Hello friends, and a very warm welcome to Transforming Stress with Dr. Ash. Are you ready to turn stress into your comfort? For over 30 years now, Dr. Ash has worked and gained education across three continents India, United Kingdom, and the United States in healthcare. He's witnessed firsthand how stress can impact our health and cause our happiness. But here's the exciting part. He's here to help you transform your stress into a powerful tool for growth and resilience. Each week, he'll share practical tools and life-changing insights from his books, including The Boiling Frog, to help you manage your stress, find balance, and live a life of purpose. Please join us every Friday at 5 p.m. and let's start turning stress into strength together. Now let's dive into today's episode.
SPEAKER_02Hi, welcome to the Transforming Stress with Dr. Ash podcast. And today we have got a very eminent guest with us, Dr. Sangeeta Sahi.
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SPEAKER_02Sangeeta Sahi is not only just a medical doctor, but she's a researcher. She has done a great amount of work into how consciousness, leadership, and spirituality all come together. And I'm really excited to hear more about from Dr. Sandita about the work she has done in the conscious cancer program. And how our mind, emotions, our spirituality. The imbalances of all these different aspects of us lead to the genesis of disease. So first of all, welcome to the Transforming Stress with Dr. Ash podcast, Dr. Sangeeta. And I would love to know more about yourself from you.
SPEAKER_01Thank you so much, Dr. Ash, for inviting me today. And also thank you to your audience, your community, for taking time and giving their attention and presence here today. So it's a pleasure. Thank you. I'd like to start by telling you a little bit about my background and my story.
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SPEAKER_01And what really motivated my kind of path, I guess, because it is a little bit different from just a sort of a normal sort of medical. Conventional, conventional path. Thank you, yes. So basically, I come from four generations of medical doctors, and I was very motivated by the theme of understanding the origin of disease rather than just a symptomatic relief of it. I don't know why, but I found that very, very interesting. And through that particular theme, I was then kind of led and if you like, inspired to look into different body systems. And what I realized from looking not just at the biochemical system of our body, which is primarily what medicine focuses on, biochemistry, anatomy, physiology, but also the other parts, the emotional parts, the thoughts, the mental levels. And through that, with the mental levels, I ended up doing a lot of deep diving into the different levels of mind, of the different levels of the brain, and how it's constructed in a way, and how it functions with consciousness. So, and when I when I started working on that, I was actually working from a very technological perspective because at that time I was working with quantum physicists in the States and with biophysicists in the UK. I grew up in London, and what I what we began to see, and we were using real-time technology. It was not just, you know, spirituality or esoterics or anything like that. It was not theoretical. It was real-time verifiable technology that we could look directly into the energy body of the human being so we could see what is the energy system of the chakras in in Ayurvedic medicine and also the meridians from traditional Chinese medicine. And it went even a little bit deeper because we could look at we could see the cells and the frequencies that these cells were emitting. And we saw, I mean, I got to see that there's certain patterns that were emerging with certain behaviors or certain thoughts or certain emotional responses. So we I started mapping out some of those patterns, and I also did some wonderful experiments with my colleagues around behavior. As soon as we sort of um changed a certain behavior, like doing breath work or mantras or uh reading the namas or any of these sort of higher level consciousness behaviors, applications, modalities, we saw changes in those frequency patterns. And we could see some of the patterns becoming very, very congruent, aligned, whole, more sort of coherent. And that would change obviously alignments within the body and also make people feel much more balanced, more relaxed, happier, even. So we were mapping all of this, and this was uh it was very a very interesting phase of my life, and then I went on to study epigenetics and neutrogenomics and psychoneuroendocrinoimmunology, and I also then realized that all of these things led right back to probably some of my cultural origins, which was going back to Ayurveda, then really studying some Ayurveda and traditional Chinese medicine, and connecting up the dots, if you like, because Ayurveda doesn't just give you the energy anatomy, but it also shows the interface of how the energy anatomy connects up with the different levels of the physical body, the emotional body, how emotions and thoughts are transmitted through these different layers, using the elements and life, if you like, what life is made up of as the foundation and as the basis. So air, water, ether, earth, um all of these, and how what what the combinations and permutations of all these different elements, what sort of expressions, what sort of psyche expressions, behavior patterns, lifestyles, what is expressed through that way. So I realize that we are an incredibly complex system and an incredibly, Dr. Ash, and an incredibly sophisticated system of life. And most of it we are not aware of because we don't really have the either the technology or even the real scientific basis, I would say, in the way that this complex system operates. We don't yet have the scientific frameworks to validate or verify a lot of this because there's still too much separation between all these disciplines. So you've got the separation, no, no, no, this is esoteric, this is this, this is that, this is that, this is philosophy, this is linear science, Cartesian science. So we've got all of these different things going on, but the thing is that we are a living example of multidisciplinary coherence functioning in a constantly dynamic and evolving world and environment that we are a part of. So that's a little bit of my background. As far as the conscious cancer program is concerned, I'll tell you, Dr. Ash, it's quite straightforward. I it's not so I've never done anything in my life that was terribly strategic or planned. I've just kind of been inspired, I followed those inspirational directives and jumped into different rabbit holes and just explored. I would call myself more than anything else an explorer. And I would call myself an explorer of consciousness because everything is consciousness. So I started seeing a lot of patients who had cancer and immune system imbalances. And this was not, like I said, it wasn't strategic. I didn't look for them, they just started coming. And then I started, and they were from diverse cultural backgrounds, Dr. Ash, diverse languages, diverse lifestyles, different religious backgrounds, different countries, because I was working and living in many, many different countries in the world. And that I think is one of my great fortune fortunes and blessings, is that I was able to have firsthand direct experience of these different cultures and backgrounds of people and the diversity. And then what I started doing with all these different patients was started mapping out what was going on, and then I saw different patterns emerging. And I said, hey, this is very interesting because as much as we are very, very unique, there are also patterns that emerge within that uniqueness, which then we, if we address in a certain way, we can create balance within the body systems and the mind systems and the emotional systems. And through that work, I was able to then design a program called Conscious Cancer, which the foundation is consciousness, but consciousness of different levels. So food, lifestyle, even the relationship between the patient or the client and their doctor, their caregivers, emotional, addressing emotional relationships, mental thought patterns, as well as I would say patterns of reinvention and psyche and personality, because this is something that it's really very, very complex to be able to, and that's really one of the keys I found in my work is personality. So once I started working on that and looking at that and addressing that, and then finally the 13th step, it's a 13-step program. The 13th step is purpose. So once people have started engaging with life again, then their main thing is they want purpose, they want to find meaningfulness, value in the new life that they've been given to be able to then, you know, find fulfillment. Because that's a very, very important part of our lives as humans, as real human beings. This is very important. It's in in um Eastern philosophies, it's called Dharma. You know, finding your real dharma makes life just something else. It's it's not something that even we can, I think, put into words or verbalize. It's something else. You have a different experience of living life once you've really found your dharma. So that was sort of a little bit about the conscious cancer program. Um thank you.
SPEAKER_02Thank you very much, Dr. Sangeet. I think you have covered so many things and so many threads. Uh let me start one step at a time. Coming from an internal medicine background, where we like to see the evidence behind everything, and we call it evidence-based medicine. Now you mentioned that in your study of consciousness and energies and patterns, you are able to see now uh you are able to kind of have some kind of measurement. So, is there anything you can can you go more into details that how first of all you're going to measure the consciousness or uh vibrations and how that is affecting how are you able to qualitatively and quantitatively the difference of your intervention?
SPEAKER_01Doctor, that's a brilliant, that's a great question. I will tell you, one of the things that I realized that was a missing piece from the way we conventionally practice medicine and where the art of healing differentiates us from conventional medicine is within the domain of healing, we're actually looking at relationships. We're looking at how things or modalities or substances relate with one another. We're not looking at linear measurements because that's actually not what real life is. So even now we we just did, I just did a webinar actually, a big webinar yesterday, about microbes. And the research now being done on microbes is actually about how microbes change and are unpredictable based on the environment that they are in, and also based on, say, if they're in a human environment, the responses of the human being, the human being's emotions and the human being's thoughts, because we know that is being scientifically validated, that there is a direct biochemical axis between our thoughts and our biochemistry. So if we look at that as a model, let's say, we can then see that if an external microbe, organism, virus is introduced into a living system, how does that living system respond? So it's not about linear measurement, it's more about mapping. We're mapping change. We're not just using quantifiable, it's almost like AI. AI is accumulating data and then making forming patterns, complex algorithmic patterns, and then we are seeing those, we're able to see patterns through the responses of the AI. So it's even with technology now, Dr. Ash, it's not based on linearity anymore. It's not based on just, oh, two plus two equals four. So what I'm saying is that we were working on this a very, very long time ago. And yes, you can measure frequencies. Yes, you can measure vibrations. The technology is there. However, you cannot predict what will be outcomes. That is something that is lived because whether it's an animal or it's a human being, we are intelligent. We have many, many variables, and we respond to those different variables. So predicting outcomes is just, it's it's not possible anymore. And scientifically, we know that no doctor can predict how long a person is going to live. Somebody may have cancer, there may be previous cases and data saying, oh, this person's uh only has three years to live or five years to live, that's the prognosis, blah blah blah blah blah. But the reality is I've seen so many cases that have gone way beyond that prognosis based on response. Response to environment based on intention. That is something we don't measure and we can't measure. Intention, and intention is a very, very integral part of consciousness and how consciousness expresses itself. So we use say intention as your central pillar, and then so many atomic structures, molecular structures, start to coalesce around that intention. And therefore, uh this personality traits of clarity, of absolute willpower, determination, commitment, all of those things start to play a part to feed that intention, to make that intention stronger, so that the attractor for a new structuring of molecules and atomic structures, which is what we're made of. We're made of, our organs are made of atoms and molecules, so that they start to restructure in a different way. Even epigenetics has proven, sorry, I just want to end with this, epigenetics has proven that through intention you can even restructure the DNA. At the level of methylation, you know, DNA methylation. I do most of my work, actually, I'll tell you, is around longevity. That's the reality of it. So there are many facets, and I do use quite a bit of technology because I love technology. But it's more of a sort of it's a quantum technology rather than just that linearity of just the biochemistry, because that's not enough anymore, Dr. Ash. I'm sure you'll agree.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so what you just mentioned, Dr. Sangeita, that there are far too many variables, and modern medicine and the art of science, the art of practicing medicine and post-humanistic medicine, consciousness, or from what I understand, please correct me if you're wrong, that first of all, there are far too many variables, and it is a very dynamic environment that everything can be measured. But you also may mention that in like in the epigenetics, that the you could go even to the minutest details of how our thoughts are affecting the DNA. So that is also very, very that's also very profound. And you spoke about the power of intention, and I I assume that we spoke earlier about dharma and purpose, and dharma and purpose is about getting clear about that intention that what you are in this world to contribute, and that how it is such a such a powerful driver of keeping yourself in a very positive state as well.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Absolutely. I'll tell you if you I'm sure you're aware that in um in Hindu and Buddhist philosophy, the highest level. That a human being can reach is Satchit Ananda. Sat is truth or consciousness. Chip is actually satt is truth. Chip is consciousness. Ananda is bliss. Now, bliss is not the happiness that we know, that we are familiar with. It's not about being happy one moment and being sad the next. It's not an emotion. It's a state of being. Ananda is a constant state of being where your innermost core is stable. When that stability is there, then whatever happens in your surroundings, in your environment, in your life, you can manage it. Because in that, in that set, in that space of stability, you can understand that there is no such thing as perfection. There is an order which we are not aware of. But an order that is unpredictable, an order that is dynamic.
SPEAKER_02You call it uncertainty. Uncertainty.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. But with being in that stable state, everything is manageable, copable. You know, so that's really the core of healing. That's where, that's the interface between spirituality, consciousness, and real well-being. Where it's not defined as, oh, if you have X, this is your biological age, this is your chronicle age, this is your biochemistry. All of that is one aspect. And you've seen, I'm 100% sure, you've seen lots of people who are on their dharma, and you can't, you you look at them and they there's no way they look their age. They're full of energy, they're full of radiance, because they're blissed out. Because they're doing what they what they came here to do. They're on the path, and age has no meaning. Biological age has no meaning. Chronological age, sorry, has no meaning either. That's the highest state that we can reach. So, you know, we have, I think that in in medicine as well, we have, in longevity at least, we have this kind of misunderstood concept of longevity, of oh, we want to live forever. Actually, you do live forever if you are in that purpose of Dharma. So even as you very graciously and generously mentioned in my introduction, that leadership for me, I have a program because I also have a business degree, I have an MBA. And again, very like it was organic. I started, I I've been teaching since I left medical school. I've been teaching the interface of mind, body, spiritual medicine. And I had a lot of uh entrepreneurs, um, high net worth individuals, business leaders come to me for firstly for well-being, secondly for regeneration and sustainable practices, for themselves and for their organizations and businesses. And with them too, it's quality. Once they got into their real dharma, they were they were different people. You wouldn't recognize them. And that's you know, the program I have uh it's called a mentorship program for genuine leaders. Genuine means coming to that place of your dharma, your purpose, and you know it. It's not something that you know when you when you touch it, you know it. There's no doubt.
SPEAKER_02So it talks um, it means that you one starts with self-leadership, and the the first essence of the self-leadership is knowing your own dharma, your own deepest purpose, and then taking everything from there, because then we have got a very strong foundation. So, really very profound uh insights, and what I learned from your work that what you do when you look at stress management, so you in the boiling frog framework I have created, it is a it is a program, it is a framework where we look at our own selves, self-leadership, then we look at the environment, how we build up the resilience, and how we look at our innermost values, our purpose, and our dharma. What I saw and find find found your found your model very inspiring, that in when you look at disease, you are looking at where is the dysfunction spirit spirit at a level of spirit, mind, emotions. So it is a very truly very holistic and integrative work, and of course, every person who is born has a different um genetic makeup, and also as you say, that if you go to a forest, the hundred trees or a thousand trees, no tree is second, is alike the next one. Similarly, human beings they have got so many factors which are based on their genetic environment, their own dharma, it has to be truly truly articulated and truly contextualized to that individual in front of you. So that's one thing I want you to kind of go into a more detailed uh the detailed uh dive about how do you do the analysis on a you've got a 13-step program you where you must be doing this, and also the other thing I learned from your work that these days, you know, we have got this uh mobile phone, we talked about the environment. Environment is the first the relationship we have with our own cells. If we have the time for that, which we can have with meditation, then the relationship we have got with people in the environment, whether in the work environment or in the personal life, and now third thing is the relationship we are having with this machine. People you see all the time, they are affected, they are on the mobile phone or different kinds of uh gadgets. So, if you can answer those two questions for me, uh that how the future of humanity is collective rather than people are becoming more and more isolated, and uh you know that we are living in a living in an era where loneliness is becoming a pandemic, whereas there is so many venues of connection, and paradoxically, there is more and more isolation. So have I articulated my questions uh clearly enough, or uh you want me to say more?
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SPEAKER_01Ash, that's beautiful because it's very it's very topical and very important. Okay, so my um what I see, the way I see it, let's put it that way, is that we've kind of been conditioned in this weird sort of zombie land that we are separate. Number one. And the reality is very different. And it's not just about a philosophy, it's not just about a theory, it's not about a concept. This is about real life. You I'm I'm I use the underground, the tube all the time. And they're strangers, we're all strangers sitting next to each other. And there are times I absolutely know where I've smiled at a stranger and gotten a really bad look back. And then there are times that I've smiled at a stranger and they're so happy. They're like so thrilled that somebody's acknowledging their existence. As simple as that. And then just I mean, just helping somebody, not even helping, just being human and standing up for a pregnant lady or an senior citizen or whatever, and giving them your seat. These are very basic human behaviors. They are not something that is very sophisticated or something that has to be learnt, you know? So that connection, exection exists. It's us or whatever we've been conditioned, this, like I said, zombie land that we're in, where there's like, oh, you have to connect more, and these are all the ways to connect, and it's being human. Connection is human. It's natural. Yeah, but they're not even kindness, Dr. Ash. They're normal, they're natural behaviors. Animals, you know, they support each other instinctively. That's the word, sorry. They're instinctive behaviors. But we become so separated, whether it's because of all the different things. I'm not going to blame anything, but the reality is we become separated from actually our instinct. You know, like you mentioned earlier, I think, intuition. We become separated from our own system, our own instinctive system. We've become so more connected with artificial systems. And all we need to do is come back to our own instinctive system, natural system, and we automatically start behaving like that. And all it takes, you've I'm sure you've experienced this, I'm sure all your listeners have experienced this, all it takes is sometimes even saying hello to somebody, a stranger. And it's absolutely normal. When I travel in the tube in London, obviously, you know, it's within context, or whether I travel in the metro in India or in France or in New York. New York actually people are very friendly. Friendly in the sense that, you know, you can ask somebody a direction and nobody thinks that you're being offensive. And in India, you you there's no boundaries. You go on the metro and you'll ask one person what's the direction or the stop. Four people will answer you. So I think I think all we actually have to do, I'll tell you, it's simple. Just change habits. We've gotten into a habit, and I think this is also part of a sort of commercialization of another artificial system, Dr. Ash, if you want my personal opinion. It's not real, it's not true, it's not satya, it's made up. Because when you come to look at look at you, I've just started talking about being human, and you're smiling. It's so natural. It's not it doesn't have to be developed, we don't have to constantly, I mean, that's the other thing, is that we we're base, we grow up in certain cultures, and we believe that that is the framework of how one should behave in order to interact in an appropriate way. But what we don't realize is that every culture and microcultures have different rules, and one thing that may be offensive or considered as offensive in one microculture is completely normal in another one. And that's where this whole amazing complexity of diversity comes in, where we need to open our minds, and this is where consciousness really plays a big part, Dr. Ash. And I found this the most, I'll tell you. I became a real doctor after I started working with human beings on a human level. After I actually, and this was the biggest challenge for me, you know, like we all face challenges. Nobody's life has just been one easy ride. I don't believe that. So my biggest challenge was to overcome, because as doctors, there is this sort of pedestal that society, that even doctors themselves taking the Hippocratic oath and all of that, that we're put on a pedestal, and we believe in that pedestal. We truly, Doctor. Illusional, delusional. Well, it kind of is because when you come down to being human, you start to really understand humanity, and you start to understand the individual and their diseases and their way of life and their thought processes and their cultures, and that's where you can actually become a true healer and a true doctor, is when you understand what who is in front of you, and you can then actually give the right medicine, the right treatment. If I'm going to give uh a prescription of some amazing technology to somebody living in a village, that's absolutely redundant, and it's inappropriate, and it's useless for them.
SPEAKER_02It has to be really contextualized. I I truly completely believe in what you are saying, because even in modern medicine in hospitals, we know that there is the stress is huge, unmanaged stress, toxic stress. We also know statistically that the burnout in the United States and other countries uh is 50 to 60 percent. Definitely that would not have been the case if we would have doing things right. So it's important that we move in a direction that we embrace things in a and or and or we start doing things in a different different way because otherwise we are just going around in circles and we are going to have the same results. Do you have any suggestions for healthcare professionals? Because we are working in this environment and we know that there's a huge amount of burnout. I personally have created a framework where you can temper down the temperature and enjoy it like a jacuzzi. So please share some thoughts with first with the healthcare professionals of how, in spite of all the challenges, they can have a good ride.
SPEAKER_01Beautiful. And I I want to um I want to appreciate your work because I think it's very important what you're doing with how people address stress. But there is one thing I'd like to say about stress. For me, the way that I see stress is that stress is just an indicator of change. Because there's so much now scientific evidence where people get a promotion and they're stressed. This is something good in their lives, and people who get sick are stressed. So stress is an indicator of change in my world. And therefore, and because it's an indicator of change, it shouldn't be feared. Because once you fear something, you've already created a barrier. You've already created another wall that you will have to transcend and overcome. So look at stress, and you know, we know that. Biochemically, cortisol, adrenaline are biochemical indicators of stress levels. Now we know, Dr. Ash, that that's time between sleep and waking up in the morning, cortisol levels peak. So we're stressed when we go from one state of being into another state of being. Which means that stress is an indicator of change. And it's an indicate and it's constant change. A baby is so stressed when it's coming out or when it's being birthed, coming out of the canal. So it's normal, it's life. And I think that's another thing. If we first of all change our mindset towards it, secondly, I do believe, and I do believe in this, that's why I said I love technology, there's beautiful now testing available, and I think more and more is going to be available at much more affordable prices of things like epigenetic testing, where there is a way to track the effect of lifestyle changes, and that has a huge impact on our mind and acceptance. So a lot of people, yes, they follow instructions, exercise, don't eat this, eat that, you know, um, sleep, all of these different things. But when you see through testing that look, look at the change, look at the difference in your biochemistry levels, look at the difference in your DNA methylation levels, look at the difference in all these biomarkers, then there's a huge level of acceptance because you know that healthcare professionals have the worst lifestyle habits. It's a fact.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we the proof is in the pudding, we are seeing colleagues all around us with the levels of burnout. So, had it been the healthiest profession, uh then it would not have happened. That's why we have to take that initiative that we bring the wellness to the profession, and that's my dharma, that's my purpose. In the last 10 years, I have to say that I've been having my cake and eating it too, even in the most stressful environments, I'm able to manage quite well, and it is how you change, and you said earlier, how you change your mindset, and how you put so it's the beginning. That's the beginning, and how you put your focus where you need to put focus because in any environment there has to be support as well as challenges, that's the nature of life. You just gave the example, the child coming out of the canal, birth canal, and welcome to life is ready for the that's the that's the that's the nature of life. We have to embrace both support and challenges. But how we reframe those challenges and how we focus on what uh is supportive, what is going on well, if we can manage those two factors, how we can put our focus on what is grow going well, and how we can reframe what we perceive as challenges, we are going to be tempering down this temperature and still enjoying the jacuzzi. Now, I like your work much more deeper because it has it goes into the deeper, deeper, deeper layers of understanding our emotions, understanding our frequencies, understanding our dharma and purpose because. That really charges you if the four dimensions mental, emotional, spiritual, physical. If you are coming from a deep place of purpose, that charges all other quadrants as well. That's a very, very deep work you are uh you are doing.
SPEAKER_01See, Dr. Ash, that is the other part of it. Is like with healthcare professionals, I know there is a lot of it's it's overwhelming. I've been there, done that. I've I've I've you know I've conducted deliveries for 20 babies, one after another, after another after another. I understand all of that. However, I've also understood that there is something about slowing down. And it's not the way people think that it's all about meditation and Eastern, you know, AUM and all of that. No, there is a very interesting also validation of that in the quantum model, which is actually the pause. The pause between thoughts. And it's in that pause that all the solutions, that all the relaxation comes. Because we get overwhelmed, because we we we're trained as doctors and healthcare professionals to be problem solvers. That's actually it. We're trained to be problem solvers. And therefore, if we are less than, we go into our own stress and anxiety that we're not performing as we should and and with within that preconditioned model. So we can without having burnout, if we just paused. And obviously, breath work, mantras, all of that are very good ways. And by mantras, they don't just have to be, you know, from the Eastern system. They can also be Hail Marys, they can be prayers, affirmations, whatever it is that comes from that, whatever fits or feels resonates with the individual or the group's cultural background. It's all about, if you like, in in in quantum terms, it's about finding that pause. And then you allow that stress to dissolve. It dissolves naturally within that pause. You don't have to do anything, you don't have to, you know, take a pill or even do an exercise. It just dissolves automatically. That's one of the things, Dr. Ash, I'll tell you, that I I we should we should actually do some programs together with healthcare professionals because one of the things that I always show them is very tiny, simple, simple little, little tools that once they um adopt in their just normal day, it it just changes them and it changes the patient. That's also very important. It's about all of it together, like we said, we are not isolated, we are not disconnected. You relax, your patient relaxes. You relax, your patient will trust you more. Because you look as though you're more in control, you'll look as though you're more able to manage whatever situation they're in because they're already panicking. So again, we come down to the healer having self-mastery.
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SPEAKER_01And it's not difficult, it's just like we said, it's the initial part is to be receptive, receptive to just shifting mindset. You know, I want to I want to just share this little thing with you. Um I I really had the privilege of working with some truly incredible spiritual masters, and they're not celebrities, they were just very genuine, very grounded and real spiritual masters. One of them was Yogi Pajan, he was also a family friend, and he was the master of Kundalini yoga for the Western Hemisphere. And it was a very amazing technology because he took Kundalini Yoga from its foundations and put in technology into it. So he evolved it into a different system, and I was I ended up spending a lot of time with him in the States and directly learned Kundalini yoga from him and also tantric numerology, etc. And one of the things he would always say, which I've I've never forgotten, he would say it just takes two millimeters of a shift, just two millimeters, and the whole thing shifts.
SPEAKER_02Profound really profound, really profound, really profound.
SPEAKER_01And I want to share one last thing with your audience. In Ayurveda, especially, I've also studied um Riksha Ayurveda because I found I find the whole thing fascinating, especially with my foundation, um, Unified Human and Unified Brakrati Foundation. We do a lot of work with uh soil, food security, etc. So I wanted to study Vriksha Ayurveda with how is the health of the soil. Ayurveda for soil, for Vriksha. So in farming and agriculture, the soil is fed with exactly the same things almost that a human is fed, in terms of real food nourishment. And in that, if one thing is missing and you have fifteen other sixteen other things, even if calcium mineral is missing in the soil, those fifteen other things will make up for that one missing thing. And this is where community plays an essential part. This is where none of us are perfect, but together as a collective, we make up for all the gaps that are missing within us as individuals. And this is what I learned from nature directly. And it's beautiful. Look, stress, just knowing that piece of information, Dr. Ash, relieves the stress. That's how community and collective are very important. So when you actually live your dharma, you are being supported by the people that you are serving. You are no longer this, you know, this pedestal god-like doctor um archetype. You are actually serving. And the whole, that's why they say the whole universe comes together to support your your dharma. Because those that you're serving support your service.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Dr. Sangeita, we are coming at the end of top of our hour, and um I could keep going on. It's so fascinating, such an inspiring conversation. Uh so before we finish, I would like for you to share one message for the listeners who are in any kind of professions where they are facing stress which they are not able to manage. You know, we said that stress is normal, unmanaged stress, toxic stress, how we how they can position themselves or what they can do to manage that. And uh just just a few nuggets. I know you have already covered, you've already covered a lot of things which they might be finding useful, but uh, what is your message? Because the humanity is changing with the AI revolution. Now we know the amount of changes which are going to be coming or even going to be exponential. So would you like to say anything to that?
SPEAKER_01I would okay. So I will just say very few things. One is please use technology consciously because I've seen it in myself. Whatever I am sharing with others is because I've I've already experienced it. When I swipe Instagram before I go to bed, or I swipe my WhatsApp messages or whatever before I go to bed, I can't sleep. It takes me longer to relax and for my for my neurons to calm down and get into resting phase. Number one. Number two, just switch off. You need you need rest. Sleep is very important for rejuvenation, for replenishment, for recharging. One of the things I found over and over again, Dr. Ash, is that we are we we do not have enough magnesium. We are magnesium deficient. That's the word I was looking for. We're magnesium deficient. And when we top up a little bit with magnesium, our whole nervous system relaxes. That automatically puts us in a restful state. That's for your sleep. For your emotions, I would just say honestly, just be quiet. Simply be quiet, silence and focus on your breath. Just for 30 seconds, and you will see the difference.
SPEAKER_02I liked earlier what you said, Dr. Sangeeta, that even minor, minor changes, minor, minor shifts that I'm going to carry that one with me in the pace of my life. I'm going to try to look for those pauses and those moments of stillness. Now, finally, before we And one more thing.
SPEAKER_01Sorry. I'm sorry, I know I I can ramble, but this is very important. Smiling and laughing has been scientifically validated to increase serotonin levels and decrease cortisol levels immediately. And it doesn't cost exactly. And you smile, your muscles send signals to both of your hemispheres to come into balance immediately. It's autonomic. It's autonomous. But we these are tiny little things that are so powerful.
SPEAKER_02Well, a lot of my colleagues don't do that. And I I always I am all I always wonder about it that it doesn't cost much. So I think you hit the nail on the head there. Now, Dr. Sangita, if the listeners want to uh follow you and uh your amazing work you have done, what is the best way to reach you? Could you please share the share or uh we'll be happy to share your links here?
SPEAKER_01Okay, so should I put them in or should I just say that?
SPEAKER_02You can just tell me about and I'll get uh the team to put it, they put it here.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so my website is www.genuinehumanbeing.com. Very simple, genuinehumanbeing.com, or it also directs to drsangeasahi.com, but genuine human being is is fabulous. And then secondly, please also I would I would request your your uh communities to also look at Unified Human Foundation.
SPEAKER_02Unified Human Foundation.
SPEAKER_01It's our charity in the UK, nonprofit in the US, non-profit in Australia, and nonprofit in India.
SPEAKER_02Um and anybody who's struggling with cancer, uh they will find the resources there as well, or there's a different website for that?
SPEAKER_01No, they will find it on genuine human beings. On my professional website, the other one, unifiedhuman.org org. www.unifiedhuman.org is the charity website where it's an extension on a global level of the work that I'm doing professionally on an individual and organizational level.
SPEAKER_02So thank you so much. Thank you so much, Dr. Sangeeta, for joining me at Transforming Stress with Dr. Ash. I will be in Delhi the end of the next week, and hopefully we meet to see how we can learn from the chaos of Delhi and how the chaos of life and bring more order to it. It's been a really inspiring conversation with you, and thank you for joining me again.
SPEAKER_01Thank you, thank your communities. No short.
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