Timbre to Ashes Podcast

Cat Stories from the Perspective of First-Time Cat Parents

Luna Timbre & Mark Ashford

Welcome to the first ever Timbre to Ashes Podcast episode! Today, we're telling stories about our cats and what it's been like living together for the past few years as first-time cat parents!

Luna's Personal Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LunaTimbre
Luna's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/lunatimbre

Mark's Personal Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Mark_Ashford
Mark's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/markashford

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Intro/Outro Music: Early Morning Rain from Epidemic Sound

Areas to improve (this is Luna writing this, lol):
-You made a list of points, so use them (listeners will never know what Daxter looks like now 😔)
-Talk INTO and CLOSE TO your mic
-Use your soundproofing for... soundproofing, not deconstructed décor

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[PODCAST THEME & FIRE CRACKLING][PODCAST THEME & FIRE CRACKLING][AIR WHOOSHING X3][PODCAST THEME & FIRE CRACKLING] Hello, and welcome to the Timbre to Ashes Podcast. You may not know us- Actually, I don't- Of course you wouldn't. It's our first podcast. You know not who we are besides the fact that our names are... Luna Timbre and Mark Ashford. And that's only if you've read the channel banner or the description. But, today we're gonna be talking about our beautiful kitties, starting with this one right here. His name is Sly and I have some notes here on my computer for us to go over because we are very... forgetful. Yes, if we don't have notes we will lose track of ourselves very easily. We tangent. And I also have their vet records, actually. Sly-bub here, he is the oldest. We've had him the longest. And his birth date is February 25th, 2020, and his"Gotcha Date" was November 6th of the same year. And, when we got him, for the first two months he lived at my brother's house.[DEEP INHALE] And the reason that we got him- Like, he's my first cat ever. Um, I was what you would consider a "dog person" for years up to this point. There is this nice lady/wonderful woman who works at my workplace and she's, like, a coworker and friend. Uh, who I met there, and she takes care of a feral colony of cats. But, one of our other coworkers complained about the cats, and so... our workplace was gonna get rid of them if she didn't. And that- Of course that sounds kind of scary. Like, "What are they gonna do?" So, uh, she was rushing to try to get the cats homes. And I would see this little guy around quite a bit. We named him "Pretty Boi." At the time, because that was, like, our naming convention. We had "BIG BOI," "Big Mama," "Pretty Boi." But we ended up catching most of the cats except for four who were very good at avoiding traps/wouldn't go into carriers. They were very distrustful of that. But, considering there were twenty plus cats before then, I think it was a good effort. And Sly was one of the last ones to be caught because we really had to trick him. But, I always knew if I was gonna get a cat, I would get him, because... He was so shy, like, a- kittens could beat him up. He would- He would shy away from them. I saw a kitten slap him and he was like, "Okay, okay, I guess you can have the food." I love how he's just purring while I pet him this whole time. But it took a lot of time to get to know him, and, you know, I-  For people who are just listening, I forgot to describe what he looks like. He is a tabby cat and I would- I think you would call him a tabby with black stripes. He's, like, got gray. Would you call that gray and brown? Yeah, I'd call it gray and brown. With, like, black stripes, but he's got little white feet. And it makes him so cute! He's got a little white chest and tummy with little white feet. And these, like, really, really cool green eyes. Um, actually, what's funny is, that same friend of mine, she had him neutered via the TNR program. Which means "Trap-Neuter-Release" if you've never heard of it. Oh, what was it? Like, when I first saw him I noticed that he had a clipped ear. And I was like, "Wow, that seems pretty thug for a cat like him." Because he just- he doesn't seem like he gets in fights very much. At least, not ones that he cares to be in for very long. He tries to get away pretty quick. Yeah, she'd taken him to get neutered when he was around 6 months old. And they just, like, apparently, clip the left ear, so that when they're released back into their colony, you can tell that they were one of the ones who were already neutered and you don't have to trap 'em again. So, I didn't have to neuter him, but I was given the paperwork by my friend from when it happened. And she, like, does this all the time, so she just gives them little filler names. And this was before I actually started talking to her and we started callin' him Pretty Boi. She named him "Bootsie" on the paperwork. And I just love to call him Bootsie. It's such a cute little name. Um, oh, yeah- [MARK COUGHS] Oh, you okay?  Yeah, he was- You've been sick for, like, the last week and you're still kinda getting over it. Yup. I was a- I was a sicky. That's what happens when your coworkers go to work sick... They get you sick. We do understand that people sometimes don't have a choice, but when you have that time you know you have-[L] Yeah, PTO. Yeah.[M] to take days off. When you have that PTO, please take it.[L] Yeah, so you don't-[M] Take care of yourself and don't risk other people. Yeah, at least we don't- Like, Covid is still a thing, but at least it's not... Yup....as big of an issue as it was?[M] Yeah, it's- it's not as- It-[L] I mean, it doesn't seem so, anyway. I'm going back to my baby. Uh, the first month that he was- he was at my brother's house and everything, and he fuckin' hated me.

Like, I tried everything:

playing with him with toys and stuff- We actually had a cat camera and we could see he was eating, 'cause that was our concern- he didn't seem like he was eating, at first. But, we could see that he was eatin', and playin', and movin' around, but the moment we would come up, he would run into the closet. He, um......apparently, likes being brushed. And so- He likes it to this day, but......that was the first time I ever heard him purr- was when I brushed him. Like, now he purrs all the time and he's a lap cat, but even that took a lot of effort. It was about... So, I got him in November, it wasn't until March of the next year that I tricked him into becoming a lap cat. I thought he'd enjoy it, because he seemed like a little, cuddly guy when I got to know him. What I did was I took some treats, and I'd be sitting in a recliner. Put it, like, I would show it to him, put it on my lap, he'd hop up, take the treat, immediately hop back off. He eventually was like, "Oh, wait. It's kinda comfy up here," and then stayed. And now, he's on my lap. He- He, uh, actually, um, is kinda mean if I don't let him on my lap.  He used to follow me around the house and meow at me to get lap time. And if I DARE go into an office and shut a door, he KNOWS that there's a chair like this in there. And he will Kung Fu the door down. First, he goes up to the door. Then, like, if you don't respond within TWO seconds of him meowing- If he doesn't hear you get up and he doesn't hear you call his name, he'll start slapping at the door.  And then, five seconds after that he- he tries to scale the whole thing. I don't know what he thinks he's gonna do. I guess he thinks if that's not gonna get your attention then nothing will, but it's funny how sassy he is. He's gotten more and more sassy as he's shown his personality. He still doesn't really like being picked up too much. Like, I had to pick him up to get him in here. Actually... Like, you had to hold him for a few minutes and he, like, put his little head in your armpit because... He doesn't like being held by you. He's still very iffy about you, Mark. I don't- I don't get it! He's known you for FOUR years and you've never done anything to hurt him. Well, okay...  There is this one incident that we refer to as the "motorcycle incident." And I can already tell you're, like, waiting- you're waiting to get that out.  Because it was within the first week we had him. Uh, we knew that we'd need to be able to pick him up to take him to the vet and stuff. He needed to get used to being handled. But, maybe, we pushed that a little bit too early, and I was too scared to try to pick him up, so Mark tried. So, how did that go?

I'm just gonna reiterate:

that was the stupidest thing we coulda done within the first week of having him. I mean, especially with how shy he is. Yes, he- he was so shy. He immediately hid the first time we got him into that room at your brother's. And, yeah, the moment I tried to pick him up, he was bolting, and then at one point, hissed.[L] Oh, yeah he tried to slap you. And he does-[M] He- he even swiped at me, yeah. Yeah, he does not do that; he is not a swiper. He- he never even hisses anymore. Like, even when we take him to the vet, he just, like, tolerates being handled, but he was mad. After a couple times of trying to pick him up, he ended up going up- Jumped on top of an air conditioner, and then took it one step further, and jumped all the way on top of an- a curtain rod. Yeah, and then, like, as you would try to reach out to be like,"Come here, bud. Come down." As you got close and reached your arms out every time, like- You could just see, like, the closer you got, the louder he'd get and he'd just do this,"rrrrreeeEEEEEEeeerrrrrr""rrrrreeeEEEEEEeeerrrrrr" kinda noise and we're like, "Oh, my God. It sounds like a motorcycle." He's still a wuv-bug. Oh, yeah. He's gettin' better around me. He's gotten nicer.[L] He still has his days and his moments.[M] Y-Yeah. Ugh... It comes in waves. Oh, yeah. Yeah, one thing- It was three and a half years into us having him that he spontaneously learned how to knead. Like, I don't know where that came from, but just one day while I was laying down, he, uh, came up onto my legs. And he- he was just sitting on them, uh, and when all at once he started shifting his weight from one front paw to the other. And it's the cutest thing I've ever seen. I recorded it that first time. He just started doing that and now, like, uh, he does it every night whenever we're in bed and we call them "Sly Blessings." Because, like, he chooses one of us to do it to and it's like,"Which one will it be tonight? Which one will get a blessing from Sly?" Sometimes we get a double blessing and we'll both get it.[M] Yeah, he's-[L] But, that's rare. But, he seems to- he actually gives them more to you. Like, for some reason he thinks you're, like, really comfy now. Okay. One of the funniest things that I was ever TOLD about Sly was back in the day, our- like, I was living with- well, we were living with my dad. And this is part of the reason that Sly lived at my brother's house, because my dad doesn't like cats. And he didn't want them in the house and stuff, but then he kind of, like, caved a bit. He was like, "Oh, you know what, you've had him for a while. He seems like a good cat. Like, you might as well bring it in the house." So, my dad always thought Sly was a "weird one" because he's just so shy and he only likes one person in his life and half-likes one other person. Yeah, Sly would avoid my dad like the plague. And so, one day... I- I was gone. I was, like, on a winery trip with my coworkers. And I called my dad when I was on the way home. My dad was- He will talk to me on the toilet. So, he was in the bathroom and he decided to put me on speaker phone. Love it. Love it. I really want to hear you going to the bathroom. But, apparently, Sly could hear my voice. And he came running to the bathroom like, "Oh, my God! She's here!" And my dad was like,"Oh, no. He came into the bathroom.""He musta heard your voice. He saw ME and then just ran the hell away." I mean, I feel so sorry for him. That's, like- Does that ever happen when we're on the phone? Does he- does he respond to that? I mean, he's such a good boy. He definitelyrecognizes voices because, uh, just a couple months ago, uh, one of my sisters was in town. Like, she lives a few- couple states away, but she was was in the area and stayed the night at our house and got to meet all our cats for the first time. And Sly does not do well when anyone else is in our house. All he did was hear her voice... Oh... Yeah, and he ran away under the bathroom sink. But the thing was, we have never had somebody stay the night at our house before this incident. And so, when morning came and it was, like, feeding time and stuff, And Sly, if he's stressed, he will not eat. So, you have to- Oh, my God. He's stuck on my- He's stuck on my leg and now he's going limp. His little claw is stuck in me. Can you get that? Yep, gimme one second. There you go. Got it. How the heck did you do that so fast? I know his- how his claws around just right. I've had to de-[L] De-hook[M] De-stu- De-stuck him from too many things in this house. De-stuck... Okay, so... We've never had anyone stay at our house, and so, he full-on seemed like he ASSUMED she was gone. Like, we've had it before where he'll kinda be iffy the next day eating if he's been stressed out. And... Like, we don't mean to stress him out with this stuff. It's just- it's just how he is. We, like, recently got him on some anxiety medication and it's made him ever the sassier one. Mm-hmm. But, he was eating his food. He was actually perfectly fine, was actin' like normal, wanted to be pet, was really happy, and excited, and stuff for his food. And then halfway through eating it, you had gone out to talk to my sister. And he was fine. You were talking first. He was still eating when he heard you talking. But the moment she started talking... He- he immediately stopped, looked up toward the ceiling, and was like, "Oh, my God." Like, "Has God forsaken me? What is happening? What is this? I thought she was gone!" And immediately bolted underneath the bathroom sink. I took his food, and I brought it to him under there, and tried to get him to eat some more. And he did, like, try. But, you guys were still talking and I couldn't just be like"Hey, shut up!" Like, I didn't want to, you know. But... He, uh, every time he heard her talk, he just looked up. Like, "Please let me find an escape. Please get me out of this." And it's just- It's sad, but it also feels a tiny bit dramatic. I mean... Sly, she's not gonna kill you. Like, he is the most expressive cat I've ever met. I mean, we have three cats. I've met- And my brother has three cats. Like, I KNOW cats. Even my brother says he's got such an expressive face.[M] Oh, yeah.[L] And he's so, like, smart with social interactions. It's weird. Mm-hmm. Do you want to talk about his quirks?[HEAVY SIGH] I mean, yeah, but some of them are a bit annoying. One of the most annoying things- I'm so- I'm- It's sad to say about him is he loves to roll in the litter. Outside of the litter box. Yeah, every time that they, like, get their little feetsies in it and it comes outside of the litter box, THAT litter. He just decides, "Hmm, this looks nice." *Rolls* *Rolls* And I think it's because he knows it's like a pseudo-deodorant for him. [M] Because it- Our litter we get has Odor Blasters™, to where it helps kill the bad smells. There was one time where we moved the litter box.  And he would roll around where the litter box was.[M] Yeah.[L] But there was no litter there. Like, what was that about? I don't get why he likes to do that, but I swear to GOD. Whenever I am in the bedroom, and he comes up to me, and I pet him, and he's just COATED in it. It pis- I'm like, "Sly, Goddamnit! You did this to me again!" But it's, like, I don't know why he does it. It's just funny. He really gets me when he... SHAKES it all off at once and it gets EVERYWHERE. I don't know. It's just- He's the only cat that does it of our cats. And it's just- It's not even that often that he does it. He might do it, like, every few weeks or something, but I don't know why. And then, like, what's- what's some other ones, Mark?[M] Well, you've technically kind of gone over it with the fact of he doesn't like to pick a fight. Nine times out of ten, he more of lets someone walk all over him. Yeah, what's funny is, like... He- With our other cats, when he gets into a fight... Es- When they were kittens, especially, he would like to pin them down and lick them. He didn't wanna, like, have an actually biting, slapping fight like they were tryin' to get out of him. And they'd get actually REALLY angry from the licking. But, yeah. Sly doesn't......like any of that. And he- If he can avoid the fight altogether, he'll try to. He'll still do the licking if the cat does PICK at him enough. He'll just grab 'em, try to throw 'em to the ground, and then just start lickin' their head. Oh, little bubbie. He's so good. He's bein' so good right now. Yes, he's being very good. But, he did teach ALL the other cats their bad habits.[WHY'D-YOU-HAVE-TO-REMIND-ME SIGH] I mean... He taught them how to chew cables to wake us up in the morning for food. We've created our own hell there because we have feeding times. We don't just......have the food sitting out all the time.

He woke me up at 4:

00 a.m. just yesterday because he'd, like, he'd start slappin' the window sill. And claw on the wall... And then he'd- he'd go up to my face. Look me right in the face, TRILL at me, and then, if that didn't work, he'd go slap something else. He jumped on a suitcase and started messing with the zipper, went right back up to my face, "She's not awake, yet." He kept testing to see if I was awake before he'd start running around like a maniac doing something else. That is- I think that's a- more of a symptom of his anxiety medication making him show his true self. But, normally he would do something one time. Like, he's never- He's not a cable chewer. But, he showed it one time to one of our other cats, and now they chew cables all the time. And he's like, "Mmm, good. I got a minion. You can do it for me." Okay. Are you ready... To go get the other cat? To bring, henceforth......the other cat. Okay. Okay, so we're gonna be getting cat number two. And the reason I was talking so much about this cat, I forgot to say: he is MY cat. The next cat is your cat. Yes. But, I will tell the story of how we got him. Yes, 'cause she was very involved for the first part of his life. Yeah, so get- get ze cat. Yeah, get the cat. Oh...[L] Oh, no.[M] Okay. Oh, shoot. Okay, everybody. And, you know, I just realized I've not been wearing my headphones this entire time. Can I hear? Here's our second boy, Axel! Oh, actually, wait. Here.

According to my vet documentation:

When he was just four and a half months old, he weighed 5.8125 pounds. And now, our contender, comin' in at a big, whopping... fourteen pounds. He's a big boy. Yeah, he's a good big boy.[M] One second, one second. I'll- I'll try to see if I can show him for scale into the camera. Oh, oh. He's a big boy. Oh, da- God. Yeah, right there.[L] [ANGELIC CHOIR NOISES][M] He's a big boy. I'm sorry, bud. Okay. You can chill. And for those who cannot see, he is a brown tabby. Just a solid brown tabby. And what- What color would you call his eyes? I mean, they're kind of, like, yellowy. They're, like, a hazel. Kinda hazel?[L] But, he's a good boy. Look at him. He's bein' so good.[M] He's such a good boy. You can say his- his name, "Gotcha Date," and birth date. So, his name is Axel. His "Gotcha Date" was August 28th of 2020. Well, his birth date. Yeah, that's when he was born.[L] He was born right around when you were.[M] And his "Gotcha Date" was DECEMBER 23rd of 2020. Yeah, we got him right before Christmas. And it was two days before it really snowed a lot so... This poor boy might not have survived had we not gotten him when we did. I mean, I think he would have......maybe survived? But...  it woulda been- it woulda been rough.[M] It would have been rough for him.[L] Yeah. Um, a- apparently, 'cause we posted on Facebook when we got him, there was a lady who was feedin' cats from his litter. And she was happy, like, he found a home and stuff, because he was just a stray. One of his siblings had actually passed away. And they were trying to get, uh, him and his little... cat family used to being around people and stuff. And so, I think that's what helped in, uh, the whole incident that happened when I got him. He- he got away from his family, somehow, and I think that's how he ended up in our neighborhood. But, I was doin' my normal thing of going from my house to my brother's house to go take care of Sly. And I had not gotten a couple hundred feet down the road... When all of a sudden, something crossed in the road in front of me. And we have such a huge population of bunny rabbits. I thought- I thought it was another flippin' bunny for a second. But, the shape and the run wasn't quite right, so... Uh, I stopped- What's funny, too, is I was driving a big, white van. So, I stopped. There was no one around. And opened my door, looked to my left... And he was was politely sitting on the side of the road, lookin' right at me. And I said..."Are you a cat?" And he immediately answered with, "Meh-ah-ow?" And then, came right up to me. And I was like, "Oh, okay, I guess."  I just picked him up, took him into the van with me... And I immediately called my friend from work who know- you know, knows all about cats and she gave me a......contact at- What are those people who, like- Uh, The Humane Society. Yeah. And then I called you. And we met at, like, a motel and... We did a little handoff. I gave him to you and we have that picture of when he was first in your hand. He was so tiny he fit in your hand. And, apparently, he was just four months old.  He was just the cutest little guy and you immediately said, "We're keepin' him." Because I didn't know what to do. I thought, like, maybe I could, like, put him somewhere or whatever, but... Yeah, like, 'cause we only had the one cat and we thought one cat was enough. But, then he became your baby. Yeah, little Axel stole my heart from day one. He's such a good boy. He has his days where he tests my patience, but he's such a good boy. Yeah, he's the cable chewer. He might try to chew your-[M] Hey! He's trying to. Hey.[L] Yeah, I think he is trying to chew your- your headphone cable. Yeah, he's just that way. But, there you go. What- What else do we know about him? Oh, let's see here... He- Oh, my God. He is EXTREMELY food-motivated. Oh, oh, food-motivated, you say? Immediately, his eyes...[M] Oh, God. He's tryin' to break out from my grasp.[L] Oh, no. He gonna do the wiggle.[L] Oh, no. Da wiggle.[M] Oh, God. Oh, God. Da wiggle. He got the death wiggle.[L] Oh, my God. He gonna do a death roll like he's a crocodile-[M] He gonna dea- Yes. OH MY GAH. It's okay, bud. You can eat it here. You can eat it. You can eat it. Okay. OW. O-okay, he's gone.[L] Well, he'll be back. He'll be back[M] Yeah, he'll be back. He'll want more. He'll want more. He just slapped it into his MOUTH. But... Okay, gosh. I didn't think it was gonna end like THAT. But... Okay, continue. He suffers from middle child syndrome, very badly. Oh, yeah. What's a good example?[L] Is he okay? Is he gonna come back?[M] He- He- He's walkin' back up. Come here, bud. Come here, bubba. Come on over here.[L] I'm gonna hide this. Oh, uh, I d- d- I don't got nothin'.[M] Hide that. Hide that. Hide that. Hide that.[M] Good boy. Okay.[L] He knows... So, one of our biggest things was when we got our third cat. Oh, my God. He immediately got SO much pissier about things happening.'Cause he was the baby. He was the baby for so long, but then he wasn't gettin' babied no more, so then... Oh... He got- He'd get mad over the littlest of things. Well, okay. You know how we'll just be talking about whatever-[M] Oh, yeah.[L] Yeah, that's the thing. Whenever we're in the kitchen or something, we'll just be talking and we're havin' a normal day... NOT thinking about our cats for TWO seconds, and then we- we turn around or just, like, go off to do something else, and we notice that Axel is sitting feet away from us, but not looking at us. He's looking the complete opposite direction OF us. But, he's just sitting there. He's got his head up, his ears are facing us, and it's just like he expects something. And this isn't a one- an isolated incident. He has done this multiple times when we're talking to each other. And... It's because he's waiting to see how long until we notice him. Because the moment we stop what we're doing and say, "Axel!" he whips around and meows and it's like, "Oh, hey!" He- He definitely suffers from that. He didn't start doing that until we got another cat.

Another big one is:

he likes to pick fights with the other cats. Like, he- he'll start a fight and you immediately hear, "REEER," "REEER!" It's, like- You're only hearing Axel the entire fight. The other cat's dead silent for most of it. Unless it's one with Sly. Which, Sly gets a little mouthy at times.[M] 'Cause he gets pissed.[L] Yeah, but- Yeah. Because it's not so much like a "play" fight as it is like a "fight" fight. He's like, "Get off of me!" Yeah, Sly wants nothin' to do with- I don't know. Like, Axel and Sly used to be pretty- pretty chummy, but over time they've- I don't know what ha- what changed that they're kinda meaner to each other now. So, sometimes we have to break up those kind of fights.[M] Oh, God. He- He- He- doesn't want to be here for much longer. [L] He's wantin' to burrow. Yeah, don't worry. Don't worry, Axel.[M] We- We won't have you for too much longer.[L] You're not gonna be the star of the show for too long. Wait, wait. Get him his blanket. Oh, yeah. His blanket. Yup, one second.[M] You want da blanket, buddy?[L] He's a kneady boy. You want da bwanket? Oh, shoot. Yup, okay. Yup. He immediately- Ow! My leg! Ow, my leg. He's also stabbin' me in the leg. He- He loves to knead and, like, you get anything that's soft... like this blanket. What would- What do you think this is made- made of? Uh, like, a polyester or... I d- I can't remember what the actual name of the material is. It's just that really nice... uh, like, soft cloth. But, yeah. He loves that. It's like a little pillowy cloud that he can just knead all day long. Look at- He just goes to town on it too. It's like that becomes the focus of his life right now. [L] He wanted to wiggle away but now it's like, "This. THIS."[M] I love that he was re- Yeah, he was ready to jump right off my lap, but now he's like, "Oh, I'm content now." So, we got him for a little bit longer. And he's also a very bad, uh, drug abuser.[L] The kitty-nip[M] He's a catnip addict. Oh, God. Okay. Yup, never mind. He's- He's startin'- He- He just hit his limit. He just ran out. He's like, "Okay, now I've had enough." Oh, I hope he didn't hear a crinkle of the bag in my...[L] ...in my little pocket.[M] Nah, he just wonderin' around. But, yeah. This guy- Oh, my God. He- He fiends for catnip. If you put some down and then you go to put the container down, he'll go after the container right after you're done.[M] And then he will go knock it down.[L] ...Slap it. What is- He do- He never gets anything from it. He just slaps it.[M] Yeah, he just slaps it around.[L] Like a butt. And he's also a big lover of cuddling and head kisses.[M] Which, someone pavloved him into doing.[L] Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's funny because, um... I just kiss all the cat's heads, but Axel's the only one who actually likes it. And he will throw his head back for kisses whenever I come toward him and he knows, like, I'm gonna kiss his head. And, sometimes, he about busts my teeth or my nose because he does it so hard. Mark... How many times have I woken up... Or how many times have I been asleep and he is in my arms?[M] Too ma-[L] There was- There was one day I woke up... And, uh, I was spooning a cat. And I didn't even know how that happened. But, you told me- Like, you weren't even in the bed anymore. I'm just by myself with him. And I'm like, "Did you just become Axel or something?" Apparently, when I'm asleep... You- What- What- What do I do? Axel will come up to your face, sniff your face, you'll kinda open your eyes for a split second, which means it's just sleep-walking you, if anything.[L] Yeah, I'm just registering what's happening.[M] And you just open up the cover immediately, let him in, and he'll just lay right down in your arms, and then you'll just wrap around him, and cover him up.  And then that's it. And he- Apparently, he does that and, like, leaves in the night, but there was just THAT one time where I woke up and he was still there. Yup.[L] But, he's done it multiple- Ow, oh.[M] Ow.[L] He's just gettin' a little bit overstimulated.[M] Yeah, he- he's about at his- the end of his run time. Yeah, he gets overstimulated pretty easily though (in comparison to our other cats). Like... Oh, wait, wait, Mark. That- That reminded me of something though with the sleeping. Didn't I ask you to come hug me when you came home once?[SIGH FROM THE PIT OF MARK'S SOUL] And then... in my sleep... You're such an ass. I don't know what it is. Apparently, I'm nice to cats, but I'm mean to you, specifically.  She- Luna just straight-up in the- When I went to go hug her, I was like, "Luna, I'm here to give you a hug." She's like, "No, it's too late!""It's too late! You don't get hug."

Did it sound like this? Did I go:

[HISS] Yes, you hissed at me first."It's too late! It's too late!"  Yes. Yes, just like that. Like, what the hell? I have no memory of that.[M] You're so mean.[L] But, I know I could, like, imitate it. You were so mean when you were asleep. I didn't mean it! Like, what the hell? Conscious-me is like, "Please hug me." But, I feel like- I think there's something about me in my sleep. I think you're gonna wake me up and I get very defensive about it. And I also feel like all of your anger and rage just fuels out of you when you're asleep.[M] And I- I think it's-[L] Yeah, I think it's the same for you.[M] Yes.[L] It's just, "Now we just meanies." Okay, so what are his quirks? Uh, thi- this- this cat is a, uh, ghost whisperer.  He will just stare up at the ceiling and ma-ow. And then, sometimes you'll see him walk around the house just staring up at nothing.[L] But he is, like, a bug catcher so, sometimes, he is probably looking for bugs.[M] Oh... And, sometimes, he has seen a bug. Yes. Bubba, are you crazy? He- He a little carnivore. Well, yeah. He's a cay-at.[L] But...[M] And this guy's got a very bad issue with bleach. We cannot use cleaning products that have bleach if he is around, because he will just go rub up on it and try to lick the surface. Yeah, it's- it's...[L] DANGEROUS. But, yeah. We know how to manage that. But...[M] He- He's like a little crack addict. I just wiped a bit of the counter and then I saw him rubbing all up on it. And I looked it up. I'm like, "What- What's with these that would make him do that?" And, apparently, some cats... Um, oh shit. He heard the bag. They love the scent of bleach. Well, it's because it's like catnip to them? Or like other cat hormones that they like? It's a weird thing. Sometimes, it reminds them of cat piss and then they'll want to rub there to change the scent of the area. Oh.[M] He- He- want- Okay, I think we reached the end of our time with our- our boy.[L] He- He knows. He knows that this bag is here too 'cause it just ruffled again. Okay, wait.[L] Can I tell the one scary story about him?[M] Oh, okay. There was this time in the old trailer that we lived in. There- That- With- This trailer had a scary hallway that was like one of those little murder ones in a video game or horror movie. And...  I was walking down it, when all of a sudden, Axel appeared from the darkness and just sat down in front of me. And I'm like, "Hey, what is it bud?" And he did not respond. He just... Started slowly looking up toward the ceiling. And then, all at once, did a jump really high. Like... half the height of the flippin'... ceiling, or whatever. Half the height to the ceiling. And did a 180 at the SAME time and I screamed. Because I didn't expect him to jump that high and just... TOWARD me. Apparently, I think he just had the zoomies, but that scared the crap outta me. Ow.[L] Okay, okay. It's time for za- za next bubba.[M] Is- Is it- Za next kitty. Okay. Goodbye, Axel. Ugh-kay. Now, who's this little handsome man?

This is our handsome third boy:

Daxter. And he is probably gonna like being held the least. Yes, he's a little handful. Yeah, a LITTLE handful. Dis guy was born on April 22nd of 2023. And we got him on August 8th of 2023. So he was about the same age as Axel. This guy came from one of my old workplaces. He was such a cute little boy, 'cause he just wandered in on occasion when we were working out at our work site. Ow.[L] Okay, okay. We might need to return him.[M] Oh-[M] Oh, God. We might have to return him early. Oh, God. OW.[L] No-  He doesn't like being held for more than, like, a minute. He's not a lap kitty. Yeah, he's not a lap cat.[L] He's a very much, "I want to be running around-"[M] Well, I guess this- this leads into one of the things.'Cause he seemed so cute and so nice- all this stuff. I wanted him so badly. He even- When I...[L] Oh, here we go. Here we go.[M] stopped at Luna's workplace after I got off work.[M] I took a nap with him on my chest. Ow.[L] Oh, no... Wait. You gotta get him.[L] Just put him back real quick. We'll continue- Oh, no, bubba.[M] Yeah. I got him. Okay. Okay, I'm back. Okay. So, about the kitty fishing? Daxter was the nicest little boy when we first got him.'Cause when I went to go... wait for Luna to get off work 'cause I finished before she did. He took a nap with me in the car. Straight-up fell asleep on my chest. I laid the seat back 'cause I was tired as well from when I was at work. Mm-hmm. And we took a nap and... You want to explain the next part of what you saw? Oh, my gosh. So, I come out... and I'm gettin' into the passenger seat. I, like, peek in as I open the door. And I see them both, in unison, startle awake. And I was like, "What the heck?" Okay... Well-[M] I thought he was real rambunctious when I first met him so I made a... [L] Oh, no... uh, whole...[L] You made a statement to me?[M] statement to Luna saying that, And I was sooooo far in the right. It was unbelievable. He kicks both Sly and Axel's butt on the daily. And I said, like, "How is that a GOOD thing that you WANT to get a cat that beats everyone's butt? I thought you were joking. Daxter was not joking. Daxter said, "No cap."[M] "I'm 'bout to ruin these boys' careers."[L] "I'm 'bout to bust a cap." Yeah, yeah. I more of meant it to mess with Axel, because Axel picked fights too much after he got a little older... with Sly.[M] And then...[L] Yeah, he thought he was a big deal 'cause he's a big boy. Yeah, and then Daxter came around and completely just threw him under. And he- That is the reason why we hear "ReeeeEEEeeer. ReEEer," in the night.  It's be- But it's funny because it's... always within thirty seconds after we've gone to bed. For some reason, Axel gets it in him to start a fight right then. And he'll be layin' around. I've seen it happen sometimes. Like, if I trail behind a little bit, he just- All at once he's- it's like he's possessed. *Gets up.**Must attack now.*  Well, one of the big- very nice things about Daxter is he does- loves to rub everything. Oh, yeah... But, one of the weird things of it is that when he kneads-'Cause he's the first cat that we got that kneaded near on command. But, he suckles. And which, we asked the vet, like, "Will he grow outta this?" and they're like,"If he's doin' it now, he'll probably be like that lifelong." And, yeah.  They- They're not wrong. He still does it to this day. Yeah, he did it like a week ago. Yeah.[L] Just expect your shirt to get wet when you're with him.[M] Y- Yeah. Yeah, when we first got him. Like, the first days I was staying in the same room as him to make sure he had someone there as company- Oh, my God. I kept waking up getting stabbed to death because he'd start kneading and suckling me and I'd wake up covered. Yeah, and if you try to pull up a blanket or something to be like, "Please just knead the blanket instead of me,"[L] he yanks it down and starts kneading your neck, or whatever, instead.[M] He'll KNEAD it down. No, he YANKED it down for me! I'm not even kidding. He grabbed it and pulled it down and then was like,"No, you're gettin' it in the neck."

Typically, with me, it'll be the whole thing of:

the barrier is there and then, as he kneads, it goes down, down.[L] He's gentle with you, is what that is.[M] And then he'll- then he locks back on. The rubbing thing is the really cute thing. Yes. You know, you're just walkin' around and then you get blessed with a little rub. He is also the acrobat of the house, 'cause he climbs EVERYTHING. In about two seconds? Yes. He, like- He- He's made it all the way on top of our range above our kitchen. Oh, yeah. He was our... He was the first cat to figure out how to climb onto our fridge in our old trailer. And that's where we used to put stuff that we didn't want the cats to get.[SIGH OF MEALS PAST] It was so sad when I lost so many snacks to him.

Come home:

my snacks are all over the ground.[M] It was terrible.[L] We had to start putting stuff in, like, the[M] Yes. ...the child locks.[L] We need to get those, like, actual locking ones, but... yeah, we don't have that. But, he, um- It got to such a point where anytime a cupboard was open, one of the upper cupboards, I EXPECTED it to be him. And... one time, I came home. I saw the upper cupboard where you tended to put your snacks... next to the fridge. Which, he would get there... by jumping into the little hole where the microwave was, getting onto the fridge and then walking across the fridge to this cupboard. Like, there was no other way to get to it. I saw the cupboard open and I was like, "Okay, Daxter. Great." Like, I thought he probably had already ravaged it and left. But, little did I know, there was a cat already in there. And it WASN'T Daxter. I saw my precious, baby Sly... eating a box of cookies. He was gremlining over it and then he just turned around to look at me and was- he had such a guilty look on his face. But I never in a million years thought it would be Sly. That is the one and only time, to this day, that he has stolen... any of our food and it had to be a box of... St. Patty's Day cookies. What else do you gotta see-[L] What are his- Have we gotten to quirks yet?[M] Yeah, we did the quirks.  Oh, no. Oh, you did?[M] Yeah.[L] Oh, we didn't do the one where he BIT my FUCKING leg. I was, like, really sick in April last year. And I think there's a thing of, like, your- your cats can sense your stress. But I was walking- I was pacing back and forth between the kitchen and the living room of our old trailer. And I was on the phone with somebody talking about, like, how I was so stressed about stuff, and, like, going to the hospital, and this and that. All of a sudden, when I was walking from the kitchen to the living room, so, like, a whole twenty feet or so. I don't know. Uh, I suddenly hear, "MeAAAAAAAAaaaaAAAAaaaa." Like... He's never MEOWED that LONG or that LOUD for anything. And, eventually, I was just like, "What?" I look down, he looks up at me, and then bites me in the calf. And then runs away. And it's like, "WHAT the hell?" He has never done that before or since. And I was offended. He's- He's the one who scares me sometimes. He's unpredictable. Guys, you wouldn't believe how funny that was to hear after getting off work. Yeah, 'cause you weren't there. But... Whoa, you need to get somethin' for that? I've gotten all the things I can. It doesn't help. It just mitigates it for a little bit. Maybe you need some water. I- I- Yeah, I could get water. Okay. Ooookay, I've got my water bottle.[UNGODLY SLURPING] My God! Little bubba! What the hell is that? I- It's a water bottle. I don't know what you're talkin' 'bout.  Fuzzy... Very fluffy little water bottle. Gimme that water bottle right now! You gonna take a sip too? Okay, sure. I gave him a kiss instead. Okay, we were fibbing. We actually have FOUR cats. We were lying. This is actually a very recent addition. This little guy. Oh, no. I think he can- He smells it. He smells the treats in her coat. Wait. Here- Here, can you do something for me? What? Can you make my little baby- His name is Joel. Can you make my little baby be a little Joel joey in my little......in your coat? Yeah, my little- my little pouch? You got this, bubba. Oh, my God. He fits perfect in there. Oh, little bubba![M] And then we'll put- Oh, no. That- That won't fit on your head.[L] Oh, oh.[M] With your headphones on.[L] Oh, shit. Here. I wasn't even listening to this earlier. Oh! There you go. There you go. Now I got my little- my little Joel joey... in my little pouch. Aw, you a good baby. You can't really see it unless she stands up, but, yeah, he's in a little pouch on her tummy. Yeah, now I got my lovely hoodie with my kitty ears.  Well, his "Gotcha Date" is December 4th of 2024. And his birth date is early October of 2024, so he is actually- He's sniffing and it sounds like a little piggy oink. He is actually just about three months old. And he's now trying to eat my-[L] I mean, isn't that why this thing has pom poms, so they can try to attack it?[M] Yeah, 'cause technically it should-[M] Yeah, it's technically for the cat to play with.[L] Yeah it's for a little kitty. My God, he's yankin' me down. And he also might try to choke you to death with that thing. It's okay, bubbie. I accept my fate.[L] For you.[M] For adorableness. Oh, shoot. He gettin' away! Death by adorableness.[L] Okay, so this is my bubbie number two since you've had TWO bubbies.[M] [ANGELIC CHOIR NOISES] Mm-hmm. You upset the balance. We need to have balanced bubbies again. One thing that I am happy for is modern medicine.[JOEL FEARSOMELY CRIES][L] Oh, no. Little baby![M] Oh... Oh, it's okay, little man. You can- You can let him go free. Go free, bubba![M] Go, bubba. Go. Go out of the room.[L] Just- Just please don't chew on any cables. He kinda does that too, but he's a wittle kitten baby. Yeah, he's going out. Okay.[M] He- He- He knows what he wants.[L] He did that so politely. He just walked right out. He, um, was taken in by my lovely friend, who... noticed that... Like, first of all, he had a younger- Well, I'm not sure. They were from the same litter, but he was twice the size of this sibling.  Who ended up just passing away and it seemed like it might have been a case of fading kitten syndrome. Uh, these are... cats that are a part of the feral cat colony around my workplace. Uh, that has now had a resurgence since... turns out they don't care about the cats anymore. They're not gonna get rid of 'em. My friend takes care of 'em. Still tries to trap 'em and neuter 'em and stuff. But, she noticed, uh, that he also was having problems. Part of his back right foot was missing. And so, she took him in to a vet and they did an amputation, so he is a "tripod" kitty. And he's, like, a really, really cute, adorable bubbie. He, uh, doesn't let it- let him get him down at all. You wouldn't expect him to have three legs if you would- if you know him how he is right now. Yeah, 'cause he's still fast as heck.[M] There he is.[L] Oh, shoot. He just sped- Oh, my God. He just snuck past- He just snuck past our- our office. Dang, I literally only saw his bottom half. His butt, and that was it.[L] I can hear him. I can hear him go- Oh, he's comin' back. He's comin' back![M] Yup. Oh... Come here, bud.[L] No, please don't- please don't mess with that.[M] No. No, please don't mess with that. Please don't mess with that, bud. Please. Please don't mess with that. You'll knock the whole camera down.[L] Oh, he's licking it! ...Is he purring?[M] Oh, no. Oh, no. Yes, I think he is.[L] He's so excited. [M] Come here, bud. And she had him while he recovered-[L] Oh, no. No! Get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him! Oh, no![M] Hey, d- d- Hey, little one! Oh, no...[M] No, keep- just keep talkin'. I'll- I'll...[L] Yeah, okay. So... Uh, we, um... She took care of him while he was recovering from his, uh- Did he run away? Yeah... Okay... He didn't want none. He- He ended up getting, uh, an infection on his, uh, surgery site. But it was okay. Like, he got antibiotics. He recovered from that. Oh. He still had some, uh... He- He keeps wandering up. The little turd. What di- What do they call those stitches- Oh, dissolvable, right? Yeah, dissolvable sutures. So, he had those when we ended up adopting him. And we had no idea he was only two months old. I mean, he seemed pretty tiny, but... You got him. What? He right dere. Well, what do you want me to do?  Try to- Try to gra- Try to grab him. I'm not good at doin' the scruff grab. It makes me feel bad.[M] Hey, don't go behind the green screen! Please! Goddammit, he's goin' behind the green screen. Oh, NO. We're never gonna see him again. Little man! He's gone forever. He just went behind our green screen. RIP in peace. What is he doing? He poked his head out for a split second.[L] Oh, no. Can he fit? Can he, like, get around it?[M] He can fit. He can fit. Oh. Okay. You're gonna grab him?[M] Ow, fuck.[L] You gotta cat-nab him.[L] Did you just hit your head on the light?[M] Yes, I hit my head off the damn bulb.[L] We got 'im![M] Okay, I got 'im. We gaht 'im! We GAH 'IM. You gonna show his little- his little fuzzy. He got a little fuzzy- fuzzy leg.[M] Right there... is where his leg should be.[L] He got a little nubbin. I don't think he wants you to mess with his nubbin. Or cough on him.[L] What are you doin'?! Are you doin' a full examination? Let him down![M] Oh, I gotta... Okay, he's good.[L] Jesus...[M] I- I thought he smelled a little funky.[M] I thought he might have done- done a number two.[L] ...done a doo-doo? And then not cleaned himself. I'm sorry. Okay. Well, stop man-handlin' him.  [M] Good boy.[L] Aw... Even he's burrowin' his little head. Was he takin' a nap when you picked him up? Uh, well, he ran straight at me as soon as he realized I came in the room. [L] He's just gonna charge you.[M] I was like, "Joel? Joel?" and he ca- he charged me. Oh, man. He's never responded to his name yet. Oh, yeah. But they're all named after video game characters. Yes. Let us know if you know which ones. Pay attention to little bubba.[M] You want down? Okay, go.[L] Yes.[M] Go. Go. Go, go, go. Go out dere. Go out dere. Yes, go out dere.[L] You're gonna set him down and then he's gonna go crazy again. No, don't come back. Go out dere.[INCREDULOUS GASP]

You don't want him to come back? :

([M] Oh, no. He's goin'- He's goin' straight back behind the green screen.[L] Oh, no. He's goin' to the green screen again. Now to get back to the sad, sad story of his health. Okay, so when we got him, he had recovered from his antibiotics and stuff. And he did have a messed-up eye that we noticed, and that, uh, my friend also noticed. She got medicine for his eye to try to help it. But... Wow, we just keep laughing through this. Is he okay? He's looping around the frickin'...[L] Wait, is he actually, like- He's already gone around once?[M] Yeah, yeah. He's went around it. Yeah, he's already gone around it once.[L] Oh, my God. He's- He's just such a good boy.[M] There he is again.[M] He goin' again. He goin'- He go- He goin' again. Oh, no, no. Nope. He changed his mind.[M] He changed his mind.[L] It's- It's not as fun the second time. But, when we got him. Um, his eye was still a little messed up, and so, we got more eye medication from our vet. And as it turned out, he had a fever. Um, and they believed he had an upper respiratory infection. Which, I don't know how got that or when he got that. Like, he'd been to that other vet. I don't know, like, what the timeframe would have been for him getting it. I don't know. So, we- we gave him antibiotics and eye medicine. He recovered from the sickness. We just took him to the vet a little over a week ago. But, when they checked his fever, he was fine there, but they got a little bit distracted... when they were, uh, doing that 'cause they gotta put it up his butt. And, uh, after they did that. They noticed, like, they- they told me, "Has he been-" They asked me, "Has he been neutered already?" And I was like, "No." I mean, he's so young. We only do that at six months. Uh, and my friend would have never done that as young as he was. But... Oh, no. As it turns out, he doesn't have... balls. They might be inside him. He does have a wee-wee, but he does not have the other part. And they might have to do something similar to a spay... to ensure that he is, uh... okay and doesn't get, like, cancers or anything. And also, as for his eye, can you, like, show it a little bit? It's his right eye. Something happened to it. We're not sure if it got, like, injured or something. He wants to go. He wants to explore, but... with his eye, um... some of what's up with it is it has scar tissue. And so his eye might just- it will probably always look like that. But, he is a- Oh, yeah. We haven't described, other than that, what he looks like. He's a tabby. And he is our only cat that has long hair. Um, his tail is about as long as him, like, he almost seems Maine Coon-ish. But, our vet doesn't believe he's, uh, actually a Maine Coon or anything. Um... But, he's got nice little ear tufts."Ear furnishings," as I've heard that they are called. Which is that fluffy, inner-ear stuff. But what would you say his coloring is?[L] Like, he's a tabby. But, is it, like, gray... with black stripes?[M] He's got- He's a gray with black stripes. Yeah. Black's the accent on him.[L] Go on, bubba. Explore![M] Go. Go. Please don't.[M] Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey![L] He gonna do it to 'em. Don't you mess with that stand- Ah, d- d- d- d- Not da cable![M] Not da cable! Oh, my God. Ya yuts! Ay![L] He- He, uh, is very food-motivated, just like... Daxter and Axel. And in the mornings, Mark is kind enough to make cereal for me, or, I guess, you know, put cereal in a bowl with milk. Did you put away the baby? We need quiet time with no craziness right now. Craziness later.[M] Yes, craziness later.[M] Oh, gee- Ooh-ah. Hoo-hah.[M] Hoo-hah hah.[M] Ow. Shark. Bait.[M] Ooh-ah aah. No, you're Cat Bait. Oh, my God. My goal is to make you cough yourself to the death, Cat Bait. Not- You're gonna get there one o' these days. So... I was just talkin' about how when you... get me cereal in the morning and when you're pouring the cereal out of the box, Daxter, who loves to jump on the counters and stuff, sometimes he'll sneak up on you or whatever. And then, with his rubbing tendency, he'll just rub into the box. And knock some of the cereal away from the bowl and onto the ground, because he wants to eat it. And it's just, like, Kix. It's that corn cereal stuff, or whatever. He tries to eat a couple of 'em and I saw, um, the other day where that had happened. And Joel had never seen tho- that cereal before. He just was- He walked right up... to Daxter while Daxter was eating some kernels. And was like, "Oh, my gosh. What are you eating?" He looks so polite walking up to him... And then he just slapped Daxter in the face to get the food out of his mouth. And he did! A kernel flew out of his mouth. Daxter had his mouth agape, like he was surprised. He didn't even know what to do. And Joel started EATING the kernel that was just in Daxter's mouth. And then, Daxter just gave up and ate a different kernel. And it's like, "What the hell?" He's, like, so cute and polite but he can be a little hellion about food. Oh, my God... Yeah, and he's a growin' boy. He needs a lot of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you wanted to talk about him being the ruler of tunnels? We have a couple of the little cat tunnels that they can run through. So on and so forth. Oh, my God. If little one sees anyone else other than him running through it, he will go BULLY them. And he is not kind about it. He will just go run at them and try to bat at them for it. What's funny is we got this huge tunnel that's human-sized for a tent that I used to have when I was little. My brother and I, uh, set it up. And the moment it touched the floor, we're like, "Okay, Joel. Where are you?" We wanted to show it to 'im. He was already in it. He- He, like, snuck past us and ran into the thing when we weren't paying attention.

Like, my brother did also- 'Cause we have three tunnels:

We had our original tunnel, which sucked. It was a tiny, crap one that collapses in on itself all the time. We got a better one for Axel's birthday last year.  And then we got a new, fluffy one for the commemoration of getting Joel. And... my brother combined all three of them and little bubba loves to run... from one end to the other of 'em.  But, he, like, tears it apart so fast. You gotta keep reassembling it. But, he can see it when you're reassembling it and he'll start running through it before you're even done and knock it apart again. It's really cute.  'Cause, was- wasn't I telling you, um, yeah I was telling you about when he was with my brother and I. And how we saw him, like, running around and it looked like he was Tokyo drifting. That- That cat's the ultimate drifter. That- That boy, he- he can hook corners like a mad man. We have hardwood floors, so it's his way of traversing. And... He also, like, will have his tail sticking straight out to the right side, like where his leg is missing, to kinda keep his balance. And, you know, I think it's also nice that we, like, have had these other cats for years. And it's now, like, a perfect time for us to have a cat like Joel. And we can take care of him properly. Yeah. But, part of that includes playing the Tokyo Drift theme song whenever he's running around the house. It's perfect. Actually, how many times have we walked out of a bedroom or an office and found him on top of a tower? Plenty of times now. He's been on top of all three of the towers we have. We got a new tower, a third one, um, that has ramps.  And we actually got steps for our other two towers, so he can get up them more easily. But, he doesn't even need them. Like, he just- He uses his front legs. He's, like got- He's super buff in his front legs and he can just climb right up.

But let me put this into perspective:

the other towers only go up probably about two thirds of our window. Which isn't even the top, like, near the top of our- close to our ceilings.[L] Like you say, like, yeah, two thirds...[M] But the- the new tower about reaches the ceiling On his own. No assistance. Yeah, I remember I walked up to him and I was like, "Now, who's this?" I was takin' pictures and he just, like, whipped around and looked at me. He was busy lickin' himself. What else do we have here... Oh, yeah. The fact that he beats up everybody. Yes. He- He'll square up on any other cat and no matter what he will pick a fight. Even Axel, who's the big chungus of the house, he- little man will just still pick a fight with him, even if he knows it's losing battle, 'cause Axel will just put ALL his weight on him. Yeah, like, what's funny- because it's like watching a lion fight a cub. He puts his little pawsies on him to hold him down and then just goes, "Rahng, rahng, rahng," like little fake bites on his tummy. He's not actually hurting him, or anything. I think it's really cute. I wish he could be that gentle with Sly. It is also shocking how thick as thieves he and Daxter got after being together for a short while.'Cause, at first we thought they were gonna be mortal enemies, 'cause they-  [L] Yeah, he hissed at 'im.[M] hated- like, Daxter hated him from day one. Yeah, 'cause now he's not the baby. But now, they're, like, thick as thieves. We found them cuddling on a little hammock together. Yes, it was cuter than hell. And they tend to sleep together; they cuddle together on the bed too. So, I'm happy about that, but there's definitely moments where Joel will just annoy the absolute shit out of Daxter 'cause he feels like it. He's got that little brother mentality. He's like, "I got to annoy him. He's my big brother!"[L] And he loves attacking tails, 'cause they're just swishy and, you know, like a- Yeah.[M] Yes. It's- It's a target.[L] Like, especially with Axel and Axel HATES it if you touch his tail.[M] OH, yeah. And when you were huggin' Axel, and then the little guy came up, and was just- he was just laying on his stomach. And every time the tail would swish by, he'd slap it. And you could just hear Axel go, "ReEer. ReEer." Like, he'd get mad. But, he also seemed like he was begging him to stop. Like, there was that one desperate meow when he turned to look at him. He was like, "Mah..." Like, "Please stop. I'm tryin' to cuddle my dad." And then, he eventually just got sick of it and just attacked. Yeah, like, he can only take it for so long and that was about TEN minutes, so that's ten minutes too freakin' long. Now, like, Daxter doesn't take any of it. Like, he used to play with him a little, but now he's-[L] he's busy. I don't know. Like, Daxter's gotten busy, as of late.[M] Yeah. And whenever little bubba tries to mess with him, Daxter will give him one slap. And little bubba's like, "Okay, I'm goin' the other way now. I'm not messin' with you." But he- he fights Axel, but he doesn't wannna fight little man right now. He- He's just- He's got- He got better things to do at the moment. But, he'll probably get around to doin' it again. Him and Sly typically stay away from each other.[M] They don't interact too much, unless- unless they're grooming each other.[L] What, Daxter and Sly? Oh, yeah. They like- They groom each other all the time. Yes, that's the biggest thing they'll do; they'll typically stay away from each other when it comes to fighting. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You just reminded me of this- I have it on video. I'm so happy I have it on video. When Sly and Daxter were on my lap together- And this is another one of those funny quirks about Sly, so... About him not wanting to get in fights. Daxter was trying to lick him to- to be friendly, you know? He's, like, tryin' to do a bonding moment and this was one of their first bonding moments. But, it was so awkward. And Sly was obviously uncomfortable, but Daxter wasn't taking the hint. And then, while he was trying, like, while Daxter was trying to lick Sly, he tripped and fell onto Sly... And you could see the rage in Sly's paw. He lifted it up and it was SHAKING. He wanted to slap Daxter, but he just couldn't bring himself to do it. And then, Daxter read the room a little, realized he was mad, and then just bit Sly in the neck, and they started fighting for half a second before Sly ran away. [L] They just have their ways of, you know, communicating.[M] Oh, yeah. They have- They all have their own relationships. The only one that worries me is Sly and Axel sometimes. I mean most of the time it's all in... good fun that they beat each other up a little. Sometimes, they're just gettin' a bit too aggressive now. Yeah. And I don't know why. Like, I don't know what happened with Axel and Sly. Because, uh, when we first got Axel, Sly was, like, very other-cat-relationship-deprived. He didn't wanna have- He DID NOT wanna have a relationship with people, but he wanted to make friends with other cats. He tried to make friends with my brother's cats, who ALL hated him. But, Axel was indifferent to him, and Sly took that as friendliness. And, um, they cuddled together, like, their first few nights but- so it's kinda sad to see, like, where they've gone to now. But, do we have- do we have any other stories? Is there any other anecdotes that you can remember now? At the moment, I feel like we've covered all four boys pretty good.[M] Even even though we lied. Even though we lied to you about there not being a fourth one.

Yeah, that's a good way to start off:

bein' big lie-yahs. That's whatchu know about us. Are you ready?  Yeah, let's... To- To get outta here? Let's wrap this up. Okay, okay. So, yes, I have this perfectly laid outro right here. How about you say it? Okay. We hope to see you again next time when we return from the ashes of today to begin anew tomorrow. Bye.

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