like the movie, but at the same time, I despise the movie.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:For two reasons.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:One they oversimplify what exactly happened with that team, and two, they don't tell tell the full story. The whole reason that team was so good was because of the damn pitching staff they had.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They had a great pitching staff, they had a great bullpen, and they hardly mention that. They talk about one bullpen guy the entire movie, but they don't talk about any of the starting pitchers they had. I mean they had a trio that was great, and they didn't even mention them. I mean they barely mention them. Where you know you had Brad Pitt's character character come over, go, hey Mark, you're gonna be good today? Like really, that's it? That's all you're gonna do. You're not gonna talk about these starting pitchers? It's just crazy, man.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe not.
SPEAKER_00:Crazy. I couldn't believe they didn't bring it up. Like if you go back and look, you can look up the the stats for that team and the the team that they based Moneyball off of, and you'll see the starting pitchers were insane.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and you know, jumping over, we ready to jump over to college ball a little bit? Hell yeah. We don't have much on college ball outside of the players thing, but it is notable.
SPEAKER_00:Oh no, we do have some things to discuss.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we do have some things discussed. Number one at the top of the list, LSU eating a$50 million separation to fire head coach Brian Kelly. By the way, Brian Kelly goes into the office. He hadn't even heard he'd been fired yet. His thumbprint didn't work Monday morning. Nobody had told him he'd been fired yet. He shows up for work and he can't get into the building. This is not the first time this has happened to a coach, okay?
SPEAKER_00:They always put a box of his stuff outside, did they?
SPEAKER_01:No, I just I think it's kind of funny when like you show up for work, they didn't even tell you, like, bro, you've been fired. He found out later that day that he was like, Go.
SPEAKER_00:You can't even show up to collect your shit. Like I wonder if he used his fake accent to talk with them like he did when he first got down there. I yee, man, I'm the head coach. Look, it was bad when he did that fake southern accent. But look, this this is where they're not gonna do they want to get away from doing these big contracts, and something that came out today is the mayor, or not the mayor, the governor of Louisiana has even gotten involved and say, hey, we're not doing this anymore. Stop giving these horrible contracts. He does not want he does not want the general manager of their of their sports program to hire anybody else or have any say in hiring somebody else because of the ridiculous nature of this contract.
SPEAKER_01:A lot of people want this job, including the honey badger, Tyrant Matthew, former LSU student himself. Yeah, they ain't gonna give it to him. I don't think so either. He's he he's he was a good player.
SPEAKER_00:They might bring him in as an assistant and let him work his way up, but I don't think they're just gonna hand it to him.
SPEAKER_01:You can't just come in as a head coach with like zero coaching experience.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but this like this is insane. Like college football, you know, there a lot of these programs they hand out these big deals and they have these huge buyouts. But here's the thing if you don't, you don't get the top dogs. That's right. Is period. Like if you're if you're as a program, you're saying we're not doing this anymore. Well, you can pretty much mark off every top coach as not coming down. Doesn't matter. No matter what school you are.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, you could be middle Tennessee State and say you're gonna give up give those big contracts out, and guess what? I get I guarantee you will get a big coach if you'll give those contracts up.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, Brian Kelly had, you know, fairly decent sized contract, but obviously didn't do much with it. So no, he didn't, but let's get down to this past week's scores. Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana. 56-6 over UCLA. You're wearing that out, dude. I love it. I love it. Because they're they're they're 8-0, 5-0 at home. The only team probably giving Ohio a run for their money in the standings. 5-0 in the Big Ten. In the big well, in the Big Ten, yeah, in the conference.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, so moving down to the Texas AM and LSU game, more of the reason why Brian Kelly got fired is they lost Texas ASM, or Texas AM 49 to 25, not a very good showing, but not even very competitive. So they're only 5-3 on the season, LSU is, so that makes it pretty hard to see them getting into the playoffs since considering they're only a 20 seed right now. You got fired for having a winning record. And this and this was a team that was ranked in the top 10 at one point. They're falling from grace big and hard. But Texas AM 4-0. Moving on to Alabama.
SPEAKER_01:Texas AM is 8-0, my bad. But going down to Alabama, like you said, Alabama 7-1, South Carolina 3-5.
SPEAKER_00:It was a tight game with them only having a touchdown separation between them with a 29 to 22 win for Alabama. Yeah. And, you know, this this is this is quite the turnaround from earlier in the year where, you know, some alum and other people were like, fire to coach.
SPEAKER_01:Why? It's always maybe look, Ohio's Ryan Day. They wanted Ohio to fire Ryan Day for like two years now, but they have like the best team in football. Look, I mean, you're you're five and oh in the SEC.
SPEAKER_00:Calm down. You're okay. It's okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I say calm down. Seven and one overall, calm the hell down.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Oregon. Cool your panties. Oregon did its thing against Wisconsin. Yeah. You know, uh there's they're ranked six right now, based on this chart going against them. They were 20.
SPEAKER_01:21 to 7. 21 to 7 against Wisconsin. Oregon looking all right. Ole Miss and Oklahoma, 34-26. What other notable matchups we got down here?
SPEAKER_00:Well, we can't shy over Georgia Tech, who's 5-0 in the ACC and 8-0 on the season with a 41-16 victory over Syracuse.
SPEAKER_01:8-0 overall for real. Go ahead, Georgia Tech.
SPEAKER_00:Miami getting on the winning side again. A beaten Stanford, 42-7.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Let's see here. What other big matchups? Oklahoma, Texas Tech. Oklahoma not even putting up a point versus Texas Tech.
SPEAKER_00:Virginia beating North Carolina in a squeaker. Trouble in Chapel Bill. 17 to 16. Bill not turning that around. Trouble in Chapel Bill all day. Tennessee putting the hurt on Kentucky. Kentucky, eh? Winning 56-34. South Florida probably gonna uh not be in the top uh. I mean that was that was a clear that was a close matchup. Memphis and South Florida. South Florida was ranked 18, uh, but now they're 6-2 and 3-1 in the American Memphis go to 7-1 there. Yeah, so now now we might see Memphis cracking into the ranked teams.
SPEAKER_01:Texas, Mississippi.
SPEAKER_00:Texas pulling off the win against Mississippi State. Yeah. 45 to 38. So now they're six and two and three and one in the SE SEC.
SPEAKER_01:How about Washington beating Illinois uh to become six and two, forcing Illinois to five and three overall?
SPEAKER_00:Which might push Illino Illinois out of the because they're only they were ranked 23. They might be pushed out of there. We might have some new new teams cracking into the to the rankings here.
SPEAKER_01:Houston might be another one of them, seven and one over Arizona State, who were five and three to come, who were five and two to come into the the uh that matchup there. And then Michigan versus Michigan State, that game sucked. I don't care who you are.
SPEAKER_00:Good good state rifle. You know, a good state game. But uh Michigan coming away with the win. So let's go ahead. We talked about the rankings. We're gonna see what is happening. Let's start with the top 10.
SPEAKER_01:Let's start with the top 10. Mike, you go ahead and take number 10. Number 10, BYU.
SPEAKER_00:Number nine, Vanderbilt. Which is pretty cool to see them get up in there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Number eight, Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech, too. Uh, Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech cracking the top ten. Number seven, Ole Miss. Number six, Oregon. Oregon getting back in the top ten. Uh five, Georgia. Number four, Alabama. Cracking the top four. There's number three is Texas AM.
SPEAKER_00:Number two is Indiana still.
SPEAKER_01:And number one is your good old Ohio State. The Ohio State. Top six teams there having no movement. Ole Miss moving up one to hit number seven. Uh, you don't see any movement until number seven in this top 25. Every other team, I mean, Notre Dame staying firmly at number 12. Uh, they're hanging on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they which which is good for them because remember, at one point they were almost out of the top 25. But as we alluded to, we need to talk about some of these teams that were not ranked and made their way in.
SPEAKER_01:And look who it is: Memphis at number 25.
SPEAKER_00:They cracked in, and then we got Utah cracking in at 24.
SPEAKER_01:That's right, USC at 23, and Houston coming in at 22. All four of those teams previously unranked. Good job for them cracking the top 25.
SPEAKER_00:And Michigan with their win moved up four spots to 21. So they were the dead last team, and they're moving up the pole. Not bad. Not to mention Louisville moving up three spots. So that's pretty good for them in the big, the big losers here, Oklahoma dropping back five spots. Missouri dropping back four spots.
SPEAKER_01:Huge drop for both of them. I think that's the biggest drop. That was the biggest drop in the rankings. A lot of up and down there, but mostly ups. We like to see that. Let's catch up with the next week's schedule. Who are we looking at here? Who's your favorite matchup?
SPEAKER_00:Good matchups for next week. Uh, we got coming up on Saturday, October. Well, no, this is not. This is last week's. Hold on. We got last week's up here. Whack.
SPEAKER_01:That was my fault. That was a horrible setup. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible Brian with an I. You should be Brian with a Y. You're so bad. That was good and terrible.
SPEAKER_00:Terrible. Terrible. Like Charles Barkley. Terrible. Anyway, we got Vanderbilt going against Texas. Vanderbilt right now, ranked nine. Texas ranked 20. We've got Ohio State Penn State. That could be a good game. I'm I'm thinking what kind of Penn State.
SPEAKER_01:Well, Penn State's not even ranked right now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but they're they're one of the they're one of those teams that, you know, you can't really count them out necessarily. I mean, they're big, big name school. And like we said, Illinois, they're not ranked anymore. They're going against Rutgers. Uh let's see.
SPEAKER_01:Air Force versus Army. Here we go. A yearly classic. Who are you taking that one? Air Force or Army? Uh take Army. I really like the Navy versus Army, but I'll work with the Air Force versus Army. It'll come. We'll have that. It's coming. I like the Air Force because they don't have anything better to do.
SPEAKER_00:We got Georgia, Florida. The Army actually has shit to do. Classic matchup of Georgia, Georgia, Florida. Georgia, Florida.
SPEAKER_01:Georgia, Florida line. Or is it the Florida Georgia line? Whatever that band's name is. I don't know. I don't listen to that.
unknown:Damn it, Mike.
SPEAKER_01:Killing me, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Not my style, sir. Not my style. I think it's Florida Georgia line. I'm gonna rest my soul on that. Oklahoma and Tennessee. Oklahoma ranked 15. Tennessee ranked 14. Oklahoma's 18, brother. 18, sorry. Numbers are hard, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The difference between a five and an eight is horrid. Anyway, uh, we also have Cincinnati, 17 ranked, going against the newly ranked Utah. That should be an interesting matchup.
SPEAKER_01:That should be interesting as well. Yes, I agree.
SPEAKER_00:I do, I, you know, sometimes I like watching these lower ranked teams going against one another because it yields some really good matchups, in my opinion, some really good ball. But that's just me, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, there's some uh mediocre matchups coming up this week. Purdue, Michigan, that's another good one. Purdue's unranked right now, but the Wolf Range just cracking into the top 25. We'll see if they can hang on to it. Yeah. So some good matchups. Yeah, not good things to watch. Good week of good week of college football coming up, everybody. Now, Mike, are you ready for the flagship sport of our show?
SPEAKER_00:Which thing is that again? I think I might need a refresher. What is that again?
SPEAKER_01:I think the question should be geared toward our listeners, actually. But I'm asking you because you're the only one here. Oh. The NFL football. Yeah, sure. Which we just got done talking about college football. Let's jump into the NFL real quick. And to start our NFL segment tonight, by the way, uh our thoughts and our our hearts and prayers and our thoughts um go out to Senator Nick Mangold, former Senator Nick Mangold, um, and his family and the community affected. He has passed away at the age of 41. Uh, Mike, this kind of hits home a little bit because we are both around the age of 40, okay? You're a little older than I am, so you'll die before me.
SPEAKER_02:But nonsense.
SPEAKER_01:Hopefully not. But anyway, Nick Mangold, uh former member of the Jets, member of the Jets Ring of Honor, uh, a stud player from a team who has very few stud moments or players in their hist in their recent history, uh, passed away. Do we know what the details were of his passing?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he he passed away from kidney disease. He he needed a kidney transplant, and actually, a month ago, he had come out and said that he needs a transplant. He had already had his entire family had themselves checked to see if they were a match because it's not it's not as simple as being the same blood type, but you also have to have a tissue match as well. And they were not a match, and very nobody in his family was a match. He was he was relying on hopefully somebody out there could be a match and willing to donate a kidney so he could still live. And yeah, you can donate a kidney and still still live. Uh you're gonna have to live under some tight guidelines. You can't really drink, you can't really do a lot of things that uh would make it harder on your body to process things because you're down to one kidney. But um having one good kidney is better than having no good kidneys, dysfunctional kidneys, like he did. Uh, and basically he'd known about this since I believe 2006. So he played his entire career knowing that he had the kidney disease and you know, still played at a high level.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So still played at a high level dealing with that, and it's unfortunate that he wasn't able to get that kidney transplant because uh there's a trend I notice. The older you get, Mike, the less likely or the harder it is to get organ transplants such as this, they tend to go to younger people.
SPEAKER_00:Oh well, and so here's the thing you know, it's not so much that they're necessarily gonna go to younger people, but they look at the situation. There's a key a bunch of key factors. Like if you're a 30-year smoker trying to get a lung transplant and you're probably not gonna get one uh because of the fact you've been a 30-year smoker, but it's also that it's not just that, it's also the fact that you you have to have these things match because you don't want to have rejection of the organs and pass away, kind of like what happened to uh oh, I forget the actress's name, she passed away recently. Uh she was she the actress who played Harriet the Spy, uh, she passed away. She was also in Buffy, but she she had a rejected organ because she had just had an organ transplant and she wanted passing away because nobody was there to see that something was wrong, and so she passed away. But uh, you know, when it comes to these things, it's not it's not very cut and dry. Right. So if you have the ability to be an organ donor, uh know that that's not something should be necessarily feared because you could help out a lot of folks by donating. I mean, because if you're donating organs, it's because you're dead. It's not because the hospital isn't gonna try to save you, it's because you have gotten to a point where they can't save you.
SPEAKER_01:So Yeah. And uh very unfortunate circumstances there, but again, you know, our thoughts and prayers uh go out to him and his family, as well as his community and the entirety of the Jets organization.
SPEAKER_00:Um Yeah, even even Ryan Fitzpatrick before this Thursday night game had had said, you know, uh that he knew him, he was a good friend, knew his family, and felt bad for for his kids, and told his kids, just know your father was a great man and was a good person and loved you all very much. So definitely impacted a lot of people.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And here, you know, on our next thing. If you're gonna get look, it's hard to tell people this. Adrian Peterson, okay. Let's just start with the headline. Adrian Peterson was asleep in his SUV before his arrest. We didn't really talk about this much last week.
SPEAKER_00:Well, well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay, this is this is kind of crazy. Because it sounds like a repeat, right? Because we had this story before. Yeah. But now we have it again. It's the same thing. Adrian Peterson gets a DUI, and this DUI is because they found him asleep in his SUV. At the gas station, mind you. Yeah. Oh I mean, granted, at least he was stopped.
SPEAKER_01:He was stopped. I don't know. I don't know if I agree with this. Like, I mean, the law is the law, right? If you're behind the wheel and you're intoxicated, you're probably likely to get a DUI, even if you're not really operating the vehicle. I think this one's kind of bullshit. He was asleep. But then again, given his recent legal history, maybe they're just done with him.
SPEAKER_00:You know, you know, it's crazy that like this stuff wasn't happening during his career. And I'm almost led to believe that maybe this has to do a little bit with a bit of uh depression, possibly, because you know, he was a he was a star. Yeah, he was he was like when you talked NFL during that time, he was one of the stars you talked about.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean he had he had an ACL tear and came back in eight months at full capacity, full performance, was a freak of nature.
SPEAKER_00:Came back, was the rushing leader, won offensive player of the year, won comeback player of the year.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Just just incredible career this man has had. So some of the off-field issues he's had, and some of them have occurred while he was in the NFL as well. Oh, you know, he's doing better than others, but still you gotta make better decisions, man.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you just hope that, you know, whatever help he needs, and this this is the importance, right? Next steps, AA.
SPEAKER_01:This is the importance of telling somebody where you're at and where you're going. Location tracking these days. Uh, if somebody he was close to would have known where he was at, I bet they probably would have saved his ass. They probably would have came and got him.
SPEAKER_00:Well, but but that's the thing. Like everybody has a phone for the most part these days, and everybody has the ability to put, you know, Uber or Lyft or some bride share of some form on their phone. And Adrian Peterson still has some money, you know, he's not like he's broke after his career. He could definitely get a ride.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he could get a ride, or like I said, tell somebody.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, come on.
SPEAKER_01:Put your location tracking on. Like, somebody has gotta be somewhat of a keeper for you. Well, you don't want somebody to have to be uh like you don't want somebody to be a keeper, but like if you had had a a girlfriend or a wife or somebody in your life, a family member, a best friend, hey man, here's my location, I'm going out, and if that person's tracking you and you've been at the same place for an exponential amount of time, like Well, we don't know how long he was there sleeping.
SPEAKER_00:He could have been there for five minutes sleeping.
SPEAKER_01:No, he had to be there for a while. If the police show up and you're at the gas pump asleep, you're you've been there for a minute. That means the police state the gas station probably called the police.
SPEAKER_00:Not necessarily. They could have been pulling in to get some coffee and they'd look over and they'd see a guy slumped over his wheel.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not buying it. I'm I'm betting the gas station is the one that reported the police because they probably thought he was dead or worse, or worse. I don't know. I less than worse. I think that's like a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00:I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. You know, this might be something where the cops just seen him. This could have been I don't I don't want to say that it was just people called the cops.
SPEAKER_01:Look, I know it's Louisiana, but I have plenty of experience with legal system. I know somebody saw him and they called the police.
SPEAKER_00:But here's the thing if if cops pull up somewhere and they see somebody slumped over their steering wheel sleep, they're gonna go say something.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, it's Louisiana. It's not like a metro area like Houston or or Norfolk, where like cool cops just pull in at will. Like he was probably in a relatively spread out area. I won't say rural, but he was probably in a relatively spread out area.
SPEAKER_00:You're speculating.
SPEAKER_01:I know we're speculating, but I know what this is. I'm certain were you there? No, but I am certain look, I know exactly what I'm looking at here. To me, he was there long enough for somebody to report it to the police.
SPEAKER_00:Hey. We don't know. So I must say let's just go ahead and move on.
SPEAKER_01:We can we can move on, but I'm I'm calling it as I see it. Um and you know, let's go ahead and jump into last week's matches real quick. First up being the Vikings and the Chargers on Thursday night. By the way, tonight we have on the Dolphins, the Ravens, the Ravens already pulling ahead, but we're gonna talk about that in a minute. Last week's Thursday night game, Vikings and the Chargers, Chargers taking it to the Vikings 37 to 10.
SPEAKER_00:And Orande Gatston, that tight end for them, his just monster showing out, and not even not even just him, but Videl, the running back. Monster in that game, man. Absolutely. Monster in that game. And here's the thing like it came out after the fact, and he's actually done for the season now. But Carson Wentz, that shoulder was a lot worse than we knew when he played that game last week. Apparently, he's now having season-ending surgery. It's his shoulder, yeah. It's his non-throwing shoulder. But some critic some people criticized the organization for even putting him out there, and Carson Wentz came to their fence and said, Look, nobody forced me to go out there. I went out there of my own will. Yeah, I mean they they asked him things. No, I made things worse.
SPEAKER_01:They asked him how he felt. They said, Hey, you feel good to go? He said, Yeah, it's not his throwing arm. We can get through it.
SPEAKER_00:And he he didn't even play the full game. They actually pulled him at one point after he took a heat.
SPEAKER_01:He wanted another opportunity because I think JJ McCarthy was gonna be up this week no matter what.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I think he he wanted another opportunity to put some game film on. I don't fault him for that. And if you look at the way the Chargers beat the Vikings, I mean, come on now, like Yeah, the Chargers had this game from Jones. They they they were in control from the very beginning. Uh here we have, you know, going into a the Dolphins actually getting a win, their second win of the season against the Falcons, who are very, very sh frustratingly streaky.
SPEAKER_00:What is this team? What is the Falcons? Like, I feel like this is the most confusing team in all of the games.
SPEAKER_01:One week they play like a uh a playoff contending team, the next week they just ten points to the Dolphins, bro. Possibly the worst team in the NFL, even beyond the Browns.
SPEAKER_00:And even more frustrating in this game is they have a player like B. John Robinson, and you don't give him the ball. They only gave him the ball like I think seven times in the game. Like, what are you doing? Give that man the ball, like run it all the time. Run it down their throat, son. Run it, throw it to him, get him the ball any way possible. And not to mention, I mean, yeah, they were down Drake London, he did not play in that game, but still, what are you doing? And then one of the best weapons in football in your life.
SPEAKER_01:Ravens getting their second win of the season, another, a bigger head scratcher than the Falcons, to be honest with you. I think this is a game of defense because they started Tyler Huntley in this, and although he played relatively better than the last game or two he's played, they still got the win a decisive 30 to 16. The Bears have been almost a powerhouse team. The Bears is another team.
SPEAKER_00:It's like, what are you?
SPEAKER_01:The Bears have been playing relatively well. Their defense is doing pretty decent. They, if I mean, just going off of fantasy stats here, uh, they put up double-digit fantasy numbers. They've been playing relatively competently. Their offense is pretty competent. The Bears have clearly taken a step forward under Ben Johnson, but it wasn't enough to beat.
SPEAKER_00:Well, they're doing better. Yes, they're doing better, but they still have some pieces they need and things to figure out. Yeah. Uh but talking about a team that figured it out, uh Bill's getting off the slide uh with a 40 to 9 win over the Panthers, and in that game, you had Cook run for over 200 yards in that game. That was a huge game for him. And it just it it getting him back on the winning ways, uh they needed that because they got the Kansas City, Kansas City Chiefs.
SPEAKER_01:200 yards without snow. The last running back I remember doing that was LaShawn McCoy, and he did that in the snow against the Lions, actually. Well, don't forget last year, I mean Saquon Barkley had that's right, Saquon Barkley had like a 200 yard game, too.
SPEAKER_00:But the the game that had everybody surprised last week, the Jets and Bengals. Woo! Where what happened?
SPEAKER_01:Like high scoring, high scoring game, 39 to 38. The Jets get the win. By the way, under Justin Fields, mind you.
SPEAKER_00:And this is after having been criticized by the owner, and Justin Fields goes out, balls out, gets his team to win this game, and I was watching this game and just thinking, like, are they gonna do this? Are they actually going to come back and win this game? This, you have to be kidding me. This is not going to happen.
SPEAKER_01:By the way, before we get too far ahead of ourselves, Aaron Glenn, non-committal of Justin Phil to remain the starter after the bye week. And going back to the Bills real quick, uh defensive tackle Oliver, they think he's torn his biceps. We got more on that coming later. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they know he did.
SPEAKER_01:Uh go back up a little bit. I think I missed something out of order. Yeah, yeah, I put Miami in the wrong place. Let's talk about some Miami woes here, real quick. Mike McDaniel was the fourth head coach to make it to his fourth year since Joe Philbin. By the way, you know how long ago that was. Uh, and their last playoff appearance was year 2000. What do you think it's gonna take for this Dolphins team to finally get past that hump? New ownership. Yeah, that's it's not like Dan Snyder, bro. No, the NFL can't just kick his ass out. Dan Snyder had to it took an act of Congress to get rid of Dan Snyder. No, it's I I'm telling you, it's ownership. I think it's ownership too at this point. The same team to trade for Josh Rosen.
SPEAKER_00:The ownership, the ownership is trash. The general manager is making horrible decisions, and they just they're not doing anything to help themselves. They're just not. You know, they every time they get something that is decent, they trade it away.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, think about think a while back that when they had Minka Fitzpatrick when he was really good, they traded him away. They sent him over to the Steelers. And then they got him back, but he's not the same player. He's not the same player. They get a Nick Chubb past this that's you know, not the Nick Chubb when he was with Denver. And you pick up Tua instead of Justin Herbert. Why did you choose Tua instead of Justin Herbert?
SPEAKER_01:I agree. I mean, Justin Herbert clearly balling out right now. Tua's got four concussions, probably on the brink of the end of his career.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you always roll the dice with him where it's like you hope he's not gonna get hurt. You hope that he'll be there. You always hope one hit away from being out every single game. So, yeah, I just look, I got a I got a buddy who's a Dolphins fan. He hates everything about the team right now. The only thing we have a buddy. Yeah, we have a buddy. Anyway, moving back down. Uh so one thing to take away from that Bengals Jets game, uh Joe Burrow got a little banged up, has a shoulder issue. He may or may not play uh this next week, which would be bad news for the Bengals because we've seen what it looks like without Joe Burrow. I thought that was a Flacco game. Flacco. Not Flacco, sorry. I don't know why I said Joe Burrow. Flacco Flacca. I'm just wanting Joe Burrow back for this team.
SPEAKER_01:I think Joe Flacco should change his name to Flacca Flacca. Which flock are you gonna get? The down flock or the up flock?
SPEAKER_00:Anyway. So moving on to this game that I really don't want to talk about, but we're gonna talk about. We have the Houston Texans against the 49ers. Look, they showed up, man. The Texans coming away with the 26-15 win, where it became exceedingly apparent that the pass rush of the 49ers is not there at all. Oh, yeah, you're missing some pieces. You're missing some pieces, but they're still five and three. There were two big takeaways for the 49ers in this. Your pass rush was not there, and your guard play is absolute trash. They need help in both those those fronts. But it's not to take anything away from the Texans, who with two pieces, their two biggest receivers down, and Kirks and Nico Collins out with concussion. I mean he picked up still picked up major yards, and they were still moving the ball. They wound up with 26 points, not by happenstance. They were they were passing and running the ball efficiently all game long. They literally only allowed the 49ers four minutes of possession on offense in the first half of this game.
SPEAKER_01:And you know, you guys picked up a little extra help which from the Patriots, who we're gonna talk about in a second. Uh Duggar or sorry, White. You guys got White from the Patriots. And Duggar obviously going to the Steelers. The Patriots at six and two are sellers here at the trade deadline, man.
SPEAKER_00:No, they're not sellers. What it is is they're they have these pieces that have bring value that are not bringing value to the team because they do not have a role that fits within the team. So because they have been downgraded in the team and there is value from other teams, they're gaining assets for the future by letting these players who are making a little more let them walk. Let them walk. Trade them. Right now, the Patriots have about 50 million in cap space, so if they wanted to go get anybody at the trade deadline, they could.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, by by the way, we thought Shadur was gonna get the last four games. Apparently, he's gonna start the next game.
SPEAKER_00:The crazy part about this game though, even though they got the 32-13 win. Do you know who's showcased in this game for the Browns? Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. Five sacks in this game. Five sacks in a game. They do have players that don't get five sacks in four games.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they don't have players that don't get five sacks in a whole season. Yeah. And Miles Garrett, people are certainly calling about him, but the Browns are uninterested in moving him. Yeah, well, we'll see about that.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, uh moving on to Oh, they're not moving Miles Garrett, I'll guarantee it. Moving on to the divisional rivalry rivalry of the Eagles and Giants.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, story of two different tales, six and two versus two and six.
SPEAKER_00:Well, remember, remember, this game, last time they played, the Giants just molliwed on the Eagles. And the Eagles were like, wait, what happened?
SPEAKER_01:I'm getting mollywapped.
SPEAKER_00:So unfortunately for the Giants in this game, this turned out horrible for them because their star player, Scataboo, went out for a pass, and when he was defended by the the defensive player, uh, he kind of got rolled up on, and his ankle got underneath, and all of the weight of the defender came crashing down on that ankle, and nah, looking good. I mean, they instantly brought out the cart, put him on the cart, took him out, immediately took him to the hospital.
SPEAKER_01:And let me tell you how special this guy Scadabo is. He's special enough. The chief of security for the Eagles, uh, Dom DeSandro, he dropped off pizzas and cheesesteaks for Scatabo and his family while he was still in a Philadelphia hospital. Is that not a level of camaraderie that I've ever seen before? The opposing team's head of security bringing your starting running back, rookie, mind you.
SPEAKER_00:So what that shows is people having respect for others and also showing a bit of humility and you know compassion for the opponent. Yeah. And that's a good thing. Uh I remember back in the day, uh John Madden, he was uh when he was the coach of the Raiders, they were going against the Patriots, and there was a Patriots receiver. Uh forgive me for not remembering his name, but the Patriots receiver took a hit and he went down, and when he went down, he didn't move. He was he was down on the ground, they they brought out a backboard, put him on a stretcher, got him out of there. He went to the hospital, and what they found out is he's paralyzed. So, and you know, they didn't know the s severity of it, so he had to stay at the hospital for quite a while. So the Patriots, their entire team, including coaching staff, leaves. None of them go to the hospital. John Madden did though. Yeah, John Madden went there every single day for a week, sitting next to this guy, talking to him, encouraging him, and even flew his wife out there to be with him. Yeah. And had his John Madden had his wife take the player's wife out shopping, loan them a car while they were out there so she could still do things and and take care of stuff. And really, he continued to have a friendship with this player even after, you know, this whole situation. Like they were friends, their families are friends years after. It's a really good story, and really what football should be for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_01:And then the here we go, Buccaneers knocking off the Saints, 23-3. Not a big surprise, they're another 6-2 team. Buccaneers quietly having a good season here, even with all the injuries mounting up.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the Saints are gonna move on move on to uh Tyler Shuck. Tyler Shu. Shuck. Shoe. It's Shuck.
SPEAKER_01:It's shu it's literally not spelled Shuck. That's how it's pronounced. I'm sorry. I think it's Tyler Shu. I know it's Shuck. Well, we'll find out this weekend. Yeah, it's Tyler Shuck. He says you say Shuck, I say Shu.
SPEAKER_00:You can keep saying Shu, but it's wrong. I'm pretty sure it's Shu. Anyway, moving on. Uh Denver Broncos handling the Cowboys 44 to 24. Uh, again, this the Cowboys no defense, man. Their defense is suffering without a pass rush. I wouldn't know, to be honest with you, as a commanders fan. No, I know you're loving it, but uh the Broncos wouldn't know. The Broncos are showing you something, though. By them putting up this kind of points and their offense hitting and their defense playing fair fairly well, you know, you have to start really considering that this division that used to be run over by the Chiefs is not that easy anymore.
SPEAKER_01:And then the Titans and the Colts, the Colts might be the best team in football, as I've said numerous times the CR. Taking up the hapless Titans, beating them 38 to 14 senseless.
SPEAKER_00:They literally rank first in almost every single category when it comes to offense. I mean, you're talking about a team that put 38 to 14 on the Titans, not that the Titans are a powerhouse, but the Sunday night game, which was one that everybody was that really loves football is looking forward to because you get Aaron Rodgers going against his former team, the Packers. Now he says there's no animosity, but you always kind of want to get that win. But, you know, and then you have the Jordan Love, the new Packers quarterback, getting to show what he can do against his former teacher. So there's a little little interesting facts going on with this game. Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_01:You said former teacher. I I explicitly remember a quote from Aaron Rodgers saying it's not his job to train the future. Right. He said that. Part of the reason he's out.
SPEAKER_00:But it had been documented and shown that he really did help him out. Like they really did, you know, work together well, where he would just watch Rodgers and ask him questions and he'd answer questions and help him out. I mean, not necessarily sitting him down and say, hey, come here, look at the playbook, let me tell you how this goes. Let me like he just asked him questions at the appropriate times and learned from them.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But anyway, it was it was really the Tucker Kraft game of this game because he was showing out in this 35 to 25 win for the Packers over the Steelers. Because the Steelers, they were just bottling up their run game all game long. I mean, it wasn't until really late in the game that they got a rushing touchdown. It was Jordan Love passing it on.
SPEAKER_01:Real quick, going back to the Broncos, just take a step back. They are assigning 41-year-old Mercedes Lewis to a tight end deal.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, he's he's going to the practice squad, but he's going to the practice squad.
SPEAKER_01:It's crazy because we just saw Darren Waller, who's breaking 40 himself, sign with the Mike with Miami. And up until recent weeks, he'd done really well with them. So um, we don't need to talk about Monday Night Football. We can jump into the next segment.
SPEAKER_00:Sir, we have to. We have to.
SPEAKER_01:We don't have to.
SPEAKER_00:Nobody cares about nobody cares about the Chiefs. Okay. We have to talk about it.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody cares about the Chiefs.
SPEAKER_00:Salty Commanders fan. Doesn't want to talk about his team losing. Nobody cares about the this is about the Chiefs and nobody cares about them, okay? Sir, a lot of people care. I don't have I don't like them, but I don't have to I still gotta talk about them. Look, point being, Chiefs came came away with the victory against Commanders 28-7. And this really, from the moment that they threw that pick after it bounced off of Debo's hands and went into the defenders' hands, is like, oh, this is over.
SPEAKER_01:That's about the time that I think myself and every other Commanders fan called it a night.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Like we literally like, well, that's a good game, boys. We're rolling. And that was in the first quarter. So I couldn't tell you what happened the rest of the game because it sucked.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I can tell you this. Since Rice has come back, you know, the Chiefs' offense looks very much like they're improved because that this team, the first few weeks of the season, just did not look like they could do much really on offense. Their run game hasn't been great. I believe Pacheco's hurt now, so they're relying solely on Kareem Hunt, who did have two touchdowns in this game. So, you know, they they got some short short yardage gains in the red zone, which you know come playoff time or come making a playoff run. You want somebody that can get you red zone points. And if they're gonna get that from him and possibly out of rice and start seeing some performance out of out of the others, you know, you might see this team pushing to try to make a run for the not only the division but into the playoffs, either as a division winner or wildcard team. But they've got to get through some of the teams in their own division because they've already lost games to people in their own division.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, that's an important the more important debate, or I guess not debate, the more important subject is Jim Mersey's collection now being up for auction.
SPEAKER_00:Oh let's let's understand that at one point Jim Mersey was offered like a billion dollars for his collection.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And this collection is pretty notable because it's it you would think, oh, it's got to be sports stuff. No, no, no. Jim Mersey. Jim Ersay was a huge, huge fan of music. He even had, I mean, he had his own his own uh band. But I mean, you're talking about, let's see.
SPEAKER_01:I I was just about to say it's it's pretty predominantly mostly music, instruments, lyrics.
SPEAKER_00:No, but he's he's got some uh some notable stuff here here here for example. Uh he includes uh he owns things by members of bands of the Beatle, Jimi Hendrix, Prince, Kurt Cobain, Eric Clapton, to name a few. He has uh one of the items he has is the Muhammad Ali Rumble Rumble in the Jungle Championship belt. Yeah, he has a saddle used by Secretariat and it's Triple Crown Run.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:Uh from you know, he's got that. So there's a number of things in his collection, not just musical instruments, but you know, I I know for the Beatles, one of the one of the things he has is the uh bass guitar used for making some of their most significant albums ever made. You know, has Jimi Hendrix guitar, Princess Guitar, Kirk Cobain's guitar he used to make the Smells Like Teen Spirit album. Smells like Teen Spirit. Um but like there's tons of things in this collection that are not just you know rooted around music or sports as kind of a collab of a lot of things. And you know, they're gonna auction this stuff off here soon. Which will be cool, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, maybe they should have a good influx of money. I'm sure they'll do something productive with it. And then, you know, a team who I think the Lions were on by this week. Um, Aiden Hutchinson and them have agreed to$141 million,$141 million guaranteed contract, by the way, is the highest non-QB contract on record.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I mean, Lions doing what the Lions do, they lock play their good players up. And, you know, speaking, you know, speaking of having extra money, I mean, they found what they want to pay it on. They want to pay it on that pass rusher. And Aiden Hutchinson's a really good player.
SPEAKER_01:He deserves yeah, I I think he does too. Um, and then you know, Zach Ertz, by the way, becoming the sixth tight end in NFL history to reach 800 receptions. Okay, congratulations to him. Uh joining the likes of um Jason Witten, Travis Kelsey, who is, by the way, still playing, uh, Antonio Gates, Shannon Sharp. Uh, so there were a couple others I I don't have listed here, but congratulations to him becoming that. Let's take a look at some of the matchups we've got. Yeah, let's jump into next week's matchups. Let's see what's going on. Right now we have the Ravens, the Dolphins, Ravens leading 14 to 6. Dolphins Mike McDaniel looking extremely frustrated on the sideline here as we go through this episode.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, it's been a common theme for them. Yeah. Uh, but you know, we got the Bears and the Bengals. You know, we'll see if Flacco plays. If he plays, I see Bengals winning this one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I do too. This is a trap game for the Bears. I I think the Bengals get it if they let them get away with it. Um Vikings, Lions, divisional matchup.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and we're gonna get JJ McCarthy a quarterback again coming off his high ankle sprain. Offense hasn't really looked good under McCarthy, so we'll see what kind of offensive uh hopefully he looks for his tight ends, his safety valves, because he was not a fan. He did not hit his tight ends from I think what it really needs to be is his coach just needs to show faith in him and say, look, I drew the plays up. If you think you see it, throw it. Yeah. If you throw a pick, oh well, we'll deal with it.
SPEAKER_01:And you know, sometimes, especially with Justin Jefferson out there, if you just put it up, he can probably go up and get it. I mean, Justin Jefferson is a tall athletic player. Yeah, he can pull down these throws.
SPEAKER_00:You have one of the best wide receivers in football. That should be your go-to every time.
SPEAKER_01:He's one of the best receivers for contested catches as well.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and not to mention, he didn't have Jordan Addison when he first was playing. True this. So now he has Addison at his ready two now. So he has more weapons now to throw to. So we'll see what we get out of him.
SPEAKER_01:Panthers, Packers. I expect the Packers come away with this one. I mean, this could be a trap game for the Packers, but I think the Packers get pulled together.
SPEAKER_00:Broncos, Texans, I'm thinking I'm thinking Broncos. I'm thinking Broncos as well.
SPEAKER_01:Texans have one of the toughest defenses in the league right now, but their offense just does not click in.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, going against one of the best defenses by the Broncos. So we'll see how that turns out.
SPEAKER_01:The Falcons and the Charges coming up. Or sorry, the Falcons and the Patriots.
SPEAKER_00:Falcons and Patriots coming up. So we have the the Falcons and Patriots. It's gonna be Patriots.
SPEAKER_01:This is like what version of the Falcons are we gonna get? I could see the Falcons coming away with it, but honestly, the Patriots are playing pretty good football right now.
SPEAKER_00:We're gonna get the version where the Patriots win. That's what's gonna happen. I think you're right.
SPEAKER_01:I agree with you.
SPEAKER_00:Moving on to the Niners and Giants, a one o'clock game.
SPEAKER_01:I'm taking the Niners on this one. Thank you, sir. Unless Jackson Dark comes out and just slings it everywhere. I'm I'm taking the Niners here. Yeah, well, if they had if they had Scadabo, I'd probably give the Giants the edge, but uh the 49ers, I'm I'm taking them all day here. Colts I'm gonna choose not to say anything on it. The Colts, I'm thinking I'm taking the Colts over the Steelers. Aaron Rodgers is not throwing more than two touchdowns, two touchdowns a game. Danny Dines was dropping three to four a game, plus their all-star running back.
SPEAKER_00:And even though the Steelers kind of kept the Packers from running all over them, I don't know that they'll have the same success again against Jonathan Taylor and that run game of the Colts.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't I don't think so either. I mean, they had a tough time with the Bengals. I don't I think they're gonna have a harder time with the Colts. Chargers, Titans, Chargers, I think this is pretty easy.
SPEAKER_00:Chargers are gonna win that game.
SPEAKER_01:Unless that temporary offensive coordinator has something up his sleeve. I'm taking the Chargers on that one. Saints, Rams? I want to say Saints, but I know I can't. I'm taking I'm taking the Rams. I don't think their rookie quarterback for the Saints is gonna come out and get a win right off the bat, especially against the You know what though?
SPEAKER_00:If he did, man, you're gonna have a fan base in love with him.
SPEAKER_01:I'll be picking him up in fantasy if that's the case. Uh Jaguars, Raiders. I don't care about this game at all. I'm just gonna say that up front.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I I care about for the fact I want to see what kind of version of the Jaguars we get. I want to see if the Jaguars can go and beat up on a down team of the Raiders.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they're both kind of down, they both got some injuries. Now, Brock Bowers is coming back, and the Jaguars are down, Bretton Strange. I just want to see what kind of Jaguars we get. I think the Raiders getting Bowers back will give Raiders the edge.
SPEAKER_00:And the premier game on Sunday at 4.25. Chiefs and Bills. Chiefs and Bills at the Bills' house.
SPEAKER_01:Both with five wins apiece.
SPEAKER_00:Um this is a tough call. The last time they played in the Bills' house, the Bills came away with the victory. And they had everything that they have now, as far as the Chiefs, they had everybody healthy then.
SPEAKER_01:So this is defense to me. This is whoever plays better defense. Now, the Bills' defense has lagged here or there in the last couple weeks, is why they dropped a couple crucial ones. The Bills probably are a better team than their five and two record shows.
SPEAKER_00:I I honestly I think it's it's gonna be based on what they can do with the receiving game for the Bills. Yeah, the Bills need to create some separation, which they've been having trouble with, and which is why they were on a skid those last two games before they play played the Panthers. But they need to create some separation either by the play scheme or by going out and trading for a wide receiver. I've heard everything from you know trading for Waddle from the from Miami to trading for Olave from the Saints. They just need somebody who can create separation, they're not getting it from their receivers. Yeah, the scheme is just not creating it. So maybe they'd need some better play calling on the room.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, rookie Keon Coleman's got to step up. Uh, you know, Shakir, he's he's been a good middle ground uh receiver, but just not quite showing true number one capability.
SPEAKER_00:Well, Shakir's not supposed to be a number one, he's supposed to be the slot receiver, you know, the guy that's supposed to help aid in creating separation.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Unless James Cook goes out and has another 200-yard game, I'm giving this one to the Chiefs.
SPEAKER_00:Going on to the Sunday night game, we got the Commandants and Seahawks.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not even gonna try.
SPEAKER_00:You're not gonna even try?
SPEAKER_01:I'm not even gonna try. We've lost stupider games. Well, well, you you you've got Jaden Daniels coming back. No, we don't. He's out. He's out. No, he's not.
SPEAKER_00:He's out again. Sir, Terry McLaurin is out. So is Jaden Daniels. No, he's not. He's been practicing. He is going to play in this game. He is going to play in this game. We'll see. If he plays in this game, would you believe?
SPEAKER_01:Are you a believer? No, because they still don't have their number one receiver.
SPEAKER_00:He was playing without them all year long when you guys got those three ways.
SPEAKER_01:He's practicing now, but the Seahawks, don't get me wrong, I don't think they're as good as their five and two record shows. But I without Terry McLaurin, a limited Debo, and Jaden, even if he does play, is gonna be limited. Um, I would I'm always gonna take the commanders to win. That's my team. But if I'm being realistic, I think it's gonna be a tough fight for them. I mean, they have to lock down JSN among other weapons out there. The defense for the commanders has not been playing very well this season.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, I I hate to say it, I don't think y'all are winning this game.
SPEAKER_01:No, but Monday night, I think the Cowboys get a loss. I think the no defense Cowboys take one to the face from the Cardinals. I think the Cardinals go in there, I think they get that win. The Cowboys have been a high-scoring team.
SPEAKER_00:They are getting Kyler Murray back, which is presumably good for them, but they've been getting better play out of Brissett, you know, in their backup quarterback. I just don't know that you're gonna get the same same out of Kyler Murray, because uh they just really need for something to happen in the passing game. If they can and the run game has been been just atrocious since they lost Connor.
SPEAKER_01:If they can limit Javante Williams, I I think they can limit the Cowboys offense as a whole.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, weirder things have happened, and I mean the Cowboys have been an up and down team, but the way that Dak has been playing, he's been he's been one of the better quarterbacks this year. And if you just look at the numbers, he's he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Speaking of one of the best quarterbacks, this could be a game where the Cowboys just get back to 500.
SPEAKER_01:That brings me to our halfway through the season, we're going into week nine now, Mike. Who do you think potential MVP prospects are?
SPEAKER_00:Uh well, I know who I want to give it to. Brock Purdy. No, he hadn't been playing. Fred Warner. No, it's he's hurt, dude. He's out. Christian McCaffrey. It's nobody on the Niners. God damn it. No, he knew. No. The player that I think deserves it is Jonathan Taylor because he's putting up historic numbers for a running back.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:This guy, like people are sleeping on him and they need to stop.
SPEAKER_01:He could be the first non-QB MVP in a long time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, there has not been one since Sean Alexander back back in like 06.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, he's already got a thousand yards, and we're not even half, we're barely halfway through the season. Um I think about all the touchdowns. He's got he's got a ton of touchdowns, 14 total touchdowns.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh and zero. This is really the X factor here. Zero fumbles. Okay. Zero fumbles. Okay, that is an incredibly good ratio given that he's got 14 touchdowns over a thousand yards, has touched it 186 times.
SPEAKER_00:Let's face it, MVP goes to the quarterbacks, and unfortunately, uh most fans are stupid, or at least I should say the writers are stupid, and they're already trying to give it to Patrick Mahomes. And it's like, well, wait a second.
SPEAKER_01:No, if anything, it's gonna be look, I think Jonathan Taylor is a great candidate, but if anything, it would go to John it would go to Daniel Jones because look, he has turned that team around, and everybody said he wouldn't. Okay. Oh let's remember how you said no fumbles for Taylor?
SPEAKER_00:There are zero, zero interceptions for Daniel Jones. Yeah. He has not thrown an interception. We are nine games in. He has no interceptions. All the other teams, all the other quarterbacks, find me one that doesn't have and they're in they're in the first year of this coaching staff as well. Patrick Mahomes threw two the other day.
SPEAKER_01:They're in the first year of this coaching staff. They just got rid of Frank Reich last year. Uh so not last year. It's been two years under this coach. Was it two years? I thought it was last year. Because we talked about this on the podcast. No. No.
SPEAKER_00:It's been two years. Well, either way. Point of the matter is they're gonna put the wrong people ahead just because of name value, and they're basically giving it to people who it's like the NFL is usually what have you done for me lately, but it seems like here lately it's whoever's the name. So they've been giving it to the name and not who really deserves it. Because last year, it should have been Barclay that got it. Yeah. But they didn't give it to Barclay. And I I'm kind of tired of the way they do MVP, to be honest.
SPEAKER_01:And real quick, just to wrap up the episode tonight, we're gonna jump into this our last funny guy of the evening. Cam Newton. What comes to mind? So by the way, this is our last funny guy. Alright, Cam Newton was supposed to be on a good a good segment of um what was it called? Uh first take, one of ESPN's things. And uh during the take, this is supposed to be a fun HBCU segment, ESPN's first take, and it turned into a moment of chaos when Cam knew. By the way, slaps Alabama as Alabama AM's bulldog mascot. After it tried to take his hat on film on live TV, uh the former NFL MVP didn't hesitate. He spun around and smacked the mascot. He said, Don't touch my effing hat. Uh it costs more than your costume. And he wanted to play around. Nah, that was a quote from Cam Newton. Uh, as the two started shoving on TV, and Stephen, go figure, Stephen A. Smith is in charge of this interview. He's yelling, this is insanity. Um The Bulldog, the the mascot was squared up as they were being pulled apart. This was just a wild first take moment, Mike. Oh. Cam Newton has been involved in a number of sideline incidents here in the last few months. So I I don't recall, but this one. No, I I don't recall all of it. I saw multiple. I'm like, what do you think? Well, he he got into another one at Colorado States uh a year or so ago. I think he was talking to somebody, it might have even been Travis Hunter. Um he said something to them. I forgot what the altercation about, but somebody says something offensive to him, and he told him basically to fuck off. Pam's not shy about telling people how he knows it's not a very flamboyant former player at that. But thank you everybody once again for joining us for another episode of Sports Banter. Um, once again, to those of you going out tomorrow night on Halloween night, be safe, collect a lot of candy for us, and we hope you have a fun time. My name is Brian with an eye. And I'm Mike, and we are two for the win. Thanks, everybody.