Live Recording At The American Business Women's Association Meeting

We share how a simple, audio-only podcast outpaced SEO, educated prospects on B2B trade, and opened doors to sponsors and even a video game cameo. The workflow stays light, the topics align with real searches, and distribution meets listeners where they already network.

• origin story of Trader Stew and early businesses
• why podcasting over SEO for educating prospects
• how trade credits and fees work in a curated network
• audio-only setup and minimal-edit workflow
• building authority through consistent publishing
• seasons used as chapters for navigation
• trend-led topics and AI-assisted outlines
• distribution via LinkedIn and Alignable for reach
• Buzzsprout hosting, leveling, and monetization metrics
• practical gear options from phone mics to wireless kits
• avoiding podfade by lowering friction to ship
• turning collaborations into sponsorships and evergreen placements

Be good or be good at it

Chapters

• 0:00 Why Share This Talk Recording
• 2:26 Who Is Trader Stew
• 5:20 From Family Business To Sales And Side Hustles
• 8:20 The Trade Network Explained
• 11:06 Starting A Podcast To Educate Prospects
• 14:10 Audio-Only Workflow And Tools
• 17:05 Authority, Sponsorships, And Unexpected Wins
• 20:05 Seasons As Chapters Strategy
• 22:20 Beat Podfade: Keep It Simple
• 24:05 Distribution, Monetization, And Metrics
• 27:05 Gear Q&A: Mics, Phones, Setups
• 29:10 Content Planning With Trends And AI
• 31:05 Hosting Platforms, Leveling, And Automation

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:02

Hello and welcome to the Trading Post Podcast, where we unlock the secrets of business-to-business trade, dive into powerful networking strategies, and share my exciting journey of using a podcast to market my business instead of relying on SEO. I'm your host, Trader Stew. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Trading Post Podcast. I got something a little bit different uh scheduled for today. Over the last week, I was scheduled to speak at the American Business Women's Association or the ABWA at their monthly meeting and talk about the benefits of using a podcast as a platform for advertising or marketing of business and the ins and outs of using a podcast and doing a podcast and the equipment needed and you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And I recorded myself during it, and so I wanted to upload it for you because I mean why not? I asked if I could, and they said it was all right, and I I figured, you know what, even the audio is gonna be a little, I think, uh sketchy. Well, I don't know. I use the same microphone as usual, however, there's gonna be some background noise, uh, some maybe some chatter. I was at the what do you call it, arcade out there, Dave and Busters. So there's some background noise with that, maybe some arcade games, definitely dishes and plates and silverware because I was speaking while everyone was eating, so to speak, you know, one of those things, like it was like a dinner conversation. So I was real laid back, real chill, and I tried to just do mostly questions and answers because I mean I can talk at or to anybody through the podcast. I wanted to make it more on a personal level and answer any and all questions that they had there. So I'm gonna keep this intro short and basically that's it. I'm gonna just un-edited the upload, and it's about looks like 30 minutes long, maybe. And I'll go through, maybe do some rough edits and maybe some pauses, but you're here and there. But really, it's just gonna be raw, uncut, unedited footage, so or recording, I guess you could say. So that's it. That's enough of me talking. I'm gonna go ahead and upload that and connect that here, and we'll see you in the next week, next show. Thank you. Be good or be good at it. Sounds weird saying it right after the intro. Good evening, Stuart Aldridge. Or gotta go by trader Stu as well for the podcast. It's just a fun little gimmick that I started made up to have fun with it. I'm also the sales and marketing manager from Metro Trading Association and of course the Trading Post Podcast. So thank you, of course, for having me. And then also to Janet who invited me. I met her at the Velocity Center in Sterling Heights, and then again the one million cups networking thing. And then she actually came to one of my events. I started networking with kids thing where my wife and I were trying to kind of make make friends with other parents, but they're also maybe business people or entrepreneurs or whatever. So I had a networking event at Jungle Java, and then that way the kids could play in the tunnels and the parents could hand out business cards, you know. So we did that for a little while. And now, actually, Dr. Mary, if you don't know her, okay, yeah. She started, she's uh at the uh move on Mound Road or Van Dyke, I think it is. Yep, and uh so she's doing the networking event there now. Right, so right before she does the bag stuffing on the second Monday of the month, she's now hosting what was networking with kids. Now it's called the Ripple Effect, and it's at her location now. So, and uh anyway. So, who am I? I guess, and like you know, where where do I come from? What my I guess roots. So I grew up in Frankenmouth, Michigan, and my parents started several businesses. We had J.R. RickyCons, which was a uh pizza place, and we did donuts and bread out of a house. We moved to Main Street Tavern, which is right on the road there on uh on top of the hill, right next to my grandpa's place, which was Sato Drugstore. He owned that, and then we bought the Blue Dolphin and then turned that into Harry's Bistro. And all along I was working since I was this big, probably I don't know, first grade, whatever the hell that is, doing bar back, running, you know, the beer for the for the uh bartenders, and then I was washing dishes and helping, you know, kind of getting in like well, not other meetings, but helping with you know the bookwork or stuff like that, and watching my mom and my dad do it, and then you know, you know, on phone calls and conference calls and things like that. So I've been kind of in the business mindset since I can remember, and so that's where I come from with that. And I kind of got out of the out of the last one was Frank and Miss Franklin Moose Cigar Company. I I just said no more family businesses, so and I left that. So no more, I didn't do cigars, but I did I was in New York City just trying to be an actor, and so I did door-to-door sales in all five boroughs in New York, so the Bronx, Manhattan, you know, Brooklyn, Queens, literally door knocking and doing sales there, and then of course I done the MLM stuff with EcoQuest. I tried that, and then after all that, I started an aerial photography business with drones, and then COVID hit, and then no more gatherings, so no more photography for gatherings and weddings and graduations. So to get my money back on the drone, I was like, Well, I could do gutter cleaning, so it would do the inspections with the drone and do the gutter inspection and show them the before and after the gutter cleaning. So I did that until my shoulders couldn't handle that no more and sold all that stuff. So, but I got my money back in the drone, that's all that matters. So I spent top of the money on the drone. So, what else? So, yeah, that's um I'm gonna basically kind of walk you through how I got into podcasting and why and the kind of the road that it took me on. So, what happened was is I was with Metro Trading Association in 2013, and then I became a sales manager 2014, 2015 time frame. Then I had my own kind of crew, and uh we were I was in Genesee County area, and I had I think six sales reps, and we were doing really well, and then a company came along and headhunted me essentially and offered me an amount of money that I couldn't refuse, essentially. So, excuse me, after eight years, I got laid off from there, and then I stayed in contact with Mike and Lois, the owners of Metro Trading Association, always on good terms, and I even had one of my businesses the the photography drone uh gutter cleaning with Metro Trade as well. So I've been kind of like the account management membership sign up, and also I have my own business in it as well. So I really believe in trade. And so when I came back, I ran into some issues where I had another complication when I explained trade and barter and how it works and business and business barter that people thought I was in crypto now because you know that was nowadays, right? So back then I was competing and with the whole trade, like I don't you know, trade one for one or bartering, or I need cash and all of those usual problems that I would run into. Now I had all that plus the crypto thing. So uh Mike Mercier, the owner of Metro Trading Association, was like, why don't you go on podcasts? And that's the new thing now that everyone's doing, and kind of explain that, be interviewed, and explain it on how what trade is because it you're not getting any traction right now. So I was all right. So I looked around in the chamber of commerce, and then I met somebody who did Good Neighbor Podcast. Good neighbor podcast is a franchise, so sweet her last name is Sweeney. She would do the Rochester one, and then I would, you know, I was it was uploaded, and I didn't really get anything for marketing-wise for me, but it was at least exposure, and then gave me the idea to be like, well, that was easy. Why don't I just start my own podcast? Because I was a YouTuber as well, so I kind of already had some traction in the game to where podcasting was definitely easier for me because there's no video, I don't do video. Uh there's video podcasts, like Joe Rogan and stuff like that, but I'm audio only because it's so much more editing to do video, and you have to make sure the lighting's right, you're wearing the right stuff, you got the shadows, you know, and the background, and it's just a lot, a lot more work. And then you got when you do the edit of the video and the audio, you gotta clip the same things, it's just a mess. So I said audio only, minimal processing, minimal editing was my idea, and and just see what happens. So when I talk to people on the phone and I try and explain trade, they you know want more information, usually, right? So instead of sending them a brochure or a flyer or an email or my website that links them to Metro Trade, and by the way, we've been around since 1978, so it's not like exactly a new deal, right? But but new business owners don't know. They just it's not in college, it's not in entrepreneur, you know, schools and things like that. So I was like, why don't I just make three episodes with of a podcast just to explain it, just to give them a link, check it out. Here's what it is, here's what here's what the Metro Trade is, and then you know, listen to it when you pick up the kids or whatever, and then let me know what you think. And that's how it kind of started. Because when you are, if you don't know, I guess I'll give you a background real quick on trade. Business to business barter or trade is a credit system, so it's like a Visa, MasterCard, Metro trade. But the the difference is that you're in a group with members who are gonna go out of their way and try and do business with you first before they go outside in the open market. So it's like joining a chamber of commerce or whatever, a BI group, but you get a guaranteed result. So, like a membership fee is 400 bucks, but if you don't get$400 in business the first year, we give you your money back minus the difference of whatever we got for you. So if I got you$300 in business, you get$100 back, whatever, right? So that's the guarantee. And a lot of times for big restaurants, I just let them let them in because they're gonna do such high volume that uh, you know, it's okay for me to uh waive my commission and bring them in the group because all the members are gonna love the new restaurant. So now the restaurant, let's just say it's a restaurant, you go there for$100 and trade. They now have 100 trade credits in their system to spend with whoever they want in the system. So it's not a one-to-one barter, it's not like you're trading furs for jerky anymore. It's you know it goes into a credit base so you can store the wealth, and then the only fee really is that point is a 12% transaction fee for us doing all the marketing, the emailing, the phone calls, so you have brokers that put deals together, all that is not really paid for until you do the transaction. So it's joining a membership group that you don't pay for until you get results. It's a you know, so it's really nice that way. Um, and then we do the monthly fee, 19 bucks a month, but that's after the first year. So you literally get a whole year to try us out basically for no charge. So, but it's hard to explain that on the phone or even in person. So the podcast came out. So, what I did with that was I did three the three episodes, and then I started getting listeners all over the world without me even marketing it that way. Because with AI now, there's like the SEO. If you do your descriptions right, it'll crawl for keywords, and then you'll be a hit on a search result for somebody in my case, like Australia and Great Britain, and then Germany. And I was just like, Whoa, what's going on here? You know, I was like, Well, maybe I'll just keep doing it and I'll just keep uploading audio. I mean, it doesn't cost me nothing. The microphone I'm wearing right now, I think was 250 bucks. And I have another mic that I don't use because this is fine, this is great. I do it in my car, I do it in my office or my basement. I started off in my sauna in the basement. I bought a house with a sauna in it, and I turned it into a sauna studio because we never use it for anything else, so it's just dead space sitting there. So I was like, Oh, this is great. I use it for a studio, you know. So you can do it anywhere you want, and you don't have to have the best, you know, equipment. And with the cameras, it becomes another issue, but you can have your camera on your iPhone, it's just as good as anything else anymore. So you can do it that way as well. So the benefit is where I kind of and got a lot of traction, I guess you could say, was that when I was doing all of the podcasting, now you become kind of a professional or a guru in your in your field. So now when you're at chamber events, people come to you and they say, Hey, I heard you're you have a podcast and they want to talk to you, and you know, what do you know, and things like that. So now you become people come to you instead of you having to go to them. So it marketed it that way for me. So the reason why I did it as the trading post podcast is because, of course, trade and barter, you know, it just kind of made sense. I was like the trading post, the trading post in the old west is where you came to do all your commerce, it's where you came to bring your goods and do all your transactions, and that's kind of what Metro Trading Association is. So, and then I did it under my own brand. That way I don't have to ask permission for things when I when I want to market, yeah, whatever, right? So Metro Trade sponsors me and they get all the logo and everything that I have, and yeah, I'm also part of Metro Trade, but they are just you know an icon or whatever a sponsorship in in the uh Metro trade or in the trading post. And then I was in a lineable, and then I got sponsored by Michigan Renaissance Festival, so it's kind of cool to where I was like, man, it'd be cool. Before that, I was like, why why don't I try and make it so instead of paying for advertising, I get paid to advertise. That's fun. So, you know, I'm not getting paid by Michigan Renaissance Festival. We traded tickets like they do on radio stations in exchange for mentions, but it's a start, you know. One day maybe I'll get a real sponsorship where I'm getting paid money, or I'll get enough downloads to where I'll get monetization for just uploading a podcast and getting all the listenership that they'll get. I'll get kickbacks for that. Or even if I get uh product sponsorships, you get kickbacks on that as well at commissions. So that's it, was kind of like wow, that that happened quick. I think I had the idea, and a week or later, they she texted me or was on alignable. Lucy from Michigan Renaissance Festival wanted me, wanted to sponsor me, and then I realized something really cool that happened with the podcast. I talked to somebody else on alignable, and she owns Press X to play games, and she got a funding by Epic Games. If Epic is like a big to-do of video games, to create a uh it's called Get Prepped, the video game. She's designing a video game, and she asked if I wanted to be in a video game as the trader at the trading post for the post-apocalyptic video game, and then within the game, there's all the people that walk around, they get real-time advertisements. So, like I got a QR code behind me in the trading post. The Metro Trade will probably be in there as an advertisement in the trading post. So, and that's evergreen content. There's I think they said 35 million video game players worldwide, and they're not just like the 14-year-old in the basement anymore. These gamers are, you know, 30, 40 years old that are doctors and lawyers, and they go and play video games to defrag from the stresses of life and check out. So that's huge money online to where this is gonna be a whole new deal, to where people are gonna do all of their networking and shopping and walking around in real life, virtual real life, real life in these these games. So she's selling ad space for like twenty thousand dollars within the video game to where if like David Busters would pay for their slot, then David Busters would be the hub for coming in to exchange, I don't know, food and weapons or whatever the game's about, you know. So they're evergreen in the video game. It's kind of cool. So I got a free slot in there in their video game, and that just happened because I had a pot a podcast and I was using it to advertise Metro Trade. I was like, wow, okay, that's like three three wall breaks, you know. I didn't expect that to happen. And and like I said, evergreen content because an average video game's lifespan is six years, and then they'll do upgrades if it's a good game and make it go eight or ten years. And and Disney World, I guess, sponsored their own island in a video game and spent, I think, 30 million dollars for this video for this island and the video game, a virtual video game. So it's it's it's a way to think about outside the box on how to market yourselves for the future. And gaming is the future, you know, with the meta quest and all that stuff in virtual reality. It's here, so that just kind of happened within the last the game's not launched yet. This winter, I think it's a beta test, and I think it's officially launched in the spring. It's called Get Prepped and pretty cool. I'm excited for it. I always wanted to be in a video game, you know. When I was young, I was like, man, it'd be cool is to be like the guy walking around in the video game, and now I get to be that guy, but I didn't voice my own character. I had somebody, she's she had somebody else, a professional voice actor, voice me, but I sent her pictures, so she's gonna do like my likeness with the hat and the vest, you know, walking around this trading post. Kind of cool, so yeah. What else? One thing I am doing different if you're looking at doing a podcast, is because I come from the YouTube world that I used seasons as uh chapters. So with my seasons, I do like a season one, I'm looking for it right now, is a trade education and member spotlights. That's like what I talk about in season one. But I could do like a season three today and then do a season one next Tuesday when I upload, because I have no, I'm not using seasons as a sequential order of events like everybody else in the podcast realm. I'm using it as chapters. So if you know, think outside the box, maybe something like that too. If you're looking at doing things and you want to educate people on your product, do it maybe something like that. It's I'm trying it, I don't know if it's gonna work or not. 40, 50 episodes into it. I've been doing it for a year, and so you know there's uh something that might catch on. And then season two for me is sales and marketing and networking, and then season three is promoting or my journey on promoting a business via podcasting because uh people will talk about oh, podcasting is the way the future to market businesses, and you need to start a podcast to be a good marketer, but then no one talks about you know, 47% of podcasts fail before before they get the third upload on. Um, and I think most don't get uh um 50 uploads or something like that. It's like 99% fail rate, but because they overthink it, you know, you just gotta like hit record, as you know. I used to do P90X back in the day, and Tony Hoitner always say just push play, just push play and do what you can, and then forget the rest. With podcasting, it's the same thing, just hit record, don't edit too much, you're gonna stress yourself out and hit upload and uh don't worry about who's listening or who isn't gonna listen because your first 10 podcasts, unless you market them to like LinkedIn or alignable, you probably won't get any listens, anyways. So don't stress too much about making the perfect audio, the perfect everything, and perfect cuts and perfect editing. Because it's you know the reality is is there's I think 20 million podcasts worldwide. So unless you have really good SEO or someone's really looking for your content to learn from, you probably won't get a listener unless you market to LinkedIn. Then when you put it on LinkedIn, people listen. That's how I get all my my listeners. I just do a quick upload, a quick, I guess, a synopsis of the episode, and boom, I get I get listeners that night, you know. But if I don't, it's like crickets. So you you have to market also on LinkedIn or alignable. That's what I do. If you're not on a lineable, it's like business to business. You kind of skip the middleman and you get right to the entrepreneurs, and there's no like salesy people on there trying to promote you things on like they do on LinkedIn. But it's just a lineable cuts all that stuff out. It's like uh Facebook for business owners or salespeople, so it's kind of nice for that. Not that it's a plug for Linable, but what else? How much time I have left? Three minutes. Cool. Let's see. I I always think of like uh TED talk, you know. You they get they time you, I think it's 15 minutes you get. What else? Yeah, you know what? I hit everything. Is there any questions in the last three minutes before I wrap up here? Because I was trying to just think think of things that I could talk about to where it wouldn't just be on my podcast. I talk about a lot of things on how to promote and use uh use the podcast. So I was just gonna, you know, open it up for that. But basically that's it. Barter builds partnerships, podcasting educates in markets, and new media expands reach. I always say turn challenges and opportunities and trade what you have to get what you need. So that's it. Thank you very much. Go on.

SPEAKER_01: 21:56

Um equipment. What equipment do you need to do a podcast?

SPEAKER_00: 22:00

This is it. I got the uh DJI, it's called a DJI, uh DJ uh J as in Joker, I as an India microphone, it's wireless. You get uh mine. I got two of these wireless mics. This is the receiver, that's it. Or you can just use the your phone. Well, I wouldn't use just your phone like this, it would sound terrible, but I would use the phone records the podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just plugs in my phone. Yeah, and you can use an Apple or Android, it don't matter. It's got an adapter for both. And or you could if just to get started, just use the thing that comes with your phone, the earbud with the microphone. I've seen people do that on YouTube. Just talk into your mic, you know, with the wire, and just try it. And you know, just get get the butterflies out and just do an upload and get past the first three before you invest any money in it. That's what I always say.

SPEAKER_02: 22:55

Yeah, there's actually not a big preacher, like microphone.

SPEAKER_00: 23:00

I have one of those. I use this. I have one of those at work. It's got some the really good microphone with a USB, it's got it's called an audio vox, it's got the compression microphone. I bought the foam thing for it with the pop filter that goes over like a what's called a pop screen to get rid of all that pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. When you when you talk into a mic, it gets rid of all that, so you just talk it on the side. And I you I've used it, but in the bottom line, this is just so much easier to pop out. And from the time she was announcing me to get up here, it was all done.

SPEAKER_02: 23:36

You know, for your podcast, primarily you use what what we see in front of us, right?

SPEAKER_00: 23:40

This is it. This is what I use for a podcast, yeah. And I mean, if you if you're outside, there's a uh a filter, like a fuzzy thing you put on the mic so it pop it breaks the wind. It's got a magnet that comes with it, or I use the clip mostly, but this has this little magnet that pops right off. You just put it like that if you want and clip it on. Yeah, or I see a lot of um I watch uh a YouTuber, he puts it on his hat right here, and that way you don't worry about your clothes rubbing or nothing like that, and you can do that as well. Yeah, so so with oh sorry.

SPEAKER_02: 24:19

Oh god. No, I'm just gonna in terms of content, do you do you make it like very structured or if you prefer to just do it sort of just whatever comes to your mind, you just talk through it? Like what's that look like?

SPEAKER_00: 24:31

Yeah, yeah. So throughout the week, whatever's kind of happening around the world, because I'm in the business sector of everything and trade, whatever. So I talk about business a lot. So I'll usually try and gear it to whatever kind of current events are happening because people are already searching for that on Google, and then I'll look at Google Analytics and I'll look at the top maybe 10 keywords that are being searched for within the last 72 hours, and then I'll try and gear a podcast on that. So then that way I get uh clicks and SEO, search engine optimization if you all SEOs to for them to automatically find my podcast without having to market it too much, you know, and I'll use AI to help me build a script. So I'll I'll ask AI. I use Perplexity, it's not I I just like perplexity because it uses like seven different AIs in one, and it finds the best one to utilize for whatever content you're generating. So anyway, Perplexity will tell me, I'll say, hey, create content based upon the tariffs and how it affects small businesses in the food, the seafood sector, importing lobsters out, something like that. And then hey, I will and make it 20 minutes done. And then it gives me all the keynotes, the bullet points, and everything. And I print it out or whatever for my phone and and I read from that basically.

SPEAKER_02: 25:48

So what is the 23? You said 23 minutes is the magic. What is like why? Like what is that 23 minutes?

SPEAKER_00: 25:54

So I use uh the podcast platform I use is called Buzzsprout, and it's what it what that is, is that that's your main hub to that you upload your podcast to, and there's others, but I use Buzzsprout because I was familiar with it. And then what that does is it generates what's called an RSS feed, and then when you upload to Buzzprout, it automatically goes to every every podcast platform that there is, and there's ones I've never heard of, like PodNet, Pod This, and of course there's Spotify, and there's Apple Podcasts, and they do it does all of them. So then if you want to get monetized, which is where, like, let's say Favon Busters wants to advertise in the local area and they want to hit podcasts, they'll look, they'll contact Bus Route, and they'll say, Okay, who's in the this area, Shelby Township area, whatever, that is a podcast that talks business, that whatever. And then they'll say, Oh, we have one right here that has the average of 23 minutes that they have a thousand downloads in the last 20 days, and they I forgot there's a third one, third metric that you have to pass. I think get the three uploads, but you're gonna get that anyways after a thousand downloads. So that 23 minutes is what Buzz Sprout needs for them to make you a good viable source for a company to want to sponsor, not sponsored you, but pay for ads on your bid hole. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 27:21

So is is do you have to subscribe to you as the business, subscribe to Buzz Sprout, or what is that?

SPEAKER_00: 27:27

You don't have to. Buzzprout is free. The problem with the free membership of BuzzRout is you lose your uploads after I think it's 90 days, three months, it disappears. So I pay 12 bucks a month. Okay, and then they maintain it indefinitely as long as I pay membership. But really, I pay, I think it's like 24 or 28, something like that a month, because I also pay for their AI, which is eight dollars, that auto auto-levels my volume for me. So I'm gonna have to edit in Camtasia or Garage Van on my phone to make sure my intro and my mid-rolls and my body of the podcast, and then the conclusion are all on the same level of audio. I don't know if you ever listen to like like you know, like in commercials, even on TV forever. You listen to you're watching something, and all of a sudden the commercial comes on and it's like, whoa, you turn it down, it's sold out. Well, this program makes that advertisement or whoever in my mid-roll all even. So don't get your ears blown out when you're listening to a podcast. There's usually 90% of people listen to podcasts with earbuds on or something like that. And then the other 10 is in their car, some weird metric like that. So that pay for that, and then the other$6 that equals the$20-ish dollars I pay. Um, it auto generates the the body of my podcast to where it'll do the description for me all by itself and listening to it. It also creates the tags for me, and it also creates the the when you do a post on LinkedIn, it gives you three options to choose from to upload for you automatically. So you do no work. I when you pay the extra six or eight dollars, I do no work. I don't the only thing I edit is the beginning. If I I'm wrestling with my mic, and I'll maybe cut off the conclusion of it. And I have something pre-recorded that I had a guy do for me at I met him at Velocity Center. He did my intro role, the whistling intro. He we traded him for that. I gave him membership in the Metro trade, and he did that whistling intro for me, and now he gets exposure on my podcast because every episode he gets uh a blurb about his link, who he is, what he does. And he did a whistling intro for me, and it's in every episode that I have. And then um, that's it. So I do pretty much I do maybe four minutes of actual work when I do a podcast. Other than the 23 minutes of talking. Yeah. And that's an average 23 minutes, not 23 minutes per episode. Some of my episodes are like 15 minutes, some are 40 minutes, some are seven minutes. It's just whatever I want to talk about. I just do it. But the average has to be 23 minutes for you to be a good podcast to market for puck. And I'm not getting paid yet. Thousand downloads in 90 days is no joke. That's a lot of downloads. I know people have been podcasting that aren't even close. So yeah. Anything else? Anyone? No. It's good information.

SPEAKER_01: 30:35

Thank you. Yeah, I learned a lot, like a whole new language.

SPEAKER_00: 30:38

Yeah, I know. It's kind of like the lines come down. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 30:42

Your buzz, whatever. I heard Buzz Sprout. Spell it.

SPEAKER_00: 30:45

Buzz a B U Z. A sprout.

SPEAKER_01: 30:48

S-P-R-O-U-T.

SPEAKER_00: 30:49

S P R U T.

SPEAKER_01: 30:50

Because I heard Buzz Brow and a few other things. So it's a frou and yours or buzz sprout.

SPEAKER_00: 30:55

Yeah, buzzsprout.com is the uh is the podcasting platform. And you can use there's I think half buzz out there. But I I forgot how I came across BuzzBrow. I think I was looking for it and I saw a YouTube video on it, and they'd be easy to use. And I was like, okay, you know, but I don't know anybody with podcasts, you know. And I was, like I said, a YouTuber, and I went through probably three or four channels on YouTubing, and then I kind of gave up on that. I did a gardening one. I did one where I was doing stuff in the Detroit, I was host doing the D. And then I did another one, I forgot, like something homesteading or something. Yeah, I was all over the place, you know. So, but this is way easier. I have to actually stuff with podcasts.

SPEAKER_01: 31:36

So once you find your niche, you just go with it.

SPEAKER_00: 31:38

Yeah, yeah, you gotta try it. You might not even do your first podcast, your first 10, it might not even be what you what you love and want to talk about. You gotta find something you can talk about indefinitely. You know, that's the kind of scary part. But the problem is you can't brainstorm and think about it, you gotta just start recording and figure it out as you go along. That's the only way to do it. So if you're like the embroidery, like you were talking about, you can talk about embroidery, but talk about like maybe the machines and this and that, you know, and then what you can make with it. So you gotta I do three or four different things to think about and stuff like that. So thank you. Oh, I love you. Yeah, well, because I got that banana sponsors left and all they compare.

SPEAKER_01: 32:23

Thank you. That one that was very interesting.

SPEAKER_00: 32:26

Um definitely connected me on LinkedIn or Linable. If you have more questions, I'd love to help you out. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. That's the charging base, and that slips right in that.